Ben Bikman is one of the kindest men I know. He was transformative in helping myself and my cousin eventually fulfill our dream of going to medical school. He always was a mentor and a lifter. He is empathetic and kind. I also know he is smart! But, more important this guy is just an overall "good dude." Proud to see him doing great things and then I research brown fat for help in my histology course he is the #2 hit on youtube. Love it. I really love it.
YES! Your comments give just more proof ( as if we needed it😋) of what so many of us have already sensed in this fine Professor and Scientist! Such a bright, GOOD, lovely man-I wish we could clone him! 🥳🥰👍
i rarely comment but i couldn't resist acknowledging bikman's ability to express his ideas in such precise, concise, exact but easy to grasp way. good on him.
I'm not questioning none of the guys here, but I'd like to understand... I used to eat sweet cookies EVERY SINGLE DAY -not exaggerating: every morning and afternoon. Cookies in my country though are more dry, they have a higher CH content than fat content unlike in the States, and more saturated fats than non-saturated, that is, more buttery and less oily. My triglicerydes were always at optimum levels and so were all my health indicators from comprehensive blood tests. Being in a more than amazing shape, a depression got me to lose a bit of weight and then when I recovered it, it looked a bit different than before so I wanted to get back to normal. So, for a long time now, for about a year, I have been reducing wheat, added sugars and saturated fats to the maximum recommended daily, increased my uptake of "healthy" fats and adjusting overall fats, CH and protein to those ideally recommended, both by my nutritionist and online serious nutrition information from Harvard and such. I also tried intermittent fasting for some months. All other things equal, I AM NOW FATTER THAN EVER, WITH A WEIRD FAT DISTRIBUTION I DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE (WEIRDER THAN WHAT LED ME TO TRY THIS) AND, WORSE OF ALL, THE FAT IS NOT GOING AWAY, WHEN BEFORE I COULD LOSE A LITTLE WEIGHT IF I WANTED TO AS EASILY AS RESTRICTING CALORIES VEEEERY SLIGHTLY DURING TWO MONTHS. I used to eat 55% CH, 16.5% protein and 29% fat with much more sugar and saturated fat MY WHOLE LIFE and was slim, lean and fit as one could be. I am now eating 48% CH, 24% protein (with even higher days) and 28% fat (with even higher days), again, with the more "healthy fats", less sugar, wheat and starchs and more protein. Also, my skin is AWFUL and I am not sleeping well, no more than 5 hours in a row, while before I slept 9/10 hours easily and happily. How can you explain this???
@@adaw332 Dr. John McDougall has the answer in the book The Starch Solution. He also has lots of videos on TH-cam. I learned to eat like you used to, higher carb/starch and lower fat and protein. It's very hard to gain weight like that, and when I do I can lose it quickly and easily by decreasing fat and increasing vegetable intake.
@@adaw332 it sounds like different bodies do better or worse in different programs. For me, a low carb lifestyle is best for my weight if I can stick to it. Problem is, I LOVE carbs, and so do my fat cells. 😕
Dr. Jason Fung is the first person that I know who recognized the centrality of insulin in generating fat tissue. He needs to be recognized for his excellence.
He started with fat and sugar and primarily learnt and followed other MDs and dieticians, health bloggers... he followed the data and repeated it, he didn't innovate it or the discussion he joined it, parroted it and profits through his books. His talks and interviews are quite wishy washy and focus not enough on dietary habits but not eating and a keto style of eating.
He doesn't talk bullshit but not really the first . I learnt in a french school in 1998 that sugar= insulin and insulin= body fat stocking. Mix sugar and fat (like say in a big mac for instance) and the protein meat content will have almost no impact on your weight gain. Sugar + fat, regardless of the number of calories is a deadly mix. Insulin is a catabolic (destruction) hormone.
A scientist not pretending to be an arrogant omniscient being and an interviewer not trying to be a scientist, just asking what I want to know. Thank you HIH, I enjoyed this a lot. One more subscriber today ;)
It's often the case that those of high moral character are also very humble. In other interviews Dr Bikman always speaks highly and reverently of his wife and family. Good guy and good information.
@@Blind_Side94 it does.. it helps if you want to burn more calories easily and also stimulates processes to lower inflammation in your body... and makes you simply tougher than the average soft city human hehehe ;-)
Absolutely everything this guy says I have seen in practice. I'm a nurse practitioner and where I work we have been measuring fasting insulin for more than 10 years now. So many patients with normal glucose levels don't know they have very high insulin levels. You can have insulin resistance for 10 years before becoming a diabetic. As far as public health is concern fasting glucose and A1C levels alone does not help to prevent diabetes. Now, not everyone with high insulin will become a diabetic some will just have inflammation issues. Fascinating interview!!!
I've been a silent follower for some time now, but I feel compelled to say (or rather, echoing what everyone has commented thus far) that the quality of this interview was one of the best. Essentially reemphasizing something that is seemingly 'already understood' (insulin) but really diving deeper into the dangers of when it (insulin) is unregulated. Thanks for the work that you do!
@@SiimLand as far as I understand is that our liver is capable of producing glucose using a process called gluconeogenesis. This production will still put glucose in your bloodstream, this in turn means that our body needs to produce insulin to transport this glucose to the brain(for the confused, small part of our brain runs on glucose). Sure insulin is not the enemy when it's doing it's happy little job just a little bit at a time. But we are currently being bombarded by carbs which will make our pancreas run into overtime producing insulin to get rid of all that sugar.
I love how his successful person morning routine is caring for his family, even considering not to make them uncomfortable with him not eating with them. Great guy, great family man
oh wow, at 22:00 they are talking about how ketosis is a cyclical event, based on seasonal eating and the abundance and scarcity of food. this is the exact conclusion I independently came to when starting the keto diet, it had to be what every human went through in the past but what really doesn't happen today with a supermarket on every corner.
not just based on seasons but latitude as well. at the equator, tropical fruits and veggies. at barrow alaska, whale blubber dipped in seal oil. thats the range but it depends on light. see dr jack kruse about that.
@@trapperkcmo3460 not necessarily based on where you currently live, but your ancestors because you have that DNA or maybe a combination of the 2...seems more complicated than it should be
I recently watched Dr. Benjamin Bikman's lecture on the low carb down under channel, and it was eye opening. I thought, from years of watching presentations from the likes of Gary Taubes, Dr. Ted Naiman, Dr. Jeff Volek, Dr. Stephen Phinney, Dr. Timothy Noakes etc. etc., that I heard all I needed to hear about insulin. However, when I watched that lecture from Dr. Bikman, and this notion of how insulin effects brown adipose tissue, it was definitely an enlightening moment. Thank you so much for giving Dr. Bikman a platform to further explain his insight
To optimize insulin sensitivity getting the main part of your calories from complex carbohydrates is by far the best choice. All meta-studies on this subject show that high carb intake correlates with a lower BMI and lower rates of obesity (intriguingly, a lot of the studies were done on Americans so the carb intake included a lot of high glycemic carbs as well). The problem are not carbs, but how your body is able to deal with them. High fat intake as well as carrying a lot of bodyfat will increase the level of triglycerides in the bloodstream ---> this then leads to intramyocellular lipids (google that) building up in the cells and downregulating insulin receptor activity ---> your body wont be able to control bloodsugar as well as before ---> you develop metabolic syndrom/diabetes and carbs will actually make you fat. I dont get how anyone would advice keto/high fat diets for longterm weightloss. People should go to the library and check what the actual scientific data says on this. Keto mainly works well for bodybuilders as it makes it easer to get from 6% to 4%bf and it makes the effect of carbloading more pronounced and easier to control (in addition to the diuretic effect of leaving out carbs for a longer duration). Btw why do you think all these chicks are going vegan recently? Most of these bitches dont care for the animals but they love it because they get leaner ---> limited fat sources as well as lots of complex carb sources with low calorie density. People dont get fat from eating oats, potatoes, whole grain noodles + fruits and vegetables....No, its milk products, processed meat...come on deep inside everyone actually knows this is true. People just like to hear that eating all those tasty fatty foods is healthy, because they wont have to change anything.
Thanks from this video. I'm an ex-sugar addict that converted to nutritional ketosis two and half years ago. This video added to my knowledge about the benefits of nutritional ketosis.
From one phd obesity researcher to another I really appreciate the info shared in this video. he's a natural at explaining in a simple way he should teach. best video in my opinion by far
I didn't like you channel at the beginning but during time your channel become THE GREAT ONE. This video is maybe THE BEST video on internet about insulin, insulin resistance, ketones and other related topics. THAN YOU VERY MUCH and keep in that way :)
I saw a Ted video from a psychiatrist showing lower body temperature as a key sign of depression, and how serotonin was triggered by alternating cold-hot skin baths. He mentioned how skin nerve receptor were a direct way to stimulate specific brain areas, with much more precision than medications. Sounds this is somehow connected to Brown Fat and body heat.
Could be, David Rojas Elbirt! Metabolic and immune responses are coordinated, which are connected to neurotransmitter levels as well. It's one big interconnected system! Cheers, Mike
this is amazing. I can see the changes happening in me and all I did was lower sugar and up healthy fat intake. Totally against the advice of all diet info I grew up on, this approach has been life-altering for me. I'm able to stay at a maintenance weight with NO EFFORT when I am using more fat for energy. When I was younger and addicted to sugar, there was absolutely nothing I could do to keep the weight off. Even being active in high school I ballooned, there was nothing I could do to work off the weight, and I was too tired to try harder, and too hungry to eat less. Now, I can mess up my diet and no fat gain, because I simply burn it off. My body is working completely differently now.
Yes, I can fast without complaint now that I run on fat. When I was fasting, I realized I've never known true hunger before. Being hungry for even one day is not TRUE hunger. People act as if it's impossible to ignore the pains of sugar cravings but once you're through them, you see what your body is really capable of.
Mari Campari I did a test once and ate 8 half gallons of ice cream for 2 months. Then quit all sugar. I could taste the ice cream/sugar later coming out in my mouth for 6 months afterwards.
Favorite component of this interview. . .Dr. Bikman's response/responsibility to his children. Teaching the next generation is the key to excellent change.
Liver Stroganoff - Fry an onion (Lard of beef dripping is best), add thick cream, salt, mustard, fresh herbs and a little paprika, throw in the thinly sliced liver and cook gently for a few minutes. Serve with your favourite vegetable(s). Takes about 10 minutes including cooking and prep time. Your kids might even enjoy it.
As an athlete, I have learned a tremendous amount from this video,thanks very very much!! Especially on the point on breakfast and the insulin level in the morning. This will help me in my training so much
I love your channel, and I have been watching for a while. This video is my favorite to date! The quality and detail of this information is off the charts. The way you explained it so everyone could understand... mind blowing. Thank you is not enough for you both, but thank you for sharing this invaluable information with us! I believe it is so crucial and life changing. I will be sharing!!!
Thanks, Tricia Lyon! Have many new shows coming soon that I think you'll enjoy. If you want additional info and early access to shows, check out our insider membership: highintensityhealth.com/insider Cheers! Mike
I tried explaining the difference between Brown fat and white fat to a friend and got looked at like i had four heads lol ... i was trying to tell her to watch her insulin levels and about keto and to work out in the cold when possible to try and get more brown fat but she didn't believe me ... so im happy i found this video.Great info !
@@sidmichael1158 ummm ya ...Research shows daily exposure to cold increases a body's volume of brown adipose tissue, or brown fat. So to exercise and work out in the cold is a great idea.
I literally look at starchy carby “foods” as poison now. I’m transitioning my whole family to a ketogenic diet, and I’m sure we’ll lose some behavioral issues with our children as well. I’m excited for the change. It’s never too soon, or too late, to start eating REAL FOOD. I want my children to have the BEST possible start in life!! Why shouldn’t we all?? I’d rather spend our money on the best foods money can buy. Otherwise we’ll be spending that money on sick care!
You could argue that it's easier to have meat to eat when it's cold as the food did not spoil in cooler weather but isn't summer it spoils within hours and the thirst factor is less in cooler weather.
Conspiracy theories tend to be just that: theories. I think that this callory counting is the result of people not wanting to eat less sugar and not wanting to eat more vegetables. People will go with doctors and medicine that allow them to eat all the bad stuff ..... "in moderation". I saw a guy in an interview complaining that because of his diabetes he is allowed "only 1 milkshake er day". If that is how people think then it is not so strange doctors and medicine are focused on helping them survive their own stuidity.
Conspiracy theories happen because history is, and continues to be full of conspiracies. No, you can't rule out incompetence, and stupidity either, but people really do conspire to gain power and wealth.
I started the Wim Hoff method over two years ago. I take literal ice showers every day, I take long walks in snow storms in nothing bud shorts... as low at 10 below zero. I haven’t shivered once in two years. Throw some Wim Hoff method deep into your daily fast and you will have your brown fat humming all day long. Great video. Obviously I wrote this before the 24 min mark. 🥴
I've been overweight all my concious life and obese since I'm adult. Like everyone I was always told that breakfast is so important, I noticed that I tend to be hungrier during the mornings when I had breakfast than when I didn't. Got told that having an appetite means that "your engine is running" and "you need to be hungry to burn fat". Tried to lose weight countless times, was always hungry and the weight always returned after I failed again (off course). Decided to start cutting carbs (not exactly keto due to social reasons, but no sugar and as little carbs outside of shared meals as possible) and IF (just skipping breakfast for now) about 2-3 weeks ago and I think that for the first time in my life I'm not that hungry, I don't feel tempted to buy crisps and pastries in the supermarket and I have to use my calorie-counter to make sure I eat enough instead of not too much. The science makes sense to me too, I like having some understanding of what I'm doing when drastically restricting anything (biology student here, not specializing on physiology but I've had the basics at least), I came to the conclusion of high carb/low carb diets being a seasonal cycle myself and I'm glad to hear it confirmed. If I keep feeling this way and keep losing weight steadily (lost like 2.5 kg since the start of april) this might finally be my answer to this mess :)
Think about it in terms of prehistory...we had to get up and go hunt for our first meal...our body tends to raise cortisol in the morning to help release glucose with glucagon ... our bodies provide our breakfast for us in a way...so anyone who says breakfast is the most important meal of the day is being dogmatic usually and not thinking...breakfast is neither really good nor really bad....it all depends on what gets you up and moving...you need to choose what is right for yourself :-)
I totally enjoy listening to this channel. The interviewer is informed, knowledgeable, and allows the guest to speak their train of thought. Great job as usual.
Why thanks, Tim McCarthy! Funniest part is it was filmed by my Uber driver with no camera 🎥 experience :-) I was nervous how it would turn out, but think it came out well. Cheers, Mike
Thank you for the great talk! Everything you have been saying sound great, but I would like to add or maybe clarify that high-fat diet means healthy high fat diet and since he mentioned the Mediterranean diet, I would like to add that in the Mediterranean diet there are plenty "good" carbohydrates like legumes, fruits, and vegetables as well as limited meat and lots of "good" fats like olive oil, olives, eggs!
Exactly, that's the goal Dani P! No more he-said-she-said. Want to let the scientists share their work. Cheers, Mike
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Amazing interview! I learned so much!!! I really appreciate that the interviewer asked great questions and then sat back and actually listened to the answers. One of the best interviews I've heard in a long time!
Maybe increased uncoupling during ketosis is because when there is a lot of dietary fat available, the body can afford to self-regulate temperature without shivering, and the same pathways getting activated during fasting is just a glitch.
Liver is pretty much the only food that actually makes my mouth water even though it is not even close to a favorite food. I always assumed there is something in it that I am severely lacking in my diet.
Wow. I started this video mostly because I have this mental "resistance" towards the idea of "brown fat" - I mean, fat is fat, right? BUT --- I ALSO know I'm stubborn and closed minded and NEED to WORK at keeping an open mind - so I watched this. And I'm SO GLAD I did. I just wish certain members of my family and friends network would watch but (like me) they are stubborn and closed minded (probably why we get along) and it's really hard to convince them to open their mind to a new angle. Great work, guys -- keep it coming! I want to know more about these studies!!
Polyunsaturated fats- Damage the cells in your " pancreas " PUFAs--short for "" polyunsaturated fats " Blood Sugar - polyunsaturated fats damage the cells in your " pancreas " that produce insulin ! . If you want to lose body fat and achieve a high level of health, you want a very effective blood sugar handling system. PUFAs can damage this system. For those with blood sugar handling issues the primary focus is usually reduced sugar intake, however, I believe it makes more sense to reduce PUFAs from your diet. Skin health - PUFAs are closely linked to age pigment formation. In addition, a high level of PUFA in your body means when you are exposed to the sun, free radical damage is more likely. Metabolism - PUFAs can stress various systems in your body, particularly the rate at which your cells produce energy (i.e. your metabolism). This has numerous implications for thyroid health and general hormonal balance. Digestion / Immune System - PUFAs can impair protein digestion. Digestion problems are rampant in this day and age, eliminating PUFAs are an often overlooked and very effective way at supporting digestion. Your immune system is closely linked to your digestive system, a problem with digestion almost guarantees a poorly functioning immune system. Detoxification - The liver plays a major role in detoxification, polyunsaturated fats can overburden the liver. That sluggish feeling you feel after eating out? You may have just consumed polyunsaturated fats . Where are polyunsaturated fats present? PUFAs are present in nearly all foods (even vegetables). While some extremists would say to avoid high-PUFA vegetables I don't believe you need to go that far. Small amounts of unprocessed PUFA in a well balanced diet are unlikely to cause any issues. The most damaging PUFAs are the processed liquid cooking oils below: Canola oil, Grapseed Oil, Corn Oil, Soybean Oil, Generic Vegetable Oil, Walnuts Oil, Cottonseed Oil, Sesame Oil, Peanut Oil, Margarine, Flaxseed Oil. Foods and oils with very high amounts of polyunsaturated fats include : Walnuts. Sunflower seeds. Flax seeds or flax oil. Fish such as "salmon" , mackerel, herring, albacore tuna, and trout. Corn oil. Soybean oil. Safflower oil. .((( A R T I C L E )) Unsaturated Vegetable Oils: Toxic ;
In addition to the great quote, 'Eat to be lean, exercise to be fit', I think another should be from Peter Attia, 'Hormones drive fuel partition'! If I understand correctly, elevated insulin lowers the metabolic rate by signaling to the liver not to produce ketones and instead store it as fat (or if the fat is over capacity, signal stem cells to make more fat cells)? Chronic hyperinsulinemia leads to an accumulation of ceramide and insulin resistance. Meanwhile, low insulin, signals ketone production, which causes white fat to behave like brown (uncoupling/beijing)? It's interesting to think about why the body, in times of famine/ketones, would want to burn excess energy as heat (20m10s). Regarding how ketones and cold exposure activates brown fat (24m mark), has it been shown that people living in cold climates have more brown fat like newborns? Or is it that they have more beijing of white fat cells? Also, if the weaknesses of using rodent models is well understood, why not use canines? Isn't canine metabolism/digestion much more similar to humans? Where are the links to the video mentioned at the 27m07s... or the study comparing time-restricted-feeding, ketogenic diet, and s.a.d. 35m45s? Regarding how people are insulin insensitive (with respect to glucose metabolism) in the morning due to rising (antagonist) cortisol, 37m38s.. Chris Masterjohn has some great podcasts on insulin (ex. see comments in 'Why Insulin Doesn't Make Us Fat 2.26'), and seems to suggest people are *more insulin sensitive* in the morning. What am I missing? Regarding how (exogenous) ketones are converted to fat in the presence of insulin (42m08s), why then does Dr. Bikman suggest that it may still help with those suffering from brain trauma/disorders? Also like the part about how insulin and ketones *both* signal the production of glutathione antioxidants!
What a great interview. Dr. Ben is scarry knowledgable about his field. I truly appreciate the work that he and his colleagues do - thank goodness for them. How come they weren't around before I got Type II diabetes. But I am working hard to reverse that. And thank you for presenting your podcast - excellent.
Dr. Robert Atkins(cardiologist) was teaching this from the 70s. Keto is nothing new or phenomenal. Yet the fact that he was a cardiologist he knew the limitations of his high fat version & the push back to it. Atkins 2.0 was a high protein version & it worked just as well with a better effect on testosterone & lipids.
Fantastic interview both questions and answers. I had to look up a lot of terms but I learned a lot about insulin. Thank you so much. I'm going to watch the 2nd interview next.
I still believe if we have fat to use as fuel then we should. Since we have accessibility to all fruit beans and grains year round. So therefore Ketosis makes sense all year round for humans now if people can do it. And breaking it during social times if desired.
The "Study of One" that you are in is better than all the crap studies that Big Food and Big Pharma can pay for! Jesus H. Christ, God bless him is still in the dark ages. I think they may start burning us at the stake if we don't fall in line with the eat less move more crap that has given the U.S. and now the rest of the world diabetes. Have a Coke and a smile!
Loved this. Think this may have been one of your best interviews. This has so much content that really can explain all the components of Keto and how it all works together summed up really neatly. Keep up the good work!
Thank you! This was one of the best interviews I have seen in this realm. Ben is so clear in his explanations and I love that he is passionate about sharing the info more outside of the scientific circles. Thank you so much for this video! I learned a lot!
when i lived in minnesota i would go outside every morning regardless of temperature in my bare feet with no shirt on and stand for a minute or two to signal my body. then eat bacon and eggs for breakfast because i read about this brown fat stuff and i swear it helped me feel warmer throughout the day. try it if you live up north. I'm watching this video in a hurricane in south florida!
lukusr - indeed the evidence for cold shock therapy is building up ... also ref Ben Greenfield .... www.70GoingOn100.com the Centenarian Diet, or maybe 128, the Hayflick limit, or if a Ray Kurzweil fan then this is a Moot Point …
Mike, thanks a ton for all the great discussions you have with physicians and scientists who care deeply about nutrition. I've learned a ton in the past few weeks watching. And your notes with time markers are a great plus. They help me remember why I liked a particular discussion and what I might want to review quickly.
Typically enjoy your interviews but this one was incredible! A wealth of information broken down for this layman. Thank you for putting out outstanding content.
@@dongrant810 actually. I am beginning to have the same issue. As a type2 diabetic for over 30 years, my insulin resistance is very strong. I've been doing intermittent fasting but just started 36 hour fasting. It's very hard because no matter what, my insulin rises but it's coming down gradually. If your really insulin resistant and have been that way for awhile aka years, then going to the next step may be necessary. Fasting and vertically zero carbs and no sugar or sugar substitutes. You have to break the sugar addiction. I'm working on my sugar addiction too. I've lost 46 lbs and hit a major plateau. Next step it is. Good luck.
Same, but I think I need to cut out all carbs at this point because IF and low carb isn't doing it anymore. I lost 10lbs but that's it. I've hit a plateau.
resistance weight training is great, but calisthenics training is great too. i do a few calisthenics movements a day to improve my altheticism and i'm willing to bet i can be more effective than doing weights. nothing better than learning how to move your body, engaging your mind and muscle to learn a new movement.
Why not study bodybuilders, how they manipulate carbs and protein post workout with insulin and growth hormones. Also their use of dnp for fatloss and how it works on mitochondria and metabolism. It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall with a round table talk with probodybuilders and these different metabolism and hormone researchers.
I think bodybuilders are still understudied. They were using low carb keto diets ever since the 50s but still not a lot of research on resistance training and ketosis. Dr. Jacob Wilson and Lawrey are just making it happen
I think of bodybuilders as extreme, so makes them easier to study. Pro bodubuilders are said to use many drugs to manipulate timing of insilin and gh but dont seem to get fat from this insulin use. Im not advocating its use but think we may learn something from what they do.
Dan smith Almost no large bodybuilder has Type 2. See Kali Muscle channel. He even makes a cake out of Oreos and Cola and eats it. Huge muscle mass always burns up all excess glucose in the blood.
Excellent video! thankyou! i would have like to hear his input if high protein limits ketosis. in my understanding its a misnomer. THanks for all you share on this channel!
It can kick you out of ketosis but it won't jeopardize keto-adaptation. The two are quite distinct. You may burn off that extra glucose via gluconeogenesis, thus suppressing ketones, but your brain will easily revert back to burning fat for fuel within a few hours
Spencer, due to Autophagy, we recycle 70% of our proteins, an evolutionary adaptation to "Starvation". Excess proteins end up as ammonia a waste in urine. GNG is function that never allows glucose to go to Zero in Blood, reason "Fasting" 30-60 days works - another evolutionary adaptation. Humans - member of the Great Apes that Stores "Fat", we store limited carbs, we store fats and proteins, but proteins are last resort fuel - carbs very short term fuel - ketones and Starvation was our Normal State - Ref: Dr. Ohsumi - Autophagy www.70GoingOn100.com the Centenarian Diet, or maybe 128, the Hayflick limit, or if a Ray Kurzweil fan then this is a Moot Point …
Wait a sec, Mike...about fat cells always being fat cells (6:25), what about what Dr. Cate Shanahan's said in her book Deep Nutrition. She talks about fat cells being able to change into other types of cells, known as "transdifferentiation" (chap 11, step 3) talking about fat cells being able to turn back into stem cells ("redifferentiation") and then into bone, muscle, or other cells.) Exercise can trigger this transdifferentiation by signaling muscle and bone growth. Would fasting lead to fat cells browning and burning more fuel because of the rise in HGH and adrenalin? This way we can expend more energy to go out and hunt? I like the idea of it keeping us warm in colder times, when carbs are naturally scarce. We see fruits abundant in tropical zones, whereas the diet is more ketogenic in winter zone's and eating that way keeps the body burning warm. Would tropical native people contain more white fat, and northern cold zoned people contain more brown fat, and would those people epigenetically be able to brown their fat better when following generations depart to warmer weather? So very interesting, philosophically thinking.... The standard American diet has been so much like "summer" all year round.... people are not only learning about keto diets, but in a way we are all trying to force our bodies into "wintering" (from keto and cold exposure hacks) because our environments have become so controlled. Maybe one thing we could do to get back to the root underlying cause by just get rid of electricity... LOL ;)
yes, I have been talking about this with my sons for weeks now. Most nutrition is not science at all, but a marketing tool to make you buy more food. If most of us just ate one meal a day we would be healthy.
The standard American diet is not like summer. 90% of Americans don’t eat the recommended daily intake of fruit and vegetables. Most are deficient in fiber and that’s why you have high incidence of colon cancer and diverticulitis The standard American diet is something new, processed sugary fatty food was absolutely not available back then.
Don Grant I agree...I ate OMAD but in a SAD way....was gaining slowly over 12 years....now I’m doing Keto and the weight is coming off pretty much at 0.9 lbs per week...next experiment will be carnivore to see how I fare eating just nutritious forms of meat
Megan Hantz, Health Coach I could be wrong...but brown fat tends to be really small in volume...like 1 or 2 shot glasses worth in the whole body....but white fat is always abundant and there tends to be pounds of it in most people...
i've had it. I'm so confused. every video I watch or article I read contradict in every possible way when it comes to nutrition. high fat, low fat, low car, high carb, vegan, paleo, balanced, fasting, keto, personalized diet based on gut bacteria and DNA. they all say different things. with every other science there is some kind of consensus. WHY NOT NUTRITION?????????????? WHY?
It may seem like that, but we're all saying the same thing pretty much: eat real food that's in season. If you want to balance blood sugar or lose weight, try low-carb or keto. Thanks Mike
I appreciate the reply, but I'd have to disagree here. Even when talking about clean food, the vegan community treats saturated fat like it's the plague and it will cause heart disease within seconds of consumption, where ketogenics and paleo supporters see it(saturated fat) as their main source of energy.
Slav Elenkov because...you can eat many different ways and achieve results...but there are only a few ways to be truly healthy....that part is simple....natural whole foods and decent amounts of micronutrients....also athletes cover up a lot of damage with lots of exercise....but in the end it catches up with a lot of them and they retire and get fat... Best way to eat and exercise is to do as little as possible but use the high intensity needed for healthy results....you can’t run an engine full speed for many many years....but if you don’t run it at all it will rust and die...you have to find a good medium...the more you push your body in shortest amount of time....the longer you will live.
Ben Bikman is one of the kindest men I know. He was transformative in helping myself and my cousin eventually fulfill our dream of going to medical school. He always was a mentor and a lifter. He is empathetic and kind. I also know he is smart! But, more important this guy is just an overall "good dude." Proud to see him doing great things and then I research brown fat for help in my histology course he is the #2 hit on youtube. Love it. I really love it.
YES! Your comments give just more proof ( as if we needed it😋) of what so many of us have already sensed in this fine Professor and Scientist! Such a bright, GOOD, lovely man-I wish we could clone him! 🥳🥰👍
His goodness shines through and he is rewarded by it.
i rarely comment but i couldn't resist acknowledging bikman's ability to express his ideas in such precise, concise, exact but easy to grasp way. good on him.
It is the thorough knowledge he has got thru deep research.
I rarely respond to comments, but I agree.
Great video! So many doctors know nothing about brown fat in adults, or the ketogenic diet.
I'm not questioning none of the guys here, but I'd like to understand... I used to eat sweet cookies EVERY SINGLE DAY -not exaggerating: every morning and afternoon. Cookies in my country though are more dry, they have a higher CH content than fat content unlike in the States, and more saturated fats than non-saturated, that is, more buttery and less oily. My triglicerydes were always at optimum levels and so were all my health indicators from comprehensive blood tests. Being in a more than amazing shape, a depression got me to lose a bit of weight and then when I recovered it, it looked a bit different than before so I wanted to get back to normal. So, for a long time now, for about a year, I have been reducing wheat, added sugars and saturated fats to the maximum recommended daily, increased my uptake of "healthy" fats and adjusting overall fats, CH and protein to those ideally recommended, both by my nutritionist and online serious nutrition information from Harvard and such. I also tried intermittent fasting for some months. All other things equal, I AM NOW FATTER THAN EVER, WITH A WEIRD FAT DISTRIBUTION I DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE (WEIRDER THAN WHAT LED ME TO TRY THIS) AND, WORSE OF ALL, THE FAT IS NOT GOING AWAY, WHEN BEFORE I COULD LOSE A LITTLE WEIGHT IF I WANTED TO AS EASILY AS RESTRICTING CALORIES VEEEERY SLIGHTLY DURING TWO MONTHS. I used to eat 55% CH, 16.5% protein and 29% fat with much more sugar and saturated fat MY WHOLE LIFE and was slim, lean and fit as one could be. I am now eating 48% CH, 24% protein (with even higher days) and 28% fat (with even higher days), again, with the more "healthy fats", less sugar, wheat and starchs and more protein. Also, my skin is AWFUL and I am not sleeping well, no more than 5 hours in a row, while before I slept 9/10 hours easily and happily. How can you explain this???
So many stuck in believing evolution rather that a personal loving God i pray for the community to know and love Him more
@@adaw332 Dr. John McDougall has the answer in the book The Starch Solution. He also has lots of videos on TH-cam. I learned to eat like you used to, higher carb/starch and lower fat and protein. It's very hard to gain weight like that, and when I do I can lose it quickly and easily by decreasing fat and increasing vegetable intake.
@@adaw332 it sounds like different bodies do better or worse in different programs. For me, a low carb lifestyle is best for my weight if I can stick to it. Problem is, I LOVE carbs, and so do my fat cells. 😕
@@qaqqclifdunbar5154 Amen!
Dr. Jason Fung is the first person that I know who recognized the centrality of insulin in generating fat tissue. He needs to be recognized for his excellence.
He started with fat and sugar and primarily learnt and followed other MDs and dieticians, health bloggers... he followed the data and repeated it, he didn't innovate it or the discussion he joined it, parroted it and profits through his books.
His talks and interviews are quite wishy washy and focus not enough on dietary habits but not eating and a keto style of eating.
Yes I heard it first from him. Ekburg is good too!
He doesn't talk bullshit but not really the first . I learnt in a french school in 1998 that sugar= insulin and insulin= body fat stocking. Mix sugar and fat (like say in a big mac for instance) and the protein meat content will have almost no impact on your weight gain. Sugar + fat, regardless of the number of calories is a deadly mix. Insulin is a catabolic (destruction) hormone.
No! GaryTaubes should get the credit for vindicating Atkins and dropping a bomb on conventional wisdom.
He's very recognized. Dr Beckman's research is uniquely helpful.
A scientist not pretending to be an arrogant omniscient being and an interviewer not trying to be a scientist, just asking what I want to know.
Thank you HIH, I enjoyed this a lot. One more subscriber today ;)
My thots exactly! I also subscribed.💕
It's often the case that those of high moral character are also very humble.
In other interviews Dr Bikman always speaks highly and reverently of his wife and family. Good guy and good information.
1 more sub here too
spot on +1
Ditto on that ..8 just subscribed
Great interview, Bikman is the man!!
Hey, how you doin'? :)
KenDBerryMD my brown fat is burning hot...I go outside with t shirt and shorts and it’s almost freezing water temps at the moment hehe
Well, technically he’s Bikman.
@@qthirteen13 does that help? Being cold?
@@Blind_Side94 it does.. it helps if you want to burn more calories easily and also stimulates processes to lower inflammation in your body... and makes you simply tougher than the average soft city human hehehe ;-)
Absolutely everything this guy says I have seen in practice. I'm a nurse practitioner and where I work we have been measuring fasting insulin for more than 10 years now. So many patients with normal glucose levels don't know they have very high insulin levels. You can have insulin resistance for 10 years before becoming a diabetic. As far as public health is concern fasting glucose and A1C levels alone does not help to prevent diabetes. Now, not everyone with high insulin will become a diabetic some will just have inflammation issues. Fascinating interview!!!
I've been a silent follower for some time now, but I feel compelled to say (or rather, echoing what everyone has commented thus far) that the quality of this interview was one of the best. Essentially reemphasizing something that is seemingly 'already understood' (insulin) but really diving deeper into the dangers of when it (insulin) is unregulated. Thanks for the work that you do!
I agree - insulin is depicted as the enemy but we shouldn't take it as black and white. It's more like a matter of context
Wow, thanks for that Castor Phan!
Many more equally informative interviews in the hopper coming soon :-)
Cheers,
Mike
Castor Phan i
@@SiimLand as far as I understand is that our liver is capable of producing glucose using a process called gluconeogenesis. This production will still put glucose in your bloodstream, this in turn means that our body needs to produce insulin to transport this glucose to the brain(for the confused, small part of our brain runs on glucose). Sure insulin is not the enemy when it's doing it's happy little job just a little bit at a time. But we are currently being bombarded by carbs which will make our pancreas run into overtime producing insulin to get rid of all that sugar.
An absolute home run on this Mike - really one of your best interviews to date which is saying something. Please bring Dr. Bikman back again soon.
Thanks, Todd Studer! Means a lot.
I agree!
Ah, ah, I ag I ag I agree with you and T, T Todd Studer.
I love how his successful person morning routine is caring for his family, even considering not to make them uncomfortable with him not eating with them. Great guy, great family man
oh wow, at 22:00 they are talking about how ketosis is a cyclical event, based on seasonal eating and the abundance and scarcity of food. this is the exact conclusion I independently came to when starting the keto diet, it had to be what every human went through in the past but what really doesn't happen today with a supermarket on every corner.
I've come to the same conclusion on my own as well...
not just based on seasons but latitude as well. at the equator, tropical fruits and veggies. at barrow alaska, whale blubber dipped in seal oil. thats the range but it depends on light. see dr jack kruse about that.
@@trp2413 I have always thought that, yes... keto either should be done over winter and/or restricted to a few months
@@trapperkcmo3460 yes indeed, it seems to me most people live in the northern hemisphere, eg europe, china, us, canada, much of asia
@@trapperkcmo3460 not necessarily based on where you currently live, but your ancestors because you have that DNA or maybe a combination of the 2...seems more complicated than it should be
This is absolutely brilliant Mike.
Dr Bikman explains things so clearly. You guys need to do this every 6 months or so.
Great idea, Pat Russell!
Dr. Ben is amazing indeed.
Cheers,
Mike
I'm not a scientist but I love these nerdy talks!
I agree and I also dig into PubMed to do some reading as well
A lot better than most Netflix series and also very useful for the real life
Laura Softheart ok bitch
Yuo learned a lot
I recently watched Dr. Benjamin Bikman's lecture on the low carb down under channel, and it was eye opening. I thought, from years of watching presentations from the likes of Gary Taubes, Dr. Ted Naiman, Dr. Jeff Volek, Dr. Stephen Phinney, Dr. Timothy Noakes etc. etc., that I heard all I needed to hear about insulin. However, when I watched that lecture from Dr. Bikman, and this notion of how insulin effects brown adipose tissue, it was definitely an enlightening moment. Thank you so much for giving Dr. Bikman a platform to further explain his insight
Thanks, Drake Santiago!
Always new stuff to discuss.
Appreciate your tuning in,
Mike
Another argument for high carb diets
Um Nachtet, I am assuming you mean low carb diets?
To optimize insulin sensitivity getting the main part of your calories from complex carbohydrates is by far the best choice. All meta-studies on this subject show that high carb intake correlates with a lower BMI and lower rates of obesity (intriguingly, a lot of the studies were done on Americans so the carb intake included a lot of high glycemic carbs as well).
The problem are not carbs, but how your body is able to deal with them. High fat intake as well as carrying a lot of bodyfat will increase the level of triglycerides in the bloodstream ---> this then leads to intramyocellular lipids (google that) building up in the cells and downregulating insulin receptor activity ---> your body wont be able to control bloodsugar as well as before ---> you develop metabolic syndrom/diabetes and carbs will actually make you fat.
I dont get how anyone would advice keto/high fat diets for longterm weightloss. People should go to the library and check what the actual scientific data says on this. Keto mainly works well for bodybuilders as it makes it easer to get from 6% to 4%bf and it makes the effect of carbloading more pronounced and easier to control (in addition to the diuretic effect of leaving out carbs for a longer duration).
Btw why do you think all these chicks are going vegan recently? Most of these bitches dont care for the animals but they love it because they get leaner ---> limited fat sources as well as lots of complex carb sources with low calorie density. People dont get fat from eating oats, potatoes, whole grain noodles + fruits and vegetables....No, its milk products, processed meat...come on deep inside everyone actually knows this is true. People just like to hear that eating all those tasty fatty foods is healthy, because they wont have to change anything.
Um Nachtet You lost credibility when you used the terms of Chicks and Bitches! 🤪
Thanks from this video. I'm an ex-sugar addict that converted to nutritional ketosis two and half years ago. This video added to my knowledge about the benefits of nutritional ketosis.
From one phd obesity researcher to another I really appreciate the info shared in this video. he's a natural at explaining in a simple way he should teach. best video in my opinion by far
Yes, it's great to see some people incorporating the importance of more mitochondria
I agree: the guest is very clear and makes the complex science so easy to understand. This one is my fave, too.
ProfessorRae have you ever considered intermittent fasting to trim down?
He does teach, as far as I know... he’s at BYU
It seems that aging and obesity are to a large extent an issue of mitochondrial INefficiency. Better start using your own fat for fuel
Indeed, Siim Land!
Keeps coming up in different discussions and applications.
Cheers,
Mike
then obese people should be living the longest, since they have plenty of fat. Do you bro science much?
Kalashnikov Cortez no because they can't access their fat stores for fuel.
Kalashnikov Cortez They can't use their fat stores if insulin keeps them from accessing it. Research before you make statements.
so you think you can't get lean on a high carb diet?
Waw . . . . Another fantastic interview with Bikman. Thank you for that.
I didn't like you channel at the beginning but during time your channel become THE GREAT ONE. This video is maybe THE BEST video on internet about insulin, insulin resistance, ketones and other related topics. THAN YOU VERY MUCH and keep in that way :)
I saw a Ted video from a psychiatrist showing lower body temperature as a key sign of depression, and how serotonin was triggered by alternating cold-hot skin baths. He mentioned how skin nerve receptor were a direct way to stimulate specific brain areas, with much more precision than medications. Sounds this is somehow connected to Brown Fat and body heat.
David, have you by chance a link to this Ted talk ?
I collect such information.
Could be, David Rojas Elbirt!
Metabolic and immune responses are coordinated, which are connected to neurotransmitter levels as well.
It's one big interconnected system!
Cheers,
Mike
Really great insight on this!! i will try to find out the video. Thanks David .
Link?
Intresting.
you can tell how much he appreciates your knowledge on all this, especially his previous research
Omg , one of the best interviews
Thanks for that, JoeKickass324!
More good stuff coming shortly,
Mike
this is amazing. I can see the changes happening in me and all I did was lower sugar and up healthy fat intake. Totally against the advice of all diet info I grew up on, this approach has been life-altering for me. I'm able to stay at a maintenance weight with NO EFFORT when I am using more fat for energy. When I was younger and addicted to sugar, there was absolutely nothing I could do to keep the weight off. Even being active in high school I ballooned, there was nothing I could do to work off the weight, and I was too tired to try harder, and too hungry to eat less. Now, I can mess up my diet and no fat gain, because I simply burn it off. My body is working completely differently now.
You are so right and if you fast, you will not die and your hunger will go away!
Yes, I can fast without complaint now that I run on fat. When I was fasting, I realized I've never known true hunger before. Being hungry for even one day is not TRUE hunger. People act as if it's impossible to ignore the pains of sugar cravings but once you're through them, you see what your body is really capable of.
Mari Campari Sugar is poison not to mention the cause of most body fat.
Mari Campari I did a test once and ate 8 half gallons of ice cream for 2 months. Then quit all sugar. I could taste the ice cream/sugar later coming out in my mouth for 6 months afterwards.
Which food you were addicted to before, which have only "sugar" and no fat??
Favorite component of this interview. . .Dr. Bikman's response/responsibility to his children. Teaching the next generation is the key to excellent change.
Oh boy, he has answered almost all of my questions. A Brilliant Interview!!!
Liver Stroganoff - Fry an onion (Lard of beef dripping is best), add thick cream, salt, mustard, fresh herbs and a little paprika, throw in the thinly sliced liver and cook gently for a few minutes. Serve with your favourite vegetable(s). Takes about 10 minutes including cooking and prep time. Your kids might even enjoy it.
Love me some liver! Some sour cream and mushroom sauce into the mix and it's delish. All organic wild sources though ;)
Sounds yummy, Random Dent!
Mike
High Intensity Health I love liver. This sounds good. Thanks!
Great interview. Really looking forward to seeing the results of the keto vs IF fat adaptation results.
Fantastic interview! Great clarity on this very important subject. We’ve lost 110lbs doing keto and fasting and have reversed Skatz’ type 2 diabetes 😍
Wow that was one of the best information about lipogenesis, adipogenesis, ketogenesis and gluconeogenesis in respect to fat weight and getting lean.
Thanks, Julian!
Many more great interviews headed your way.
Mike
As an athlete, I have learned a tremendous amount from this video,thanks very very much!! Especially on the point on breakfast and the insulin level in the morning. This will help me in my training so much
I love your channel, and I have been watching for a while. This video is my favorite to date! The quality and detail of this information is off the charts. The way you explained it so everyone could understand... mind blowing. Thank you is not enough for you both, but thank you for sharing this invaluable information with us! I believe it is so crucial and life changing. I will be sharing!!!
Thanks, Tricia Lyon! Have many new shows coming soon that I think you'll enjoy.
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Mike
I tried explaining the difference between Brown fat and white fat to a friend and got looked at like i had four heads lol ... i was trying to tell her to watch her insulin levels and about keto and to work out in the cold when possible to try and get more brown fat but she didn't believe me ... so im happy i found this video.Great info !
Work out in the cold?
@@sidmichael1158 ummm ya ...Research shows daily exposure to cold increases a body's volume of brown adipose tissue, or brown fat. So to exercise and work out in the cold is a great idea.
@@kitten_purrrs73 can it also reduce your white fat and turn them into brown fat?
@@sidmichael1158 well with excerisce you should be losing white fat
@@kitten_purrrs73 it doesn't work. I tried doing I can't burn or access my stored fat. Perhaps the cold compression would help.
35:45 has that study been published? Where would I keep an eye out at to see his results on that project?
This talk, by far, is the best discussion on ketosis/insulin that has ever been posted. Congrats brothers on bringing this to the public.
I literally look at starchy carby “foods” as poison now. I’m transitioning my whole family to a ketogenic diet, and I’m sure we’ll lose some behavioral issues with our children as well. I’m excited for the change. It’s never too soon, or too late, to start eating REAL FOOD. I want my children to have the BEST possible start in life!! Why shouldn’t we all?? I’d rather spend our money on the best foods money can buy. Otherwise we’ll be spending that money on sick care!
Same here
You could argue that it's easier to have meat to eat when it's cold as the food did not spoil in cooler weather but isn't summer it spoils within hours and the thirst factor is less in cooler weather.
Conspiracy theories tend to be just that: theories. I think that this callory counting is the result of people not wanting to eat less sugar and not wanting to eat more vegetables. People will go with doctors and medicine that allow them to eat all the bad stuff ..... "in moderation".
I saw a guy in an interview complaining that because of his diabetes he is allowed "only 1 milkshake er day". If that is how people think then it is not so strange doctors and medicine are focused on helping them survive their own stuidity.
Remember if there’s no diabetic patients then there wouldn’t be any million dollar making doctors
Yeah, take poison........in moderation.
Conspiracy theories happen because history is, and continues to be full of conspiracies. No, you can't rule out incompetence, and stupidity either, but people really do conspire to gain power and wealth.
I started the Wim Hoff method over two years ago. I take literal ice showers every day, I take long walks in snow storms in nothing bud shorts... as low at 10 below zero. I haven’t shivered once in two years. Throw some Wim Hoff method deep into your daily fast and you will have your brown fat humming all day long. Great video. Obviously I wrote this before the 24 min mark. 🥴
I've been overweight all my concious life and obese since I'm adult. Like everyone I was always told that breakfast is so important, I noticed that I tend to be hungrier during the mornings when I had breakfast than when I didn't. Got told that having an appetite means that "your engine is running" and "you need to be hungry to burn fat". Tried to lose weight countless times, was always hungry and the weight always returned after I failed again (off course).
Decided to start cutting carbs (not exactly keto due to social reasons, but no sugar and as little carbs outside of shared meals as possible) and IF (just skipping breakfast for now) about 2-3 weeks ago and I think that for the first time in my life I'm not that hungry, I don't feel tempted to buy crisps and pastries in the supermarket and I have to use my calorie-counter to make sure I eat enough instead of not too much. The science makes sense to me too, I like having some understanding of what I'm doing when drastically restricting anything (biology student here, not specializing on physiology but I've had the basics at least), I came to the conclusion of high carb/low carb diets being a seasonal cycle myself and I'm glad to hear it confirmed.
If I keep feeling this way and keep losing weight steadily (lost like 2.5 kg since the start of april) this might finally be my answer to this mess :)
I use Bikmans mantra of Keto dieting
Control Carbs
Prioritize Proteins
Fill with Fat.
Try it. You will lose 1 pound/day
Think about it in terms of prehistory...we had to get up and go hunt for our first meal...our body tends to raise cortisol in the morning to help release glucose with glucagon ... our bodies provide our breakfast for us in a way...so anyone who says breakfast is the most important meal of the day is being dogmatic usually and not thinking...breakfast is neither really good nor really bad....it all depends on what gets you up and moving...you need to choose what is right for yourself :-)
I totally enjoy listening to this channel. The interviewer is informed, knowledgeable, and allows the guest to speak their train of thought. Great job as usual.
awesome interview. interviewer knows his stuff and is asking good questions. subscribed
Ha pastured liver is my favorite food as well! I'll fry a package up with high quality 🥓, and eat it cold with salt right out of the fridge.
A lot of “gurus” pedaling false info could learn from THIS interview! Thank You !
Found you from Dr Ken Barry. Amazing! Thank you. This is an area that needs a good science educator!!!
This guy is great.
gabrielantona indeed!
This video was by far, one of the best hours I've spent on TH-cam in a very long time.
best interview yet young mang.
Why thanks, Tim McCarthy!
Funniest part is it was filmed by my Uber driver with no camera 🎥 experience :-)
I was nervous how it would turn out, but think it came out well.
Cheers,
Mike
Thank you for the great talk! Everything you have been saying sound great, but I would like to add or maybe clarify that high-fat diet means healthy high fat diet and since he mentioned the Mediterranean diet, I would like to add that in the Mediterranean diet there are plenty "good" carbohydrates like legumes, fruits, and vegetables as well as limited meat and lots of "good" fats like olive oil, olives, eggs!
I'm eating Mediterranean Low carb OMAD and doing well. Love my routine!
great video, excellent quality of information coming straight from the researchers
Exactly, that's the goal Dani P!
No more he-said-she-said. Want to let the scientists share their work.
Cheers,
Mike
Amazing interview! I learned so much!!! I really appreciate that the interviewer asked great questions and then sat back and actually listened to the answers. One of the best interviews I've heard in a long time!
Thanks for that! Grateful to hear,
Mike
I really love this interview, lot of important information. Thank you. You are a very good health science talk.
Thanks so much, Red Led!
Maybe increased uncoupling during ketosis is because when there is a lot of dietary fat available, the body can afford to self-regulate temperature without shivering, and the same pathways getting activated during fasting is just a glitch.
Liver is pretty much the only food that actually makes my mouth water even though it is not even close to a favorite food. I always assumed there is something in it that I am severely lacking in my diet.
High intensity education. An interview i can come back to & learn more each time. thanks.
benjamin is awesome, thank you for this
One of the best videos I have ever seen on metabolism, fat burning, ketosis, brown fat and mitochondrial efficiency !!! well done both !! great thanks
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks, Sirwan.
Great interview with perfect questions. Well done and thanks for sharing
Can you or have you already covered consuming alcohol while on a ketogenic diet? Love the channel and thanks for all you do!
I also wonder how much that one glass of red wine spikes my insulin and for how long
Great video!!The talk about cold being so good for us remind me the wim hof method!Thanks
this has got to be my favorite interview with Dr Dikman, the insulin & ketone bipolarity finally made sense to me, thanks a billion to both of you!
@ 33:00 I'm interested in those redundancies he mentioned. Insulin alternatives (HGH, and certain Amino acids) to developing/maintaining muscle mass.
Wow. I started this video mostly because I have this mental "resistance" towards the idea of "brown fat" - I mean, fat is fat, right? BUT --- I ALSO know I'm stubborn and closed minded and NEED to WORK at keeping an open mind - so I watched this. And I'm SO GLAD I did. I just wish certain members of my family and friends network would watch but (like me) they are stubborn and closed minded (probably why we get along) and it's really hard to convince them to open their mind to a new angle. Great work, guys -- keep it coming! I want to know more about these studies!!
I wonder how this would apply to women in their menopausal stage of life.
High Intensity Health is exactly what I've been looking for! all presented with such authority! I'm obsessed with this channel!!!!
So interesting- thank you both so much for all this information. Great video!
Polyunsaturated fats- Damage the cells in your " pancreas "
PUFAs--short for "" polyunsaturated fats "
Blood Sugar - polyunsaturated fats damage the cells in your " pancreas " that produce insulin ! . If you want to lose body fat and achieve a high level of health, you want a very effective blood sugar handling system. PUFAs can damage this system. For those with blood sugar handling issues the primary focus is usually reduced sugar intake, however, I believe it makes more sense to reduce PUFAs from your diet.
Skin health - PUFAs are closely linked to age pigment formation. In addition, a high level of PUFA in your body means when you are exposed to the sun, free radical damage is more likely.
Metabolism - PUFAs can stress various systems in your body, particularly the rate at which your cells produce energy (i.e. your metabolism). This has numerous implications for thyroid health and general hormonal balance.
Digestion / Immune System - PUFAs can impair protein digestion. Digestion problems are rampant in this day and age, eliminating PUFAs are an often overlooked and very effective way at supporting digestion. Your immune system is closely linked to your digestive system, a problem with digestion almost guarantees a poorly functioning immune system.
Detoxification - The liver plays a major role in detoxification, polyunsaturated fats can overburden the liver. That sluggish feeling you feel after eating out? You may have just consumed polyunsaturated fats .
Where are polyunsaturated fats present?
PUFAs are present in nearly all foods (even vegetables). While some extremists would say to avoid high-PUFA vegetables I don't believe you need to go that far. Small amounts of unprocessed PUFA in a well balanced diet are unlikely to cause any issues.
The most damaging PUFAs are the processed liquid cooking oils below:
Canola oil, Grapseed Oil, Corn Oil, Soybean Oil, Generic Vegetable Oil,
Walnuts Oil, Cottonseed Oil, Sesame Oil, Peanut Oil, Margarine, Flaxseed Oil.
Foods and oils with very high amounts of polyunsaturated fats include :
Walnuts.
Sunflower seeds.
Flax seeds or flax oil.
Fish such as "salmon" , mackerel, herring, albacore tuna, and trout.
Corn oil.
Soybean oil.
Safflower oil.
.((( A R T I C L E ))
Unsaturated Vegetable Oils: Toxic ;
Such a lovely, clever, interesting gentleman. Lucky family!
In addition to the great quote, 'Eat to be lean, exercise to be fit', I think another should be from Peter Attia, 'Hormones drive fuel partition'!
If I understand correctly, elevated insulin lowers the metabolic rate by signaling to the liver not to produce ketones and instead store it as fat (or if the fat is over capacity, signal stem cells to make more fat cells)? Chronic hyperinsulinemia leads to an accumulation of ceramide and insulin resistance. Meanwhile, low insulin, signals ketone production, which causes white fat to behave like brown (uncoupling/beijing)? It's interesting to think about why the body, in times of famine/ketones, would want to burn excess energy as heat (20m10s).
Regarding how ketones and cold exposure activates brown fat (24m mark), has it been shown that people living in cold climates have more brown fat like newborns? Or is it that they have more beijing of white fat cells? Also, if the weaknesses of using rodent models is well understood, why not use canines? Isn't canine metabolism/digestion much more similar to humans?
Where are the links to the video mentioned at the 27m07s... or the study comparing time-restricted-feeding, ketogenic diet, and s.a.d. 35m45s?
Regarding how people are insulin insensitive (with respect to glucose metabolism) in the morning due to rising (antagonist) cortisol, 37m38s.. Chris Masterjohn has some great podcasts on insulin (ex. see comments in 'Why Insulin Doesn't Make Us Fat 2.26'), and seems to suggest people are *more insulin sensitive* in the morning. What am I missing?
Regarding how (exogenous) ketones are converted to fat in the presence of insulin (42m08s), why then does Dr. Bikman suggest that it may still help with those suffering from brain trauma/disorders?
Also like the part about how insulin and ketones *both* signal the production of glutathione antioxidants!
What a great interview. Dr. Ben is scarry knowledgable about his field. I truly appreciate the work that he and his colleagues do - thank goodness for them. How come they weren't around before I got Type II diabetes. But I am working hard to reverse that. And thank you for presenting your podcast - excellent.
I heard Dr Bickman once earlier this year during a recorded symposium. Great stuff then great stuff today :) I'm gonna go visit him :)
He's amazing indeed, imchepilo!
Thanks for that,
Mike
Dr. Robert Atkins(cardiologist) was teaching this from the 70s. Keto is nothing new or phenomenal. Yet the fact that he was a cardiologist he knew the limitations of his high fat version & the push back to it. Atkins 2.0 was a high protein version & it worked just as well with a better effect on testosterone & lipids.
So much information! Nom nom
Fantastic interview both questions and answers. I had to look up a lot of terms but I learned a lot about insulin. Thank you so much. I'm going to watch the 2nd interview next.
Has there been any updates on his studies he was conducting at the time of the interview?
Best video that High Intensity Health has ever done. Learning so much from Dr. Bikman. I am saving this to my favorites to watch again.
I still believe if we have fat to use as fuel then we should. Since we have accessibility to all fruit beans and grains year round. So therefore Ketosis makes sense all year round for humans now if people can do it. And breaking it during social times if desired.
The "Study of One" that you are in is better than all the crap studies that Big Food and Big Pharma can pay for! Jesus H. Christ, God bless him is still in the dark ages. I think they may start burning us at the stake if we don't fall in line with the eat less move more crap that has given the U.S. and now the rest of the world diabetes. Have a Coke and a smile!
Krista Zurawski See Butter Bob’s channel.
Loved this. Think this may have been one of your best interviews. This has so much content that really can explain all the components of Keto and how it all works together summed up really neatly. Keep up the good work!
Can't wait for results of newest research he talked about!!
Thank you! This was one of the best interviews I have seen in this realm. Ben is so clear in his explanations and I love that he is passionate about sharing the info more outside of the scientific circles. Thank you so much for this video! I learned a lot!
Great information thank you both!!
Bikman's great. You need to have him on as often as possible. Great stuff.
when i lived in minnesota i would go outside every morning regardless of temperature in my bare feet with no shirt on and stand for a minute or two to signal my body. then eat bacon and eggs for breakfast because i read about this brown fat stuff and i swear it helped me feel warmer throughout the day. try it if you live up north. I'm watching this video in a hurricane in south florida!
interesting! I've heard of this. Thanks for sharing.
lukusr be safe !!
Nice, grounding and cold exposure are immensely important for mitochondrial density
lukusr - indeed the evidence for cold shock therapy is building up ... also ref Ben Greenfield ....
www.70GoingOn100.com the Centenarian Diet, or maybe 128, the Hayflick limit, or if a Ray Kurzweil fan then this is a Moot Point …
thanks man ! we made it through!
Mike, thanks a ton for all the great discussions you have with physicians and scientists who care deeply about nutrition. I've learned a ton in the past few weeks watching. And your notes with time markers are a great plus. They help me remember why I liked a particular discussion and what I might want to review quickly.
Cool! You got Dr. Bikman!! Another Awesome interview Mike! We need to take Dr. Oz of the air and place this show there. : )
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Hahah, yeah someday. Thanks for subscribing and tuning in, Manuel De Leon!
Mike
Typically enjoy your interviews but this one was incredible! A wealth of information broken down for this layman. Thank you for putting out outstanding content.
Intermittent fasting is the only way I can lose weight now. Even super low carb doesn't do it.
Keto/low carb is fasting mimicking, so just do the real thing.
AnythingWithWheels Western food supply is poisoned.
@@dongrant810 actually. I am beginning to have the same issue. As a type2 diabetic for over 30 years, my insulin resistance is very strong. I've been doing intermittent fasting but just started 36 hour fasting. It's very hard because no matter what, my insulin rises but it's coming down gradually. If your really insulin resistant and have been that way for awhile aka years, then going to the next step may be necessary. Fasting and vertically zero carbs and no sugar or sugar substitutes. You have to break the sugar addiction. I'm working on my sugar addiction too. I've lost 46 lbs and hit a major plateau. Next step it is. Good luck.
@@dogcrazy25 best of luck to you brother stay strong 👍
Same, but I think I need to cut out all carbs at this point because IF and low carb isn't doing it anymore. I lost 10lbs but that's it. I've hit a plateau.
resistance weight training is great, but calisthenics training is great too. i do a few calisthenics movements a day to improve my altheticism and i'm willing to bet i can be more effective than doing weights. nothing better than learning how to move your body, engaging your mind and muscle to learn a new movement.
Great interview 👍
Thanks, as always, Mats Mathisen!
Mike
Thanks Mike! This is one of your better interviews. Excellent explanations, breakdowns, and sincerity.
Why not study bodybuilders, how they manipulate carbs and protein post workout with insulin and growth hormones. Also their use of dnp for fatloss and how it works on mitochondria and metabolism.
It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall with a round table talk with probodybuilders and these different metabolism and hormone researchers.
I think bodybuilders are still understudied. They were using low carb keto diets ever since the 50s but still not a lot of research on resistance training and ketosis. Dr. Jacob Wilson and Lawrey are just making it happen
Great point, Dan smith!
The variable there is the anabolics used in bodybuilding--are very ketogenic.
It's interesting for sure!
Cheers,
Mike
I think of bodybuilders as extreme, so makes them easier to study. Pro bodubuilders are said to use many drugs to manipulate timing of insilin and gh but dont seem to get fat from this insulin use. Im not advocating its use but think we may learn something from what they do.
Dan smith Almost no large bodybuilder has Type 2. See Kali Muscle channel. He even makes a cake out of Oreos and Cola and eats it. Huge muscle mass always burns up all excess glucose in the blood.
I could listen to Benjamin Bikman all day everyday.
Excellent video! thankyou! i would have like to hear his input if high protein limits ketosis. in my understanding its a misnomer. THanks for all you share on this channel!
It can kick you out of ketosis but it won't jeopardize keto-adaptation. The two are quite distinct. You may burn off that extra glucose via gluconeogenesis, thus suppressing ketones, but your brain will easily revert back to burning fat for fuel within a few hours
Thanks good man, Spencer-Mack!
We did address protein, see description for time-stamps :-)
Cheers,
Mike
Spencer, due to Autophagy, we recycle 70% of our proteins, an evolutionary adaptation to "Starvation". Excess proteins end up as ammonia a waste in urine. GNG is function that never allows glucose to go to Zero in Blood, reason "Fasting" 30-60 days works - another evolutionary adaptation. Humans - member of the Great Apes that Stores "Fat", we store limited carbs, we store fats and proteins, but proteins are last resort fuel - carbs very short term fuel - ketones and Starvation was our Normal State - Ref: Dr. Ohsumi - Autophagy
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Thank you for this interview Mike! Fantastic information from Dr. Bikman!
Thanks Deliana!
Mike
Wait a sec, Mike...about fat cells always being fat cells (6:25), what about what Dr. Cate Shanahan's said in her book Deep Nutrition. She talks about fat cells being able to change into other types of cells, known as "transdifferentiation" (chap 11, step 3) talking about fat cells being able to turn back into stem cells ("redifferentiation") and then into bone, muscle, or other cells.) Exercise can trigger this transdifferentiation by signaling muscle and bone growth.
Would fasting lead to fat cells browning and burning more fuel because of the rise in HGH and adrenalin? This way we can expend more energy to go out and hunt? I like the idea of it keeping us warm in colder times, when carbs are naturally scarce. We see fruits abundant in tropical zones, whereas the diet is more ketogenic in winter zone's and eating that way keeps the body burning warm. Would tropical native people contain more white fat, and northern cold zoned people contain more brown fat, and would those people epigenetically be able to brown their fat better when following generations depart to warmer weather? So very interesting, philosophically thinking.... The standard American diet has been so much like "summer" all year round.... people are not only learning about keto diets, but in a way we are all trying to force our bodies into "wintering" (from keto and cold exposure hacks) because our environments have become so controlled. Maybe one thing we could do to get back to the root underlying cause by just get rid of electricity... LOL ;)
yes, I have been talking about this with my sons for weeks now. Most nutrition is not science at all, but a marketing tool to make you buy more food. If most of us just ate one meal a day we would be healthy.
The standard American diet is not like summer. 90% of Americans don’t eat the recommended daily intake of fruit and vegetables. Most are deficient in fiber and that’s why you have high incidence of colon cancer and diverticulitis
The standard American diet is something new, processed sugary fatty food was absolutely not available back then.
Don Grant I agree...I ate OMAD but in a SAD way....was gaining slowly over 12 years....now I’m doing Keto and the weight is coming off pretty much at 0.9 lbs per week...next experiment will be carnivore to see how I fare eating just nutritious forms of meat
Megan Hantz, Health Coach I could be wrong...but brown fat tends to be really small in volume...like 1 or 2 shot glasses worth in the whole body....but white fat is always abundant and there tends to be pounds of it in most people...
Wish you would include a Carnivore diet along with the study between SAD and Keto diet study your working on.
i've had it. I'm so confused. every video I watch or article I read contradict in every possible way when it comes to nutrition. high fat, low fat, low car, high carb, vegan, paleo, balanced, fasting, keto, personalized diet based on gut bacteria and DNA. they all say different things. with every other science there is some kind of consensus. WHY NOT NUTRITION?????????????? WHY?
It may seem like that, but we're all saying the same thing pretty much: eat real food that's in season. If you want to balance blood sugar or lose weight, try low-carb or keto.
Thanks
Mike
I appreciate the reply, but I'd have to disagree here. Even when talking about clean food, the vegan community treats saturated fat like it's the plague and it will cause heart disease within seconds of consumption, where ketogenics and paleo supporters see it(saturated fat) as their main source of energy.
Slav Elenkov See Butter Bob’s channel.
@@SlavElenkov and not to mention their red meat CAUSES cancer mantra
Slav Elenkov because...you can eat many different ways and achieve results...but there are only a few ways to be truly healthy....that part is simple....natural whole foods and decent amounts of micronutrients....also athletes cover up a lot of damage with lots of exercise....but in the end it catches up with a lot of them and they retire and get fat...
Best way to eat and exercise is to do as little as possible but use the high intensity needed for healthy results....you can’t run an engine full speed for many many years....but if you don’t run it at all it will rust and die...you have to find a good medium...the more you push your body in shortest amount of time....the longer you will live.
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What sane human would down vote this? This is fantastic information, great interview!
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Thanks for that,
Mike
Please share. This needs to go viral.
Just watched this through for a second time. Excuse me while I go take a cold shower whilst being in a state of ketosis.