You should have put the glazed side of the tile against the rotor. It would have done much less rotor damage than the rough side while actually providing more surface contact with the rotor.
@@paulcollinson5244 It actually was the real porcelain used , the glase on the other side is like a thick hard surface to paint on . This is also the side that you see crack on very old porcelain stuff . Tiles of porcelain have only this glase on the front side and the porcelain is exposed on the back side , while things like cups and such is fully coated . BUT I AGREE with you all about , they should have tried both sides .
@@paulforester6996 although throw away cars and on a beer budget it is still fun to watch then experiment with these things so we dont have too and also we as followers can learn what we can and cant do and what will and wont work if we wanted to make a crazy contraption like they come up with. Few things they did on here I always personally wondered if it would work or how to make it work or if it was even possible to do on a super low budget and well these guys cured that question and funny enough I didnt even have to comment to try such things they did it anyways like reading my mind , although I am sure several other followers made the comment to try it out thusly also further sealing my thought on curing our curiosity
@@paulforester6996 Throw away...yeah 1-2K€ lada next door is throw away i guess. Some have been way more expensive, but then again they have and get lots of money so they dont care. I just hate to see great cars being destroyed for sometimes really retarded reasons. Should use new shitty cars and leave valuable old cars alone, or restore them. Just the fact its RWD makes it valuable, let alone how durable old ladas are. They dont make them as they use to and every single one destroyed makes them rarer and rarer.
This is actually more impressive than the video where you lifted the car with superglue. In this one the glue is dealing with just as much force and also getting really hot.
Look at that tyre at 05:54, that also might have ended badly out on the street! Biggest surprise for me is that either Epoxy or Super Glue held up in this test
I use ceramic brake pads on my car and they last like 50% longer than the metallic ones I was using prior, and are barely any more money. A very small increase in rotor wear as well, definitely worth the money.
I once literally wore a set of rotors down to 1/16th of an inch, driving for about 3 months on worn out pads - financial crisis, flat broke living paycheck to paycheck for a while. While I don't recommend doing this, I knew for a fact it would work out as my 92 Chevy Lumina had thick rotors and approximately 2-3 inch long pistons in the calipers. As I planned on replacing everything at the end I made it thru. Funny thing was a local shop tried to use scare tactics on me, " you can't do this you'll wreck when you can't stop !!! " Thanks Kauffman Tire, just lost my business, I have a brain and understand the forces involved better than your salesman, it just takes stopping sooner and more gradually. All in all the 3100, 3500, 3800 powered Luminas and Buick Regals were some of the best running cars, excellent powertrains and braking and when pushed to racing speeds to firm up the suspension good handling as well.
We can’t bust heads like we used to-but we have our ways. One trick is to tell them stories that don’t go anywhere like the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe, so I decided to go to Morganville which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So, I tied an onion to my belt which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel. And in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on ‘em. ‘Give me five bees for a quarter,’ you’d say. Now, where were we? Oh, yeah! The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt which was the style at the time. They didn’t have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones
was expecting them to work a little better. guess you need to use ceramic powder fused with a high temp epoxy and form it into pads to get the equivalent of store bought ceramic pads.
'That could have ended badly out on the street.' Interesting words said from someone going out to test homemade ceramic brake pads in a banger Samara 😂😂😂.
Now take a large grinder disk like for a chop saw or something and replace the rotors with that and the pads with chunks of steel to have reverse brakes
MrVeryCranky has a good idea. You should have also got them waterjet cut like the ceramic clutch. Better fit and again they have heat resistant adhesive. Glue for high heat.
Could y'all try using oil as coolant? The thinking being if you had a blown head gasket with coolant getting into the oil, if you replaced the coolant with oil, would it last?
What kind of glue did you use? Although this is a genuinely good idea, would need some kind of glue for brake shoes, some are just impossible to find and need rebuilding.
Hard wearing but i have my doubts about stopping power!! Rough up the surface of the pad with a sander. You CAN NOT have HARD pads they would WEAR the disc rotor in NO time, it is the Same with pistons and rings, the bore can be Hard BUT NOT BOTH Bore and pistons one must be hard the other a little softer.
The pads fail because they are cheaper to replace factoring in parts and service costs. To replace the rotors you have to remove the pads, adding more time, and money. That is why rotor is hard metal and pads are softer metal.
Next try Kevlar or carbon fibre brake pads, maybe some form of glass or epoxy resin. Perhaps even a few butane gas cigarette lighters, or just a couple of packs of Lithium batteries.
They should've made the pads flush and smooth, also different materials... Maybe even some types of rock, or grind the ceramic to a dust, make it into a paste and bake that into a pad?
4:43 No CV- boots on this Lada?, they must eat through U-Joints being open like that... Nice experiment, I cant imagine brake parts for that Lada costing more than a few bucks but if you are ever in a pinch...
How about cutting out a set of brake pads from one of those indestructible Lada windshields? That could be interesting. They should at least sound nice.
You should have put the glazed side of the tile against the rotor. It would have done much less rotor damage than the rough side while actually providing more surface contact with the rotor.
Yeah, or at least a pair, to see the differences.
Yep,that wasn't the porcelain side doing the braking.
You don't know what you're talking about
The poor rotors
@@paulcollinson5244 It actually was the real porcelain used , the glase on the other side
is like a thick hard surface to paint on .
This is also the side that you see crack on very old porcelain stuff .
Tiles of porcelain have only this glase on the front side and the porcelain is exposed
on the back side , while things like cups and such is fully coated .
BUT I AGREE with you all about , they should have tried both sides .
I love watching you guys do all these things to cars . You do it so we dont have too and cures our curiosity. Like mythbusters for car people
With a beer budget. Lol
Those are throw away cars he uses. I bet he gets good money selling his merchandise though. I thought about buying some.
@@paulforester6996 although throw away cars and on a beer budget it is still fun to watch then experiment with these things so we dont have too and also we as followers can learn what we can and cant do and what will and wont work if we wanted to make a crazy contraption like they come up with. Few things they did on here I always personally wondered if it would work or how to make it work or if it was even possible to do on a super low budget and well these guys cured that question and funny enough I didnt even have to comment to try such things they did it anyways like reading my mind , although I am sure several other followers made the comment to try it out thusly also further sealing my thought on curing our curiosity
@@paulforester6996 Throw away...yeah 1-2K€ lada next door is throw away i guess. Some have been way more expensive, but then again they have and get lots of money so they dont care. I just hate to see great cars being destroyed for sometimes really retarded reasons. Should use new shitty cars and leave valuable old cars alone, or restore them. Just the fact its RWD makes it valuable, let alone how durable old ladas are. They dont make them as they use to and every single one destroyed makes them rarer and rarer.
@@Hellsong89 I can't help it if those cars resemble a Chevy Chevette, or other cheaper cars here in the USA.
9:40 that would make a sick looking loading symbol for a racing game
Opare gx has one similar
10:05 you can see how when it gets so hot to the point where you can see the groove lines getting pushed to the outer edges so cool!
10/10 for entertainment value, the glowing disk looked epic and worth 👍 alone.
Love the music choice on the pad glueing montage!
Me too! I found myself doing the "oontss oontss" movements with my head! 🤣🤣
Guys you never disappoint me! Another great test I love it
This is actually more impressive than the video where you lifted the car with superglue.
In this one the glue is dealing with just as much force and also getting really hot.
Look at that tyre at 05:54, that also might have ended badly out on the street! Biggest surprise for me is that either Epoxy or Super Glue held up in this test
I dig that glow in the dark rotor show man!! 😁👍 Encore more please!! 👏
See Lauri and Anni on beyond the press channel. They run some till they self destruct.
"You just HAD to break the pads, Sergei..." lmao
I like how he stopped it but only to turn off the lights 🤣
Xd
They aren't idea for sure, but they would've worked long enough to get the job done in a pinch, great video guys, thanks for sharing.
Around 2:21 it almost sounds like vlad is saying super cute to the brake pads 😂
9:20 the Russians have discovered portal technology.
Probably should have added a small chamfer on each edge of the pads that contact the rotor... should help with getting rid of the grinding.
Yes this is what I love, simple concept video
When I first heard about ceramic pads a while back, this was what came to mind.
!!!GRINDER DISCS!!! OMG the possibilities are endlesss!!!!!! :)
I use ceramic brake pads on my car and they last like 50% longer than the metallic ones I was using prior, and are barely any more money. A very small increase in rotor wear as well, definitely worth the money.
I don't know what Datsun was making them out of back in the 70's, but this truck is still running it's 43 year old original brake shoes.
That's a mint datsun
probbely asbestos
50% asbestos
Both Datsun and Toyota’s drum brake shoes would easily last 200K miles or more .
If ur in California ur gonna get cancer just from saying that
10:25 - "They've crumbled to pieces. They're *rooted* !!" 🤣🤣
I thought that was only an Australian expression!
I feel like it would be good if you also tried the smooth side so we can see how each one reacts, I'd imagine they'd react a lot differently
Thank you so much for giving me a much needed laugh at the end of my day. I always enjoy your channel.
I once literally wore a set of rotors down to 1/16th of an inch, driving for about 3 months on worn out pads - financial crisis, flat broke living paycheck to paycheck for a while. While I don't recommend doing this, I knew for a fact it would work out as my 92 Chevy Lumina had thick rotors and approximately 2-3 inch long pistons in the calipers. As I planned on replacing everything at the end I made it thru. Funny thing was a local shop tried to use scare tactics on me, " you can't do this you'll wreck when you can't stop !!! " Thanks Kauffman Tire, just lost my business, I have a brain and understand the forces involved better than your salesman, it just takes stopping sooner and more gradually.
All in all the 3100, 3500, 3800 powered Luminas and Buick Regals were some of the best running cars, excellent powertrains and braking and when pushed to racing speeds to firm up the suspension good handling as well.
We can’t bust heads like we used to-but we have our ways. One trick is to tell them stories that don’t go anywhere like the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe, so I decided to go to Morganville which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So, I tied an onion to my belt which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel. And in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on ‘em. ‘Give me five bees for a quarter,’ you’d say. Now, where were we? Oh, yeah! The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt which was the style at the time. They didn’t have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones
Great to see G54 posting videos still :D I love your videos don't care much for current year politics.
PCCB: Porsche Ceramic Composite Brake
LPTB: Lada Porcelain Tile Brake :)
Others are recommending using the smooth side on the rotors.
It might not damage the rotors as quickly.
Also wouldnt be the smooth side for very long
Another Nice experiment!
"When I said I specced ceramic brakes, that's not what I meant!!!" :P
Can you build and try conical wheels? So they have camber but also good traction? Wider at the outsides and smaller at the inside.
was expecting them to work a little better. guess you need to use ceramic powder fused with a high temp epoxy and form it into pads to get the equivalent of store bought ceramic pads.
'That could have ended badly out on the street.'
Interesting words said from someone going out to test homemade ceramic brake pads in a banger Samara 😂😂😂.
Does this work as well amour coating for the new t60 tanks
In the same vein as your tire shooting machine, you should make a brake testing machine for experiments like this.
*vein
@@justtime6736 Fixed. Thank you.
Now take a large grinder disk like for a chop saw or something and replace the rotors with that and the pads with chunks of steel to have reverse brakes
Next time mix some binder (high temperature glue, epoxy) with some sand and mold them into brake pads and see how that holds up.
Some trains had wood brake pads. I believe some in Canada still do.
I love all the wacky stuff you guys do!
MrVeryCranky has a good idea. You should have also got them waterjet cut like the ceramic clutch. Better fit and again they have heat resistant adhesive. Glue for high heat.
I love how this is easy to understand even for me viewing from Pennsylvania I can listen to these cool Russian guys
Why not use some breathing protection? That ceramic dust is really bad for your lungs when you're grinding/cutting it...
shake hands with danger
worry not, he is russian
It's okay, they are trained Russians.
be a man
it's ok, just safety bite your lips, it's like the safety squint
Ask the tile manufacturer to add some aramid fibre into a tile mix. That would hold the material together .
I suspect they'll work in the briefest sense of the word, get very hot and shatter. Rather curious on the actual outcome though!
I bet they'd have worked great on their test track.
Попробуйте управлять автомобилем с помощью пропеллера самолета, например, воздушной лодки.
There was snow everywhere in your last video a few days ago and now it's the middle of summer
Could y'all try using oil as coolant? The thinking being if you had a blown head gasket with coolant getting into the oil, if you replaced the coolant with oil, would it last?
Nokia 3310, would break those brake rotors!
What kind of glue did you use? Although this is a genuinely good idea, would need some kind of glue for brake shoes, some are just impossible to find and need rebuilding.
That is so interesting the experiment on brake pads. Will there be an english translated video for the rubber piston rings?
You should try pieces of leather for main bearings on the crankshaft.
I LOVE ALL OF YOUR VIDEOS THEY ARE ALWAYS FUN
Carbon fiber + ceramic
After watching this I'm suddenly really looking forward to the 24h Le Mans
Replace suspension with solid pipes, use fat tyres and take a trip around town (track if you can)
Great video. Isn't porcelain just a type of ceramic?
Would be nice to see JB Weld in action.
How about pads made from resin or wood?
Solid rotors on front? Super brake fade!
You got to try making Cuban brake fluid and see how it good it is.
Brown sugar
V05 shampoo
Alcohol.
Maybe missing an ingredient or 2.
Can you make a clutch plate out of porcelain tile?
Brass pads will do the job!
Hard wearing but i have my doubts about stopping power!! Rough up the surface of the pad with a sander. You CAN NOT have HARD pads they would WEAR the disc rotor in NO time, it is the Same with pistons and rings, the bore can be Hard BUT NOT BOTH Bore and pistons one must be hard the other a little softer.
Non vented discs on the front woweeee 👌
i wonder what granite and/ or marble pads look like after they have been through that?
Make porcelain dust, mixed with crazy glue, and mould new brake pad material using that...
Like porcelain brakepad compound
Youve invented a new way to resurface the rotors.
Keep up the good work fellas and stay safe.🇺🇲
You should try making your own concrete rebar brake pads.
Maybe if you mix high heat epoxy with porcelain gravel or powder would make a good brake pad
Solid!
Top KEK!
"Scratches at a level 6 with deeper grooves at a level 7."
Title of video: How to Warp Brake Rotors 101
now mix that porcelain dust with some metal dust/shavings from grinding or something and mix it wist some kind of heat resistant glue.
Ceramic clutch pads next?
Im surprised it lasted that long. I though they would shatter into dust immediately
haha that was great, how about trying glass brake pads next time?
The pads fail because they are cheaper to replace factoring in parts and service costs. To replace the rotors you have to remove the pads, adding more time, and money. That is why rotor is hard metal and pads are softer metal.
I would like to see you guys run an engine counterclockwise like spinning the other way
Look at the light show!
Stopping the disks when they're red hot? They are gonna be warped!
glass brake pads?
how about bronze or aluminum bronze break pads?
You guys not on the front line yet?
Next try Kevlar or carbon fibre brake pads, maybe some form of glass or epoxy resin. Perhaps even a few butane gas cigarette lighters, or just a couple of packs of Lithium batteries.
Can you make a lada run on propane[gas fuel] or other fuel like alcohol?
I'm more amazed that glue hold up with those temps.
LMAO All the rust and sand and dirt of the car was falling off lmao
They should've made the pads flush and smooth, also different materials... Maybe even some types of rock, or grind the ceramic to a dust, make it into a paste and bake that into a pad?
I'm guessing they'll brake
Brake pad manufacturers hate this one weird trick!
Rotor manufacturers, on the other hand... 😅
Wonder if you'd get sparks if you made them from grinding discs?
There was another video where they made pads that would spark.
Wheel bearings looking kinda loose. Thought the tire was gonna hit the back of fender-well a few times when you braked hard
Use knife sharpening ston as a brake pads
4:43 No CV- boots on this Lada?, they must eat through U-Joints being open like that...
Nice experiment, I cant imagine brake parts for that Lada costing more than a few bucks but if you are ever in a pinch...
How about cutting out a set of brake pads from one of those indestructible Lada windshields?
That could be interesting.
They should at least sound nice.
What if you use tire rubber for brakes?
I want to see a 4x4 diesel/electric Lada.
One with a mid-mounted three-phase generator and a star/delta motor for each wheel.
"You hooligan." lol
Next use a non crumbly type of rock like Granite.