@TeslaWoz -- I realize this is a 5+ year old video, but if you need to run a cord out a sliding patio door, go buy yourself a pool noodle from any store you can find one at. If you split the pool noodle down the middle, you can stick it to the door and it'll seal that gap up.
My main concern is the power cable going across the sidewalk. I know some apartments don't have a sidewalk between the balcony and the parking lot, but what was shown in this video is a problem waiting to happen.
I'm planning to reserve a Model 3 next month, but I know I'll be in an apartment for a long time. I wasn't sure if I could make it work. But seeing that you have made it work makes me less apprehensive. Thank for sharing.
+John C Glad to hear it, it's definitely a little bit of a pain in the butt sometimes, but it's not anything that can't be overcome! It's worth it too!
Thanks for the very informative video. I use the Quick 220 at my cottage that has an electrical panel which cannot accept an additional breaker. The Quick 220 permits me to at least double my charge rate in comparison with my regular level 1 charger. As such, this device has saved me thousands of dollars which would have been necessary for an electrical panel upgrade so as to allow me to install a level 2 EV charger.
Won't the cable be a trip hazard especially if 20 cars are all charging at the same time you couldn't walk along the sidewalk I can see lawsuits coming
That quick 220 would not be compatible with any outlet protected by a GFCI, they are not always labeled. Btw, some surge protectors will also trip a GFCI whenever there is a power surge, that is something to check for if a GFCI keeps tripping.
FYI, Tesla re-released a new version of the NEMA 14-30 (dryer outlet) adapters in August of 2016: electrek.co/2016/08/25/tesla-charging-adapter-dryer-outlets-nema-14-30/ They had to discontinue the old ones because they had a few cases where they were overheating so they recalled them: www.tesla.com/support/adapter-recall
Can you just use a 110 to 220 step up transformer? You plug '1' input cable from the transformer and then put the Tesla charge cable to the 220 output of the transformer. Instead of using two input cables to 2 different 110 outlets. Thanks.
Lots of hassle to charge a Tesla in US :( We are lucky in Europe with out 230V system: UMC using regular outlet allows you to charge at 13A 230V, that's around 3 kW. Outlets are capable of delivering 16A, but Tesla decided to limit it to 13A. You can get around this using a converter that tells UMC to pull max 16A to give you 3.7 kW of power. Even without it you get more juice than using this quick 220V system box... I guess that only Japan is less lucky here with their 100V system and no 20A outlets even avaliabe!
Nice seeing extra options and being creative to get power when you happen to live in an apartment with close access to your car. I have to say that the 50' ext cord had to run you $100+, the Tesla 14-30 adapter is about $50, the EVSE adapter about $70, and the Quick 220 system $200-300? That's a ton of extra costs but you are making it happen. Good luck with the apts getting some Level 2 charging for you.
Thank you for a very informative video. It sucks that currently you have to go through this hassle in order to charge your Tesla. I guess eventually 14-50 outlets will be more numerous as electric cars become as acceptable as smart phones. Thank you again.
+Cyrus Yareff I was referring to the breaker panel. Phases are physically wired in the panel next to each other so 2 or 3 breakers can be connected together each on its own phase. In the video he said the phases are on opposite sides of the panel. However, you are right in the US most home use "split-phase" which uses a center tap on the utility transformer for neutral. Creating the two phases at 180 deg.
You can put 3/4" of weatherstrip from Home Depot along the edge of the sliding door then cut a slot for the cord to go out. I did this on my condo for a few months until the HOA stopped me.
+Ivansky1 It was a city code violation for an extension cord to run across a sidewalk for any period of time. It worked out great however. Our condo complex shared a parking garage with a Marriott hotel. The manager hated our HOA lady. He gave me a dedicated parking stall and his facilities guy wired up a 30A outlet for me. Worked out great in the end. I wound up with reserved covered parking.
Is this legal to do? I mean having an electric cord on a sidewalk? I am thinking of the liabilities and the HOA problems. Any ideas about this? Thanks for giving us a solution.
I OWN a brand new condominium, but I didn't think to get a 220V outlet installed in my garage while my place was under construction. My garage is downstairs, and my electrical panel, along with my dryer outlet is upstairs, so installing a 220 volt outlet is prohibitively expensive. So, EV ownership is out of the question for me, unless I decided to sell. Bummer, since used Teslas are in the low 40's now.
Why don't you use the NEMA 14-30 adapter ($35 on Tesla's site) on your Tesla Mobile Connector Gen 2 (comes standard as part of Model S/3/X) and just plug into your dryer outlet when you are not using the dryer (90%) of the time. It will be unsightly dragging the cable upstairs, but you can make it work. If you have a Model S 75D, you'll get 17 miles of range charged every hour.
Thanks for making this video. I am living in an apartment now. I hopefully will be buying a house, or atleast renting a house in two years time when the three is out. I have super chargers near by, but I like to see I have other options available also; assuming if I do live in an apartment still they don't install some outlet.
Safety tip - when charging with the quick220, you need to limit power to 12A, not 15A. Those 120V plugs are NEMA5-15's and are rated for 15A intermittent, 12A continuous.
Also, it's not left and right sides of the panel that are on alternate hots - they alternate "left" and "right" as you go down a column. That's how a double breaker gives you 240, by straddling 2 legs of the service. I'm guessing your apt is fed with 3 phase, since you see 200V on the dryer outlet. 208V phase-to-phase with an 8V drop makes more sense than 240V with a 40V drop (the car should throttle back charging with a 40V drop)
Do you have to charge your car every night? How long does the tesla hold a charge? How much does it cost you each month in electric bill ? How much does it cost per mile in electricity ?
Can you test your voltage your dryer outlet. From what I know about electronics is that your only allowed a +/- 10% voltage drop. American homes should be supplying 240v in a single phase system and or 208v in a 3phase system. I hear everyone saying 220v and it drive me crazy, its 240v..... lol Long cables will give you crazy voltage drop and wouldn't that eventually damage the chargers on the car? How much of a voltage drop is allowed before you start frying boards by not supplying them with the voltage they were designed to run at.
I've been wanting to buy a tesla for awhile. I feel if I buy one, people will give me a hard time telling me I could've purchased a home instead, which is true.
It's hard to get a home for 46K, and you can get a Model 3 for that now. I know that a year ago, when you posted this, you couldn't do that. But hey! you can now!
i'm in the UK & my block has underground parking.. every 2 parking spaces share a mains plug, handy for hoovering/vacuuming the car but as no-one has an EV don't know about charging
So would I be able to simply plug my Tesla nema adapter directly into my washer/ dryer outlet since it's pretty close so no need for a long wire adapter?
So what happens if you're in an apartment that's 40 years old with no outlets in the basement and you live on the 19th floor and the model 3 is parked in basement level 2? How would you keep the car charged? I live in an apartment that is exactly as described above. I saw one Model S in my basement and I've always wondered how that owner managed to keep his car charged. The biggest problem I find to owning a model 3 aside from the cost of the car is access to an outlet that provides enough power to provide enough mileage in reasonable amount of time.
You'd have to use public chargers. There probably are some in your area, and of course the superchargers, though that costs more. Superchargers are comparable to gasoline in cost, I hear.
ehh.. What if you live on the 3rd floor? What if someone trips over the cord and pulls it out the socket? I dont thinning owning a EV is worth it if you live in a apt
So I've got a 2nd floor condo with a deck and outdoor outlets, similar to yours. All breakers are rated for at least 15 amps. However, I have this Zinsco electrical box, which I've been told is somewhat problematic. I'm thinking of running a 30' cord down to the parking lot, limiting the draw to 10 amps, and trickle-charging the Model 3. Is this a good idea?
Total hassle. Extension snaking through the whole place, leave the balcony door open overnight, in the winter?? What if your parking spot is farther off??
In that case, you'd have to use public chargers and superchargers. Unless you have a buddy with the right set-up who'll let you park at his place for a couple hours.
If you're in a large complex check if there are other EV owners and get together and talk to the owner. Most will throw a little cash into an adequate public charger since they can advertise it as a service similar to public Wi-Fi.
I've heard the same thing. It is caused by the fact that at a higher power draw, the onboard charger generates a bit more waste heat rectifying the AC input which is why 32A is more efficient than 40A. I haven't seen any numbers specifying efficiency loss, but it's probably less than 10%.
Thanks for the video. I have a 30AMP dryer plug about 40 feet from my garage and I need to use an extension cord. Have you had any issues using an extension cord? Also, what cord would you recommend?
Ryan Driver I plan on getting this for my model 3. Camco Heavy Duty Outdoor Extension Cord for RV and Auto with Easy PowerGrip Handle- 50 Amp, 6/8-Gauge, Includes Convenient Carrying Strap - 30ft (55195) www.amazon.com/dp/B0024ECIP0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_o86TAbRXWVB56
@@Jscar023 Unfortunately Ryan needs a 30 amp and Camco doesn't appear to make a 30 amp NEMA 14-30. AC WORKS does. Not as fancy as the Camco but it works.
I had a quick look through the comments. way too many stupid people making uninformed comments and criticism. If you use a voltmeter you will probably find that most kitchen counter outlets are split 240volts so you can just plug into one kitchen receptacle.
Here in LA it 'starts' at only .15 a kwh, however if you use more, it goes to 2nd tier, 3rd tier, etc all the way til 4th tier which is like .27 a kwh! Crazy gouge prices!
ok so would you buy an electric car with an integrated solar system to run you home and your car? Like what Tesla is doing with SolarCity? I personally have a solar system here in Cairo Egypt, and I hardly pay anything for the electricity. My next step is to buy an electric car from China and charge it from the sun. If I were in the US like you all I have to do is go to one place and get everything needed. I suspect it will be cheaper. I'll get a car an solar system to charge the car and run my house and maybe sell the extra electricity. Not bad!
Artur Bober it is true. Repairs can be taken care of by the landlord, depending on the lease terms. Furthermore, the cost of owning a Tesla is cheaper than most other cars, eventually paying for itself in savings on gas and repairs.
Against code? What code? its not a permanent fixture or installation. This couldnt keep you from selling your property any more than sticking a paper clip into a three prong outlet would. It might not be approved by Underwriters Laboratories but no city inspector is going to bend you over for it.
People with these buy a house comments are crazy. People own their apartments or condominiums!!! Because it’s just them living alone or they’re contractors who make a lot of money. Just because you don’t own a house and buy an expensive car don’t mean you have to buy a house!! Houses are for “Families” that’s the whole purpose.
Feeling lucky i live in a house in Sweden.. 400V 3-phase connector on my garage. 400V 16A that gives me 11kW .. If i increase the fuses going into the house i could get 22kW too.. but thats not worth it.. :) Mostly i charge 8 hours at work every day.. 230V 10A = 2,3kW .. gives me around 16kWh for a day at work :)
@@richiesd1 It's used for appliances where you need high power that the normal circuit cant take. In Europe we have 230V on one phase and a normal outlet has circuit breakers at 10A so maximum 2,3kW. If you need more than that you can increase the fuse to 16A with thicker cables. If you need more you have to use 3phase (See that as you have 3cables in one with 230V each).. 3phase is used for electric car charging, big compressors, stove, big heatpumps and other appliances using more than 3,6kW...
@@taztaz79, I have never seen any 400V appliances in the home. Having so much power is wonderful for electric car charging for sure. Here in USA, our public EV infrastructure, such as ChargePoint, is mostly 30 amps at 240V (except for the few fast chargers). I charge every at a ChargePoint station across the street from my apartment. I am lucky to have such a convenient charging option which is not the case for most Americans living in multi-family housing. Buying a house in the suburbs sounds like death to me.
@@richiesd1 the US has 240V for high power appliances though.. i would call that 2phase, dont know if that is the way its connected though. Public charging is 3 phase 32A here mostly. So some electric cars can only take one phase (230V 32A) while Tesla can use 400V 16A (11kW) and Zoe can use 400V 32A (22kW). Most DC fastchargers is 50kW but getting changed to 150kW theese days or even higher.
@@taztaz79 , just curious, are your 240V household outlets run in series in Sweden? Or do you have one circuit breaker for each? In USA, we have a circuit breaker for each 240V, when we have them.
I think in the next 5 years, charging stations will be more standard on every parking spot. At apts and stores. Til then, dont buy a ev if u dont own a house
can aford a 120k tesla but cant own a home lol wtf is wrong with that situation home first then you get the car or apartment wtfffffffffffff how are you affording it in a apartment..
Some people move a lot, which makes buying a house more expensive. Also, only the Model X costs 120K. I swear, people have the strangest ideas about what a Tesla costs. It's an expensive car, but not THAT expensive.
If you live in an apparment I think I would save the money for a house first, but if you are living in an apartment means you financing the car, which is why your living in an apartment. If you can't pay cash for the car, you can't afford it, but if you had the cash you wouldn't be living in an apartment
A tesla cast 50000-150000$. A good house costs around 450000$. And, what if you're planning on moving or haven't found a good home yet? It's like saying to a person in poverty, "Oh, you can buy milk so go buy a car."
Martin Soendergaard-Jensen You can get a home for much less than $450,000 in alot of places. It's true, people struggling shouldn't be spending even $25,000 on a car
@TeslaWoz -- I realize this is a 5+ year old video, but if you need to run a cord out a sliding patio door, go buy yourself a pool noodle from any store you can find one at. If you split the pool noodle down the middle, you can stick it to the door and it'll seal that gap up.
My main concern is the power cable going across the sidewalk. I know some apartments don't have a sidewalk between the balcony and the parking lot, but what was shown in this video is a problem waiting to happen.
I'm planning to reserve a Model 3 next month, but I know I'll be in an apartment for a long time. I wasn't sure if I could make it work. But seeing that you have made it work makes me less apprehensive. Thank for sharing.
+John C Glad to hear it, it's definitely a little bit of a pain in the butt sometimes, but it's not anything that can't be overcome! It's worth it too!
Another genius living in apartment and driving 100 k car
Thanks for the very informative video. I use the Quick 220 at my cottage that has an electrical panel which cannot accept an additional breaker.
The Quick 220 permits me to at least double my charge rate in comparison with my regular level 1 charger.
As such, this device has saved me thousands of dollars which would have been necessary for an electrical panel upgrade so as to allow me to install a level 2 EV charger.
Won't the cable be a trip hazard especially if 20 cars are all charging at the same time you couldn't walk along the sidewalk I can see lawsuits coming
That's good info for apartment dwellers - I've wondered if something like the Quick 220 existed. It seems like such an easy solution.
its awesome the guy in this video is clueless
That quick 220 would not be compatible with any outlet protected by a GFCI, they are not always labeled. Btw, some surge protectors will also trip a GFCI whenever there is a power surge, that is something to check for if a GFCI keeps tripping.
FYI, Tesla re-released a new version of the NEMA 14-30 (dryer outlet) adapters in August of 2016: electrek.co/2016/08/25/tesla-charging-adapter-dryer-outlets-nema-14-30/
They had to discontinue the old ones because they had a few cases where they were overheating so they recalled them: www.tesla.com/support/adapter-recall
this is the best video I've seen so far out of all the videos I've seen on TH-cam that explains how to do this at home when you can't in some places
Can you just use a 110 to 220 step up transformer? You plug '1' input cable from the transformer and then put the Tesla charge cable to the 220 output of the transformer. Instead of using two input cables to 2 different 110 outlets. Thanks.
Lots of hassle to charge a Tesla in US :(
We are lucky in Europe with out 230V system: UMC using regular outlet allows you to charge at 13A 230V, that's around 3 kW. Outlets are capable of delivering 16A, but Tesla decided to limit it to 13A. You can get around this using a converter that tells UMC to pull max 16A to give you 3.7 kW of power. Even without it you get more juice than using this quick 220V system box... I guess that only Japan is less lucky here with their 100V system and no 20A outlets even avaliabe!
Lol and tesla is an American car maker
Nice seeing extra options and being creative to get power when you happen to live in an apartment with close access to your car. I have to say that the 50' ext cord had to run you $100+, the Tesla 14-30 adapter is about $50, the EVSE adapter about $70, and the Quick 220 system $200-300? That's a ton of extra costs but you are making it happen. Good luck with the apts getting some Level 2 charging for you.
Thank you for a very informative video.
It sucks that currently you have to go through this hassle in order to charge your Tesla. I guess eventually 14-50 outlets will be more numerous as electric cars become as acceptable as smart phones.
Thank you again.
Phases are staggered, not on opposite sides.
residential phases are 180 degrees apart in the US
+Cyrus Yareff I was referring to the breaker panel. Phases are physically wired in the panel next to each other so 2 or 3 breakers can be connected together each on its own phase. In the video he said the phases are on opposite sides of the panel.
However, you are right in the US most home use "split-phase" which uses a center tap on the utility transformer for neutral. Creating the two phases at 180 deg.
I was going to comment on that too. That's how you can connect two breakers together to make-up 240 volts.
Thanks for the tips! Gives a good idea of what to expect. I'm going to save up for a Model 3.
You can put 3/4" of weatherstrip from Home Depot along the edge of the sliding door then cut a slot for the cord to go out. I did this on my condo for a few months until the HOA stopped me.
Why Would They Stop You!?!?!?
+Ivansky1
It was a city code violation for an extension cord to run across a sidewalk for any period of time. It worked out great however. Our condo complex shared a parking garage with a Marriott hotel. The manager hated our HOA lady. He gave me a dedicated parking stall and his facilities guy wired up a 30A outlet for me. Worked out great in the end. I wound up with reserved covered parking.
@@ngvconversion, and free charging too?
Thanks for this great video. I really appreciate you taking the time to break these options down so simply. Please keep up the great work.
Is this legal to do? I mean having an electric cord on a sidewalk? I am thinking of the liabilities and the HOA problems. Any ideas about this? Thanks for giving us a solution.
I OWN a brand new condominium, but I didn't think to get a 220V outlet installed in my garage while my place was under construction. My garage is downstairs, and my electrical panel, along with my dryer outlet is upstairs, so installing a 220 volt outlet is prohibitively expensive. So, EV ownership is out of the question for me, unless I decided to sell. Bummer, since used Teslas are in the low 40's now.
Why don't you use the NEMA 14-30 adapter ($35 on Tesla's site) on your Tesla Mobile Connector Gen 2 (comes standard as part of Model S/3/X) and just plug into your dryer outlet when you are not using the dryer (90%) of the time. It will be unsightly dragging the cable upstairs, but you can make it work. If you have a Model S 75D, you'll get 17 miles of range charged every hour.
johnyou35 g
Bro. Thank you. This might a solid solution to problem.
Thanks for making this video. I am living in an apartment now. I hopefully will be buying a house, or atleast renting a house in two years time when the three is out. I have super chargers near by, but I like to see I have other options available also; assuming if I do live in an apartment still they don't install some outlet.
+doubleatheman Why would you buy a car like this if you can't afford a house???
+JoJo Kadilihopper in a volatile housing market... a millennial like myself has no interest in owning a house for the time being.
Safety tip - when charging with the quick220, you need to limit power to 12A, not 15A. Those 120V plugs are NEMA5-15's and are rated for 15A intermittent, 12A continuous.
Also, it's not left and right sides of the panel that are on alternate hots - they alternate "left" and "right" as you go down a column. That's how a double breaker gives you 240, by straddling 2 legs of the service. I'm guessing your apt is fed with 3 phase, since you see 200V on the dryer outlet. 208V phase-to-phase with an 8V drop makes more sense than 240V with a 40V drop (the car should throttle back charging with a 40V drop)
Hey from Denmark I would rekomend you make a insert fore youre sliding doore to avoid drafts
Do you have to charge your car every night? How long does the tesla hold a charge? How much does it cost you each month in electric bill ? How much does it cost per mile in electricity ?
Can you test your voltage your dryer outlet.
From what I know about electronics is that your only allowed a +/- 10% voltage drop.
American homes should be supplying 240v in a single phase system and or 208v in a 3phase system.
I hear everyone saying 220v and it drive me crazy, its 240v..... lol
Long cables will give you crazy voltage drop and wouldn't that eventually damage the chargers on the car?
How much of a voltage drop is allowed before you start frying boards by not supplying them with the voltage they were designed to run at.
I've been wanting to buy a tesla for awhile. I feel if I buy one, people will give me a hard time telling me I could've purchased a home instead, which is true.
It's hard to get a home for 46K, and you can get a Model 3 for that now.
I know that a year ago, when you posted this, you couldn't do that. But hey! you can now!
What about people who live in an apartment building where they have to park their car in a garage in a basement?
i'm in the UK & my block has underground parking.. every 2 parking spaces share a mains plug, handy for hoovering/vacuuming the car but as no-one has an EV don't know about charging
So would I be able to simply plug my Tesla nema adapter directly into my washer/ dryer outlet since it's pretty close so no need for a long wire adapter?
yes your clothes dryer is 14-50 and thus plug your Tesla direct in
So what happens if you're in an apartment that's 40 years old with no outlets in the basement and you live on the 19th floor and the model 3 is parked in basement level 2? How would you keep the car charged?
I live in an apartment that is exactly as described above. I saw one Model S in my basement and I've always wondered how that owner managed to keep his car charged.
The biggest problem I find to owning a model 3 aside from the cost of the car is access to an outlet that provides enough power to provide enough mileage in reasonable amount of time.
You'd have to use public chargers. There probably are some in your area, and of course the superchargers, though that costs more. Superchargers are comparable to gasoline in cost, I hear.
Alex Wang you get an extension cord from the 19th floor to the 2nd floor, obviously
Free charging at work? My boyfriend has feee charging at work so we alternate our electric cars.
You only want to pull 80% of your available load. So set it to 12 amps.
Does the landlord or building association allow to run a cord from ur unit to ur car?
ehh.. What if you live on the 3rd floor? What if someone trips over the cord and pulls it out the socket? I dont thinning owning a EV is worth it if you live in a apt
You can still use public chargers and superchargers.
thanks. this applies 2 my situation
Thanks for the tips! Gives a good idea of what to expect. but how much does a kWh cost?
So I've got a 2nd floor condo with a deck and outdoor outlets, similar to yours. All breakers are rated for at least 15 amps. However, I have this Zinsco electrical box, which I've been told is somewhat problematic. I'm thinking of running a 30' cord down to the parking lot, limiting the draw to 10 amps, and trickle-charging the Model 3. Is this a good idea?
Makes me wonder why it's dropping you to 9amps. I'm guessing you have more than just your car on the circuit.
Total hassle. Extension snaking through the whole place, leave the balcony door open overnight, in the winter?? What if your parking spot is farther off??
First Last you can have an EV car
In that case, you'd have to use public chargers and superchargers.
Unless you have a buddy with the right set-up who'll let you park at his place for a couple hours.
If you're in a large complex check if there are other EV owners and get together and talk to the owner. Most will throw a little cash into an adequate public charger since they can advertise it as a service similar to public Wi-Fi.
On a nema 14-50 with a single charger. I have heard charging at 32 amps is cheaper and better for the charger than charging at 40 amps. Thoughts?
So is it best to set the car to charge at 40 amps 32 amps or 30 amps. I have heard different things.
I've heard the same thing. It is caused by the fact that at a higher power draw, the onboard charger generates a bit more waste heat rectifying the AC input which is why 32A is more efficient than 40A. I haven't seen any numbers specifying efficiency loss, but it's probably less than 10%.
+wozzinator run the numbers video
Thanks this video was very helpful!
Great video! I learned a lot from it.
Thanks for the video. I have a 30AMP dryer plug about 40 feet from my garage and I need to use an extension cord. Have you had any issues using an extension cord? Also, what cord would you recommend?
Ryan Driver I plan on getting this for my model 3.
Camco Heavy Duty Outdoor Extension Cord for RV and Auto with Easy PowerGrip Handle- 50 Amp, 6/8-Gauge, Includes Convenient Carrying Strap - 30ft (55195) www.amazon.com/dp/B0024ECIP0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_o86TAbRXWVB56
@@Jscar023 Unfortunately Ryan needs a 30 amp and Camco doesn't appear to make a 30 amp NEMA 14-30. AC WORKS does. Not as fancy as the Camco but it works.
Dude, thank you for sharing.
If u have a 2nd chance, would u still own a Tesla?
why not just get a Tesla with a bigger battery to last a week and then you can use Tesla super charger to charge it for the whole week.
Great video !!
4 or 40 miles per hour?
Four. That's why all that hassle with getting better charging option is about.
I had a quick look through the comments. way too many stupid people making uninformed comments and criticism. If you use a voltmeter you will probably find that most kitchen counter outlets are split 240volts so you can just plug into one kitchen receptacle.
How much does a kWh cost?
In Massachusetts the cost is approximately 14.8 cents per kWh.
Thanks
An Average Of $0.10000 Per KWH!
Check Your Electric Bill. It Tells You How Much It's Costing Where YOU Live!!!!!
Here in LA it 'starts' at only .15 a kwh, however if you use more, it goes to 2nd tier, 3rd tier, etc all the way til 4th tier which is like .27 a kwh! Crazy gouge prices!
ok so would you buy an electric car with an integrated solar system to run you home and your car? Like what Tesla is doing with SolarCity? I personally have a solar system here in Cairo Egypt, and I hardly pay anything for the electricity. My next step is to buy an electric car from China and charge it from the sun. If I were in the US like you all I have to do is go to one place and get everything needed. I suspect it will be cheaper. I'll get a car an solar system to charge the car and run my house and maybe sell the extra electricity. Not bad!
Very nice just, why did you not get yourself your own house first ? So you could park and charge your car in !!
Because not everyone wants to buy a house
Sounds like legitimate answer , good luck and have fun .
Artur Bober it is true. Repairs can be taken care of by the landlord, depending on the lease terms. Furthermore, the cost of owning a Tesla is cheaper than most other cars, eventually paying for itself in savings on gas and repairs.
I was able to afford MS but not $1.5 Million 2bedroom house in San Francisco yet.
Pretty sure this device/solution is against code and very risky.
Against code? What code? its not a permanent fixture or installation. This couldnt keep you from selling your property any more than sticking a paper clip into a three prong outlet would. It might not be approved by Underwriters Laboratories but no city inspector is going to bend you over for it.
3 miles per hour..that's bad...24 miles max for 8 hours night
People with these buy a house comments are crazy. People own their apartments or condominiums!!! Because it’s just them living alone or they’re contractors who make a lot of money. Just because you don’t own a house and buy an expensive car don’t mean you have to buy a house!! Houses are for “Families” that’s the whole purpose.
Houses in the suburbs are boring hellholes.
14 mph is all we care about.
Feeling lucky i live in a house in Sweden.. 400V 3-phase connector on my garage. 400V 16A that gives me 11kW .. If i increase the fuses going into the house i could get 22kW too.. but thats not worth it.. :) Mostly i charge 8 hours at work every day.. 230V 10A = 2,3kW .. gives me around 16kWh for a day at work :)
What is 400V for in Sweden?
@@richiesd1 It's used for appliances where you need high power that the normal circuit cant take. In Europe we have 230V on one phase and a normal outlet has circuit breakers at 10A so maximum 2,3kW. If you need more than that you can increase the fuse to 16A with thicker cables. If you need more you have to use 3phase (See that as you have 3cables in one with 230V each).. 3phase is used for electric car charging, big compressors, stove, big heatpumps and other appliances using more than 3,6kW...
@@taztaz79, I have never seen any 400V appliances in the home. Having so much power is wonderful for electric car charging for sure.
Here in USA, our public EV infrastructure, such as ChargePoint, is mostly 30 amps at 240V (except for the few fast chargers). I charge every at a ChargePoint station across the street from my apartment. I am lucky to have such a convenient charging option which is not the case for most Americans living in multi-family housing. Buying a house in the suburbs sounds like death to me.
@@richiesd1 the US has 240V for high power appliances though.. i would call that 2phase, dont know if that is the way its connected though. Public charging is 3 phase 32A here mostly. So some electric cars can only take one phase (230V 32A) while Tesla can use 400V 16A (11kW) and Zoe can use 400V 32A (22kW). Most DC fastchargers is 50kW but getting changed to 150kW theese days or even higher.
@@taztaz79 , just curious, are your 240V household outlets run in series in Sweden? Or do you have one circuit breaker for each? In USA, we have a circuit breaker for each 240V, when we have them.
I think in the next 5 years, charging stations will be more standard on every parking spot. At apts and stores. Til then, dont buy a ev if u dont own a house
can aford a 120k tesla but cant own a home lol wtf is wrong with that situation home first then you get the car or apartment wtfffffffffffff how are you affording it in a apartment..
Some people move a lot, which makes buying a house more expensive. Also, only the Model X costs 120K. I swear, people have the strangest ideas about what a Tesla costs. It's an expensive car, but not THAT expensive.
If you live in an apparment I think I would save the money for a house first, but if you are living in an apartment means you financing the car, which is why your living in an apartment. If you can't pay cash for the car, you can't afford it, but if you had the cash you wouldn't be living in an apartment
what did I just read?
+Cyrus Yareff the point of the video went way over their head.
Comfirms the hassle off EV cars, folks will stick to fossil fuels which my car gets 26 mpg in town.
It stinks
if u can afford a tesla...buy a house
A tesla cast 50000-150000$. A good house costs around 450000$. And, what if you're planning on moving or haven't found a good home yet? It's like saying to a person in poverty, "Oh, you can buy milk so go buy a car."
Martin Soendergaard-Jensen You can get a home for much less than $450,000 in alot of places. It's true, people struggling shouldn't be spending even $25,000 on a car
Not so easy in the SF Bay area where the medium home price is over $1 million
And that is for an old house that needs to be remodeled!
not 100% wrong though. i would re-shuffle the wording a bit and say, if you don't have a house, don't buy a tesla
please stop saying "um" and "ah"