The New 2022 BMW M240i Is A Cheap M2 Killer!

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  • @User76575
    @User76575 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    So glad to see this channel back to what it used to be!

    • @jhonnydrop7100
      @jhonnydrop7100 ปีที่แล้ว

      Before he discovered drugs you mean? Lol

    • @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg
      @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jhonnydrop7100 whats a little METH among friend bro

  • @AidenQ714
    @AidenQ714 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The new m2 is gonna be insane

    • @todddooley793
      @todddooley793 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree, probably will have the s58 and with the Xdrive. I'd love to get one but my 2017 m240 will have to do for now.

    • @45hotro
      @45hotro ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Henco en Mexico.

    • @germanengineering204
      @germanengineering204 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@todddooley793 It's going to have the S58 with close to 450 horsepower is what I've heard recently!

    • @LLTK22
      @LLTK22 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The m240i is a better buy

  • @TJZTechShow
    @TJZTechShow ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of the best reviews of this car so far. Very accurate demonstration. One thing to keep in mind is the M240i is a balance between small luxury coupe and sports car. It is not meant to be a full out sports car... that's the M2

  • @mkvB58KING
    @mkvB58KING ปีที่แล้ว +17

    That wasn't a proper launch control, it was brake boosting. You can't be in M1 mode, has to be S1. You will see a flag on the dash when it's properly engaged 💪🏼

    • @bayareagtr5468
      @bayareagtr5468 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is S mode for? Whenever I change it to S mode and I shift, it goes to M1 m2, etc. Is S only for automatic and what does it do?

    • @Errost5
      @Errost5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bayareagtr5468 Sport. M is manual and regardless of the driving mode. S ist just the transmission in sport mode.

    • @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg
      @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bayareagtr5468 thats the intention ! S is sport for fast shifting ok ! just leave it in S and dont SHIFT ! lol

  • @BTS-ze9vb
    @BTS-ze9vb ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving the videos. Keep up the good work Parker.

  • @Artofspeedd
    @Artofspeedd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video keep up the good work bro

  • @rinathama
    @rinathama ปีที่แล้ว

    Much love Parker! This content is why I'm still subscribed since 2015

  • @HellcatDreaminJosh
    @HellcatDreaminJosh ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Vehicle Virgins Awesome Review I think the All new BMW M240i looks and sounds absolutely incredible and I can't to see you Review a New M2 when they come out

  • @nicobellic2465
    @nicobellic2465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review Parker. Waiting for some night drive in LA.

  • @TimetoWatch247
    @TimetoWatch247 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done, Peter. Keep it up.

  • @marcusgrubert3258
    @marcusgrubert3258 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a M240I with MHD stage 2 is such a pleasure to drive and makes a lot of others cars surprised.

  • @joeb9763
    @joeb9763 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watched a bunch of videos. I bought the 2023 same color and LOVE it!

  • @drewh1956
    @drewh1956 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    RIMs look good - wonder if they're lighter than the stock options.

  • @acergaj
    @acergaj ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking good Parker!

  • @alsatch_
    @alsatch_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wish I didn’t feel this way, but I’m just not feeling the new styling direction from bmw 😩

    • @germanengineering204
      @germanengineering204 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely prefer the styling of my 21 M240i xdrive! I agree some odd styling going on recently with the new designer!

  • @karlbuckley8346
    @karlbuckley8346 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They are doing the next gen M2 in both auto and manual, because Shmee did a video from Austria where he drove both in camouflage

  • @Bimmer_Bill
    @Bimmer_Bill ปีที่แล้ว

    Got one in Melbourne Red too. Looks even better lowered with meatier tires. Not sure red interior is the best choice with red exterior?

  • @TheFunkhouser
    @TheFunkhouser ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVE the 2 series M... little pitball's on 4 wheels 😆

  • @PaulTC777
    @PaulTC777 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    3,6 is 2000's supercar levels of acceleration. A base model Gallardo was 3,5 if im not wrong.

    • @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg
      @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      welcome to the modern ERA ! - first of all the GALLARDO which i love was heavy only had 500 hp and a Terrible SC trans so yes they were not super fast but looked bad ass espec with a hot porn star driving it🤣🤣🤣

    • @PaulTC777
      @PaulTC777 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jeffufcfanaticrosenberg the gallardo had terrible understeering

    • @PaulTC777
      @PaulTC777 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jeffufcfanaticrosenberg the best vag products are RWD Audi R8 or RWD Huracan

    • @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg
      @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PaulTC777 didnt pay much attention - handling was ok for 2011 - i was with my 18 yr old bangbros pornstar cuddle at the time time - just rem gas mileage was horrid , trans was nowhere like the ZF but car looked and sounded badass ! rem this was over 12 years ago bro ! times have changed light years - just drove a mclaren 570s with another cuddle and it was light years ahead of the gallardo in every way shape and form- 12 years is a LIFETIME in CAR YEARS kindo of like DOG YEARS lol

    • @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg
      @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PaulTC777 the audi felt slow STOCK compared to my c7 - lots of potential - have not driven a Huracan yet sadly just the MCLAREN and FERRARI 458

  • @MitchM240
    @MitchM240 ปีที่แล้ว

    What rims are those? I’ve never seen them before.

  • @dopemanjace
    @dopemanjace ปีที่แล้ว

    Best M240 Review So Far

  • @thefactor6909
    @thefactor6909 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great review !
    Absolutely love my full spec BG M240i .
    Going on 3 months and everyday I love it more and find more things I love instead of what I don’t like as time goes on as any other car I’ve owned .

    • @pssita
      @pssita ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't have enough time to watch the whole video.. How much do those cars cost?

    • @F87Zach
      @F87Zach ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pssita around 50k

    • @thefactor6909
      @thefactor6909 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@pssita Base Price I believe was around 48 to 49 . Mine pretty much has every option and it was about 60,000.
      Worth every dollar imo .

    • @xhxhxhxchchchch6901
      @xhxhxhxchchchch6901 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thefactor6909 do a video of it im thinking of ordering one. Any chance you got rear wheel drive?

    • @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg
      @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nice ! seems like a great upgrade to the m235i fwiw

  • @mariomunoz7167
    @mariomunoz7167 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, Parker! 🙏

  • @rembo183
    @rembo183 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The new M2 will get bug markups and this model will not so,there’s that! The 2022, 230i is surprisingly quick too. Less money for basically the same styling inside and out so check that one too.

  • @qwksti
    @qwksti ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pretty nice and not even a M car. Way better looking than G8x M cars by far.

  • @porkchop8131
    @porkchop8131 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep it up

  • @keithh3099
    @keithh3099 ปีที่แล้ว

    You do know there are cliffs where you are driving as you are screeching the tires?

  • @e63s82
    @e63s82 ปีที่แล้ว

    please review the 2022 cla45 :D

  • @porkchop8131
    @porkchop8131 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome

  • @mgnoodle2589
    @mgnoodle2589 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those wheels are awesome

  • @donsummers5678
    @donsummers5678 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like gravity 🎵🎶🍀

  • @jaycarlos2411
    @jaycarlos2411 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you parker, you just made my day brighter

  • @oversteer_9339
    @oversteer_9339 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh wow active grille 😲

  • @Tommikegetitright101i
    @Tommikegetitright101i ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want one! What yall would take 240i or RS3 and why?

    • @carlosdeleon9593
      @carlosdeleon9593 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      M240i because it’s not a fancy Jetta. That 5 cyl sound really nice though

    • @AJUSA1
      @AJUSA1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      240i xdrive is an AWD supra... That engine will have limitless development for decades into the future

    • @everythingsports4581
      @everythingsports4581 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rs3 will be much nicer inside

    • @slin4013
      @slin4013 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Neither. Model3 performance. Blows both out of the water easily in a daily situation and it gets better every couple weeks via software updates. Much quicker too on the streets. Don’t bring “track” into this discussion since 99.9% of the time these cars belong in the streets.
      How can anyone seriously buy gas cars that are not
      1) supercars 2)unique limited production cars that will continue to go up in value
      I ll rent one on turo when I’m traveling to a new city and gladly return it at the end.

    • @urigeheadmot1196
      @urigeheadmot1196 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      240i any day

  • @chrisvam
    @chrisvam ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The manual might come.. because of the manual supra

  • @AJUSA1
    @AJUSA1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    AWD Supra right there

  • @badass1g
    @badass1g ปีที่แล้ว

    B58 FTW. The exterior on the other hand. 🧐

  • @randomhobbyist99
    @randomhobbyist99 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love the M240i for 50k it’s a bargain in todays market!

    • @germanengineering204
      @germanengineering204 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The M240i has always been an incredible bang for the buck since its first year out in 2017!

    • @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg
      @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      form factor is great ! only issue is things break non-stop but yes

  • @Mamby
    @Mamby ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not rip M2. The M2 is going to be a beast.

  • @jammiedodger7040
    @jammiedodger7040 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rally hope BMW adds hydrogen combustion options to there cars and they would fit in to there original cars

  • @Mp-jw1qg
    @Mp-jw1qg ปีที่แล้ว

    the 8hp is way better than the dct. the new m2 is going to be the flagship bmw car as far as performance is concerned. the m240 x drive you can build the trans, engine and drivetrain for 1000hp and the aftermarket already exists. same DME as the new m3 and its cracked.

    • @Chris8n
      @Chris8n ปีที่แล้ว

      the ZF torque converter is not better than a DCT let’s be realistic

  • @nickbrunisch3101
    @nickbrunisch3101 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there any videos of anyone getting 3.6 seconds to 60 in this car ? I thought it was closer to 4 seconds

  • @Vicente007
    @Vicente007 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This thing is going to be a dig monster, supra killer for sure.

  • @fatoputso7375
    @fatoputso7375 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stopped caring after the e36, maybe the e46.

  • @vlj1133
    @vlj1133 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why would anyone ever choose piano black in their interior? Damn, that looks nasty. I will never understand why the manufacturers keep using that crap in their cars. It's no cheaper tham matte plastic, which looks and holds up a million times better.
    Go for the aluminum mesh option.

  • @duckhorn
    @duckhorn ปีที่แล้ว

    is it supra based?

  • @charlieboy9297
    @charlieboy9297 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Vehicle Virgins

  • @barkbros123
    @barkbros123 ปีที่แล้ว

    It has always been…

  • @ganuv
    @ganuv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You don’t need the manual,ZF is the best transmission today.

  • @symons666
    @symons666 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually think that it is bullsh#t that BMW have stopped offering the manual transmission because people are no longer going for it, I think that they are no longer offering it so then they can say people are not buying manuals anymore !

  • @AliG-vo8et
    @AliG-vo8et ปีที่แล้ว

    yes its a faster 0-60.... but then after 60 the 240 is a dot in my rear view mirror lool. Also comparing old gen to new gen makes no sense... wait until the M2 is out.

  • @SavageBunny1
    @SavageBunny1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Damn, then how fast is the M2 going to be?? 3 seconds flat??

    • @joshuahanzroger1774
      @joshuahanzroger1774 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It might be lesser i guess. Maybe 2.9 or lesser. I hope so. If the m240i is 360hp, then the m2 might be 410 or more? We all know M2 is lighter than the M5 and also the new m2 got awd/xdrive. It must! below 3 secs.

    • @nighthawk0077
      @nighthawk0077 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joshuahanzroger1774 the m240i is not 360hp. It's 382. Also sub 3sec is Lamborghini huracan territory

    • @joshuahanzroger1774
      @joshuahanzroger1774 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nighthawk0077 hahah. Sorry my bad. Misread the information. 380hp then the m2 must be more awesome. Cant wait for the result tho. Let's just hope tht the design little bit better than the current m240i. Just like the old bmw. Prefer the old design tbh. Simple but beautiful. Cheers!

    • @joshuahanzroger1774
      @joshuahanzroger1774 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nighthawk0077 by the way, about the acceleration, they changed the gearing which is nice! Shorter gear ratio for the first three gear which will improve 0-60mph / 0 - 100 kmh, and longer gear ratios for better fuel economy which will also increase the topspeed. Guess M2-M4 will be fully gasoline while the m5 is now half hybrid and gas. let's just wait for the next gen M cars. Can't wait to buy it.

  • @no_lft_shft
    @no_lft_shft ปีที่แล้ว

    When the hell are we suppose to get this m2 anyway

  • @ToneysReviews
    @ToneysReviews ปีที่แล้ว

    This car is what the GTR was in 2008.

  • @HellcatDreaminJosh
    @HellcatDreaminJosh ปีที่แล้ว

    Notification Squad

  • @chebrneck
    @chebrneck ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ll keep my Quadrifoglio

  • @dnice362
    @dnice362 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just don’t like the display, it’s like a spaceship

  • @scottwinton3698
    @scottwinton3698 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the Melbourne red, I had a 2017 m240i convertible in Melbourne red, the front is not attractive the grill and lights aren't as good , the back is better, the biggest miss is not offering a convertible, the seats are nicer than the previous series, and there is more technically than the last series

  • @jurzyjohner432
    @jurzyjohner432 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yea manual is dead tech. And why have it, its such a pain in traffic, you gotta deal with clutches etc, not to mention DCT shits all over it, but in a race vs an automatic without DCT ill take the stick but thats it, too much of a pain to drive and its slower than the new transmissions . Dont mean to insult anyone just my opinion.

    • @christopherbassit2757
      @christopherbassit2757 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s not dead tech. Yet. They hold power more reliably and are cheaper all together.

    • @HaloDude557
      @HaloDude557 ปีที่แล้ว

      Manual is about fun not performance. EVs will soon own the automatic part of racing and that will be no fun. Drag racing is going to die but for now track lives on.

  • @FRUGSTER
    @FRUGSTER ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The carbon trimm is not factory built, it’s aftermarket. The 0-60 is not 3,6 it’s low 4s (4,1-4,3). The car also has aftermarket wheels, looks like 20s”which are not available from the factory. Factory offers 19” with the pilot sport which are available only with one set of rims 255m back, 245 front and it has a small plastic arches on the fenders, which this car doesn’t have.

    • @spiraling6980
      @spiraling6980 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are several reviewers that got 3.8 sec 0-60.

    • @MitchM240
      @MitchM240 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every review including from every major car magazine like road and track and car and driver got under 4 seconds 0-60. The number he is quoting is real world not what the manufacturer says.

  • @GerardoHernandezF87M2
    @GerardoHernandezF87M2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ll trade in my f87 in about 3-4 years for a g87

    • @mariomunoz7167
      @mariomunoz7167 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have an f87 m2 myself. OG, though.
      Not worth to trade for this m240i?

  • @apcvapes
    @apcvapes ปีที่แล้ว

    cover your speedo

  • @GunsNBudder
    @GunsNBudder ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still weighs more than a Camaro SS 1le and has 70 less HP. And costs a lot more.

    • @Bimmer_Bill
      @Bimmer_Bill ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And faster

    • @robusk330
      @robusk330 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Chevy is literally dog shit when it comes to technology and reliability. German manufacturers are leading in technology and performance.

    • @geneforte9038
      @geneforte9038 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Camaro does not offer AWD

    • @4gosselin
      @4gosselin ปีที่แล้ว

      and cannot see out the side or back

    • @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg
      @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Bimmer_Bill lol - about the same prob but 1le should be faster around a track

  • @urigeheadmot1196
    @urigeheadmot1196 ปีที่แล้ว

    „Cheap“

  • @gilesfraser1802
    @gilesfraser1802 ปีที่แล้ว

    How fast is he driving?

    • @SavageBunny1
      @SavageBunny1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The legal speed limit, nothing to see here.

    • @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg
      @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he is on the most dangerous road in the US so wtf do you care

  • @petera4640
    @petera4640 ปีที่แล้ว

    the thing is. these aint cheap XD

  • @mitchrich6
    @mitchrich6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like a hidden gem, only worry being BMW reliability

  • @stephenemmonds
    @stephenemmonds ปีที่แล้ว

    Cheap? Not sure about that! You can pick up a used M2 Comp for 20k less than these.

    • @brian07470
      @brian07470 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry dude...You are not finding a used M2C for $30K unless its been wrecked or has a million miles on it. Base M2's are in the 40's...

  • @jammiedodger7040
    @jammiedodger7040 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really wish they would put the M3 grill on the M2

  • @LoneWolf-st8vf
    @LoneWolf-st8vf ปีที่แล้ว

    you mean 372 hp 😏

    • @Jashue
      @Jashue ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s the euro spec.

  • @tyricowens7205
    @tyricowens7205 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey

  • @rscholey85
    @rscholey85 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every new car is faster than the last 😂 that’s how they sell them , faster being used loosely a flagship Porsche will go round the Nurburgring 2min or so quicker in the real world off track far less 😂… what any car manufacturers fail on usually is styling and sound, speed is easy we’re past the times of slower cars because they got heavy due to safety

  • @DeanOnRS
    @DeanOnRS ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cheap?

  • @mesutdjedaribafi5429
    @mesutdjedaribafi5429 ปีที่แล้ว

    0-60 4,3 sec NOT 3,6 sec

    • @MitchM240
      @MitchM240 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Says who? Have you seen any real world tests? Every single on is under 4 seconds.

    • @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg
      @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no bro - stay off the Meth

  • @reqinu1678
    @reqinu1678 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2,24M subscribers…only 1080p resolution… 😐

    • @MitchM240
      @MitchM240 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Says the guy probably watching this on a 6” phone screen.

  • @ya6ber
    @ya6ber ปีที่แล้ว

    Oooo

  • @speedguitardemon
    @speedguitardemon ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the M2 competition better, even if it isn't as fast.

    • @urigeheadmot1196
      @urigeheadmot1196 ปีที่แล้ว

      It‘s 10 trillion times more beautiful

  • @invalidusername_5101
    @invalidusername_5101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That thing is ugly for a bmw

  • @philippaertskevin1228
    @philippaertskevin1228 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have always loved and owned bmw’s but this styling just looks awful its the worst looking 2 series ever build 🤢. If they keep up this styling people will look for a different brand .

    • @dylans55
      @dylans55 ปีที่แล้ว

      agreed

    • @dylans55
      @dylans55 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bradobrado5243 no

    • @philippaertskevin1228
      @philippaertskevin1228 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bradobrado5243 are you blind ? 😂

    • @NicolasHerbots
      @NicolasHerbots ปีที่แล้ว

      It is acctually GEORGOUS in the flesh! I’m biased because I own one, but have to say everywhere I go, the car is a head turner and people all are commenting how amazingly good it looks, really.

    • @MitchM240
      @MitchM240 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just ordered one. It’s stunning. One of my favorite cars ever.

  • @yahussein709
    @yahussein709 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am always first

  • @yahussein709
    @yahussein709 ปีที่แล้ว

    First

    • @snakeeyes9246
      @snakeeyes9246 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope

    • @Reaperguy67
      @Reaperguy67 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope and nobody else asked about how early you are

  • @fzr1000981
    @fzr1000981 ปีที่แล้ว

    Title is funny because the 2023 M2 will be unveiled next month and it's going to smoke this thing. S58 >> B58

    • @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg
      @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no dummy - different car - different purpose and way way more expensive ! 🤦‍♀

    • @fzr1000981
      @fzr1000981 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not really, base M2 is 65k

    • @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg
      @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fzr1000981 looking at low mileage m240i 2022 for 48k - def you want see an m2 anywhere near that

    • @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg
      @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      handling maybe but the X drive will give you better DIGS imo espec if you mod the car

    • @fzr1000981
      @fzr1000981 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jeffufcfanaticrosenberg I have a 2023 RS3 currently

  • @kndli67
    @kndli67 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is so fugly

  • @vincaxtc1
    @vincaxtc1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its ugly

  • @Enko063
    @Enko063 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It is goddamn hideous.

    • @aayangoverski3437
      @aayangoverski3437 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just like ur mom

    • @SavageBunny1
      @SavageBunny1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine an E46 M3 with this drivetrain, and it would be lighter.

    • @dylanking1895
      @dylanking1895 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SavageBunny1 if only car manufacturers could profit from re-released car models, I would never buy a new design again…

  • @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg
    @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    honestly dont like the 23 - its like a bad Tesla screen - prefer the 22 by far