You can charge 130 amps (@12V) from your primary alternator, although it would produce that much more heat and noise inside as well - if you hookup more than one alternator cable. Which is why I have opted for a 48V alternator which bypasses the PowerHub altogether. Also FYI - the latest firmware update will allow you to mix 2kW and 5kW batteries on the system.
18:56 just remember to wire your panels correctly. The inputs take 60v and 30a. I have 200w bifacial panels that max out at 31v and 6a. So really I can do 4 in parallel on each input.
in the video you stated that 12v AC can be an issue due to the DC output being limited to 30A. However the website says that the DC output is up to 70 amps. Maybe I misread, can you confirm?
I was looking at a power system that I could remove the batteries from the van and store them in our house. I live in South Florida and was told I shouldn’t leave lithium batteries in our van when not in use because the temps reach 135 to 150 degrees which could cause damage to the batteries.
Can a 48v AC unit be hooked up to the distribution panel rather and not the hub? Thinking of how to remotely turn on/off the air conditioner using a hotspot.
I can’t wait to install my Vanland EcoFlow Power kit & NomadicCooling 48V AC in a few weeks. Do you know of a way to use EV chargers for the AC input when needed? I know it is an option with the Delta Pro. Thank you for such great pricing and service.
Hi there When you were talking about the batteries charging at cold temperatures. I have a power hub in our garage that sends power around the garage and the house, but I don’t have one of the consoles. You said the battery heating elements need to be controlled as not automatic had I scout about in the phone app but can’t find that feature. I thought the BMS activated the battery heating system, but now wonder about that and don’t want too damage the expensive batteries. Live in the UK so not super super cold but does get too around -5 c a few bit in winter time. Thanks Sam
Hi guys. Thanks for the clarifying video. I got an Ecoflow powerkit at the beginning of the year. One reason for my purchase decision was your videos. Thank you for that! So far we haven't had any failures or problems. I only noticed one thing and I would be interested to know if this is still normal behavior! I noticed that the power hub's own consumption is very high. I have a loss of around 5-8% sometimes more battery capacity (2kwh battery) overnight even though the AC & DC outputs are switched off. As you described, some users have a similar problem. Is this still normal consumption? or do I already have a problem here?
i use a power kit with 5kwh battery now for a year here in germany. i have the same situation that the system itself consumes a lot of power. The support recommended last year: "However, we suggest you to perform a SoC calibration to try to improve the issue, the steps are as follows: 1) Please long press the on/off main power button for over 10 seconds to reset it. And then turn it on. 2) Set the discharge/charge level to 0%-100% on the APP. 3) Plug out all output from the power station and charge it till it reaches 100% or 0 input and stops charging. 4) Plug out all input from the power station and discharge it till it reaches 0% and automatically shuts off. 5) Repeat steps 3 and 4 three times. After the SOC calibration, check to see if the issue continues" For me it brought a small help, but it is pretty much unchanged. Maybe it helps you?! @vanland: Your experiences?
Thanks for the video. Been following everything you have on Ecoflow and one question is will this kit works for the Eu vans diy builds? Thanks again for covering and keep us up to date
found this review after my power hub stopped working. i def think my builder overdid the alternator charging with 100amps and i think that damaged the powerhub. not having the ability to charge faster is a huge issue that i'm facing
Great video and for times savings I am leaning towards getting one of these kits. I do have a couple questions: 1. How long on average would 10kw allow you to run the AC? 2. Can it be used with any 48v AC? TIA!
48v ac is one of the perks for it. How long it runs will always depend on your ac units usage and more importantly insulation setup and how well you can lock in the cold air and keep out the hot. Ac units never run 100% of the time, if it is you are doing it wrong. Usually 20% up time per hour. I have a 48v system with the 5kw battery and I'm in Texas. I've had it setup for only a week but it will keep my van 74 all night when set in low mode using 800w and has battery left in the morning.
I've had mine for almost 2 years (I bought a 10 kWh kit the day it came out when they had large discounts and got it August 2022). I now have a 48 volt A/C hooked up to the 3rd battery port and that works great! 2 Questions: -You mentioned about not going below 5% charge; what is the best practice for BMS balancing? I've heard go down to 0% and then up to 100% at least 3 times to get the BMS programming correct and then to repeat that at least once a month. What do you suggest? -What about 2nd alternator charging? The app mentions that the 2 solar inputs can now also be alternator inputs but gives no details on how that might be. Do you have any details on that please?
They have a cable now that plugs right in and has connectors to attach right to your terminals. What can do you have? Many already have at least 250amp and you don't need a second alternator as he mentioned
@@edgeofnothing67 I have the cable that came with the PowerKit for the alternator hookup that allows 60 amps of alternator charging. A firmware update allowed upping that to the 70 amps, but I found my Ford Transit has a 60 amp breaker on the connection so I keep it at 60 amps now. Do you have details on the new cable?
I have a 10kw system. The only problem I have had so far is my batteries not charging all the way. I just did a firmware update today, so I hope that fixes it. Also, the fact you need an adapter for the smart generator is annoying, especially since I am waiting for it.
We have had one for a year now too and we love it! However, we regret the AC unit. It cannot deal with hotter temps, the outlet hose gets so hot that I think its also contributing to heating up the van. Also the cold air blows up, hot air gets sucked in below. Kimda think that the unit just keeps cycling its own air within a small area in front of intake and outlet. Also - at window dispensing area w intake and outlet side by side - think it may be cycling same air. Would rather put money towards a cruise n comfort or roof AC.
I'm curious about adding extra batteries at a later date. Say you get a 10k kit and 3-4 years later you find it's not quite enough... is it ok to add a 3rd battery or would there be a conflict adding a new batter to the existing setup?
It takes 10 seconds to connect a new one. It can take 10 seconds to install as well if you stack them. They lock right into each other that way. If you need to attach it somewhere else they give brackets to tie it down which would take you like 30 minutes maybe...
@@edgeofnothing67 the issue I'm wondering about isn't adding an extra, it's adding a fresh battery to a well used batteries. In the past with other systems I've seen recommendations against adding new batteries to banks with older batteries because of draw conflicts between the old and new batteries... sort of like the conflicts he mentioned about running a 5k battery and a 2k battery together on 1 hub.
Automations available for all other Ecoflow products missing in the Powerkit is such a bummer… Can you please bring this up with them? There’s no reason these lesser products should have this functionality but this kit not…
Where'd you hear about the new power kit announcement? I can't find anything about it online but I've been looking to buy a 5kw kit and am wondering if I should hold out for the announcement
@@NathanMediaTV it came with a firmware update: "1.0.10.101 *This is a major firmware update. Please perform the firmware update on the Power Kit Console. 1. Improved battery performance: 2kWh and 5kWh LFP batteries now present more accurate SOC (state of charge) percentage. 2. Enabled battery mix: the Power Hub now supports mixed use of 2kWh and 5kWh LFP batteries. To enable this new feature, please connect each battery to the Power Hub and perform the firmware update on the Power Kit Console,one battery at a time. For systems with 2 batteries, 2 separate updates (same firmware version) are required. For systems with 3 batteries, 3 separate updates (same firmware version) are required. Once a battery is successfully updated, it can stay on the Power Hub without having to be removed before performing the firmware update for the next battery."
Gosh 1kw input from alternator is nothing, my volta system takes in 6kw all the time and takes 2+ hours to charge. Cant imagine waiting 12 hours to charge, sometimes we are using our high idle get (from iopedal) and neighbors come over and ask 'when are you going to turn off the vehicle?' ;-) a 15kwh hub would take 15 hours to charge at 1kw, that design just makes no sense...
Great 1 year review, very detailed and balanced. You are becoming my trusted source of truth. Thanks
Awesome! Thank you!
Thanks for the heads up about upcoming additional battery plug & upgrades in charging.
You can charge 130 amps (@12V) from your primary alternator, although it would produce that much more heat and noise inside as well - if you hookup more than one alternator cable. Which is why I have opted for a 48V alternator which bypasses the PowerHub altogether. Also FYI - the latest firmware update will allow you to mix 2kW and 5kW batteries on the system.
We love our eco flow, it’s worth every penny. It’s way better than Bluetti. Love ya! Van Land!
18:56 just remember to wire your panels correctly. The inputs take 60v and 30a. I have 200w bifacial panels that max out at 31v and 6a. So really I can do 4 in parallel on each input.
Can the batteries be placed on its side or on its back to reduce height?
in the video you stated that 12v AC can be an issue due to the DC output being limited to 30A. However the website says that the DC output is up to 70 amps. Maybe I misread, can you confirm?
I was looking at a power system that I could remove the batteries from the van and store them in our house. I live in South Florida and was told I shouldn’t leave lithium batteries in our van when not in use because the temps reach 135 to 150 degrees which could cause damage to the batteries.
Do you have a video for the wiring install for the 48v AC? Do you install 48v AC on Transit vans with an ecoflow kit already installed?
It can come with a 48v cable it's basically plug and play depending on the 48v unit.
Nice! I bought one and just installed it last week with the 48v ac unit!
Can a 48v AC unit be hooked up to the distribution panel rather and not the hub? Thinking of how to remotely turn on/off the air conditioner using a hotspot.
What are the best options when retrofitting this system and the AC breaker is 15A and not 20A?
6:30 Isn't the maximum 12v output 70 amps?
Good catch ッ
Thanks for the explanations. When I built my van this kit was not available. I opted for a Victron set which has been working very well for 2 years.
I can’t wait to install my Vanland EcoFlow Power kit & NomadicCooling 48V AC in a few weeks. Do you know of a way to use EV chargers for the AC input when needed? I know it is an option with the Delta Pro. Thank you for such great pricing and service.
really good overview! In your opinion, which is louder: the power kit or a delta pro 3? Thank you!
Will there be an issue using it with a 220-24v plug? How long it will take to charge 10kw charge rate be vs a regular 120?
Hi there
When you were talking about the batteries charging at cold temperatures.
I have a power hub in our garage that sends power around the garage and the house, but I don’t have one of the consoles.
You said the battery heating elements need to be controlled as not automatic had I scout about in the phone app but can’t find that feature.
I thought the BMS activated the battery heating system, but now wonder about that and don’t want too damage the expensive batteries.
Live in the UK so not super super cold but does get too around -5 c a few bit in winter time.
Thanks Sam
Hi guys. Thanks for the clarifying video. I got an Ecoflow powerkit at the beginning of the year. One reason for my purchase decision was your videos. Thank you for that! So far we haven't had any failures or problems. I only noticed one thing and I would be interested to know if this is still normal behavior! I noticed that the power hub's own consumption is very high. I have a loss of around 5-8% sometimes more battery capacity (2kwh battery) overnight even though the AC & DC outputs are switched off. As you described, some users have a similar problem. Is this still normal consumption? or do I already have a problem here?
i use a power kit with 5kwh battery now for a year here in germany. i have the same situation that the system itself consumes a lot of power. The support recommended last year: "However, we suggest you to perform a SoC calibration to try to improve the issue, the steps are as follows:
1) Please long press the on/off main power button for over 10 seconds to reset it. And then turn it on.
2) Set the discharge/charge level to 0%-100% on the APP.
3) Plug out all output from the power station and charge it till it reaches 100% or 0 input and stops charging.
4) Plug out all input from the power station and discharge it till it reaches 0% and automatically shuts off.
5) Repeat steps 3 and 4 three times. After the SOC calibration, check to see if the issue continues"
For me it brought a small help, but it is pretty much unchanged. Maybe it helps you?! @vanland: Your experiences?
@@OliverMartens have you tried update the firmware? Mine fixed by an OTA update
do they have plans for a 50amp version?
How long does it take to charge when using the alternator (limited solar)
about 1.3 hours while driving according to EcoFlow
Thanks for the video. Been following everything you have on Ecoflow and one question is will this kit works for the Eu vans diy builds? Thanks again for covering and keep us up to date
Yes it will
found this review after my power hub stopped working. i def think my builder overdid the alternator charging with 100amps and i think that damaged the powerhub. not having the ability to charge faster is a huge issue that i'm facing
Oh no! Charging can sometimes be complicated
Great video and for times savings I am leaning towards getting one of these kits. I do have a couple questions: 1. How long on average would 10kw allow you to run the AC?
2. Can it be used with any 48v AC?
TIA!
48v ac is one of the perks for it.
How long it runs will always depend on your ac units usage and more importantly insulation setup and how well you can lock in the cold air and keep out the hot.
Ac units never run 100% of the time, if it is you are doing it wrong. Usually 20% up time per hour. I have a 48v system with the 5kw battery and I'm in Texas. I've had it setup for only a week but it will keep my van 74 all night when set in low mode using 800w and has battery left in the morning.
I've had mine for almost 2 years (I bought a 10 kWh kit the day it came out when they had large discounts and got it August 2022). I now have a 48 volt A/C hooked up to the 3rd battery port and that works great!
2 Questions:
-You mentioned about not going below 5% charge; what is the best practice for BMS balancing? I've heard go down to 0% and then up to 100% at least 3 times to get the BMS programming correct and then to repeat that at least once a month. What do you suggest?
-What about 2nd alternator charging? The app mentions that the 2 solar inputs can now also be alternator inputs but gives no details on how that might be. Do you have any details on that please?
They have a cable now that plugs right in and has connectors to attach right to your terminals. What can do you have? Many already have at least 250amp and you don't need a second alternator as he mentioned
@@edgeofnothing67 I have the cable that came with the PowerKit for the alternator hookup that allows 60 amps of alternator charging. A firmware update allowed upping that to the 70 amps, but I found my Ford Transit has a 60 amp breaker on the connection so I keep it at 60 amps now. Do you have details on the new cable?
I have a 10kw system. The only problem I have had so far is my batteries not charging all the way. I just did a firmware update today, so I hope that fixes it. Also, the fact you need an adapter for the smart generator is annoying, especially since I am waiting for it.
Can I charge my EcoFlow 15 kWh power kit from an EcoFlow 800W alternator charger?
We have had one for a year now too and we love it!
However, we regret the AC unit. It cannot deal with hotter temps, the outlet hose gets so hot that I think its also contributing to heating up the van. Also the cold air blows up, hot air gets sucked in below. Kimda think that the unit just keeps cycling its own air within a small area in front of intake and outlet.
Also - at window dispensing area w intake and outlet side by side - think it may be cycling same air. Would rather put money towards a cruise n comfort or roof AC.
Which AC unit?
@@tjdickman ecoflow
I'm curious about adding extra batteries at a later date. Say you get a 10k kit and 3-4 years later you find it's not quite enough... is it ok to add a 3rd battery or would there be a conflict adding a new batter to the existing setup?
It takes 10 seconds to connect a new one. It can take 10 seconds to install as well if you stack them. They lock right into each other that way. If you need to attach it somewhere else they give brackets to tie it down which would take you like 30 minutes maybe...
You are in luck, It’s mentioned in the video that extension cables will be available in the future.
@@edgeofnothing67 the issue I'm wondering about isn't adding an extra, it's adding a fresh battery to a well used batteries.
In the past with other systems I've seen recommendations against adding new batteries to banks with older batteries because of draw conflicts between the old and new batteries... sort of like the conflicts he mentioned about running a 5k battery and a 2k battery together on 1 hub.
done with ecoflow. switching to anker.
Why's that?
Is there an issue of how many cycles it can handle...
It would be cool if there was a 220V Powerkit. Charging, and 220AC output.
It exists in Europe 230v AC
Yup, 230v single phaseI have it
My discount code didn't work
all EcoFlow products are currently on sale at VanLand.com. There's no code!
Automations available for all other Ecoflow products missing in the Powerkit is such a bummer… Can you please bring this up with them? There’s no reason these lesser products should have this functionality but this kit not…
You can now officially mix 2kWh and 5kWh batteries with the latest firmware update…
New Power Kit will be announced announced at 31th of August 2024.
Where'd you hear about the new power kit announcement? I can't find anything about it online but I've been looking to buy a 5kw kit and am wondering if I should hold out for the announcement
@@NathanMediaTV it came with a firmware update:
"1.0.10.101
*This is a major firmware update. Please perform the firmware update on the Power Kit Console.
1. Improved battery performance: 2kWh and 5kWh LFP batteries now present more accurate SOC (state of charge) percentage.
2. Enabled battery mix: the Power Hub now supports mixed use of 2kWh and 5kWh LFP batteries. To enable this new feature, please connect each battery to the Power Hub and perform the firmware update on the Power Kit Console,one battery at a time. For systems with 2 batteries, 2 separate updates (same firmware version) are required. For systems with 3 batteries, 3 separate updates (same firmware version) are required. Once a battery is successfully updated, it can stay on the Power Hub without having to be removed before performing the firmware update for the next battery."
Gosh 1kw input from alternator is nothing, my volta system takes in 6kw all the time and takes 2+ hours to charge. Cant imagine waiting 12 hours to charge, sometimes we are using our high idle get (from iopedal) and neighbors come over and ask 'when are you going to turn off the vehicle?' ;-) a 15kwh hub would take 15 hours to charge at 1kw, that design just makes no sense...
800W to 15kW, you will destroy your engine.