I feel like a fool for buying into the "we all came from a rock" narrative I'm 47 and I still struggle with doubt, but I have always known there is a God Who went through all the trouble of creating us
One might expect a deity, if there were such a thing, would be known by everyone or is fudging the title a bit. The fraud of religious people is revealed by the failure rate of prayers in a children's hospital & the lack of mountains moving by verbal commands.
It is always a thrill to me to see a genuine, rigorous scientific treatment of the complexity in the biochemistry of the cell, giving God the glory for it all!
I love ICR. My two adult children are now also enthusiastically supporting Creation ministries, at least partly because they have seen the difference in their own lives between ignoring God and following Christ. Now they are thrilled to be showing their own children the first steps in Christian faith and hope. The one with my two older grandchildren visited the Ark Encounter with her husband and their two children in July and absolutely loved it. My other child and his wonderful wife have an infant and they regularly watch excellent videos as they walk with God, educating themselves and telling others and their church about several ministries, including ICR.
You skipped a step on chirality. You assumed ribose yet even Benner's team could only make some racemic sugars that were thoroughly contaminated with junk. Next you have to make long chains of the carbohydrates hooked together in the correct spots. There are a trillion different possible combinations they can hookup but only the correct way will work.
@1414141x there are only two explanations for life, 1) either everything came from nothing , 2) or there was always something, if nothing comes from nothing then there's only one other solution, god. It's up to you where you put your faith,
@@1414141x - *_Somebody_* did it and that _somebody_ possesses the attributes necessary to create life. Those attributes equate to God. Life doesn't _just_ happen. Natural processes cannot produce life. Try to follow the argument.
Evolutionists always think that the basic building blocks of life are RNA, not DNA, maybe because they say they found a lot of RNA in space? I understand about cell machines, I'm a medical person....so how should I explain it to them?
2 things man cant create life or a grain of sand Everyone is a scientist they all trip over and jump over things they cant make You can skip school and know this
What you don't hear is how god put all the chemicals together to make a human being or an animal or a plant. Or how he made everything else. Can you explain this too me please ?
The Bible doesn't give details on that other that he spoke everything into existence except mankind as he made Adam from the dust of the earth with His hands and breathed into Adam's nostrils and He made Eve from one of Adam's ribs.
"Can you explain this too me please?" Ask God ... Science is working to find out how God created everything but science probably won't ever be able to know everything.
@@philhart4849 the wait is over. God's existence is verified by both observable science and documented history. The Law of Biogenesis states that life only comes from preexisting life. That means the origin of life has to be an eternal living source. What do we know from documented history that fits that qualification? Only God.
@@refuse2bdcvd324 "God's existence is verified by both observable science and documented history." And that observable science and documented history is what exactly?
@@PhilHart-j9y the Law of Biogenesis, which states that life only comes from preexisting life, indicating that the origin of life has to be an eternal living source. What do we see in documented history that fits that requirement-- only God.
Every thing we have come to understand has been as a result of the natural forces that we can explain in detail. Not once have we found a divine cause for anything, ever. These facts would seem to make material the logical default for the things we have yet to figure out until some evidence is found for a demonstrable act of divine creation. Got any?
But the genealogy is backed up by archeology proving the historicity of the Bible. And the fossil record and the rock layers. How much evidence do you want? Even meeting Jesus face to face wasn't good enough for most people. Especially the leaders of the day. There are two classes of scripture you need to reject. 1 those inserted by men that are not in the original text. Two examples are the words "alone" which was added by martin Luther to saved by grace. And the story of the adulteress. 2scripture twisted to justify breaking the commandments and or teach pagan doctrine as biblical doctrine
Scientific discovery and knowledge has pretty much detroyed all the fear we had of lightning, thunder, storms, volcanoes, tsunamis, plagues etc etc. Prior all these were used by the religious to say these were punishments from god. Now we know they are not. We have one more step to go......
@@1414141x It seems that the more ignorant a person is, the more he is inclined towards atheism. As I said, Bible has predicted the future of mankind and the universe correctly. In his posthumously-published Observations upon the Prophecies of Daniel, and the Apocalypse of St. John, Isaac Newton expressed his belief that Bible prophecy would not be understood "until the time of the end", and that even then "none of the wicked shall understand". There is only one Trinitarian God. He is manifested in Bible. Everything that science has found and is finding out, testifies for the scientific facts revealed in Bible. Bible does not use scientific language because that is made by humans for our own inept scientific studies. Instead, Bible tells how God worked and what is waiting us in the future. We can take the Law of Entropy. Bible tells us that nothing is evolving but devolving. This means no Darwinian Universal Common Ancestor was possible. The principal direction of all natural processes is decay, the process towards the universal heat death of the universe. That's what entropy means. So there are no "miracles", just the way how God created our universe and how He will roll it up: Hebrews 1:10-12 10 He also says,“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands. 11 They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment. 12 You will roll them up like a robe; like a garment they will be changed. But you remain the same, and your years will never end.” Thermodynamics is working all the time just as God intended - “they will all wear out …”. Bible told thousands of years ago the fact which evolutionists still don’t understand - there is no evolution! Just entropy and devolution. The Law of Entropy rules the whole universe. That's why we are heading towards the universal heat death where the universal temperature will be near 0°K and there's no free energy anymore. All this goes just like the Bible says. Indeed, I prefer believing in something that is NOT scientifically proven non-existent (God) than believing in something that IS proven non-existent (abiogenesis / evolution). Genesis tells what the inept human science is trying to discover. Accordingly, the deeper science advances the more it discovers, and the more it discovers the more it proves of Genesis. For example, creation is made of particles, indiscernible to our eyes (Hebrews 11:3). Not until the 19th century was it discovered that all visible matter consists of invisible elements just like Bible tells. Genesis tells the work of God, not just the work of a vague Intelligent Designer. The Intelligent Designer indeed has name - Lord Jesus (Yeshua Adonai). He is not a religion but the Truth. Scientific studies are full of evidence for creation, each new discovery supporting the others. As an example we can take the fossil evidence. In the so called Cambrian rock layers (in evolutionary terms and taking uniformitarianism as a fact ...) we see the first fossilized structures. Remarkably, they are all complete functional structures which appear suddenly in huge masses without preceding transitional forms. If evolution was true, we could of course see the transitional forms but there aren't any. The obvious answer is creation. Of course we can reject the evolutionary terms, as we reject the whole idea of evolution. In fact, that's exactly what every person using his/her brains should do. "If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and utters like a duck it most probably is a duck." When billions of things have the appearance of design, they most probably are designed. Science should be based on probabilities, but atheism is based on improbabilities. We have been brainwashed and indoctrinated into believing a lie that has ZERO empirical scientific evidence to support it. I believe that you have an emotional attachment to an a priori assumption that "evolution" is true. Not because it is part of science (which it is NOT) but because "evolution made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist". (Richard Dawkins)
mighty chondria lol 🤓 you made another chemistry nerd joke but I don't know if you realized it, when talking about chaperonins you said Jesus had a solution 😂🤓
This guy states it is impossible for a cell to arise by chance, but evolution does not make that claim! Evolution is many many minute changes over millions and millions of years not a sudden jump. In addition this guy is happy to accept a god did it without providing any explanation for god! A god that by definition must be the most complicated thing in or outside of the universe!! a billion billion times more complicated than a cell!
You don't need a degree to think! Einstein's degree when he wrote in the early 1900's? PS I do have a PhD and can testify that the process did more to limit (focus) thought than expand it!
@@eswn1816 As one educated person to another, I agree that a degree doesn't improve one's thinking ability. It does however, expose one to a much wider range of information. My degree exposed me to biology, chemistry, physics and most of all, earth sciences. These, plus fifty years of experience have convinced me that the universe is natural and infinite. I see nothing that can't be explained naturally. I find religion to be repetitive, plagerized from one text to another, and simple minded.
@@duradim1 Tell me why I need a savior. I have led a good life, been kind to people and animals and saved more than a few lives. My kids and grandkids are good and honorable people. If there is an after life I'm pretty sure listening to some self important wind bag preacher talk about an imaginary being is not going to effect my going there.
@@gregjones2217 there is an afterlife. And yes, you are going there. While you may be a very moral person, and that is admirable, and saved more than a few lives, you still need a Savior. No one is sinless except Jesus. He is your only hope.
"The fool has said in his heart there is no God."
And your point is!?
I feel like a fool for buying into the "we all came from a rock" narrative
I'm 47 and I still struggle with doubt, but I have always known there is a God Who went through all the trouble of creating us
@@skeeterburke No one claims we came from a rock! LOL That claim is blatant creationist lying!!
One might expect a deity, if there were such a thing, would be known by everyone or is fudging the title a bit.
The fraud of religious people is revealed by the failure rate of prayers in a children's hospital & the lack of mountains moving by verbal commands.
@@twosheds1749They never said that
It is always a thrill to me to see a genuine, rigorous scientific treatment of the complexity in the biochemistry of the cell, giving God the glory for it all!
Only an idiot would draw that conclusion.
Indeed glory belongs to the maker 😎
I love ICR. My two adult children are now also enthusiastically supporting Creation ministries, at least partly because they have seen the difference in their own lives between ignoring God and following Christ. Now they are thrilled to be showing their own children the first steps in Christian faith and hope. The one with my two older grandchildren visited the Ark Encounter with her husband and their two children in July and absolutely loved it. My other child and his wonderful wife have an infant and they regularly watch excellent videos as they walk with God, educating themselves and telling others and their church about several ministries, including ICR.
ICR you rock! Love everything you do
Amen ICR! 🙂✝️🙏 you gave us a lot of homework with 3 videos so I'm taking it one at a time 😂 God bless
Thank you so much 🤗 good information
Dr. Thomas, this was so amazing! Thank you!
Long Story Short!
This is a good presentation. To have access to more in one book I recommend: The Stairway to Life: An Origin of Life Reality Check by Han and Stadler
07:10 impossible step 1: the formation of building blocks
13:52 impossible step 2: chirality issue
You skipped a step on chirality. You assumed ribose yet even Benner's team could only make some racemic sugars that were thoroughly contaminated with junk. Next you have to make long chains of the carbohydrates hooked together in the correct spots. There are a trillion different possible combinations they can hookup but only the correct way will work.
He said in the beginning he would not be addressing all the steps but only 7 of the 12.
06:28 7 steps on why abiogenesis is impossible. We can know that God formed all things!
I see you have a questioning perspective................God did it.
@@1414141x At least one thing is sure: abiogenesis and evolution did nothing because both are scientifically proven fictions.
@1414141x there are only two explanations for life, 1) either everything came from nothing , 2) or there was always something, if nothing comes from nothing then there's only one other solution, god. It's up to you where you put your faith,
@@1414141x - *_Somebody_* did it and that _somebody_ possesses the attributes necessary to create life. Those attributes equate to God. Life doesn't _just_ happen. Natural processes cannot produce life. Try to follow the argument.
18:20 impossible step 6: membranes
17:12 impossible step 3: the water paradox
32:30 impossible step 7: means to harness energy
Please include links in the video description to any videos shown on the screen during the presentation, as the audio does not convey well here.
Very enjoyable talk! And all true. ❤
05:30 the motivations of Darwin
25:00 impossible step 5: DNA repair
Dumb question: Are proteins created in any specific order, or in some first-come, first-serve order?
03:18 figured! I figured most people would believe that. I voted yes 😁
Pond scum and lightning ain't what it used to be!
21:42 impossible step 4: biopolymer reproduction
Think about the trillions upon trillions of organizational points!
Evolutionists always think that the basic building blocks of life are RNA, not DNA, maybe because they say they found a lot of RNA in space? I understand about cell machines, I'm a medical person....so how should I explain it to them?
With RNA you can make proteins. With proteins/enzymes you can make DNA
While RNA monomers may exist in space, RNA _poly_ mers are very unstable and are created by living things only. Life only comes from life.
2 things man cant create life or a grain of sand
Everyone is a scientist they all trip over and jump over things they cant make
You can skip school and know this
🐦you forgot #Abiogenesis tag
What you don't hear is how god put all the chemicals together to make a human being or an animal or a plant. Or how he made everything else. Can you explain this too me please ?
The Bible doesn't give details on that other that he spoke everything into existence except mankind as he made Adam from the dust of the earth with His hands and breathed into Adam's nostrils and He made Eve from one of Adam's ribs.
@@HolySpiritIsSatanOfSinDethHell So god is a bit like Trump then ?
@@1414141x
Greetings I hope all is well neighborino!!! Well I hope you're one of the few! God bless you my neighbor! ✝️🙏📖🫡
@@1414141x I don't know about "god" but the God manifested in Bible created all through his Word (Jesus Christ). And we can see that it works.
"Can you explain this too me please?" Ask God ... Science is working to find out how God created everything but science probably won't ever be able to know everything.
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First of all, natural processes must make the chemicals to begin with.
They cannot.
Where is that soup supposed to come from to begin with, nothing can be explained without creation.
A lot more thought, argument and discussion has gone into how life began on earth and evolution than has gone into discussing how god did it.
If you want to know how God did it just ask him. I doubt if you'll understand him. Personally, I don't care. God bless
Keep thinking,arguing and discussing on how, evolution presumes many miracles based on one single cell without knowing how the cell came to be.
Irreducible complexity.
Epigenetics.
Bye bye naturalistic explanations
I love science without the lies
It's time we replace the mythology of natural selection with the observable truth of divine selection.
@@philhart4849 the wait is over. God's existence is verified by both observable science and documented history. The Law of Biogenesis states that life only comes from preexisting life. That means the origin of life has to be an eternal living source. What do we know from documented history that fits that qualification? Only God.
@@refuse2bdcvd324 "God's existence is verified by both observable science and documented history." And that observable science and documented history is what exactly?
@@PhilHart-j9y the Law of Biogenesis, which states that life only comes from preexisting life, indicating that the origin of life has to be an eternal living source. What do we see in documented history that fits that requirement-- only God.
Every thing we have come to understand has been as a result of the natural forces that we can explain in detail. Not once have we found a divine cause for anything, ever. These facts would seem to make material the logical default for the things we have yet to figure out until some evidence is found for a demonstrable act of divine creation.
Got any?
@@refuse2bdcvd324with all due respect, the “Law of biogenesis“ is not a thing outside of someone’s imagination.
That we don't know how something worked doesn't mean it is impossible.
Even If there was a creator, it doesn't mean that Genesis is right.
But the genealogy is backed up by archeology proving the historicity of the Bible. And the fossil record and the rock layers. How much evidence do you want? Even meeting Jesus face to face wasn't good enough for most people. Especially the leaders of the day. There are two classes of scripture you need to reject. 1 those inserted by men that are not in the original text. Two examples are the words "alone" which was added by martin Luther to saved by grace. And the story of the adulteress. 2scripture twisted to justify breaking the commandments and or teach pagan doctrine as biblical doctrine
That we don't know how God worked doesn't mean God is impossible. We however know that God worked through his Word.
@@jounisuninen You don't know, you believe.
Scientific discovery and knowledge has pretty much detroyed all the fear we had of lightning, thunder, storms, volcanoes, tsunamis, plagues etc etc. Prior all these were used by the religious to say these were punishments from god. Now we know they are not. We have one more step to go......
Evolutionists require a lot of blind faith.
And you have your 2000 year old book !
@@1414141x We'll technically some parts are older than others, but yes.
@@1414141x That book knows more than world's all evolutionist books put together. It has predicted the future of mankind and all universe correctly.
Of course you think that. You don't have an open mind. Your mind is in a small room with no windows and a locked door.@@jounisuninen
@@1414141x It seems that the more ignorant a person is, the more he is inclined towards atheism. As I said, Bible has predicted the future of mankind and the universe correctly. In his posthumously-published Observations upon the Prophecies of Daniel, and the Apocalypse of St. John, Isaac Newton expressed his belief that Bible prophecy would not be understood "until the time of the end", and that even then "none of the wicked shall understand".
There is only one Trinitarian God. He is manifested in Bible. Everything that science has found and is finding out, testifies for the scientific facts revealed in Bible. Bible does not use scientific language because that is made by humans for our own inept scientific studies. Instead, Bible tells how God worked and what is waiting us in the future. We can take the Law of Entropy. Bible tells us that nothing is evolving but devolving. This means no Darwinian Universal Common Ancestor was possible. The principal direction of all natural processes is decay, the process towards the universal heat death of the universe. That's what entropy means. So there are no "miracles", just the way how God created our universe and how He will roll it up:
Hebrews 1:10-12
10 He also says,“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
11 They will perish, but you remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
12 You will roll them up like a robe;
like a garment they will be changed.
But you remain the same,
and your years will never end.”
Thermodynamics is working all the time just as God intended - “they will all wear out …”. Bible told thousands of years ago the fact which evolutionists still don’t understand - there is no evolution! Just entropy and devolution. The Law of Entropy rules the whole universe. That's why we are heading towards the universal heat death where the universal temperature will be near 0°K and there's no free energy anymore. All this goes just like the Bible says.
Indeed, I prefer believing in something that is NOT scientifically proven non-existent (God) than believing in something that IS proven non-existent (abiogenesis / evolution).
Genesis tells what the inept human science is trying to discover. Accordingly, the deeper science advances the more it discovers, and the more it discovers the more it proves of Genesis. For example, creation is made of particles, indiscernible to our eyes (Hebrews 11:3). Not until the 19th century was it discovered that all visible matter consists of invisible elements just like Bible tells. Genesis tells the work of God, not just the work of a vague Intelligent Designer. The Intelligent Designer indeed has name - Lord Jesus (Yeshua Adonai). He is not a religion but the Truth.
Scientific studies are full of evidence for creation, each new discovery supporting the others. As an example we can take the fossil evidence. In the so called Cambrian rock layers (in evolutionary terms and taking uniformitarianism as a fact ...) we see the first fossilized structures. Remarkably, they are all complete functional structures which appear suddenly in huge masses without preceding transitional forms. If evolution was true, we could of course see the transitional forms but there aren't any. The obvious answer is creation.
Of course we can reject the evolutionary terms, as we reject the whole idea of evolution. In fact, that's exactly what every person using his/her brains should do. "If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and utters like a duck it most probably is a duck." When billions of things have the appearance of design, they most probably are designed. Science should be based on probabilities, but atheism is based on improbabilities.
We have been brainwashed and indoctrinated into believing a lie that has ZERO empirical scientific evidence to support it. I believe that you have an emotional attachment to an a priori assumption that "evolution" is true. Not because it is part of science (which it is NOT) but because "evolution made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist". (Richard Dawkins)
Darwin gets God's reward for all fools who deny Him... the wages of sin is death.
A typical threat from a religious zealot. Pathetic.
mighty chondria lol 🤓 you made another chemistry nerd joke but I don't know if you realized it, when talking about chaperonins you said Jesus had a solution 😂🤓
The UK is “CELLebrating, CELLebrating Darwin. See what I did there? Huh? Huh? Am I funny or am I funny?
False dichotomy. You're not funny.
Jesus did it? I thought the devil did it. 😈👿
Bible explains how, when, why and by whom all happened. Devil had nothing to do with it.
This guy states it is impossible for a cell to arise by chance, but evolution does not make that claim! Evolution is many many minute changes over millions and millions of years not a sudden jump. In addition this guy is happy to accept a god did it without providing any explanation for god! A god that by definition must be the most complicated thing in or outside of the universe!! a billion billion times more complicated than a cell!
actually evolution does make that claim
and the Cambrian explosion contradicts "many many minute changes over millions and millions of years not a sudden jump"
"God is too complicated for me to understand, therefore evolution did it!"
@@HS-zk5nn No it does not!! The origin of life is called abiogenesis! Look it up!!
@@HS-zk5nn You can carry on with being in denial or wise up and accept the evidence and the truth! 🙂
I doubt that you have degree that qualifies you to discuss Darwin.
You don't need a degree to think!
Einstein's degree when he wrote in the early 1900's?
PS I do have a PhD and can testify that the process did more to limit (focus) thought than expand it!
@@eswn1816 As one educated person to another, I agree that a degree doesn't improve one's thinking ability. It does however, expose one to a much wider range of information.
My degree exposed me to biology, chemistry, physics and most of all, earth sciences. These, plus fifty years of experience have convinced me that the universe is natural and infinite. I see nothing that can't be explained naturally.
I find religion to be repetitive, plagerized from one text to another, and simple minded.
@@gregjones2217 but yet you still need a Savior. Don't let yourself leave this life without Him.
@@duradim1 Tell me why I need a savior. I have led a good life, been kind to people and animals and saved more than a few lives. My kids and grandkids are good and honorable people. If there is an after life I'm pretty sure listening to some self important wind bag preacher talk about an imaginary being is not going to effect my going there.
@@gregjones2217 there is an afterlife. And yes, you are going there. While you may be a very moral person, and that is admirable, and saved more than a few lives, you still need a Savior. No one is sinless except Jesus. He is your only hope.
The audience may be ready for Science, but they will not be getting it from you.
Because you said so? Sure 🥱
Keep on bullshitting yourself.
Can you explain or rebut any of the 7 points the presenter made?