Thank you for watching and channel. I'll be releasing more videos you'll see if you are subscribed. A lot of people can't afford Winning, while the Phenom isn't cheap it is half the price of the Winning FG-2900 and almost as good
I have the Phenom Headgear and it's my favorite Headgear so far. I was thinking of getting a white Headgear and was comparing these 2. I have the winning Headgear with bar in black and it's really nice. I get my nose bleeds in the nonbar Headgear cause I have a big nose, lol. Good video bro.
Hey Wingo, appreciate the review and comparison. I think will just spend the extra money on the winning as I feel like at 189 bucks, I might go for the real deal. I already have a great headgear from New Sporting that's a little heavier, so I wana try the real deal next.
You will be very pleased with your your choice. I know I am, and you're right the extra 189 dollars is worth it considering it will last the rest of your life as long as you don't let your dog chew it up lol
I think the extra padding on the chin and back is what makes it 2/3 oz heavier but the winning headgear is 10oz not 8oz (still the lightest on the market
amazing review! i have decided to abandon all pursuits of a fg2900 cheaper alternative. i have a fg2900, but i wanted to have more than one head guard. all of the people I've seen that had to adjust their fg2900 didn't properly adjust the guard to their head. you're spot on about tucking your chin and head guards only protecting you from cuts/bruises.
I've been using a cheap knockoff of Winning called Shuder Mastige. I believe they're a Korean brand manufactured in Pakistan. I switched the laces to Winning because I think they're nicer... it's an all leather construction, which is nice as it stays in place (always for me). The back is a near exact copy of Winning (lacking the extra material the Phenom has) cut perfectly (like Winning) for easy full range of head motion. Where the $50 cost shows itself is in the size and padding of the front. The foam is very dense... to the point of occasionally transferring more of the impact than absorbing it. The thickness also contributes to the wideness of the headgear. The size is the only thing that impairs your ability to tuck nothing more than your chin under your shoulder. The wider a headgear is, the bigger target your head becomes... so I get partially connected with shots that would never touch me in a pro fight. I know 1 year ago I made a commitment to just shell out for the FG-2900... BUT... boxing boots and gloves are the most important thing to me... and Mizuno boxing boots and Winning MS-300 gloves (occasionally Grant... but that's only if I'm stipulated to wear horsehair gloves... which, as a club fighter, I find ridiculous. I make 100-200 bucks a fight before taxes and everything on average. I only choose Grant because they, IMO, are the most protective horsehair glove you can get that's widely sanctioned... they're still overpriced, awful QA, shit IMO.) An extra thank you for pointing out the back closing flaw and the crap forehead inner material of the SHG-250! I'll take a look at MK1 or whatever, and if it's got a difference, I really dislike... then it's time to shell out for an FG-2900. I've been putting this off far too long. I spar too much or get paid to be a sparring partner to not have quality headgear. I'm disappointed as I had high hopes because I love Phenom's foul protector... even though it's simpler than headgear, there's so many companies that can't get it right.
So I just got the phenom headgear, but found a winning for a decent price. Do you think it's worth it getting the winning ones for some extra hundred bucks, and maybe selling my phenom's? I enjoy the idea of soft and lightweight headgear, only thing is, I sweat alot in training and was thinking the phenom would be better to avoid slipping. Im thinking about the longterm game in terms of impact protection, would you say the impact protection is noticeably better than the phenoms, and do the winnings slip around noticeably more? Thanks again.
Can you do me a favor and let me knew what size your headgear is and how much it weighs? I would like to know the difference in weight for the custom leather winning FG-2900
23.5 inch head not sure if i should get large or medium. All my larges fit perfect like adidas and my old winnings at medium FIT but way too small vision wise. Cleto reyes medium fits perfect. The only reason im debating medium is because of the Reyes and everyone says these are sized up and bigger than normal.
thanks for the review! Great video! Can you suggest something to help the winning fg-2900 to stop slipping when i get hit? I sweat a lot, and it makes the headguard move around. It's fine during the earlier rounds
hi wingo, I'm writing to you from Italy, I have a problem with my phenom, during sessions where I sweat a lot the helmet doesn't stay secure and moves, ruining my sparring. I know that a new microfibre model has been made, do you think it can solve this problem? Is the internal material of the winning the same as the phenom? Grazie mille
Lol when at the end of vid you were talking about rather buy from the guy because you can call him and have good customer service, I felt that because buying from winning USA that Kazamichi guy is so rude. I called the phone and he answered the phone saying “why you call me” I said I want to purchase a glove and he said “ why you call me” again, and he said don’t call my phone , and I said well if you don’t want people calling your phone then why do you have a phone number attached to the business on google. I hung up and spent more than I would with him with another website just so I wouldn’t put money in his pocket. There’s no reason to be rude to people that are trying to spend money with you. That’s what happens when you have a product that there is more demand than supply. I promise if he had a tough time selling his gloves he would be more respectful to potential customers.
He's like that in person too, lol. He's cool he's just kind of weird when it comes to sales. He literally asked my why I'm wasting my money on winning and I should buy something cheaper. I just kind of laughed and bought my Headgear. Don't take it personally.
Yes they will take out the suede part and replace it with the rest of the inside lining on the custom. I know because I called them and I asked them about it, they yes they will do that on the custom of you ask them
My head is 22.5 inches and I found the medium to be just a tad to large for me. Call my friend John at Box Up Nation 214-516-9519. He may allow you to try the small and if it does not fit properly he may allow you to exchange for the larger size. You can also pre order it on the color you want from him and he should be able to get it within a couple weeks. I just ordered the Phenom Gp240 high cut groin protector from him but I'm still waiting on it to give a review. I also bought a pair of Phenom Sg-210s from him I'll be releasing a review on soon.
Been looking for this type of video for the longest, thank you.
Thank you for watching and channel. I'll be releasing more videos you'll see if you are subscribed. A lot of people can't afford Winning, while the Phenom isn't cheap it is half the price of the Winning FG-2900 and almost as good
Thanks, man! Your and csquaredboxing's review were the main reasons I decided on the Phenom. Can't wait for it to arrive. 🥊
You won't be disappointed, it's a great head great
I have the Phenom Headgear and it's my favorite Headgear so far. I was thinking of getting a white Headgear and was comparing these 2. I have the winning Headgear with bar in black and it's really nice. I get my nose bleeds in the nonbar Headgear cause I have a big nose, lol. Good video bro.
Thanks Bro. which phenom headgear did you get, the facebar or the cheak protector?
@@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667 cheek protector Phenom and facebar Winning
Awesome information 👏
Glad you liked it
i am looking to buy phenom lol can't wait have another one
They make really good equipment.
Great video! Thx bro.
No problem. Please like and subscribe for more
Nice review
Thank you for the support
Hey Wingo, appreciate the review and comparison. I think will just spend the extra money on the winning as I feel like at 189 bucks, I might go for the real deal. I already have a great headgear from New Sporting that's a little heavier, so I wana try the real deal next.
You will be very pleased with your your choice. I know I am, and you're right the extra 189 dollars is worth it considering it will last the rest of your life as long as you don't let your dog chew it up lol
Thanks wingo!!! Amazing review. I think I’m going with phenom 👍🏼
Thanks for your support
I think the extra padding on the chin and back is what makes it 2/3 oz heavier but the winning headgear is 10oz not 8oz (still the lightest on the market
I put mine on digital scale and it weighed out at 7.9 ounces. You must have a larger size
Your are correct. Thank you I’m curious How much did your phenom weigh on the scale
They look very similar but IMO the blue headgear looks better
I like black better but royal blue is nice and I can see why you like it better
amazing review! i have decided to abandon all pursuits of a fg2900 cheaper alternative. i have a fg2900, but i wanted to have more than one head guard. all of the people I've seen that had to adjust their fg2900 didn't properly adjust the guard to their head.
you're spot on about tucking your chin and head guards only protecting you from cuts/bruises.
I never have trouble with my FG-2900 moving around on my head.
I've been using a cheap knockoff of Winning called Shuder Mastige. I believe they're a Korean brand manufactured in Pakistan. I switched the laces to Winning because I think they're nicer... it's an all leather construction, which is nice as it stays in place (always for me). The back is a near exact copy of Winning (lacking the extra material the Phenom has) cut perfectly (like Winning) for easy full range of head motion. Where the $50 cost shows itself is in the size and padding of the front. The foam is very dense... to the point of occasionally transferring more of the impact than absorbing it. The thickness also contributes to the wideness of the headgear. The size is the only thing that impairs your ability to tuck nothing more than your chin under your shoulder. The wider a headgear is, the bigger target your head becomes... so I get partially connected with shots that would never touch me in a pro fight.
I know 1 year ago I made a commitment to just shell out for the FG-2900... BUT... boxing boots and gloves are the most important thing to me... and Mizuno boxing boots and Winning MS-300 gloves (occasionally Grant... but that's only if I'm stipulated to wear horsehair gloves... which, as a club fighter, I find ridiculous. I make 100-200 bucks a fight before taxes and everything on average. I only choose Grant because they, IMO, are the most protective horsehair glove you can get that's widely sanctioned... they're still overpriced, awful QA, shit IMO.)
An extra thank you for pointing out the back closing flaw and the crap forehead inner material of the SHG-250! I'll take a look at MK1 or whatever, and if it's got a difference, I really dislike... then it's time to shell out for an FG-2900. I've been putting this off far too long. I spar too much or get paid to be a sparring partner to not have quality headgear.
I'm disappointed as I had high hopes because I love Phenom's foul protector... even though it's simpler than headgear, there's so many companies that can't get it right.
hey man great review! Did the phenum padding break in?
Yeah and it feels great too
So I just got the phenom headgear, but found a winning for a decent price.
Do you think it's worth it getting the winning ones for some extra hundred bucks, and maybe selling my phenom's?
I enjoy the idea of soft and lightweight headgear, only thing is, I sweat alot in training and was thinking the phenom would be better to avoid slipping.
Im thinking about the longterm game in terms of impact protection, would you say the impact protection is noticeably better than the phenoms, and do the winnings slip around noticeably more?
Thanks again.
I don't think the impact protection is that different. But if you really want winning go it you will not be disappointed
I have leather winning headgear, is set headgear gloved cup all leather but are really pricy
Can you do me a favor and let me knew what size your headgear is and how much it weighs? I would like to know the difference in weight for the custom leather winning FG-2900
@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667 ohh my God just see your msg
Ok I will !! You have Instagram or Facebook will send yu pic and weight
Sorry just see your msg my God longtime
23.5 inch head not sure if i should get large or medium. All my larges fit perfect like adidas and my old winnings at medium FIT but way too small vision wise. Cleto reyes medium fits perfect. The only reason im debating medium is because of the Reyes and everyone says these are sized up and bigger than normal.
Go with large 22.5 is the max for medium and that's my head size
@@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667 thanks man. Love the review!
Thanks
I'm about to shoot an updated version of this video as well
thanks for the review! Great video! Can you suggest something to help the winning fg-2900 to stop slipping when i get hit? I sweat a lot, and it makes the headguard move around. It's fine during the earlier rounds
I never had an issue with mine slipping. Maybe the size is too large or the laces may need adjusted?
That Phenom headgear will stick to your head when you sweat
hi wingo, I'm writing to you from Italy, I have a problem with my phenom, during sessions where I sweat a lot the helmet doesn't stay secure and moves, ruining my sparring.
I know that a new microfibre model has been made, do you think it can solve this problem? Is the internal material of the winning the same as the phenom? Grazie mille
the new one is on the market yet ?
With the phenom big slightly bigger do you think you could have gotten a small instead of medium?
That could be for some but not for myself. I'm on the larger end of a size medium
Lol when at the end of vid you were talking about rather buy from the guy because you can call him and have good customer service, I felt that because buying from winning USA that Kazamichi guy is so rude. I called the phone and he answered the phone saying “why you call me” I said I want to purchase a glove and he said “ why you call me” again, and he said don’t call my phone , and I said well if you don’t want people calling your phone then why do you have a phone number attached to the business on google. I hung up and spent more than I would with him with another website just so I wouldn’t put money in his pocket. There’s no reason to be rude to people that are trying to spend money with you. That’s what happens when you have a product that there is more demand than supply. I promise if he had a tough time selling his gloves he would be more respectful to potential customers.
I'm sorry you had such a hard time with him
@@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667 it’s cool, I appreciate your videos you got a sub from me!
He's like that in person too, lol. He's cool he's just kind of weird when it comes to sales. He literally asked my why I'm wasting my money on winning and I should buy something cheaper. I just kind of laughed and bought my Headgear. Don't take it personally.
What size did you get for your head size?
Medium
Thinking of getting a custom set from phenom, did they say anything about allowing to replace the suede part with leather?
Yes they will take out the suede part and replace it with the rest of the inside lining on the custom. I know because I called them and I asked them about it, they yes they will do that on the custom of you ask them
@@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667 sounds really good then! Thanks a lot man
Should i get my Phenom in a size small ?My head is about 22’’ but the color i want is unavailable in a medium .
My head is 22.5 inches and I found the medium to be just a tad to large for me. Call my friend John at Box Up Nation 214-516-9519. He may allow you to try the small and if it does not fit properly he may allow you to exchange for the larger size. You can also pre order it on the color you want from him and he should be able to get it within a couple weeks.
I just ordered the Phenom Gp240 high cut groin protector from him but I'm still waiting on it to give a review. I also bought a pair of Phenom Sg-210s from him I'll be releasing a review on soon.
Both of M size bro ?
Yes they are both size medium. I have a 22.5 inch head.