Developing nebari and flat rootballs (By proper repotting bonsai)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 มี.ค. 2023
- A good bonsai has a great nebari, and ideally, a shallow, flat rootball. For a bonsai to move into a bonsai pot, a compact shallow rootball is needed. lets see how to work the roots on he bonsai to create better Nebari!
Every time you repot your bonsai there is a change to create a better rootball.
This is of course not thought up by me. It is inspired by the work of Mr. Ebihara and the rootbase he builds on Japanese maples which are supurb!
You really "nailed" that root system Jelle!!!
Thank you! I worked hard at nailing this to get it sit in place!
@@GrowingBonsai Praise from Caesar. Good work indeed.
Great info Jelle! One of my strong root dislikes is when a tree has a big thick ‘foot’ extension at the base.
:) Hard to debate taste :)
Really informative video! Thanks Jelle!
My pleasure!
Very Good tecnic! Thx for showing your Trick ! 👍👍👍
Glad you liked it! Now you show how you do it!
@@GrowingBonsai i take Pond liner and place it under the tree . It Works very well .
Just found your channel. Awesome! Ty
Awesome! Thank you! Do have a look around. I think there are 100+ videos by now. Insane!
Fantastic Jelle! Something I’ve been wanting and waiting to see. Thanks man!
I thought you needed this, so I made it. Anything else I can do for you? ;)
@@GrowingBonsai Thanks man…. That’s what it’s all about!
I have been using old CDs for smaller trees :D works perfectly fine aswell, the hole in the middle is good for drainage and the few roots that grow into it can be easily removed :) Great Video! Cheers 👍💚
Auch ne gute Idee 👍
This works, have you tried sliding the CD over a young whip for ground layering?
@@GrowingBonsai Hey Yes! Seen something similar on the channel "small trees" some time ago! ☺️
@@naturgeist no original ideas in the world, are there!?
@@GrowingBonsai there are a lot of people on the Planet 😅 I have made a Christmas Tree Video that would fit into your Playlist i guess. You might want to check it out. Even tho it was quite a different approach 😂🌿🙏🏼
Vidio yg keren kawan terimaksih shering nya
Terima Kashi!
Well, your method of growing and encouraging beautiful surface roots is something more to try. Good overview and showing examples of the processes you are using. I have mental images of the twin trunk one in about 3-5 years. It’s going to be a stunner. Looking forward to periodic updates on these two and other videos you have produced.
Fingers crossed here! Look forward to hearing you be succesfull!
Thank you for a great tutorial! Cheers from a cold Finland!
Glad it was helpful!
Like always awesome ! Need to left comment to grow this channel ;)
You're the best!
Fantastic process, great video 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
The same, no pancake either. Lovely work, thanks for sharing 👏
My pleasure 😊
Very informative and well done!
I have two similar project trees in the field where I should check the status and put a root barrier underneath them :) you keep me motivated 👍
Go for it! Go out and do the work!
@@GrowingBonsai one question, I don't have a greenhouse and would probably plant them in the ground again, would you wait that the night time temperatures stabilize above zero?
That is another brilliant demonstration and now I will try the same method when i pull out my maple airlayers from the sphagnum later this month. I shall be doing the Jelle approach :)
Good luck! It is not my technique though. It is something a gentleman in Japan name Ebihara uses. See also www.growingbonsai.net/nebari-developmek-ebihara-technique/
That was a new technique for me, very impressive. Amazing to me that the trees deal so well with that. Sure works well!
Yes, great isn't it? By proper health trees handle a lot. I think we can take out trees a level higher by just understanding trees and their growth habits better.
👍👌👌🙂🙂
@@GrowingBonsai Is there a best time in development to start this type of training? Apologies if I missed it in the video.
Agree, I don’t like the “pancake” look either.
:) Love pancakes though!
The reason for trimming back the thick roots is to force the smaller roots to grow larger, correct? And I'm with you, I really dislike the pancake nebari look; I've never seen a maple that looks like that in nature.
Yes and no. I am trying to avoid having a small number of fat roots. So I want to break the growth of the big roots, and give the others a chance to catch up
Nice one , very informative ... Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Impressive results Jelle.
i'm glad you emphasised NOT to do this directly on collected material and that one should wait for collected material to establish new roots before applying this technique.
Thank you. Just a last-minute thought to add that one in to be honest! I would expect people know this but.. You never know.
good
Thanks so much!
Perfect result ❤
Thank you! Cheers!
That’s fantastic!!!
Thank you!
Thanks dr.
Welcome 😊
This video was very helpful to my current fixation in bonsai. I've really been testing the limits of collecting yamadori with big nasty ugly tap roots and trying to make something nice out of them. Patience and persistence it will take.
Patience. Go slow, and let the tree recover before drastic work on the roots.
Great tips! Root tips...😃
Hahaha
Great video Jelle I am growing Hazel trees from seed one of which I ha put a roofing slate in the pot roots seem to be staying flat ..
Great to hear! How is it doing!?
@GrowingBonsai doing really well I cut back the thicker roots to increase growth of the smaller roots plus I am growing them in swallow pond baskets...I am slowly learning through videos from your self and others ....so a big thank you yelle for your help ..
Great vid
:D THx!
my brain expect you to appear in suit like fox mulder and say "the truth is out there" or such every time i see you.. maybe not too many xfiles fans out there left still but, i am =)
good work on trees, this is what bonsai is about to me, progression over time.
Would that tickly your funny bone, if I showed up in a suit one day?
@@GrowingBonsai Absolutely.
Nobody else told you you look like fox mulder on youtube ? maybe not all bonsai audience is "old" like me =)
schönes video ,gute erklärung ,lg
Dankeschon!
Nice Jelle! I was wondering how you make sure that the soil underneath the wooden plate gets moist when watering (as the water also can´t get trough it)?
Good question! I was concerned but realized that if I water well, the substrate carries the water in.
Flat rootball works well in our flat realm. 🤫
yup, shallow pot need shallow root!
Thanks for this video Jelle! Where do you buy those lovely training pots?
I am afraid I just get them at a local garden centre, and that hardware stores here carry them often too. .
@@GrowingBonsai thanks! Here in Sweden you hardly find anything Bonsai related in stores so I have to try find some good online store for bonsai pots… do you have any recommendation?
I have been brainstorming with something similar through the winter. My version just would have a slightly conical shape. Not 0 degree flat boards like yours, but around 15 degree slope. I thought the nebari would look good sticking out of the ground a bit. Would that be considered "proper" in bonsai? It's not quite "exposed root" -style, but they would be clearly proud of the surface. btw good tip to use nails to sort out the roots into their place. I was gonna carve grooves into the wood to hold the roots there. Using nails like that will save me a lot of time, thanks! Can't wait for the polar vortex cold snap to pass and snow to melt!
To me, I prefer to have visible roots at the surface, but well-embedded for the bottom-half. Then naturally diappearing below the surface. (OR Neagari). In-between.. Not for me. But in the end, you need to like it. I think you might find that conical will be too much, but give it a try!
@@GrowingBonsai Thank you for the advice. I'm still very new to bonsai so this is all inspiring adventure of experiment for me. I definitely want to see what the roots will look like, but I understand there are reasons things are done in certain way. It may not look as I now imagine it. After seeing the results you got with a flat board, I now also want to try that out, I'll do both!
Very cool process here Jelle. I normally throw a flat stone under real quick. I may just have to give thos a try. I'm not really a fan of the pancake look either. Thank you for sharing!
Go for it! Aand.. Wait for my field growing video, expected later this month (IF I get it edited in time!). I also often just pop a piece of slate below, which works really well.
nice, how old is that trident?
I have absolutely no idea! It was given to me a few years ago by someone who was annoyed that the cut did not close. I am very sympathetic to that sentiment, because this trident is not rolling the bark as expected.
I would have to imagine when you get a root system that is so spread out and evenly distributed, it has to be the most efficient a root system can get eh?
Yes, I would agree.
Thanks for the video. I've learned a lot from your channel. I have a novice question: do roots grow upward? The rootball for these trees wasn't at the surface level of the pot, it was at a decent depth and the rootball was covered with soil. Is there anything to worry about with the roots growing upward? Or maybe those upward growing roots ( if there are any) are simply pruned off at the next repotting?
Roots grow in 3 dimensions, also upwards. They are "in search" of nutrients and water. And thus also come up. In good substrate the whole pot will fill with roots. I just edit the rootball every time I repot and then upwards growing roots are clipped off.
@@GrowingBonsai Thanks. I appreciate the reply
I got a rootbound young ryusen from the supermarket, im a maple newbie, how can I tell which roots are nebari roots vs bad surface roots?
You will over time have to select to keep roots at the same level on the trunk. Check this out, I think it might help: th-cam.com/video/TFaoTusBKp8/w-d-xo.html
How do they get that pancake look.. it looks really almost fake
It is roots fusing to eachother over time. In nature one does run into pancake merges nebaris.
@Growing Bonsai by Jelle ahh well that's cool tysm for ur response. I really enjoy your content
I ignored that a ball could be flat 🤔...
When is a ball flat? When it is a rootball!
pancake = turttle back apperance
:D
Please say BANZAIIII just once in your vid, that's the only thing missing to make it perfect for me.
great job with the trees, it's interesting.
Banzai ? Why would I do that?
@@GrowingBonsaisome unconscious sentimentalism I guess
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