My current dream build would have the Ecoflow kit with a 48v Cruise n' Comfort air conditioner. I'd prefer to stash it away somewhere and keep the roof clear for more solar panels.
Gotta love the plug and play capabilities here. I really just despise rooftop ACs though. Even though 7 inches is short for one, it’s still 7” on the top of a van that’s already 9’1” in my case. And of course now your roof rack space is reduced. I think I prefer the idea of an under mounted 24v Red Dot system that also works as a heat pump for heating, and pushes out more BTUs. This is definitely making me reconsider though, purely by the ease of setup.
Thanks- good point. We are providing a cable to connect the EcoFlow Power Hub to the Nomadic AC unit. It's a terminal connector that goes into one of the the three battery terminals on the Power Hub. The other end is an Anderson connector to plug directly into the AC unit's positive and negative wires.
Ecoflow needs to make the batteries daisy chain like there Delta Pro Ultra that way you can connect more batteries and not worry about loosing one for the AC. Also like the way the new winnebago power max electric lithionics system works with the Ecoflow. Hopefully they will make that available to everyone or someone makes a kit to allow for this with the fast alternator charging too.
You mentioned that this special cable connects directly to one of the battery ports on the power hub. Does that mean that the system can now only handle 2 batteries max? In other words, 10kwh is the maximin capacity? Thank you for the video!!
Seems very simple to hook up but as a South Floridian I’m interested in how long an AC unit would be able to run on this battery powered system. I know there’s so many variables to consider that it’s impossible to give an accurate run time. Day vs Night, Temperature, humidity, van size, insulation and so forth but a low end run time and a high end run time would at least give us a guesstimate. Also I love the intel you provide for the DIY Van builders.
Let's say you install the X3 with a 10kWh battery pack and your batteries are fully charged. The X3 will pull, on average, 1000 watts of power since it cycles on and off (max power is ~1600 watts). A 10kWh system will provide 10 hours of run time in this scenario. 10,000 watts / 1,000 watts per hour = 10 hours If you switch to eco-mode you could possibly double that. Up to 20 hours. Besides just blasting the air conditioner, it's key to have good insulation (including window covers), park in the shade and have other ventilation options to exhaust hot air whenever possible.
Wouldnt it be best to adjust the power inlet on the Ecoflow display panel, rather than using different size amp outlet adapters? I thought this was the purpose for having this option available with the ecoflow power kit.
I would definitely recommend the 10kWh kit if you're adding an X3. Link: vanlandstore.com/products/nomadic-48v-air-conditioner-ecoflow-power-kit-bundle
@@VanLand I was always taught 1.25 x 70 amps = 87.5 >>>>90A fuse at a minimum, up to 2.5 is allowed if you have motors. So with the 100A recommended they are at 1.42X the 70A
@@VanLand Great, this is one bit of info missing from Ecoflows manual! Myseup now has a 12V bus bars to 12V Panel, and now i will add a 48v bus bar for any 48V loads like 48V AC, and 48V starlink
So with the EcoFlow LFP Battery Polarity Adapter you showed it is easy to grab 48V DC from the battery and use CAN so the EF can monitor it but you did not explain how does one charge the battery??? Can you explain please?
How's does that all work if your system is strictly 12 volt! Any loss in performance with the AC as 12 volt? I'm trying to understand for a 7×14 Rv trailer I'm putting together! Awesome information!✌️
I own one so I'll do my best. The battery is 48v and it has 3 48v output ports before the inverter. You are using one of those to send 48v to the ac unit. I have the exact setup he went over.
With 50% of your installs being Ecoflow at this point, are they proving to be reliable systems? What percentage of customers are having problems? Interested in trying out Ecoflow but I keep hearing there are a lot of bugs that still need worked out.
It depends on the application. CnC is better for full builds with cabinetry and someone who knows how to do the integration. The Nomadic is way easier and ultimately less expensive.
Thanks for the great info! Was going to ask if 2 ac units would make sense for some Van's and then you answered that question right in the video. I plan on all of those things...pets in van, working in van, living out west.
12 and 24 volt air conditioners are more widely available and often less expensive. Is there any reason I couldn't use a 48v to 12v or 24v converter to power a 12v or 24v AC? Also, does the power draw from the battery terminal appear on the app/console?
You could do that, but there would be power loss through the converter. The 12 and 24v versions of this air conditioner are marginally more expensive- not enough to justify a converter. Yes, the draw from the AC shows up on the console under the battery display.
The only remotely controlled circuits come directly from the distribution panel. Since this method uses a direct connection to the Power Hub, you aren't able to switch on/off remotely. Of course you can use the AC's remote.
My current dream build would have the Ecoflow kit with a 48v Cruise n' Comfort air conditioner. I'd prefer to stash it away somewhere and keep the roof clear for more solar panels.
Gotta love the plug and play capabilities here. I really just despise rooftop ACs though. Even though 7 inches is short for one, it’s still 7” on the top of a van that’s already 9’1” in my case. And of course now your roof rack space is reduced.
I think I prefer the idea of an under mounted 24v Red Dot system that also works as a heat pump for heating, and pushes out more BTUs. This is definitely making me reconsider though, purely by the ease of setup.
Always love the videos you guys put out however, I'm confused, that didn't actually show how you connected it to the AC.
Thanks- good point. We are providing a cable to connect the EcoFlow Power Hub to the Nomadic AC unit. It's a terminal connector that goes into one of the the three battery terminals on the Power Hub. The other end is an Anderson connector to plug directly into the AC unit's positive and negative wires.
Ecoflow needs to make the batteries daisy chain like there Delta Pro Ultra that way you can connect more batteries and not worry about loosing one for the AC. Also like the way the new winnebago power max electric lithionics system works with the Ecoflow. Hopefully they will make that available to everyone or someone makes a kit to allow for this with the fast alternator charging too.
You mentioned that this special cable connects directly to one of the battery ports on the power hub. Does that mean that the system can now only handle 2 batteries max? In other words, 10kwh is the maximin capacity? Thank you for the video!!
Seems very simple to hook up but as a South Floridian I’m interested in how long an AC unit would be able to run on this battery powered system. I know there’s so many variables to consider that it’s impossible to give an accurate run time. Day vs Night, Temperature, humidity, van size, insulation and so forth but a low end run time and a high end run time would at least give us a guesstimate. Also I love the intel you provide for the DIY Van builders.
Let's say you install the X3 with a 10kWh battery pack and your batteries are fully charged. The X3 will pull, on average, 1000 watts of power since it cycles on and off (max power is ~1600 watts). A 10kWh system will provide 10 hours of run time in this scenario. 10,000 watts / 1,000 watts per hour = 10 hours
If you switch to eco-mode you could possibly double that. Up to 20 hours.
Besides just blasting the air conditioner, it's key to have good insulation (including window covers), park in the shade and have other ventilation options to exhaust hot air whenever possible.
@@VanLandThank you! 👊
Thanks for making this. I learned a lot!
Glad it was helpful!
I'd suggest painting it white. Black plastic in high sun will be hot as nuclear reactor. Which genius chose black?
What’s good for semi truck ….need to last 8-10 hours
Wouldnt it be best to adjust the power inlet on the Ecoflow display panel, rather than using different size amp outlet adapters? I thought this was the purpose for having this option available with the ecoflow power kit.
You can only select 12 or 24v output from the Power Hub.
So you have to sacrifice one 2/5kWh battery or the smart genny port for this, that’s a bummer. Seems a mini split is still the way to go 😞
The bumpises use mini’s. Join them.
Great video sir, well done
We’re the special cable to connect it to the hub.
thx for this
Finally! This will make the install much easier. Which battery size do you recommend with the x3 AC unit?
I would definitely recommend the 10kWh kit if you're adding an X3.
Link: vanlandstore.com/products/nomadic-48v-air-conditioner-ecoflow-power-kit-bundle
What about the heat side
2nd comment, You mentioned a 150A CB to connect the powerkit to the van alternator, but the Ecoflow Hub manual says 100A. Which is it?
100 amps but the charge limit was raised to 70 amps so a 100 is more likely to trip now.
@@VanLand I was always taught 1.25 x 70 amps = 87.5 >>>>90A fuse at a minimum, up to 2.5 is allowed if you have motors. So with the 100A recommended they are at 1.42X the 70A
Awesome video! We just hooked up an X2 to a power kit and love the simplicity! Are you using a 150 amp breaker for the alternator?
So you dont need to install a fuse on the 48V battery side between the battery output and the 48V AC Unit?
Yes install a fuse or breaker.
@@VanLand Great, this is one bit of info missing from Ecoflows manual! Myseup now has a 12V bus bars to 12V Panel, and now i will add a 48v bus bar for any 48V loads like 48V AC, and 48V starlink
So with the EcoFlow LFP Battery Polarity Adapter you showed it is easy to grab 48V DC from the battery and use CAN so the EF can monitor it but you did not explain how does one charge the battery???
Can you explain please?
How do you connect the 48V A/C to the power hub? I'm not sure we got the right cable??
Is it possible to power Ecoflow battery directly from Nations 48v alternator?
Great video. If I'm planning to use all 3 battery ports (ie. 15 kWh), can I still use the Nomadic 48V unit?
Wouldn’t work in uk power hub only 10amps?
How's does that all work if your system is strictly 12 volt! Any loss in performance with the AC as 12 volt?
I'm trying to understand for a 7×14 Rv trailer I'm putting together!
Awesome information!✌️
I own one so I'll do my best. The battery is 48v and it has 3 48v output ports before the inverter. You are using one of those to send 48v to the ac unit. I have the exact setup he went over.
With 50% of your installs being Ecoflow at this point, are they proving to be reliable systems? What percentage of customers are having problems? Interested in trying out Ecoflow but I keep hearing there are a lot of bugs that still need worked out.
You prefer this over cruise n Comfort?
It depends on the application. CnC is better for full builds with cabinetry and someone who knows how to do the integration. The Nomadic is way easier and ultimately less expensive.
Thanks for the great info! Was going to ask if 2 ac units would make sense for some Van's and then you answered that question right in the video. I plan on all of those things...pets in van, working in van, living out west.
You bet!
12 and 24 volt air conditioners are more widely available and often less expensive. Is there any reason I couldn't use a 48v to 12v or 24v converter to power a 12v or 24v AC? Also, does the power draw from the battery terminal appear on the app/console?
You could do that, but there would be power loss through the converter. The 12 and 24v versions of this air conditioner are marginally more expensive- not enough to justify a converter. Yes, the draw from the AC shows up on the console under the battery display.
Can you remotely turn on and off the AC if it's hooked up to the power hub, or does it needs to be hooked up to the distribution panel?
The only remotely controlled circuits come directly from the distribution panel. Since this method uses a direct connection to the Power Hub, you aren't able to switch on/off remotely. Of course you can use the AC's remote.
Didn’t actually see the unit?
Would this work with other brands of 48v air conditioners?
Yes, as long as the power consumption is within spec.
Can I run a 48v air conditioner if I already have a 12v electric system?
Not without installing a converter. You typically want to match the AC voltage to your battery voltage.
Will the DP 2 run the x2 a/c ???
No
@@VanLandwill the DP 3 run the X2 a/c ???
If I want to run the S1 unit from nomadic (12 or 24V) can I?
Yes there are 12? Maybe 13 dc 12/24v connection spots on the distribution panel.
This is clearly the holy Grail, but you do need a 48 V second alternator for this to make sense.
Not really. Connecting to the factory alternator is working for everyone.
@@VanLand Curious, you mean DC to DC converters in series, x 4? Have you done a video on that? Very curious.