Behind Enemy Lines!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ต.ค. 2023
- How does one go from working closely with one of the world's top atheists to a committed Christian and creationist? Find out on this unique episode!
Hosts Trey and Lauren are joined by Josh Timonen and Dr. Randy Guliuzza to discuss Josh's story in episode 18 of Creation.Live.
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This interview was a ton of fun! Huge thanks to everyone at ICR for allowing me to come hang out with them and chat! Our family also had a blast at the museum, so much great stuff. - Josh
Thanks for being on! We'd love to have you back sometime!
@@Moist._Robot Haha, buddy, trust me: Most days I really wish that were true. Thanks for taking the time to watch the video. - Josh Timonen
@@Moist._Robot Professor Chicken? Dawkins is called that by fellow professors because he runs from debate.
@@Moist._Robot Evolution is rejected by a number of nations citing that it's not science, but a scam, and it's been proved a scam. That's all it has is scams with the Klan and nazism as it's backers.
@@Moist._Robot If this were a lie, I’m pretty sure this testimony could be disproven with just a little research. Why don’t you look up the lawsuit, do an internet search and determine if this testimony is true? Why not run the photos through an online program to determine if they have been photoshopped? It is whole lot easier to make accusations, but I believe the burden of proof is yours.
Love my son's account of his return to Christ. It was a long time to pray for his turning, but God is faithful and sovereign: He was building a testimony that will bring Glory to His Name, and a special purpose for Josh that's eternal.
Praise God, and you should be proud. His testimony cripples the pseudo-intellectual objections the atheist crowd holds to tightly. I enjoyed and was encouraged by his testimony.
This interview gave me hope for my son to return to the God of Israel, the Messiah, and the Creator he learned about from a very young age.
This was excellent and engaging. I would welcome more personal testimonies of people who have overcome the evolution delusion.
Awesome testimony, Josh. Godspeed on your journey with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Thanks guys and gals. Appreciate you!
Too many adults don't know apologetics to even answer kids questions. We're data and bible rich, but we put it all on a shelf and say I'll read that later, so we are helpless in understanding and true faith.
@Moist._Robot So knowing more about truth is proving truth wrong? Apologetics is just knowing your subject, be it the Bible or anything else. I study to know more of God in all aspects of who he is, who I am in the world he created around me, and to him. Have yet to show the Bible wrong in all my studies or in science when you take away the bias against God too often used by those determined to not see God in the world around us. In fact, apologetics has deepened my faith and trust in Jesus and God. You might want to challenge conventional teaching and try it for yourself. God bless. 🙏
@Moist._Robot Yes. But because we are man with the limited understanding of man compared to God, we learn from our exploring of God as revealed in the Bible and man's exploration of God. The problem comes in when we as man deny God without cause. So much of what we are learning about our world and universe now is proving the Bible to be true, but some are stuck in their denials and refuse to look with opened minds. Open your mind, take a chance on God and pray for him to show you the truth. Challenge conventional thinking on both sides. That is true apologetics and leads to understanding the truth of a God that not only exists but loves and is patient with us beyond all reason, if we just look for him. Worth the journey! 🙏
@@Moist._Robot What is your native language that you don't understand English? Apology means to explain. Please, feel free to show us where the Bible got it wrong. Even atheist Bible scholars are awed at the faithfulness of scribes.
@@lhart5632 Have secularist scientists ever come up with genuine theories of their own? Or any of the sciences? I asked scientists in the family and they laughed. Maybe one but no more than two. Everything studied today has come from creationists.
@@marschlosser4540 Actually they have, and again no need to insult scientists. The problem is that most scientists are taught in secular schools to reject anything connected to Christianity or the Bible because it may show the history as well as stories of mankind told there may prove to be true. Sad situation over the last 50 plus years. But more and more top level scientists are beginning to see that the "evolution" theories cannot answer the questions that science has been confounded with in recent years, and they are turning to the Bible and the God of that Bible to see that the answers there, and that there is a creator not a puddle of slime for creation to have happened. I have respect for scientists in all areas, but they need to drop their walls against Biblical truths and look at the evidence in front of them without bias. Then they are truly scientists. That's what I love about this site and several others who show the Bible is being proven to be true more and more all the time.
Love these interviews!
When Josh was talking about Dawkins and the other leading atheists, I felt sad.
These men have separated themselves from God and may remain separated from God for all eternity. 😢
Nobody who believes in chance/ random so-called "selection" has ever worked on a machine. Impossible.
Or looked at the simplest cell believing it emerged from a prebiotic pond with all 98 elements bumping around amidst 1.5 sextillion molecules in each drop and 525 genes and 42 million proteins formed inside a phospholipid bilayered cell membrane in the simplest cell. And nobody can make the 6 elements that account for 97% of what living things are made of form a single gene or protein.
@@settledown444 At least you have a hint of understanding in a tiny way, magic requires a magician. You have nothing to pull life out of a perfectly sterile barren prebiotic pond. Aka baskets can weave themselves... with no cause, purpose or reason...
@@settledown444You believe everything is random. If that were true then logic and science could not exist. We could not reason or experiment to determine the causes of things for anything could result from an action; combining hydrogen and oxygen in a two to one ratio in the presence of heat might produce water... or an acid or daisies or elephants!
@@settledown444 Then you are not familiar with the fundamental philosophical basis for atheism - the denial of causality. The fact is either everything is random or everything is ordered, conforming to laws created by a lawgiver. You cannot have bit of both
I work industrial maintenance and evolution is a fact. Its not chance. These people are lying to you about what evolution is and how it works. They have to because if you understand it, then the chances of you believing it go way up.
Fantastic stuff.
Great testimony!
Brilliant. God Bless you all
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Such an amazing testimony! I enjoyed this so much!
God bless you ICR
Fun fact: Dawkins's book "The Greatest Show on Earth: The Evidence for Evolution" is dedicated to Josh. Pretty wild😅
Josh Timonen - the surname definitely refers to Finnish family background. Greetings from Finland! God bless you all 🙂
one of the major reasons so many young men turn away from church also is there is a massive lack of masculinity in the churches and young men go looking for challenges and masculine roles models elsewhere. Where are the strong, fit, capable, dangerous, men in the church? why are we so afraid to talk about things like leadsership and competency in husbands and submission in wives? iv'e recently joined a church as a recent convert to christianity, i was playing some recreational sport with them. there was maybe one out of twenty that had the hand eye coordination that i had when i was 5. these were grown men and i felt like i was playing with children under 5. there is too much weakness and effeminacy in the church as a whole. god may be loving and soft, but he is also fearful, dangerous and righteous. and this is what men should be. the apostles may have given up their lives as a demonstration of gods love, but jews and christians have had to defend there borders endlessly with the shedding of blood in combat. today is no different, if men do not begin to sharpen each others edges again, then we are headed for hard times. how can a young man who intuitively looks for competence and strength in his role models follow meek and weak effeminate christian men? christ is coming back as a lion not a lamb, and if christians are going to make it through the years ahead they need to rediscover their masculinity (and femininity) in a big way.
the fact that this ex atheist gentlemen created the bibles and barbells group shows he also understands this.
The two most destructive forces in the world today have been the theory of evolution, and the destruction of the family via feminisation of men and masculisation of women. largly from feminism and other sexual revolution liberal groups that piggybacked off of atheism and evolution.
Amen.
I'm sorry that has been your experience at your local fellowship. I definitely don't see that at my church we have a great body of strong Christian men we have men who hunt alot of bikers blue collar guys builders, mechanics, truckers I love my brothers in Christ at our church a bunch of regular guys who are strong in their convictions, and faith, and traditional family values. Certainly not perfect, but bold for Christ.
@markphillips8927 no, I'm not saying it's a bad church or that I've had a bad experience there, just the opposite infact. Dont get me wrong the people their are lovely and ive felt very welcome. In general I think it would be helpful for churches to focus on offering more to young men to develop them into strong and capable men physically, mentally and spiritually. And I think they should stop shying away from the more controversial teachings about biblical roles of men and women, that people in our soft modern time may not like to hear, but need to hear because it is an integral part of fixing the problems we are facing in the west.
10-4. I do agree with you though that there is an identity problem in the American church as a whole. I'm a Gen xer and I never would have imagined where this country would be today with all the gender confusion and silliness. Mankind as a whole definitely has an identity problem, and it won't be fixed until people know their true identity is found in Christ. Perhaps the divorce rate in the church plays a role if fathers are not in their son's lives daily teaching them how to be strong godly men.
Amen ICR 🙂🙏✝️
An educational and entertaining conversation to inspire faith is the book Axis of Beginning.
Like this interview, but one major reason for young adults leaving Christianity: hormones. People used to get married much earlier. Now we send young adults away from their family to coed colleges and expect a good outcome. Especially for young men, how many do you think could keep sexually pure?
I'm not sure I have THE answers, but I got married early, and encouraged our kids to do the same.
What is so frustrating to me is that we have several strong Christians on school board and I’ve tried to get them to give an alternate point of view on origins to no avail. My wife n I have a small creation museum and only one class has come so far. How do you get doors to open?
All of the titles of report promoting evolution that i've seen contain these familiar words: may, might, possibly, could be, might be, etc. They call it scientific finding, it's a lie.
So what does Dawkins think/ say of this man now?
I know God is real. as well as Christ. Israel is that evidence.
Sir ,i am Harshit, - to deal with the problem of Dual nature of light , I discover ' Morse-code model of Light ' ,this model proof non monochromatic nature of light. and this model is also explain Radiation effect . sir please pay attention to my model, it can help in physics.
Paul wrote about 7 books in the NT, of 27 books, you need a dictionary and look up what, most, means.
So the point is you want to go to heaven where you will worship “ god “ for eternity ! Wow, sounds dreadful….after a million years, a billion……trillions with nothing to do but that ! You all have no concept of what you’re talking about !
Strobel and Wallace? Two jokes of the apologetic community, is who you listen too? Dude you need some critical thinking classes.
Did you say anything? except Waaaaah....😢
@@dwightwhitman2781 those dim bulbs make my brain sad
@captivedesk3168 Well you're entitled to your take for sure. But I find they have great understanding. Especially since they both came from a non theistic world view and have radically changed.
@@dwightwhitman2781 they are grifters
@@captivedesk3168 You have no standing or evidence for that claim.
Have you really listened to their stories? Hao they came to understand the truth of things?
Why don't you have any real scientists working for you?
We do! You can learn about our science staff and their credentials at icr.org.
@@icrscience No, you don't. Your tenets require them to abide by biblical inerrancy, which means that they are not allowed to do real science, which is a process of free and open inquiry into the universe. Since your tenets do not allow them to do science, they are no longer scientists, no matter what degrees they may have. They may have done science in order to get the degree, but they are no longer doing any.
@@Moist._Robot like secular scientists must agree with naturalism and cannot diverge from it? You guys are so hypocritical. Your side has bias as well.
@@thesimpleskeptic5240 Are there any theories being studied today that came out of atheism? No, they all go to creationist scientists.
@@marschlosser4540 Make that make sense.
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