Saving a 1948 Delta/Rockwell Milwaukee 14" Band Saw- Partial Restoration and Tune-Up
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- Fixing up this classic 1948 Delta Milwaukee Band Saw that I scored off Craiglist. In this video I'll change the tension spring, replace the tires with urethane bands, clean up the original paint, and show you some tips for getting yours in top shape. I love the character of the old paint so I'm keeping this saw as is. It will be used hard and passed down to my daughter some day! Subscribe, Like, Share and Comment! Thank you for watching!
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Did you used 1” wide tire ?
here's the tires I used: goo.gl/qLnMMy
Yes, it was a 1" tire. It was labeled as "Jet" but 14" is 14". Fit perfectly.
Replaced the drive belt with a Harbor Frieght link belt and it ran smooth!
Several years ago, I completely rebuilt my early 40’s Delta 14” wood/metal saw. Removed several layers of paint and repainted it. Also replaced all the bearings, even the ones in the hi/low gearbox and the blade guides. I also replaced the tires with the same ones you used, and replaced the blade guide blocks with Cool Blocks. Also installed a two speed motor. I also made a new rear blade guard out of some scrap walnut, and built my own fence system. Most of my machines in my wood shop are old Rockwell Delta anywhere from the 30’s thru the early 70’s. Many I’ve completely rebuilt.
Nice old machine. I have a 1948 Milwaukee wood and metal cutting band saw that I rebuilt. When resawing wood, I bring the top blade guide down to within a half inch of the workpiece. That ensures the blade will track straight and gives a much straighter cut. Also, when cutting metal, it's essential to get that top blade guide down as close to the workpiece to make sure the blade is properly supported.
You're like the Bob Ross of machinery. I like your enthusiasm for even the smallest bits on vintage items. And you are absolutely right, the machining is awesome, no computer can replicate handwork!
Looks to be the exact saw I got from my grandfather's shop.Ready to give it a tuneup!
Any restoration is worth the time, The 10 inch is a good saw that can be reused
I have the exact same saw! I bought it about 35 years ago in a estate sale. I built a box to cover the pulleys. I haven't used it in a few years and now need to replace the tires. This video was very helpful!
Thanks!
Just restored the same bandsaw in no time thanks to all those great tricks! Thanks!!
awesome, glad to hear my video helped! such great saws, enjoy yours in good health!
What an awesome job. Thank you so much for showing.
Nice job. I have the same saw and it runs great just like yours. The tool you got with the tires is for equalizing the tension of the tire. Run it around between the tire and wheel a few times and the tension evens out.
What a great old band saw! Informative video, I am now more knowledgeable now than I was before the video! Thanks
I inherited one of these exact saws about a month ago. You had my subscription when you used the two nut method to get that bolt off. Awesome!
I've got that same saw, but mine has a riser. The guy I got it from looked like he used it for cutting metal. It doesn't look like it hurt it though. Mine doesn't have the guards, which sucks. I like the belt cover you made that I saw in another one of your videos. I had to take it off the stand so I could wrestle it down stairs, and those square nuts kinda sucked getting off, but I was like you when I got em off, I appreciated the craftsmanship of them. Most of my tools are old Rockwell, or old craftsman. It's cool to see guys like you who are into old tools. Like your videos. Peace
Sweet 👍🏻 👍🏻
Just wanted to say thanks for this video - I have this exact saw in my basement and want to get it back up and running well.
great video! enjoyed how you explained a lot of what you were doing.
Enjoyed the video.
I have a 1947 model just like the 1948 model you have. It belonged to my dad.
Wrote to Delta several years ago and they sent me a manual reprint for it. Sent the serial number which they said made it a 1947 model, same as me.
About to order my second set of tires for it. Put a set I got from Rocklers on about ten years ago. They lasted pretty well I would say. They had a lot of use.
Thanks!
Loved your video and the tip about using jam nuts to loosen the bold is one I will use in the future.
Thanks for the video! I'm going to look at the identical saw with a 6" riser block tomorrow, if it's in half as good of shape as yours I'll be picking it up.
I have the same Delta Milwaukee bandsaw, been in my family since before I was around and I recently replaced the tires, bearings and guide... Runs like a champ!
Where did you get the parts for yours? I’m lookin for bearings.
@@johnnyhaze8 please did you find bearings, i need the bottom blade guide.
I love seeing old stuff being brought back into its prime. I have a 14" Walker Turner that looks similar to your saw. I need to go through the same set of improvements
jackfrost1031 thanks man, they made them to last back then! I love those walker Turners too. If I had the room and money, would look to get an 18" or larger
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thanks a lot for this sharing i got this saw for free and I now I know how to proceed for repair mine 🤟🏼
Picking up my late 50s delta tomorrow. Thanks for the info. I can’t wait to clean it up. I’ll try and get some video of the restore up as well.
That's awesome, good luck, I subbed so i'll look forward to seeing it restored!
As a maker I love seeing old tools come back from the dead!!! With up keep that Delta will last multiple lifetimes:)
Mitch Deitrich I will, these things are bullet proof! Thanks brother!
Nice score Kyle! I can't believe what good condition that was in for 1948! Great video my friend thanks for sharing!
Thanks Opa, yes it's a great, bulletproof machine! Sadly, I found out that the seller removed the original fence and rails and sold them on ebay before I got there. I might have to build my own
Great job! New tools are great but there’s nothing like well restored old ones
Thanks Paul!
Thanks, great video. I have a very old Rockwell bandsaw that was given to my that I plan on fixing up. I am not going to “restore” it. Other videos I’ve watched spend too much time on making the saws look new. I just want it to work properly. Thanks again.
I have the same Model from 1953 runs like its new!!!!! Great video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I shopping around for a used band-saw myself and plan to clean it up when I find one.Great stuff
awesome Frank, keep watching Craigslist and look for one of these Delta/Rockwells or a Powermatic. Shoot me a message if you find one, would love to see it!
Frank, are you near NYC? I found this in Easton PA. Price is high but I think it's a wood/metal saw which are harder to find allentown.craigslist.org/tls/d/delta-rockwellbandsaw/6413243655.html
Jam nuts!
There was a time when we used to build beauties like this
I am watching your video. Great job! One sugjestion when changing band saw tires. Clamp one side of the tire and then work it around. Try it you may like it.
Awesome Job
Thanks Clifford
Thank you for sharing
No problem, thanks for watching, Bob!
Looks like it runs great. Defiantly do the other one.
ok, thanks! I'm ordering parts for it now
Would love to see you refurbish the other bandsaw my friend!!! GREAT VIDEO!!!
Orange Rocket thanks man!! Alright will do on the other bandsaw!
great video
Thanks!
I enjoyed the restoration. Please share the other saw's restoration.
ok, thanks Sean!
great video and lets see the other bandsaw refurbished
thanks Ken, ok will do my friend!
Cool deal
thanks man!
I just bought a 1947 delta drill press last week, it was in perfect shape and needed no work. Love this bandsaw though.
Great score you got there Jack! Thanks, yeah I love these old tools....something about them just resonates with me!
My Grandpa had one just like this.
Very well done! couple of questions- how did you determine the proper tension? Do you leave the blade under tension when you've finished a project?
nice work.
Thanks Robert!
Hi Kyle: Thanks for this video. I came across what appears to be the same saw today and bought it. I sent you an email regarding the saw. Thx. John
Love the video and the machine. I have the same one, what size tires and how did you date this bandsaw?
Hey Kyle , you got this old man thinking 💭 . I bought a new Grizzly 555 band saw last year! And the dust collection pretty much sucks !!!!!!!! So I have to try some of your tricks!!!!! Thanks!! Regards BobLee
Bob Lee's Woodshop awesome, glad it may have inspired some creative solutions for you buddy! Thanks and enjoy the Superbowl! Go Eagles!
I would like to see the other saw restoration. Looks like you cleaned the old delta up well. I had a 14" Rockwell model that was extremely similar. Unfortunately mine had the lower wheel damaged beyond repair.
Ok, will do, thanks Evan. Did you end up finding a new lower wheel or did you part it out?
I have a 1949 model, had to put a motor on it and stand.
Runs great also had to have new tires.
Your machine looks fantastic. I would like to find a original stand for mine.
Liked your Video. We have a Delta/Rockwell Milwaukee 14" Band Saw we think is a 1948. What width size and thickness tire did you get?
Hi
I just bought one exactly like this in great shape.
I had no idea it was so old.
It came without the saw blade.
Can you post a link to where you bought yours?
Thank you
How does the lower thrust bearing work I'm having trouble replacing mine
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Can you tell me where I can find the kits you found for your Delta band saw?
I have a 1946 model Delta 14 inch bandsaw which looks identical to yours including the red Delta/Milwaukee logo. Serial number 43-4483. What is the serial on your saw? Is this considered the 890 series or with open stand 892 series .. Mine has the vertical belt pulley cover. You have a great video .
Nice work ! Do the Atlas as well.
ok, thanks man, already started working on it...cool little machine!
I pretty much have this same one except mine has a gear box that will adjust the speed to cut metal as well. I am also have the tension issue. I gotta get a spring which I never thought of that. I had trouble resawing a smaller piece and it didn't matter how slow I went. The spring makes sense. your guilds are different looking than mine. I have all ball bearings but I think they need replacement cause the uppers look bad and I think the bottoms are original. Not sure how to find those parts. I would love to have a newer and bigger band saw but I could never bring myself to sell this one cause it was my dads. Love the old American made tools.
Nice work. How about fibre washers instead of the red plastic shim behind the wheel housing. Looks great.
I have this saw, what size blade does yours use?
Hey!!! Yo tengo una igualita, misma marca, pero tiene el swich arriba, no abajo como la tuya... gracias
8:45 aweille mon sale!! 🤣🤣 ça ces du bon Québécois 👍
very nice documentation! I have a similar 14 "band saw called Delta-Rockwell built in 1936/1949 - not sure ?! Suspected that they were taken to Germany / Bavaria after WorldWar II from US-Army stocks. Does your model have a gearshift? Greethings from Germany, Robert.
Hey Robert, thank you! Mine has the Rockwell badge on the back. Yours must be a 1949. I found this:
Also in 1945, Rockwell purchased Delta Manufacturing Co., and made it its Delta Power Tool Division. Shortly thereafter, Delta tools were labeled "Delta Rockwell".
So that matches your thoughts on how they got there. Mine does not have the gearshift unfortunately.
Hey, my last name is Bollendorf which is a town in Germany on the border with Luxembourg. I hope to visit someday! - Kyle
New York Central Railroad. :-) Yes repair the ten incher. thanks
Yeah, we need to see the other bandsaw resto! Also, can you provide the contact info for the spring guy? I have an old Craftsman that can't tension.
Ok, cool thanks! He doesn't have a website....very old school. I emailed him to get a catalog but I've read online that he'll answer the phone and walk you through what you need. Here's the info:
Iturra Design
Phone 904-642-2802
Email: KALLL@comcast.net
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Gib Clark thanks, Gib!
how do you date these saws?
Nice a buddy of mine just picked one up from a garage sale for 20 bucks and dropped it off for me too fix....
I have a Delta 14" band saw, probably older than the one you are working on. Can you illustrate how to replace the thrust bearings on that band saw? Thank you.
Id give anything to find a saw like this, there was an old “duro” brand saw near here that was for sale but i guess sold already. Everything here is either rusted shut and missing pieces, costs multiple hundreds or thousands of dollars (because people have seen showroom new ones sell for high figures so of course the beat up old one from grandpas basement must be the same price right?) or its located 3 or 4 hundred miles away. I just want to find an old saw this size, wood and metal cutting, that I can work on myself without a bunch of proprietary plastic parts. But apparently north Carolina has a complete lack of good used band saws unless I wanted to buy a ten year old harbor freight saw for the same price as it’d cost new, and id still have the problem of it being from harbor freight.
I have an opportunity to buy such a saw (maybe the same one) that's complete except for the bracket that holds the table in place. Kind of a major part it seems to me! Do you know if these parts can be obtained?
I do see these saws parted out on ebay occasionally. Send Iturra Design an email and ask him...he sells all kinds of parts and would know. He's old school and doesn't have a website but will mail you an amazing color catalog if you ask in the email: iturradesign@gmail.com
Noticed your tactical plumbing T-shirt. Guess your in the Reading area? I am myself...
Cool, Paul is my brother-in-law!
What is the length of the blade you’re using on this?
93-1/2", check out my channel I have a video called supercharging a delta bandsaw
Have you , or could you saw metal with it ? i know it would need a metal cutting blade , but is the speed to high for metal ? have you tried ?
I believe these are too fast to cut metal. Some of them came with a gear reduction mechanism for cutting metal. I use a metal cutting bandsaw (old harbor freight model)
I thought that would be the case , thanks you for the info
Yes, I actually have one of the wood/metal versions from the early 40’s. It has the two speed gear reduction box. It also has step pulleys for several speeds. And I put a two speed motor on it. Can cut pretty much anything with it with the right blade. A standard wood cutting saw will run too fast for cutting steel, but can cut non ferrous metals like aluminum and brass.
@@notajp I have that same mode. I have no belts for it and it's not obvious to me how each belt should be routed. Could you please advise or send pics?
I have the same band saw and want to add a dust collector to it. Can we have a better view of your band saw dust collector?
Here's some more info on the dust collection from my last video: th-cam.com/video/3QZBd0IQLTc/w-d-xo.html
Unfortunately, not too detailed on the construction of the hopper so I might have to do a more detailed video of that for you...let me know if that would help....
I think I just picked the same saw but the model number is worn. What is yours? Also, any advice on where to find parts like a table for it?
Wes W cool, this is a model 28-207 and for parts you have eBay or Craiglist to find a parts/donor saw. Parts are expensive so it seems many saws are chopped and sold on eBay unfortunately or fortunately depending on how you look at it
Vintage Wood Workshop thanks for the reply!!! This is a really neat machine. Where did you find that sweet belt? For the motor?
Wes W yes, they are built like tanks! Harbor freight sells those green link belts for about $25. I have them on a couple machines and they reduce vibration/noise and you can take links out to customize the size to fit the length you need. So is your saw complete but just missing the table?
Vintage Wood Workshop yeah I almost sprung on a real expensive one not long ago. Glad I held out! Good looks on the belt...HF is great for those random needs. And dust collection haha. It has a plywood top bolted directly to the cast. It needs replacing something fierce at the minimum but it'd be nice to be able to have a tilt feature one day. Nothing immediate though. I'll try to shoot a video of it (bare with me I don't do it often) soon
great, would love to see you fix it up....i subbed your channel
I have what looks like the exact same saw. It's serial# is 71-4695. That's all the info I see on the plate. I can't seem to find a model# to get correct parts. I am trying to figure out what size blade will fit it. Any help you could give me would be greatly appreciated.
JBowen810 very cool! Should be 93” for the blade. My serial # is 65-2707
Ok. I measured the broken one at 92.5 just wasn't sure if there could be that much play in it. Thanks for the response.
JBowen810 ok, here’s my newest video on the delta and which blade I went with th-cam.com/video/3QZBd0IQLTc/w-d-xo.html
I have serial No 97-1948. Any idea if there is a model #. The upper blade guide is cracked. It is right and left adjustable. It can't be easily repaired, it appears to be aluminum cast. Great video.
Yes ,do the other
Me interesa esa máquina
How much should I expect to pay for one of these Delta Milwaukee saws?
Does anyone have the correct phone number for this catalogue? I tried all 3 listed on the site that I found for Iturra Designs.
Bob Fortner here it is, right from the catalog: 904-642-28zerotwo
Thanks much.
I have a the exact same bandsaw that I am selling, what is something like this worth ? TY
TENEWYORK I think around $250 to $450 depending on condition and any extras (light and fence) that it might have
I’d rather buy An old machine and use it than a new one!!
I know this is a year old, but I'm thinking some of your noise is the bearings in the wheels. New bearings are cheap.
The Bosch and American Vermont ... commonly sold by big box stores are not the best, Timber Wolf and others are much better ... I have a a Bosch still in the package that I will never use.
I have a 1934 14" my tires unfortunately appear to be glued on, they are on my list along with new bearings.
Please fix up the little band saw
I'm looking at a Delta Milwaukee bandsaw can anyone give me a posable price also they have a drill press, planer, tablesaw might get the whole set aany help would be welcome
A lot depends on the condition and completeness of the band saw but these old USA made machines range from $150 to $450. I paid about $350, which is on the higher end, but I'd been looking for an old one like this for a few years and it wasn't damaged or missing any critical parts...just needed some TLC. check ebay and craigslist to get an idea of current prices
Vintage Wood Workshop I havent tryed them yet there tucked away. I have no doubt there like new. He use them a lot and took great care of them. Thank you for the info. One owner
this just for wood or metal! or both!
Ricardo Rodriguez just wood
All looking good but it seems like your glade is dull....
David Dickmeyer thanks! hmm, it's fairly new...one of the Bosch blades from Lowe's. Maybe I need a lower tpi and better blade, any recommendations?
Vintage Wood Workshop
For resawing you need only 3-4 tpi. Try a TimberWolf blade from Woodcraft for a start. I would think a half inch 4TPI x 93.5” would be just perfect for that saw. (No affiliation with Woodcraft, although I worked at one of their stores some years ago)
Best of luck.
David Dickmeyer ok, thanks for the info David! I think I'll order one of those and try it out. 👍👍
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How much should I expect to pay for one of these Delta Milwaukee saws?