Yep. The only frustrating thing for me is swapping artifacts, it's just impossible to keep track when you've already swapped too many characters' artifacts 😅 and now yiur Chevreuse has a dendro damage goblet 😂
I can say I wanted to be economically friendly by claiming rewards and also see progression. But I always wanted to have more varieties of teamcomps. Glad I kept that in mind. Meanwhile time to build my hutao and forget about that damned domain for arle
sometimes, I wish this was coop, it would give a reason for my friends to play genshin again. They're online pretty much every day, yet there is no compelling reason to play together anymore.
Honestly true and meaningful impactful gameplay would see them expand if not entirely overhaul co-op without their idea just being pvp. Lets hope there will be new aspects to look forward to and a better reason to play together and to make it fun
Yes, coop would be amazing. I'd love to help some of my lower-level and newer friends. They would feel better about being able to participate in the game, and I'd get to feel useful and helpful. As it is, my low level friends feel left out and I feel bored.
My favourite feature so far in this gamemode is the ability to talk to characters while resting in between rounds and they have different lines! I was shocked and happy to listen to old characters like Thoma talk. Plus, if I can clear all rewards with Dehya as the DMG dealer for the last round, I'm sure most can with enough ubderstanding of the boons and sufficient build.
I love that aspect of the mode. In Spiral abyss, everything from environment to music seems so hostile, and it is always stressful to get those stars. In this, you complete a round, come out and play with friends, refresh and go in again. Love that!
I might have over 25 characters but only like a couple awesome artifacts that I always swapped between characters lol...might cause me a problem in this mode
This mode forced me take my raiden off em build for the first time in ages because no hydro means no hyperbloom. I also feel like more energy recharge on characters in general is super useful because you are not going to have the perfect team comps or rotations. There were times I had xiangling with no bennett or beidou with no fischl.
I also had to get my raiden off em and tbh, I dont like her kit in a dps build, I have no idea how she works and I dont like electro when not used in dendro reactions, tbh, not being able to use dendro nor hydro in the gamemode is why I wont be playing it, I tryied and got softlock, its not fun at all...
protect the monolith is an absolute Venti win... if you get the chance to use support characters from your friends... PICK VENTI. he is a must in protect the monolith! not even kazuha can compete!
I was disappointed after I saw that video about Venti's downfall in yesterday. Powercreeps exist always makes everyone blaming weak characters with worst reasons about Power and Glory only.
@@VrtielA6300that video exist because they need to pump out content and of course, you wouldn't use characters that arent appropriate for the enemies, right? (e.g. using pyro chars vs pyro slimes/shields, or venti vs ruin/large enemies is just asking for trouble) It has always been like that, people just make a topic about it to create content, venti is fine as he is (I have all anemo except wanderer and xiao, and still uses venti on monolith/liftable mobs mostly)
Fr, i used kazuha and he did pretty good but I'm sure if i had venti I can keep kazuha for other rounds, although I have an ER sucrose so I guess that's good
Right??!! I didn't do too bad on my first attempt, but missed out on the bonus objective by 1 enemy. Retrying it with Venti, it wasn't even a challenge; cleared with barely any damage to the monolith at all.
Oh that's clever! I had just enough to get by for hard mode already, but I'll definitely have to share this tip with some of my friends who are newer players and don't have as many characters built yet.
@@greenvega Genshin is not about building characters, it's about building teams with limited resources. Why would I build my C0 Sara or Faruzan if they are unusable until C6? And if I don't have Wanderer, why would I ever bother to build Faruzan in the first place?
@@r.d.6290 your first sentence is already a contradiction. faruzan and wanderer are already default trial characters here and they dont have to be crazy well built to clear in the first place
advice to new players: do NOT fomo. i understand that the primos are great for you especially if you are a new player. but this game mode are for people who actually pull for a wide range of characters and already have a good roster. it's not as hard as the spiral abyss, but it is also VERY restrictive. i am now concerned because i do not have as much geo characters... i only have zhongli built, and yeah, it doesn't look too good if they decide to do a geo character-focused theater
I think that this is going to be HELL for players who are super selective with their pulls and for new players.. Purely because they don't have enough characters built, not because the gamemode is hard itself, because the actual skillcheck isn't really that hard.. I do love that it exists, but it feels a bit disappointing so far, but we're only at the first season so i have hope
A gacha game where you don't need multiple team comps? Lol. Of course new players will have issues, considering it's a end game mode. I wasn't able to clear Abyss 12 for months until I had more characters. If you're "selective" and actively chose not to pull, then it sounds like a personal issue. You're meant to pull multiple characters as a F2P and horizontally invest, not vertically. You could get away with it before since there wasn't much need for more than two decent team comps, but players who have multiple team comps complained that they couldn't make full use of their entire roster, so we got a game mode where you can--and people are complaining about not having enough characters now? What a joke.
i REALLY hate that you can’t even attempt the final acts without having 18 available characters that meet the criteria😭 i prefer to heavily invest in a few characters than invest a little in a bunch of characters but now i can’t get all the rewards unless i spend a bunch of resin on characters i don’t plan on even using 😢
I just invest heavily in a lot of my characters, not because of meta but just because I get bored using the same team constantly. My deyha and beidou helped me alot because I was messing around trying to build them for fun
I got to 7 but 8 is really hard. I can't choose my team and so many vigors are being wasted because you have to form a team of 4 where I can just do it with 2 in some case
Yup. That is why I don't care and you should too. In worse case scenario you will just loose some primos. Maybe 200, maybe 300... It's 2 wishes. I don't care. If that would be a 10-pulls then maybe. For 2 wishes? Be forced to build characters I don't like? Nah, I'm good.
A small tip I can give for the new game mode is to not forget that you have the Traveler. He can change his element to anemo/electro for the current iteration of the Theater and can be used as a filler for the future elemental cast requirements too.
I've been playing the game since launch and have had sooooo much time to get my characters up, and have done so. This event is perfect for me maybe its time to redownload the game
@BRSxIgnition if you're fairly new then nobody expects to get into the new mode immediately and there's literally an easy mode that requires fewer characters, it's endgame so it's not going anywhere take your time with that, you aren't exactly pressured to finish it as a season is like 1 month, so no rush at all. If you're a long time player then that's on you lol
TIP: For those wondering how to go around and prepare for Imaginarium Theater, I encourage you guys to build more supports and sub-dps (I.e., yelan, xingqiu, sucrose, etc.) They don't have to be strong but usable enough with level 8 talents or something. Your DPS will be sharing supports with other DPS so its easy to maintain which DPS/Drivers you want to use, but the supports and Sub-dps will be annoying because you will need to match the allowed element for this season and also synergize well enough with your given units available. For your runs itself, always prioritize getting Companion rewards or events, more units to play with = easier time. Whatever your points leftover get some buffs.
@@dudeinadoughboy4327 Just level up your supports. Not that hard :D U can use Clorinde, arlecchino, fischl, raiden, benett, Xiangling, Sara, Hu Tao with C0 Chevreuse i used Wanderer with C6 Faruzan, a 800em kazuha, and rest are just for to let the game start on hard mode.
imagine if this one has the charecter mapping function like the hsr divergent universe where all the underleveled charecters are leveled up to a certain point with moderate builds.
I mean you do have that tho, with the trial characters. And the other characters you pick can all come from Ur friends. So basically start making friends in genshin 😂
Funny enough, out of those three, dendro would probably have the hardest time when being played alone. Geo can brute force its way out, and with anemo you could swirl multiple elemental shields to amp your damage. But dendro does pretty much nothing without its secondy reactions unless they do something special like an arena that implicts the hydro state on the enemies
also another tip, focus on bringing more Sub DPS and supports rather than main carries, a "proper" team usually consists of 3 supports and 1 DPS anyways so you'll always end up spending 3 vigors on supports as opposed to the 1 vigor on DPS, the last thing u want is to be stuck on the final boss with 4 DPS all of which wants field time
I tried that and I ended up with teams with NO dps and all supports which didn't really work well (especially since we are restricted by elements. I could 100% make a hard hitting hyperbloom team with all healers, but dendro and hydro are not an option this season.) I'd recommend having a nice balance of both since, unless you are lucky with your cards you get 2 battles out of each unit max.
i had 17/18 characters that fit the element leveled, so i had to quickly spend fragiles to level one more. im so screwed for any future cycles that need geo… *laughs in 1 geo character built*
honestly most players doesn't, Im ar 59 and didn't have any geo 5* or any geo character leveled till I got chiori which I really didn't want to get anyways
If there’s one thing I really learned about this mode is that I need to build more utility characters that J haven’t built yet like Beidou, Chevreuse, Sucrose, etc.
12:28 this is awesome, I lowered my expectations for artifact grinding, resulting in me having more built characters that are good enough, so I'm well prepared It seems the goal is to encourage people to pull for more characters instead of constellations
As a level 60 player I have almost no Geo character(I only have Nigguang ,Noelle , and Yunjin) . I have 50 characters build but I just realized that I need to show some love to Geo which sucks cause I don't really like geo as a element . I will definitely build Nigguang and my Noelle needs some other artifact than the hunter set . which set will be good for her? It is time to check Sevy's Noelle build guide .
as AR 60, igot a ton of characters built as well, but i dont have any cryo above 80, and in dendro the only built i got is Nahida, and in Geo, it's only Noelle, yunjin, zhongli, We'll pretty much need to get to work if we gotta keep up with those seasons-
Is it glad with the def time piece ? I have enough of the double crit piece on glad . Surely I will have enough to give her a full set.Thanks ..! I am not putting my resin into the husk set as I need to build some more cryo .( I have ganyu , kaeya, eula , rosaria , diona , Layla ,qiqi, Frrminet leveled up. But imma gonna level up chongyun and Charlotte as I have enough talent mats for those 2)
I have decided not to put so much on geo but I will definitely get Navia cause I lost 5050 before . I will double down on building other elements so that I can just skip Geo. The husk domain was a nightmare. It took me 2 months just to get workable piece for Yunjin .
I think the difficulty feels surprisingly well balanced for the purpose. It's nowhere near as crazy with the blessings as Sim Uni is, it's mostly minor buffs really, the focus is much more on team selection and resource management by choosing which characters to use when and what to save for later. The fights themselves are quite varied in terms of objectives and enemies so different chars get their own chances to shine, even if they might not normally in Abyss. I got the most kills with Venti in my first hard mode clear, feels like I haven't seen that in the past 3 years of Abyss. Definitely feels like a great addition to the game, it's relatively simple all things considered but it puts the emphasis so much more on horizontal account building as well as player game knowledge in regards to team drafting. Almost the polar opposite of Abyss in that regard. I do think it's missing some sort of codex to keep track of all the information better though, HSR does a better job at that
i will say though, i would still really like a gamemode like sim uni that gives a bunch of crazy buffs and makes you do like 100x more damage lol. i just think that’s fun
Doing Imaginarium theatre for the first time was pretty fun and somewhat challenging! I didnt know you dont have to get the stars so i suffered a little bit to get them with Trial Wanderer... I'm so glad i randomly got 1 Chevreuse from Standard. But also i'm far enough in the game that i levelled every character i have to 70/80 so i could get all acquaint fates, so- But its gonna be tough for me if some day the element restriction would be geo.
this has to be the weirdest end game mode I've played. all the unnecessary restrictions and rng made it impossible to enjoy. funny how they preach about player's anxiety then made FOMO: the end game. very disappointing, especially after playing DU
People want a harder endgame mode and they give a more tedious one instead. If you are forced to build character that you didnt like, my take is just skip it.
They should've done what they did in HSR Divergent universe by providing equipment/traces/levels to any character you own so you can use them. That would be fine. Making us invest resources into pretty much Every character (because seasons will change which elements are required) to do the "hard" mode is an intentional waste of time and resources to make players grind even more. That's not fun.
I'm so glad I basically built all of my characters, save a couple, with their best possible weapon and the best possible artefacts i have at hand. I was just building them because i got bored trying to vertically invest in the same character. Glad to see this payed off.
I had high expectations of this gamemode, which were not met at all (gameplay-wise). Hoyo really takes every measure to keep their gameplay as tame as possible and stop players from having fun... The elemental restriction is a nice concept and I was looking forward to play new team comps, but while I have tons of characters built, only having a small selection to choose from at once and not being able to run less than 4 characters really ruined the fun for me. We should at least be able to build functioning teams every fight. At the same time, the boons were really negligible... Rogue like elements should always slap hard to spice up the gameplay imo, which wasn't the case here at all. Next time I will completely ignore those and just unlock as many characters as possible.
I dont think having the ability to build functional teams off the bat is a smart move. Really, the difficulty of the combat simply revolves around how well rounded your team is in the roles it consists of. The mode is stupidly easy if you have an established team or a team that has complete synergy. The weaker the synergies, the harder it is. The greater the synergies, the easier it is. Rather, I think the companion selection events should give us option between 3 characters rather than 2.
@@flamezforthegamez1056 Yeah, the combat should definitely be made harder in that case. And I agree that choosing from 3 characters would be one possibe improvement. I would also like to suggest something like working with character roles, so that characters can be distributed in a more organized way, like we select a role we need and then get a random character from that role. Anyway, imo being able to build a functional team should be a requirement, because it's the foundation for fun gameplay, and everything else should be balanced accordingly.
I got the impression that "building functional teams" is on the player. You choose whom to pick as your cast before you start, then you choose who to use and when with the team functionality in mind. The opening cast are all workable with each other, so then it's just a matter of unlocking more companions and "whom do I save for the boss fight and how do I make the rest work". (Disclaimer: I'm the person who actively enjoys fighting bosses with friendship teams and finding ways to make them work regardless of synergy, so I'm biased here)
@@whistlegirl5726 I made my initial comment atfer playing the gamemode just once and have now replayed it. This time I ignored boons and just got companions, making teambuilding less of an issue. However, Genshin combat requires pretty much no skill at all while teambuilding is the only part that has depth, so restricting that part of it at all is just cursed imo. I'd rather like to see something like an infinite abyss where every character can only be used once and then try to get as far as possible.
I swear some players called themself oldbie yet they complain about not having enough characters. Like what have you been doing all these times, yall really complain about dont have anything to do in game and now complain about have to grind in game.
I dread the day when Geo is an element requirement. I don't own Itto, Chiori and Navia so I didn't even raise my Gorou. I only have support 5 stars like Zhongli and Albedo and 4 star DPS like Ningguang and Noelle. And my friends aren't even active 😅
This game mode has a bit of difficulty- which is fine. Those people saying it’s not hard. Yes, to YOU- which is fine too. It’s got a bit for everyone but I’m just glad we can get the rewards easily.
@@Bullminator not only for enw players, for anyone with less then 2 years this is going to be pretty hard, not everyone has all characters built, and you can only pick 8 trial ones, each can be used 2 times, this is a game mode for wales...
@@ricardorocha6622 its not that hard to get the rewards tho, with the trail characters (8 characters all used twice makes for 8 completed rounds) then you can get some from friends and some you have yourself. You dont need that many characters build. I did complete it with only having 4 characters build decently ( i can only clear up to floor 11 in spiral abyss with them)
@@fernandojoseraquel9150I like the og abyss better and now the rewards I could get from it decreased significantly, so as an f2p there is no ignoring option
@@shinobu1886 no I can get the rewards but it is very time consuming and not straight to the point, plus I can’t use the characters I put so much effort building so what’s the point
I am extremly pissed by the fact that abyss resets every 30 days from now on. part of this lies in the rewards but mostly i am tilted because i love abyss and dont want to be restricted in that area. bring both modes and reset them every 15 days, hoyoverse wont go broke by giving some more primos to the public. from what i know most people dont even do abyss or at least are not doing it on a regular basis
The main takeaway ive seen is the shocking amount of people that flatly don't invest in their characters. How is everyone this strapped for units??? Like, new accounts sure but for people who have been playing for ages?
@kyuzairen5383 Thing is I'm a lazy bastard, like I haven't even touched Chenyun Vale at all, and yet even i have an easy 4-5 units of every element ready to go.
It's feasible to finish it even on mid build characters you just need to know when and what character to use on each act The only annoying part is the freaking protect the monolith where you need to beat all enemies in a given amount of time but when you defeat an enemy you will lose time 🤣
You don't need to kill all the enemies. You just need the time to run out with the monolith above the required percentage. That's why killing the enemies draws the stage to a close faster.
Personally I'm a bit concerned about this mode. I have felt choked on characters for a long time as a F2P player. After about a year of play, even if there were no elemental restrictions I cannot field 18 characters. I don't have enough weapons for even the low constellation 4 stars if I had them leveled. Never mind the amount of artifact investment C0 4 stars need to even begin functioning... Divergent Universe in Star Rail is similar with one big exception; if you own a character but they're under invested they auto sync up to trial levels. Was really hoping they'd do something like that here.
My thoughts exactly. If they were going to lock you out based off of how many characters you have built, they really should give more resources to ACTUALLY level the necessary elemental characters. I'm unable to get into normal because I have 12/14. Now, I have to grind out leylines (both exp and mora) AND boss material to lvl up more people. I simply don't have the resin to do that in a timely manner. I'm sure I can reach the 14 characters necessary (even if they are going to be hella weak), but I definitely can't reach the 18 necessary characters that are needed for the hard mode. We have a month, but the resin given is not enough.
Here's what I've noticed so far playing HSR + genshin. Half of the HSR endgame modes, aren't even really endgame. Like they're so godamn easy The more accurate term for them is something like just free wishes, BC it's not really a challenge it's legit just free currency Endgame is for players who have put alot of time and effort into game, it is quite literally for late game players. There is also an easy mode with 10 charas requirements, and if you do abyss that means you have at least 8 ppl built. What ppl need to realise is that if it's hard for you, it doesn't necessarily means it's a bad thing. Just do the easy level and invest until U can actually do the hard mode.
@had-sd4hs the thing is, it's "hard" in a bad way. It's not "hard" because it requires skill to beat. It's "hard" because we simply don't have the resources to build the characters necessary. And it's not like we can grind and level them and their weapons up, because the resin simply isn't there.
@@villa_art I don't agree with that??? It comes down to how you chose to spend ur resin, BC there is def enough resin even before the increase. And I can prove it as well. ☠️ I have almost all the four stars in the game, and I spent roughly two months leveling all of them up to 70 last year. And I spent the last two months leveling all my characters talents up to 2-6-8s so I am living proof we have enough resin 😂 I did this all in exams months BC artifact farming required too much brain presence 😅 The end of it is this, abyss tends to reward min-maxing more. So if you go and spend all ur resin perfecting Ur Hu Tao, U will get primos. Theatre rewards variety. So if you spend ur primos leveling ur characters instead, U will get primos. I don't think that's bad, BC if a person who has played even for a single year they can at least do easy mode. Just like abyss, you will need to build up Ur account to be able to clear theatre that is all. What I am mostly seeing is that ppl are upset BC they can't clear. But it's fine BC just BC U can't clear today doesn't mean you won't be able to clear in a month. Now that everyone knows that U need to invest more horizontally, simply spend a month doing that and hopefully U will be able to do next season of theatre. But I think it's unfair to say it is a bad end game just BC it does not favour the way you have spent ur resources in game.
@had-sd4hs so it took you 1/3 of a year to barely build your characters to the requirements? NOT even getting artifacts for them? Nigga..... you really showed me 😂😂😂 HEY EVERYONE, IT'LL ONLY TAKE YOU OVER 4 MONTHS TO BUILD DECENT CHARACTERS AND DECENT BUILDS TO PLAY THEIR NEW MODE YIPPEEEEE. Why is it so hard for people to admit that they are a tad bit too stingy with their stamina system? The higher resin cap does nothing either. You still only get 180 per 24 hours so the resources you acquire are the same
I wish they specified more about the toy medal shop. Do the medals carry over to next reset? Will we ever be able to buy those poses again or if you dont pick now they're gone forever?! Who knows! It makes me anxious
From what I understand, the shop's stock is additive and coins should carry over. I'd ask through the feedback page if you want a definitive answer, though.
A read through the comments shows people will complain no matter what. Even when given exactly what they want. Lucky these are just a loud minority. Who always want to cry, and hate on genshin. All while pretending wuwa is perfect and amazing, while ignoring the massive problems that game has. All so they can hate on genshin. It is sad. I love both games. And both have problems. Though from a purely objective stand point, wuwa has much worse issues, including one's that will kill the game. I hope it doesn't come to that. But if they don't fix it, next year none of us will be talking about wuwa, while genshin still keeps improving.
precisely. i feel like most of the people who are complaining don't entirely know how to play the damn thing. they're acting like you need to invest months into a character to make them viable for imaginarium which couldn't be further from the truth.
So, it take times to think of which choices to choose in each stages. I literally cleared Hard Mode with 8 Challenge Stellas. Playing on my phone too. *Sigh...* Electro haters in these days... Always of these supreme elements and characters like; Hydro - Neuvillette Pyro - Arlecchino Cryo - idk... It would think as Wriothsley right now. I hate them so bad by their factions. They're still my previous enemies. For they want these 3 to be End All Be All in this game while they're completely thrashing Electro all about damages only. It just... I just want only one single Electro character can be powerful as everyone and all elements.
@VrtielA6300 yep, it just takes planning and flexibility. So many people claiming this kills the team building aspect of the game, when it is the opposite. This makes you use teams other then the standard meta. It forces you to consider how to make characters work together. Those people just suck at team building and can only use the teams they are told to. As for electro, we do have Raiden and clorinde. Both of while can easily match anyone other then neuvillette, though in team damage they can come close. Just his raw numbers can't be touched.
This end-game feels like a very cheap and low effort version of HSR's simulated universe, which by the way got upgraded like 3 times already with more content every time than there is in this one. Almost feels like as if HSR had 3 years to develop its end-game instead of genshin lol. Also the constrains and restrictions feels frustrating to me instead of fun, maybe thats just me tho. Strong 2/10 from me. One point for the free (kinda not really, after around a thousand hours of gametime i still cant do the the hard one as of now) primogems, one point for it being easy and fast to finish. Kind of the same points I can give to the small fighting events between the bigger better crafted ones.
Leveling up a bunch of characters I wasn't planning on using is cool, I like the idea and have a stockpile of resin to do it.. the hard part to me is actually getting enough halfway decent, leveled up artifacts. I started the game last year and just don't have a ton of spare artifacts and exp. Would have been a perfect time for them to have introduced actual loadout saves >.
also I'm lowkey waiting for a season of IT where the 3 elements present just simply doesn't work, something like cryo dendro geo where the only thing u can do is crystalize and pray
Its completely different than spiral abyss, and thats what i like about it... but it does need reasons to do more than a single run given you can finish it quick and it doesnt refresh for 30 days
I cant believe i played 4 years to get a lame end game, i finished in the hardest difficult and my reaction was "Already ? wtf" And the cherry on top is this crap replacing the 2nd half of the abyss instead of bringing a new source of primos, amazing hoyo 🗿
I was hoping for this to be at least somewhat as good as simulated universe from star rail but the arbitrary element and character restriction makes it feel like they took 1 step forward 3 steps back
true, they should fixate on some reaction like the event we just finished and not completely stop people from using other elements. Give a buff for the focused elemental reaction but let us play whoever we want. Not to mention you cant for example only use neuvillette to destroy it since you can only play 2 instance per characters
@@brussailpook8213 arbitrarily restricting elements which means characters just straight up like this is just a bad idea for a gacha why did I roll for these characters if I can’t use them like star rail doesn’t do this even tho it’d actually be less bad there but genshin does when the core combat relies even more on element and character synergy
I'm hating this endgame already. i don't have any characters that level 70, just the strong one or the must useful one their builds pain in my soul🙂 why didn't they do like star rail did build our characters 😮💨
The dumbest part is that the mode rewards you for NOT pulling the latest characters because you get them for free and relatively built and instead having spent your resources on other units. Absolutely mental once again.
No you don't? I don't have Wrio and Sigewinne and I couldn't choose them as special guests. And the Thoma build was almost unusable, had to find some pieces for my Thoma 😂
I was able to clear this with my less invested account BUT the Strat is really thinking ahead and reserving your best teams for the boss floors. I had to rewind once on that account because I wasn't thinking and used the wrong team on the prior floor. I was also using characters like Xinyan so It's doable on accounts that meet minimum requirements and have invested a little in their units.
if this garbo is their idea of end game then I have no hope for this game's future. the obvious FOMO and whale bait, it's honestly absurd to think this was the same company that had SU/DU. can't believe I'm saying this but genshin design team really need to learn from HSR cuz this ain't it
The thing im salty about is the fact that I only have 17 characters that meet the requirements for hard, with the 1 character from a friend, I’ll have 18 BUT IT INSISTS I HAVE 18 MYSELF LIKE COME ON
people saying its p2w baffle me. you don't need to pay to complete it, i just completed it with almost all c0 4*s alongside the trial 5*s. it's not even asking for crazy builds or team comps, you just need to learn how to prioritize your characters. if you're struggling, limit yourself to one 5* per room. it's endgame content. it's there forever. it's not mandatory. dont just sit there farming 50cv artifacts for one character and you'll be fine. you dont need crazy top 1% builds to beat this. not everyone needs to be built either, half of my team was actually just filler for elemental reactions lol.
I remember trying it out and then rapidly getting softlocked as I have nothing on my account made for it I dont have any pyro characters and maybe like 2 anemo units and all my electro units are made for dendro, I have everything dendro and I NEVER make any teams without dendro or hydro in them, my most powerful characters are hydro and dendro, this game mode curently is just unbeatable for me and not fun at all... also I tend to throw characters build to the trash to remplace them by better ones so this game mode is just not doable for my account... I been using the same hyperbloom team for a year and a half in every single abys and I refuse to stop being able to use that for everything...
god with this new endgame content hoyo really really should upgrade the artifacts system like is terrible rn how can u spend 1000 resins on it and it give none NONE good artifact, so how are you be able to build the other characters with that damn old system that keep giving you DEF stats all the time, specially if we are not switching the artifacts with the others, this is just really annoying
I just finished getting to Act 8 with 8 stars on hard mode and overall it was kinda fun but also annoying at first as I wasn’t used to it. I’m gonna start building more characters now( even though I don’t really want to use some of them)
Wait we're finally getting a new end game and it's permanent........... I am so proud of this team. I mean yeah it took them 3 years to finally give us a new type of end game but I'm not complaining if this means that we're finally getting some new end game content. Can't wait to try this out!
@@BRSxIgnition That's because the team really loves Honkai to the point of Star Rail getting a lot of end game content while Genshin JUST got its second one. I'm just happy that we finally got another thing for end game even if like you said star rail has way more end game.
I have increased the world level from 60 because I am end game, since I have played since launch of Genshin. However, it’s made the Theatre, Abyss and Natlan difficulty spike very noticeably hard despite having heavily invested and spent hours grinding character levels. I am mostly free to play but pay for battle pass and Welking moon to support the game and do all events for wishes. I have 60 characters and most are level 70 to 80 (only Diluc level 90 because i don’t think it’s worth levelling to 90 for all) I have maybe 20 characters level 40 to 60 such as Barbara, Faruzan, Collei, Heizou, Amber, Lisa, Lynette, Dori etc, because I am not keen on them compared to my other characters . I have full constellations on quite a few characters and all full talents. Weapons I do level to level 90 and try to get refinements to level 5 if possible. Nearly all characters I have are friendship level 10. I am a solo player so don’t play with friends so can’t borrow unfortunately for this so if you want to coop or connect Europe server, leave your ID to connect. Thanks for the video! I didn’t understand how this game mechanics worked but now understand what I was doing wrong and why I was frustrated. 😅
I feel like people who complain about this mode wanted it to be another Spiral Abyss so they could once again flex their c6 r5 Raiden they had spent the last 2 years building or smth. But I hate Abyss, I am BORED of using and grinding for the same charas over and over again because the only endgame goal this game provides you with is to Kill Faster. But now non-abyss people like me who prefer building many just for fun of it instead of minmaxing can thrive too and I enjoy it thoroughly.
@@trlwaifulover7593 your opinion is dogshit. Wah I need characters built. Wow it almost like that the nature of endgame in gacha. Ever try a pvp gacha. Same thing with needing the newest unit that broken if you want top rank for more gems.
I absolutely hate everything about this mode apart from the primos it give. Why are they forcing players to built certain characters & require a certain number of high level characters just to be eligible to participate???? This is complete BS They are essentially locking out a good chunk of players from participating in this mode. That's scummy if you ask me
This thing just started and I’m already over it. The rules are so ridiculously overly complicated and hard to understand. I don’t foresee myself getting into this. To me the primo gems aren’t worth the frustration. The current “cast” has all characters I either don’t have or I have but don’t play and don’t know how to use.
I really hate this mode. I cannot time the final level after a few complete reruns through the event. Maybe I am just too dumb to understand the vigor and other systems, but I have too weak of characters to finish it. For reference I have been playing since launch and have decently built 18 characters, so I am just lost and give up out of frustration.
If you’re a F2P player who chose to invest everything into C6 one character you only have yourself to blame. Don’t get me wrong, do whatever you want if you love a character enough for for it, but you should have known the disadvantage you put yourself in. Besides, all the elements will cycle so it’s not like you won’t be able to use them
I’d say any game mode that tells people to shut up and stop using the same character (Raiden, Neuvillette, Nahida, Furina, Yelan, Kazuha, etc) over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over is a MASSIVE WIN.
I wish the build switching only applied to imaginarium theater so that I could swap around builds without having to worry about switching them back later
The main prblm is to even get 18 chars from 3 elements to lv 70...like I neither have the resin nor the mora to do so... Idk why no one is highlighting this factor and also can't just leave them to lv 70...u have to give them weapons and artifacts and talent up them and just think how much resources it will cost... The cost of completing the theatre is way more than the rewards... Guess genshin just scammed us again
You have 30 days, so just instead of doing artifact domains to get 2.5% more crit rate once a week... build some 4 stars you don't normally use, give them artifacts and weapons from other characters, level their talents, etc. Xiangling, Bennett, Kuki, and Fischl are meta. Beidou, Sucrose, Thoma, Chevreuse, and Sara are useful supports. They only need to be usable, nothing crazy. Plus the **six** trial characters. You likely have two or three Pyro/Electro/Anemo 5 stars, and you can borrow one character from a friend. That's a quick way to get the minimum And if you can't do any of that, it's fine; it's only a few hundred primos for the hardest difficulty, like abyss 12
isnt need too much resources to lv 70, you need only do the ascension 4 times (60-70 and just max lv 70), probably (witout count in mora and exp books because you always have a lot of them, unless you are new player = then you have a lot of resources to get and spend, instead of focus 1 character to lv 90, you can lv up 6 to lv 70), 1 day of resin (only for boss material) you already lv up 1-2 character to lv 70 if you are AR 55. Since to lv 90 (only for boss material) you need 46, 12 epic and 6 legendary (18 epic) ---> 30 epic shards of the character element (more hard to get than boss material since if you level a lot fo character to lv 90, you will soon run out of this and start farming boss for only this shards. To lv 70 you only need 14 and 6 epic (in total) shards of the character element
@@LuneWatcher I can lv up the chars in 30 days but yeah it will take 30 days lol... Like I can't instantly get the primos😅... And i already have fully built c6 bennet and sucrose
I am struggling with this new game mode because my resources are limited, as I only started a few months ago. What I can say to fellow somewhat new players is that this game mode is hard, especially since we don't have good artifacts yet.
As vertical investor : I Must Say, I Am Screwed guys, for me it's so hard with my level 20 (4 stars characters ). doing 36 stars is child play for me in spiral abyss, but now i have to built all my characters and artifacts too.... i am F2P , i am not P2W either i manage to get at 6 stage now let see what happen within 30 days.
Really enjoyed Theater finally no more double chore spiral a month. Theater is much more fun and much more variety. Character requirements is a plus with my 4 years worth of characters doing nothing in spiral.
It's definitely more fun than the abyss, i do wish it had more replayability though. It has lot of fun mechanics, like inviting your friends characters and getting to use trial characters, and i enjoy having to use wacky teams that i wouldn't usually. It certainly is the more chill end-game mode, catered towards the people that like pulling for new characters as opposed to vertical investment.
This is such a bad update that makes abyss look fun, nothing about this is fun, I don't want to play with just main dps or support character in the games. There was no thought into this at all.
"you need a lot of characters"
people who build everyone just to goof around with wacky team comps: TIME TO SHINE
Yep. The only frustrating thing for me is swapping artifacts, it's just impossible to keep track when you've already swapped too many characters' artifacts 😅 and now yiur Chevreuse has a dendro damage goblet 😂
"you need a lot of characters"
people with *insert weapon*/*insert element* only accounts: fck my life
LMAO
@@atriyakoller136i have most characters equipped with decent artifacts thanks to my 2 year grind for raiden's ultimate emblem set lol
I can say I wanted to be economically friendly by claiming rewards and also see progression. But I always wanted to have more varieties of teamcomps. Glad I kept that in mind. Meanwhile time to build my hutao and forget about that damned domain for arle
sometimes, I wish this was coop, it would give a reason for my friends to play genshin again. They're online pretty much every day, yet there is no compelling reason to play together anymore.
Honestly true and meaningful impactful gameplay would see them expand if not entirely overhaul co-op without their idea just being pvp. Lets hope there will be new aspects to look forward to and a better reason to play together and to make it fun
Yes, coop would be amazing. I'd love to help some of my lower-level and newer friends. They would feel better about being able to participate in the game, and I'd get to feel useful and helpful. As it is, my low level friends feel left out and I feel bored.
Unfortunately the closest to coop in this is players borrowing your characters.
Man, shout out to *Trial Characters.* Gotta be one of my favorite genders
What do u mean?
Classic 😂
I didn't get it
@@Grass_rock-kb7gi wdym you don't get it? If you ty hard enough, you'll catch it.
I don’t get it 😂
Never i thought id see new endgame and genshin in the same sentence
Well, I only expect to see "No" "Endgame" and "Genshin" on the same sentence
@@otakugamer6933 i edited it lol i shoumd have precised
@@Delkaguit's fine, I understand the joke lol
Only took 4 years too lmao
Here we finally are boys lol
My favourite feature so far in this gamemode is the ability to talk to characters while resting in between rounds and they have different lines! I was shocked and happy to listen to old characters like Thoma talk. Plus, if I can clear all rewards with Dehya as the DMG dealer for the last round, I'm sure most can with enough ubderstanding of the boons and sufficient build.
I love that aspect of the mode. In Spiral abyss, everything from environment to music seems so hostile, and it is always stressful to get those stars.
In this, you complete a round, come out and play with friends, refresh and go in again. Love that!
WANDERER HAHA XD @_gqt
Was doing it and considered that the voiced lines might be why Aloy is unselectable in the mode
Lol this reminds me I wanted dehya even tho I knew how mediocre she is...lost a 50/50 and got her but completely forgot...till now
I might have over 25 characters but only like a couple awesome artifacts that I always swapped between characters lol...might cause me a problem in this mode
This mode forced me take my raiden off em build for the first time in ages because no hydro means no hyperbloom. I also feel like more energy recharge on characters in general is super useful because you are not going to have the perfect team comps or rotations. There were times I had xiangling with no bennett or beidou with no fischl.
I use my em raiden in overload teams, it's also good. Even works in abyss.
I also had to get my raiden off em and tbh, I dont like her kit in a dps build, I have no idea how she works and I dont like electro when not used in dendro reactions, tbh, not being able to use dendro nor hydro in the gamemode is why I wont be playing it, I tryied and got softlock, its not fun at all...
protect the monolith is an absolute Venti win... if you get the chance to use support characters from your friends... PICK VENTI. he is a must in protect the monolith! not even kazuha can compete!
Yes Venti and Sucrose helped me alot with those annoying waves of group of enemies 😅😅😅
I was disappointed after I saw that video about Venti's downfall in yesterday. Powercreeps exist always makes everyone blaming weak characters with worst reasons about Power and Glory only.
@@VrtielA6300that video exist because they need to pump out content and of course, you wouldn't use characters that arent appropriate for the enemies, right? (e.g. using pyro chars vs pyro slimes/shields, or venti vs ruin/large enemies is just asking for trouble)
It has always been like that, people just make a topic about it to create content, venti is fine as he is (I have all anemo except wanderer and xiao, and still uses venti on monolith/liftable mobs mostly)
Fr, i used kazuha and he did pretty good but I'm sure if i had venti I can keep kazuha for other rounds, although I have an ER sucrose so I guess that's good
Right??!! I didn't do too bad on my first attempt, but missed out on the bonus objective by 1 enemy.
Retrying it with Venti, it wasn't even a challenge; cleared with barely any damage to the monolith at all.
If you're like me and one character short for the next mode, don't forget to check if you can change your traveler to be anemo/electro!
Found this out after lightning raising my Lynette to level 70 😭 Although I have her C6 and was planning to build her at some point anyway..
that's what i did, and i didnt have to use traveller because i used a friend's assist character.
Oh that's clever! I had just enough to get by for hard mode already, but I'll definitely have to share this tip with some of my friends who are newer players and don't have as many characters built yet.
If I exit a performance,,, it's end therer??? I cannot restart from the start?
THAT'S FACTSS
They said about players "anxiety" and now reading through people reactions, I can see that
Most ppl who complain don't like to build chars or new to game, and don't understand what is end game stand for
Surely it's not because they themselves decided to put artificial barriers everywhere
Clueless
Yeah, when they put all these character restrictions yeah it’s gonna be a lot of anxiety
@@greenvega Genshin is not about building characters, it's about building teams with limited resources. Why would I build my C0 Sara or Faruzan if they are unusable until C6? And if I don't have Wanderer, why would I ever bother to build Faruzan in the first place?
@@r.d.6290 your first sentence is already a contradiction. faruzan and wanderer are already default trial characters here and they dont have to be crazy well built to clear in the first place
advice to new players: do NOT fomo. i understand that the primos are great for you especially if you are a new player. but this game mode are for people who actually pull for a wide range of characters and already have a good roster. it's not as hard as the spiral abyss, but it is also VERY restrictive. i am now concerned because i do not have as much geo characters... i only have zhongli built, and yeah, it doesn't look too good if they decide to do a geo character-focused theater
Same it was easy with many pyro , electro anemo dps. How about Geo and Cryo theater?? Im cooked 🤣🤣 i only have Zhongli too
yeah when it have geo we're cooken I only have chiori 😂
OH NO GEO... time to build noelle ig....
@@shiinaaaaaaa dw there's trial characters :)
You won't regret building Noelle, I promise.
I think that this is going to be HELL for players who are super selective with their pulls and for new players..
Purely because they don't have enough characters built, not because the gamemode is hard itself, because the actual skillcheck isn't really that hard..
I do love that it exists, but it feels a bit disappointing so far, but we're only at the first season so i have hope
i'm kinda selective but completed it anyway
A gacha game where you don't need multiple team comps? Lol. Of course new players will have issues, considering it's a end game mode. I wasn't able to clear Abyss 12 for months until I had more characters.
If you're "selective" and actively chose not to pull, then it sounds like a personal issue. You're meant to pull multiple characters as a F2P and horizontally invest, not vertically. You could get away with it before since there wasn't much need for more than two decent team comps, but players who have multiple team comps complained that they couldn't make full use of their entire roster, so we got a game mode where you can--and people are complaining about not having enough characters now? What a joke.
@@pistolero995RNG gods were merciful then😂
That's the case for me I mainly play 2 teams and work around them, I managed to clear the new content but it was so hardddd
even if your selective you'd probably still have a decent amount 4-stars, it really just punishes you for not building a bunch of characters.
i REALLY hate that you can’t even attempt the final acts without having 18 available characters that meet the criteria😭 i prefer to heavily invest in a few characters than invest a little in a bunch of characters but now i can’t get all the rewards unless i spend a bunch of resin on characters i don’t plan on even using 😢
I just invest heavily in a lot of my characters, not because of meta but just because I get bored using the same team constantly. My deyha and beidou helped me alot because I was messing around trying to build them for fun
same
well this is an endgame so you still have to work on your account
@@sierrablue2206 Same. Out of boredom, I built ALL my characters. So Imaginarium theater is not a big problem for me
add random people, and use they characters, use trial characters too = easy day.
The achievement that requires you to have 8 mysterious cache is so fckin dumb hard to get, my best run was 6 mysterious cache
ITS SOOOOO ANNOYINNGGGGGGG!!! How tf am I supposed to do it ._____.
It's an achievement, I don't think you're supposed to get that one on your first couple runs.
Yeah, i was thinking that too, but i'm not gonna focus on getting it because it's impossible to complete that achievement set right now anyway.
I got to 7 but 8 is really hard. I can't choose my team and so many vigors are being wasted because you have to form a team of 4 where I can just do it with 2 in some case
Not worth the effort
This mode is hot garbage. Forcing you to waste resin on characters you don't like. Trash
Yup. That is why I don't care and you should too. In worse case scenario you will just loose some primos. Maybe 200, maybe 300... It's 2 wishes. I don't care. If that would be a 10-pulls then maybe. For 2 wishes? Be forced to build characters I don't like? Nah, I'm good.
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A small tip I can give for the new game mode is to not forget that you have the Traveler. He can change his element to anemo/electro for the current iteration of the Theater and can be used as a filler for the future elemental cast requirements too.
Not people saying its "too hard" after begging for the game to be hard for over 4 years🤣🤣🤣🤣
Having an 18 built character requirement isn't difficulty - its just a grinding requirement.
So hard to get 18 characters with decent and gear and lvl 70 as well just to play the endgame
its not hard, its restrictive because of resin limitation
I've been playing the game since launch and have had sooooo much time to get my characters up, and have done so. This event is perfect for me maybe its time to redownload the game
@BRSxIgnition if you're fairly new then nobody expects to get into the new mode immediately and there's literally an easy mode that requires fewer characters, it's endgame so it's not going anywhere take your time with that, you aren't exactly pressured to finish it as a season is like 1 month, so no rush at all.
If you're a long time player then that's on you lol
TIP: For those wondering how to go around and prepare for Imaginarium Theater, I encourage you guys to build more supports and sub-dps (I.e., yelan, xingqiu, sucrose, etc.) They don't have to be strong but usable enough with level 8 talents or something. Your DPS will be sharing supports with other DPS so its easy to maintain which DPS/Drivers you want to use, but the supports and Sub-dps will be annoying because you will need to match the allowed element for this season and also synergize well enough with your given units available.
For your runs itself, always prioritize getting Companion rewards or events, more units to play with = easier time. Whatever your points leftover get some buffs.
Great fucking tips, EXCEPT I DIDNT ANY COMPANION FUCKS.
It's all luck based. Fuck this.
Anemo characters don't even need talents, if you swirl. Off field dps are still the best as it has been forever!
Good tip! I will do that!
@@dudeinadoughboy4327 somewhat but not entirely. just skill issue yourself
@@dudeinadoughboy4327 Just level up your supports. Not that hard :D U can use Clorinde, arlecchino, fischl, raiden, benett, Xiangling, Sara, Hu Tao with C0 Chevreuse i used Wanderer with C6 Faruzan, a 800em kazuha, and rest are just for to let the game start on hard mode.
Me with only 4 built characters: ok 🙂👍
Save your strongest character to fight boss..
I paid no attention to anything and just yolo'd it, was left with Klee, Yae, Sucrose and Kazuha. Just about scraped through though!
learnt this he hard way. i ended up with jean, beidou, kazuha, and bennett, and jean and beidou were barely built
imagine if this one has the charecter mapping function like the hsr divergent universe where all the underleveled charecters are leveled up to a certain point with moderate builds.
I mean you do have that tho, with the trial characters. And the other characters you pick can all come from Ur friends. So basically start making friends in genshin 😂
Can't wait for them to drop a new season with anemo,geo and dendro 😊
Problem? Skill issue if u can't clear easy af game with those
Funny enough, out of those three, dendro would probably have the hardest time when being played alone. Geo can brute force its way out, and with anemo you could swirl multiple elemental shields to amp your damage. But dendro does pretty much nothing without its secondy reactions unless they do something special like an arena that implicts the hydro state on the enemies
They might bring Hydro cryo anemo next rotation
And Dendro electro hydro for the next
U mean Cryo, Geo and Dendro? anemo is already on this season
@@nationalgeografic7687 You sound like a loser lmfao.
also another tip, focus on bringing more Sub DPS and supports rather than main carries, a "proper" team usually consists of 3 supports and 1 DPS anyways so you'll always end up spending 3 vigors on supports as opposed to the 1 vigor on DPS, the last thing u want is to be stuck on the final boss with 4 DPS all of which wants field time
How I unlock normal mode
@@7Tanjiro u need to have 10 chars matching the cycle element for easy, 14 for normal, and 18 for hard
I tried that and I ended up with teams with NO dps and all supports which didn't really work well (especially since we are restricted by elements. I could 100% make a hard hitting hyperbloom team with all healers, but dendro and hydro are not an option this season.) I'd recommend having a nice balance of both since, unless you are lucky with your cards you get 2 battles out of each unit max.
I ran up of DPS at stage 5 and that's annoying
Finally rewarded for having built every single character
i had 17/18 characters that fit the element leveled, so i had to quickly spend fragiles to level one more. im so screwed for any future cycles that need geo… *laughs in 1 geo character built*
Imagine next season they pick geo as a mandatory element. Well fuck, i don't have a single geo character above 70. I'm almost Ar 60 though.
honestly most players doesn't, Im ar 59 and didn't have any geo 5* or any geo character leveled till I got chiori which I really didn't want to get anyways
All because of those Geo Purists, as always...
There'll be one as a trial character at least, but hopefully it'll bring more attention to Geo in general and Hydro 4 stars
Time for my Itto, Chiori, Gorou, Ningguang, Yun Jin and Zhongli to shine!
Good thing there will be 2 other elements
If there’s one thing I really learned about this mode is that I need to build more utility characters that J haven’t built yet like Beidou, Chevreuse, Sucrose, etc.
12:28 this is awesome, I lowered my expectations for artifact grinding, resulting in me having more built characters that are good enough, so I'm well prepared
It seems the goal is to encourage people to pull for more characters instead of constellations
I see that as a W, people often said that you'll eventually start pulling for cons instead of characters, and I never understood why would you
As a level 60 player I have almost no Geo character(I only have Nigguang ,Noelle , and Yunjin) . I have 50 characters build but I just realized that I need to show some love to Geo which sucks cause I don't really like geo as a element . I will definitely build Nigguang and my Noelle needs some other artifact than the hunter set . which set will be good for her? It is time to check Sevy's Noelle build guide .
as AR 60, igot a ton of characters built as well, but i dont have any cryo above 80, and in dendro the only built i got is Nahida, and in Geo, it's only Noelle, yunjin, zhongli,
We'll pretty much need to get to work if we gotta keep up with those seasons-
You can just run Gladiator on Noelle… Husk isn’t a big upgrade for most people because they usually have better Glad pieces
If you really want to invest resin in noelle husk is best, otherwise gladiator is a good set as well and isnt even that much worse then husk anyways
Is it glad with the def time piece ? I have enough of the double crit piece on glad . Surely I will have enough to give her a full set.Thanks ..! I am not putting my resin into the husk set as I need to build some more cryo .( I have ganyu , kaeya, eula , rosaria , diona , Layla ,qiqi, Frrminet leveled up. But imma gonna level up chongyun and Charlotte as I have enough talent mats for those 2)
I have decided not to put so much on geo but I will definitely get Navia cause I lost 5050 before . I will double down on building other elements so that I can just skip Geo. The husk domain was a nightmare. It took me 2 months just to get workable piece for Yunjin .
I think the difficulty feels surprisingly well balanced for the purpose. It's nowhere near as crazy with the blessings as Sim Uni is, it's mostly minor buffs really, the focus is much more on team selection and resource management by choosing which characters to use when and what to save for later. The fights themselves are quite varied in terms of objectives and enemies so different chars get their own chances to shine, even if they might not normally in Abyss. I got the most kills with Venti in my first hard mode clear, feels like I haven't seen that in the past 3 years of Abyss. Definitely feels like a great addition to the game, it's relatively simple all things considered but it puts the emphasis so much more on horizontal account building as well as player game knowledge in regards to team drafting. Almost the polar opposite of Abyss in that regard.
I do think it's missing some sort of codex to keep track of all the information better though, HSR does a better job at that
i will say though, i would still really like a gamemode like sim uni that gives a bunch of crazy buffs and makes you do like 100x more damage lol. i just think that’s fun
Doing Imaginarium theatre for the first time was pretty fun and somewhat challenging! I didnt know you dont have to get the stars so i suffered a little bit to get them with Trial Wanderer...
I'm so glad i randomly got 1 Chevreuse from Standard. But also i'm far enough in the game that i levelled every character i have to 70/80 so i could get all acquaint fates, so- But its gonna be tough for me if some day the element restriction would be geo.
this has to be the weirdest end game mode I've played. all the unnecessary restrictions and rng made it impossible to enjoy. funny how they preach about player's anxiety then made FOMO: the end game. very disappointing, especially after playing DU
Ngl the two vishaps are much harder than the dancing robots 💀
The vishaps are so annoying not really hard but, I agree. Coppelia and Coppelius is a tank n' spank.
Seems boring tbh, not enough to make me install the game again
@@shevek5185 bye
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People want a harder endgame mode and they give a more tedious one instead. If you are forced to build character that you didnt like, my take is just skip it.
why do i feel like I have to read a textbook on all the rules and restrictions? Just add a roguelike infinite spiral abyss, it's all I ever wanted 😢
They should've done what they did in HSR Divergent universe by providing equipment/traces/levels to any character you own so you can use them. That would be fine. Making us invest resources into pretty much Every character (because seasons will change which elements are required) to do the "hard" mode is an intentional waste of time and resources to make players grind even more. That's not fun.
Now its time to build my Keqing, beidou and fischl
I adore Beidou; you will not regret it! Her block ability is so much fun!
Fischl is literally the best ngl
@@idrankjungkooksbananamilk9382 better than yae miko as well STUNLOCKED
Yes, Beidou and Fischl worked really well for me here... as for Keqing- I didnt want to play her without dendro
How have you not built fischl? She’s like the best electro support in the game
I'm so glad I basically built all of my characters, save a couple, with their best possible weapon and the best possible artefacts i have at hand. I was just building them because i got bored trying to vertically invest in the same character. Glad to see this payed off.
I had high expectations of this gamemode, which were not met at all (gameplay-wise). Hoyo really takes every measure to keep their gameplay as tame as possible and stop players from having fun...
The elemental restriction is a nice concept and I was looking forward to play new team comps, but while I have tons of characters built, only having a small selection to choose from at once and not being able to run less than 4 characters really ruined the fun for me. We should at least be able to build functioning teams every fight.
At the same time, the boons were really negligible... Rogue like elements should always slap hard to spice up the gameplay imo, which wasn't the case here at all. Next time I will completely ignore those and just unlock as many characters as possible.
I dont think having the ability to build functional teams off the bat is a smart move. Really, the difficulty of the combat simply revolves around how well rounded your team is in the roles it consists of. The mode is stupidly easy if you have an established team or a team that has complete synergy. The weaker the synergies, the harder it is. The greater the synergies, the easier it is.
Rather, I think the companion selection events should give us option between 3 characters rather than 2.
@@flamezforthegamez1056 Yeah, the combat should definitely be made harder in that case. And I agree that choosing from 3 characters would be one possibe improvement.
I would also like to suggest something like working with character roles, so that characters can be distributed in a more organized way, like we select a role we need and then get a random character from that role.
Anyway, imo being able to build a functional team should be a requirement, because it's the foundation for fun gameplay, and everything else should be balanced accordingly.
I got the impression that "building functional teams" is on the player. You choose whom to pick as your cast before you start, then you choose who to use and when with the team functionality in mind. The opening cast are all workable with each other, so then it's just a matter of unlocking more companions and "whom do I save for the boss fight and how do I make the rest work".
(Disclaimer: I'm the person who actively enjoys fighting bosses with friendship teams and finding ways to make them work regardless of synergy, so I'm biased here)
@@whistlegirl5726 I made my initial comment atfer playing the gamemode just once and have now replayed it.
This time I ignored boons and just got companions, making teambuilding less of an issue.
However, Genshin combat requires pretty much no skill at all while teambuilding is the only part that has depth, so restricting that part of it at all is just cursed imo.
I'd rather like to see something like an infinite abyss where every character can only be used once and then try to get as far as possible.
I swear some players called themself oldbie yet they complain about not having enough characters. Like what have you been doing all these times, yall really complain about dont have anything to do in game and now complain about have to grind in game.
I dread the day when Geo is an element requirement. I don't own Itto, Chiori and Navia so I didn't even raise my Gorou. I only have support 5 stars like Zhongli and Albedo and 4 star DPS like Ningguang and Noelle. And my friends aren't even active 😅
This game mode has a bit of difficulty- which is fine. Those people saying it’s not hard. Yes, to YOU- which is fine too. It’s got a bit for everyone but I’m just glad we can get the rewards easily.
Its insane hard to new players. For me, it was easy as i have a lot of build up characters.
@@Bullminator not only for enw players, for anyone with less then 2 years this is going to be pretty hard, not everyone has all characters built, and you can only pick 8 trial ones, each can be used 2 times, this is a game mode for wales...
@@ricardorocha6622 its not that hard to get the rewards tho, with the trail characters (8 characters all used twice makes for 8 completed rounds) then you can get some from friends and some you have yourself. You dont need that many characters build. I did complete it with only having 4 characters build decently ( i can only clear up to floor 11 in spiral abyss with them)
TL;DR
the main purpose of this endgame
Is too get you to build chatachters and also pull for charachters in different elements
From the start you get different element so its obvious. If you're casual you can just ignore this mode like abbys
@@fernandojoseraquel9150I like the og abyss better and now the rewards I could get from it decreased significantly, so as an f2p there is no ignoring option
@@Glnhl884This mode is more F2P friendly than the Abyss. If you’re unable to do it all yet, better start building.
@@shinobu1886 no I can get the rewards but it is very time consuming and not straight to the point, plus I can’t use the characters I put so much effort building so what’s the point
@@Glnhl884 You can and do use your own characters… have you actually tried the new mode?
the buff applying to abyss is kinda wild, ngl
I am extremly pissed by the fact that abyss resets every 30 days from now on. part of this lies in the rewards but mostly i am tilted because i love abyss and dont want to be restricted in that area. bring both modes and reset them every 15 days, hoyoverse wont go broke by giving some more primos to the public. from what i know most people dont even do abyss or at least are not doing it on a regular basis
The main takeaway ive seen is the shocking amount of people that flatly don't invest in their characters.
How is everyone this strapped for units???
Like, new accounts sure but for people who have been playing for ages?
TBF, building and raising characters is one of the worst parts of the game. Its so tedious.
@kyuzairen5383 Thing is I'm a lazy bastard, like I haven't even touched Chenyun Vale at all, and yet even i have an easy 4-5 units of every element ready to go.
It's feasible to finish it even on mid build characters you just need to know when and what character to use on each act
The only annoying part is the freaking protect the monolith where you need to beat all enemies in a given amount of time but when you defeat an enemy you will lose time 🤣
It’s a venti propoganda stage😊
You don't need to kill all the enemies. You just need the time to run out with the monolith above the required percentage. That's why killing the enemies draws the stage to a close faster.
Venti: You could not live with your own failures, and where did that bring you? Back to me.
@@JohnDoe-bi1td yeah if you only need the rewards but when you want the stars you gonna need to beat them
Ah yes. The Venti moment
Personally I'm a bit concerned about this mode. I have felt choked on characters for a long time as a F2P player. After about a year of play, even if there were no elemental restrictions I cannot field 18 characters. I don't have enough weapons for even the low constellation 4 stars if I had them leveled. Never mind the amount of artifact investment C0 4 stars need to even begin functioning...
Divergent Universe in Star Rail is similar with one big exception; if you own a character but they're under invested they auto sync up to trial levels. Was really hoping they'd do something like that here.
My thoughts exactly. If they were going to lock you out based off of how many characters you have built, they really should give more resources to ACTUALLY level the necessary elemental characters. I'm unable to get into normal because I have 12/14. Now, I have to grind out leylines (both exp and mora) AND boss material to lvl up more people. I simply don't have the resin to do that in a timely manner. I'm sure I can reach the 14 characters necessary (even if they are going to be hella weak), but I definitely can't reach the 18 necessary characters that are needed for the hard mode. We have a month, but the resin given is not enough.
Here's what I've noticed so far playing HSR + genshin.
Half of the HSR endgame modes, aren't even really endgame. Like they're so godamn easy
The more accurate term for them is something like just free wishes, BC it's not really a challenge it's legit just free currency
Endgame is for players who have put alot of time and effort into game, it is quite literally for late game players.
There is also an easy mode with 10 charas requirements, and if you do abyss that means you have at least 8 ppl built.
What ppl need to realise is that if it's hard for you, it doesn't necessarily means it's a bad thing. Just do the easy level and invest until U can actually do the hard mode.
@had-sd4hs the thing is, it's "hard" in a bad way. It's not "hard" because it requires skill to beat. It's "hard" because we simply don't have the resources to build the characters necessary. And it's not like we can grind and level them and their weapons up, because the resin simply isn't there.
@@villa_art
I don't agree with that???
It comes down to how you chose to spend ur resin, BC there is def enough resin even before the increase.
And I can prove it as well. ☠️
I have almost all the four stars in the game, and I spent roughly two months leveling all of them up to 70 last year.
And I spent the last two months leveling all my characters talents up to 2-6-8s so I am living proof we have enough resin 😂
I did this all in exams months BC artifact farming required too much brain presence 😅
The end of it is this, abyss tends to reward min-maxing more. So if you go and spend all ur resin perfecting Ur Hu Tao, U will get primos.
Theatre rewards variety. So if you spend ur primos leveling ur characters instead, U will get primos.
I don't think that's bad, BC if a person who has played even for a single year they can at least do easy mode.
Just like abyss, you will need to build up Ur account to be able to clear theatre that is all.
What I am mostly seeing is that ppl are upset BC they can't clear. But it's fine BC just BC U can't clear today doesn't mean you won't be able to clear in a month.
Now that everyone knows that U need to invest more horizontally, simply spend a month doing that and hopefully U will be able to do next season of theatre.
But I think it's unfair to say it is a bad end game just BC it does not favour the way you have spent ur resources in game.
@had-sd4hs so it took you 1/3 of a year to barely build your characters to the requirements? NOT even getting artifacts for them? Nigga..... you really showed me 😂😂😂 HEY EVERYONE, IT'LL ONLY TAKE YOU OVER 4 MONTHS TO BUILD DECENT CHARACTERS AND DECENT BUILDS TO PLAY THEIR NEW MODE YIPPEEEEE. Why is it so hard for people to admit that they are a tad bit too stingy with their stamina system? The higher resin cap does nothing either. You still only get 180 per 24 hours so the resources you acquire are the same
I wish they specified more about the toy medal shop. Do the medals carry over to next reset? Will we ever be able to buy those poses again or if you dont pick now they're gone forever?! Who knows! It makes me anxious
From what I understand, the shop's stock is additive and coins should carry over. I'd ask through the feedback page if you want a definitive answer, though.
@@effortlessfury I'd love to, yes!
i regret a lot of the decisions i made immediately after locking in the characters ...
it's pretty boring, nothing challenging with this "end game" content
This is probably the worst endgame content they could've added, so congrats to them, I guess
Mihoyo: Mission accomplished
👎
A read through the comments shows people will complain no matter what. Even when given exactly what they want. Lucky these are just a loud minority. Who always want to cry, and hate on genshin. All while pretending wuwa is perfect and amazing, while ignoring the massive problems that game has. All so they can hate on genshin. It is sad. I love both games. And both have problems. Though from a purely objective stand point, wuwa has much worse issues, including one's that will kill the game. I hope it doesn't come to that. But if they don't fix it, next year none of us will be talking about wuwa, while genshin still keeps improving.
precisely. i feel like most of the people who are complaining don't entirely know how to play the damn thing. they're acting like you need to invest months into a character to make them viable for imaginarium which couldn't be further from the truth.
So, it take times to think of which choices to choose in each stages. I literally cleared Hard Mode with 8 Challenge Stellas. Playing on my phone too.
*Sigh...* Electro haters in these days... Always of these supreme elements and characters like;
Hydro - Neuvillette
Pyro - Arlecchino
Cryo - idk... It would think as Wriothsley right now.
I hate them so bad by their factions. They're still my previous enemies. For they want these 3 to be End All Be All in this game while they're completely thrashing Electro all about damages only.
It just... I just want only one single Electro character can be powerful as everyone and all elements.
@VrtielA6300 yep, it just takes planning and flexibility. So many people claiming this kills the team building aspect of the game, when it is the opposite. This makes you use teams other then the standard meta. It forces you to consider how to make characters work together. Those people just suck at team building and can only use the teams they are told to.
As for electro, we do have Raiden and clorinde. Both of while can easily match anyone other then neuvillette, though in team damage they can come close. Just his raw numbers can't be touched.
@@zogar8526But for me... It's for Keqing... I'll just keep proving Keqing for atoning her own banner in 1.3
I love it only my problem is skill issue i cant dodge properly but i build almost 18 characters😊😊😊😊
This end-game feels like a very cheap and low effort version of HSR's simulated universe, which by the way got upgraded like 3 times already with more content every time than there is in this one. Almost feels like as if HSR had 3 years to develop its end-game instead of genshin lol. Also the constrains and restrictions feels frustrating to me instead of fun, maybe thats just me tho. Strong 2/10 from me. One point for the free (kinda not really, after around a thousand hours of gametime i still cant do the the hard one as of now) primogems, one point for it being easy and fast to finish. Kind of the same points I can give to the small fighting events between the bigger better crafted ones.
Leveling up a bunch of characters I wasn't planning on using is cool, I like the idea and have a stockpile of resin to do it.. the hard part to me is actually getting enough halfway decent, leveled up artifacts. I started the game last year and just don't have a ton of spare artifacts and exp. Would have been a perfect time for them to have introduced actual loadout saves >.
also I'm lowkey waiting for a season of IT where the 3 elements present just simply doesn't work, something like cryo dendro geo where the only thing u can do is crystalize and pray
Time for the Geo carries shine lol, as they don't Care for elemental reactions, maybe even Eula as she would be Cryo but her real element is physhical
I think that is where the alternate cast will come in clutch 😅😅😅
Dang alright that could be interesting
@@tristanmanalo6252 you'll basically have to save the special guest appearance for the boss fights in that case
Its completely different than spiral abyss, and thats what i like about it... but it does need reasons to do more than a single run given you can finish it quick and it doesnt refresh for 30 days
Oh wow, streaming Imaginarium Theater earlier to day, now with an explainer and first impressions video on the same day. Gotta go fast is Sevy.
I cannot imagine what Ill be doing when the element requirement is geo I definitely will not be able to complete the theater then🤣
loved this, was engaging and makes you try things you haven't tried.
I cant believe i played 4 years to get a lame end game, i finished in the hardest difficult and my reaction was
"Already ? wtf"
And the cherry on top is this crap replacing the 2nd half of the abyss instead of bringing a new source of primos, amazing hoyo 🗿
I was hoping for this to be at least somewhat as good as simulated universe from star rail but the arbitrary element and character restriction makes it feel like they took 1 step forward 3 steps back
true, they should fixate on some reaction like the event we just finished and not completely stop people from using other elements. Give a buff for the focused elemental reaction but let us play whoever we want. Not to mention you cant for example only use neuvillette to destroy it since you can only play 2 instance per characters
Using just neuvilette is boring
Frrr 💀💀💀
@@yuvx8516 Neuvillette hater spotted 🤦🏻♀️
@@brussailpook8213 arbitrarily restricting elements which means characters just straight up like this is just a bad idea for a gacha why did I roll for these characters if I can’t use them like star rail doesn’t do this even tho it’d actually be less bad there but genshin does when the core combat relies even more on element and character synergy
I'm hating this endgame already. i don't have any characters that level 70, just the strong one or the must useful one their builds pain in my soul🙂 why didn't they do like star rail did build our characters 😮💨
The dumbest part is that the mode rewards you for NOT pulling the latest characters because you get them for free and relatively built and instead having spent your resources on other units. Absolutely mental once again.
No you don't? I don't have Wrio and Sigewinne and I couldn't choose them as special guests. And the Thoma build was almost unusable, had to find some pieces for my Thoma 😂
I disagree, the trial characters are capped at level 80, which makes them relatively weaker then if you were to build and level them up yourself
@@kingcc3396 also their builds are shit LOL
that c0 faruzan was horrid ngl, bursing every other rotation
chars prebuilt are underleveled and not optimized
I was able to clear this with my less invested account BUT the Strat is really thinking ahead and reserving your best teams for the boss floors. I had to rewind once on that account because I wasn't thinking and used the wrong team on the prior floor. I was also using characters like Xinyan so It's doable on accounts that meet minimum requirements and have invested a little in their units.
if this garbo is their idea of end game then I have no hope for this game's future. the obvious FOMO and whale bait, it's honestly absurd to think this was the same company that had SU/DU. can't believe I'm saying this but genshin design team really need to learn from HSR cuz this ain't it
The thing im salty about is the fact that I only have 17 characters that meet the requirements for hard, with the 1 character from a friend, I’ll have 18 BUT IT INSISTS I HAVE 18 MYSELF LIKE COME ON
Sevy here to the rescue 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Bruh this mode forces you to build ALL your characters this event is for whales or ppl who spend hours on it daily
not necessarily you dont need top 1% builds to beat it lol
people saying its p2w baffle me.
you don't need to pay to complete it, i just completed it with almost all c0 4*s alongside the trial 5*s.
it's not even asking for crazy builds or team comps, you just need to learn how to prioritize your characters. if you're struggling, limit yourself to one 5* per room.
it's endgame content. it's there forever. it's not mandatory. dont just sit there farming 50cv artifacts for one character and you'll be fine. you dont need crazy top 1% builds to beat this.
not everyone needs to be built either, half of my team was actually just filler for elemental reactions lol.
Finding excuses for laziness, most of them just don't like building chars
ok
@@greenvega honestly
Yeah while it is just a loud minorty it really proves hoyo's point about the anxiety thing they mentioned a while ago cause people are freaking out.
I remember trying it out and then rapidly getting softlocked as I have nothing on my account made for it
I dont have any pyro characters and maybe like 2 anemo units and all my electro units are made for dendro, I have everything dendro and I NEVER make any teams without dendro or hydro in them, my most powerful characters are hydro and dendro, this game mode curently is just unbeatable for me and not fun at all... also I tend to throw characters build to the trash to remplace them by better ones so this game mode is just not doable for my account...
I been using the same hyperbloom team for a year and a half in every single abys and I refuse to stop being able to use that for everything...
god with this new endgame content hoyo really really should upgrade the artifacts system like is terrible rn how can u spend 1000 resins on it and it give none NONE good artifact, so how are you be able to build the other characters with that damn old system that keep giving you DEF stats all the time, specially if we are not switching the artifacts with the others, this is just really annoying
I just finished getting to Act 8 with 8 stars on hard mode and overall it was kinda fun but also annoying at first as I wasn’t used to it. I’m gonna start building more characters now( even though I don’t really want to use some of them)
Wait we're finally getting a new end game and it's permanent........... I am so proud of this team. I mean yeah it took them 3 years to finally give us a new type of end game but I'm not complaining if this means that we're finally getting some new end game content. Can't wait to try this out!
Meanwhile HSR has 4 endgame modes now with better rewards and dailies etc...
@@BRSxIgnition That's because the team really loves Honkai to the point of Star Rail getting a lot of end game content while Genshin JUST got its second one. I'm just happy that we finally got another thing for end game even if like you said star rail has way more end game.
@BRSxIgnition It's technically even more if you separate Swarm Disaster, Gold and Gears, and Divergent Universe 😅
@@keneunaegbu851 exactly
@@keneunaegbu851what the point to separate that, if that's not end game modes, its not replayable, u get rewards one time and its dead
I have increased the world level from 60 because I am end game, since I have played since launch of Genshin. However, it’s made the Theatre, Abyss and Natlan difficulty spike very noticeably hard despite having heavily invested and spent hours grinding character levels. I am mostly free to play but pay for battle pass and Welking moon to support the game and do all events for wishes. I have 60 characters and most are level 70 to 80 (only Diluc level 90 because i don’t think it’s worth levelling to 90 for all) I have maybe 20 characters level 40 to 60 such as Barbara, Faruzan, Collei, Heizou, Amber, Lisa, Lynette, Dori etc, because I am not keen on them compared to my other characters . I have full constellations on quite a few characters and all full talents. Weapons I do level to level 90 and try to get refinements to level 5 if possible. Nearly all characters I have are friendship level 10. I am a solo player so don’t play with friends so can’t borrow unfortunately for this so if you want to coop or connect Europe server, leave your ID to connect.
Thanks for the video! I didn’t understand how this game mechanics worked but now understand what I was doing wrong and why I was frustrated. 😅
Restriction Simulator 😂
I feel like people who complain about this mode wanted it to be another Spiral Abyss so they could once again flex their c6 r5 Raiden they had spent the last 2 years building or smth. But I hate Abyss, I am BORED of using and grinding for the same charas over and over again because the only endgame goal this game provides you with is to Kill Faster. But now non-abyss people like me who prefer building many just for fun of it instead of minmaxing can thrive too and I enjoy it thoroughly.
I hope they change the mode because the current one is absolutely dogshit
@@trlwaifulover7593 your opinion is dogshit. Wah I need characters built. Wow it almost like that the nature of endgame in gacha. Ever try a pvp gacha. Same thing with needing the newest unit that broken if you want top rank for more gems.
I absolutely hate everything about this mode apart from the primos it give. Why are they forcing players to built certain characters & require a certain number of high level characters just to be eligible to participate???? This is complete BS
They are essentially locking out a good chunk of players from participating in this mode. That's scummy if you ask me
SKIP!!! or just play easy mode!!! TRUST ME, IT WILL SAVE YOU 12 hours of FRUSTRATION!!!
This thing just started and I’m already over it. The rules are so ridiculously overly complicated and hard to understand. I don’t foresee myself getting into this. To me the primo gems aren’t worth the frustration. The current “cast” has all characters I either don’t have or I have but don’t play and don’t know how to use.
Can’t wait for people to complain about this endgame and how it’s giving them “unnecessary anxiety.”
POV: EVERYBODY BE SAYING SKILL ISSUE WHEN U KNOW THIS IS A PLOT TO GET PEOPLE TO USE ACTUAL MONEY
Exactly!!! its not even worth playing hard mode!!! just play easy mode!!!
I can't train myself because of that word. Rather than spending time to training, I want to prove myself rather than train. 👎
I really hate this mode. I cannot time the final level after a few complete reruns through the event. Maybe I am just too dumb to understand the vigor and other systems, but I have too weak of characters to finish it. For reference I have been playing since launch and have decently built 18 characters, so I am just lost and give up out of frustration.
Y'know what? I'm glad there's a game mode that encourages horizontal investment! It'll be nice to try out new characters I don't usually play with!
F2P players who saved for months to c6 a character and now they cant even use it 🤡
If you’re a F2P player who chose to invest everything into C6 one character you only have yourself to blame. Don’t get me wrong, do whatever you want if you love a character enough for for it, but you should have known the disadvantage you put yourself in. Besides, all the elements will cycle so it’s not like you won’t be able to use them
Hard Mode is making me build my other characters. Going back to watch Sevy's guides esp for C0 chars
I’d say any game mode that tells people to shut up and stop using the same character (Raiden, Neuvillette, Nahida, Furina, Yelan, Kazuha, etc) over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over is a MASSIVE WIN.
i went to look for what this thing was all about and wow, posted 5 minutes ago. this will come in handy
I wish the build switching only applied to imaginarium theater so that I could swap around builds without having to worry about switching them back later
The main prblm is to even get 18 chars from 3 elements to lv 70...like I neither have the resin nor the mora to do so... Idk why no one is highlighting this factor and also can't just leave them to lv 70...u have to give them weapons and artifacts and talent up them and just think how much resources it will cost... The cost of completing the theatre is way more than the rewards... Guess genshin just scammed us again
Cuz it doesn't take much time or mora to upgrade everyone to 70, as someone who have every single char 70/80+
that's just the barrier to entry, same like how floor 12 barrier to entry is vertical, this one is horizontal
You have 30 days, so just instead of doing artifact domains to get 2.5% more crit rate once a week... build some 4 stars you don't normally use, give them artifacts and weapons from other characters, level their talents, etc.
Xiangling, Bennett, Kuki, and Fischl are meta. Beidou, Sucrose, Thoma, Chevreuse, and Sara are useful supports. They only need to be usable, nothing crazy. Plus the **six** trial characters.
You likely have two or three Pyro/Electro/Anemo 5 stars, and you can borrow one character from a friend. That's a quick way to get the minimum
And if you can't do any of that, it's fine; it's only a few hundred primos for the hardest difficulty, like abyss 12
isnt need too much resources to lv 70, you need only do the ascension 4 times (60-70 and just max lv 70), probably (witout count in mora and exp books because you always have a lot of them, unless you are new player = then you have a lot of resources to get and spend, instead of focus 1 character to lv 90, you can lv up 6 to lv 70), 1 day of resin (only for boss material) you already lv up 1-2 character to lv 70 if you are AR 55.
Since to lv 90 (only for boss material) you need 46, 12 epic and 6 legendary (18 epic) ---> 30 epic shards of the character element (more hard to get than boss material since if you level a lot fo character to lv 90, you will soon run out of this and start farming boss for only this shards.
To lv 70 you only need 14 and 6 epic (in total) shards of the character element
@@LuneWatcher I can lv up the chars in 30 days but yeah it will take 30 days lol... Like I can't instantly get the primos😅... And i already have fully built c6 bennet and sucrose
I am struggling with this new game mode because my resources are limited, as I only started a few months ago. What I can say to fellow somewhat new players is that this game mode is hard, especially since we don't have good artifacts yet.
As vertical investor : I Must Say, I Am Screwed guys, for me it's so hard with my level 20 (4 stars characters ).
doing 36 stars is child play for me in spiral abyss,
but now i have to built all my characters and artifacts too....
i am F2P , i am not P2W either
i manage to get at 6 stage now let see what happen within 30 days.
Can’t wait for the Hydro, Dendro, Electro season /j
Boring
Really enjoyed Theater finally no more double chore spiral a month. Theater is much more fun and much more variety. Character requirements is a plus with my 4 years worth of characters doing nothing in spiral.
It's definitely more fun than the abyss, i do wish it had more replayability though. It has lot of fun mechanics, like inviting your friends characters and getting to use trial characters, and i enjoy having to use wacky teams that i wouldn't usually. It certainly is the more chill end-game mode, catered towards the people that like pulling for new characters as opposed to vertical investment.
This is such a bad update that makes abyss look fun, nothing about this is fun, I don't want to play with just main dps or support character in the games. There was no thought into this at all.
Confusing af