What a little weapon. I’d love to have that S Edition. Sweet ride and good to see em off roaring rather than just being stuck on the black stuff. Well done
Can I just say, Subaru are very underrated offroad cars, you will be surprised where you can take these machines. The missis has got a 2013 2.5L, and I am getting the geolander AT by yokohama fitted to it. will be interesting to see how it goes with xmode.
How is it that the CVT here looked OK with those climbs whereas some are showing that the car is not moving at all? Could the other have actually already broken their transmissions? Cheers.
Hey mate, without seeing the other videos to compare I can't be sure but some cvts work better than others... This one being an XT with a turbo makes a huge difference over the Na cvt, they have a lot more torque which makes them more capable of steep climbs. We've taken this on some steeper stuff where it was close to stalling out but I think that's the main thing and some people don't turn traction control off which kills engine power as soon as wheel slip is detected. But yes cvt can stall out more easily than the automatics but turbo helps a lot 👍🏼 I hope this helped. Cheers
The NA Forester engines have more torque than the Turbos up to about 2000rpm. HP is roughly the same at those lower RPMs too. You can really tell which vehicle has more torque and HP at the lower end from this video because the XT is having to really gas it up those slopes to get into that power band which kicks in around 2-3k for the turbo. The NA also have a really flat torque curve throughout their range and the turbos torque drop off around 5k rpms. The better engine with more useable low end torque for offroading really seems to be the NA engines.
Excellent video. Picking up a very low km MY2012 S Premium auto for my wife very soon. Does that have any special driving modes? Test drive on plain tarmac was a revelation - just so “planted”!
Hi mate, cool vid. Ive got the 09 XT premium, mines got the 4EAT. How have you found the auto to be holding up off road? Even tho they are more old school i prefer the 4/5EAT over the newer CVT’s
Thanks mate, nice choice of car 👍🏻 I agree, I think the 4/5eat transmissions are the go if you are comparing them to the cvt for off-roading. The 5eat is great, it has the VTD centre diff which seems to help but I think the 4eat is a little more robust so it's a good option 👌🏻
In mud/snow is it better to turn X-mode on(VDC off) or leave X-mode off(VDC off). I know that with both of them turned off is the setup for sand from what i test drove so i assume it would be the same for snow and mud. Id rather use X-mode if I want traction. But if theres no such just send it! Nice video non the less. You earned a subscriber.
Yeah man I think you're right with what you are saying. I don't have X-mode so can't comment on that specifically... I usually turn VDC of for every offroad situation but it can work well when you're lifting wheels on a track as long as it's not too steep. Thanks for checking out the videos and subscribing 👍🏼
@@MontyScott Thanks for the reply! Do you think you will be buying a new Forester in the future if something happens with yours(hope it lives a long happy life)?
No worries mate, I'm not super keen on the cvt personally and now that they've got rid of the xt I'm not sure that I would get another as I love having the turbo power. I may consider another forester but probably not a newer version... We'll see what they bring out in the future though 🤞🏼 👍🏼 If they bring a new dual range turbo auto or manual then I'd get one for sure! Don't think that will happen though.
Hey mate, I have an s edition forester with nearly same mods..only thing I don't have is the fuel pump. Worth it? How many kw you have at the wheels? I have 196awkw so want to see how far I can push the 5 speed auto transmission?
Hey mate, the 2013 is the dark one and it's completely stock. The silver one on the other hand is a 2012 and it IS an automatic however it's a 5eat that is only available on the S-edition that was available in select markets. It's got an invedia dump pipe with a Hi-Tec mufflers cat back 👍🏻
Hey mate, just picked up an 18 forester xt. Thinking about lifting by 2 inches and maybe switching out the tires, but not really sure where to go with my mods. Any suggestions?
Hey mate, nice car👍🏻 I am running a 2 inch Subieliftoz kit and it's a good place to start. Tyres are also a really important thing if you plan on going off-road. Downsizing to 17 inch wheels will give you better tyre options. If you have a look on Facebook there are some awesome offroad Subaru pages with all the info you need for modifying 👌🏻
No worries, tyre choice really comes down to what you want to do with the car and then choose a tyre that suits those conditions. Personally I've only ever used BFG for offroad tyres first I got all terrains but now I've gone for mud terrains. They're definitely a more aggressive option though both in AT and MT 👍🏻
Hey bro, congratulations for posting these kind of videos, just make me feel proud of choosed one of this great SUV, I have 2011 Forester X 2.0 with 4 transmission, got experience crossing Peru from our cost in Lima to closer to 5000 meters through the mountains, such a great car and traveling in the cost, my subie beated a Nissan Pathfinder 2005 with 3.5 engine on the sand, Nissan got stock and subie was like a driving on a jello, jajajaja, congrats once again. Question where did you get those kits for lift your car? And could you tell me the size of those 16" wheels magnesium toyota‽ Thank you, greetings from Perú.
Thanks mate, sounds like an awesome trip. The lift kit is from subieliftoz 👍🏻 not sure what you mean by size? But yes they are 16x6.5 with a +48 offset 🚙💨
@@MontyScott, great, yes that is what I wanted, the dimensions of the wheel, thank you, so what is the mileage on your subie? Are you still placing some more stuff on your car? Greeting's
Awesome video Monty I have a mate who's looking on getting a 2010 Subaru Forester XT Premium Auto stock and he's wondering if you still get that boxer rumble even though the exhaust is stock and also is there heaps of room inside the car to go sleeping and for cargo.
Thanks, I appreciate it! To get the boxer rumble to come alive you do really need at least mufflers or a cat back exhaust, you'll need to retune if you go a turbo back exhaust though. You can sleep in it but it's not perfect. I'm about 193cm and I can make it work but if it's something your mate plans on doing regularly maybe he could sort out some kind of set up that would work well and make better than I had it. I use a rooftop tent now and love it! Cheers
Hi mate, yes the engines are different variant s of the boxer motor. My one (silver) is the older 2.5ltr motor with unequal length headers on it which is what gives it that rumble with an exhaust on it, I also have other mods that are listed in the description they also contribute to its sound. The other car (Charcoal grey) is the newer 2.0ltr engine and it has equal length headers that make it sound closer to other 4 cylinder cars. Cheers
Hi David, the dark grey one has the x-mode the silver one is the older model that never came out with it. You can see the down hill decent function used here at 7:30 its all automatic braking down hill with feet completely off all pedals. Cheers
@@MontyScott I’ve a 2.0 xt 241hp. I wish someone would do a front bumper mod to give a 30 degree approach from the front🤔 I’m going to do a 30mm lift, then slightly deeper tyres to hopefully give a better front approach angle
Lift and bigger tyres help a lot with approach and departure angles! There are some bumper or bar options for better clearance also depending where you're located in the world 👍🏻
Ah ok, you probably don't have as many bumper options over there either... Here in Australia we have a few options and in America they have lots of options!
Fair enough, there is nothing better than lockers! But X-mode is better than open diffs only... It's not the best but if you keep the throttle steady and give it a chance it does work 👍🏼 check out my instagram post below... This is VDC which is the older less advanced version of X-mode. instagram.com/p/Bo-8ivJndDL/?igshid=bbithyolh663
What a little weapon. I’d love to have that S Edition. Sweet ride and good to see em off roaring rather than just being stuck on the black stuff. Well done
Thanks Mike, yeah I love taking them off road. they are great fun!
Epicness. Such great cars. Especially that dark grey one.
Thanks bud!
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Can I just say, Subaru are very underrated offroad cars, you will be surprised where you can take these machines. The missis has got a 2013 2.5L, and I am getting the geolander AT by yokohama fitted to it. will be interesting to see how it goes with xmode.
Buen video desde Costa Rica
How is it that the CVT here looked OK with those climbs whereas some are showing that the car is not moving at all? Could the other have actually already broken their transmissions? Cheers.
Hey mate, without seeing the other videos to compare I can't be sure but some cvts work better than others... This one being an XT with a turbo makes a huge difference over the Na cvt, they have a lot more torque which makes them more capable of steep climbs. We've taken this on some steeper stuff where it was close to stalling out but I think that's the main thing and some people don't turn traction control off which kills engine power as soon as wheel slip is detected. But yes cvt can stall out more easily than the automatics but turbo helps a lot 👍🏼 I hope this helped. Cheers
The NA Forester engines have more torque than the Turbos up to about 2000rpm. HP is roughly the same at those lower RPMs too. You can really tell which vehicle has more torque and HP at the lower end from this video because the XT is having to really gas it up those slopes to get into that power band which kicks in around 2-3k for the turbo. The NA also have a really flat torque curve throughout their range and the turbos torque drop off around 5k rpms. The better engine with more useable low end torque for offroading really seems to be the NA engines.
Excellent video. Picking up a very low km MY2012 S Premium auto for my wife very soon. Does that have any special driving modes? Test drive on plain tarmac was a revelation - just so “planted”!
Thanks mate, sounds good! No special driving modes as such just the sports mode and paddle shifting for the automatic 👍🏻
I thought you stopped making video's. I'm glad you're back at it!
Thanks Jon, its been a while! Hopefully not as long for the next video!
Hi mate, cool vid. Ive got the 09 XT premium, mines got the 4EAT. How have you found the auto to be holding up off road? Even tho they are more old school i prefer the 4/5EAT over the newer CVT’s
Thanks mate, nice choice of car 👍🏻 I agree, I think the 4/5eat transmissions are the go if you are comparing them to the cvt for off-roading. The 5eat is great, it has the VTD centre diff which seems to help but I think the 4eat is a little more robust so it's a good option 👌🏻
Excellent
In mud/snow is it better to turn X-mode on(VDC off) or leave X-mode off(VDC off). I know that with both of them turned off is the setup for sand from what i test drove so i assume it would be the same for snow and mud. Id rather use X-mode if I want traction. But if theres no such just send it! Nice video non the less. You earned a subscriber.
Yeah man I think you're right with what you are saying. I don't have X-mode so can't comment on that specifically... I usually turn VDC of for every offroad situation but it can work well when you're lifting wheels on a track as long as it's not too steep. Thanks for checking out the videos and subscribing 👍🏼
@@MontyScott Thanks for the reply! Do you think you will be buying a new Forester in the future if something happens with yours(hope it lives a long happy life)?
No worries mate, I'm not super keen on the cvt personally and now that they've got rid of the xt I'm not sure that I would get another as I love having the turbo power. I may consider another forester but probably not a newer version... We'll see what they bring out in the future though 🤞🏼 👍🏼
If they bring a new dual range turbo auto or manual then I'd get one for sure! Don't think that will happen though.
@@MontyScott the outback is getting an XT trim so theres that i guess :D
Awesome!
Cant decide what to buy as they both are good-Good deals here in Perth on the 2011 XT-MY11 premium or similar prices on a 2013 MY13 2.5 L or S models.
Sumit Lanong i feel like the 2011 turbo will be more fun to drive with that extra kick
Hey mate, I have an s edition forester with nearly same mods..only thing I don't have is the fuel pump. Worth it? How many kw you have at the wheels? I have 196awkw so want to see how far I can push the 5 speed auto transmission?
So cool. Keep up the foz thrashing.
Haha thanks Patrick, will do!
What exhaust is on that 2013 Forester and does it sound that good if it’s automatic?
Hey mate, the 2013 is the dark one and it's completely stock. The silver one on the other hand is a 2012 and it IS an automatic however it's a 5eat that is only available on the S-edition that was available in select markets. It's got an invedia dump pipe with a Hi-Tec mufflers cat back 👍🏻
With what speed can you drive before VDC turns back on? it is 37mph untill VDC turns back on in the outback so I wonder what it is in the Forester?
Hey mate, just picked up an 18 forester xt. Thinking about lifting by 2 inches and maybe switching out the tires, but not really sure where to go with my mods. Any suggestions?
Hey mate, nice car👍🏻 I am running a 2 inch Subieliftoz kit and it's a good place to start. Tyres are also a really important thing if you plan on going off-road. Downsizing to 17 inch wheels will give you better tyre options. If you have a look on Facebook there are some awesome offroad Subaru pages with all the info you need for modifying 👌🏻
@@MontyScott thanks appreciate the suggestion. Any specific kind of tire you suggest or that you think work well for foresters
No worries, tyre choice really comes down to what you want to do with the car and then choose a tyre that suits those conditions. Personally I've only ever used BFG for offroad tyres first I got all terrains but now I've gone for mud terrains. They're definitely a more aggressive option though both in AT and MT 👍🏻
Hi... did your mate use X-Mode going up and down the hill from min 6:00+? Or was it just a straight climb? thx
Hey, I know he used X-modes descent control coming down the hill not sure if he used it going up but I would assume that he did 👍🏼
Cheers
what tires You have?
Hi mate, I have BFG Ko2 tyres on the car. Cheers
Hey bro, congratulations for posting these kind of videos, just make me feel proud of choosed one of this great SUV, I have 2011 Forester X 2.0 with 4 transmission, got experience crossing Peru from our cost in Lima to closer to 5000 meters through the mountains, such a great car and traveling in the cost, my subie beated a Nissan Pathfinder 2005 with 3.5 engine on the sand, Nissan got stock and subie was like a driving on a jello, jajajaja, congrats once again. Question where did you get those kits for lift your car? And could you tell me the size of those 16" wheels magnesium toyota‽ Thank you, greetings from Perú.
Thanks mate, sounds like an awesome trip. The lift kit is from subieliftoz 👍🏻 not sure what you mean by size? But yes they are 16x6.5 with a +48 offset 🚙💨
@@MontyScott, great, yes that is what I wanted, the dimensions of the wheel, thank you, so what is the mileage on your subie? Are you still placing some more stuff on your car? Greeting's
Awesome video Monty I have a mate who's looking on getting a 2010 Subaru Forester XT Premium Auto stock and he's wondering if you still get that boxer rumble even though the exhaust is stock and also is there heaps of room inside the car to go sleeping and for cargo.
Thanks, I appreciate it! To get the boxer rumble to come alive you do really need at least mufflers or a cat back exhaust, you'll need to retune if you go a turbo back exhaust though. You can sleep in it but it's not perfect. I'm about 193cm and I can make it work but if it's something your mate plans on doing regularly maybe he could sort out some kind of set up that would work well and make better than I had it. I use a rooftop tent now and love it!
Cheers
Hi mate, where was this track?
Sorry for the late reply! This was was out near Kinglake somewhere. Cheers
The old ones gearbox won't overheat like the cvt in the later model.
Yeah not so keen on the cvt... Keeping with the older 5eat in the S-edition 😎
Is there any difference between engines specs ? The old one sounds stonger....BR
Hi mate, yes the engines are different variant
s of the boxer motor. My one (silver) is the older 2.5ltr motor with unequal length headers on it which is what gives it that rumble with an exhaust on it, I also have other mods that are listed in the description they also contribute to its sound. The other car (Charcoal grey) is the newer 2.0ltr engine and it has equal length headers that make it sound closer to other 4 cylinder cars.
Cheers
The "S-edition" model has an entirely different meaning post Jan 6.
Forestar lo mejor
Thanks 😊 👍🏻
Have Subi wil travel 😎👍👍
Who has x mode?
Hi David, the dark grey one has the x-mode the silver one is the older model that never came out with it. You can see the down hill decent function used here at 7:30 its all automatic braking down hill with feet completely off all pedals.
Cheers
thank´s
the old one is nicer
Thanks mate, I love it 👍🏼
@@MontyScott u r welcome , my father has the new one and it is a nice auto , BUT the old is more nice
I reckon I know where this was
I reckon you do know mate 😉👍🏻
Notice they didn’t try the downhills😂😂😂 the Subaru Forester xt front bumper is too far forward and too low. A design fault on most foresters
We definitely did try the downhill sections... Not sure if you watched the whole video because there's multiple clips showing us going down👍🏻
@@MontyScott I’ve a 2.0 xt 241hp. I wish someone would do a front bumper mod to give a 30 degree approach from the front🤔 I’m going to do a 30mm lift, then slightly deeper tyres to hopefully give a better front approach angle
Lift and bigger tyres help a lot with approach and departure angles! There are some bumper or bar options for better clearance also depending where you're located in the world 👍🏻
@@MontyScott Kenya. The roads are terrible here😱
Ah ok, you probably don't have as many bumper options over there either... Here in Australia we have a few options and in America they have lots of options!
I think I'd rather have RWD truck/suv with a rear locker than AWD with open diff even with the lame brake-based "X-Mode".
Fair enough, there is nothing better than lockers! But X-mode is better than open diffs only... It's not the best but if you keep the throttle steady and give it a chance it does work 👍🏼 check out my instagram post below... This is VDC which is the older less advanced version of X-mode.
instagram.com/p/Bo-8ivJndDL/?igshid=bbithyolh663