Napoleon First Clip | Coronation
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- First clip of Joaquin Phoenix in Ridley Scott’s NAPOLEON, showcasing his coronation.
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I went to Notre Dame and was so blown away to stand in the same building where Napoleon was crowned. What a life he led! And even now we still remember him.
too bad that this whole movie was filmed in England
He wasnt crowned, he crowned himself, there is a difference
yeah, sadly... we also remember other lunatics
It is same
The best military Emperor of the era only stopped by a coalition of superpowers
For those interested in the context, the Pope was actually pissed because Napoleon crowned Josephine intermediately after himself, because the women always should wait until the ceremony is over and then be crown, but Napoleon did it on purpose to show his breaking with the tradition
You have a source for the Pope disagreeing with Josephine being anointed and crowned along with the Emperor ? 🐝
Lol, Based
No, he wasn't. The whole thing was staged.
@@NapoleonCallandHis holiness Pope Pius VII was pretty annoyed with Napoleon generally. He had after all kidnapped his predecessor, invaded the Papal States several times (for which Napoleon was excommunicated…again) and Napoleon eventually kidnapped him too.
Now that's a real man right there. Do as your heart wants, not what nonsense dictates.
In reality, Napoleon and Pope Pius VII arranged that he was going to crown himself prior before the ceremony, despite the Pope initially hesitating. But the effect was still profound. It was basically the biggest middle finger he could give to every other major monarch in Europe.
And plus his isn’t the only Empire that had self-coronation.
The Russian Emperors did exactly the same thing (to the shock of literally nobody).
@@jonathanwebster7091the point though is that the pope historically held coronation powers over Europe’s major monarchs, at least the catholic ones. Napoleon crowning himself was essentially a break with major western tradition for monarchs of his ranking and basically said to the pope that “your not of equal standing to me like you were to Charlemagne”. He wanted to maintain his own power which is a crafty move but also one that was quite unprecedented for his time.
@@motivationallizard6644 ironically by the way, when Charlemagne had his eldest (and only surviving) son, Louis the Pious, crowned as co-Emperor in AD 813; it was done without papal involvement.
ITS so freaking awesome that the cinematographer actually referenced Napoleons coronation painting that is hung at the Louvre Museum. that is why the compositions and colors are so wildly appealing. It makes the scene come to life in a way that is indescribable. It's not just a pretty shot but it feels like watching gods and divinity on screen
Wow, calm down. 😅
Not only this painting but also that of Napoleon on his horse looking at the pyramids or that big cat i forgot the name. It didnt happen but it is on the movie.
@@pedromain Napoleon really visited pyramides and sphinx in Egypt.
@@LadyIzolde-sv6vk serious? I have heard on some podcast or something how that scene of him looking at the sphinx you know didnt happened that way or something lol.
@@pedromain Napoleon was very keen on science and even invited a huge staff of scientists, artists and naturalists to Egypt to study the ancient culture of Egypt, Napoleon created a museum there. Actually he is the creator of Egyptology as a science. So he visited the pyramids, it was all very interesting to him.
The way he crowned himself could only mean one thing: absolute power.
It's mainly about not being crowned by the Pope which would give the church the edge on the Emperor just as they had on French kings before
More like State power over Church Power
No, not exactly that.
There are Several meanings.
One of them is the rupture of the Ancient Regime Power Balance. Napoleon was crowned as Emperor of the French (absolutely important distintion from Emperor of France) by the Grace of God and Constitution.
This means that Napoleons Power was coming from his merit as self made emperor an not by "divine rights" nor heritage inheritance. But for the acceptance and approval of the French people.
Napoleon has made himself Emperor by his own actions, and thus he took responsibility for the glories and failures of the Empire and not by others. An meritocratic proof.
State over church, man over deities. Absolute power is the conclusion of the religious.
tyrant power
From being Roman Emperor to being Johnny Cash to being Napoleon...what a career!!!
Don't forget the joker. And he made us believe that he loved a computer program. Man is one of the best
I loath him
@@TuvRaz - Cool.
Don't forget a grizzly bear.
don't forget the Joker, he really touched all extremes
The actual quote: "I found the crown of france in the gutters, so I picked it up with the tip of my sword" its a metaphor that france was in shit and he beat the shit out of everyone and gained his throne.
Lenin said something similar after taking the power in Russia in 1917
It didn't went well for both France and Russia in the end
Napoleon said it in private during his second exile, not at the public, so Scott makes him a banal an egocentric dictator of the caliber of Hitler and Stalin, shame on Scott for it.
we already understood the metaphor
Economies Fail...
.So the Militarizing is the Economy..
the technical detail in this scene is stunningly precise. As if one had entered a time tunnel and emerged at the exact moment Napoleon was being crowned. The arrangement of the courtiers, the lighting of the scene, the portrayal of the actors. Simply stunning
Except the pope was never that close. He was further back knew Napoleon would crown himself and as he did that the pope quietly performed a blessing from afar.
Uh huh, including the random blacks in the audience. I'm surprised Josephine was allowed to be white, because you know, when you really think about it, blacks did all of European history.
If You want things Done Right , You Have to Do It YourSelf
I'm really looking forward to watching this film; for sure going to the movie theatre. The last time I went to the movies was to watch Joaquin Phoenix in "Joker." I really hate going to the movies because, from my standpoint, 90% of what Hollywood produces is cheesy, sophomoric, poorly directed, unoriginal garbage. I'm interested in this flick because I'm a fan of Phoenix's acting chops and an amateur history buff.
@@Carrjimbo Objection your honor, call for speculation.
For anyone wondering: the music is the final movement of Haydn’s The Creation (1797). The most famous musical work circulating at that time. Napoleon got close to being assassinated on the way to a performance of this in 1800.
Supposedly Napoleon stationed a guard of honour outside elderly Haydn’s house during his occupation of Vienna in 1809.
Thanks!
Suck they didn’t use Vitat in Aeturnum
De hecho suena sospechosamente muy parecida a la grabación que hizo Gardiner y los English Soloists para Archiv 😅
In addition to stationing a guard of honor, Napoleon ordered straw spread on the cobblestones of the street outside so the clatter of the horses' hooves would not trouble the composer, who was then dying
You are a hero my friend
The stuttering frames in this clip are magnificent, like an oil painting creaking to life.
That's because that's exactly what it is. It's emulating the oil painting The Coronation of Napoleon by Jacques-Louis David
@@jawn6955 I was about to say that. This entire scene's palette is just the painting going alive.
@@jawn6955so neoclassical
Beautifully put.
Shame the director had to use the same cold overcast instagram-like filter over the shot blocking all the natural light. This is why movies look ugly now.
It’s difficult to put into words how AWESOME it is to hear the final chorus of the Creation in this clip. There isn’t a more suitable occasion for it than the coronation of a king or inauguration of a pope. I know Napoleon was a fan of the Creation so if he did indeed select this music (which I doubt because I read he had other music written)….then the man knew exactly what he was doing.
Haydn's creation has nothing to do with coronation's music, Napoleon ordered a coronation mass for Cherubini and Paisiello. This music is still performed and Scott shows his typical historical ignorance by not including this music to accompany this scene.
@@LadyIzolde-sv6vktrue. And what a terrible pick for casting. Like is he still playing the joker😂
@@-Patrick_Bateman so true, regrettable miscast
He's older irl than Napoléon was when he died... Napoléon stands out because he was young, energetic and extremely charismatic, he comes across as "just another old dude" who's serious and imposing all the time, from everything I've seen thus far @@-Patrick_Bateman
@@LadyIzolde-sv6vk znasz może dokładny tytuł tej pieśni?
I wish Kubrick could've made his Napoleon movie.
Yes 😢
We will get a mini séries from his script.
That's always the way I'd heard the story. That he'd literally crowned himself.
I'd heard that Beethoven had greatly admired Napoleon and wrote some music dedicated to him, but changed the title and the dedication when he heard about this.
The manuscript that bethoven was writing on praise of Napoleon
Beethoven so disgusted at Napoleon crowning himself
Ludwig scratched the music out in anger so deeply it tore the paper .
That was Beethoven's third symphony, Eroica
@@DABS-gx9pt indeed.
Beethoven hoped for an age without tyrants and wrote a piece called Bounaporte to honor the consul of the French Republic.
Then the mad lad crowned himself emperor.
@@die1mayer indeed
Bonaprte was a despot
The French actually had abolished punitive punishment and installed a rehabilitation system for prisoners.prisoners taught crafts and given education lessons
Bonapartes first act was to reintroduce harsh punishment and chains, not books.
When you are French and you see a movie about Napoleon in English...There is nothing we can do
Meanwhile I saw comments beneath a clip from the new Jeanne du Barry movie that said that the movie should have been in english. Some people..!
Wonder if they'll do AI lip synching for the dubbed version, saw a demonstration of it and having Jack Nicholson speaking perfect Swahili was quite profound.
Calm down 1st degre team i was referencing a joke ffs
il fallait gagner Waterloo.
@@MrTwentycent90 True. Damn Prussian
The production, custom designs and cinematography look breathtaking
What I find very amazing here is how similar this scene looks to the paintings of the actual event. Looking forward tot his film!
Yeah, right down to having his mother there though she wasn't IRL.
@@artm1973are you sure it's his mother
The original ceremonial music written for the Napoleon's coronation is not played in this film scene. Now facts: Performed for the first time on Advent Sunday, 2 December, 1804, the grandiose music for the consecration and coronation of Napoleon and Josephine composed for two choirs and two orchestras played a mass, a Te Deum, a march and motets Tu es Petrus, Unxerunt Salomonem, Vivat in aeternum, Accingere gladio composed by Paisiello, Le Sueur and the Abbot Roze and performed by a list of the renowned instrumentalists and singers (the Chef d’orchestre de la musique de l’empereur (Emperor’s conductor), Rey, the violinist Kreutzer (for whom Beethoven wrote his celebrated sonata), the divas, Madame Branchu (soprano), Monsieur Nourrit (tenor) and Monsieur Laïs (bass).
A shame it wasn't televised.
@@Emanuela9 lol yeah
@@Emanuela9 You may saw a great recreation at Jean Bedel Bokassa coronation in Central Africa.
Costumes & outfits designs are so accurate
I know right I’m extremely excited too see This movie
There is a black guy there though, is that accurate? Either go for accuracy or dont.
@ashleyburns6752 at least I saw three and a child
That black general is Alexandre Dumas I believe. Search him up, he’s got a fascinating story
@@brandonquezada9523 A great story indeed, but he and Napoleon had a pretty big falling out in egypt and Dumas was then taken prisoner i 1798 or 99 for a few years i Naples. I'm pretty shocked Murat doesn't seem to be in this film though, but it might be the man next to the black fella as Murat sometimes wore that facial hair. Could the other man be Mortier?
A few historical licenses: the crown was actually waiting on the altar, not carried on a cushion by an attendant; compared to the famous painting by David, Josephine's crown is a bit too big; contrary to popular myth, Napoleon did not snatch the crown from the Pope, he actually informed the Pope beforehand that he would be crowning himself; although the quote about finding the crown in the gutter is accurate, he did not say it at his coronation.
Napoleon's sisters acted as ladies in waiting to Josephine and carried her train (on Napoleon's insistence); they were jealous and hated her, and were constantly tugging on her train.
This comment should have more votes but truth be taking a backseat these days huh
Yeap that’s the main thing that pisses me off in this scene. He did not snatch the crown. It was all planned.
Guess we'll still wait for a historically accurate napoleon movie
This whole movie is an insult to Napoleon's legacy and the real facts.
The ironic thing is that him planning it would have been more interesting for the film and showed how devious he really was - that he wanted to put on a "show". Making it spontaneous and a surprise like that is...a choice, I guess - but it's not as dramatically interesting. And it's an awful voice that Phoenix chose for this, not to mention him having an American accent, which is frankly bizarre. Ridley Scott is not a great director when it comes to characterization and caring about scripts - he's mainly been a visualist - but honestly, even visually, he's just lost it, really. There's nothing about his films that look special anymore. This could have easily been a scene from a series on HBO. It's sad to see.@@alexhousakos
Starting with Napoleon, the term emperor became associated with any large or overreaching state. Although there were exceptions, before that Emperor which derived from the Roman imperator which was one of the titles of the Roman Emperor also denoted continuity with the Roman Empire. The Holy Roman Empire claimed continuity through the crowning of Charlemagne by the Pope as Emperor of the Romans. The Byzantine Empire was ACTUALLY the Eastern Roman Empire. The Ottomans claimed being Caesar by right of conquest of the Byzantines. Russia claimed it due to the ideology that as Constantinople fell to the Ottomans, Russia alone preserved the light of Orthodoxy and thus Moscow became the Third Rome (also somewhat supported that Ivan the Terrible’s grandmother was a Byzantine princess).
Not only the title of Emperor, but the embodiment of Rome’s legacy endured. America built its political system and capital architecture with clear reference to Roman achievement, and Hitler (also Mussolini) tried to copy it through the domination of Europe by the Nazis. Arguably the European Union is the true heir, and the one with legitimacy
Imperator just meant having military authority (Imperium) in the Roman Empire. The official title of Roman Emperors was Princeps civitas (First Citizen). The Byzantine emperors called themselves Basileus (=king).
@@die1mayer The official titles of most Byzantine Emperors were "Basileus and Autokrator"; at that that time Basileus most commonly meant Sovereign, and was rarely used to refer to a King; Autokrator, if you break down its Greek Roots means Self Dominion or Self Power, basically meaning someone who rules on his own. Nowadays their meaning have been flipped in the Greek language where Basileus means King and Autokrator means Emperor.
@@Dionn_I did some readings and apparently autokrator was the translation of imperator in Greek although it isn’t the literal meaning.
What i found so well put is that, since it looks so much like the painting, you'd expect to see the exact same framing as the painting when he crowns Josephine. The colors and the composition match so well that Scott would've just had to set the camera at the right angle. And no : very subtly, when Napoleon crowns Josephine, you actually get a shot a David painting the scene.
The quote he made before putting on the crown was accurate
yes, but he said that quote to his brother in private, not in front of the whole court, I think Ridley Scott is taking some cinematic liberty here
@@psycictree27which is okay, never did Oppenheimer say “I have become death” in the middle of an intercourse 😂
Yeah I can agree it’s at least gives more attraction too the scene another example of this in the movie is Napoleon leading a cavalry charge and Napoleon shooting the pyramids which too be honest are cool aspects too have in the movie
@@Vipashayana. Exactly correct lol and who tf will say that quote in the middle of orgasm ...hahaha
@@unkillable1693 Leading a cavalry charge actually happened, unlike bombarding the Pyramids. 🐝
Think of the effort they had to put into shooting this scene, including costuming so many extras. I don’t know what the budget is for this picture, but every dollar is on the screen in this scene. And we haven’t seen any of the battle scenes yet.
The costumes are so beautiful, aren't they? Napoleon's coronation outfit looks straight out of the paintings of the event.
Hopefully they won’t ruin the movie with CG crap. 😕
@@claudiamanta1943 Aye, hopefully not. Though in truth, from what we've seen thus far, I think it will be very good!
For those who don't know the exact location of the Coronation. He crowned her wife Josephine Emperess and himself Emperor in Notre Dame de Paris in 1804 after he successfully overthrown the First French Republic 1794-1803
As French. I had to learn this Topic when I was in high school which was amazing and interesting. And I got a good mark of it.
There's actually a real painting of that scene 😁
Vive l'Empereur Napoléon Bonaparte
Long live the French Empire
⬛⬜🟥🇫🇷🦅(Golden Roman Eagle pointing his head to the East.
La République nous appelle
Sachant vaincre ou sachant périr
Un Français doit vivre pour elle !
Pour elle un Français doit mourir !
1:16 pay attention to this part, those are French Old Grenadiers Guards, the Elite Regiment of the Emperor (to join if you have to be at least 6feet tall)
Most likely, they are the Original British Grenadiers King's Guard (Bearskin Hat on their head)
Fun fact, there's actually a True Painting from that scene Louvres Museum in Paris
Jacques-Louis David included Napoleon's mother in the painting, even though she didn't attend!
He didn't overthrow the Republic. I'd like to hope Ridley Scott included the Coronation Oath (Article 53 of the Senatus consultum entrusting the government of the Republic to the Emperor of the French), which follows this scene.
Good call about the Grenadiers, but don't forget that the Imperial Guard was composed of infantry, cavalry, artillery, engineers, sailors, and so on. The Foot Grenadiers and Horse Chasseurs get the most screen time, but the Foot Chasseurs and Horse Grenadiers deserve as much.
🦁 ☀️ 🐝 ⚡ 🦅 ⚡ 🐝 ☀️ 🦁
🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝
🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝
🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝
🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝
Yeah, yeah, any reasonably educated person knows all that, you don't have to be French to know that stuff! Don't patronise us, French personne!
@@joesix-pack4022 Just for a sneak peek
@@christophermichaelclarence6003
Por que el aguila mira al este ???
It was such a spectacle that Napoleon aged 30 years :O
What's?? He look really old, on this scene
@@CleeonWell, it doesn't help that the actor is nearly 50 years old and they don't bother trying to deage him.
@@heartvladimir5522 hmm... But, from my experience with movie from USA, Hollywood make up artist can do much better to make the actor look younger
@@heartvladimir5522Deaging doesn't look that good anyway.
Especially, when the actor is famous and you already know his real age
@@CleeonNot really
HISTORICAL ANACHRONISM: Napoleon actually made this comment when he arrived in Paris to retake power at the commencement of the Hundred Days in 1815. It's a bit odd to hear him say it in this context, when he is newly assuming the imperial title for the first time. But that's Ridley Scott for you!
This clip is when French Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte came to power by crowning her wife Josephine Emperess and himself Emperor.
There's actually a painting of it in Louvre Museum
The whole film is a Historical false / anachronism. So disgusting from the manner of treating the historical facts to very old actor as Napoleon((
Just Americans making a film about European history 😊
@@guepierp yeah, lol but the weirdest thing is that the director is British
@@LadyIzolde-sv6vkwell the british never had much respect for napoleon anyway
Incredible reconstruction of a famous painting. This is the only movie watching this year. Sick and tired of having watched five mediocre movies in the theater this year. Thus looks to be a masterpiece.
wdym you just said you watched five in the theater already
@@kubli365lol
Napoleone crowned himself to emphasize he was self-made and not beholden to the Pope.
Louis XVI was beholden to the Pope and it cost him his head.
Napoleon*
This scene alone is worth the price of the admission ticket
🙊🙉🙈
Now I think u just saw the whole movie being inaccurate which turned out 😂😂😂
@@memergas740this scene alone is as accurate as history gets
Well watch the coronation scene of the napoleon 2002 miniseries is way better and less cringy
History is even more interesting, as he is supposed to have said, "I have dethroned no one. I found the crown in the gutter. I picked it up with my sword, and the people put it on my head." While he did not say this at the coronation, and I don't mind that part, I felt the historical quote is far more powerful than what JP says in the clip.
I’m sorry, I can’t get beyond Joachim’s accent and raspy delivery. He looks and sounds like Joachim Phoenix and nothing like what we imagine to be Napoleon.
So how do you imagine Napoleon to sound like?
I mean we have no clue what his voice was like, imo it's better to have Phoenix speaking like himself and not with a goofy attempt of imitating a french accent, I had enough of that with Jared Leto trying to sound Italian
Well for one thing, I imagine NB to sound like he could speak loudly enough for hundreds of soldiers, at least, to hear him outdoors before a battle giving a harangue, which he did many times. Loud enough and energetic enough to inspire. Loud enough to fill every crack of Notre Dame with that speech - which he never gave, but that’s okay.
Exactly!! Finally someone bringing up what I've been saying since the first trailer released. I don't completely agree with him being casted as the Emperor. Perhaps someone with more of a French accent, even if it's a popular French actor that's not too famous in Hollywood just for the sake of some amount of historical accuracy or to at least give that illusion to the casual viewer. From what I've seen so far the movie has been way too englishized. How much more epic would it have been if instead of shouting "long live the Emperor" the cathedral echoed "vive l'empereur"? Besides the flags and the name Napoleon, this has not been presented in a french setting anywhere near what I was expecting.
No one cares, kid
Josephine is a beauty here and at the same time really resembles an empress! But Napoleon looks clearly older than his years and, in addition, the actor’s rough features are at odds with my ideas about the great Corsican!
Exactly
The quote this is reference to is when napoleon said to Charles Tristan, marquis de Montholon, while on St Helena: "I have dethroned no one. I found the crown in the gutter. I picked it up and the people put it on my head.” Notice how in reality, he claimed it was the people, not himself, who crowned him emperor. This is because he was "elected" as emperor (although he did fudge the results to be 99% in favour, the real results were still overwhelmingly in his favour)
Christian Clavier was probably the best Napoleon I’ve seen on film. Phoenix’s seems like a psychopath. Napoleon, while he could be egotistical and brutal, was quite capable of warmth, humor, and had loads of charisma.
Exactly. Phoenix is too tough, too strict, too...
Depressed. Joker style.
the voice of Napoleon ... this will be paiunful to watch
Thought the same thing.
When he was crowned emperor, Napoleon was just 35. Joaquin is 49. Viewing this clip, I do not get a sense of Napoleon's youthful vigor, which according to many accounts was a big part of Napoleon's persona, charisma.
Totally agree with you
The balls of this man
OverSimplified intensifies 😂
Reference information about Napoleon coronation song in this video
・0:01-0:10 In this video：Haydn: The Creation Nederlands Kamerkoor, Concerto D’Amsterdam & Klaas Stock (2009) | DW Classical Music | th-cam.com/video/EuIs7R2BpvQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Ci0ks16y7Hk-62R9 | 1:36:46-1:36:55
・1:35-1:55 In this video：Haydn: The Creation Nederlands Kamerkoor, Concerto D’Amsterdam & Klaas Stock (2009) | DW Classical Music | th-cam.com/video/EuIs7R2BpvQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Ci0ks16y7Hk-62R9 | 1:38:52-1:39:12
The choir is singing an excerpt of Beethoven's "Choral Fantasy" as Napoleon and Josephine exit. He wrote it in 1808. Napoleon's coronation took place in 1804, so the music wouldn't be composed for another four years. Besides, Beethoven hated Napoleon for declaring himself emperor and crossed out his dedication of the Third Symphony, "Eroica" ("Heroic"), because of it.
Music for Napoleon's coronation was specially written by Paisiello and Le Sueur, Le Sueur created the main melody - Marche du sacre (the Coronation march), which was to be re-used for the coronation of Charles X.
This is actually Haydn's Creation Oratorio (die Schöpfung), which was composed 7 years prior to this coronation. Its celebrating God for the creation of the world
Almost certainly wasn't actually used in this ceremony but I like the idea that napoleon had such an ego that he placed himself up there with the universes creation
@@jasonwalker7170 actually Napoleon has nothing to do with such an ego. Actually on Christmas Day 1800, Napoleon had an assassination attempt organized by England while on his way to the premiere of Haydn's The Creation. It was a huge bomb that killed more than 40 people and blew up half a block. So this Haydn piece is here in a dubious context.
Incorrect - this is the final movement of Haydn’s The Creation
bookmark@@leoperarm
I am French and I would like to explain the importance of this gesture. Napoleon did not snatch the crown from the hands of the Pope. It was of course a deal planned in advance: I reestablish Christianity in France (banned since the Revolution) and you let me crown myself because “it was the people who put it on my head” . Indeed, Napoleon was proclaimed emperor by the Senate in May 1804 following a plebiscite (the majority of people voted in favor). This gesture takes Europe out of the "Middle Ages" and brings it into the modern world: the emperor (or the king) no longer derives his power from God, but from the people (and from himself, since it is the original self-made man). It guarantees the Constitution, the principles of freedom and equality before the law, reconciles the French in civil war (Christians VS atheists; nobles VS revolutionaries) while safeguarding numerous achievements of the Revolution. France then becomes a republic governed by an emperor.
The masterpiece of J. Louis David!! Such great majesty & high Destiny hidden in this portrait
I now proclaim Napoleon of the House Bonaparte, first of his name, King of the French People, Breaker of Chains & Protector of the French Empire. Long may he reign.
Emperor*, king is a lower rank than Emperor
All the costumes look fantastic.
Napoleon crowned himself--but it was planned in advance, not done last minute as shown here. Also, that quote, "I found the crown of France in the gutter..." is authentic, but was said later, not at the coronation.
You can see his mother Letizia in the background, but in reality she was not there. In the famous picture from Jacque Louis David you can see her, because Napoleon gave the arrangement to paint her in.
Napoleon is a total gigachad for breaking the ceremony to crown himself instead of having the catholic priests crown him
The Pope didn't declare "The emperor Napoléon is crowned and enthroned" - it wasn't something incumbent to the pope, but to an "héraut" (herald). The ceremony was a very long one and not a 2 minutes affair as it appears here. There was certainly a better way to show the greatness and the pomp of the ceremony, I think...
1:16 Napoleon's Imperial Guard (Old Guard)
I think Joachim Pheonix's voice doesn't suite the character at all if I'm honest.
On the one hand stunning costuming, production design. Like the David Painting come to life. On the other hand not totally sure what Joaquin is doing. Seems a bit like a Marlon Brando impression.
Definitely intrigued though.
He's literally being Joaquim lol, he's always like that
The Date in which Napoleon was Crowned and his greatest victory at Austerlitz (December 2nd) is my Birthday!
Cant wait to see this movie! Napoleon, what a remarkable man....truly another Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar!
I’m very excited for this film. Ridley Scott will always have a place in my cinematic heart❤
For some context, I'm not sure if Nepoleon said that, but Pope Pius VII was basically a prisoner of Napoleon and forced into this ceremony but in the end, Napoleon's in his inflated ego, took the crown from the Pope and crowned himself. So, I don't know what the point was of kidnapping the Pope. He had a very coplicated relationship with the Church and a very complicated relationship with his wife. Ah, Napoleon, such a contradictory, interesting but ultimately tragic character. Let it be a lesson to all of us about not letting your ego rule you.
In reality, he really said this sentence, but not during the coronation. Apart from his oath pronounced at the end ("I swear to maintain the territory of the Republic etc."), Napoleon remained silent during the ceremony. As for the pope, he was taken prisoner in 1809, so 5 years later. The pope agreed to be humiliated in this way during the ceremony (that he crowned himself, even if it was planned in advance ) because Napoleon had reestablished Christianity in France (persecuted by the Revolution).
History will remember that for 10 years this guy, through his will alone, resurrected the Western Roman Empire.
And saved France from being torn asunder 15 different directions by the vultures of Europe in the aftermath of the Revolution. France is truly eternal because of Emperor Napoleon's actions against the Coalition.
Impero? Pseudoimpero!
Ridley Scott is famous or infamous for altering the details of history to make a better movie (Gladiator) but he may be on thinner ice with more recent events like the Napoleonic era. In this case the facts are interesting enough to render unnecessary the Hollywood standard BS. Let's hope he holds to the truth.....
I doubt it. There's a listing in the cast on IMDB for "Cardinal" but not Pope Pius VII, whom the real Bonaparte pulled this stunt in front of, and in the event said nothing.
Wow. What a completely candy ass, "I have sand in my..." excessively PC response
ESTA, LA ULTIMA PELICULA DE NAPOLEON TIENE UNAS INCONGRUENCIAS IMPERDONABLES, FUE HECHA POR INGLESES PARA LA GLORIA BRITANICA, NO SOY FAN DE NAPOLEON PERO HAY QUE MANTENER LA HISTORIA Y NO INVENTAR TANTO.
One of the few best scenes in entire movie
Napoleon is one of the greatest, effective and progressive legislators and rulers in history. As aptly said, Napoleon did in 10 years what monarchs could not do in 100 years. He is the creator of a modern civilization, a cosmopolitan and a harbinger of the political unification of Europe.The coronation ceremony took place on December 2, 1804 in Notre Dame de Paris. As the heir of Charlemagne, he was crowned by the Pope. The whole ceremony was arranged in advance and the pope knew that Napoleon himself would lay the crown. The emperor did not say any words at the coronation. Napoleon was proclaimed emperor of the French by the Senate and the establishment of the Empire was approved by a popular plebiscite. The title of emperor has nothing to do with the absolute monarchy destroyed during the Revolution, the Empire was a constitutional form of government with a multi-institutional administrative system. Napoleon saved France from death: he pacified the civil war, tamed horrific criminality, restored agriculture, industry, the economy that was on the verge of bankruptcy, established a modern banking, tax, administrative system, established the Bank of France, adopted the famous Civil code of Napoleon, which underlies Western democracies, encouraged science and art, approved the best principles revolutions - equality of all before the law and the court, abolition of privileges and economic freedom, introduced freedom of religion and separated the state from the church. He freed the Jews from the ghetto and equated them with the Europeans. He was not a conqueror, he always wanted peace and concluded it with the European monarchies after coming to power, but England did not want peace and soon criminally terminated it. The proclamation of the Empire was connected with the need to strengthen power and prevent the restoration of the Bourbons, since England organized more than 20 attempts on Napoleon, and, at the same time, Napoleon wanted to speak with European monarchs on equal terms, since they did not recognize the republic. Exactly one year later, on December 2, 1805, Napoleon celebrated his coronation by winning one of his greatest triumphs - the victory of Austerlitz.
the republic did most of that tbh monarchy is cringe
@@tonuka6257 Napoleon preserved it, First French republic was a chaos and when Napoleon became a First consul France was literally dying. The corrupted Directory killed it.
didn't his government also reinstate slavery in French colonies and the race laws including laws about interracial marriages that the Revolution (for all it's letdowns and violence) banned?
@@agenttheater5 slavery was abolished in the colonies not out of love for freedom, but because France in 1792 declared war on England and, realizing that England would quickly take over the French colonies, abolished slavery there to form a pro-French opposition. When the Peace of Amiens returned the colonies to France, Napoleon needed money to rebuild the destroyed French economy. The colony, where a bloody massacre had been going on for 10 years, was not given any money. Napoleon did not formally restore slavery, but allowed slave labor in the colonies cause the pro-slavery lobby was very influential and the abolition of slavery caused the decline of all the coastal cities in France. Napoleon in 1815 abolished slavery and banned it.
@@agenttheater5 He didn't brought back slavery, slavery was still in practice even as some legislators outlawed it, for convenience, also the colonies were pro slavery and never abolished it as they intermediately went to Britain side. The colonies that declared free remained free,
They got the casting backwards. Napoleon was younger than Josephine. They shoulda hired a younger actor.
Much younger - he was 30 years old during this event irl, casting another 50+ old man defeats the purpose and part of the legend of Napoléon.
@@gronizherz3603Napoleon was 35 during this event (1804), not 30. And people in those times looked older than their age.
This is definitely going to be a Mythology of Napoleon rather than any kind of historically accurate film - and I think that was the best way to direct it! Looking forward to seeing Joker Napoleon fr.
This is nearly exactly what happened
it's an anti-mythology I'm afraid which is much worse, well, Scott is a typical British...
@@adamseidel9780 No, it is not. Napoleon did not snatch the crown from the Pope, this was all preorganized, and the Pope knew Napoleon was going to crown himself. The Pope was sitting behind the Emperor, near the altar. Napoleon did not say any line about finding the crown of France in a gutter during the coronation. He did not physically place the crown on his head, he just sort of held it above.
@@adamseidel9780 - LMAO! No it isnt, but thanks for proving my point about this film being Mythology rather than history.
@@operafairy - I sincerely hope not and that British people would find Napoleon compelling today rather than ignanimus.
01:35 epic music
December 2, 1804, the day Napoleon and Joséphine were crowned Emperor and Empress of the French.
"And place it atop my own head." Love the subtle delivery here. Whether it was the actor or the director's choice, the entirety of the dialog delivered in a low-key manner is perfect. So many other productions would have forced this moment with the actor raising his hands and shouting. Great choice here.
But the real Napoleon was very charismatic and boasted about his accomplishments.
There were 20,000 people there, in order to be heard he would have had to, like when he took the oath of office.
0:29 As soon as he saw the crown, he went after it.
I had no idea there were so many black people in France in 1804. Is this accurate, genuine question?
It's the general Dumas
It is accurate
Watching Napoleon speak English is like watching Churchill speak German.
Hmm... What?
I imagine you meant 'hearing Napoleon speak English'...
@@frontenac5083 thank you 😊
It would never do well in French
@@MrATate-bz1it In 2004, Mel Gibson's film The Passion of the Christ was filmed in Aramaic, Hebrew and Latin and was a worldwide success.
Any chance we can clone him back?
We all badly need it indeed.
Do you even know what this guy thinks about Blacks? I would not want him back. His ancient and old.
@@pilotmanpaulwho cares about blacks... those slaves deserve no freedom ffs
@@pilotmanpaul without him you would live in much worse world than ours , don't judge a man who lived 200 years ago with the modern standards, he was a pioneer of his time.
@@pilotmanpaul If you read his memories he made clear that he liked and regretted (the only thing he actually did) for not letting the blacks in the colonies be free. Although in his defense contrary to what some say he never went back or rolled back rights of them
Crazy that Joaquin Phoenix played an Emperor…twice.
Les costumes sont splendides 🇲🇫🦅
This will be utterly amazing movie, very excited for it. What makes him impressive in many ways is that he was a self made emperor and conqueror
This movie is so immaculate and Joaquin still thinks he’s playing the Joker😂. WHERE IS THE EMOTIONAL AND CHARISMATIC NAPOLEON?
@@-Patrick_Bateman Napoleon was only charismatic to the french, like Hitler to the Germans.
Not only was he a self-made emperor and conqueror, but he crowned himself Emperor at 30 years of age - casting someone who is 50+ years old defeats the purpose.
He was also shorter than the actor. Where the term Napoleon Complex comes from.
@@Emanuela9Napoléon was of average height for his time. The myth that Napoléon was short and was compensating for this short height has been debunked again and again; I didn't even know anyone still believed in it.
Truly in him was another Aurelian, and the genius of Hannibal. He was the God of War incarnate. A savior of Europe. France could save itself and all the rest of the Western world if God would just give us back, Emperor Napoleon...
Joaquin Phoenix is going to kill this role
that's right, there is nothing left of Napoleon, he is simply unrecognizable, horrible
Yeah Phoenix looks too old for 1804 looks like Napoleon smoked too much
@@pancakemacbuttery9142 also as if he drank too much lol
Is there a role that Joaquin has undertaken that he hasn't killed?
Seriously though, has there ever been a bad performance from Joaquin or was there ever one from his late brother River?
Have you seen any other versions? I liked Armand Assante when he did the role in the TV series in late 80s
whatss the point of making a historical movie if is not going to be accurate with history?
search up about general dumas
@@lemonkesyndicate6788 Alexandre Dumas wasn´t black , he was mulatto and thats a exception
I cannot wait, another Ridley Scott MASTERPIECE.
@@Bremsterr Eric Cantona?
Filmed in Lincoln Cathedral !
The fact that he was named emperor still blows my mind.
Absolutely stunning ❤️
For those who don't know the exact location. He crowned himself in Notre Dame de Paris in 1804 after he successfully overthrown the First French Republic 1794-1803
@@christophermichaelclarence6003thank you! ❤
@@Vipashayana. Check out a this Napoleonic Military March song "La Victoire est à nous". I'm sure you'll like it
To think that he was HATED by the OG french nobles only to become the most famous/infamous of all French royalty is just so crazy to me. Sad that they aren't going historically accurate with this movie as you don't need to add any drama to his story for it to be great.
"I am the instrument of providence, she will use me as long as I accomplish her designs, then she will break me like a glass"
- Napoleon I, Emperor of the French
Did he refer to providence as "she" in the original quote? Intriguing if that's true, considering Napoléon probably was not christian.
@@gronizherz3603
Napoleon never had much interest in religion, though he did have a great fascination with Islam judging by his experience in Egypt. Other than being used as a tool for securing his political goals, religion is nothing more than a byproduct of having to rule over millions of people. In the statement he gave above, he basically called himself an agent of god. This is one such example of Napoleon's usage of religion in order to inspire his people to have faith in their newly crowned Emperor.
Yes, the original quote use 'she', because in french (and others latin languages), there are two genders for words. And providence, in french, has a female gender.
That makes a lot of sense, merci for the explanation :)@@thierryfromgwada9312
The concepts of DC super villains origins are getting more and more interesting.
Vilains who destroy monarchy in Europe ? Its more like hero lol
1:17 David sketching away, thinking..."This is gonna be great!"
0:29 le passage de l'Ancien Régime au monde moderne.
Dear Joachin Phoenix,
I just wanted to say how incredibly talented you are and how much I admire your dedication to your craft. You truly bring characters to life on the screen in a way that is both mesmerizing and inspiring.
I urge you to continue following your dreams and passions, despite any negativity or obstacles that may come your way. Your portrayal of Napoleon was truly remarkable and it's clear that you have a gift for bringing historical figures to life on the screen.
Keep pushing forward and never let anyone bring you down. You have a bright future ahead of you and I can't wait to see where your talents take you next.
Keep shining bright,
Eleonoire La Renard. Note:this is dedicated to the actor himself
It's not really his fault but I see the Joker in a different costume.
Why did they make Napoleon much older looking? When he was younger than Josephine.
In the 1805 painting by Jacques-Louis David - 'The Coronation of Napoleon' (commissioned by Napoleon himself) - there is not a single Black person. I count 5 in the immediate vicinity, including the altar boy. This seems unlikely. New Academy Award rules?
General Dumas was black, but he was not present at the ceremony. Logically there were none.
A painting is not a photography, also it took years to be colored, Napoleon had a respectable number of gens de coeur in his officer corp
@@omarbradley6807 you are wrong on many levels. Firstly - 'gens de couer' means 'people of the heart'. Perhaps you meant 'gens de couleur'? The only Black soldiers I'm aware of were battling Napoleon - specifically Black soldiers in British regiments at Waterloo - no officers. You say Napoleon had a 'respectable number' of Black officers in the Grande Armee - where did you get that nugget of B.S.? Napoleon Bonaparte re-instituted slavery and racial laws in 1802 - kicking all Blacks out of the army (except for Joseph Serrant and a number of Pioneers, who were essentially slaves) - before his coronation in 1804. It was his re-institution of slavery, that led to the defeat of the French and the independence of Haiti in 1803 (and decided to negotiate the Louisiana Purchase). As far as the Ladies-in-Waiting - I think Scott saw 'Hamilton' - liked the play, read the new Academy Award rules - and plopped them in. I think one would be hard pressed to find a Black altar boy in Notre Dame de Paris in the 20th century, let alone the beginning of the 19th.
@@Mike-hp2ddbefore taking offense at historical facts, you yourself should be historically accurate. 1.the person of color seen in the video is thomas alexandre dumas. He is the father of the writer Alexandre Dumas (The Three Musketeers, The Count of Monte Cristo). he was one of the best French generals during the revolution and also under Napoleon before sok coronation. Napoleon even chose him to command the cavalry of the Army of the Orient. It is the most prestigious post of the Egyptian expedition; Murat and Davout are placed under his orders. he was dismissed in 1802 because of several disagreements with Napoleon. he died in 1806. so it is very likely that he was present during the coronation of the emperor in 1804. 2. Napoleon reestablished slavery in 1802. but that did not concern freed blacks. there were many black non-commissioned officers and officers before the revolution and under Napoleon like Joseph Bologna de Saint George. it was only from 1805 that their civil rights became quite restricted. But many benefit from special authorizations.
yes, hollywood standards 🤢
No one has seemed to complain that he's being crowned in Lincoln Cathedral here, a very English gothic setting and an odd choice for a notre dame look alike.
Well I'm guessing this was filmed around the time Notre Dame was closed to the public due to the fire that broke out in 2019. It did a lot of damage so it was probably deemed unsafe to film inside. Not to mention the delays in repairing it because of the Covid lockdowns.
Were you expecting them to actually film at Notre Dame? Place went ablaze in 2019 and has spent almost 5 years being reconstructed
Background music is Joseph Haydn: The Creation
Napoleon and Alexander the Great are my two favorite conquerors of all time. Ambitious men, I love it. You don't need people to crown you when you can crown yourself as emperor. Periodt.
I don't know. It feels too short for such huge moment.
I much prefer the version with Clavier and Rossellini. Still excited for this, though!
There wasn't any sub-Saharans in France during the 19th century....
1:33 and 1:17
what was the point of this and why?
This is general Dumas
@@roguefrantzy6583 1 creole doesn't equate to this.
sub-Saharans were not in Europe and this is already known.
@@philly442Dumas whas Black so i don't understand
They even went as-far into detail as to include a cameo of Simón Bolívar near the end of this clip.
I just come back from cinema. This movie is bad. I mean it is really, really bad. The only and partially factual bit in it, is the relation between Bonaparte and Josephine (and that is half of the movie). The rest is so loosely connected to history, so hopelessly misinterpreted that is unwatchable. Yes, there are two (2) battle scenes worth seeing. And that’s about it. Btw I didn't know Napoleon was on drugs for most of his career, because actor playing him definetly had to be.
I realize his fans will hate me for saying this, but Joaquin is miscast as Napoleon. They should have gotten a talented unknown who could give a unique interpretation, like Peter O'Toole in Lawrence. This just doesn't look right.
You know what really makes me shudder is that Napoleon was only 35 when he Became emperor which in this modern day your average 35 year old may just be sitting around still playing video games and working a 9-5 take that in everyone maybe some 35 year olds could be working a more successful job tho that’s 40% of your average 35 year old
34* 😉
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if you think an emperor at 35 is noteworthy read up on Alexander the Great 🤯
@@hunsinyobum Alexander the Great was born heir to the Kingdom of Macedonia. Napoleon the Great became Emperor by a vote of the Senate and the People after stunning military campaigns and civil reforms. 🐝
@@hunsinyobumAlex just inherited a already powerful kingdom meanwhile Napoleon is literally nobody in the start and become Great when reach 30 .
Oh I’m aware of Alexandre he started his career at 16 which my friend we all know what modern 16 year old boys are like today…
Kind of wished he’d at least fake a French accent. Also, I didn’t realize phoenix was only two inches taller than the real napoleon.
I read the two inch taller fact myself a few days earlier. But I always look for the credibility in both energy and personality in the character that the actor is playing, that is what is most important to me in what makes a good actor.
Costumes and art direction looks great. But i dont like how Joaquin Phoenix is portraying Napoleon.
What's cool about this movie is they apply the lighting effect of paintings of the period.
The artist is shown sketching the scene in this very clip. What fun!