@@dimitar4y they do that already not a full360, but they do have room to move in all directions, the greatest is in the as you would suspect in the spinning parts, but the will move a small amount in auto adjusting fashion,
I spend all day replacing the entire rear braking system on a 1961 UK Morris Minor, and then, for fun, I watch this :-) Great work guys, I think my brakes do work a little better than yours, and mine are drums... Keep up the great work!
You spent all day replacing drum brakes ? I would spend max 1 hour-30 min and that’s if I have to get additional parts. I have done both including replacing brake lines under 2 hours.
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Use wood as for metro brakes. Yellow birch blocks are cut to length, then the shoes are cut to their final shape and a serial number indicating the cutting date is printed on them. They undergo a double impregnation process: first they are immersed in pressure tanks of peanut oil - it is more tolerant of the high temperatures observed during braking - then they sit in the open air to allow the oil to impregnate them evenly. After a month, they are impregnated with fireproof salt to make the shoe more difficult to burn.
loving the brake cam from the inside of the wheel arch did anybody else notice the custom bottom arm setup welded to the original balljoint... love it ! haha
Lignum Vitae is one of, if the, hardest wood known to exist, but it is rather pricey. It needs metalworking tools to work it, but it would be very interesting to see how well it would have performed. The biggest importance with brake parts is to use dissimilar materials to generate the friction, eg in the early days, steel or iron drums/discs versus asbestos shoes/pads. Nice little experiment!
Lignin vitae was used mostly for bearings in the real old days on hard maple shafts with animal fat lube. I work on some old equipment and will occasionally still come across wooden brakes and clutches that are still in service from before brakes switched to asbestos in the 1920s and 30s. There were various woods used. I have a book on it but by memory on iron wheels willow had the highest coefficient of friction. White oak was also common and poplar had the highest coefficient of friction that is little affected by oil on the brake wheel.
@@dickard8275 these days they use composition shoes. Even printed in the side of the car near the trucks. Comp shoes. Whatever it’s made of, it’s some tough stuff. The wheelsets are all steel now, too. I used to hauled them, and got a good look at how they were made.
Over here in montreal, our metro trains from the 60s and 70s use wooden brake shoes.Not sure about our new Azur trains that are replacing them. Wooden brakes work.
Ha!ha!😁 Garage 54 is SO ATE UP with curiosity about the "what ifs..." friction between wood will usually start a fire. In THIS case y'all are creating charcoal. Love everything you guys come up with.
You're not feeling a lot of heat in them because they are burning and instantly shedding the material. The hot stuff is on the floor. I'm more impressed that the glued together rotor peices didn't fly apart.
What’s happening is called ablation. Wood was actually used on early re-entry spacecraft because of its insulation properties and the carbon production delays the ablation process. It was obviously a one time use heat shield but it got things done without incident. The wooden re-entry shields were replaced with an engineered material fairly quickly.
Dear Garage 54, Please start selling wood brake kits. You can even for a little extra money sell a matching casket to complete the set! Great job as usual.
That was fun to watch, even though I was expecting fire. Want to try leather brake pads next? That's what Bertha Benz did on her historic automobile road trip. I imagine that would be some foul-smelling smoke.
The way the pads break, maybe try making them with the grain so the grains are wearing down and going in the direction of spinning instead of grain towards the rotors and basically rubbing
You should do one where you use clutch disks or clutch material as the rotor, and use solid steel pads, possibly cut the pads from a flywheel? It’d be like the opposite of a conventional braking system..
Honestly I am surprised they didn't burst in flames. The only thing I could contribute that to is the extreme speed the wood is moving puts the fire out before it can flame 🔥
Don't matter if people like it or not. There is people like me that like watching all kinds of stuff like this to see if it works. But you could make those brake rotors if you have a solid block of wood.
I did this years ago . Brake pad fell out of a talbot express van managed to limp to a friends and cut some brake pads out some old skirting board glued to the back plates . Got me home once bedded in youd hardly know the difference
Oddly enough this was done over 100 years ago in a more primitive form. on the first horseless carriage. but the story goes that the wife of the man building it took it out for a drive and the breaks were bad so she had added a strip of leather. I think that was a Benz the vary first alto and brake pads.
Should try to fit both compression rings into one groove and leave the oil ring as it is, me and my dad think it will raise compression because the ring gap from the upper ring will be completely sealed off by the ring touching it underneath
Awesome Video Garage 54. I enjoyed watching it. It does amaze me that the wood brakes kinda sorta worked, even if only for 15 to 20 seconds. Also. Off topic here. I don't read Russian so please please correct me if I'm wrong but I'm guessing that the writing on the hood in the dust at timestamp 9:28 says "Wash Me"
Hearing a Russian say shite is epic lol Also, that passenger side wheel bearing is FUCKED. The right wood selection would smell heavenly when someone cuts you off in traffic, lmao.
I had a pretty good idea that it would work, just not how good. The brakes on a model T Ford used wooden brake linings but metal drums. Didn't work well, but they worked.
this combined with other ideas could be used to create a car that on purpose generates ten times more smoke during normal operations when compared to a regular car. So those low emission nuts can get a real kick out of watching you drive along creating your own cloud behind you
Sweet! What happens with wood pads on steel rotors? They used to use wood shoes back in the days on rail cars and mine cars and such. I think early automobiles had wooden brake shoes too because it was so common already, even horse drawn wagons had them
@patrick nagle A lot of that would depend on the melting point of each material. If it's higher than the heat generated by the friction then they would work, as long as they don't get a impact from a foreign object, i.e. a rock from the road.
I'd like to see this exact test again with slots or holes in the rotors to vent the gasses. Will still wear out really fast but they might perform better 🤷
You're basically machining wood. It doesnt get for the same reason your work piece doesnt get hot while its on the lathe (The chips get hot and then flung off). The stuff thats getting hot here is the stuff thats sitting on the floor smoldering.
@1:10 I predict the rotors will be the first to break, because trees do not grow in a way suited to the creation of disks which can take heavy rotational forces.
Whatever epoxy they used to glue the wood to those rotors is some serious stuff.
Not really. There isn’t much space to come off.
It's Russian epoxy, not no crap that we get here in the states haha
Looked like normal cyanoacrylate
Thougt exactly desame, impressive. 🤘
Youd think the heat would cause it to fail
It would be cool if you guys could fit a piston on a rod like a ball joint, giving the piston the ability to spin. Keep it up!!!! Love the content!!
I..... Wow what would that do? It's probably going to wear in the oval anyway and then get stuck in that position?
@sourand jaded just about to mention the cox engine. Steel piston without rings.
@@dimitar4y they do that already not a full360, but they do have room to move in all directions, the greatest is in the as you would suspect in the spinning parts, but the will move a small amount in auto adjusting fashion,
@sourand jaded ah the .049 good memories
Try making your own brake discs from metal epoxy. I wanna see if that would work :D
Excellent suggestion, maybe one side a quality high temp epoxy, the other side a bargain type?
Man that’s a great suggestion!👌😎👍
I spend all day replacing the entire rear braking system on a 1961 UK Morris Minor, and then, for fun, I watch this :-) Great work guys, I think my brakes do work a little better than yours, and mine are drums... Keep up the great work!
You spent all day replacing drum brakes ? I would spend max 1 hour-30 min and that’s if I have to get additional parts. I have done both including replacing brake lines under 2 hours.
The springs are the worst tho, I gotta give you that. If you don’t have the right tool it will take you hours.
Only one brake cylinder on one side job? :-) i remember an old pick up minor truck i had lol
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You guys really do the things I always try to imagine in my day dreams
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Use wood as for metro brakes.
Yellow birch blocks are cut to length, then the shoes are cut to their final shape and a serial number indicating the cutting date is printed on them. They undergo a double impregnation process: first they are immersed in pressure tanks of peanut oil - it is more tolerant of the high temperatures observed during braking - then they sit in the open air to allow the oil to impregnate them evenly. After a month, they are impregnated with fireproof salt to make the shoe more difficult to burn.
Fully DIY brakes, who doesn't love that? That's amazing.
Gives a new meaning to a burnout! Keep up the great work.
yeah seriously🤣🤣🤣
Try making a set of brakes like the old horse drawn wagons where the brakes stop the wheel by contacting the surface of the tire.
This idea would be especially fitting for a Lada!
LOL YESSS DUDE
Or like a A stage coach where the brake literally big literally is a shoe that hits the ground to drag along like an anchor
@@PACKERMAN2077 Why not just a hole in the floor where you literally try stopping the car with your feet?
@@Velktron AYE! AYE!
loving the brake cam from the inside of the wheel arch did anybody else notice the custom bottom arm setup welded to the original balljoint... love it ! haha
Lignum Vitae is one of, if the, hardest wood known to exist, but it is rather pricey. It needs metalworking tools to work it, but it would be very interesting to see how well it would have performed.
The biggest importance with brake parts is to use dissimilar materials to generate the friction, eg in the early days, steel or iron drums/discs versus asbestos shoes/pads.
Nice little experiment!
Lignin vitae was used mostly for bearings in the real old days on hard maple shafts with animal fat lube. I work on some old equipment and will occasionally still come across wooden brakes and clutches that are still in service from before brakes switched to asbestos in the 1920s and 30s. There were various woods used. I have a book on it but by memory on iron wheels willow had the highest coefficient of friction. White oak was also common and poplar had the highest coefficient of friction that is little affected by oil on the brake wheel.
That's not entirely true, the aircraft I work on (B747, B767, A330/340) all use Carbon/Carbon brakes where the pads and disc material is the same.
Lignin vitae is self-lubricating. It would last longer but it would likely brake worse than beech.
And trains use iron brake shoes on iron wheels
@@dickard8275 these days they use composition shoes.
Even printed in the side of the car near the trucks. Comp shoes.
Whatever it’s made of, it’s some tough stuff.
The wheelsets are all steel now, too.
I used to hauled them, and got a good look at how they were made.
Over here in montreal, our metro trains from the 60s and 70s use wooden brake shoes.Not sure about our new Azur trains that are replacing them. Wooden brakes work.
Try replace front brakes with drums and rear with disc.
Hahaha. That’s creative!
I like that idea.
🤣Or just put the car in reverse
Rear engine, front wheel drive?
Teak or Ironwood made into pads would be really interesting to see how long they'd hold up.
These guys are my heros! Can't wait to buy some merch, when I get paid.. 🤣
Ha!ha!😁 Garage 54 is SO ATE UP with curiosity about the "what ifs..." friction between wood will usually start a fire. In THIS case y'all are creating charcoal. Love everything you guys come up with.
0:00 is probably the most rapid "heytherefellas" on this channel and for some reason it made me laugh lol
These are gonna be fire!
what amazes me the most is that the rotor is mad of 2 pieces of wood joined together held with just wood glue and it took all that torture
You're not feeling a lot of heat in them because they are burning and instantly shedding the material. The hot stuff is on the floor. I'm more impressed that the glued together rotor peices didn't fly apart.
That's why the Flintstones braked with their feet...
What’s happening is called ablation. Wood was actually used on early re-entry spacecraft because of its insulation properties and the carbon production delays the ablation process. It was obviously a one time use heat shield but it got things done without incident.
The wooden re-entry shields were replaced with an engineered material fairly quickly.
If I had to rate this episode I would give it a ....tree out of tree! Keep up the great work Boys! Greetings from Montreal!
15:16 & 18:03 Best moments with Sergey xD
Upgrading the 964 this weekend with a full wood brake kit, 👌.
This is the first video that I could smell!
His face when he first starts moving the car 😅😆😆😆😆 I'm dead
Love this channel! Sending love from USA!
I would like to see this again only with exotic hard woods
I'm very happy you got the money situation worked out, especially PayPal. You guys bring top notch entertainment.
Good to hear the shop is back up
I certain wouldn’t mind seeing wooden rotors on metal/normal ceramic pads! Amazing work and keep up the great work.
im pretty sure they already uploaded a video doing that
Need to see if you can find anti lock Birch for the pads. Lol
They're turning into carbon breaks
Now they just have to ceramic coat them
So they'll be Carbon ceramic brakes💀💀
I love it how you guys just stand infront of that thing,while smoking the brakes.
RIGHT!!!!! xD
Another question solved by fantastici garage 54 .
I ❤ you guys !😗😆
These guys are some of the funniest "What if Guys" to watch!
The ones in Montreal used peanut oil soaked wood brakes.
For the full wood experience, you should use tree sap as brake fluid!
Wouldnt do anything. Basically the same thing as putting glue in the lines. There wouldnt be any flow. Youd apply the brakes and thats it.
Turpentine
Given the disc seemed to hold up okay it would have been interesting to try a regular pad instead of the wooden one.
this would actually be pretty useful for movie prop cars, on the rear wheels to extenuate a burnout.
Pour alcohol on the rubber for super smokey burnouts, 👌.
Dear Garage 54,
Please start selling wood brake kits. You can even for a little extra money sell a matching casket to complete the set! Great job as usual.
That was fun to watch, even though I was expecting fire. Want to try leather brake pads next? That's what Bertha Benz did on her historic automobile road trip. I imagine that would be some foul-smelling smoke.
Here's a suggestion, see what happens if you fit clutch disc lining to brake rotors and use solid steel brake pads.
Interesting idea!
Before watching a second of this, I call a fairly quick brake fire.
which is "happy Russian accident.We are having boycotts here.Peoples want arm AND leg for fire wood"
Wow still filming the conclusion segment with the smoke in the garage was hilarious😂
The way the pads break, maybe try making them with the grain so the grains are wearing down and going in the direction of spinning instead of grain towards the rotors and basically rubbing
All I've seen is the thumbnail. This looks GOOD!
You should do one where you use clutch disks or clutch material as the rotor, and use solid steel pads, possibly cut the pads from a flywheel? It’d be like the opposite of a conventional braking system..
Honestly I am surprised they didn't burst in flames. The only thing I could contribute that to is the extreme speed the wood is moving puts the fire out before it can flame 🔥
I would imagine the wood glazed over after 1st braking, hence the reason it doesn't have any friction braking.
Vlad, are you a school teacher?
Your channel reminds me of a mechanic shop class.
Keep up the crazy and great work!
A real Willwood brake kit? Nice!
Don't matter if people like it or not. There is people like me that like watching all kinds of stuff like this to see if it works. But you could make those brake rotors if you have a solid block of wood.
I did this years ago . Brake pad fell out of a talbot express van managed to limp to a friends and cut some brake pads out some old skirting board glued to the back plates . Got me home once bedded in youd hardly know the difference
I don't know about the wooden brakes, but that glue ain't no joke!
08:32 love the translation to “shite”!
Those brakes must smell amazing!
Oddly enough this was done over 100 years ago in a more primitive form. on the first horseless carriage. but the story goes that the wife of the man building it took it out for a drive and the breaks were bad so she had added a strip of leather. I think that was a Benz the vary first alto and brake pads.
My dad had a clutch for a motorbike and the liners were made of corks!
I love the stuff you guys come up with.
This gives all new meaning to the phrase "burn out"
I didn't know what to expect when I clicked, but we'll done!! Entertaining and informative. I'll definitely sub for more.
I love the car weight clamp idea
Need to go full Flintstones on the Lada one day.
Should try to fit both compression rings into one groove and leave the oil ring as it is, me and my dad think it will raise compression because the ring gap from the upper ring will be completely sealed off by the ring touching it underneath
notification squad, Have a nice weekend!🔥🔥🔥
I just checked my subscriptions and it said he just posted
Awesome Video Garage 54. I enjoyed watching it. It does amaze me that the wood brakes kinda sorta worked, even if only for 15 to 20 seconds. Also. Off topic here. I don't read Russian so please please correct me if I'm wrong but I'm guessing that the writing on the hood in the dust at timestamp 9:28 says "Wash Me"
google translate say: don't ride (не катать)
@@Zommari Oh Ok. Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it.
The all new Garage 54 Pine fresh wood smoking aromatherepy machine! ;)
The car with the wooden brakes :wooden stop😁
The answer given ".....the surface area"..
Had a "...because the metric system " pulp fiction vibe to it 👍
Given the current issues with getting spares, maybe you can make these for Aeroflot planes.... ;)
Hearing a Russian say shite is epic lol
Also, that passenger side wheel bearing is FUCKED. The right wood selection would smell heavenly when someone cuts you off in traffic, lmao.
Since it's already a hoopty car just smack them into the next millennium, they won't cut you off again!😁
Just kidding, don't do it! 😁
@@deadaccount6135 Damn. Ive been thinking of getting a hoopty just for this reason lmao
Its all about friction and heat dissipation. Solid wood does not
burn it cokes on the surface. The major problem will be the
friction disc to pad.
I had a pretty good idea that it would work, just not how good. The brakes on a model T Ford used wooden brake linings but metal drums. Didn't work well, but they worked.
It's the season to make and test a amphibious vehicle!
this combined with other ideas could be used to create a car that on purpose generates ten times more smoke during normal operations when compared to a regular car. So those low emission nuts can get a real kick out of watching you drive along creating your own cloud behind you
Guy keep on keeping on looking forward to see more video
I believe the metal that the wooden rotor is attached to is acting as somewhat of a heat sink so therefore it's not burning as fast
Well that makes a hell of a nice smoke effect, but I was hoping for barbecue 😁
Garage 54: answering the questions we never knew we needed to ask
Sweet! What happens with wood pads on steel rotors? They used to use wood shoes back in the days on rail cars and mine cars and such. I think early automobiles had wooden brake shoes too because it was so common already, even horse drawn wagons had them
I have a cool suggestion. So you guys made and inline 6 from two Lada engines. How about making a boxer 4 engine?
Or a V8 :)
Or boxer 8
Wichever it Will be. I'm with you
@@RodrigoLopez-fd4kq chad
It would be cool to try acrylic brakes and pads or bullet proof glass pads and rotors
@patrick nagle A lot of that would depend on the melting point of each material. If it's higher than the heat generated by the friction then they would work, as long as they don't get a impact from a foreign object, i.e. a rock from the road.
How about some brake pads made out of glass, or silicon chips :)
Or maybe some harder wood like guayacan wood would be best :)
Because there is more rotor surface area than pad material.
I'd like to see this exact test again with slots or holes in the rotors to vent the gasses. Will still wear out really fast but they might perform better 🤷
The fire department must LOVE these guys!!!
The channel that keeps on giving
How about steel brake pads on steel rotors? See if you can weld them together from the friction alone.
I imagine it would be similar to friction stir welding
There were no problems with mosquitos around the shop that day.
Please drive carefully after new brakes and pads as bedding in procedure.......
Garage 54 ...."yes"
Funniest part was seeing the socks he is wearing (towards the end around 19:00)
I've heard Vlad is all about the 'wood on wood' action
You're basically machining wood. It doesnt get for the same reason your work piece doesnt get hot while its on the lathe (The chips get hot and then flung off). The stuff thats getting hot here is the stuff thats sitting on the floor smoldering.
@1:10 I predict the rotors will be the first to break, because trees do not grow in a way suited to the creation of disks which can take heavy rotational forces.
My great grandpa used iron wood for brake pads for his model t. They were poor old farmers and couldn’t always get lead too poor new ones.
Perhaps you should glue the brake pads to a metal base like the disks. And use iron wood or teak for disks and pads, it's very hard.
Well, I never knew the Russian even use the word "shite" which is pretty much an UK expression. 🤣