So...Is Zach Wilson Garbage?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2023
- New York Jets QB Zach Wilson has become one of the most polarizing players in the NFL. A TV analyst once publicly used the word "garbage" when describing his performance in the NFL. So, we plan to give you the facts and let you decide if that was fair...
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Zach Wilson wasn’t supposed to be in this situation right now. This was rodgers team, at least for a few years. Then Wilson was supposed to take over after learning and using rodgers as a mentor. Didn’t work out that way though
“Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth” - Mike Tyson
But my momma said (i can win), "Buster Douglas"
@@StarkRavingSportspoor use of that quote.
Get the double hit of the fact the offense was set up for Rodgers to basically be the OC.
That and the OL being quite terrible
Also there weren't supposed to be 2+ backup lineman
I will never turn down an opportunity to talk about my relationship with the Jets
As a pats fan thank you... your the only good moments I get now
Where’d you get the black jets bomber
@@bonesthegod585I saw this picture of Method Man wearing it on Twitter and someone managed to track down the shop link on the replies
Wilson has grown up a lot so far this season. If he continues to improve by the playoffs, Jets fans will be glad to have him.
That's assuming they make playoffs at all lmfao
if they make the playoffs, rodgers might be back... supposedly the tear wasn't that bad (compared to how bad it could have been)
Lol
He w/ the Bronc's Savik where Bo Nix will rule the rocky mountain boys
Zach Wilson college highlights shows he has crazy arm strength. He was throwing darts
Zach was a project QB. To start him out the gate the way they did was a bad decision
I didn't have a problem with it. But the way they jerked him around in Season 2 shows what a nonsense organization this is. Benching him for a guy who can barely throw beyond the sticks (that CFL guy) would've severely undermined anyone.
Zach has shown so much improvement this season its stunning. Against KC he looked as good as any QB in the game (except for the fumble which could happen to anyone). Considering the facts that he is often running for his life from unblocked defenders and that he has had what seems like an excessive number of dropped passes, he looks like a viable nfl qb. The players have seen these realities and seem to be solidly behind him and more fans are growing that way as well. Almost beating KC, beating philly for the first time, making some amazing throws are moving the needle in his favor and I think rightly so. if he continues this season's rate of improvement he will be very good, very soon.
I think the offensive coordinator needs to open the game up for him. Give him a few options. Rodgers needs to be there to talk to him and help him grow. O-line needs to give him a little more time. And the receivers need to stop dropping passes as they did in the Philly game. He has the talent…but what he does with it is up to him.
He has a 73 passer rating and more picks than TDs
@@JohnDoe-rr1fzhis stats are much worse than they should be, which you can see if u watch any jets game. He constantly gets fucked by his receivers or his o line
Finally someone who actually watches the Jets & football
that was the same thing with tua, im rooting for wilson. its hard to complete a pass when you have to run for your life as soon as you get the ball. everyone said tua was the biggest bust but he had the same oline situation at that time as wilson does now. rodgers literally got hurt the first drive of the season because the oline is that bad
He has definitely improved and it sucks that Rodgers went down because Zach could have grown quite a bit over the course of this season sitting behind him!
Well he now has Rodgers back to talk to on the side line and on the Mic.
@@SR-cv5wvThis is what I noticed immediately. Zach plays way better if Rodgers is talking to him
He’ll be sitting next year and then when it’s it’s turn again he’ll be super duper franchise qb 15 years ready
Watch how this story plays out.
Trevor Lawrence is doing fine and Zach’s suppose to be Mahomes n Rodgers like right? Fields and Matt Jones seem to be doing okay and can show they can do things! Zach Wilson is showing he’s a bust for going #2! He didn’t deserve that spot others should of went #2!
@@JerzE_Grape93You just said Mac jones is doing good? He’s ass, Wilson is better than Mac, Zach Wilson is actually doing good with Rodgers helping him, you have not been watching the nfl lately.
People saying maybe he's a late bloomer and all is crazy. This dude is still only 24 and is still younger than Aaron Rodgers and Joe Burrow were when they made their first career NFL start. Geno Smith is a late bloomer. Zach Wilson is still effectively a rookie, there is plenty of time.
He's already shown improvement in two areas:
-Running forwards to pick up yardage when no one is open instead of just running around sideways and backwards until someone gets open
-Ability to complete short, easy passes. Weird that he had so much trouble with it before, but it was like he thought he had to throw it as hard as he possibly could on short passes. He's gotten that down.
He's certainly not good or Trevor Lawrence, and Hackett's conservative, predictable playcalling in some games and bad OL play have hurt him, but he's at least shown some growth
He now looks like a solid backup option. They are still the lowest scoring offense in the league.
He is improving. The main issue that keeps getting overlooked he continues to loose O-linemen. He is learning and using his legs more.
they have mostly played great secondaries, but that changes after the bye. We will see what he can do then@@ggregg2667
I’ll add in that he looks more comfortable in the pocket. He use to bail out immediately
ZW was drafted to the wrong destination; he needed to go to a more competent team that wasn’t looking to win now. QBs are more easily destroyed than developed; and the Jets is where young drafted QBs typically get destroyed.
It is first year with real offensive coaching. The difference is huge. The issue has been Offensive line, receivers that can't separate, and lack of coaching. The coaching has been better. There are some pieces on offense, but it is still an offensive line, receivers not separating or running wrong routes, or dropping passes. Like yesterday. Add one big penalty. Garrett was hobbling. Other than that, the supporting cast has to do better, too.
tf was rodney harrison doing
Being a hater. He was on the 18-1 Patriots so He probably hates all of New York
He was doing what he’s paid to do.
Rodney Harrison has always been a punk with no TV personality talent. I have no idea why he was given that job; he’s come across rough like that before and created this type of awkwardness on the air.
being an accurate analyst
I wasn't a Zack fan at first but with all the hate from Jets fans and me being a fan of the underdog now I want Zack to mature and become a great QB if just to prove all these horrible Jets "fans" wrong! Go Zack.
It is Jets fans for the most part. I've been following this. They largely don't think for themselves. Whatever the media tells them to hate, that's what they hate.
I've watched like 3 or 4 Jets games this year and I don't really know how that happened.
All I knows, is that he beat Allen and Hurts. And also completely outplayed Mahomes for a loss.
He has a real offensive coach and scheme for the first time in hit career, this is effectively his rookie year in a sense. He’d only played like 20 games coming into this season. Which is why the Jets brought in Rodgers, the idea being he’d sit behind a QB and develop. They were resetting the initial process, which they admit they failed. He still has the arm talent and his jump in a new system with a real coach is palpable. Rarely does a play have a chance to turn their career around with the team they initially flopped for. Not too get too far ahead of myself, still a lot of football left, but if he keeps developing at this pace he just might get that chance.
that last sentence was not worded correctly. it's not that zack outplayed those pro bowl QBs. it's that those QBs played worse than zack did
@@mgtow-balance3409So he outplayed them?
He went #2 and is playing like a bust! He didn’t deserve that spot Fields or even Mac Jones could have went to the Jets and it probably would of been better! Zach Wilson played no REAL competition in college this is facts so why he get so much praise? Jets literally turned they’re back on him and got Rodgers…Old RODGERS yes who’s a legend but he went #2! If Trevor was in that position the whole league and you yourself would be calling him a bust going FIRST and being benched or overlooked for an old MVP!
@@mgtow-balance3409 "I drink the liquid extracts of fruits and vegetables, but I don't drink juice."
I'm not under any illusions that Zach is taking us to the Super Bowl this year, but I'll say 2 things for him:
1) His accuracy is hugely improved this year. He was regularly missing short passes and even passes behind the LOS the last few years, and that basically isn't happening at all anymore. Maybe Hackett actually knows what he's doing.
2) The offensive line is still terrible, especially with Vera-Tucker and now Tippman out again. If Rodgers goes back out there again this season somehow, he's going to get destroyed again. Wilson seems to have been able to take the hits so far - he was sacked 5 times in the win over the Eagles and 4 times against the Broncos, and still won. Maybe it's just his youth, or maybe just luck that none of those hits were hard enough to really hurt him, but that resilience is going to be really important this season.
As much as we all want to place all the stock and hype into a player coming out of college, we all still have to realize that this is jumping into the NFL and playing the best competition and all the pressure to perform in front of the world at the same time. Also, its not easy being so young and to perform immediately. At least with Rodgers hurt hes still got the support of him through this tough time
Trevor Lawrence is doing fine and Zach’s suppose to be Mahomes n Rodgers like right? Fields and Matt Jones seem to be doing okay and can show they can do things! Zach Wilson is showing he’s a bust for going #2! He didn’t deserve that spot others should of went #2!
@AquaBanks .....you only hate Zach because you suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome and it clearly shows 😷🤣😘,,,LETS GO JETS!!! 💪🇺🇲✈️🙌
@@JerzE_Grape93easy to say this in hindsight ZW was the 2-3 ranked Qb out of college and. A lot of QBs need to adjust and be in the right system. B4 Mike McDaniel TUA WAS STRUGGLING and he literally got benched. Look at him now with Tyreek and Waddle and a healthy run game……. Exactly!!!!!
@@KenC4242 don’t even compare Zach to Tua that’s disrespectful and before he had them Tua actually showed he could PLAY IN THE NFL!! Tua played ACTUAL COMPETITION in college nor mediocre to decent teams like BYU did! Zach shouldn’t have been ranked that close to Lawrence who basically is MILES AHEAD of ZW how does that work out if your the #2 pick in the whole draft not #8 not #25 but #2?? Fields and Mac Jones went after and are proving they should of went ahead are they not? ZW hasn’t been better than them even went a TOP DEFENSE
@AquaBanks fields and mac Jones shouldn't have been picked in the first round. Bears are a poverty franchise and Bill is a bad gm. ZW might be statistically worse than those two. But he's the only one of the three whose stats are improving with each game. I give fields next season before he's dropped. And Mac Jones is gone by the end of the year
That edit on Jay Cutler doing the griddy was actually kinda funny.
Jay Cutler is gonna be shocked when he finds out he hit the griddy
Not saying Wilson isn’t at some fault “hasn’t learned how to throw with touch yet “ but the jets Franchise has consistently done a piss poor job developing quarterbacks .. he came from a small school that ran a simple offense & he rarely saw any pressure , he needed work on his mechanics, foot work & comprehension of a pro style offense & diagnostics of defensive alignments ,, Hacketts presence has made a noticeable difference imho , Zach still needs to tighten up a few things & become faster at his reads & more decisive in the red zone .. but his work in between the 20s is much better , he’s a year & a half behind in development compared to most 3rd year quarterbacks, again I blame his original offensive coordinators lack of interest in developing him for this ,
Would have been nice to wait a bit and put yesterday's Eagles game in there but good stuff
Got completely hosed by the refs in that chiefs game. Not the worst call in a big spot in recent memory, but up there. All I could think was they NFL didn't want the swifty fans to be upset so they told the refs to start calling defensive holding even though they hadn't been calling it all game up until that point
I’m definitely in the minority but I’ve always been rooting for this guy
He's not garbage that's just the media being dumb.
It's not Zach's fault that he was chosen this high. Yes he's not a number 2 quarterback, but dammit he's been okay enough for them to be above .500. But Rodney Harrison is such a damn clown for what he said trying to get another player to bash him. He knows damn well hiw tough it is to play quarterback, especially being dropped in a win-now mode, not even mentioning he's playing IN NEW YORK. Arguably the toughest and most scrutinized market there is in the NFL. He should know better 😒
Lost all respect for Rodney.
@@rumporridge1 absolutely. And I had IMMENSE respect for that dude too 🤦🏿
@@DwayneIsKing i never respected him or his sucka ass homeboy tedy bruschii. i watched a LOT of jets / patriots games. i noticed that both of them would take extra shots after they made a tackle. i don't know how they never got called out for that. maybe rodney was cool in san diego, but after seeing that happen a few times with new england, i never respected any of them
Mannnnn those first 3 games this season it seemed his OL just didnt care about him and let him get destroyed
He’s doing ok for a backup right now. He’s at least shown progress. I wanted him sent to the CFL last year but he’s won me over.
I guess you didn't see his o line allowing 60 mins of pressure and his receivers dropping passes...has he made mistakes yes
i just think american sports fans and sports media are way too quick to elevate hype for young guys and also tearing them down
it takes time to figure out the highest levels of pro sports. not everyone can be a lebron james or aaron rodgers and start doing insanely well at the pro level
but at the same time just because young guys don’t reach that level in their first couple seasons it doesn’t mean they’re trash
Thank you for this video. I never really liked the guy but I now understand that homie is getting a bad break. Imma watch him closer from now on
He’s showing significant improvement. Also, the stats with JR might be identical, it’s no question that coming out, Zach has the more talented arm. Zach issue has always been his decision making with ball security and read progression. His ball security has gotten significantly better. His 3 pick game against Dallas, every pick came in the final 10 minutes of the game, down 3 scores, trying to push the ball, and only one of the 3 picks was wildly off target. One he got hit while throwing, the other was tipped by the receiver. My biggest issue with the Zach Wilson hate, is where was this kid destined to be good with the tools he has been given? LaFleur was a first year OC with no experience developing a quarterback or calling plays with Kyle Shanahan the head coach in San Fran. The guy that was meant to be the veteran mind in the qb room passed away before he even took a snap in practice, and they never brought someone else in to help both him, and LaFleur. Also, LaFleur didn’t mold a system to highlight Wilson’s strength, he was very “you have to fit this system the way I need you to”, and had no clue how to make adjustments. We drafted Garrett Wilson and Breece, great, but who else do you have? Our offensive line? One of the dirt cheapest lines that has ranked bottom 5 in pass block win rate the last 2 years, and is second to last so far this year, with injuries decimating the already terrible group even more. Trevor Lawrence? He’s a good quarterback, yeah, his rookie year was a mess too. He threw for 3600, yeah, but watch the tape. Kid had twice as many turnovers bc he put the ball on the ground 3 times a game too. So what’d they do? Fored Urban Meyer. Brought in an offensive minded head coach who knew how to develop a qb. They went out and signed the right guys for him to target, gave him weapons, set up a decent line to protect him, and he broke out. It’s not all about Zach. The team needs to be set up for him to succeed too, and it vastly has not been. If it always just fell onto the shoulders of the quarterback, then Mahomes wouldn’t be having an awful season with no receivers or line.
No he’s not! He went #2 and is playing like a bust! He didn’t deserve that spot Fields or even Mac Jones could have went to the Jets and it probably would of been better! Zach Wilson played no REAL competition in college this is facts so why he get so much praise? Jets literally turned they’re back on him and got Rodgers…Old RODGERS yes who’s a legend but he went #2! If Trevor was in that position the whole league and you yourself would be calling him a bust going FIRST and being benched or overlooked for an old MVP!
@@JerzE_Grape93 come back in another few weeks and let’s see if his improvement continues. To me, this is his rookie year.
@@JerzE_Grape93Go Watch the 2023-2024 nfl, you’re watching the wrong year
Never forget that the personal coach they hired to mentor and help him was killed in an accident a month before his rookie year
R.I.P Greg Knapp
A reporter asked “do you feel you let the defense down?” Wilson said “No.” if he said Yes, I let the defense down, the narrative would have been he lacked the confidence to make it as a starting QB in NY.
Wilson had knee injuries in his first and second year. He missed training camp last year. He was the backup getting minimal reps this year. The national media made his mom the lead story over him being the second overall pick. Then his Ex airs their dirty laundry on social media - if a man did that to a woman, the guy would be destroyed! He’s played Belichick 5 times which accounts for most of his turnovers; most young QBs have similar experiences. He’s been awful, just like all the other Quartbacks for the Jets that came before him.
*I still believe in Zach Wilson!
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I don’t get why the ESPN media teams were shitting on him. He makes big time plays.
Big time plays?????? are you blind some folk are pure delusional when t comes to this Kid. Mark Sanchez looks like Tom Brady compared to him.
He is garbage are you serious! Matt Sanchez played better than Zach ever did and he didn’t go #2! Wilson was not a better QB than Fields or Matt Jones
@@bondson0094 yeah dude big time plays. He's got a top 5 arm in the nfl. honestly throws the most pretty deep ball right now
@@avery4528He has never hit a reciever in stride for a TD in his life for a TD over 31 sir yards with YAC. He has one schemed TD over 12 yards in 27 games. His deep ball sucks
He's not looking at the rush coming for him anymore, keeping his eyes down the field, that's the first step in the right direction to become a good QB👍 he'll get the rest in time.
I have been and remain a Zach Wilson believer, it’s definitely hard but I see a lot of potential with him and I think if he gets the mentorship from Rodgers that he was meant to, he can be a good to great QB for us. And of course getting O line help is a necessity
He needs to focus on football and not moms
Meh
That ZW milf-story was last pre-season.
@@TheHighlanderprime Yeah but one of these things he has a future in, And the other one of these things is football
Moron
He’s just as projected, a late bloomer picked at #2 from BYU who was selected by a terrible team when it comes to patience and properly grooming a young and raw QB. Jets fans in NYC are more starved to win now; they’d trash any developing QB that don’t hit the ground running like Justin Herbert or Joe Burrow.
Regarding Trevor Lawrence, the team and new HC in Peterson trusted him enough to allow him to throw the ball and work his way through his mistakes and INTs. ZW never had this luxury in NYC with a rookie HC, a rookie OC and a fanbase with PTSD and zero patience for a raw and young developing QB because winning immediately is all they’ve ever cared for because they’ve been losers forever.
He's been very noticably better so far this year, and has had a better mindset too. I think there's a decent chance he becomes at least a middling QB in the league
He's not garbage....but he'll never be an elite QB. He's a Rex Grossman, Ryan Fitzpatrick...amd seemingly Justin fields. When He's good...He's good...when he's bad...he's AWFUL, and no in-between
Still way too early for that assessment.
Daniel Jeremiah single-handedly shot this dude’s draft stock through the roof at his pro day. Kid had one throw that was absurd in terms of pure arm talent, but in no way did he show an elite ability to understand defensive schemes.
Did Justin Fields who was at one point the projected #1 pick with as much high competition college experiences showed an elite ability to understand defensive schemes?
How about about Peyton Manning? He was worst than ZW after 2 seasons; and it took him about 4 seasons to finally find his groove. For some reason, the bar’s been raised much higher with zero patience for ZW’s development curve.
@@TheHighlanderprime It's New York -- that's kind of how we do. The last QB the Jets developed successfully was kept off camera for two years.
Give zach credit he been critized so much media bashing him and he shut those haters up last 3 games 😊
That nowhere in here did you even mention the Jets truly terrible offensive line play is criminal negligence.
i think a lot of us have gotten spoiled and expect a rookie qb to come in and play like how Marino did - it's not the norm, even Peyton had to take a few real bad seasons to find his footing. I think Wilson will be fine if given the time and support - he certainly could have folded under the pressure that he's under and yet here we are, the Jets at 3-3 and looking like they could pull off a run with what the upcoming schedule looks like.
Yeah sort of like Shroud, Howell and Richardson
@@TonydaGM They're off to good starts especially given the talent level of their teams - espeically Shroud. As a Dolphins fan, this highlights why Im not sold on Tua. Shroud doesnt have the talent Tua is working with and yet Shroud is putting up similiar if not better numbers. Either way, glad to see more potential franchise QBs - the NFL is always better with top tier QBs for all of us to watch.
@@The_Zilli I'm a Jet fan , I wanted Howell and Hooker. Hooker can throw a football.
@chriszilli9717 I'm a Jet fan , nothing wrong with Tua except injury history. I think the supporting cast is helping him a lot
@@TonydaGM exactly, that and the coaching staff which makes it really difficult to tell if he's legit or just benefitting from the absurd amount of talent around him right now. How many QBs have a 4x100 track team at their disposal lol
Mike LaFleur stunted Zach's development completely and itll always be overshadowed by the quote that Connor Hughes baited him into. ill die on this hill seeing actual growth now
The QB's not named Wilson averaged over 300 yards with ML.
that does nothing to prove he is a good OC@@TonydaGM
Wilson is good but needs help to become good enough
He's clearly improving. Keep him behind Rogers for another year...and keep the game simple for him until then Rogers is back this season, and he may turn into a legit NFL QB.
Previous years aside this is the first season he has a real offensive coach and scheme, this is effectively his rookie year in a sense. He’d only played like 20 games coming into this season. Which is why the Jets brought in Rodgers, the idea being he’d sit behind a QB and develop. They were resetting the initial process, which they admit they failed. He still has the arm talent and his jump in a new system with a real coach is palpable. Rarely does a player have a chance to turn their career around with the team they initially flopped for. Not to get too far ahead of myself, still a lot of football left, but if he keeps developing at this pace he just might get that chance.
You and I are making a much layered analysis of ZW than most; thecae’t understand the prejudicial hatred and profound impatience against this kid.
He went #2 and is playing like a bust! He didn’t deserve that spot Fields or even Mac Jones could have went to the Jets and it probably would of been better! Zach Wilson played no REAL competition in college this is facts so why he get so much praise? Jets literally turned they’re back on him and got Rodgers…Old RODGERS yes who’s a legend but he went #2! If Trevor was in that position the whole league and you yourself would be calling him a bust going FIRST and being benched or overlooked for an old MVP!
@@JerzE_Grape93yeah so make the best of the situation not be bitter
Nobody you mentioned has ostensibly outplayed him. JF started the season, weeks 1-3, worse than ZW. Mac Jones is arguably the worst QB in the NFL right now. And ZW has looked incrementally better each week this year, especially the last 3 weeks- not to jinx it. The last 3 weeks he's been putting up top 15 QB numbers, advanced statistics show. Which is why you need to consider that ZW never had a legitimate offensive coach before this season. @@JerzE_Grape93
Is Zach Wilson hooked on purple drank?
nah that was jay cutler
You said Zach only won 3 of his 13 games. But The Jaguars only won 3 games in 2021. So Lawrence had more losses and at least the same wins.
Zack Wilson is definitely not garbage. How many quarterbacks come into the league and perform well the rookie year? Has Trevor done well? Certainly not in his rookie year and I think he is going to be a great quarterback eventually. The 2 young men who went to Chicago and San Francisco have not done well either. I think the quarterback for San Francisco is out of the game completely due to injury. None of these young men are garbage. I think the problem is with fans, impatient, critical, with narrow vision and wanting instant gratification. There are no young men playing in he NFL that are garbage, most of them are highly skilled, motivated, dedicated and want very much to be the best they can be. I wish them all well and appreciate their efforts. Have a great day.
Here's what we know:
Wilson first two years in the league were under Mike LaFleur, without a doubt one of the worst OC's in recent years and someone who should never be anywhere near young developing players. LaFleur had a habit of throwing young talented high draft picks under the bus rather than waste his precious time developing them if they weren't NFL ready right out of the gate. And it wasn't just Wilson that LaFleur ruined, it was also Denzel Mims, Elijah Moore and Mekhi Becton. LaFleur was a one man wrecking crew of the Jets youth movement. Wilson not only did not progress under LaFleur's "tutelage", he regressed in those two ugly years.
And, of course, the Jets have been at the bottom of the league in protecting the quarterback since Wilson entered the league. Ranking at the bottom or close to it in QB pressures allowed.
We all see what Jets pressure did to the likes of Allen, Mahomes and Hurts this year, but Jets analysts and fans don't seem to have the mental accuity to apply that to their own young, developing QB. And, of course, the less mobile Jets QBs have been maimed when they came in. Mike White forced to the sidelines by injuries twice in his four games and Aaron Rodgers after four snaps. Wilson has avoided the same fate by being agile and being able to run for his life, which he pretty much has had to do from first snap to last in every Jet game he has played.
And, then there's the running game. Other than Breece Hall's individual brilliance breaking off a big one here and there, it is less than mediocre and can't be relied on to ever give Wilson anything better than a second and nine or third and seven. This has been a function of horrific offensive line and a pathetic OC who was incapable of scheming anything open. Not the ideal situations to having to pass from.
The receivers don't get open. Certainly not in the miniscule time frame before Wilson is mauled.
Even Garrett Wilson is more of a I'll make an unbelievable acrobatic catch while covered than a guy who gets consistently open.
Finally, Nathaniel Hackett has been able to scheme to Wilson's strengths and against his weaknesses and it has shown with dramatic improvement over the past three games. Rollouts to buy some precious time, moving Wilson around in the pocket so he doesn't have to try to throw out of a silo (he's not tall), motion, scheming receivers open - all of these things are new for Wilson as LaFleur was not competent enough to scheme off of a pure vanilla, staid, remarkably predictable offense and it took Hackett a couple of weeks to adjust his offense off of Rodgers and onto Wilson.
We know that Wilson has the physical skills to be a star. But we have no idea what his ceiling is because he's never had a fighting chance of an opportunity with everything stacked against him. Maybe he'll never be able to read NFL defenses properly. Maybe he's already started moving in that direction now that he actually has an opportunity. Maybe Rodgers will rub off on him. Maybe not. After two wasted years under LaFleur, the reset button has been hit.
But if you blame Wilson's troubles on Wilson the last two years, then you are either an incompetent analyst or a lazy one because there has been an avalanche of factors working against Wilson.
Zach Wilson is improving
bruh in 2021 Lawrence had 600 passing attempts nearly double zach wilsons, Im no jets fan but pretty sure theres more to that statline than just Yards and TD's. Coming into his 3rd year and the Jets trying to bench him without a real shot. he's already on track to have more pass attempts than his whole 2022 season in less than 3 weeks. Give the homeboy some time to grow damn
Zach "milf hunter" Wilson
I want that to become his nickname so bad
I’m almost every game you’ll see flashes of his talent but then he’ll make a boneheaded play. I hope he can turn it around with Rodgers’ guidance but he definitely is on a short leash
Tell you the truth I'm not seeing the boneheaded plays anymore. Or what I think I really mean is that the boneheaded plays almost always belong to another player.
"Jesus Christ -- Connor McGovern flagged for running down the field. Why does he keep doing that?" "Oof, the ball hit him right in that hands. I wish he'd caught it, but that's a tough spot for a receiver to make a catch if you really look at it" are mutters at the TV when I've been watching games this year. [edit: the second quote is sarcastic. I've been told my sarcasm is undetectable, which leads to a lot of weird conversations.]
@@jessejordache1869 I think it stems from us Jets fans being so used to dumping it all on Zach every time something goes wrong with the offense that when the mistakes come from other players we just intuitively blame Zach. He still has those wtf moments like the time he threw a pass directly to Matt Milano but there have been less moments where it’s simply Zach being inept
@@Reaper_ginger Yeah, bad interception, no doubt. But that game featured the last incident of a few of Zach's bad habits -- I haven't seen "invisible zone defender syndrome" or "whirling Dervish Zach" since. Now it's just a lot of "red zone booby trapped to raise the forcefield around the endzone syndrome" which seems to be more of a group problem.
So, I just got through a review of the Eagles-Miami game, and the Miami fans are like "you can't POSSIBLY expect good quarterback play when you have three offensive linemen out", and I'm like "you guys have no clue."
I got about three minutes into this video before the full.... wtf is this black flags matter doing an NFL video for SRS?!?!? This is the kinda collab that makes me love this channel and everyone you choose to highlight
Wilson got a bad wrap. As an Eagles fan, the Philly D wasnt making it easy on ZW and he still made some nice plays.
His defense has to win games... so short answer... yup 😂😂
He's complete garbage. He's done nothing to improve since he got into the league. Literally nothing.
🔥🗑. the League's Worst Player
Yea he’s been “improving” but he’s pretty much going from the 32nd best qb by a long shot to only barely the worst qb in the league. He still sucks and the team wins despite him
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Zach Wilson has untapped magic in him, and there is nothing like emerging from mediocrity to prove it. I hope he remains the Jets quarterback into the playoffs.
As someone who watches the Jets, yes. He is complete garbage. He has just managed to make less mistakes, and let the defense and breece carry him. Which is good. They will absolutely need to move on from him after the season.
I think he's the guy, he's shown me enough this year that he can be that dude for us. Has the flashes of that arm talent while he has clearly learned how to manage a game now.
I think Zach had the highest PFF grade as a QB in his last year in college
Obviously made this after eagles win but ill give you that. I agree he needs consistency and then we will keep winning games.
Imagine being Zach Wilson and watching this.
He impressed the hell out of me taking questions post a rough game on the podium.
Packer fan that has been watching the jets games this season. Question; what QB does their best work when they are running for their lives as soon as they take the snap? Rogers was running for his life on the 4 snaps he took. Are Jets fans so used to this they can't see it?
It seems like the coaching staff took one training wheel off before the chiefs game and left it like that up to this current point. Zach has been able to handle the broader offense but it still seems like he is being held back by the system ex not throwing the ball down the feild. I believe with this by week they are going to implement the rest of the offense and fully give him the keys we will see how it pans out
What’s concerning with Zach Wilson. You can say these past three weeks has been his best stretch of football, in the pros. And it’s no where near top 10 QB play. And if you’re not a top 10 QB in this league, you’re not winning the Super Bowl. Glad he’s not flat out losing games anymore. But Zach’s not the guy
Thank you!!
Not the guy the jets have been moving the ball more and driving down the field you Cleary haven't watched games
Lol I’m watching this like.. “that sounds just like Black Flags Matter, like exactly like” lol.
Great vid too!
Well we’re blessed to have EXACTLY him on the squad 💜
HE'S NOT GARBAGE, HE JUST VERY RAW
I didn’t know BFM made Football Videos! Both of my sports covered by the same guy 😂
I believe if he had this mentoring/coaching from the day he got drafted he would be a way different player. Time will tell, rooting for the kid
He looks like a high school kid thrown into NFL games. He might need 3 to 4 more years to mature.
Can't wait to see the jamarcus Russell vid lol
7:26 that’s so facts my mood depends on that every sunday
Wilson played a perfect game. 0 interceptions, 0 fumbles. The only stat which matters for him is turnovers
0 TD's
I'm a Zach Wilson fan and I've never used the excuses that he shouldn't have played right away or that he wasn't meant to play last season. Maybe there are upsides to those arguments, but I never felt like his success hinged on those factors. Rather I see that the problems are very much organizational. It's why Zach could very much struggle next year in a Jets system even with all his advancements (were he to somehow stay on the team and play). It's unfortunate, because a guy like Zach was made to succeed in a glitz and glamour market like New York.
He also has Nathaniel hackett as a coordinator. He literally was brought in for rodgers. His style does not match wilsons abilities. He needs a guy like steichen or shannahan type.
I guess we can all agree now that college stats don't amount to a hill of beans. Especially if you play at BYU. Yes, I know Steve Young went there and had a HOF career. But there is always an exception to the rule.
Put Zach in the Rams. He would be a better QB
Light is dawning over Marblehead. Keep up the good work, Zach! Zach's improvement is why Rodgers wants to get back to playing NOW. Playing is better for Zach's improvement than backing up for Rodgers (although perhaps not as good for the Jets prospects this year).
Not sure about that -- last year, I think arguably his best game was his first, against the Steelers. After that, his trajectory was overall downwards. The cumulative effect of constant pressure often makes QB play deteriorate -- it's the reason you often understudy QBs in the first place: if you throw Aaron Rodgers onto the field in his first year, you probably never get his SB level play for most of his career after his third year.
Zach Wilson has undoubtedly become more confident and mature this season than he did in 2022 pulling out some more improbable wins that he probably shouldn’t have gotten, but he alongside the entire jets team needs to learn how to show up in the first quarter and then this jets team without Rodgers will start to win more games than losing.
Hes young talented but doesnt have the processing speed to be an effective throw
Might be a blessing in disguise for Zach the way it happen this is a young guy and getting praise from Patrick, & having Aaron Rodgers mentoring you.....he could be a late bloomer just needed the right support system
Istg, people we're saying Zach is a bust as far as Bryce young is in His career but for Bryce Its "theres Players Like payton manning that Bloom late" but for Zach they dont do that
@@anysimon1635 very true
It took me way too long to figure out that you're black flags matter
Bfm is doing football?!
He is for us :)
Seems like he’s regressed a little since the KC game.
I can’t imagine if Zach Wilson played under Urban Meyer
He’s a great example of why rookies often sat a year or two back in the old days.
They still do.
He is horrible no matter how much he has "improved". The only reason the Jets have won ANY games is because the defense is very good and Wilson has made some insane catches.
I have no idea why the Jets continue to play him.
its hard for Zach Wilson to shine when we have greats such as Jimmy G to compare him to.
Rodgers being there will help Wilson grow as a player’s qb from there who knows I think he has the arm strength to play at a high level but getting team mates to buy in and playing that role is something I worry about
to be honest he looks like he's improving.
New York will run this kid out of town and probably when he’s about to blossom into a good player. I was impressed with him during the eagles game. And most commentators didn’t give him 1 iota of a positive. I wouldn’t play for a New York team for all of the “tea in china” as my grandmother would say. … and I’m a New Yorker today nfl channel announced he’s in the top 5 QB pass rushers. His press conference after the eagles game showed his maturity from last year and he looks happy, like he’s having fun.
Neither Zach nor Trevor will be a hof
4 tds 5 int only 1 game over 200 yards this year doesn’t impress me. He’s not blowing the game which is an improvement but that’s about it.
He would of had 200 yards had Lazard not of taken that penalty when Wilson made his best play, possibly a touchdown after because they would of been in the red zone, luckily for him he’s got the giants and defenses that aren’t as good for awhile to hopefully build some confidence.
@@KPowers-ri5rp and if my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle. Haven’t used that one in years lol. True about the giants. I’d love to see them dominate them .
@@JT-xn1qq that was a good one not gonna lie.
@@KPowers-ri5rp all in good fun buddy
Sometimes yes and no. But look what he and the Jets did to the Eagles!! They ended their opponent’s undefeated record after being 0-12 in franchise history!!
I can’t have an opinion on Zach Wilson because all I’ve seen is an incompetent offensive line every year of his career
Jets and quarterbacks don't mix - there is ZERO QB development in that organization. And I'm a life-long Jets fan.