What REALLY Swallowed Jonah?
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- The book of Jonah contains the historical account of the prophet Jonah. In verse 17 of chapter 1, the text states that the Lord prepared a great fish to swallow Jonah... That can't be right, can it? Did Jonah really spend 3 days and 3 nights inside an aquatic creature?
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Imagine getting swallowed by Leviathan.
I don't want to and you can't make me.
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I’d rather not. Let’s think of a field of daisies instead la, la, laaa ❤
I can’t. Never seen one before 😋
@@zaharishtonov God hadn't seen one before. ...before he imagined it... before he used his imagination; which sheds a little light on what 'made in God's image' means.
And, imag-e ... imag-ination.
I love that ICR charges directly into the issues that many others tip-toe around: Deep time, Jonah, Noah, etc. Don't be shy: Be ready to give a defense. Don't give secular evolutionists an inch: Stand firm on the word of God.
As a former materialistic evolutionist and an atheist, I concur. Be tooled up and with wisdom and tact, stand firm.
ICR does nothing of the sort. It melds science (so called) with God's word. It is a consistent error of ICR and AIG. Just a year ago a whale swallowed a man. Look it up. Wasn't three days....only a day but do you really need more?
Amen
AMEN.
GREAT video! I wanted to point out for consideration too that there were times in the Bible where people were put into "impossible survival" situations, but did in fact survive. One Example: Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego in the furnace with the fire seven times hotter than normal. They miraculously survived without even smelling like smoke - Daniel 3:16-28. It is awesome to get intellectual evidence for Biblical stories - but no matter if Jonah died or not, survival in the stomach of an animal and/or being brought back to life are both miracles. :) I believe it is important for all of us who believe in Jesus and the Bible, to be cautious to understand that we may not always have answers that satisfy our logic or intellectual minds. There are often times with situations in our lives that God allows, that just do not make any sense and may not be understood in our lifetime on this earth. Never-the-less, God's Word (the Bible) it worthy to be trusted for so many reasons. It is awesome to see science research and study support the Bible, but always keep in mind that the Bible says in Hebrews 11:16, "And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to Him must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who earnestly seek Him". Thanks ICR for all you do! Press on!
Amen!
The Bible says God prepared a fish for Jonah this means he created a fish that specifically was designed to accomplish what it did.
The Hebrew word translates into dragon.
So you’re saying when God said He from all of His creation on day 6, that he lied?
@@krakoosh1 Didn't Jesus by using the power of God create fish to feed the multitude? So once again God created fish and life.
@@muppetonmeds the fish weren’t alive and God could have used fish already in the sea and used his power to kill and cook them and put in the basket
Prepared is past tense, he could have prepared it during creation weak no problems. But later on in Jonah where God CAUSED a vine to grow above Jonah in one day speaks to a miracle type creation. There is no problem for God working within his creation. When he says he rested, it means that creation was accomplished and isn't an ongoing process i.e. evolution. This isn't to say the God cannot step into his creation and accomplish his purpose any time he well pleases. He's not a tame lion after all! Dont fall into the trap of Job's friends and try to put God in a box and tell HIM how he should behave according to you.
Chinese Dragons look like Dog-headed sea serpents...
Dr. Thomas has really been going at it on the ICR channel lately. Thanks for your hard work Dr. Thomas!
I have often wondered why the people of Nineveh took Jonah so seriously when he said their nation was about to be destroyed.
Of course, in the Bible, we often get the shortened versions. But some have suggested that when Jonah exited the fish, or whale, or whatever it was, his skin was mottled and patchy from the digestive juices of the animal. This could help get peoples attention.
There is at least one case of a man swallowed by a sperm whale, who managed to survive, but looked pretty strange for the rest of his life.
Also, since Nineva worshiped a sea creature
god, someone seen and reported to emerge from a sea creature would be enough to get everybody’s attention.
The Solar Eclipse crosses through multiple towns named Neveah. In the JerUSAlem.
I’m really a fan of Dr Brian Thomas. The tone of his voice and the way he articulates makes him a very good speaker and lecturer. Once again I really enjoyed the broadcast 🇦🇺🦘Thank you from Melbourne, Australia.
Thank you for this great program. 🙏 God created all living creatures on this earth.
Thank you, Dr Thomas! Many think Jonah went to deliver a message of repentance, but this is not so as you rightly say. I summarise it as "Yet 40 days and you get yours!". This explains why the king asked "Who can tell if God will turn and relent, and turn away from His fierce anger, so that we may not perish?" It also explains why Jonah was hopping mad in Chapter 4. He was called to preach that judgement is coming but knew that if the Ninevites DID repent then God would not carry it through, and Jonah would be shown to be a false prophet. That's why he fled in the first place. "Didn’t I say before I left home that you would do this, LORD? That is why I ran away to Tarshish! I knew that you are a merciful and compassionate God, slow to get angry and filled with unfailing love. You are eager to turn back from destroying people. Just kill me now, LORD! I’d rather be dead than alive if what I predicted will not happen" (NLT).
I'm one of those who believe Jonah died, too.
Jonah's message to the Ninevites was 5 words, if I remember right. And yes, that's very much what it meant, but with a twist. The word for "overturned" was sometimes used the way we say "turn over a new leaf." So, whether Ninevah repented or perished, Jonah's message would remain true.
The ketas looks like the gods depicted in the movie El Dorado. Fascinating to know it is documented in culture before and after in extra biblical sources
The Ninevites worshipped a "God" that was a large fish, so God showed his connection by giving Jonah a form of transportation that matched his destination. Too cool!
The ocean is a large place. I think it very possible a dog headed sea serpent could be hidden there somewhere.
I had another thought on this. I'm not sure if it really matters whether it was a whale or a sea serpent. They're both really big creatures. To me, the bottom line is that a very large creature swallowed Jonah and then vomited him up on the beach. I'm not sure of the reference atm, but there is a reference to this in the Psalms.
Lovely. Thank you!
when i was at university in the 1990's studying ocean science, my lecturer (who believed in a 4 billion year old earth and evolution) showed us an old black and white pic of an African fisherman from the Indian ocean coast of Africa. He had fallen off his fishing boat into the ocean. He was swallowed by a whale shark (the biggest living shark, it feeds on plankton) He had remained in-side the whale shark for several hours. When he was puked up by the fish he survived, but his skin was bleached white, this was very apparent in the pic!
Yes makes sense as an aquatic biologist. To much stomach acid and he raised Lazarus on the 4th day when he stanketh
@johndedden9759 Amen. Jonah made Lazarus smell good on the 4th day. I love the details that prove the Bibles cohesion with hundreds of years in between. JESUS said like Jonah the SON of man shall be three days and nights in the heart of the earth. If you read carefully Jonah is sleeping below deck, obviously it's still dark of night. He prays 1st in the whale's belly during the night but next prayer is in the belly of hell. So he was not dead yet, but it could be just before the breaking of the dawn hence dead for 3.5 days like the two witnesses will be dead. The three days only for JESUS must be important, being "the sure mercies of David"; Isa. 55:3, Ps.16:10, Acts 13:34. HE, confirming the Everlasting Covenant with the many at the breaking of the dawn Resurrection Sunday after three day and nights.
Jonah being the only sign the Jews will get, speaks 2000 years of JESUS after 3 days and nights grace and mercy was given to Gentile Nations like Nineveh.
Very interesting! Thank You I.C.R. !
I can’t thank you enough for doing these broadcasts ! I still remember my mother telling me in Episcopal Sunday school that the story of the whale was made up to teach a lesson and a man couldn’t fit inside a whale. 🤦♀️ in addition, she told my young teen self that the Bible was stories that men made up and wrote down to explain God to us. 🤦♀️🤦♀️ the sad part is she spent her entire life going to church and being involved in Church ministries.😢
Many years later when I finally gave my life over to Jesus at age 40, I learned AND acknowledged that GOD is bigger and smarter than all of us and knows everything. And the Bible was GOD’S word written down by men. Not their words. However I do get how translations caused by “modern day” politics and definitions and changes in language have affected the true meaning in HIS words.
I’m so disappointed that my mother didn’t instead teach me a true faith in Jesus to give over all my woes and everything else in life. God is sovereign however nac he knew my oath to him, and I wouldn’t have met my husband when I did if I had led a different albeit somewhat easier path to HIS love and grace and forgiveness.
i can tell Dr Thomas is strugeling keep going brother and thank you
Very informative episode.
Fascinating😮
"Death before sin." For gazillions of years. Exactly. A fellow-Catholic swipes that aside by saying, Yeah but Paul was only talking about human death. He's happy that God was happy with animal suffering.
How is God happy with animal suffering now if not then?
Great info guys! 👍🏻
Great show but I would argue that plesiosaurs most likely exist today in Loch Ness 😉
Absolutely. Lakes all over the world have similar species.
Fantastic talk!
It looks like a Chinese dragon living in the water. The Ketos/ Cetos
I've understood that Jonah indeed was dead for those three days. God raised him from death.
It's fascinating that Jonah became a prediction of Jesus' resurrection. It is one piece more in God's huge design.
Yes Jonah was in the place of the dead in old testament times, Sheol also called the pit...
Jonah 2:2 YLT98
[2] And he saith: I called, because of my distress, to Jehovah, And He doth answer me, *From the belly of sheol I have cried,* Thou hast heard my voice.
[6] To the cuttings of mountains I have come down, The earth, her bars [are] behind me to the age. And *Thou bringest up from the pit my life,* O Jehovah my God.
Noah's death and resurrection.
Sinking in the depths of the ocean, the ship growing smaller as it floats off. The darkness of the storm overtaking his vision as his descends under water.
Thrown by the current, he knew his life was over, this was the end, he failed to follow God's mission and now he will pay with his life, drowned to death in the ocean.
A massive dark figure approaches as he loses consciousness.
His last sight, a monstrous frame like a Leviathan from the stories he heard as a boy.
A long neck the size of the cedars of Lebanon curls about, and he sees an open maw of teeth and blackness encase him.
Then... nothing...
A corpse, eyes glossed over, soaked in vomit, bile and sea water, washed up on the shore. Had anyone seen it they would have looked on in horror.
It begins to move, a spam and then a sharp inhalation of breath, and confusion.
How long was he unconscious? How did he end up on this beach? What on earth is that thing lying dead on the shore next to him?
The thoughts racing through his mind, but he knew, the Lord speaks to him and he knows the answers now.
He will have to write this down in the future and tell others when he gets home.
But for now, Jonah tries to raise his weak and shaking body from the sand.
He has a mission, and he must fulfill it. The Lord wouldn't have brought him back from death otherwise.
He begins to stumble and then walk, he must find the nearest town and find out where he is.
@AlexanderDuncann You my friend, need write a book and then a movie 🍿
Great videos!
The narrative of Jonah doesn't say he "lived" inside a fish for three days, as the young lady states in the beginning of the program. It just says he was IN the belly of the fish for three days. Whether he was alive or dead during those three days is a matter of controversy. Some people claim it's a matter of the way the narrative is presented, because it says, "Jonah was in the belly of the fish for three days and three nights," and then goes onto talk about his experience and prayer. But that can also be interpreted as a common writer's method, much like newspaper headlines do today, where it gives the headline, "Jonah in fishes belly three days and nights!" and then goes in back of the story to show what happened prior to the headline. It's my understanding that there are two fish currently living that could have easily swallowed Jonah. I'd have to look up the names of them. Jesus verified the authenticity of the account because apparently there were doubters in in His day and that's the only verification needed to support the actual truth of the account. Also, Jonah was verified as a real person in the historical book of 2 Kings 14:25 where he is mentioned, so people who think Jonah was just a fictional character are confronted with evidence of his reality and I believe God did that on purpose.
Jonah died ..we a told..he cried to the LORD from Sheol 【Jonah 2:2】....the place of dead spirits...that settles the argument ..the living can never go to Sheol/Hades..
@@anarchorepublican5954 I never said he was alive. Pick an argument with someone who disagees with you or better yet, create your own comment and leave other people alone. I know Jonah was dead. All I said was that there was a controversy about it.
The Bible says God prepared a fish for Jonah this means he created a fish that specifically was designed to accomplish what it did.
@@surrenderdaily333 ....
Nope.. you didn't say Jonah, was alive in the Whale (and it was a whale) ..and I never said you did...so ...Nope (again).. I didn't pick an argument...Had I, trust me, you would know, if I did.
..Rather in fact, I was backing you up..with facts ...there should be no controversy..."Sheol" is the place of the dead...and from this verse we know, the dead not only go there..but, are also when there, the dead have some form of conscious...that's why it "controversial"- it clearly implies life after death in the Old Testament...and that is also why Jesus used Jonah as a proof text..and "a Sign"...
Lazarus is an example of what God can do. I love it when folks say "that settles it" as if they are absolutely correct. A feeble attempt to play God. You were right to dismiss the challenge.
Interesting! Never really thought of it being a large aquatic dinosaur. Makes one wonder 🤔
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Very good. Thank you!
I love your podcast, thanks so much for offering your time. I now have a name that I can call my grown-up wonderful sons. “DOG-FACED SEA SERPENT” ha ha ha! ❤
Totally agree with you about Jonah being dead... Jonah 2:2 confirms it.
Great programme and discussion... I think it was a whale shark that swallowed Jonah for 3 reasons:
1: Whale sharks are plenty big enough to swallow a human and does not have the filter system in their mouth like whales.
2: A Whale shark is a fish...
3: A Whale Shark regurgitates all the undigested food after 3 days..
Good point about the belly of sheol but that could be easily a figure of speech. The rest of the chapter seems to me more likely he was alive and suffering.
The book of Jonah says he was at the bottom of the mountains the depth of the med. sea is more than 5 miles the avg. depth is 4900 ft. And he was talking to God while in the belly of the fish, the average whale must surface about once an hour for air and a fish does not have to surface it has gills
Also the fact that when someone dies there memory is gone and they neither praise or curse God. There is no consciousness in death until the return of Christ and the resurrection
Jonah was spat upon the shore where many Ninevites saw him. The Ninevites (who were Assyrians) worshipped Dagon, the fish god, so when the Ninevites saw a fish spit out Johan, they thought he was a god. That is why they listened to him and believed. Yahweh already knew that and that was Yahweh's plan all along. Yahweh is all-seeing and all-knowing, and He has a since of humor. Jonah (yonah) is the Hebrew word for a dove.
Now this makes sense!
One of the most helpful statements in this podcast was pointing to the fact that Scripture does not say that Jonah was necessarily alive (though implied when he prayed to God) while in the ketos (I am assuming that his praying to God would have been with the fact that to be absent from the body is to be present with God). In fact for him to be dead and then restored to life after being spit out makes Jesus' use of Jonah even more tightly woven with His own death, burial, and resurrection. All of this information will be added to the tools I use teaching Sunday school.
Thank you all for your faithfulness in ministering with the uncompromised Word of God.
In death there is no praising God. The dead know nothing. And you miss quoted Paul in that verse. He didn't say to be absent from the body "is" to be present with God. The Bible makes it very clear that when someone dies they are waiting in the grave the bible calls it sleep until the resurrection. Either the resurrection of life or the resurrection of the wicked when hell fire rains down from God out of heaven on earth to destroy sin
I had an uncle once who denied the Lord based exactly on what you talked about! He couldn't wrap his mind around a "whale" swallowing Jonah so he rejected the whole kit kaboodle. :(
So you believe in the Loch Ness monster too! Really loved this interview. Please have Dr. Thomas back.
In modern Hebrew, leviathan just means "whale" but in ancient Hebrew, it could refer to any large sea creature.
I love this channel🎉❤
Interesting! thanks
I think mis-translations in general have caused more issues than we are aware of. I don't think it was done maliciously (in most translations), but with the intent to provide a better understanding of ancient words to a modern audience. We have so much more evidence about things than we used to as well, whereas I'm sure these earlier translators weren't as aware of extinct species and assumed it was a known creature.
Like how the original kjv translators put "Easter", a pagan goddess, for "Passover", in Acts.
Very interesting!
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Fascinating discussion. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I had always thought it was probably a Megalodon.
I lean against the idea that Jonah died and was resurrected for two reasons. One is that the book of Jonah says that God prepared a 'fish'. That would imply that it could be either a special creation or an alteration of something living at the time.
Secondly, it is hard for me to imagine Jonah vividly describing the conditions he was living in and his prayers if he was dead.
Finally, Jesus statement that he would be in the ground just like Jonah was in the belly of the whale does not necessarily imply that Jonah was dead.
But of course, we will have to wait until Heaven to see which one of us is correct. God bless!
If I understand correctly, he didn't die instantly. So, he could have been alive long enough to experience the inside and still die.
@@eugenetswong Certainly possible. But since God 'prepared' the fish, it is equally possible that He created a way to survive in it.
Well, I believe in miracles, so if I'm correct, then it's *DEFINITELY* possible.
Q: did God let him die and experience the inside features of the belly?
My answer: yes!
He died just like the rich man and Lazaras, and came back to tell about it.
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Fantastic discovery
Praise God in the Highest! Jesus Christ is Lord!!
Great stuff. Please include graphics and links.
Such a great talk for this time of year, around Yom Kippur!
Is K-E-T-A-S a good transliteration of that word?
Dog headed sea serpent, who knew?
So fascinating!
Yup, sarcophagi. (Just looked it up).
My favorite sea creature: "The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms", for those old enough to remember 1950's monster movies 😊
20,000 fathom is 120,000 feet. The oceans are not that deep. In linear distance, 20,000 fathoms is not very far, about the distance between Times Square and Scarsdale.
So very grateful for the ongoing ministry at ICR! Please know that your efforts are effectively equipping and encouraging fellow believers to share the truth of God's Word!
13:06 Lyme Regis ... a _plesiosaur_ was found there.
Where any _land_ creatures found _above_ it, not meaning up-inland-off-coast, like 45 ° to horizontal, but really vertical, like 45° - 90° against horizontal?
Thinking of how the plesiosaurus used it's four flippers - I think about how a dragonfly uses its four wings. Dragonflies are the most skillful fliers of all creatures. I can imagine the plesiosaurus being a most adroit creature in the water.
Humming bird?
@@JesusistheonetrueGod - Hummingbird is good. Dragonfly is better. Hummingbird doesn't have to hit fast-moving tiny targets.
@@rubiks6 ah, I thought so.
A whale shark has a huge mouth (6x8 feet), they follow fishing boats and inhale fish etc. after digesting the meal, they vomit the remnants of their stomach near the shore. They can and have been known to swallow people. God can use his creation for his own purposes. Timing is key to see miracles. Jonah was vomited up on the shore.
My interpretation of Jonah is that he literally died...he didn't survive. He went to Sheol as stated in the text. On the third day he was brought back to life and washed upon the shore. Now, imagine a three-day digested man walking into the city proclaiming judgement. THAT would be a sign, and that would be proof to heed. Otherwise, he would just another man proclaiming judgement. Something about his testimony radically changed the people of Nineveh.
Remember, it was MAN who designated a Whale as a mammal. Go said, Jonah was swallowed by A BIG FISH.
Learned a lot from this video. Thanks for all the work you do ICR!
First, Im not arguing with what this guy in the video is saying. i love the book of Jonah. In the book of Jonah i dont see the evidence he died in the belly of the big fish i see evidence he was alive and prayed in the belly and thanked God for the fish rescuing him from the deep. I see both sides, whether he was dead or alive, as an awesome miracle that only God could do. I see the symbolism for Jesus as Jonah was three days in the dark and then brought back up on the third day. Awesome piece of scripture. i encourage everyone to take 5 minutes and read the whole book
I looked up Cetus and found quite a few references to an alternate name of Kraken
Excellent! You CAN believe the whole Bible is true!
It is worth noting that Jonah was once called by my college professor “the Homer Simpson of biblical prophets.”
Not only the way the bible said it happened but the way our rabbi said it happened Matthew 22:40. Jonah was three days and three nights in the stomach of a big fish.
Oops, she's just said that. Sorry.
Oops again, he's just said correctly chapter 12, not 20.
In the book of Jonah it’s says big fish in the New Testament it say whale. King James Version. It kinda shows how they we’re still trying to figure what exact creature it was. Love this video. And yes we should use the Bible to help us understand it. God bless you have a great day.
Jesus was talking about his preaching of repentance to a wicked city and compared it to Jonah. Same sign given to Ninevah, not death, burial and resurrection.
Note that Jonah got the second part of the message in chapter 3. 40 days and destruction comes...
Did you know that about 40 years later in Jesus' timeframe that in 70 AD another wicked city was destroyed....(JERUSALEM)
Thousands upon thousands of men have lived inside of numerous "great fish" for days weeks and even months and absolutely no one bats an eye or scoffs at people who have returned from them safely. These creations are capable of running on the surface or going down deep under the water. They are called submarines. If man can create a submarine just imagine what God can do.
What about an ichthyosaur? I visited the Ichthyosaur State Park in central Nevada where 3 (if memory serves me correctly) of these fossil creatures are found?
The honest, open study of the facts does support the Bible. Keep up the good work.
“Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.." -John 17:17 (KJV)
***Jesus was referring to duration. Jonah’s deliverance came after three days and nights had passed, providing a foreshadowing of Jesus’ resurrection:
Matthew 12:40 (NLT)
"For as Jonah was in the belly of the great fish for three days and three nights, so will the Son of Man be in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights."
Jonah’s Prayer (NLT)
Then Jonah prayed to the Lord his God from inside the fish.
He said,
“I cried out to the Lord in my great trouble,
and he answered me.
I called to you from the land of the dead,[b]
and Lord, you heard me!
You threw me into the ocean depths,
and I sank down to the heart of the sea.
The mighty waters engulfed me;
I was buried beneath your wild and stormy waves.
Then I said, ‘O Lord, you have driven me from your presence.
Yet I will look once more toward your holy Temple.’
“I sank beneath the waves,
and the waters closed over me.
Seaweed wrapped itself around my head.
I sank down to the very roots of the mountains.
I was imprisoned in the earth,
whose gates lock shut forever.
But you, O Lord my God,
snatched me from the jaws of death!
As my life was slipping away,
I remembered the Lord.
And my earnest prayer went out to you
in your holy Temple.
Those who worship false gods
turn their backs on all God’s mercies.
But I will offer sacrifices to you with songs of praise,
and I will fulfill all my vows.
For my salvation comes from the Lord alone.”
Then the Lord ordered the fish to spit Jonah out onto the beach.
I looked up Mary Anning and she had an interesting life and was a Christian. Someone should write a book for kids that is a combo biography about her and science book about the fossils/animals from a Christian perspective since she was a believer. A British movie was made that showed a relationship between her and a woman that was made up but was presented as true. Her true story and faith should get out there.
13:00 it was an ichthyosaur, not a plesiosaur
Would sea turtles be an animal with both front and back flippers similar to a plesiosaur maybe?
I never doubted the story of Jonah and know all things are possible with the LORD/Lord. Much more to the story than we think, thank you!
Why is it so important, what kind of fish or a whale swalled Jonah? How this affect once salvation?
Maranatha.
Your complaint is addressed near the end.
@ctreid87 Thank you. :)
There are fish around today (several varieties of Sunfish) that could easily swallow a human. If I found myself inside of a fish's stomach, I would try to get on my hands and knees and then try to get my head into any air pocket there so I could breathe. By deliberate and concentrated clawing, I could make a hole in the stomach and just beyond that is the air bladder. If jonah ever cleaned a fish, he would know about the air bladder. Jonah may have stuck his head into the air bladder as an accident in the course of his desperate struggles or as the result of deliberate conscious action. Surviving there for three days until the mortally wounded fish puked him up near shore completes the very plausible scenario.
Well that was interesting. It sounds plausible. But I hope I don't have bad dreams tonight where I'm in a giant fish stomach-cave, trying to pick my way out with one fingernail, or at least enough to reach some questionable, fishy air bladder. I've opened stinky cans of bad tuna in my time, but that'd be kind of ridiculous.
None of those fish have a digestive tract large enough to swallow a human. Their isn't free amounts of oxygen in a fishes stomach, and if you got into an swim bladder, the fish would die and sink. No sea animal has a digestive tract large enough to fit a human inside, nor a stomach able to sustain life. The inner organs of marine life are thin so they don't implode from the pressure of the ocean. Whales can only fit a grapefruit down their tract and they exhale when diving so they don't build up nitrogen. It is impossible for this story to be true given reality. Only thing you can do is say God magicked a monster out of nothing that had a room full of oxygen in its body so Jonah could survive. That has the same amount of evidence as literally anything else you could come up with: nothing.
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With God all things are possible.
@@HarpsDad22 In reality, those things are not.
@@hylaherping9180 God can use anything to accomplish his will. He works in the supernatural.
Thank you for this fascinating insight into the story, which I’ve always believed and taken at face value. Personally, I do not believe that Jonah actually died whilst in the body of the creature, but whether he did, or did not, is somewhat academic due to the fact that he was to all intents and purposes in a place that was totally dark, damp and dismal (not to mention the smell). And if I were in a place like that, I would certainly be crying out to the Lord for help just as Jonah did.
A short lesson in Greek pronunciation. Ketos is pronounced with a long ‘e’. Thus, say Key-tos (κήτος). Sarcophagus (σαρκοφάγος) literally breaks down into: sarka, which means flesh and fagos, which means ‘to eat’. Thus a sarcophagus is literally a ‘flesh eater’. Yes, I am a native Greek, a believer and one who holds to a young earth belief. ICR has provided me with very valuable tools. Thank you.
This was AWESOME 😊 Never knew the link when Jesus mentioned the event😮
15:53 a sarcophagus is a coffin ⚰️
I'm surprised people almost never mention mosasaurs as a possible candidate for Leviathan.
In this case, if it was a marine reptile that swallowed Jonah, Shastasaurus/Shonisaurus could've fit the bill, imo
Could have also been a Megalodon as well. Now that was a monster. So many interesting possibilities. 😃
Those don't look serpent enough
Strong's Number - G2785
Greek: κῆτος
Transliteration: kētos
Pronunciation: kay'-tos
Definition: Probably from the base of G5490; a huge fish (as gaping for prey): - whale.
KJV Usage: whale (1x).
Occurs: 1
In verses: 1
Nothing here about a dog headed serpent
Strong's Number - H1709
Hebrew: דּאג דּגo
Transliteration: dâg dâ'g
Pronunciation: {dawg} dawg
Definition: From H1711; a fish (as prolific); or perhaps rather from H1672 (as timid); but still better from H1672 (in the sense of {squirming} that {is} moving by the vibratory action of the tail); a fish (often used collectively): - fish.
KJV Usage: fish (20x).
Occurs: 20
In verses: 18
Another thing to remember is that many such artworks were made from oral description & not by eyewitnesses, which is why it looks fake.
Don't turtles have front and back flippers?
Jonah 2:1-2
Then Jonah prayed to the Lord his God from the belly of the fish, saying, “I called out to the Lord, out of my distress, and he answered me; out of the belly of Sheol I cried, and you heard my voice.
Sheol is the Hebrew version of Hades...
I honestly do not believe Jonah died in the belly of the sea critter. I believe God kept him alive as punishment as the creature made its way to the coast to regurgitate Jonah to deliver God's message. Keeping a man alive in a place that man should absolutely not be able to survive in not beyond the power of The Almighty. Can you imagine a worse feeling than being digested, crushed, and suffocating for days knowing that you deserved what you have gotten for defying the Lord?
Yes, he was a real man of God I would have lost it being surrounded by nothing but fish all day lol.
It says God "prepared" a great water animal. Could have been anything, but the point is God modified it in some manner to become larger than normal so it wasn't the usual run of the mill version of whatever it was. This one was specifically altered to accomplish the mission of swallowing Jonah, transporting him and depositing him back on his way to Nineveh 3 days later. Whether he died in the process and God ressurected him or he sat in the belly of that creature bemoaning his fate for disobeying God doesn't matter.
The problem is people claiming to be Christians but yet calling Jesus a liar constantly when what the bible say clashes with the secular view, be it over the literal 7 day creation, the Flood or Jonah and the sea creature/monster. When they discount what Jesus says in scripture either as the pre-incarate Word of God working through the prophets in the old testament or as the man Jesus when he personally came to die and save us from our sins they are calling Jesus/God a liar and God can not lie.
The fun thing to think about about the history of Jonah and his "whale" whatever that may have been is when God said he prepared it, he doesn't say when he did so😉. With his foreknowledge he could have made it on the fifth day of creation or moments before it swallowed Jonah, LOL. Either way doesn't matter ,but I personally like the idea of him prepping it on the fifth day of creation.😁
True if we could prepare a tin can for men to breathe and live while going to the moon then how hard would it be for God to prepare a fish to do the same under the ocean.
If one starts at the viewpoint that the Bible is true and God's knowledge is beyond what we can even imagine, then we can rest in the idea that "the science" will eventually catch up with the things God set forth in His word as fact. Then we can enjoy those "mysterious" passages we don't understand.
Imagine a country in which our schools were free to teach creation and evolution and let people choose for themselves what to believe. Is that too much to ask?
@@sciencerules8525 Thank you, Mr. Self-righteous Denier of Free Thought.
If you are a secular professor whose money and reputation both depend on evolution then, yes, it IS, because in short order you'd have no job.
Considering that the search for extinct creatures is in fossil form from the sea and/or ancient seabeds and the percentage of those is approximately less than 5%, there could be any such creature that once lived, is a rarity at this time OR quite possibly has not been found yet. We still do not have a complete understanding of our oceans.
Whete are your visuals?
1:05 It perhaps doesn't say Jonah lived.
While praying, he could have been already dead.
Or the prayer could have been well remembered last words before dying.
define irony. After Jonah was swallowed by an apparent big fish, he himself is totally unaware of what happened as evidence by his prayer. In fact, using that same passage, you can get a totally different event of what happened by using other usages of language from the same text. I know I have.
He prayed in the belly of the fish
Jesus said Jonah was in the belly of the whale for 3 days, as He would be in the earth for 3 days. (Mattew 12:40). In the OT Jonah was in the fish's belly for 3 days. (Jonah 1:17) Jesus compares Jonah and Himself as resurrected. Sea bass are known to be able to swallow another fish one third it's size. An 18 foot bass is possible, but with God, nothing is impossible.
*In the Book of Daniel* the 3 youths survived inside a FURNACE so what's there to explain about Jonah trapped - alive - in the belly of a fish??
Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego... Daniel is not mentioned in that passage. Perhaps he was out of town on business?
@surlyogre1476 Oh yeah you're right, the miracle was reported in the Book of Daniel but the prophet was not involved. Post edited. Thanks!
All the Bible knowledge made fun!❤
100% agree. Thank you so much for sharing. I heard Jonah preached at a church not long ago and pointed out to the speaker exactly this - Jonah appears to have died and was raised from the dead - just based on the Jonah passage alone if you read it carefully, and Jesus affirms this as the “sign of Jonah” in the New Testament. The speaker brushed it off…glad to see I’m not the only one with this understanding though.
"Luck Dragon" from Never Ending Story..
For a long time now, I have wondered if Jonah was really swallowed by an icthyosaur or similar marine "dinosaur".
Time to make it up as you go along!!!!!!
Time you quit loitering and got a life, come back when you've got some evidence to share. J
@@UserRandJ Evidence that creationists then deny as evidence! LOL Always asking for more or something else!!
You should have read chapter 2. Clearly Jonah was conscious in the belly of the creature up to the point GOD answered his prayer of repentance and spoke to the monster which spit him out. I do like the insight of the "ketos" tho. BTW Y@shua didn't preach in Greek but likely would have used the word for the serpent in Greek.
Jona belongs to the small prophets, that makes it easier to swallow him
Thanks for giving me a smile with that bad joke! ❤ May YHWH bless you!
@@synthtonic4954 You too Syn