Could Rapid Dragon Protect Taiwan From A HUGE Chinese Invasion Fleet? (WarGames 114) | DCS

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  • We simulate a fictional future where China sends an invasion force to occupy Taiwan. The only thing standing in the way is America's new Rapid Dragon weapon system. Will it be enough to stop the invasion fleet?
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  • @grimreapers
    @grimreapers  ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rapid Dragon Series:
    Rapid Dragon & MALD vs Russian Black Sea Fleet: th-cam.com/video/sHTGKG1cYec/w-d-xo.html
    Rapid Dragon vs IJN WWII Carrier Group: th-cam.com/video/QXONs2voDjE/w-d-xo.html
    Rapid Dragon vs Russian Black Sea Fleet: th-cam.com/video/rvUTl6xjxqY/w-d-xo.html
    Rapid Dragon vs Omaha Beach Defenses: th-cam.com/video/k4T1WWtVyYk/w-d-xo.html
    Rapid Dragon vs Chinese Invasion Fleet: th-cam.com/video/MQ1wrspnL7A/w-d-xo.html

    • @lightningwingdragon973
      @lightningwingdragon973 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have GOT to lower the game audio a bit, engines are always BLASTING my eardrums.

    • @rossg4788
      @rossg4788 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you run a scenario with C17 Rapid Dragon deployment? Maybe a flights of 4 each with departures from Guam, Japan and Hawaii?

    • @samuellowekey9271
      @samuellowekey9271 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Who are you guys kidding? The island is Cyprus, and the mainland is Israel, Lebanon, Syria and Jordan.

    • @RegCostello
      @RegCostello ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you please answer the question of why you are showing Cyprus and the eastern Mediterranean? Have I missed something?

    • @yumdoot007
      @yumdoot007 ปีที่แล้ว

      why chinese sams were not killing larasm?

  • @shtorm2616
    @shtorm2616 ปีที่แล้ว +246

    Small correction: The C-130 can carry 12 missiles each, not 8. The C-17 meanwhile can carry a staggering 45 missiles.

    • @scruboak17
      @scruboak17 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      One pallet for C-130 is 6 missiles and it can carry 2 pallets. C-17 is 9 per pallet and can carry 5 pallets.

    • @st3althyone
      @st3althyone ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@scruboak17Goddamn, that will be a massive game-changer in any battle.

    • @s4ss.m8
      @s4ss.m8 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@st3althyone in perspective. 4 C17s can basically decimate the entire Chinese navy

    • @st3althyone
      @st3althyone ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@s4ss.m8 Yeah, I’d love to see that!

    • @benahaus
      @benahaus ปีที่แล้ว +6

      But what's the cost of the platform? Losing a C-130 has a lot different than losing a c17

  • @Sardaukar240888
    @Sardaukar240888 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    29:40 not only did that awacs dodge the two missiles, it didn't get gunned. Give that pilot a raise!

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Agree

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@grimreapers lol Yo Cap that's why The Taiwanese are keeping their F-16V's underground ;)
      Check it out-- th-cam.com/video/ERLdBDvvB0w/w-d-xo.html
      Lmao why does this keep getting taken down....??

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@grimreapers Yo Cap PLEASE check out this vid about NSM and just as interesting, its launch platform! Lol essentially a drone truck with a NSM on the back! Pretty damn cool I personally think! It'd be absolutely EPIC if you guys could create a Mod of this-- th-cam.com/video/WJFP7xZdeXQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yo my bad for using your post to bother Cap with my Vids I'm trying to get em to watch lol however every time I posted them they were taken down...😅✌

    • @morganjohnson539
      @morganjohnson539 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd credit the overall team in the plane. Because they had excellent situational awareness, high-powered jammers and fortunately a skilled crew on the flight deck.

  • @HuxleysShaggyDog
    @HuxleysShaggyDog ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I've played too much cold waters.
    I'm mentally going through what I'd do with a Sea Wolf, a steady supply of strong coffee for my crew, and a permissive ROE.

    • @mdb831
      @mdb831 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      8 Tubes of death.

    • @feliscorax
      @feliscorax ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Captain of USN Seawolf: “Dear China, your navy has so many pretty ships. It’d be a damned shame if … something were to happen to them.”

  • @ryanpayne7707
    @ryanpayne7707 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Another thing to consider is that when an AShM hits a ship, a lot of people can die. So even if the ship is still operational, there's a very good chance that a sizable portion of the troops onboard are no longer fit to fight.

  • @VimyScout
    @VimyScout ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Time for a LRASM-Gasm👍

  • @MG_Steve
    @MG_Steve ปีที่แล้ว +182

    One thing you can't model of course is the likely US Submarines that would be lurking in the area and they'd definitely go after or at the very least distract the naval fleet.

    • @92HazelMocha
      @92HazelMocha ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Or the Chinese anti-sumbarine platforms that would 100% be waiting for them to get involved.

    • @antoniramponi5808
      @antoniramponi5808 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      How effective can they be in a sea with a depth of 70 metres and lots of Chinese anti submarine vessels available. They have so many that they could basically cordon of both sides of the strait completely

    • @matthewkologi6833
      @matthewkologi6833 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      There would be at least one carrier task force in the area. Also, destroyers routinely patrol the area from Yokosuka, with refueling in Okinawa.

    • @The_Brozilla
      @The_Brozilla ปีที่แล้ว +4

      US subs would be at a disadvantage in this situation since they’re all nukes and not diesel electrics. Much easier for China’s ASW to find.

    • @trazyntheinfinite9895
      @trazyntheinfinite9895 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@The_Brozilla easy he said.
      I say one thing: loitering torpedo munitions.
      The subs will never be where the killing is.

  • @wolfgangamadeus1246
    @wolfgangamadeus1246 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Sweating bullets when Cap was trying to push those C-130s to 10 thousand feet!

  • @attilathenun
    @attilathenun ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Seems odd that the 256 Patriot shots didn’t do more.

    • @bagelmaster2498
      @bagelmaster2498 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      yea i feel like 256 shots would do more than just 15 jets

    • @ericdelevinquiere9902
      @ericdelevinquiere9902 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bagelmaster2498 Old technology, probably less in reality. China is exponentially threatening for sure. Updating is the key here! it’s a business!

    • @Davros-vi4qg
      @Davros-vi4qg ปีที่แล้ว +5

      DCS AI are really rubbish at designating and sequencing launches to be effective and efficient.

    • @TheStormpilgrim
      @TheStormpilgrim ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Patriots seem to have a case of premature launch.

    • @attilathenun
      @attilathenun ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jdo8405 I think people forget that most modern SAMs are mobile and Taiwan has invested very substantially in their survivability, and will likely hold some back in reserve, but yes, by the time China launches its amphibious assault it is likely that Taiwan would be entirely depleted of aircraft’s and long range air defenses.
      However, I think this scenario here is one where China launches the amphibious landing right after initial missile waves, potentially within hours of first strike, rather than having had time to systematically eliminate all air defenses, which would take at least a week even by pessimistic estimates by the US. In this case Taiwan would still be able to mount a certain level of response to contest for air superiority.

  • @SirJaxxSirJaxx
    @SirJaxxSirJaxx ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Excellent!!! While 4 C-130's is a decent start, what about a full squadron of Rapid Dragon Cargo planes engaging from Okinawa? Would they have to deploy from a higher altitude to cover the distance?

    • @attilathenun
      @attilathenun ปีที่แล้ว +14

      A landing fleet will take between 6-8 hours to cross the strait, longer for the slower vessels. More than enough time for planes from Okinawa to arrive within striking distance.

    • @markonw6661
      @markonw6661 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My thought is this is a “Taiwan is proxy” scenario, the planes and missiles were purchased under lend/lease with local pilots and must launch locally.
      …you know, to avoid the whole h-bomb apocalypse over really good silicon fabs.

    • @anotheralpharius2056
      @anotheralpharius2056 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@markonw6661 you see the missiles were purchased, but there was an unfortunate accident in the cargo planes causing all of the missiles to be jettisoned

    • @markonw6661
      @markonw6661 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@anotheralpharius2056 Rapid Dragon goes out like any other cargo jettison, the beauty of it, all the brains and control are hosted on the crate.
      “The crew thought they were dropping water bottles, mixup back at base”…I love it.

    • @SirJaxxSirJaxx
      @SirJaxxSirJaxx ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@markonw6661 I am happy to see the Rapid Dragon Missile System is up & running in the game now as there is now a slew of targets that can be attacked now. Especially if Radar suppressing aircraft are used ahead of the attack to not only blind SAM sites, but all enemy aircraft and surface assets. Plus I am sure these missiles can be nuclear tipped for attacking Ports and Bases, and other military installations. What would it take to attack Moscow using the Rapid Dragon Missile System?

  • @ChristopherJMason-yk7qd
    @ChristopherJMason-yk7qd ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I appreciated Cap's comments about volunteering to work with children and how he picks up colds etc. from them. As a teacher of nearly 40 years, I know how that is. Teachers have perpetual colds for the first three school years. If the last that long, they get a degree of immunity. Kudos, Cap, for working with the children! Take care of yourself, though. Good luck!

    • @juliusfucik4011
      @juliusfucik4011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Parents too. I remember when my kids where

  • @stug77
    @stug77 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Considering the range of the LRASM/JASSM, it would make sense for Taiwan to have ground launched versions. A nice little slingshot should be enough to get them airborne.

    • @hughmungus2760
      @hughmungus2760 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Realistically they wouldn't get them until the technology is well and truely obsolete because of the amount of chinese spies on the island.
      Sensative technology is almost never sold to taiwan exact out of fear of espionage.

    • @TraditionalAnglican
      @TraditionalAnglican ปีที่แล้ว

      And there is a ground launched version of LRASM that we could position during the run up to hostilities.

    • @hughmungus2760
      @hughmungus2760 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TraditionalAnglican unless they were placed on taiwan directly they wouldn't have the range, and if they were on taiwan, they'd be prime targets for bombardment at the start.

    • @brandonlevy8680
      @brandonlevy8680 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They will be getting the Typhoon weapon system. Not stealth but it will allow Taiwan to be able to strike back at ships or VERY far into the interior of, China. Mobile Tomahawk (Block-5) Launchers. The same system can also launch SM-6 missiles for anti-air. They also have a land based mobile remote NSM launcher that is being fielded by the USMC which will undoubtedly get "lent" to, Taiwan. Taiwan's air defense and ship/shore striking abilities are being rapidly advanced.

  • @xenaguy01
    @xenaguy01 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    _"I wouldn't want to be in a F-16 right now."_
    Says the guy flying a C-130 into the furball.
    😄😆😅😂🤣

  • @inserthandleherelol
    @inserthandleherelol ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I guarntee thar one random chinese general took notes from this video, very interesting tho.

  • @forMacguyver
    @forMacguyver ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Thank you , thank you , thank you ! I've been hoping you'd do this video ! Palletised weapons on literally hundreds of possible delivery platforms. Every cargo plane loaded with missiles to strike from beyond anti-air range . Game changer.

    • @JD-sb4ss
      @JD-sb4ss ปีที่แล้ว

      Yay they did rapid dragon! I’ve been wanting someone to sim this considering all the hype

    • @stupidburp
      @stupidburp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Question is how many will be available at the time in the area? Need large orders now if it is going to be a realistic deterrent.

    • @hf117j
      @hf117j ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Imagine a C5 Galaxy deploying Rapid Dragon

    • @st3althyone
      @st3althyone ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hf117jNow that would be a sight to behold!

    • @gofoats
      @gofoats 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Question is...how many are already in theater that nobody knows about because the dumb snitches that got caught were fed useless information?@@stupidburp

  • @geekpoet7443
    @geekpoet7443 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rapid dragon is very impressive. A C-17 can launch up to 45 missiles. I had no idea what was possible.

  • @hughmungus2760
    @hughmungus2760 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still think LRASMs are totally unrealistic, not even an attempt to intercept with missiles? Even though planes can shoot them down at >20 miles? What gives?

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The beauty of stealth missiles?

  • @leobrooks3883
    @leobrooks3883 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another brilliant job Cap; great fun watching, thanks also to the entire GR team!
    Idea: multi player lorasm de -confliction problem might be partly solved by sending launch aircraft to different release points to create a sort of pincer movement scenario... maybe worth a test?

  • @JR-ii4lq
    @JR-ii4lq ปีที่แล้ว +2

    EPIC work rate Cap and GRs! Superb effort!!

  • @wonlop469
    @wonlop469 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YESSSSSSSSS!!! Awesome I was waiting for this Cap! Perfect! Magnifico! And thank you!

  • @GuyRobinson-es1oo
    @GuyRobinson-es1oo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just love your play by play. Plan to watch all your stuff

  • @donscheid97
    @donscheid97 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rapid Dragon is basically a Force Multiplier, giving the US additional weapons launchers without the cost of more bombers (nor the full combat capabilities of bombers).

  • @dougmuti3850
    @dougmuti3850 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rapid Dragon is quite the interesting weapons deployment system. Is like a fleet in a box!

  • @TheStormpilgrim
    @TheStormpilgrim ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Taiwan: "We don't know how many Chinese it'll take to kick our asses...but we know how many they're gonna use."

  • @akronity3827
    @akronity3827 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    On the topic of rtb issues for ai: I found that they return to the closest allied or neutral base. So as long as there are neutral bases on either china or taiwan, OPFOR is going to try to rtb there even if that means going into the lions den

    • @conmcgrath7174
      @conmcgrath7174 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shrewd observation.
      Pax

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  ปีที่แล้ว

      Well that's just stupid isn't it?

  • @randalljones4370
    @randalljones4370 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Timely !!!
    Now, can we get a Rapid Dragon suspended under a giant balloon? Maybe multiple balloons.
    Asking for a friend.

    • @HuyLe-qc8jc
      @HuyLe-qc8jc ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. Attach the Rapid Dragon to the balloon from the other video and fly them at 100,000 ft. Use a squadron of balloons to attack the fleet.

  • @hanrockabrand95
    @hanrockabrand95 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is anyone else singing "Rapid Dragon" in their head to the tune of Rockin' Robin?

    • @robjohnson5872
      @robjohnson5872 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, but now I am - thanks...

  • @DJSockmonkeyMusic
    @DJSockmonkeyMusic 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I gotta say, its always a good day when the Herc gets to fly. Also, that missle count just before the Herc launch, omg. That is terrifying.

  • @kenc9236
    @kenc9236 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another awesome video. Good job.

  • @jamison884
    @jamison884 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you Cap, awesome development added to the mix. The key force multiplier for the Rapid Dragon platform is the rumor (coming from a defense industry think-tank) that the JASSM (which is the base cruise missile used to design LRASM) has the necessary hardware/technology to receive what is effectively a firmware/software patch to its programming in order to enable anti-ship capabilities. The JASSM has been (and will continue to be per current budgets) manufactured in much greater numbers than LRASM, with the current stockpike estimated at around 2,000 and the stated procurement goal of 10,000 by the time full-rate production ends and these are all on top of LRASM manufacturing. So taking the very effective JASSM (and its longer range and enhanced ER/XR variants) and adding the capability to target any static/mobile target on the ground or at sea is the real game changer.
    This development means the defending forces in this scenario would very likely be able to strike with significantly more anti-ship missiles during such an operation. I also believe they would supplement the force as needed by adding in B-1B/B-2/B-52 bombers with JASSM/LRASM onboard (the B-1B can carry 24, the B-2 is 16, and the B-52 is 20). As far as target deconfliction, I think we have to constantly take a step back and directly compare DCS to the real world.
    For example, in the DCS singleplayer run at the end, the deconfliction wasn't that bad by DCS standards. Now, take those results which weren't too bad, and consider the fact DCS was never programmed with the intent of adding a Rapid Dragon type weapons platform or even advanced anti-ship cruise missiles and the simple fact this is a consumer-level military sim. Now take into consideration the hundreds of millions involved in developing the JASSM/LRASM/Rapid Dragon and the fact one of their primary goals is accurate target identification and deconfliction. Another way to think about the topic is to consider the efforts by DCS developers and the GR efforts to add capability to DCS. Now imagine what you could do with a team of hundreds of people and a virtually unlimited budget all with the goal and perfecting the results of JASSM/LRASM attacks. I'm betting all of those resources resulted in a highly effective targetting logic that will essentially result in near-perfection, which I would define as hitting the exact ship that was targetted, with the specific amount of missiles desired, and hitting the specific areas of the ship that are most advantageous.

  • @dylanst3802
    @dylanst3802 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve been waiting for an operation rapid dragon video😊

  • @ZacLowing
    @ZacLowing ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dropping the rapid dragon with a minute between C-130's might give them time to find fresh targets.

  • @Lucky-hi8jj
    @Lucky-hi8jj ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I see a gr video, i click

  • @strambino1
    @strambino1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t know how are you guys made a rapid dragon mod but this is the coolest thing ever!!!

  • @Pablo668
    @Pablo668 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good vid. I think strategically all you have to do is damage the invasion fleet enough to make proceeding with their mission untenable. More than just de-confliction I'd think that they would primarily target the landing ships and anyhting else carrying troops/weapons/supplies.

  • @christopherjohnson529
    @christopherjohnson529 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cap - to deal with the deconfliction problem, try having the C-130s take different directions on takeoff. You all dropped in a tight bunch. If after takeoff, each C-130 took a different vector, that would spread out the LRASMs over a wider front, less likely they'll all focus on the same few ships.

  • @DownsizedEnchantment
    @DownsizedEnchantment ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the battle space of only 100 nautical miles , a fleet is sitting duck for concentration of submarine , surface and airborne fires.

  • @jamison884
    @jamison884 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As far as video ideas, I'd like to see a huge US vs. China ~2025 timeframe naval battle. Essentially it would be a huge Chinese fleet - perhaps two carriers and maybe even more than the two sets of standard escort ships (maybe 10-12 destroyers, some frigates). Maybe someone can think of a good story, or maybe it was perceived as a joint Chinese CSG training mission to train-up the crews on the newly established strike-group. But, unexpectedly, they make a quick turn just a few hundred miles away from a US CSG on standard patrol in the South China Sea and catch the US CSG in a vulnerable position, outnumbered and nowhere to run or get reinforced by additional ships in time.
    So, what option does the US have to help this vulnerable CSG under attack? A combination of some Rapid Dragon pallets from Tokyo/Guam and perhaps some long-range bombers with LRASM flying in to the rescue. It would have to be tuned as far as balancing goes, but I'd like to see if Rapid Dragon/LRASM can be added to the mix in an emergency to save the US CSG. Thanks Cap!

    • @stupidburp
      @stupidburp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Multiple B-1B with LRASM and JASSM from Guam striking the PLA fleets and outposts then Australian fleets and aircraft arrive to help.

    • @sulyokpeter3941
      @sulyokpeter3941 ปีที่แล้ว

      There will be a huge naval battle in the next coming weeks between UK and USA vs Russia and China. GR is waiting for the British fleet modernisation now. It should be done around next week. (What I mean "modernisation"? They dont have the proper Type 45 Destroyers and basically the whole British Navy fleet, and now a modder decided to model and make the 2025 British Navy fleet for them in the game. That means Type 26 Frigates, Type 23 Frigates, Type 45 Destroyers with their proper missiles and etc. They have a Type 45 Destroyer in the game now, which is not the proper one. Its just a remodeled old Alreigh Burke Destroyer mod basically, with only SM-2s)

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      a chinese csg full fleet against an prepared standard us csg they could overwhelem the amrican with asm missles the rapid dragon and f35 reinforcement would be more of a avenge mission rather then a rescue mission they wouldet make it in time if the chinese with there 12+ destroyer and many more 54a corvette and csg plane were to lunch all of there asm missles a standard peace time us navy csg normaly consisting of 2-3 burke class destroyer 1-2 tico class cruiser and 1 Virginia-class submarine they would not be able to defend the carrier against such a saturationn attack no matter how good aegis is you can only shoot 1 missle down at a time.

  • @Montalva
    @Montalva ปีที่แล้ว +3

    its a bit unrealistic, the first thing China would do is take all the runways out. Just like in real life.

    • @Utubesuperstar
      @Utubesuperstar ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And Taiwan has more than 30 planes they accounted for the runways and air force destruction by only having 30 fighters

    • @Montalva
      @Montalva ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Utubesuperstar ah i missed that.

  • @MWSin1
    @MWSin1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hadn't heard of the Rapid Dragon until now. So I guess they just need to make BVRAAM bus variant, so the C-130 can finally replace everything ever.

  • @DirtyHairy1
    @DirtyHairy1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ohh I wanted to see them come out of the boxes

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not animated yet otherwise I would show. Currently just spawns missiles in below plane.

  • @benahaus
    @benahaus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New NATO airbase in Cincu Romania should house a fleet of these bad boys for the Black Sea Orc fleet

  • @willielinks3865
    @willielinks3865 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Would be interesting to see this fleet vs a more realistic approach with the land based harpoons that Taiwan is currently in the process of buying. Great video as always!

    • @gumballfan1232
      @gumballfan1232 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Taiwan also has a large stockpile of their own domestically made anti-ship missiles (Hsiung Feng II & III).

    • @Blank27
      @Blank27 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe they already have some harpoons.. but they're just in the process of buying more. I do agree though, it would have been interesting to see a couple dozen harpoons being shot on a time attack w/ the LRASM

    • @hallmobility
      @hallmobility ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gumballfan1232 Those are the ones to count on. Cho Bai Dung has slow-walked those huge arms purchases Taiwan made in 2019 with President Trump. They don't get the Harpoons until 2028. They don't get the M1A2 tanks until 2025. Xi didn't pay Cho over $50 Mil for nothing.

    • @slslbbn4096
      @slslbbn4096 ปีที่แล้ว

      China already prepared a few cargo ships loaded with tonnes of nuclear waste from their reactors. They are deployed near US bases in Japan and South Korea and at potential US landing sites/resupply routes in Taiwan.
      In the prelude to any invasion, they will declare a civilian ship emergency with radioactive waste spewing from these ships, blocking off any American intervention.
      Then the invasion will proceed as planned.
      Besides, the US also has already demonstrated itself to be unable to handle any biochemical weapon with it's botched COVID response. You can be the Chinese and Russians have already weaponized various types of viruses to paralyze and decimate US population centers if they intervene in China or the Russian mainland.

  • @RedneckRapture
    @RedneckRapture ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So, quick question, why did you use C-130's instead of C-17's, which can carry double the pallets of the 130?

    • @TraditionalAnglican
      @TraditionalAnglican ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t think there are C-17’s positioned in Taiwan, but there would be C-17’s, B-1’s, B-2’s, F-22’s etc. inbound from Japan, South Korea, Philippines, Guam (?), etc..

    • @nekopop8159
      @nekopop8159 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TraditionalAnglican Could be, I don’t know if some of the planes are stationed there, but the US might send some of those planes over, especially the F-22s.

  • @TraditionalAnglican
    @TraditionalAnglican ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have two questions - Wouldn’t American forces be already on site in response to increasing tensions?!? And wouldn’t those forces include 2 to 4 Virginia Class SSNs?!?

  • @scottlink183
    @scottlink183 ปีที่แล้ว

    Entertaining! Thanks.

  • @robertwolfe2971
    @robertwolfe2971 ปีที่แล้ว

    One Trident missle would clear that straight real quick.

  • @Ianmundo
    @Ianmundo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Taiwan is crazy if they aren’t trying everything to buy the Israeli Iron Dome, David’s Sling and Arrow systems

  • @mshahmirraza
    @mshahmirraza ปีที่แล้ว +52

    So apprently JASSM is invincible since I haven't seen one instance where it got intercepted even at close range. Curious to know if US Warships can intercept them.

    • @jtom9086
      @jtom9086 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah me too i wonder even the US warships can intercept JASSM in Grim Reaper’s DCS simulation LOL . I think it is too overpowered , as far as i know ,not even a single JASSM was ever intercepted by chinese Fleet SAM network in his DCS simulation :3

    • @hughmungus2760
      @hughmungus2760 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      theres something mathematically bugged with LRASMs we know planes have no issue shooting them down at 20 or so miles, We know chinese ships have no issue shooting down planes with a RCS similar to them at 20 miles, so why are they not engaging?

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      JASSM is not same thing as LRASM(look similar). Most get shot down in this battle: th-cam.com/video/KMwYjJghQiA/w-d-xo.html

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@hughmungus2760 lol you guys are forgetting about the altitude at which they fly at

    • @chuckfarley4130
      @chuckfarley4130 ปีที่แล้ว

      The US is lacking in technology.
      Mostly because it has spent little money on defense, and because it has really bad universities. lolz you dork

  • @RoscoeDaMule
    @RoscoeDaMule ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what i been wating for for months n months

  • @JjackVideo
    @JjackVideo ปีที่แล้ว

    The single player result seems pretty reasonable compared to my expectations

  • @thesandwichfreak3780
    @thesandwichfreak3780 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super Cap, try sending them out in waves; such as 1st sending group 1, three minutes later sending group two, three minutes later sending group 3, and so on.

  • @4ik4irik43
    @4ik4irik43 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Most likely, the Chinese would have hit with operational-tactical ballistic missiles based on ground-based complexes and cruise missiles at airfields where Taiwanese aviation is based (just like the Russians did in the early days of the attack on Ukraine, well, when they fought terrorists in Chechnya ), then they would have suppressed air defense and would have already acted with aviation or, with the help of aviation, suppressed air defense or together with ground systems and the fleet!

  • @alexcamilleri2562
    @alexcamilleri2562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hmmm, I don’t remember Taiwan looking like that

  • @trentvlak
    @trentvlak ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how you gained a LRASM from nowhere at 21:20

  • @michaelmoorrees3585
    @michaelmoorrees3585 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grim Reapers are playing with Rapid Dragon ! Beautiful !

  • @urielmanzone1772
    @urielmanzone1772 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Irl the number of missiles would probably be 10x this one, plus the Hercules can load 12 missiles each not 8

  • @MattyJ55046
    @MattyJ55046 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They would have complete air dominance before they sent ships across the street.

    • @bad_covfefe
      @bad_covfefe ปีที่แล้ว

      They have no time for that. If they do not begin the invasion as quickly as possible, the USN will arrive to stop it.

    • @AmirShafeek
      @AmirShafeek 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bad_covfefeit would not take China a full 24 hours to gain control over the straight I'm sorry

    • @AmirShafeek
      @AmirShafeek 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And why would they need full co trolnof the airspace they have ships with Sam's aswell as and based Sam's

  • @Taoweiji
    @Taoweiji ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Run a multiplayer scenario from the point in the single player, where multiple Chinese ships were hit. THEN, have the US fleet show up in combat range at a few minutes later. Also, maybe spread the C130s out in a fan shape. That could help with the deconfliction of the LRASMs.

  • @joegoveia6499
    @joegoveia6499 ปีที่แล้ว

    @14:26 that probably had a different meaning than I heard in my head.

  • @googacct
    @googacct ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice to see a simulation of this. I would think for this type of scenario there would be cargo planes carrying Rapid Dragon from Japan, Guam, Hawaii and maybe even the continental US. So instead of 32 missles striking, it might be more like 100-200 missiles. As long as they could all arrive on target at the same time, the antimissle defenses should be overwhelmed.

    • @Davros-vi4qg
      @Davros-vi4qg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Plus B52, B1 and B2s. Chucking lords knows what into the theatre. I would not wanna be a Chinese Marine.

    • @stupidburp
      @stupidburp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      B-2 and B-52 will probably be on nuke standby alert duty. B-1B will be the primary quick reaction bombers for long range conventional missile strikes. C-130J with Rapid Dragon could provide critical additional missile volume if available. The numbers of available palletized missiles will be the question, depends on how much is spent and produced soon.

    • @conmcgrath7174
      @conmcgrath7174 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stupidburp Yeah for sure, if you don't have them you can't use them. There are a number of factors ignored in this 'scenario' but that is mostly because of the limits of the 'game'.
      Grim Reapears can only do so much with the 'package' but I do enjoy the honesty and Cap's enthuaistic commentary.
      Pax dude.

    • @hughmungus2760
      @hughmungus2760 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol. there are like 400 LRASM in existance right now. You're firing of half the entire inventory in one salvo.

    • @rossjohanson8115
      @rossjohanson8115 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hughmungus2760 more like 2,000 missiles ... JASSM v LRASM is firmware. See
      @jamison884 comment below

  • @julienrocher1
    @julienrocher1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There would definitely be follow up Rapid Dragon waves from Philippines and Okinawa.

  • @PvtPartzz
    @PvtPartzz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have the Grim Reapers ever done a scenario where they’re ordered to defend vulnerable aircraft like these C-130’s or similar from incoming missiles-be they air launched and/or surface launched?
    I’ve always been curious how effective a force would be in shooting down incoming missiles meant for other targets. It’s possible but how likely is it to be successful?
    Also, has there ever been a project to create an airborne CWIS? Working on an AWACS has always seemed like an extremely dangerous proposition considering the limited defenses the aircraft itself has.

  • @martindice5424
    @martindice5424 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Should have been targeting the logistics guys. LTS and LSVs.
    Cruisers and destroyers can’t land and supply ground forces.
    Thoroughly enjoyed it !
    These presentations are fascinating and entertaining.
    Jolly good show chaps!

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      exactly the supply and landing ships if they were hit the invasio would be stop cold.

  • @Wilko601st
    @Wilko601st ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how strange the results in single ver multi. Yet another Quality video that has made my poop day that much better thnaks GR your are amazing

  • @timbaskett6299
    @timbaskett6299 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Before I watch this, I hope I get to see an F-16V vs. A J-10 dogfight (a backwards F-16) 😄 !!

  • @iangoddard8679
    @iangoddard8679 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cap needs a Honey and Lemon

  • @jamses23
    @jamses23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh man! Gonna be a good one!

  • @TP-ie3hj
    @TP-ie3hj ปีที่แล้ว

    I come for the coolest looking video game footage, I stay to read the comments that talk about how "real life it is" DCS is pretty awesome....perhaps one day it will have the ability to bring in the subs, the missile strikes that would surely hit every air base before the fleets moved etc. Videos are great and the comments are always fun thanks....
    I watched the series invasion of Taiwan...hard to keep track of the videos so gotta be hard to create. They were well done

  • @technoch33s3c4k3
    @technoch33s3c4k3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If this happens now I want that time machine.

  • @budatrox9171
    @budatrox9171 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got an idea for a match up! The world against alien invasion!

  • @DavidLucas-yj6jj
    @DavidLucas-yj6jj ปีที่แล้ว +1

    C17’s out of Guam would be launched and would bring the hurt. The number of LRSM’s out of C17 is much higher and would not need to launch from Taiwan.

  • @MrKramersmash
    @MrKramersmash ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome!

  • @jpsmusicforthemood5197
    @jpsmusicforthemood5197 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sorry if someone already suggested this below, but would it be possible (and would it help) if the C-130s "fired" in a bit of a staggered or offset manner? Meaning 1 fires and a few minutes after the 2nd fires and so on until all have fired. Maybe with larger spacing between "LRASM" waves they could/would de-conflict better. I realize there is not a lot of time from take-off to launch. One other thought, what if the C-130s were able to attack from slightly different angles? I enjoy ALL of your videos! Keep up the awesome work!

  • @bumponalog7164
    @bumponalog7164 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the Chinese fleet should have a fighter escort with a awacs. It wouldn't make sense to leave your most valuable assets completely reliant on ship based sensors. Slow low flying cruise missiles are best defended with airborne assets.

  • @carlosgarcia9497
    @carlosgarcia9497 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fact that our sexy new HAWC program is now complete & operational will now also factor into Chinese thinking if this were IRL.

  • @rudik5496
    @rudik5496 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d say the single player result would stop an invasion: the invading fleet would think that they’re likely to get more fire when they come closer to land (or subs).

  • @lambdacalculus8316
    @lambdacalculus8316 ปีที่แล้ว

    Without an invasion fleet, winning the air war leads to nothing.

  • @syverian1
    @syverian1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonder what would happen if one or two hercs launched from further north and dragons came in on multiple fronts.

  • @chadrushing4685
    @chadrushing4685 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The real test would be when the Chinese get to within a mile of shore and a couple hundred hardened artillery open up :P

    • @hughmungus2760
      @hughmungus2760 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Landing ships typically deploy their payload of amphib tanks/ifvs a dozen miles away from shore

  • @johnciall
    @johnciall ปีที่แล้ว +3

    so given the announcments from the last few days how well could typhoons equipped with meteors & storm shadows do at taking out the kerch bridge?

    • @stupidburp
      @stupidburp ปีที่แล้ว

      Approach vector would be difficult without clearing some SAM sites first.

    • @johnciall
      @johnciall ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stupidburp Naturally, but assuming they get the export version it's got 130Nm range so in theory you can dip into a s400 sam, Yeet & get out before thier missiles get on target

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting.

  • @user-pt8og3ls5x
    @user-pt8og3ls5x ปีที่แล้ว +3

    War is the most complex act of human beings.
    You guys need a hostile commander to bargain over the premise of the battle, such as when, where, the numbers and weapons on both sides, and so on. After agreeing on the premise of the battle, you each command your own army to fight against each other. By this way the script won't go too ridiculous.
    Otherwise you guys are just fight an imaginary war. Sure, it's fun that way, but it can be even more fun.

  • @myprivatewar
    @myprivatewar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    those pl15's ain't no joke

  • @erichardy9788
    @erichardy9788 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if you launch Rapid Dragon from diffrent angles of attack might they target more ships? 4 flights on diffrent headings and diffrent dropp hightsa

  • @tobyw9573
    @tobyw9573 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, great taxi video quality!

  • @joshdoyle2503
    @joshdoyle2503 ปีที่แล้ว

    April 24th is my birthday and I happened to be obsessed with this scenario! 😂

  • @henrygibson9613
    @henrygibson9613 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! Please now model day 3!

  • @SirJaxxSirJaxx
    @SirJaxxSirJaxx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Take out the Kirsch bridge now using the Rapid Dragon missile system.

  • @S1lv3r4do
    @S1lv3r4do ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love what you're doing CAP!
    Surely, the US wouldn't wait for the "Fleet" to arrive to mount a defense against the Chinese landing in Taiwan. The immediate launch of cruise missiles from nuc attack subs on-station in the western pacific and South China Sea along with the immediate launch of B-52s, B-1s, and B-2s all carrying a full loadout of LRASMs from continental US and Pacific bases would seem like an appropriate response to a surprise attack by the Chinese on Taiwan. Probably would require multiple war games to cover all this activity w/o crashing the servers.

  • @valuedhumanoid6574
    @valuedhumanoid6574 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Suh Weeeet. I never even knew the Rapid Dragon was a thing. Another knowledge expanding video from the boss's of sexy aerioplanes. Love every minute!

    • @SlavicCelery
      @SlavicCelery ปีที่แล้ว

      Fun facts, during the Rapid Dragon development, there was also an effort to change over Boeing 747's to have cruise missile launching capacity. They would have had a slightly different launching system. They wouldn't be able to drop off the entire crate system like C-130s are able too.

  • @jimphillippi616
    @jimphillippi616 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do this again, this time with 20 Gobemaster IIIs on Okinawa - each armed with 4 rapid dragon pallets.

  • @21Walls
    @21Walls ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Grim only dropped one of his pallets judging by the external camera view?

  • @cannon3267
    @cannon3267 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    second wave a flight of B-52s launching cruise/harpoons from clark air field in the Phillipeans??

  • @KWRapple
    @KWRapple ปีที่แล้ว

    when i get a better comp i really want to play this

  • @fiftycal1
    @fiftycal1 ปีที่แล้ว

    One or two Virginia Class Subs - silently stalking the Chinese Surface Fleet - equipped with MK-48 CBASS and Cruise Missiles…

  • @Ishawn.Ramaaj
    @Ishawn.Ramaaj ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i used to live in virginia near the NAS Oceana navy base and i would love to see some type of war games involving that base. By looking online there seems so be about 250 F/A-18 super hornets and i was lucky enough to get a tour of the base and hangers from my friend an F-18 pilot. Also with the navy ships stationed in port in that area and the Langley air force have with 5th gen, it would be cool to see russia attempt an attack and see THE BLOB of F/A-18s all scrambled.

  • @yaelschlichting9601
    @yaelschlichting9601 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is just one problem: The map shows Cyprus, a beautiful island in the eastern Mediterranean and parts of Lebanon, Syria and Israel.
    I guess you cannot explain me, what the piece of land above Cyprus is.

  • @everypitchcounts4875
    @everypitchcounts4875 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What if Taiwan used naval mines to slow down the landing ships

    • @stupidburp
      @stupidburp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No doubt they will have some but the PLAN will also have numerous auxiliary vessels available to run the gauntlet and clear some mines. This is probably part of the purpose of their state owned stout fishing fleet that doesn’t do any fishing.

  • @adp4328
    @adp4328 ปีที่แล้ว

    The comments I see missing is about the first wave knocking out the runway preventing fighters and Hercs from taking off. This is the Taiwan version of the Alamo.

  • @alaskanmooseman5975
    @alaskanmooseman5975 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder why DCS hasn't modeled China and Taiwan coast yet?