What he described about certain books referencing other books and the books that get referenced the most are the ones that the most useful, that's the same thing I've done with teachers. That's how I found teachers that have helped me a lot in life.
@@bowswindle8701 No more The Bible than Homer and the Greek Tragedians, and I could argue the latter's influence was more literary than the former. The Bible's influence was more, well, religious. Dante, Shakespeare, and Milton may have looked to The Bible for content, themes, and allusions, but they looked to Homer (and Virgil, who was contemporary with some of The Bible) for literary models.
@@jonathanhenderson9422 you could argue that but you’d be disagreeing with most literary scholars! Funny you mention Dante & Milton’s who’s main works literally wouldn’t have existed without the Bible. Yes “homer” is also a basis for literature but to call it more influential is just not factual.
@@bowswindle8701 I'm NOT disagreeing with most literary scholars. Yes, Dante and Milton took their content from The Bible, not their literary style, craft, form, or anything else. As a writer I can tell you that content matters far less than style, craft, and form. The latter is what separates the great writers from the poor and mediocre. Also, it is absolutely factual that Homer was more influential than The Bible in a literary sense. There are even scholars who think The Bible's authors were influenced by the Homeric myths, but that's debatable.
@@jonathanhenderson9422 SINCE YOU ARE REPLYING TO @bowswindle8701 and i will suppose you are also a christian or Do you know the bible itself references other older books
Every man should read Don Quixote at least one time in their life. The amount of ideas in Cervante's work is outstanding. If you want to appreciate the beauty of the loser and how brutal the reality is, there's no rival.
Wow, thanks Charlie , Because I have a listen to lectures on Don Quijote and have been trying to find the time to read it in your comment has helped me decide that I will read it next
@@Jedi_Mind_ You're welcome. The first book can be read as a collection of short stories. It is in the second book that you actually find the most philosophical content (though the first one also has some of it). Enjoy your reading!
I would ad Euel Ardens - Down Here in the Warmth. Wow. is all i can say. This book is about a race riot in NYC but barely mentions race. No victimization. No woke simpy messages for men. Just responsibility and teaching that responsibility through example. And exposing the media manipulation of the masses. One of the best books I've ever read.
A few books I might include on such a list, other than the obvious (The Bible, which he mentioned in the video). Note: most of these are fairly modern works. Darkness At Noon by Arthur Koestler. Most of the ideological differences in our world make a lot more sense after reading this book. The Road by Cormac McCarthy. Three words: Carry. The. Fire. With Fire and Sword by Henryk Sienkiewicz. Adventure, comedy, romance, war, horror, and triumph. Even a bit of supernatural. This book is an epic by any standards.
Read the great books of the Western tradition. That's not "the patriarchy" or whatever, that's just appreciating and respecting great art (literature), like admiring a great cathedral or a beautiful painting or profoundly resonant musical piece.
Some folks think erasing all roots is beneficial. I think I would disagree, even though those roots possess some ugliness. It's like the Star Trek episode Tapestry. You pull on an untidy thread and you unravel the entire beautiful piece. Then you're left with nothing.
The more we understand Christianity, the more we can understand European history, including the colonial and post colonial period (and so therefore the entire earth).The more we understand history, the more we can understand ourselves. The more we understand ourselves, the more power we shall have to better steer the ship of humanity into the future. The alternative is like driving whilst blindfolded…..at least this allows us to pry a portion of the blindfold away from the field of our vision and help us see what’s up ahead of us a little more clearly. It would be hugely ignorant to simply dismiss Christianity as some outdated and ancient form of thinking.
One thing I wonder is if these books are a call to adventures then surely they are just a means to an end? Finding a call to adventure must surely be a means to going on the adventure itself?
He did not mention the Upanishads, or ancient books from the East at all, he is only in the Judeo Christian context that by the way is not the most deep or ancient at all.
For me books of fiction become canonical when they point to certain universal truths and philosophical juxtapositions through entertainment and souls searching from the writer. Yes! There is always a truth behind learning through play.
I started a journey of reading some time ago. Reading mainly self-help. Philosophy and that sort that can help me directly. But I recently read 1984 and The Alchemist. There is more than enough room for fictitious literature to provoke deep thinking and further understanding.
I used to be a school teacher. Larry Gonick's, "Cartoon History of the Universe" and Bill Bryson's , "a Short History of Nearly Everything" were books that I thought all should read. Their list of bibliography's in the back are very useful. Lots of other stuff too, but those come to mind as short and to the point. The bible is helpful party fodder because you can pretty much justify any action with it, and like you said, a lot springs from it. I've often said something to the effect of "I don't know what pisses me off more, people that read the bible and don't read Darwin or people that read Darwin and don't read the bible." Your suggestions are always nice, I enjoy your channel, thanks for posting and keep up the good work!
Why The Bible rather than Homer, the Greek Tragedians, and Virgil? The latter were far more influential in terms of literary import. The Bible perhaps provided more thematic influences, but very few of the later great authors took The Bible as a literary model. If you want to understand Milton you need to read Virgil more than The Bible; if you want to understand Shakespeare you need to read Euripides (and Chaucer) more than The Bible.
I see no list in the video, won't bother looking for one. Anyway, counterpoint - read whatever the heck you like, not many people can (or should) drag through bible (old one super boring, maybe new one?), dante (super cryptic, need explanations of explanations) or dostoyevski (spelling?) Just read
Bertrand Russell's History of Western Philosophy has a positivist bias and is not great on a number of periods, such as early Greek philosophy and medieval philosophy. I would read Anthony Kenny's history of philosophy instead.
The rant about toxic masculinity are simply jealousy over other capable human's achievements that resonated beyond their generation and time. Something narcissists wish they could but cant due to their self indulgence
It is sadly much more than jealousy, it's about controlling a wider narrative to enable tyranny. Look at all Western society and compare how weak men's positions are, it has no other reason than to empower the elites through curtailing your natural power fulfillment process. Modern man replaced this process with substitute activities, the result is mass population decline in the Western world. We have been led like lambs to the slaughter and yet most choose to ignore the obvious. A sad reality really.
Certainly, the King James version is one of the most beautiful books in English. Treat it as a work of fiction, with crap stories, but brilliant language.
The Bible is an amalgam of different authors, philosophies (often contradictory), and WTF moments. On the one hand you get absurdities like the story of Lot and his family and Jesus killing a fig tree, and on the other you have exquisite poetry like the Song of Songs. The importance of knowing the stories of the Bible, the Greek myths, or Buddha is that much of western literature makes allusions to them. If there is a reference to the Prodigal Son or Sisyphus the reader can instantly apply the lesson of the original story to the present one.
The Bible is a good start #2 the lord of the rings #3 everything Niccolo Machiavelli wrote #4 the communist manifesto #5 my struggle That’s a good foundation if you ask me
He's not wrong, but what a horrible, convoluted explanation of an idea rendered much more cogently, succinctly, and powerfully by the likes of Mortimer Adler, Will Durant, and Harold Bloom. A lot got watered down in this attempted explanation of an otherwise very important idea.
Peterson is desperate to impress you with his vocabulary. He's quite often right, but he can take an unnecessarily long time to get to the point. As Disraeli said about Gladstone, he is "a sophistical rhetorician, inebriated with the exuberance of his own verbosity".
It's a pretty mediocre novel, compared with the novels of his time. His contemporaries were Barth, Gass, Reed, Elkin. The disparity in quality is tremendous! It was deservedly forgotten, and only a turn to worshipping banal, minimalist prose could have turned him into the genius he's mistaken for.
Arthur Schopenhauer's The world as will and representation influenced Darwin, Freud, Dostojevski , Nietzsche,Einstein,Schrodinger, Wagner,Tolstoi. Reading it is essential for understanding of the world
So many banalities in such a short amount of time. That books exist in relationship to one another is not a "postmodernist" claim; it's a commonsensical saying of old that books are born of other books. The bit about having a small staff to study what makes a canon is laughable in its smugness; that legwork has been done, it was done hundreds of years ago. I can't tell if he's a coward or incurious to define the importance of "canonical" books in the amount of times they've been "quoted". That's a crass, materialistic, celebrity-like, capitalist, quantifiable criterion that leaves no leeway to an individual exploring on his own whatever his conscience's inclined to. It's to give up our own capacity to think and to surrender to the opinions of others. It means being a conformist whose references are the same as everyone else's. That's a path straight to dullness, sameness, and psitacism. Ultimately Peterson is terrified of a changing world that doesn't have the cultural references of his childhood that he's come to value as the touchstone. Instead of encouraging viewers to be audacious and engage with the modern ideas and to take a risk on new books whose "value" hasn't yet calcified, he urges them to play it safe. What a boring man and what boring advice to anyone who truly wants to open his mind to new thoughts. By the way, if we're going by number of citations as the value of a book, I'm dutybound to remind you all that Marx and Chomsky are among the two most quoted persons in academia. Strangely enough, though both more than fulfill Peterson's own criterion, books by both of them are absent from his list.
Read the banned Gnostic writings before you get into the canonical Bible. Context is absolutely everything, and the esoteric Gnostic perspective will give you the proper lens through which to read the Church approved materials that would otherwise be perplexing.
@@freethinker79 But its true. Gnosticism was not fully developed until the late first century, early second century. Certain biblical writings do go against early forms of what transformed into gnosticism.
hola, no me considero una persona virtuosa pero me gustaria serlo, busco hombres y mujeres para construir una verdadera amistad, desde argentina, un fraternal saludo
Peterson's list is a little too narrow and parochial for the modern world. The canon for a globalized 21st century should include not only the Bible, but also the Tao Te Ching, the Quran, the Bhagavad Gita, not to mention the works of Shankara, Maimonides, Avicenna and Rumi, no name but a few.
Agreed. The book of fiction known as the Bible has influenced innumerable works in the past several thousand years. It's all there. Man v man. Man v world. Man learns lesson. Man suffers loss. Man celebrates victory.
My assumption of fiction@@mr.retrohale6673 is due in part to the way opposing religious people view their "works of god" comparatively to the Bible and Christian's view of others. Non believe the ridiculous narrative in the others. They all can't be true. Why would any be considered as Devine if all are not?
@@mr.retrohale6673 You can’t prove a negative. It’s like proving that mermaids don’t exist. I can’t show you proof that there isn’t a mermaid in the ocean. That doesn’t mean mermaids must exist. But scientifically a being that’s half human could not survive underwater. The Bible is full of impossible things. Whether they’re true is irrelevant. The lessons are what’s relevant and it’s that weedy debate that’s caused centuries of struggle.
that literally makes no sense. our world has been created and structured upon these 'antiquated fictions'? how ignorant can one be? I'm not saying that it's empirically true either (which does not matter entirely, the history of humanity's progression is what is to be known and for what reasons). your comment lacks depth.
Oh really? Read The Wanting Seed by Anthony Burgess and see what timeline we are at in that book! It’s also a canonical book in regards to Sodom and Gomorrah 😇
The modern world exists because of the antiquated world. It’s the foundation we live on. The modern world is not separate and one day our time will be antiquated as well.
What he described about certain books referencing other books and the books that get referenced the most are the ones that the most useful, that's the same thing I've done with teachers. That's how I found teachers that have helped me a lot in life.
almost all western lit leads back to the bible!
@@bowswindle8701 No more The Bible than Homer and the Greek Tragedians, and I could argue the latter's influence was more literary than the former. The Bible's influence was more, well, religious. Dante, Shakespeare, and Milton may have looked to The Bible for content, themes, and allusions, but they looked to Homer (and Virgil, who was contemporary with some of The Bible) for literary models.
@@jonathanhenderson9422 you could argue that but you’d be disagreeing with most literary scholars! Funny you mention Dante & Milton’s who’s main works literally wouldn’t have existed without the Bible. Yes “homer” is also a basis for literature but to call it more influential is just not factual.
@@bowswindle8701 I'm NOT disagreeing with most literary scholars. Yes, Dante and Milton took their content from The Bible, not their literary style, craft, form, or anything else. As a writer I can tell you that content matters far less than style, craft, and form. The latter is what separates the great writers from the poor and mediocre. Also, it is absolutely factual that Homer was more influential than The Bible in a literary sense. There are even scholars who think The Bible's authors were influenced by the Homeric myths, but that's debatable.
@@jonathanhenderson9422 SINCE YOU ARE REPLYING TO @bowswindle8701
and i will suppose you are also a christian or
Do you know the bible itself references other older books
This is what Mortimer Adler was saying 70-80 years ago.
It's surprising how under the radar the books on Nixorus are. If you're curious, they're definitely worth a look.
Every man should read Don Quixote at least one time in their life. The amount of ideas in Cervante's work is outstanding. If you want to appreciate the beauty of the loser and how brutal the reality is, there's no rival.
Fantastic ! And so funny ... Well part one at least is funny. Part 2 is more about wiseness.
Wow, thanks Charlie , Because I have a listen to lectures on Don Quijote and have been trying to find the time to read it in your comment has helped me decide that I will read it next
@@Jedi_Mind_ You're welcome. The first book can be read as a collection of short stories. It is in the second book that you actually find the most philosophical content (though the first one also has some of it). Enjoy your reading!
From The Harvard Classics, pdf, on-line.
What English translation do you recommend? I hear the Edith Grossman one is good.
I would ad Euel Ardens - Down Here in the Warmth. Wow. is all i can say. This book is about a race riot in NYC but barely mentions race. No victimization. No woke simpy messages for men. Just responsibility and teaching that responsibility through example. And exposing the media manipulation of the masses. One of the best books I've ever read.
A few books I might include on such a list, other than the obvious (The Bible, which he mentioned in the video). Note: most of these are fairly modern works.
Darkness At Noon by Arthur Koestler. Most of the ideological differences in our world make a lot more sense after reading this book.
The Road by Cormac McCarthy. Three words: Carry. The. Fire.
With Fire and Sword by Henryk Sienkiewicz. Adventure, comedy, romance, war, horror, and triumph. Even a bit of supernatural. This book is an epic by any standards.
it’s kinda crazy how nobody’s talking about Antozent, they are selling 250 self help books for the price of one
Self help books are almost all garbage. This is about REAL books.
Cos everyone gets the books for the price of nothing on the internet
The site sounds like a scam.
Read the great books of the Western tradition. That's not "the patriarchy" or whatever, that's just appreciating and respecting great art (literature), like admiring a great cathedral or a beautiful painting or profoundly resonant musical piece.
Some folks think erasing all roots is beneficial. I think I would disagree, even though those roots possess some ugliness. It's like the Star Trek episode Tapestry. You pull on an untidy thread and you unravel the entire beautiful piece. Then you're left with nothing.
@@theboombody You've got my like or upvote - not only for what you said but also for referencing Star Trek! 😊
@@philtheo I learned a lot from Q and Picard.
Knock off, Proustian ass comment
@@theboombody Those people have no replacement answer based in reality which makes them diabolical at best.
It is, and always has been, the inspired Word of your Creator. Truth doesn't stop being true because of nonbelievers. Best of luck to you.
The truth is also not explicitly the truth, because a believer claims it to be.
The inspired word of the creator that endorses genocide etc...
People still believe God dictated the Bible.
Does this guy ever take a day off?
@@JCPJCPJCP in modern terms be like saying God spoke to me through a computer!!
@@JCPJCPJCP Sunday
I hate to do this to my algorithm but, he right.
😂 I hope you’ve been enlightened in some degree in these last few months
I Agree With Jordan Peterson! He Is A Genius!!!
"Mr. Spontaneous Rides the Bus" - so glad to see this on the list. So underrated.
Agreed. Works that define first principles, or sine qua non, provides the canon with which can be the framework that knowledge is drawn upon.
The more we understand Christianity, the more we can understand European history, including the colonial and post colonial period (and so therefore the entire earth).The more we understand history, the more we can understand ourselves. The more we understand ourselves, the more power we shall have to better steer the ship of humanity into the future. The alternative is like driving whilst blindfolded…..at least this allows us to pry a portion of the blindfold away from the field of our vision and help us see what’s up ahead of us a little more clearly. It would be hugely ignorant to simply dismiss Christianity as some outdated and ancient form of thinking.
True. The same applies to Marxism, socialism, Buddhism, and the teachings of the Koran and the Torah.
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- Homero
- Bible
- Milton
- Dante
- Cervantes
- Shakespeare
- Dostoevsky
Cervantes
Yes. He'd also recommend Dostoevsky.
You got to read Cervantes
Books that all *people should read
Books that all men should read.
One thing I wonder is if these books are a call to adventures then surely they are just a means to an end? Finding a call to adventure must surely be a means to going on the adventure itself?
Try reading the myth of sisyphus, there is no finish line friend. Only the constant, daily becoming.
What about great books from Asia:
The Bhagavad Gita
Tao te ching
Patanjali's Yoga Sutras
All the upanisads
Vijnana bhairava tantra... ...
By this, I can assume that you're Indian and the reason why he didn't read them is maybe because he is not Indian or he have never heard of them
He did not mention the Upanishads, or ancient books from the East at all, he is only in the Judeo Christian context that by the way is not the most deep or ancient at all.
I would nominate "Hadji Murad" by Leo Tolstoy and "Death and the Dervish" on any grand Master 'secular' reading list.
For me books of fiction become canonical when they point to certain universal truths and philosophical juxtapositions through entertainment and souls searching from the writer. Yes! There is always a truth behind learning through play.
I started a journey of reading some time ago. Reading mainly self-help. Philosophy and that sort that can help me directly. But I recently read 1984 and The Alchemist. There is more than enough room for fictitious literature to provoke deep thinking and further understanding.
The book that brings back men to total fitness of mind, spirit, body is "The Carpenter's Workout." Kind of a masterpiece!
I like what he said in the end the will that produces beauty is aligned with that which transcends centuries
I wonder what Prof Peterson would think of the conundrums in the Car Tribe Universe ?
I used to be a school teacher. Larry Gonick's, "Cartoon History of the Universe" and Bill Bryson's , "a Short History of Nearly Everything" were books that I thought all should read. Their list of bibliography's in the back are very useful. Lots of other stuff too, but those come to mind as short and to the point. The bible is helpful party fodder because you can pretty much justify any action with it, and like you said, a lot springs from it. I've often said something to the effect of "I don't know what pisses me off more, people that read the bible and don't read Darwin or people that read Darwin and don't read the bible." Your suggestions are always nice, I enjoy your channel, thanks for posting and keep up the good work!
This was beyond profound.
Why The Bible rather than Homer, the Greek Tragedians, and Virgil? The latter were far more influential in terms of literary import. The Bible perhaps provided more thematic influences, but very few of the later great authors took The Bible as a literary model. If you want to understand Milton you need to read Virgil more than The Bible; if you want to understand Shakespeare you need to read Euripides (and Chaucer) more than The Bible.
There is no book more influential than the King James Bible.
I see no list in the video, won't bother looking for one. Anyway, counterpoint - read whatever the heck you like, not many people can (or should) drag through bible (old one super boring, maybe new one?), dante (super cryptic, need explanations of explanations) or dostoyevski (spelling?) Just read
Bertrand Russell: History of Western Philosophy, with this you get the history of our thought and culture without the lies and fairy tales.
Fairy tales are an important part of our thought and culture.
But then you don't get western philosophy. You get western philosophy through the eyes of Bertrand Russell, which is a different thing.
@@todorsamardzhiev144 If you were a philosopher, you might be able to see the flaw in your argument.
Bertrand Russell's History of Western Philosophy has a positivist bias and is not great on a number of periods, such as early Greek philosophy and medieval philosophy. I would read Anthony Kenny's history of philosophy instead.
Thanks
The rant about toxic masculinity are simply jealousy over other capable human's achievements that resonated beyond their generation and time. Something narcissists wish they could but cant due to their self indulgence
It is sadly much more than jealousy, it's about controlling a wider narrative to enable tyranny. Look at all Western society and compare how weak men's positions are, it has no other reason than to empower the elites through curtailing your natural power fulfillment process. Modern man replaced this process with substitute activities, the result is mass population decline in the Western world. We have been led like lambs to the slaughter and yet most choose to ignore the obvious. A sad reality really.
this said nothing about what men should read. the word choice should be mankind. canonical books should be read by mankind.
Is Bible worth reading for a non-believer?
Certainly, the King James version is one of the most beautiful books in English. Treat it as a work of fiction, with crap stories, but brilliant language.
Yes, and read it twice, because the first time is great, but the second time is even better!
The stories definitely are not "crap" @@agamemnonhatred
@@ryanthomas7119 Well, you say that... 😂
The Bible is an amalgam of different authors, philosophies (often contradictory), and WTF moments. On the one hand you get absurdities like the story of Lot and his family and Jesus killing a fig tree, and on the other you have exquisite poetry like the Song of Songs.
The importance of knowing the stories of the Bible, the Greek myths, or Buddha is that much of western literature makes allusions to them. If there is a reference to the Prodigal Son or Sisyphus the reader can instantly apply the lesson of the original story to the present one.
SAINTLY🎉🎉🎉
The Bible is a good start
#2 the lord of the rings
#3 everything Niccolo Machiavelli wrote
#4 the communist manifesto
#5 my struggle
That’s a good foundation if you ask me
I appreciate your recommendations Stalin!
He's not wrong, but what a horrible, convoluted explanation of an idea rendered much more cogently, succinctly, and powerfully by the likes of Mortimer Adler, Will Durant, and Harold Bloom. A lot got watered down in this attempted explanation of an otherwise very important idea.
Peterson is desperate to impress you with his vocabulary. He's quite often right, but he can take an unnecessarily long time to get to the point. As Disraeli said about Gladstone, he is "a sophistical rhetorician, inebriated with the exuberance of his own verbosity".
but a reader more interesting with the themes
The books speak.
The Rational Male - Rollo Tomassi is must have.
largely undiscovered work of genius - Stoner by John Williams.
it's gained popularity in recent years in certain online circles, but I'd guess that far less than 1% of American adults have even heard of it
It's a pretty mediocre novel, compared with the novels of his time. His contemporaries were Barth, Gass, Reed, Elkin. The disparity in quality is tremendous! It was deservedly forgotten, and only a turn to worshipping banal, minimalist prose could have turned him into the genius he's mistaken for.
Yeah it's a quite good book, kind of the story of every modern man in this century ;)
I tried... But felt not as great as people are saying. So i put it down.
One way to look at this is to see how those books express the philosophia perennis (even when they are not literally about philosophy).
Nice
Arthur Schopenhauer's The world as will and representation influenced Darwin, Freud, Dostojevski , Nietzsche,Einstein,Schrodinger, Wagner,Tolstoi. Reading it is essential for understanding of the world
toltoi is sociologist on his books. f*ck him
So many banalities in such a short amount of time.
That books exist in relationship to one another is not a "postmodernist" claim; it's a commonsensical saying of old that books are born of other books.
The bit about having a small staff to study what makes a canon is laughable in its smugness; that legwork has been done, it was done hundreds of years ago.
I can't tell if he's a coward or incurious to define the importance of "canonical" books in the amount of times they've been "quoted". That's a crass, materialistic, celebrity-like, capitalist, quantifiable criterion that leaves no leeway to an individual exploring on his own whatever his conscience's inclined to. It's to give up our own capacity to think and to surrender to the opinions of others. It means being a conformist whose references are the same as everyone else's. That's a path straight to dullness, sameness, and psitacism.
Ultimately Peterson is terrified of a changing world that doesn't have the cultural references of his childhood that he's come to value as the touchstone. Instead of encouraging viewers to be audacious and engage with the modern ideas and to take a risk on new books whose "value" hasn't yet calcified, he urges them to play it safe. What a boring man and what boring advice to anyone who truly wants to open his mind to new thoughts.
By the way, if we're going by number of citations as the value of a book, I'm dutybound to remind you all that Marx and Chomsky are among the two most quoted persons in academia. Strangely enough, though both more than fulfill Peterson's own criterion, books by both of them are absent from his list.
Read the banned Gnostic writings before you get into the canonical Bible. Context is absolutely everything, and the esoteric Gnostic perspective will give you the proper lens through which to read the Church approved materials that would otherwise be perplexing.
Well they were largely written after the canonical books so I don’t think they’re needed to understand the earlier works
@@Big_Steve11 That's what the Church would like you to believe.
The "early" church is the true church
@@Strive1974 Yes. The original Church of Satan.
@@freethinker79 But its true. Gnosticism was not fully developed until the late first century, early second century. Certain biblical writings do go against early forms of what transformed into gnosticism.
Watch Spiderman into the spiderverse 😊
real
hola, no me considero una persona virtuosa pero me gustaria serlo, busco hombres y mujeres para construir una verdadera amistad, desde argentina, un fraternal saludo
Y las mujeres no pueden leerlos?
Os empeñáis en hacer de Peterson algo que no es.
Men of culture, we meet here again.
We can know who we are 20% more. Not more than that
He won't mention Marx's Capital!
I suppose everyone has a 'Price'!
With everyone being subjected to be wage workers.
Yeah that’s an incompatible world view with the books mentioned.
Just came to see if any feminist have screamed to change title to include both genders😂😂😂
Doubt if JP has any woke followers.
I haven't read the bible but i dont reading it would have given me a better understanding of antony and cleopatra by more than 10%
only christian-based books? really? excluding classic period literature is INSANE
This is so ludicrous.
All books are derive from the dictionary. 🤣
Peterson's list is a little too narrow and parochial for the modern world. The canon for a globalized 21st century should include not only the Bible, but also the Tao Te Ching, the Quran, the Bhagavad Gita, not to mention the works of Shankara, Maimonides, Avicenna and Rumi, no name but a few.
Chances are slim that JP read them.
Chances are good that if you believe that you're thick.
Have you?
what? he 100% read them
The best fiction book is Bible
You mean the best non-fiction historical book?
@@ApexTheory no. The best fiction book.
Your statement about the bible is fiction.
@@krukrok5218Your comment is exactly the sort of smug foolishness a 15-yo boy would spout.
Jesus loves you bro please accept him as your Lord and savior you won’t regret it!
Agreed. The book of fiction known as the Bible has influenced innumerable works in the past several thousand years. It's all there. Man v man. Man v world. Man learns lesson. Man suffers loss. Man celebrates victory.
I believe the Bible is nonfiction
Proof that it's fiction because I've never seen it in that section?
My assumption of fiction@@mr.retrohale6673 is due in part to the way opposing religious people view their "works of god" comparatively to the Bible and Christian's view of others. Non believe the ridiculous narrative in the others. They all can't be true. Why would any be considered as Devine if all are not?
@@Scorpion75_ simple science my man. You can't make something out of nothing. You can go as far back as you want and someone had to create it
@@mr.retrohale6673 You can’t prove a negative. It’s like proving that mermaids don’t exist. I can’t show you proof that there isn’t a mermaid in the ocean. That doesn’t mean mermaids must exist. But scientifically a being that’s half human could not survive underwater. The Bible is full of impossible things. Whether they’re true is irrelevant. The lessons are what’s relevant and it’s that weedy debate that’s caused centuries of struggle.
Women are excluded ?
The reading of antiquated fiction doesn’t help you on the modern world. It’s just an ego flex for weak minds...
What a dumb comment.
Lol
that literally makes no sense. our world has been created and structured upon these 'antiquated fictions'? how ignorant can one be? I'm not saying that it's empirically true either (which does not matter entirely, the history of humanity's progression is what is to be known and for what reasons). your comment lacks depth.
Oh really? Read The Wanting Seed by Anthony Burgess and see what timeline we are at in that book! It’s also a canonical book in regards to Sodom and Gomorrah 😇
The modern world exists because of the antiquated world. It’s the foundation we live on. The modern world is not separate and one day our time will be antiquated as well.