Major Oil Leak Mystery - Cub Cadet Lawn Tractor - Kohler Command Engine
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- This Cub Cadet HDS3185 has developed a major oil leak. It only leaks when it's smoking hot and will run for weeks without leaking at all. Let's fix it, and then fix it again...
0:00 Intro
4:55 Front Seal Leak
12:00 Leaking Again
22:12 Carb Rebuild
31:46 Finish Carb, First Start
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Need one from the 70’s Bud!!! Way more reliable and built like tanks
I have 30 cubs brother lol..just got a free 107 with a stuck valve I will put my cubs up against any new junk...I usually just pressure test them and find leaks..
Anything yard equipment wise built in the 70’s is better than the garbage made today.
Probably true, tanks aren't actually that reliable.
@@thomas316 he said “way more reliable and built like tanks”. He didn’t say anything about tanks being reliable.
Heck yeah! I got a 1980 Yardman for free from my bosses friend and may burn 1/2 a quart ever time i use it but damn is it reliable!
You forgot to mention the excitement of spraying carb cleaner in one of the holes and it hitting you in the face when it comes out another. Thanks
Every time
Yep and then your lips go numb for a couple hours.
@@hedge685 Lips what lips
I know how that is. It happened to me a few times and i couldn't see straight for a couple of hours
Yep. A face shield is definitely a good idea.
LMFAO When you scanned down to THE FLATTENED rain spout, picked it up & THREW IT BACK DOWN. GREAT DAG FOOTAGE AT THE END, NOTHING LIKE A GOOD DAG.
What a lovely way to fight off a hangerover, a cup of coffee, some biscuits, chilling on the sofa watching a sympathetic guy working on an old lawn mower.
Lmao, kids are hilarious.
"How did it get in your mouth?"
"I don't even know!"
thats what catholic priests teach the kids to say
As a small engine mechanic, I feel your pain with these turds. I probably fix oil leaks on cubs 10 times a year. Keep an eye on the blow-by. Alot of time the seals fail because a head gasket has started leaking internally, making too much pressure and cooking the motor from the inside with hot gasses.
Are there not honda engine swaps? If I had to redo that engine I would think about a repower... with something at least decent.
@@aitorbleda8267 💰💰💰💰💰💰
@@aitorbleda8267 almost the entire predator series of engine from HF are Honda clones. They are no where near the same, but also half of the price of a Honda. I swapped a spent Tecumseh on a snowblower to the Predator 125 and it’s still working great.
Ohhhhh..dont say it! And it shoulda been changed the second time because it was on the bench disassembled or just for giggles.
@@Name-vu1kn honda engines are worth it though. you can even hand it down to the next generation. thats how bullet proof their small engines are
At least Kohler is considerate enough to provide access to all their engine repair manuals on their website. I have an LT1045 I bought used in good condition, $50. Rebuilt the deck spindles, new pto clutch, head & valve cover gaskets-runs good, satisfied with it.
You have to get Cubs information from their maker…Murray.
@@lookingbehind6335 Cub Cadet is made by MTD…
@@lookingbehind6335 Believe Murray went out of business a few years back.
Mustie 1 and Wes In the Same Morning, Gonna Be A Good Day Mater
Two things made me laugh, the headlight lens cover falling off, and Wes the human Pup at the end, ruff ruff. What a great funny and clever dog you have Wes.
Dear R.
👍👌👏 Same here.
Best regards luck and health.
23:12 "If you don't have a fancy ultrasonic cleaner like Mustie1"... You take advantage of your wife being out and stick it in the dishwasher on the hottest wash cycle, sparkle, sparkle... 🤣🤣🤣
Excellent work as always, it's a pleasure to watch you work. Thanks for letting us join in.
Yeah, also great if you like gasoline and oil residue on your cutlery.
Dishwasher detergent and especially the after wash rinse agent is lye based and super harsh on aluminum
All of the TH-cam contributors I watch all of their own lifetime experience and they have equipment the equipment they use and show us show us the way forward check out some other check out other contributors and add to your own lifetime of experience and equip yourself accordingly thanks for another great upload
@@12345NoNamesLeft notice how I didn't say anything about using dishwasher detergent, I only said use the hottest wash cycle
@@the_hate_inside1085 I like the taste of gas/oil. In fact I drink gas and piss napalm 🤣
Nice to see Max running around like a mad 'un at the end!
Just finished repairing oil leaks on a 3hp horizontal shaft Briggs & Stratton engine after multiple attempts. I’ve torn more of these engines apart than I can remember and this one was truly a battle. Leaked oil from everywhere, so completely tore the engine down to replace every gasket and seal. Put it back together to discover a leak from the oil drain plug that had never been touched. Then the brand new side cover gasket leaked, then the breather leaked. It’s the simplest things sometimes that are the biggest battles…I feel your pain
The Florida pool pump motor bearing repair guy approved ! that was good info Wes
I went looking for that guy and couldn't find him.
@@EFCasualWhen Service Calls Longwood 32750
Don't you hate it when you intuitively know that the problem you found isn't the actual problem. But we always hope anyway :-)
Especially on our own stuff.
Old trick (actually a Designed in feature) from my days at Lister-Petter Diesels: during assembly the crankshaft oil seal is pressed in to the mid position of the hole in the housing. The seal fitting tool, sold as a service aid, is shallower so the seal isn't pressed in so far so the seal rides on a new area of the crankshaft. If you don't use the tool but drive the seal all the way home the seal still ends up on a new piece of shaft. It seemed like a great way to go about the seal replacement to me.
I have an early 2000s cub cadet 3204, that thing is absolutely bulletproof, all it needs is gas fill ups and oil changes.
The commentary between you and your son adds a lot of humor to these videos, on top of your sarcasm
3:09 story of my life keeping so many old Fords running. when people ask me to work on one and ask about required tools, I just tell them get everything you can get your hands on including 1/4 drive sockets for the weird /16 and /32 sizes like the stupid sensors that mount behind the engine near the top.
Good theory, but hopeless: you will always need one more tool you didn't bring along.
Lot's of fun to watch. Thanks for including the carb work.
Great to see both the carb rebuild and the pup playing so happy!
Two weeks later...
Wes: "This cake tastes funny. Tastes like carb cleaner."
And a little grassy.
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It's like king cake with an o-ring instead of a baby.
High carb recipe!
Tastes like victory. 😎
When you decorate a cake, do you say..”this is like forming a gasket” ? Thanks Wes!
Every time!
@@WatchWesWork Well it ain't much different
All the "consumer grade" mowers are basically the same now, even John Deere. They're built to a specific price point to be competitive in the market. Basically, that means we get junk.
You can say that again. My new Husqvarna rider has a plastic rear end. You can bet I’ll be checking that if I buy another lawnmower.
My baby gravely would be fine if it would quit chucking drive belts. Once the warranty goes out, it’s gone. I hate to say it, but I may have to go electric.
@@jc5445
Waste of time and money. All electric mowers are garbage. You will spend double the amount of money on electric. Replacing the batteries every other year if they last that long. The motors might make it a year with very light use.
@@jc5445 My 14 year old John Deere came with, as I recall, Kevlar (aramid fiber) belts. Can't get a Kevlar belt from J-D any more. It will wear out the black polyester belts so I had to replace them at least every other year. Finally went back to the Kevlar belts a couple years ago and they are doing fine. The problem with mine is it has a two-pulley idler belt tensioner on the transaxle drive and a black polyester belt doesn't have the flexibility to pass thru those two pulleys without building up heat which wears out the belt too soon. The Kevlar belt is more flexible and runs thru those two pulleys without building up heat, so they last longer. Tractor Supply is a good source for Kevlar belts. Can also get them from Amazon, but have to make sure they are Kevlar reinforced instead of the polyester reinforced kind.
Besides being educational and encouraging, Wes's videos always make me smile :D
"Mommy, why does this cake taste funny?" lol.
Donno. Ask your dad... 🤣
YOU should have put mom why does this cake taste like carb cleaner ??? . that wood have bin funny LOL !!! .
The great Wes goes from pick up truck to Military big truck to lawn tractor!! Most versatile mechanic there is!!! Oh and don’t forget the dishwasher fix!!!! And if you think Cub Cadet is junk, get a residential Husqvarna!!! Pure junk! Nothing redeeming about them
He is very talented and eloquent to boot!
only thing missing is working on his son's toys
HuskyBarney comment: That's no lie!!!
Great video and you had the family in it too! Thanks Wes it was great to see your family fun.
Wes - thanks for taking the time to record the carburetor rebuild. It’s always useful to see someone take it apart before trying it yourself. Thanks for the great content!
I'm surprised you don't have one of those sonic carb cleaners. Great video.
Always a pleasure watching you work, no matter what you are fixing!!! Thanks Wes and Family!!!!
Made my Sunday morning! Another great job Wes! 👍🏻
I feel your pain , being a mechanic is a blessing and a curse. Curse is it's always something with our personal stuff
Glad you included the carb rebuild! They pose a great mystery to some people…😉
I was getting nervous without a video this weekend. Thank you.
Same thing here
I loved when he closed the hood, headlight cover fell off and the engine just perceptively roughened up at idle! You can't stage this stuff.
Hi, what a wonderful family. Many thanks from UK.
Best Sunday in a while. Wes and Mustie1. Love these two channels.
"Tell me a scenario where you would replace the pickup tube and not want to replace the O-ring." when you don't feel like running back to the parts store for the 5th time on the same project
Hope the nails didn’t dry to fast and you got the cake pan back inside in time!
I actually bought my own for the shop. Prevents WWIII!
I was expecting Wes i made a cake but it tastes funny.
@@WatchWesWork I was gonna say you need to throw that pan off the planet. Then deny, deny, deny. 😆
@@63flight Now that is how it is done.
@@WatchWesWork I knew you didn't use one of her pans lol! The next video would have been of your funeral service lol
Thank you and lovely to see mrs Wes and the stunning Maxwell xx and obviously the kiddo fantastic keep them coming
Thanks Wes for showing the carb rebuild!
Now your gonna have to polish that headlight cover!
The Cub Cadets built by International Harvester were excellent. IH sold off the Cub Cadet Division in 1980 to MTD. MTD continued build Cub Cadets using the IH design until 1990. Then the MTD designing came into play. Thus, the 1990 and after tractors, have went down hill. The 3185 was built in 1998 came rolled out of the Factory with a B&S 18HP Vanguard Engine. The Kohler Command 20 is obviously a re-power.
Just when I thought I couldn’t enjoy your content enough, you post a wholesale video involving the family! Awesome stuff!
Got a Kohler command in a Craftsman tractor. Bought it new in '98, still runs awesome. Gonna jump on it later and mow. Hate to replace something so loyal.
Wes: I have an oil leak so I remove the engine to fix it
Me: Buy more towels for garage floor
With the engine apart it would be nice to have an Eddy Current Tester to check the block for cracks. I have found many cracks with Eddy Current that you couldn't see with the eye or a magnifying glass.
You're in my wheel house on this one. I had a friend give me four junk mowers that didn't run a few years ago, and I used them to teach myself small engines. I have gotten three of them running so far, and just have to rethread the spark plug tube on the other, though I can't find the proper size tap anywhere. Once everyone knew I liked working on them, they started giving me their old junk. My current fleet includes 4 riding mowers, 3 push mowers, a 250cc go kart, a tiller, a pressure washer, 2 weed eaters, and a compressor. I have 2 more weedeaters and 2 chainsaws that are future projects. None of them ran when I got them, and I only paid for the pressure washer.
Hiya Wes. Love the recycle bin, muffin container, plastic seal installer. I do it myself all the time. Works a treat.
You feeler gauge has one that is brass. That is the 0.10in that is used for setting air gaps on small engines.
5 thumbs up! I noticed that, but never thought!. Im a moron..i cant believe i never questioned why it was there..my brass feeler is. 010
Some people will use a business card as a feeler gauge between the flywheel and the coil; keeps the coil straight while tightening. Works for me.
That dog makes the videos incredible. It is like Wes has his own Levi!
Rest In Peace Levi
Thanks for including the carb cleaning. They're so tricky it's always nice to see it being done well. I've got 4 on my suzuki. Cleaned them 4 times and it wasn't enough. Finally had them ultrasonic cleaned.
I loved her reaction right near the end when Wes closed the lid on the lawnmower and the plastic lens fell off the lights. Priceless!!!
I love these videos about random stuff getting fixed around the house because these are problems everyone has from time to time. Channels that just focus on like auto repair and nothing else just arnt as interesting to me…..
John Deere ear muffs on a Cub Cadet. Like driving a Fiero wearing a Ferrari jacket.
Thanks for the video Wes. Have a great day.
Thanks, I often have the same issue working on old junk, fix one thing, just to see too new problems. You are not alone..
Hufflepuff Mowing service! Interchangeable T's and M's, novel merchandise idea😂
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It's hard to call that lawn tractor junk when it's over 20 years old and needs regular maintenance. My Cub 3205 is the same machine but has the liquid cooled Kawasaki 20hp twin cylinder. Still running great 22 years now. Bought new cost $7k back then. Heavy duty deck and frame, power steering, adjustable steering wheel and seat track, throttle lock, hydrostatic transmission, differential lock, tail lights, definitely not junk compared to the crap the big box stores sell nowadays.
Agreed This is actually a model that is pretty well known for being very reliable No matter what engine is in it. This one probably has a bazillion hours on it and looks to be fairly well used. Stuff happens when they get older and well worn in.
Anything that old is going to need a little TLC
Trouble is most people don't know how or are too lazy to do it. Which works for guys like us
Hard to believe you're trashing Cub Cadet; especially given the age of your mower. I'd say it's held up pretty well. I do enjoy your channel, your knowledge and attention to detail,
I had a John Deere garden tractor with a 17 hp single cylinder engine. The JD dealer that the same engine was in the same tractor for about 7 years. Only the sheetmetal changed. It was a Koehler. Plowed snow every winter, cut grass all summer. About onr acre. Never put a dime into the engine except for a Mobil one oil change and filter once a year. Grass about an acre, snow total 85 inches the las year . Loved that tractor. That was Connecticut 1979 to 1999. Oops ! Did replace the 4 ft. Plow blade skids once.
Man I love your channel Wes, you remind me of a guy I used to pull wrenches with years back. Keep up the great content!
Great video has it all, carb rebuild, wife, children and playing with pets. Thank you
So funny to hear Wes call Kohler "jerk offs"! I keep laughing about that. We all feel the same way. Haha
Yep. Brigg & Stratton is recovering from bankruptcy which I'm glad to see they are being successful at. Say what you want about B&S. I've used them on small engine implements for many years and they have shown me a good reliability.
And for next week’s episode we’re fix’n downspouts! Lol
Is there anything you can't fix? Your knowledge is awe inspiring Wes.
I ran over EVERY DOWNSPOUT end my father put out, I got such a laugh 😂😆 it really brought back some memories!
An easy hint I thought you would know, use a business card to set the coil air gap. One card and done.
Cub cadet is so easy to work on, 400 bolts, 16 wires, brute force and ignorance works every time.
Thanks for sharing.
I usually go with a triple thickness of regular paper. Every now and then the card or paper catches. The paper rips up pretty easy if it gets stuck.
Well there's your problem: it's a modern cub cadet with a Kohler commander
Another great video glad to see you and the family always a pleasure
A happy puppy makes everyone's day better.
As Taryl Dactal says, " there's your dinner "
35:41 Thanks for watching..
Those cute little vixens with their innocent smiles have a way of changing the subject and disarming you at the same time.
Great repair video Wes, you got lots of patience , I know quite a few people who would keep adding oil to fix the problem.
These Mustie small engine type videos are always welcome for something different, change is good.
Thank you for showing the Carb Rebuild :)
Awesome video guys, thanks for sharing.
Hey, Wes. Something I would point out about John Deere. I am long since retired, but; a guy I grew up with was a John Deere "guy". He told me that a good many of the tractors/mowers/home owner's equipment have transmissions that are non-replaceable. The transmissions, at the time of our conversation; were not even available to authorized John Deere dealers. With a service life of somewhere around 200 hours (or thereabouts) makes them, in effect; disposable equipment. As I am retired, I really have no way of confirming or denying. But, I have always valued his opinion. It would be prudent for anyone in the market for something of that type to research a great deal. The John Deere name does not guarantee high quality, necessarily. Enjoy your channel and watching you work. Wish like hell I was still able to!
18:25 All the oil distribution depends on a shitty little plastic hook that looks wayyy to thin and they screw you for an o ring.
Reducing costs increases profits, but let's at least make the thing usable.
It seems like an o ring groove to seal the two halves would have been really simple to do.
I almost bought one of those but changed my mind after watching your video. Thanks for the info.
looks like you got it fixed. I have a 3204 for a MTD built mower I like it its fairly simple to work on compared to some other mowers I have messed with it has its quirks but overall has been a good mower. Great video
For $80 that carb kit should have come with a coffee and a muffin!
I always find the cheapest carb I can for those, and replace them about once every two years (always have one on the shelf). I gave up rebuilding them years ago. In my opinion they just aren't worth the time, money or effort to rebuild.
Unless something is warped ([cough] B&S flow jet carbs [cough]) it only takes 20 minutes to disassemble and clean a carb - 30 if you have to find the heat gun and the plastic dispensing needle tip to get compressed air into a particularly stubborn passage that wont' clear. Also, if you have to clean your carbs so often, maybe try NOT putting sugar in the gas!
@@gorak9000 yeah, well, you be you. I personally don't have the time to break out cleaning gear, tear apart a carb, pay basically the cost of a new carb for a rebuild kit, and then slam it back together, when I can just replace it in about 5 minutes, for the same cost.
I bought a Chinese replacement carb for my Husq. string trimmer. Only a couple bucks more than the carb kit from Husq, and don't have to go thru all the hassle of cleaning and putting a kit in the old one. I just throw them away when they start acting up. Amazon is a good source for the replacement carb.
I too am working on a Cub today. No start issues, so I’m definitely not pulling an engine out! I’d rather not have at least haha. Glad you’re getting it done!
Thanks for sharing this, great evening to you all.
I love it when someone says that the mower is a piece of junk with 700+ hours and looks like it's never been cleaned once before! It's lived it's life in bad conditions and I'm surprised it's lasted to 700 hours! Take care of your equipment and it'll take care of you.
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yep! 👍👍👍👍
Wes is lucky that his wife mows the lawn. Mine didn't and I had a beautiful craftsman lawn tractor at the time.
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My JD 757 with about the same engine, it had an intermittent oil leak, never lost much oil at a time but enough to make a mess, I tightened the crankcase bolts a little on the bottom and it stopped for awhile, I finally too it to a shop and they dome what you did for this. Thank you for sharing your work.
I have a 42" Cub Cadet (Kohler single cylinder) from around 2002. I beat the heck out of it mowing up in the woods, steep hills, and large lawn. The hydrostatic drive finally started slipping, but I changeg the oil and got another five years out of it. Now it needs a hydrostatic rebuild (new motor and pump) which looks like not too bad a job. Just no time to do it. I'm pretty happy with it, since I got great deal on it. It was a unit returned to Lowes, and price was knocked down.
I would call that the “non drive end”(NDE), and of course the other side is the “drive end”(DE). Your welcome 😂😂😂
But both ends are drive ends on that thing. One end drives the tractor and the other drives the mower.
They sell the seals as PTO side and flywheel side.
@@farmerbill6855 I totally missed that coupling on the flywheel end the first time through. Had to go back and watch the engine extraction again. Thanks.
@@macsmachine2609 no problem, it's set up just like my JD. I go with this side and that side when I'm getting parts.
Automotive standard practice refers to the Flywheel end as "rear" and the Pulley end as "front".
OEMs may use their own unique identifier labels simply because they can, and because not everyone is aware that there is a correlation system in place already.
Wes must be hard to get mad at such a cute wife
You'd think so wouldn't you...
@@WatchWesWork if she has a single girlfriend or sister hook me up
Thanks for including the carburetor part!! Great video!!
You guys are such a lovely couple. Please keep it that way.
Great stuff Wes as always. Cheers from Eastern Ontario 🇨🇦.
Love that "stick-to-it-ive-ness". Nice job. On those gaps for the magnet, take a 3.5" x 5" index card, fold it in half and stick it in between the parts while tightening the bolts. Have used this on many small engines and have never had a problem. Alot quicker/easier than trying to measure w/a gap gauge, hold onto the part, and tighten bolts all at the same time. Again, really nice job. Enjoyed the carb video. Thanks!
Kohler engines were made in Kohler, Wisconsin, until 2019 when they moved their engine division to Hattiesburg, Miss.. Toured Kohler once, very cool. Also close enough to get a Spotted Cow Wes.
How did that get in your mouth, "I dont know..." said absolutely everyone! Thanks for sharing, Charles
Thanks for letting Wes fix your tractor Mrs. Wes.
I have the same leak… thanks for finding the cause!
You have t'patients of a saint working on that CC mower. Can't believe Kohler did not use a proper gasket on block halves. You have great determination to (finally) find, fix & finish that engine job! Nice! Carry on Sir!👍👍👍🍺😊
"you see we just tore it, we're committed now" Keep up the great videos. Glade you enjoy the new impact gun.
Wes showing the crushed gutter was worth the entire watch. Apropos was the headlight cover. Well done.
Front tire tread pattern looking good, been running that way for many years, but now I won't have any more pressure to make em match. Thanks
Thanks for shareing wes and family we are in lockdown at moment watched a lot of your vids love them cheers from Australia
I have the same mower. 15 years old. Thanks for showing me how to fix it.👍