the history of Genshin Impact's most nerfed character.. (Reupload)

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  • the only archon that currently has no use in any of the game's hardest contents offered.. looking forward to genshin history being a mainstay on this channel!!

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  • @semconteudo391
    @semconteudo391 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1845

    It funny how venti was so broken that they needed to change most of the enemies mechanics just because of him

    • @shutup1037
      @shutup1037 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      Nah, just their weight value

    • @antifever5336
      @antifever5336 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +98

      @@shutup1037 also, dash move, throwing projectiles( while in the vortex), and also summon

    • @Nickk_idkk
      @Nickk_idkk 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      similar thing happened in another hyv game (Honkai Impact 3rd) when a character called Herrscher of the Void came out, they tend to do this

    • @TheKenny2113
      @TheKenny2113 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@Nickk_idkk Valkyrie Chariot 🤝Venti
      Being able to group small enemies in a game that turned into beefy dmg sponge enemy dps check

    • @b.w.s3165
      @b.w.s3165 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      And made the entire game's combat feel less impactful and more bullet-spongy as a result.
      Seriously, enemy design, outside of visuals, has only went downhill since Inazuma to THIS DAY.
      The reason combat in games like Deep Rock Galactic work is because you can visibly see and FEEL the impact of your bullets deconstructing the body and organs of the bugs, and the way they recoil from damage taken and react to what you do.
      When you take that away and make every enemy an immovable tank, you no longer feel like you're "fighting", you just feel like you're causing damage numbers to pop up.

  • @limhx-6734
    @limhx-6734 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2041

    they really made enemies immovable damage sponges to counter venti

    • @kims4149
      @kims4149 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +62

      Venti wasn't a character but a cheat code tbh

    • @limhx-6734
      @limhx-6734 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kims4149 I want my sucky Archon to suck again, right now he just sucks at sucking well enough

    • @UltimateGenosyko
      @UltimateGenosyko 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +319

      @@kims4149 still pretty scummy. You’re not really getting what you paid for. If you got Venti because of his ability to group enemies, and then a few months later the ability for enemies to get grouped up gets negated then that’s a clear bait and switch.

    • @hailthequeenFM
      @hailthequeenFM 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

      And they also proceed to create Nahida, Neuvillette, Furina, and Arlechino. ​@kims4149

    • @krusher737
      @krusher737 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      ​@@UltimateGenosykoI use raiden shogun, arlecchino, venti and bennett in a team for fontaine domains. Not hard to get the enemies in the void if you draw them toward you like the mechs. Other enemies do get sucked into it and that makes things easier but overall most trouble i could find would be having to use Arlecchino's burst to heal because of not dodging in time.

  • @rickzelzkie31
    @rickzelzkie31 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1661

    JUSTICE FOR THE ANEMO ARCHON. WE MAY NOT BE AS HYPE AS BEFORE BUT WHENEVER HE APPEARS IN A EVENT SOME PEOPLE CAN'T HELP BUT SMILE WHENEVER THEY SEE HIM

    • @magiveem
      @magiveem 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      TSUKASA PFPPPPPPPP ALSO I USE HIM STILL-

    • @igitnisaplit2295
      @igitnisaplit2295 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

      What if he gets buffed on his second story🤧

    • @Jinni-iras17514
      @Jinni-iras17514 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      new endgame 👀

    • @ruangois1875
      @ruangois1875 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      WE WANT BUFFS, REWORKS AND A BETTER SIGNATURE APPEARANCE FOR HIM

    • @user-od8jo5he2u
      @user-od8jo5he2u 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      he's a cutie patootie, my cute lil alcoholic 🥹

  • @immortalinferno8809
    @immortalinferno8809 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +765

    Let's not forget that venti had great potential as an anemo supporter especially with constellations, but Xiao, whose entire kit revolved around aoe plunging and greatly benefited from grouped up enemies, was made to have PERFECT hit boxes to NOT work with venti ult despite his plunge animation even depicting verticality with the spear effects

    • @sergeanthuman
      @sergeanthuman 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      But wanderer tho

    • @IgorGrazina
      @IgorGrazina 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +71

      @@sergeanthuman Wanderer works very well with him, sadly he released during Hoyo's war against both Freeze and Venti
      No signs of improvements since then

    • @emranao
      @emranao 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ⁠@@IgorGrazinaoh, what happened back then (freeze and venti) i was not playing

    • @cyaniire6924
      @cyaniire6924 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​​@@emranao Consecrated beasts happened. Enemies that have very high freeze resistance, do high damage, and can't be crowd controlled.
      ...we had 4 of them in a single chamber half once

  • @rajaryan-fe1oy
    @rajaryan-fe1oy 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +276

    Man I get it, they had to nerf him but didn't have to make him obsolete, specially when there's no shortage of meta breaking characters already in the game, my boy was done really dirty

    • @Loli4lyf
      @Loli4lyf 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      they did him dirty? 😳

    • @nemoralia
      @nemoralia 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      they didn't make him obsolete, or rather they reverted that back in 2.1. he still pulls most enemies in (or ALL enemies except bosses if they're frozen/petrified) and they still occasionally release new bosses that don't move from their spot a lot. thanks to Venti, i didn't have to learn the fatui operatives' moves, both Coppelia and Coppelius are a joke, and i have Kazuha free for the second half of the abyss. his ult also eats through the Baptist's shields pretty fast so he's good for the second half as well. stop listening to the doomposters and try using him for yourself, he's still strong and super fun to play!

    • @zadokutah2315
      @zadokutah2315 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​​@@nemoraliaHe did tho.
      Ever since 2.x or so, Practically Sucrose & Kazuha can do what Venti does BUT Better.
      There is absolutely no reason to use Venti over Kazuha or Sucrose unless you simply want to.
      This isn't "because they Buff on top of CC" but by simply how their CC Works.
      Kazuha & Sucrose can still group immovable Enemies without the need of Freeze unlike Venti that need them to get Frozen before they can get sucked by His Q, because His E doesn't have any form of CC.
      Granted Sucrose needs C1 or Sacrificial to have Her CC actually reliable, but its a fair comparison since She's 4 Stars.
      Mind you I'm not hating on Venti, neither doomposting, because I'm also irritated how Venti got so many indirect nerf to the point He became obsoleted before even I can fully experience His Cheats lmao

  • @N3R0WAIFU
    @N3R0WAIFU 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +447

    ONCE A VENTI MAIN ALWAYS A VENTI MAIN 🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @Dragonape12
      @Dragonape12 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Fr Always Once A ANEMO MAIN ALWAYS AN ANEMO MAIN from Venti to Xiao to Kazuha and maybe in the future Scara

    • @unbekanntes_etwas
      @unbekanntes_etwas 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Samee

    • @Sleepy_Food_Lover
      @Sleepy_Food_Lover 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      YESSSSS

    • @makii7408
      @makii7408 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@Dragonape12traitor

    • @Dragonape12
      @Dragonape12 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@makii7408 wdym?

  • @jajathenewking6131
    @jajathenewking6131 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +539

    Venti definitely needs a buff for being the anemo archon he truly doesn't feel like it compared to the anemo units we have especially Kazuha.

    • @zzzkeiii
      @zzzkeiii 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +121

      True, its kinda unfair tbh since the other archons are all the best at their roles but Venti? powercreeped by a human samurai (i dont hate Kazuha, i even whaled for him but lorewise its pretty weird)

    • @jadecoolness101
      @jadecoolness101 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +69

      @@zzzkeiii yeah. It's not so much that the character needs to be thebest of the element (though that typically happens too), but it should be the best at the element's sort of "archetype."
      Best example, Zhongli is the best shielder in the game, bar none. But... He only shields, so he's not really all that Meta in terms of power. He just makes the game very convenient.

    • @zzzkeiii
      @zzzkeiii 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@jadecoolness101 well i guess thats okay too since venti is the best at cc (altho i wish we will have a char that applies anemo like raiden's or nahida's (using skills not burst but i guess thats be too op))

    • @jajathenewking6131
      @jajathenewking6131 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@zzzkeiii *cough* Kazuha *cough*

    • @jadecoolness101
      @jadecoolness101 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

      @@zzzkeiii He's really not best at cc... there are enemies than cannot be pulled by Venti's burst, that Kazuha CAN suck in with his skill.
      Venti is actually tragic.

  • @Chrisgarciam
    @Chrisgarciam 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +674

    Venti is my favorite Archon, and I pulled him even after I got Kazuha just out of love for the character. Still, I hate what they did to him, he's an Archon after all, and they made a random samurai (no hate towards Kazu boy, I love him) stronger and more valuable than the God of wind.
    Same thing with what they did to freeze teams.
    As a veteran player and as someone who used to enjoy the Abyss bc of replayability with different teams, I hate what they've been doing recently, not making the abyss harder but just more annoying overall.

    • @vincikeeper1581
      @vincikeeper1581 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He's not random.

    • @Chrisgarciam
      @Chrisgarciam 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +98

      @@vincikeeper1581 In my eyes he is, at least when compared to Venti, but again, I meant no hate towards Kazuha, he's one of my favorites too.

    • @vincikeeper1581
      @vincikeeper1581 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Chrisgarciam you're right, in your eyes

    • @Chrisgarciam
      @Chrisgarciam 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      @@vincikeeper1581 👍🏻

    • @Patroclus27
      @Patroclus27 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +88

      @@vincikeeper1581 listen. Kazu is my favourite character. But he is some rando mortal.

  • @sMv-Afjal
    @sMv-Afjal 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +349

    Venti and Freeze both are nerfed hard, abyss nowadays always have 2 floor mob enemy and then a boss, and vice versa for other side.

    • @deadpaul6587
      @deadpaul6587 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      Fr, i remember the days where i used to whine about how broken the morgana comp was

    • @BenDover-uf8gg
      @BenDover-uf8gg 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Also the bosses have cyro res so it just makes it inefficient to play

    • @wantu7816
      @wantu7816 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Bosses are not usually a problem for Ayaka freeze unless it's really cryo resistant or immune which has been the trend in versions 3-4 of spiral abyss rotations.

    • @elmuffintristea4523
      @elmuffintristea4523 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@wantu7816 Why would you use a reaction that doesn't work against bosses?

    • @wantu7816
      @wantu7816 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @elmuffintristea4523 because it's pretty good. One or two elemental bursts are usually enough.

  • @Leon_LF
    @Leon_LF 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +93

    Nerfing characters like this on gacha games is craazyy, imagine spending hundreds of dollars to get a character just for it to become bad later

    • @korrokemono9006
      @korrokemono9006 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      that's literally the fate of EVERY gacha though... powercreep is a killer. doesn't matter how good or popular a character is, they will inevitably be outclassed by new characters, and in order to keep those newer characters from curb stomping everything the content has to get harder, pushing out the older characters.
      If they were to then go back and buff older characters to be more in line, no one would pull for the new ones and the cashflow would stop. It's the unfortunate nature of the genre, they need old characters like venti to become obsolete so that players will pay for the new ones.

    • @Leon_LF
      @Leon_LF 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      @@korrokemono9006 Yes yes I know all of this, and that's one of the many reasons why I think gachas and gambling are one of the worsts things created by society.

    • @r.d.6290
      @r.d.6290 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Imagine farming blizzard stray set for freeze teams only for freeze to be nerfed to the oblivion

    • @DragonoftheDarknessFlame
      @DragonoftheDarknessFlame วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@korrokemono9006 Eh. Look how long it took for Venti to finally fall. It was literal years and multiple regions of dominance. Also, that's not true. FGO is extremely popular and proves you wrong on every front by constantly buffing older characters. People will summon for whatever they wanna summon for

    • @entegi
      @entegi วันที่ผ่านมา

      Genshin "powercreep/nerfs" are VERY tame compared to a lot of gachas, even compared to other hoyo games

  • @soos.mpvier3187
    @soos.mpvier3187 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +64

    16:00 ventis exploration was also nerfed by the windcatcher, giving the same thing for practically free and a different cool down.

    • @Aman-km6cv
      @Aman-km6cv 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That cooldown is insane tho💀

  • @cjparedes3211
    @cjparedes3211 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +81

    For the last 3 years recap provided by Hoyo, Venti is always on the most used character for exploring when I play. I never removed him in the abyss since his 2nd re run where I got him.

  • @MrSandMan961
    @MrSandMan961 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +57

    They need to introduce some sort of stun mechanic where big units can be knocked around after enough consistent damage or elemental reactions hit so they can be carried by stuff by Venti's black hole cause just making them damage sponges made the game feel worse for everyone overall.

    • @r.d.6290
      @r.d.6290 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Something like a stagger bar that is common for newest arpgs and for some gachas like wuthering waves

  • @limhx-6734
    @limhx-6734 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +222

    10:03 WAIT THEY MADE THE INAZUMA ENEMIES FUCKING SUCKABLE?????? 2 YEARS AFTER I LEFT?????

    • @caedutiger9362
      @caedutiger9362 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +61

      🤨📸

    • @deadpaul6587
      @deadpaul6587 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      No bro this happened in 2.1
      12:00

    • @Evitzeoshowerthoughts
      @Evitzeoshowerthoughts 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      no it happened alongside the specter nerf. which was like, 2.2 or something idk

    • @trollking6315
      @trollking6315 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Shouldnt have quit, you filthy quitter.

    • @mackeralsmackers
      @mackeralsmackers 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      I always wondered why the weakest mob in Inazuma, the grunts, were so dang heavy, why every single one of them were so resistant to knockback.

  • @mini3681
    @mini3681 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +61

    Funny how future balancing issues is a problem but power creep is not
    Like so many characters are bound to be forgotten due to this

    • @Uvkki
      @Uvkki 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I believe that the only true characters currently that are going to be forgotten or maybe I should say won't be played are Dehya and Qiqi. They're not really going to be forgotten because people will always complain at how bad they are but let's be honest, they're unusable (especially Qiqi) and there is no way to buff them. Other than the two of them, every 5 star we currently have is good, some better, some worse, but there are always people who want to play them, especially because a lot of people (or at least people I've met) main characters that they like because of visuals or story, not because of numbers on the screen. Obviously teams like Ayaka Freeze aren't as popular like Neuvi Hypercarry but does it even matter for any player that likes Ayaka freeze? I don't think so.

    • @lum_berry111
      @lum_berry111 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Uvkkidehya has a niche now with neuvillette (c0 specifically) and furina made her slightly better so at least she has that. qiqi is pretty hopeless though

    • @Aman-km6cv
      @Aman-km6cv 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@lum_berry111Qiqi has a place in new clorinde team with skyward blade.

    • @Aman-km6cv
      @Aman-km6cv 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No character would be truly forgotten, people still play keqing quickbloom. Diluc made a comeback after Xianyun came.

  • @BlackGateofMordor
    @BlackGateofMordor 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +93

    He was too strong, and because of that his kit doesn't really offer anything else because Mihoyo rightfully understood how strong he was. If they had made the suction weaker and given him something else I think he'd still be top tier.

    • @rish77778
      @rish77778 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      even if they gave him a talent that gave more elemental resistance shred that could stack with VV, he could still be meta today

    • @robertoalexandermendezmore408
      @robertoalexandermendezmore408 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@rish77778sad thing, he have... is his C6

    • @Aman-km6cv
      @Aman-km6cv 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@robertoalexandermendezmore408 most his constellation are anemo traveller's copied and slapped. There's no way to fix that.

  • @hagarrastamnz596
    @hagarrastamnz596 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

    I find myself using Venti as much as i use Kazuha, tbh, i recommend having both.

  • @TheDhanaMC
    @TheDhanaMC 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Hoyo is the Celestia that Venti hates all along.

  • @kaichokai
    @kaichokai 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +117

    As someone who has mained venti from 1.0 i really think mohoyo has smth for Venti. There is no 2nd story quest and..a best in slot artifact for him. Venti is a Sub dps.VV and emblem which is bis for venti are supportive artifacts. A sub dps character with supportive artifacts..idk man its like Bennet with 4 set of crimson which works but not the ideal kit yk what i mean. I dont think its venti over . Hoyo must have something for him.

    • @El_DoorsGoblino
      @El_DoorsGoblino 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      They would rerun him more if it wasn't for the Chinese Law which is depressing

    • @jadecoolness101
      @jadecoolness101 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

      @@El_DoorsGoblino no they wouldn't. Every archon only reruns once per patch cycle. Hoyo does not care about china's law on femboys, or they would've altered Lyney before he released.

    • @seeker4924
      @seeker4924 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@El_DoorsGoblino I'm not sure I even want context

    • @ChishioAme
      @ChishioAme 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@seeker4924 TL;DR is China (apparently) has a law stating video game characters _must_ be readily identifiable, visually, as male or female and there's a rumor of dubious veracity that Hoyo was investigated because Venti is, well, more feminine than like half the female cast despite, ostensibly, being male. And it's supposedly why there's never been a femoby of his level since; even Lyney, despite his design, is still readily identifiable as male.

    • @iosis9324
      @iosis9324 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@ChishioAmeFreminet: 🧍
      I'll tell you a secret, Hoyoverse almost completely does not care about the Chinese Law, they violate them left and right. Seriously, I advise you to study what Hoyoverse cannot do as a Chinese company, but what they do anyway and do not receive any punishment for it, most likely due to the fact that they are literally officially part of the Chinese party.

  • @GabeIG
    @GabeIG 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    just like himeko/herta before pure fiction wish they would add a game mode where venti could shine again

    • @ihateads1023
      @ihateads1023 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      there will be a new game mode next patch(permenant end game), maybe he could be used there

    • @emery120
      @emery120 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      IMAGINARIUM THEATRE HOPEFULLY

    • @GabeIG
      @GabeIG 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@ihateads1023 Yeah I'm aware I saw leaks 2 months ago still looks very underwhelming after the livestream showcase not to mention we're getting less rewards overall​

    • @Uvkki
      @Uvkki 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@GabeIG We'll get slightly more primos for the same amount of work because you won't be doing 2 abysses a month but one Imaginary Theatre and one Abyss so I would say it's going to be more fun. Doing the same Abyss twice a month was stupid, tiring and boring.

  • @Kiana_Sirin
    @Kiana_Sirin 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    They could at least let us choose where to deploy the black hole rather than it just shoot wherever hoyo fated it to be

  • @italk2much
    @italk2much 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I love venti bro I just don’t know why they tend to dumb him down to some drunk and goofy guy (mostly in fanon but also in game) as well as nerfing his character in game- Aaa

    • @zoeb3573
      @zoeb3573 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      I genuinely think Venti is one of if not the best Archon, he's the perfect mix of genuinely caring for his people and wanting to help (Nahida), wanting to mingle with them and feel close to them (Furina) and allowing them to deal with their problems themselves when he trusts they can manage without him, allowing them to become stronger in the process (Zhongli). Unironically the best deity in the game. AND he's a goofy, silly guy? What more do you want?

    • @italk2much
      @italk2much 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zoeb3573 we stan venti fr

  • @AEZRIS
    @AEZRIS 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I love how I hear the phrase "You can never go wrong with an Archon" but it never applies to Venti because he got so damn nerfed

  • @pythiusplaysgames
    @pythiusplaysgames 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    I've loved Venti as a character so much and was pretty dismayed by the fact that Hoyo seemed dead set on reducing his usability. Some characters have had their roles expand over time, and I'm hoping that Hoyo revisits Venti to give him a second wind.

  • @marisolgarcia8182
    @marisolgarcia8182 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Something that should be added is that sucrose and c2 kasuha gain massive value with dendro do to the EM they provide making the better anemo unit for dendro teams

  • @SeravySensei
    @SeravySensei 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Venti is still my most used unit lol. Usually with Klee too. I'm pissed for Venti not pulling her bombs when he pulls other objects like enemy drops but they are that good even without the combo. At least outside f12 abyss but that place isn't fun anyway.

  • @irena4929
    @irena4929 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +90

    ONE WITH WIND AND CLOUD 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @user-yg9pl6ft6c
      @user-yg9pl6ft6c 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      yeah venti is wind archon after all of course he is the one with wind and cloud

    • @sunnypa7101
      @sunnypa7101 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's kazuha voice line.​@@user-yg9pl6ft6c

    • @cro1ssauntt
      @cro1ssauntt 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

      @@user-yg9pl6ft6c uh i'm pretty sure that's kazuha's voiceline not venti's

    • @Aman-km6cv
      @Aman-km6cv 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      FALLEN LEAVES, ADORN MY NIGHT 🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @Chilldays-vz1vq
    @Chilldays-vz1vq 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    i decided to pull for venti and I don't regret it at all he's still amazing in domains and anything else i use him for so i refuse to let him go off of my team but also its kinda hilarious how he kinda got the gojo treatment from hoyo because of how he was the strongest one so hoyo essentially tried to kill his usefulness

  • @kazuu_44
    @kazuu_44 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    honestly it’s sad how bad venti is. every archon is supposed to be the BEST of their element- and that’s true for every other archon.
    nahida; best dendro support, basically a requirement for dendro teams
    raiden; best electrons dps AND on field carry
    zhongli; best shielder overall and let’s be honest, the only really good and versatile geo character
    furina; literally redefined the meta, amazing buffer, amazing off field dmg/hydro app, etc
    venti; worse than a 4 star released at the same time
    while, yes, venti is technically still the best at crowd control.. that very same crowd control, and cc in general, has become so useless it’s literally better to use a random 4 star (sucrose) than the literal god of wind..
    even ayaka teams prefer sucrose and kazuha bc they provide more than JUST cc and a bit of er. plus with freeze, enemies are kept still, so you don’t need the lvl of cc venti provides. pull them to one spot quickly, freeze them, and kill them before they can get away

  • @GhostEmblem
    @GhostEmblem 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I feel like people are forgeting that aged like fine wine is a saying that came from aged like sour milk. This is the first time I've seen someone say not aged like fine wine when looking for an antithetical phrase.

  • @ayrtonsantana7185
    @ayrtonsantana7185 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    As a Venti main since day 1… yes it hurts to listen to the truth, however he will still be permanently in my part, I dream for a buff at least for his constellations. Even for lore sake, he deserves some more love.

    • @ayrtonsantana7185
      @ayrtonsantana7185 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Unnecessary exposition: I love the guy so much I even have him tattooed in my leg.

  • @danmarkdelarmente3990
    @danmarkdelarmente3990 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    i’m a Venti haver, never had Kazuha, and I use the Anemo Archon despite having these issues… regardless… Hoyoverse had to release immovable enemies because that’s just how busted and overpowered Venti really is, but Venti will forever be the best at sucking enemies and making them stay in one place. He had his fair share of his time, and he’s giving the other characters to shine. He’ll forever be an amazing character to me

  • @mirufiyu4810
    @mirufiyu4810 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I played because of Venti, C6-ed him. I felt my account was complete when I got all his cons for the past 3 years.

  • @j3zter618
    @j3zter618 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Loved this on your other channel. Did you decide to combine HSR and Genshin on this channel?

  • @Usernameis7
    @Usernameis7 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I have him and I don’t regret pulling him, he does make that scenario he’s good in really easy. As well as synergies with my favorite character, wanderer. I think his nerf was a very unique case but plenty of characters have shifted in and out of the meta. Ganyu for example was practically the best on release and now struggles just like venti. However in Ganyus case she is a dps so it’s a bit different. I would like to see a video about the other 2 OG archons because they’ve faded in and out of relevancy, especially Zhongli.

    • @GIOVI-C45
      @GIOVI-C45 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      wanderer main here how do you do a comp with both ? i was unsure if i should pull him since he is my favorite character but i missed the re runs

    • @Usernameis7
      @Usernameis7 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GIOVI-C45 well I just run him with Bennett and Faruzan, he benefits from both buffs as well and Scaras AoE encompasses ventis ult and the enemies being raised off the floor isn’t an issue so it’s convenient and practical.

    • @elisalopez9324
      @elisalopez9324 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      "especially zhongli" as if he isn't used with a lot of new units like Arlecchino, Neuvillette, Navia and Lyney 😂

    • @Usernameis7
      @Usernameis7 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@elisalopez9324 oh I don’t use zhongli, don’t have him, and furina is better anyways. But I guess those three archons can each be swapped out depending on the situation.

    • @isabellamartina1845
      @isabellamartina1845 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Zhongli is still absolutely relevant, his Abyss usage rate in 4.6 was 69.8%. With characters like Arlecchino who lowers her own HP or Neuvillette who relies on charged attacks he makes it for a veryyyy comfortable play since you don't need to worry about dying or getting interrupted, he's still the strongest shielder in the game.

  • @KCstark.
    @KCstark. 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Well xinagling, benny, xq did mature like fine wine.

  • @trollar8810
    @trollar8810 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I mean honestly I just use venti in every abyss 8-11 as well as for exploration to just skip half the puzzles with venti+kazuha
    I agree that in abyss 12 he isnt the most useful character, but as someone who pulled him in 2.6 i think and - I do not regret the pull one bit

  • @whydoineedname4932
    @whydoineedname4932 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Became a venti main in 4.2 and am proud of myself :D

  • @NeuvilletteHydroDragon
    @NeuvilletteHydroDragon 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    We are still waiting for a buff for venti in the Khanri'ah rebellion era

  • @eff-fume
    @eff-fume 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As someone who played Moryana since 2.0, without Kokomi or Kazuha (even if i had them) I have noticed how often I have benched this team since 3.0 for sure. I always thought freeze was basically inviolable, esp after the release of Kokomi and Kazuha, and while these two still make it manageable every other rotation, if these two are not on your account, the team is benched or a pain to play. I do think this make the overall game healthier but damn, I really was upped by mihoyo. The flaws were always laid bare, and having a team be this strong for over 2 years is still pretty insane, but of course some variety is necessary.

  • @Alte.Kameraden
    @Alte.Kameraden 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    It's an issue with anemo in general sadly. As these nerfs also effected many others including Anemo Traveler, Jean and Sucrose. Now the best thing Anemo Traveler and Jean can do with their Anemo pick up abilities is maybe throw Klee's mines into enemy faces. Sucrose used to be a great alternative to Venti as well, now I almost never use her as her primary plusses were for the same reason Venti was also but on top of sucking people up she'd debuff them as well.
    They badly need to readjust weights of enemies. I don't care if Venti was OP back then. It was the whole fun appeal of anemo itself was the vacuum cleaner ability on most of the early anemo peeps.

    • @Uvkki
      @Uvkki 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Jean you could say got "buffed" with release of Furina. She's amazing partner with her if you need healing and for people who didn't decide to pull for Xianyun but wanted to run Xiao+Furina team, she's perfect and can wear VV which already makes her good unit. Sucrose will always be there to replace Kazuha's place if you don't have him also because she can wear VV and on top of that Thrilling Tales is also the option. With Venti it's tricky, he sends enemies flying so you can't hit them, but still if you ask any player who isn't hating Venti if he's still good, they will say he is but in specific scenarios. Kazuha is obviously currently must pull. And let's be honest, the only good traveler is dendro one. Other than supportive units we still have Xiao who got buffed or Scara who's just good in his best team. Anemo is already amazing element but as we can see vacuuming enemies didn't go through with other Anemo units.

    • @Aman-km6cv
      @Aman-km6cv 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dunno bout you but sucrose C6 is still the best buffer for showcase teams along with C1 mona.

  • @D4rkSpaze
    @D4rkSpaze 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Maybe in imaginary permanent combat would make him useable again because there were small enemies shown that can be vacuumed

  • @xvgarnet
    @xvgarnet 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I use my venti to clear floors 9-11 of the abyss. For floor 12 he's pretty useless since they make sure to put bosses on both sides and he's not good with them. They really made sure to nerf him to the ground lol.

  • @xRey7anx
    @xRey7anx 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Venti is my first five character and he was my first main and now he switched from main to support and he will never be replaced

  • @reijiyamamoto9407
    @reijiyamamoto9407 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Venti just needs a pure fiction version of abyss. He will be absolute meta in that but we only get that during events.
    And also great at speedrunning floor 9-11. My Childe Venti Albedo are still my go to characters for floor 9-11.

  • @KamiKaZeJeremy
    @KamiKaZeJeremy 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i like your presentation and your voice very narrative SUBCRIBED ⭐

  • @steffy23456
    @steffy23456 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    When I explore, I love using Venti and Kazuha

  • @theklee6928
    @theklee6928 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "something had to be done" crazy lines

  • @yachtman87
    @yachtman87 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You've made a sublime "watch while having dinner" video and im only 8 minutes in. Well done

    • @monikaaaax3
      @monikaaaax3 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      that's how you know a channel is good. If it makes good background noise, it's top tier

  • @flaviogames-mc4yi
    @flaviogames-mc4yi 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hoyoverse: venti is strong beacuse of his burst that group enemys, thats why people will pull him
    Also hoyoverse: lest nerf him creating enemys that cant be grouped
    ( sorry for bad english im not from a country that speaks it )

  • @jettisonyurei8809
    @jettisonyurei8809 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Venti and albedo with a few swirlable elements is very good for both combat and exploration in a team

  • @Jinni-iras17514
    @Jinni-iras17514 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    hold on man. There's an new "endgame". You might need to update this

    • @bumerang6525
      @bumerang6525 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The new mode has a Vigor system that lets you run the same character only twice and i assume there is gonna be a lot of small enemies in the first stages. I can't wait that to come out ngl

  • @emranao
    @emranao 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    7:05 everyone said kazuha is useless and one of the worst 5 stars on his release. Now, everyone uses him regardless they like him or not :))

  • @neoinfinity5204
    @neoinfinity5204 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As Sucrose Mainer i realized kazowa isn’t really that important againt venti the problem is that the cute alchemist was plenty enough to replace him making kazowa by extension more of meta focus one to pull later.

  • @fran99080
    @fran99080 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i think its worth noting that back then both childe and xiao in 1.1 and 1.2 were basically made to NOT synergize with venti which is pretty insane as they would otherwise be literally perfect pairings

  • @omgkawaiiangel2
    @omgkawaiiangel2 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i will forever be a venti main, no matter what happens. i hope i’ll get him c6 one day

  • @azuarc
    @azuarc 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have never seen the clip at 0:55 before...is that Vennessa?

  • @sizedoesntmeaneverything4157
    @sizedoesntmeaneverything4157 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    10:49 how are you doing those insta-charged shots with Ganyu??

    • @baka5440
      @baka5440 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      C6 ganyu😊

  • @bdanBdode
    @bdanBdode 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Dragonspine music 😭

  • @bagel_ven
    @bagel_ven วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've been playing since like 2021 and i can be proud to say im still a venti main after almost 3 years

  • @SagaFraga
    @SagaFraga 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’ve been playing since day 1.
    Venti, Shene, Ganyu, and Kokomi is a supremely underrated kit.

  • @megann1416
    @megann1416 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    bro i just rewatched your lie in april . i got jumpscared by the chopin piece halfway through the video 😭😭😭
    ALSO !!! about venti being good for exploration, xianyun is also amazing for exploration. if you time it right, you can use her skill and be constantly either sprinting or "jumping" with her skill - either forwards or upwards !!! she also heals and enables plunging atks. i only pulled for her because she's drop dead gorgeous and it was time for me to learn how to use swirl (finally after 3 years) but she's very useful in all my teams and i can't explore the world without her

  • @Pandiculate
    @Pandiculate 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Venti would be good for exploration if they didn't add a gadget that essentially replaced him entirely.
    He's still good for abyss since hoyoverse loves to spread small enemies that hurl stuff at you. But that's essentially all he's good for, at least to me.
    I was definitely miffed about the anti synergy with Klee. That was the only reason I got her. Benched her for Diluc later. :/

  • @TerdSmasher303
    @TerdSmasher303 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Im happy I got him right away in 1.0 for I dislike chasing down enemy groups, made early abyss super easy too. Like I cleared abyss 12 when my max level team was 70 and team stats were around 30% crit and 100% cdmg and the mains on that team where Venti and Klee and those two have go me to clear floor 12 in every version of abyss pretty much haha.

  • @uribove
    @uribove 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Not to mention: Venti is one of the only - if not the only - anemo unit that CANNOT displace Aloy bombs 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Some1The4Got10
    @Some1The4Got10 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don't care if he is "nerfed". I am pulling for him on his next banner.

  • @elitelitwick2860
    @elitelitwick2860 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Venti deserves to have a secondary charged attack that gaives a small cc effect or something. His C1 could even have increased the area of it slightly with the extra arrows.

  • @xparadox8452
    @xparadox8452 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    You know, crowd control ability is influenced by character level, so if the rumors about being able to level up a character from lv.90 to lv.100 are true, perhaps Venti will get some sort of “buff”, at least on his crowd control.

    • @usmanya5110
      @usmanya5110 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i thought it was swirls that get buffed by beinh level 90.

    • @AllMightyKingBowser
      @AllMightyKingBowser 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@usmanya5110 enemy cannot be stunned when being vacuumed by Anemo abilities like Anemo Traveler Burst if the enemy is 20 levels higher than you.
      A lvl 60 Traveler can't stun lvl 81 enemies for example, so they will keep attackng you even when inside the tornado from Burst.

  • @wyndair
    @wyndair 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Venti said it himself he was the weakest of all archons and Hoyoverse made sure to hold it truthfully sadly.
    This is why I believe his best play style is by using sacrificial bow to Abuse his Tap E and Charge E while keeping the black hole with still high attack 2000+ to still do decent basics for driving if using as main dps.
    Either that or a physical venti with 3000 atk and the standard banner bow with the Sumeru anemo set to boost charge and normals.

  • @andrinaleong4079
    @andrinaleong4079 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looking back, I no longer bring Kazuha, Zhongli into the abyss until recently, Zhongli comes back into the game with Arlecchino.

  • @aliakaza4938
    @aliakaza4938 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think the main issue is venti's weapon and his cc going against him , unlike kazuha who is a sword user he can go close to enemies and pull them towards him and the enemies will stay in the middle of his burst , while venti he is a bow user ,so what happens is he needs to go back a distance and use his burst ,doing so the enemies end up coming towards venti and they escape his burst , so venti won't even be able to deal damage , pretty much useless against heavier enemies , i hope they fix that cause i really want to use him again 😕

  • @-Shuriko-
    @-Shuriko- 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As an Anemo boys collector, I still want him :D

  • @amarait2
    @amarait2 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    back in inazuma i had a feeling that Venti will be the last one if im going to collect all the archons.
    also i didnt feel that difficulty spike in inazuma at all, guess people didnt build their characters right even back then.

  • @elisehaynes9811
    @elisehaynes9811 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember being so excited when I got Venti, because I love his character and he would be useful... :(

  • @sigma20xx
    @sigma20xx 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They had to nerf Venti. He was way to strong.😅 But what they should've done was raised his multipliers to keep him relative. I still use Venti to quickly clear floors 9 through 11.

  • @GenesiisDavid
    @GenesiisDavid 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember really wanting him and then when I got him most inuzuma enemies couldn't be lifted up lol.

  • @Nunubotz2
    @Nunubotz2 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    dendro was the death of sooooooooo many characters

    • @lum_berry111
      @lum_berry111 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      but it also made characters that were weak pre 3.0 usable. i.e: miko, shinobu, keqing, thoma

  • @hyukajunhui
    @hyukajunhui 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    venti is the reason i played genshin. triple-crowned him and gave him the best artifacts i could get no matter how unlucky i am with artifacts. he isn't leaving my team even after i get kazuha. it's just sad that they nerfed him. he deserves better

  • @DrunkMagicTaco
    @DrunkMagicTaco 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As a venti main im kinda sad....also i skipped neuvi for venti and i do not regret it!!

  • @Play-Ghost
    @Play-Ghost 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Now, a video on the cryo element? It's kind of slowly dyin to electro hydro and pyro

  • @pinkvivi9345
    @pinkvivi9345 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love Venti. So glad I got him. He’s incredible

  • @alitheakorogane
    @alitheakorogane 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Venti main here. I still used him even though I have Kazuha. He shines in Spiral Abyss Floor 9-11 (especially that damned tower defense, the 4.7 Floor 11 Second Phase was a pain).❤

  • @seris9488
    @seris9488 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If the leaks about the lvl 100 are true, i hope they take that chance to give some characters a new passive to make them come back
    It's not like they'll lose anything if they buff a weak character, we're just going to go pulling him, which some of us would not be motivated to before

  • @leiathrix
    @leiathrix 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    nah, I'd swirl 🍃 my venti feels great! I use him as a hypercaccy main dps.

  • @asheclips3784
    @asheclips3784 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    it’s so frustrating to me, because venti is the only archon that was bested in his own field. zhongli is still the best shield, despite many shield characters getting released. raiden is still arguably the best electro battery and driver despite different electro characters having gotten released. nahida is the best dendro applier, despite many new dendro characters being released. furina is currently the best hydro sub-dps, if not the best sub-dps/support overall (rivaling that of even bennett).
    and venti is the only archon that was power crept almost immediately. he is a good anemo support, yes, but is easily replaceable by kazuha, xianyun or sucrose.
    it doesn’t make sense, because they still do character reruns. so if they didn’t make his kit as lacking as they did (in comparison to other supports), he’d most likely be a similar situation to raiden, who has great selling banners on each of her reruns. and so does zhongli and nahida. and i’m certain furina will as well.

  • @Deeznat69
    @Deeznat69 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    He's too broken in 1.0 he can even suck players artifacts in domains into the endless pit 😂😂

  • @grey4612
    @grey4612 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Once lvl 100 is released i hope they give venti a new passive that buffs team mate based on his em/ or his dmg or some new form of cc

  • @Deeznat69
    @Deeznat69 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You use chopin etude op 25 no 5 we are bestie now ❤

  • @thae1532
    @thae1532 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They should have just let the enemies be able to still perform their attacks from inside his black hole as the only nerf

  • @ChimeraLotietheBunny
    @ChimeraLotietheBunny 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I always love my Boy Venti regardless

  • @WATER_3300
    @WATER_3300 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Somehow I feel in future venti will come out the strongest after completing a certain story quest maybe we will get a boost like after that story quest we claim a power in which his ultimate can now suck all the enemies including azhdaha like massive ones 😂😂😂

  • @Dreaming_Stray
    @Dreaming_Stray 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel like the earlier 5 star characters need a buff. The newer characters have impressively animated bursts, but I feel like the early characters could use some of that love

  • @spectatorhomi
    @spectatorhomi 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just hope that Venti gets a buff in Snezhnaya. It's his neighboring country and the tsaritsa was his friend.
    If not a buff, just give him a huge role in the lore.
    I really hope we go back to Mondstadt before going to Khaenri'ah

  • @hex4115
    @hex4115 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Still waiting for his rerun

  • @looiyuanjieyuanjie1451
    @looiyuanjieyuanjie1451 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In the near future, it will be jiyan's turn, god i hope it does not happen to him since he is great.

  • @cs2krissy2
    @cs2krissy2 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think its also important to note that there are players who whale on characters, spending a lot of money on one or even multiple characters, raising them to god-like powers, if then those same users would go on to say "this game is boring, the mobs/bosses are too easy for us", that is also something that the game devs would think about, its an impossible balance to walk, f2p accounts wont have the "best" 5* characters and weapons, they're gonna have an easy time leveling characters, beating bosses vs. Whales who can clear spiral abyss by soloing a character on each side. Welkin may seem cheap to pay so you get more primogems but paying £5 every month over 4 years, thats £240, thats more than you'd spend on a game on a 3ds or some steam games (im not gonna get into the precious crystal gems that have a 1:1 transformation rate to primogems)
    I am guessing to say at most it would be about 30-45% of their user base that at least buys welkin blessing, more than 3 or 4 times since they've started playing.
    Saving primogems takes so long, and sometimes the characters aren't even guaranteed, if the game devs don't raise the world building and difficulty in game play, some people may even regret investing all that money ($1000's), balancing that while also not alienating players who are free to play, they may be choosing to tilt the scales towards their bag 💰

  • @SeravySensei
    @SeravySensei 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Dendro element not being swirlable was only a nail in the Dendro element's coffin for me, not Venti's lol. It's still me second least often used element only above Geo.

    • @usmanya5110
      @usmanya5110 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      well for dendro they made it up with the deepwood memories set.

    • @kazekori9593
      @kazekori9593 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      kid named hyperbloom:

    • @A_Random_Nazuna_Fan
      @A_Random_Nazuna_Fan 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Wait till he realises dendro has multiple T0 Units

    • @stepbrother.69
      @stepbrother.69 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      thats just u. dendro is just objectively one of the more dominant elements in the meta right now

    • @Nickk_idkk
      @Nickk_idkk 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      dendro is one of the most prominent elements in the meta though??

  • @MineMineMineMineMineMineMine
    @MineMineMineMineMineMineMine 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I didn't start playing Genshin Impact until around 1.5yrs ago, and only sparingly (I'm talking 30-60minutes every 6 months LOL, it wasn't until last month I finally got out of Mondstadt, the starting city!!!!) Even though Venti has been nerfed, I still pulled this fun lil' guy. He's currently on my main team, though once Nilou gets her rerelease and I finally have my full Bloom team he'll get booted to another team comp. He's still super fun to play with :D

  • @jellymoon793
    @jellymoon793 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If ever i need to save 1 arcon that would be venti (waiting for his rerun)

  • @eckysgaming
    @eckysgaming 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You forgot about the fact that when Kazuha first came out people didn't like him much
    They were all saying "oh a worst version of Venti" or "He need C6 to be a DPS"
    Little did they realize they made the biggest mistake ever and iirc after Kazuha banner was gone they started seeing how strong Kazuha really was and wished for a rerun for so long and it took 6-8 months for his first rerun