L.T. Wright Knives - Genesis Flat vs Genesis Scandi Comparison
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- After fielding the question about which L.T. Wright Genesis model would be best to own many times, the Genesis Flat or the Genesis Scandi, I decided to do a quick run down on the differences on video. I hope this helps out to make a better more informed decision about which may fit your personal preference.
Genesis Flat: www.ltwrightknives.com/genesi...
Genesis Scandi: www.ltwrightknives.com/genesi...
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5 years later and you still helped me out big time!! Thank you for your comparisons!
Great comparison Joe! I know you love to use a bushcraft blade in the kitchen just as much as me. IF you had taken these 2 into the kitchen like you normally do people would have seen how the full flat is superior in the kitchen for slicing as well. Especially on something that breaks out easily like an apple. Thanks for sharing with us!
You really do a great job testing the knives and articulating the different aspects of the knives.
Thanks Joe - great comparison - wish I had the money to compare the two - but until then, I LOVE my scandi grind - best knife I've ever owned
Great job comparing the two, Joe! Bought the Genesis (scandi) for my wife ;) at Blade last year and won it's little brother, Next Gen, minutes later. Messed around some with the flat grind carving a pot hook yesterday and found it very capable. Love the combo!
+Survival Sherpa Yeah, I am drooling over that Next Gen! Those look to be like some handy dandy little blades. And I bet those two grinds do work very well in concert with each other. Nice concept, I like it. Thanks Todd!
I prefe a scndi grind for woodworking and that is the main thing one does when camping surviving or just Bushcrafting
Thanks Joe as I'm looking at the L. T. Wright Genesis and any and all info is great. I have a flat grind ESEE and was thinking with the Genesis I will try the Scandi.
+Robert Sturgill Both are great knives so I don't think you'll be disappointed by either.
I'm waiting on my Saber grind Genesis super excited, cant seem to find even a few so I guess its pretty rare. Thanks for such a great comparison bud
Thanks for this comparison Joe! Been looking forward to it. Would love to see the next gen or bushcrafter mark ii next.
+Doc O LOL you don't ask much, do ya? hahaha Just teasing man. I will see what I can do. Thanks!
Thanks Joe. I already jumped on the scandi and also got the next gen. Best of both worlds.
+Hikeyourmind That would make a great pair right there!
Thanks for this video! I'm wondering, at the end you say that if you're crafting you lean toward the scandi... I learned from you that the flat is better at feathers but would you say that as a general wood worker the scandi is better? (aside from making feathers)
Thanks again, really enjoy your videos.
As you said, the heat treat is great on LT's knives. Really a thoughtful review of the Genesis knife with both grinds. Have a Genesis in Scandi Grind and really enjoy it. But might end up with a Flat Grind Genesis. Either way like you said, it is mostly preference. Thanks for the video!
+Larry Norris Thanks for watching and for the feedback Larry. Yeah it really is preference overall. LT's knives are ones you know you can just pick up and run with and trust the craftsmanship side of the blade to be right on imo. (I am sure there are "burps" here and there but overall, they just work)
Thanks for the video ! I have the Genesis in Scandi and I love the heft of it. I have a BK16 (flat grind) that I modded a bit (scales, squared spine,high polish) and it feels like a toy to me by comparison. BTW I ordered a Bushtool from Blackfeather due in no small part to your review of it. Thanks again for sharing !
+SurvivalComms Oh man you are going to love that blade, and I do mean LOVE. Now you have me very jealous!! Thanks!
Thanks for the comparison. You did a great job! I have very limited experience with flat grinds and a whole lot of experience with the scandi. You got me thinking maybe I should give the flat another go :)
- Martin
+NorwegianWoods My experience with flats are pretty limited too. Mostly on knives far larger then this Genesis. This comparison isn't on all flat grinds, just on this one. To be honest, I was really surprised I like it as much as I do. Thanks!
I picked up the Genesis Scandi the other day, but I haven't had an opportunity to use it yet. Looking forward to trying it out.
While I can't speak for you, I think you'll really enjoy it. But I am biased, I absolutely love the blade. Thanks!
So I bought both after our conversation a while back. I like them both It is hard to say which is my favorite like you point out they both have their strong points.
+Adam Nichols Yep, I know I frustrated a lot of you guys when you asked and I couldn't give a concrete answer which was better. Now you understand lol
very good video, Joe.
Certainly and educational one.
Good comparison. I have the answer to which one to buy... both, plus a sabre grind :) For me, I have found that a flat grinds take less force than a scandi on deeper cuts, I believe due to the resistance once you get past the transition of the grind to the flats on a scandi. Conversely, I have found scandi grinds split wood better because there is less metal in contact with the wood.
+Mark Young (Shunpyke) I've found these two to be very comparable in splitting tasks. Maybe it's just LT's design. He does have it thinned down really well so it does perform in many ways much like a scandi. Thanks!
What would the advantages be if any for.a 3/16 in. (.186) with a high scandi grind? It is in 01 tool.steel. Just ordered one in Next Gen. configuration. Really enjoy your channel.
Great comparison. I reckon I would need to handle both like you did to decide which would be better for me. Good for me, bad for Mrs. me who doesn't share my fascination with blades. Thanks for sharing this.
+Bill K. Yeah, it really boils down to what you like to do and personal preference on these. They are both excellent blades. Thansk Bill!
Hello, I wanted to ask you based on your experience for bushcraft contelli if the profile scandi or flati is better? Let me know what you think, thanks Michele.
excellent review of the 2 kinds of grinds on the same knife. Im a big scandi fan but you made some really good points about the convex grind :)
+Live The Adventure I am a big scandi fan too. LT did a rockin job turning this flat into a work horse. Thanks!
I have an LT Wright Wine Bushcrafter. I love it :P
Well done. I have both knives. I have a hard time choosing.
Great comparison, thank you,
+Ed Faringer Thanks Ed, I appreciate that!
clean, informative, and to the point, I like it!
+BearHart Outdoors I appreciate that Micah, thank you. Thanks for the feedback my friend.
Great video, enjoyed watching!
+fuenstock Thank you very much, I appreciate you watching!
You did a great review Joe. I have the same scale :-) enough said.
+Donny B LOL!! I think we shop at the same store Donny haha. Thanks!
Great Video Joe! Thanks Much!
+James White Thanks James!
I bought one of the full flat grind Genesis models and was unhappy with the wasted space at the end of the blade/ricasso. If they would bring the sharp blade down closer to the handle this would be a fantastic knife in my opinion. I sold the knife off because of that. Nice comparison video. I have moved away from scandis, but I appreciate the work and you sharing this video. Thank you.
+Diopterman That is my only complaint as well. I am not sure if I want to sell it off b/c of that but I totally understand what you are saying. Being honest with you, the more I hardcore practice knife grinds aside from scandi, the more I am leaning away from them too. What grind have you moved to, if i may ask? Thanks!
Feral Woodcraft
I am leaning more towards full flat grinds and convex.
+Diopterman That is the direction I've been experimenting with here a lot lately. Cool!
great video brother. how du you compare the push cutting of the scandi vs the bark river you tested?
+Modernbushcraft That particular Bark River would win. Move on up to a comparable sized Bark River (Bravo 1, Squad Leader, etc) and the scandi on the Genesis would win. Don't get me wrong, the Bark Rivers can handle it easily, but would take a bit more time. Thanks!
+Feral Woodcraft thank you brother. :-)
Good analysis. I prefer the Scandi myself.
wow, by watching this vid i may buy my first flat grind knife. I always thought they sucked.... great video Joe
+SCOOP DE DOOP It's the convex coupled with the thinness of the blade, it really performs well. On a lot of other full flats, I would completely agree with you. Thanks!
I want to get an lt Wright knife, but I am unsure of the steel type. Could you talk steel? Ie: a2, d2, 3v, etc
Thanks for this 🙂
I like to carve so I tend to lean twards a Scandi. I am not a fan of convex grinds I find them a pain in the back side to sharpen. I have to think the flat grind would be better for processing game. A full flat with a convex grind would slice through meat like a light saber. Have you tried one of these knives on a deer or some other kind of game? Right tool for the right job! great video Joe.
+Adventure Time Outdoors I have processed game with the scandi Genesis but not the Flat model. Do you have a ceramic rod and a strop? Those are (in my opinion) the best tools for the job of touching up a convex. Thanks!
My solution for the GNS was to get both because they are so awesome!
+Bob Wampler LOL!! I really like the way you think ;) :)
Very informative. Thanks Amigo!! :)
+Charles Larson I appreciate ya hanging around Charles :) By the way Sir, that stove you wanted to see and then we spoke about...goes live tomorrow bud.
They also make a saber grind version which is what I have and prefer.
I have the flat, but on the smaller Next Gen, and I'm more than happy with it. Still, the Scandi tempts me...
+cma454ns I bet that Next Gen is dandy bigger sized EDC. I love the scandi too!
The weight difference might have something to do with the lanyard on the scandi grind Genesis. Just an observation. Another great video Joe.
+papaschuette Good observation! I thought of that before filming. I weighed a similar lanyard and it didn't even register on the scale (the scale only goes in .05 increments). Oh I fully realize it is apart of the 1/10 but it's not a significant portion. Thank you for the support, as always!
Feral Woodcraft Thank you for all the informative videos. I just wish I would have found out about LTWK before I purchased my PKS Kephart. Mine is still a very capable knife. I just like the grind options for the Genesis.
Joe, you are the best!!! :)
+Roberto de Bem I am sure there are LOTS of people that would disagree with you but thanks man!
Is the tip on the flat ground Genesis brittle in your use? I've l had a Scandi Genesis and looking at my new flat Genesis it has a VERY fine tip. I actually broke the tip off of my bark river aurora doing a bow drill due to the extra fine tip. I guess that made a bit paranoid.
Nope, not a bit and there were many bow drills made with that knife before I gave it away. That surprises me about the Aurora. I should have one in my hand relatively soon and I look forward to seeing what that is about. Thanks!
I believe I'm just used to the broad tip on Scandi knives. The aurora has about the finest tip I've ever seen on a bush knife. Back river took care of it, no questions asked and gave it a slightly blunter tip. Haven't had any issues since. Thanks for the reply!
Bark river*
Fire, Knife, Stove, Food... Man?! Now which is it?
Which of these knives would survive the most abuse/use? Thanks again, good review.
What kind of sweater is that? Looks like a great wool sweater.
I keep making feather sticks but can't get my ferro rod to lite them. What am I doing wrong? Are they holding mositer? Are they not thin enough? Please help
Hi Ryan :) Well, without seeing your feather stick I can't really say bud. Have you watched this: th-cam.com/video/BkwkftLO0o0/w-d-xo.html
If you haven't, let me know and I'll broach feathers and shavings specifically here. We'll get it figured out :)
This only works with VERY dry wood. You need some tinder.
Interesting comparison of two identical knives, except for the grind.
For me, the weight issue was a big plus for the flat grind knife.
Concerning the curls: I was not quite sure which one you prefer. Sorry, I might have misunderstood. I am led to believe (by TH-cam videos) that Scandi grind is vastly superior, and have come to understand that to be a PROPER "Bushcraft" knife, it MUST be a Scandi ! However, it seems to me that the ONLY thing that Scandi is supposed to do better is make fine curls!
Another thing; one thing is abundantly clear - Scandi grind knives are notoriously difficult to sharpen in the field! Even in a workshop with numerous tools it is quite difficult. On the other hand, flat grind knives with small secondary bevels can be given an edge with very small, light stones that are very easy to incorporate into other gear. To me, this is a definite advantage not often addressed by the pro-Scandi lobby.
Lastly, I'd like someone to explain what specific outdoor tasks that Scandi knife CAN do, that the flat grind CANNOT do, and why not.
were you ever able to get your hands on a LT Wright Knives Next Gen I'd like to see a good edc video and look at that knife.
I'll get my hands on one. I'm not sure how soon but it will hsppen. LT had another blade he wanted me to put through the paces first. It'll happen though.
+Feral Woodcraft any word on the lt wright next gen review?
+Chance Stotts I'm currently working on another LT blade review. After this one, I'll see what I can do on a next gen. thanks!
What would you prefer,a bravo 1 lt or the genesis flat?
Depends on the day :)
Both but I do like the convex on the bravo 1 but I love beating on my flat blades add me all to the collection
I was going to ask when you like least.. not better. lol
I kinda want both of them.. lol
Thanks for the video brother
+Eat Carbs LOL Mark! Fine, split hairs :P Thanks man!
>_o
Damn it!!! It's gonna be one of each, thanks for nothing! Lol....The addiction is real!
👍's up and may the blessings of the Lord be upon you all.
+Randy Parker Thanks Randy, same to you!
For your spare time Joe, you really do have some of the most horrible "jobs to do" out there. You poor man, having to use things like two of the same yet different LTW Knives. My nose drips for you in sympathy!
Personal preference, I like scandi the best. Cant put into words why, "it just feels right".
great video Joe!!
+MrTatts64 Oh yeah, I can feel your deep compassion and my unfortunate situation in your post there. I am touched ;) :-P LOL Thanks!
This didn't help Me one bit lol. It is all personal opinion. Seemed like your GNS sabre video. As 99% certain I will be getting a GNS I can't decide over scandi or sabre. But it really seems to come down to "ease" of push cuts. This helps me none lol... But great info Joe and excellent demo and pros and cons..
+falcon1349 Buy one of each :)
+Eat Carbs That is a option and what it'll probably come down too...
Live the dream brother
Sorry lol it is really and truly most personal preference/opinion. Is there a specific question that you have that might help?
+Feral Woodcraft No. Honestly all I've owned are scandi grinds as far as bushcraft goes. Really plan on gns as I fell in love with your gns sabre video. Trying to decide if I want to try something new as far as grind or stay with what I know.
Full grind all the way
I prefer the Scandi when I'm carving green wood, and I prefer the flat grind for non-wood working tasks. But I've never before used a flat grind knife that had a secondary bevel, and I won't again. I think the Scandi is also much easier to sharpen in the field, particularly if you have to sharpen with something that isn't a large, expensive stone. I also don't believe it's the secondary bevel makes the edge stronger. You don't need a secondary bevel to make the edge thick. A true sabre grind is a perfect example. Putting a secondary bevel on a flat grind makes no sense at all to me. It defeats the whole purpose of a flat grind. I have learned I'm not nearly as fond of A2 steel as I thought I would be. But I don't beat on any blade, regardless of the steel. In more than fifty years in the wild, I've never yet found a case where I needed to hit a knife with a club.
Thanks for the thoughtful comment James. It's all about preferences I suppose.
still waiting on l.t. wright next gen.
I am pleased to inform you I now own one and there is a review forthcoming in the next couple of weeks. Thanks for your patience.
I know you said you have it but I'm still waiting on that lt wright next gen review.
the full flat knives do not really work well at all for wood, where the scandi excels.