Such a great video! To bad the younger generation has no desire to learn these techniques,and be taught by the elders of engines on the performance side! Thank you Gerald. From East Tennessee, Ronnie
I think it's an experience thing to be honest. I feel like it has to do with interest in why a setup or component works better or worse/ fails that gets guys into engine building. A "What can we do to fix this" mindset. Younger guys just want to buy a setup that works so they can get out and use it. "I don't need to know engine tolerances I just need to pay someone who does" etc. The other side of that is in the time it would take them to learn with mixed results they can work OT and afford to get to it done right.
Thank you for another incredible video! It is interesting to learn that cam shafts can be bent during shipping to that degree as well as what you do test and adjust them. I continue to learn from each video. Thank you for proving that you can teach this old dog. Much love, prayers, and ear scratches for Ruby.🙏💜
I for one have never seen an engine builder check and straighten a camshaft. Amazing attention to detail. You keep putting out the content and I'll keep watching.👍👍
I like the 'old school' techniques of using a V-block when a V-block does the job of a specialty tool that you don't have. Its always great to get back to the basics that drove automotive and aerospace industries for so long. A robot and a CMM aren't required, just someone who thinks on their feet, just like their father did and his father before that. Good common sense applied methodically gives great opportunity.
These days so few common sense things have been passed down that many today believe that aliens must have built things in the ancient world. We are a generation of unlimited knowledge at our fingertips, yet zero wisdom and very little common sense.
Another great video. Lots of tech about flat tappet camshafts I had never seen before. Nice to get some answers with the rate of camshaft failures you hear about.
I used to order my solid lifter cams for SBC circle track engines cut on Nascar Cup engine cores because of the higher Rockwell hardness numbers. Excellent video Gerald.
Great VIDEO!!!!!! man I have been learning so much watching your videos and I have been around/built/machined engines for my Late Model for over 30 years and I enjoy learning more thank you for sharing
Amazing information. Looks like I’m assembling this new little 383 myself. It’s been 36 years since I did one, and times are different. Really appreciate you helping normal guys like me.
Often wondered how many variables there are in camshafts, thanks for the insight sir you have a great way of explaining these processes you go through building an engine.💯👍👍
The thing you're teaching someone like me who usually takes parts to a machine shop and has the work performed is I know see all the work that goes into it which makes the price seem alot more reasonable. I'm also learning what to look for in a great machine shop. I'm enjoy anything that sounds good and runs even better but my main love is Harleys. Thanks for the video Gerald
A great video explaining a problem a lot of folks don't run into! I rebuilt a Volvo inline four engine one time, back in the dark ages half a century ago, and ran into just such a problem. Volvo engines are built to pretty high standards and tolerances with this one having five main bearings, each one bigger than an American V8 crank bearing. I had pulled in five new cam bearings and then had the block line bored. I bought a new factory camshaft that was shipped in it's own protective tube, but it didn't seem to want to go into the block correctly. Experimentation showed a problem with the camshaft, so I took it to my trusted local machine shop. There they mounted the camshaft on the lathe and put the dial indicator on it. Turned out it was out of line on the center bearing by something like .015". The machinist had never seen such a thing and was surprised it hadn't broken rather than being bent. I took the camshaft back to the Volvo dealer who also checked and was surprised to find the same thing. Needless to say it was immediately traded for a brand new camshaft as quickly as one could get there. But I learned to always keep those possibilities in the back of my mind.
Thank you, Thank you! This information was also missing from my DYI engine builder kit. I had a cam go flat 15 min into the 20 min break in procedure. So disappointing I almost cried. I purchased the long block 383 stroker motor from a builder in Texas and followed his procedure exactly and it still wiped 4 lobes. I used the exact oil and zinc additive he recommended, but of course he insisted I had done something wrong. When I provided him all the receipts as proof he stopped taking my calls and blocked my phone. I should have known better as he was 6 weeks late in delivering the motor to start with. I was just looking for a simple motor swap and it turned into a very expensive nightmare. Mr. Brand, you are really getting the video production quality higher with every episode. I have learned more from you and Chief this winter than all my years of wrenching. Thank you, Sir.
Ive been through a shop or 2 but i never seent the process of checkin hardness. Thanks for showin an ole boy! I guess that can be added while checkin clearances before final assembly. I put a big fat sharpie in my lathe and machine to lifter size to check my cam centers. Sharpie brand only cuz the fat cases got almost a quarter inch of meat you can cut down.
Most engine builders will not show folks some of this info. Hats off to you sir. I have no choice but to subscribe to your channel. I believe it will become huge. Thanks
Another cool video. A helpful video could be one on setting rocker arms. One on degreeing a cam. Tuning a carb. Setting timing curves. Those are a few ideas off the top of my head that would be helpful to a lot of average Joes. Have a good day
I just switched to the tool steel cam and lifters. I ran the same Schuebeck lifters for 20 years. We will convert them to solids for use in a backup engine. Great video.
tool steel flat tappet lifters?? whoa ....ps...im looking thru my harbor freight catalog but i cant find the rockwell hardness tester, im guessing thats a special order item
I think I'm gonna need to see a dyno video on Jackies motor. I'm gonna need to see some numbers on that deal. I gotta make sure I got enough to drive by her at the 500' mark. LOL. Your videos are very informative. The details you deliver are priceless information that people like me really appreciate. Keep it up, knowledge is power.
Machining brass lifter shims sounds very interesting! Also do you have a specific take on tolerances in lifter bores? And, could lifters be angled to ease radical pushrod angles when port pinches are ground off for higher flow numbers?
Man I wish us import guys had guys like you/shops that would do videos on our kinda motors. Specifically for me lol 2jz motors 😅. Not saying we don't have good shops. Some of the best shops in the country are here in FL. But everyone is so unbelievable secretive about it. Especially in the race 1000 to 2000+hp import race engines . So little what you talk about would Correlate to my motor. But I love hearing about it. And if anything it's something to think about and ask questions down the road with dealing with a shop. Thanks for your videos and keep it up.
Thank you for the interesting tech video. Surprise to know many people understand this tech video. I would like to understand this video like them !. Will keep on learning.👍
That's a interesting about flat tappet lifters needing to rotate and needing to be offset on the lobe to do so. Thank you for sharing this with us! Can the lifters you check in the hardness tester be used in a engine?
First video I've watched without BigCheif and like it just the same! Thanks for going through some tech and showing some steps. Really can appreciate (just some of) the many details that can get overlooked and how you implement the checks. All the best 👍
Lots of information great video. My dad has told me since i was a child don't lay cams and cranks down they bend easy. Like the Midwest street cars plug.
Thank you for sharing more of your great knowledge in this awesome video and including the cutie ❤Ruby❤. Really nice camshaft, checker and straightener.
WOW love this i never knew this very interesting. I bought a cam once and on the way home i opend the box and it was broke. Glad we werent far from the parts store, so i could see how one could be bent.
Thank you for posting this. The lifter locator is something many of us have never considered. Have you ever measured the crown on lifters with your height gauge? I have 4 brand new lifters from Melling that I have found questionable using a German made straight edge that is highly accurate along with a flashlight, not exact but if I see light, I feel I am good. Four did not pass the test after several tries. A Rockwell hardness tester for the average guy is not going to get much use. What about hardness files? There are files available from machinist supply companies that sell files for checking hardness. I forget the number of files in the kit all with a different pattern and they are used as any other file. Start on a file rated lower than the hardness anticipated and work up until a mark is left in the metal. That will be the hardness rating of the piece being tested. These are a bit less expensive than a dedicated machine e.g. a set from McMaster-Carr has a range from 40C to 65 C and costs $136.00, cheaper than a rebuild and a dedicated tester with a dial , over $1,000.00 and up. I have seen some companies that sell the files in different ranges but I forget if that is for the A, B and C scale or hardness range within C-scale. I will machine myself a lifter position tester, very cool idea. The engine I am building is probably going to be the last one I ever do and I am trying to do pro work for longevity and power using old school stuff along with modern honing techniques and piston rings. Excellent video.
Had a bent cam set to me from Bullet Cams, was also oversized from factory specs and wouldn't fit in the block. Which lead to me to find out about it being bent. The box it was shipped in was perfectly fine. To their credit they took it back and fixed it
That was very interesting. I never thought about checking to see the taper on a cam. I always that a new cam would be straight and the lifters would ride correctly.
👍🏻 Video. Learned some things on this one! Is the hardness tool used for diagnostic of a failed part/ engine? I assume the indentions the machine leaves aren't ok for new/ parts to be reused? Also, the bent new camshaft concept is concerning. I've never checked a new camshaft for that. 😬
The bent cam, WOW! did not realize that could happen. Nice video!
A world of knowledge in that head. I pray someone young is utilizing this man to gain his knowledge.
Such a great video! To bad the younger generation has no desire to learn these techniques,and be taught by the elders of engines on the performance side! Thank you Gerald. From East Tennessee, Ronnie
I think it's an experience thing to be honest. I feel like it has to do with interest in why a setup or component works better or worse/ fails that gets guys into engine building. A "What can we do to fix this" mindset. Younger guys just want to buy a setup that works so they can get out and use it. "I don't need to know engine tolerances I just need to pay someone who does" etc.
The other side of that is in the time it would take them to learn with mixed results they can work OT and afford to get to it done right.
I love the tech you show us. Amazing how much you have learned over the years. Thanks for sharing.
thank you for watching kevin
@Brand Racing Engines I love the tips and knowledge. I'll watch everyone you put out.
Learning something new every time I watch this channel, Thanks Gerald.
Thank you for another incredible video! It is interesting to learn that cam shafts can be bent during shipping to that degree as well as what you do test and adjust them. I continue to learn from each video. Thank you for proving that you can teach this old dog. Much love, prayers, and ear scratches for Ruby.🙏💜
I for one have never seen an engine builder check and straighten a camshaft. Amazing attention to detail. You keep putting out the content and I'll keep watching.👍👍
I like the 'old school' techniques of using a V-block when a V-block does the job of a specialty tool that you don't have. Its always great to get back to the basics that drove automotive and aerospace industries for so long. A robot and a CMM aren't required, just someone who thinks on their feet, just like their father did and his father before that. Good common sense applied methodically gives great opportunity.
These days so few common sense things have been passed down that many today believe that aliens must have built things in the ancient world. We are a generation of unlimited knowledge at our fingertips, yet zero wisdom and very little common sense.
It's really cool to see these clips, it explains away the dark magic that some of us know of these things.
Another great video. Lots of tech about flat tappet camshafts I had never seen before. Nice to get some answers with the rate of camshaft failures you hear about.
Did not know I needed this tech. I just accepted “no oil bad” as the only cause of flat tappets wiping. Feel a lot better now! Thank you!
Outstanding video. Excellent insight into what is done at a proper machine shop. You're a great teacher.
I used to order my solid lifter cams for SBC circle track engines cut on Nascar Cup engine cores because of the higher Rockwell hardness numbers. Excellent video Gerald.
Never thought a new cam would be bent. Great video
Great VIDEO!!!!!! man I have been learning so much watching your videos and I have been around/built/machined engines for my Late Model for over 30 years and I enjoy learning more thank you for sharing
Somebody PLEASE get this man a TV show!!! This is great info!!!
Amazing information. Looks like I’m assembling this new little 383 myself. It’s been 36 years since I did one, and times are different. Really appreciate you helping normal guys like me.
Often wondered how many variables there are in camshafts, thanks for the insight sir you have a great way of explaining these processes you go through building an engine.💯👍👍
This is some serious tech advice. Love hearing from someone who knows a lot more than me. Keep it up
I never thought how much goes into a performance engine build! Great video!
The thing you're teaching someone like me who usually takes parts to a machine shop and has the work performed is I know see all the work that goes into it which makes the price seem alot more reasonable. I'm also learning what to look for in a great machine shop. I'm enjoy anything that sounds good and runs even better but my main love is Harleys. Thanks for the video Gerald
Thanks for sharing. You tought this old dog a couple things.
A great video explaining a problem a lot of folks don't run into!
I rebuilt a Volvo inline four engine one time, back in the dark ages half a century ago, and ran into just such a problem. Volvo engines are built to pretty high standards and tolerances with this one having five main bearings, each one bigger than an American V8 crank bearing. I had pulled in five new cam bearings and then had the block line bored. I bought a new factory camshaft that was shipped in it's own protective tube, but it didn't seem to want to go into the block correctly. Experimentation showed a problem with the camshaft, so I took it to my trusted local machine shop. There they mounted the camshaft on the lathe and put the dial indicator on it. Turned out it was out of line on the center bearing by something like .015". The machinist had never seen such a thing and was surprised it hadn't broken rather than being bent. I took the camshaft back to the Volvo dealer who also checked and was surprised to find the same thing. Needless to say it was immediately traded for a brand new camshaft as quickly as one could get there. But I learned to always keep those possibilities in the back of my mind.
Thank you, Thank you! This information was also missing from my DYI engine builder kit. I had a cam go flat 15 min into the 20 min break in procedure. So disappointing I almost cried. I purchased the long block 383 stroker motor from a builder in Texas and followed his procedure exactly and it still wiped 4 lobes. I used the exact oil and zinc additive he recommended, but of course he insisted I had done something wrong. When I provided him all the receipts as proof he stopped taking my calls and blocked my phone. I should have known better as he was 6 weeks late in delivering the motor to start with. I was just looking for a simple motor swap and it turned into a very expensive nightmare.
Mr. Brand, you are really getting the video production quality higher with every episode. I have learned more from you and Chief this winter than all my years of wrenching. Thank you, Sir.
Wow, so much information, great job Gerald! You have really shown all of us some extra secrets to checking things out before final assembly
Ive been through a shop or 2 but i never seent the process of checkin hardness. Thanks for showin an ole boy! I guess that can be added while checkin clearances before final assembly. I put a big fat sharpie in my lathe and machine to lifter size to check my cam centers. Sharpie brand only cuz the fat cases got almost a quarter inch of meat you can cut down.
Gerald, great video! Super interesting! Love the tools you make to do your job👍👍👍
Fantastic video the detailed information is priceless thanks for sharing the knowledge.
Most engine builders will not show folks some of this info. Hats off to you sir. I have no choice but to subscribe to your channel. I believe it will become huge. Thanks
Good information as always keep the content coming sir we sure appreciate it and you
thank you jason
Good information Gerald.
Thanks for sharing. 👍
Take care, Ed.
I'd of never thought to do something like that, super interesting video.
Thank you 👍🏻
Great video Gerald, you presented information most of us have never even thought about, much less seen done. You are a wealth of knowledge!
Makes me wish I would have gotten into automotive machining instead of aerospace and mold equipment. Love the videos, keep ‘em coming!
As someone who's working in both... there's way more money to be made in aerospace than small automotive machining.
I'm glad your channel is thanks for sharing your years of knowledge with us.
Awesome video, Gerald with great content.
thank you dave
Another cool video. A helpful video could be one on setting rocker arms. One on degreeing a cam. Tuning a carb. Setting timing curves. Those are a few ideas off the top of my head that would be helpful to a lot of average Joes. Have a good day
Gerald has a wealth of information,, never thought of a new cam being bent
Fascinating to see how deep the hardening was on cam, way more than I thought or expected
I just switched to the tool steel cam and lifters. I ran the same Schuebeck lifters for 20 years. We will convert them to solids for use in a backup engine. Great video.
Mr Gerald ypu are an outstanding teacher.Thank you
Excellent, just excellent, thanks for all the effort videoing your procedures. Give Ruby a pat on the head for me. Thank you
Ruby says thanks
tool steel flat tappet lifters?? whoa ....ps...im looking thru my harbor freight catalog but i cant find the rockwell hardness tester, im guessing thats a special order item
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They are right there in aisle 3 at every Harbor Freight...look...right there. Made in China Wokwell Tessa. Yoll just sayin it wrong lol
Great specifics on tech I never knew existed.
That’s some awesome advice on lifters! Thank you for sharing 👍😀
Ruby is like a bigger less needy version of my dog. Adore her
If you're looking for a "quality" engine shop, this guy is one.
I’m in the process of building to different engines with flat tappet cams. Thank you for sharing this information to the diy guys.
thank you for watching Mike. If you have any video requests, please let me know
Your attention to detail is amazing..
Really enjoy your videos
Learning so much from these videos. Can’t wait on the next one👍
I think I'm gonna need to see a dyno video on Jackies motor. I'm gonna need to see some numbers on that deal. I gotta make sure I got enough to drive by her at the 500' mark. LOL. Your videos are very informative. The details you deliver are priceless information that people like me really appreciate. Keep it up, knowledge is power.
Very interesting and love how you don’t leave and stone unturned very very cool fixture you built
Another informative video from Gerald. Thanks again for your time and showing us that things may not be as they appear
I am really enjoying all these videos. Your doing a fantastic job explaining things for us to understand.
Machining brass lifter shims sounds very interesting! Also do you have a specific take on tolerances in lifter bores? And, could lifters be angled to ease radical pushrod angles when port pinches are ground off for higher flow numbers?
The Brass shims are to move the cam front to back i the block.
Reminds me of running the old cam doctor program at the VW place! Really enjoying the Channel!
Man I wish us import guys had guys like you/shops that would do videos on our kinda motors. Specifically for me lol 2jz motors 😅. Not saying we don't have good shops. Some of the best shops in the country are here in FL. But everyone is so unbelievable secretive about it. Especially in the race 1000 to 2000+hp import race engines . So little what you talk about would Correlate to my motor. But I love hearing about it. And if anything it's something to think about and ask questions down the road with dealing with a shop. Thanks for your videos and keep it up.
Your the real deal when it comes to a machine shop.
Thank you for the interesting tech video. Surprise to know many people understand this tech video.
I would like to understand this video like them !. Will keep on learning.👍
Holy cow...you've got machines that I never knew existed!!!
This man knows his business what knowledge and skill
That's a interesting about flat tappet lifters needing to rotate and needing to be offset on the lobe to do so. Thank you for sharing this with us! Can the lifters you check in the hardness tester be used in a engine?
Yes, I Check all lifter In used motor That come into the shop
I'd like to hear your thoughts on controlling thrust with a roller cam and if you prefer belt or chain drives.
Is there a advantage to running a belt drive
Depends on if it's a belt of chain drive. Chain drive cam button to cover. Belt drive has shim between the cam and gear
@@scottspeck8843 Belt Drive In drag racing If you shake the tire it will jump a tooth or two
First video I've watched without BigCheif and like it just the same! Thanks for going through some tech and showing some steps. Really can appreciate (just some of) the many details that can get overlooked and how you implement the checks. All the best 👍
Keep following your instinct on the content. You are nailing it!!
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I appreciate that
Thank you Mr. Brand I really look forward to the knowledge you are willing to share
Lots of information great video.
My dad has told me since i was a child don't lay cams and cranks down they bend easy. Like the Midwest street cars plug.
Awesome! A couple more tools that I can make for the shop! Thanks for sharing!
All I can say is wow! You are the man Gerald! You have everything in that shop...Great vid.
Liked it all. Wish I had a guy like you in New York.
Great video, enjoyed the cam straightening, Rockwell testing, and lifter rotation Thanks Brand racing
Thanks I have watch you channel
Thank you for sharing more of your great knowledge in this awesome video and including the cutie ❤Ruby❤. Really nice camshaft, checker and straightener.
WOW love this i never knew this very interesting. I bought a cam once and on the way home i opend the box and it was broke. Glad we werent far from the parts store, so i could see how one could be bent.
You are a wealth of knowledge Gerard ! Thank you for sharing ! I've already subscribed to your channel. I found you because of Big Chief.
thank you for watching
Thank you for posting this. The lifter locator is something many of us have never considered. Have you ever measured the crown on lifters with your height gauge? I have 4 brand new lifters from Melling that I have found questionable using a German made straight edge that is highly accurate along with a flashlight, not exact but if I see light, I feel I am good. Four did not pass the test after several tries. A Rockwell hardness tester for the average guy is not going to get much use. What about hardness files? There are files available from machinist supply companies that sell files for checking hardness. I forget the number of files in the kit all with a different pattern and they are used as any other file. Start on a file rated lower than the hardness anticipated and work up until a mark is left in the metal. That will be the hardness rating of the piece being tested. These are a bit less expensive than a dedicated machine e.g. a set from McMaster-Carr has a range from 40C to 65 C and costs $136.00, cheaper than a rebuild and a dedicated tester with a dial , over $1,000.00 and up. I have seen some companies that sell the files in different ranges but I forget if that is for the A, B and C scale or hardness range within C-scale. I will machine myself a lifter position tester, very cool idea. The engine I am building is probably going to be the last one I ever do and I am trying to do pro work for longevity and power using old school stuff along with modern honing techniques and piston rings.
Excellent video.
The files will work good. I use my surface plate & a digital indicator.
@@BrandRacingEngines Thanks, good to know.
Gerald and Ruby y'all rock! Love all of the info your putting out! Peace
That's why Damon's engine runs like it does. It's Mr Brands attention to detail that makes the difference!!!
Thanks
Thanks Mr Brand I really enjoyed this and being able to learn from you looking forward to the next
Had a bent cam set to me from Bullet Cams, was also oversized from factory specs and wouldn't fit in the block. Which lead to me to find out about it being bent. The box it was shipped in was perfectly fine. To their credit they took it back and fixed it
Informative videos and Ruby RULES as shop manager!
Really cool video Gerald. I am still amazed at what goes in to building a HP motor. Do you build Mopar HP engines and what do you prefer to build?
Have a 273 & 340 Mopar for road racing in the shop. All motor are fine
@@BrandRacingEngines That's awesome!!!
That was very interesting. I never thought about checking to see the taper on a cam. I always that a new cam would be straight and the lifters would ride correctly.
Thanks. What's the difference with lobes of flat tappet cam VS. Roller Cam? Shape, hardness or other
That’s a great idea on seeing and checking the lifter position on the cam the lifters rotate on assembly
WOW you are AMAZING and VERY SMART so cool watching your vids
I’ve measured them before too and worst I’ve seen is .010. They still go in though, just twist and gently push. Patience. Nice video!
Gerald is the man! Thanks for the videos
How do you bend a camshaft.... Some people can accomplish anything.... well I learned something new.... That's why I love this channel.
Thanks
We want to see more Ruby! ❤🎉
Ben loves your videos.
U're a artist. Great work.
Great info we need to know more about you snd how you got into machining engines
Nice one, thanks, keep them coming please! I love this channel!
Hey love the tech I have thought about the cam shafts being bent that was awesome how u used some really simple stuff to make the fix
Thanks
Great tip on marking lifter. I learned of you From big Chief.
Great information!!!
How much crown is needed on a typical hydraulic flat tappet lifter?
Hell I learn something everytime I watch your videos!
That’s a pretty good informative video sir! Keep them coming!
Here we go!
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Always good see garold brand he knows his stuff
👍🏻 Video. Learned some things on this one!
Is the hardness tool used for diagnostic of a failed part/ engine? I assume the indentions the machine leaves aren't ok for new/ parts to be reused?
Also, the bent new camshaft concept is concerning. I've never checked a new camshaft for that. 😬
Yes on failed parts. It 50 /50 on the cam being bent