QUiiiii man thanks for that! Family owned and operated my friend. The Van's are headed north for Labor Day to ride a lil moto in the woods this weekend. - Van
Nothing wrong with that, my brother has a R6 and I have the 600rr, and we LOVE STG! Keep it up Van & Co,. You guys and gals provide serious quality work to the sportbike community.
Great to see you got your boy involved recently in the vids. Always great to watch these install vids. It's what got me into motorcycling. Thanks from Australia!
So what did you end up doing with the Ex-Up cables? I see towards the end of the video they're still just resting on the hugger. Awesome video. Thanks!
just got my M4 full system today for my 2020 R6 cant wait to install it but wont be for a few weeks sadly so i came here to hear what it would sound like again lol
I use some little pieces of blue painters tape to tape the bolts in the holes of the fairings after losing them so you don't have issues with which go where.
Hello Van, i was wondering if you could make a video on how to replace an oil pan or fix it My friend recently bought a 2009 R6 with low km but the previous owner over tightened the oil drain bolts and when we opened it we saw that the oil pan thread was stripped I know two ways 1. re-drill it and use a bigger size bolt 2. change the oil pan if you have any other idea it would be great and if you could show how to remove the oil pan without removing full exhaust system that would be great too thanks in advance
Hey van, about to dive into the Yoshimura AT2 system exhaust on my 2020 R6. This video is super detailed and I want to start by saying thank you for always having amazing content. My question is. I have the AT2, sprint filter, and a bauc racing tune to support the mods. When I delete the servo cables and system. Do I still need the servo buddy? Or can I just delete the system since I have the bauc tune? Thanks in advance, and cheers from Kentucky!
Thanks for watching! Max is a good kid and loves bikes for sure. He just did his first track day last weekend and earned a certificate to get his race license now. If he wants to ride he has to work, there will be a lot more videos with my lil buddy in them from here forward. - Van
I have a shitty memory so when I take the fairing fasteners out I usually make a little drawing on cardboard and stick them in the location they would be on the bike.
Great video Brain. Two question on this system. What did you do with the O2 cables? Looks like They still sitting there, you just tight them to the body? And if you don't want the O2 system How can you eliminate it?
Not sure if you are referring to the exhaust valve cables or the actual exhaust O2 sensors. If you are referring to the exhaust servo cables those are removed when the servo motor is removed and the servo eliminator is installed. If you are referring to the )2 sensors there are some ecu flashes that will eliminate the sensors so they can be removed from the bike. - Van
What do you think about getting a Sc project S1 with akrapovic headers? If I buy M4 full exhaust must I do something else like ECU or isn’t it necessary nothing else? Thanks and great video🤗
You are welcome and thank you for watching! Personally I would go with the M4 full system rather than piece items together from different brands. After installing the system you will need to install a servo eliminator to keep the check engine light off. I would recommend riding the bike after installing the system to see if you are happy with the performance. If you are there is no need to flash or install a fuel controller. Below is a link to the exhaust servo eliminator to keep the engine light off: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/skutrnet-yamaha-yzf-r6-02-17-exhaust-servo-buddy/ - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Just one more question about the performance. If I want to get the best perfomance, what should I do? It would be necessary to put the bike in a power bank? Hope you answer :D
Would like a Yamaha someday but wow the body removal and replacement seems so tedious compared to a ninja 250 😄😄. I imagine though doing it a few times would make it easier
Hello Brian, was that the cooper anti seize that you put a small dab on the header stud? You said silicon but I was not sure so thank you for the help!
That is some high temp Permatex, here is a link to it on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/permatex-ultra-copper-maximum-temperature-rtv-silicone-gasket-maker/
Hi there brian! Absolutely love the vids but was just curious why the full stainless system for the r6 is soo much cheaper than that on the gsxr 600? Cheers from NZ
I actually just bought this color scheme bike last week, I really like I look and sound of the m4 only thing holding me back on purchasing it is not knowing if I need to do something with the fuel delivery and if so which system to go with? Dealership told me if I put a full exhaust system on it and it leans out the motor wont be covered so I wanna prevent that at all cost, thanks for any info
want a full system Exhaust for a street build r6 in the future. Could you pls do a dB test and let me know if it idles lower than 94 which is the legal limit in Australia.
Hey Van, I installed this M4 exhaust close to a year ago now and put about 4000 miles with it on. As I have talked to people in the motorcycling world I have heard some people recommending a reflash tune on the motorcycle. I am a little timid with computer/electrical mods being done as it is out of my control and catastrophic failure is what keeps me from indulging. Is this something you would recommend? This exhaust sounds beautiful now that I have it on and the flames are wicked. Also thank you for all of your videos explaining the installs on this modifications. I don't think I would have the courage to work on my own bike if it wasn't for you. Aaron
Happy to hear the video was helpful and you are enjoying the system. If you are happy with the performance of your bike there is no reason to make any changes to the fuel mapping. Just save the money and enjoy your bike. - Van
Hey Brian, bought an sc projects slip on a few weeks ago and have been trying to find some titanium headers that will work with the slip on. Do you know if a slip on would fit? Really struggling to find some headers. Cheers mate!
You will need to find a set of headers compatible with the OEM slip on. I am not familiar with the SC products so I am unsure of whether it will work with another brand header. I would shoot SC an email asking this question. - Van
So would you technically need a power commander now?I recently just did the same thing with my 08 r6.same headers.cut off the cat.new mid pipe.two brothers exhaust.Would i need a power commander?
The Official Max Van Approval came to life when he did the R3 Hindle Exhaust install video with me. He asked if he could be the first one to start the bike, so I let him do it. When I saw that huge smile on his face it hit me that is how we all feel when we start our bike after installing a new exhaust on it. Doesn't matter how old you are, the excitement is the same for all of us. Motorcycles are awesome, the only thing better than the bikes themselves are the people who ride them. - Van
Hey STG, just a quick question. Im considering changing to this full system (slip-on) because right now I have the R6, mapped to my akrapovic full system, but it is not idling properly because of the pressure from the engine and I don't feel the whole power of the bike. However, when I mounted the original slip-on with akrapovic header, the bike ran SOO much better, probably because of less back pressure, and im considering changing to a sided slip-on like the one in the video and sell my long akrapovic slip-on I have right now. Would that also make a huge difference, and why does it run better with that slip-on instead of my akrapovic one? The bike felt more responsive and alive with "sided" slip-on. Thank you so much! 😊
Have you taken the bike to the dyno to verify what you are feeling? As long as the bike has been mapped for the full Akrapovic system it should not decrease the performance. Akra is one of the best exhaust brands in the world, known for producing good power. Before you spend anymore money take the bike to a tuner with the Akra system and have the map reviewed. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Hello Van, thank you for your response! My ECU has been flashed by a company in England and sent back to me in Sweden. The idling has been an issue for a long time, but it doesn't happen when I have the db killer installed. I like to enjoy the sound of my full system, that's why I don't use the db killer which results in the engine acting weird. However, using my original slip-on with my akrapovic header made my R6 run incredible good. That's why im considering buying a GP slip-on instead to the headers and sell my muffler from Akrapovic. Basically im just swapping to another akrapovic product. The reason why I want to do this is mainly because some of my friends have told me it could be the pressure from the engine causing it to run lean and therefore make my idling weird. The company could also adjust the ECU, but I don't think I will get as much power out of my full system. What are your thoughts on this? I appreciate your time Van! =)
@@sportbiketrackgear If you have the opportunity to watch my clip, that would be great! I'm showing how it is idling and you can clearly see it ain't right - th-cam.com/video/Dz2AexIaWRo/w-d-xo.html
Can you please tell me the cables that you took off the stock exhaust what do you do with them? I’m bout to put a two brothers exhaust on my 2018 R6 and I have those same exact cables just don’t know if I take them off or what.
That is the exhaust servo and cables. If the system you are installing has you removing the valve from the system (the thing the cables attach to) then you should remove the cables and servo. Once you do this you will need to install a Servo Buddy to turn the check engine light off. Here is a link to the Servo Buddy on our site (we have an install video for this): SkutrNet Yamaha YZF-R6 02-18 Exhaust Servo Buddy www.sportbiketrackgear.com/skutrnet-yamaha-yzf-r6-02-17-exhaust-servo-buddy/ - Brian Van
I emailed Yoshimura and they said they didn’t test fit any older version yoshimura full exhaust on the new R6’s (the ones with the full carbon can) do you guys know if any older generation full exhaust systems would fit the 17/18 r6?
Hi Brian, between this M4 full system and the Yoshimura Alpha T full system, which one do you think is louder? (I'd prefer the louder set up)? Thank you!
You can install the system and ride the bike without a tune. If you are happy with the performance just leave it. Not happy then you can get it tuned. - Van
I feel like they are pretty similar in sound levels. Pretty sure the Hindle system we installed was the EVO muffler and not their Megaphone muffler. Hindle offers a Megaphone full system for the R6 that is a little louder than this M4 system is. Here is a link to that on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/hindle-yamaha-yzf-r6-06-17-evo-megaphone-full-exhaust-system/ - Van
I have to admit I did not know you could like to s spot in the video. Thanks for posting this, just put the link in our Facebook post! All BS aside it is pretty cool to have Max involved at the shop now. Pretty sure his first word was motorcycle. - Van
M4 does not offer this muffler in a slip on at this time. Here are links to the slip ons they offer for this bikes on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/parts/yamaha/yzf-r6/2017/?_bc_fsnf=1&Department=Exhaust&brand=193 - Van
hi, i got the exact same exhaust as yours on 2018 r6. and the problem is my bike got 2 o2 sensor plug and the exhaust got only 1 on it. any suggestion on how do i plug in my o2 sensor?
@@sportbiketrackgear but here in Australia the R6 got 2 o2 sensor, oh and different size too, it's smaller than the one on yours. any suggestion i could plug that in? because im getting too much popping noise from the exhaust.
The flanges on an aftermarket exhaust system are different than the OEM. For this reason I would not use the OEM torque spec. This is not something I would use a torque wrench on. You need to make sure the nuts are threaded on evenly on both sides and tighten them until the flange just begins to bend (do not tighten until you can see a big bend in the flange). Once you have them all even add a dab of high temp silicone to the exposed threads to ensure they stay put and you are good to go. - Van
After changing the exhaust on my 2009 r6 the rear tire slides when turning, I checked the psi but that seem to be ok is there anything else that could be wrong???
You need to remove the exhaust servo and cables (BE SURE NOT TO TURN THE KEY ON OR START THE BIKE) then install the SkutrNet Yamaha YZF-R6 02-19 Exhaust Servo Buddy. This will keep the check engine light from coming on. Here is a link to this on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/skutrnet-yamaha-yzf-r6-02-17-exhaust-servo-buddy/ - Van
I am from Hong Kong and STG video is really nice and helpful for me to understand the motorbike Technic, all step was very clear and explain also very clear!! Very nice!!! Thank you for make that good video bro!!!
I want this exhaust for my 2016 R6 , I just don’t know which Ecu flashtune kit to buy off your website as you have a type 1 and type 3 & type 1 is more expensive but I don’t see the extra benefit from it
Personally I prefer the bench tune kit that allows you to flash the ECU at your desktop after removing it from the bike. With the bike side stuff you need to install the harness which takes a fair amount of work then you have to flash the bike in the garage or shop so you will most likely be on the wifi. Works better when you have a wired connection IMO. - Van
For sure the megaphone will be louder than this system. M4 did a really good job on this new R6 system. We are selling enough of them we keep one on the shelf here in our warehouse. - Van
The owner of this bike was having the ECU flashed after he picked up the bike. Not sure if you are talking about the oxygen sensor or the exhaust servo. You can eliminate both with an ECU flash. - Van
Sportbike Track Gear I just put a full exhaust on my bike and have the o2 sensor plugged up,. And planning to get a power commander, you think it’s best to flash the ecu or just map the power commander or do both, map and flash
The Street Slayer is a little louder than the full system, pretty close but a tickle louder. If you are building a track bike go with the full system, if you are riding the bike on the street go with the street slayer. - Van
Sportbike Track Gear yes the m4 gp can. I tried installing it and the only way I see that it would fit was by using a coupler. Which is why I was looking into getting a m4 pipe to change it half way.
You do not have to install a fuel controller if you prefer not to. To keep the check engine light off you will need the exhaust servo eliminator. Other than that install the system and ride the bike. If you are happy with the performance then leave it alone, want to get the maximum benefit install a fuel controller or flash the OEM ECU. Here is a link to the servo eliminator on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/skutrnet-yamaha-yzf-r6-02-17-exhaust-servo-buddy/ - Van
@@sportbiketrackgearhey there, is it alright to ride the bike a bit before doing the ecu flash? I’ve heard it will run lean and don’t want to risk any damage but I just want to ride it to the shop to do the flash. Thanks
I added a touch of high temp silicone to hold the nuts in place in the event one happens to come loose in the future. I do not add any grease to the threads. - Van
That really depends on where you ride. Personally I would stick with the muffler that comes with this system to keep the noise in check and get the best performance from the system. - Van
hmm i'm confused with 2 wires that at first it is installed at something beside the stock canister. After u install the m4 exhaust and turn on the bike, those 2 wires still on top of swing arm. Is it okay if u leave those 2 wires like that ?
Those are the exhaust servo cables, they attach to the exhaust flapper in the stock exhaust system and the servo motor in the tail. We shot another video installing the Skutrnet Sero Buddy on this R6 which allows us to remove the servo motor and cables from the bike without having a check engine light. th-cam.com/video/ngj1vznR5Ow/w-d-xo.html - Van
I typically suggest installing the system and riding the bike. If you are happy with the performance then leave it alone. Want to get the most out it then you need to flash the ECU or install a fuel controller. - Van
@@unknown-dw2qi You can either remove the entire Servo motor with the help of a servo buddy. But the easiest option is you can leave the cables dangling; just make sure you fasten them to your bike so they are flopping everywhere (make sure to fasten the black part of the cable, not the physical metal cable because that will restrict the wire from moving)
You remove the servo motor and cables then install a servo eliminator. Here is a link to that on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/skutrnet-yamaha-yzf-r6-02-17-exhaust-servo-buddy/ - Van
It is hard to make enough time to spend with the kids, I am blessed to be able to share this time with him for sure. Now that he can ride on the track we are able to ride dirt, track and snow as a family. Thanks to all who have supported STG over the years for making this happen! - Van
Hey Brian. Love your site and love your channel. SUBBED and I am a customer. I have a couple ?'s Sir. I have a Matte Black '17 R6. Does this or any FULL exhaust require a flash or programmer? I'm not doing a high flow air filter just yet. I would do the filter when I had the ecu flashed. I may do the M4 Bread box eliminator kit. I would do re-flash but it may take me a few months to get it done. Would a full exhaust make her run TO lean? Can the stock ECU make the needed A/F corrections with just a FULL exhaust done??? Also I just need the header. I have a Toce tip. Would you sell Just the header??? Thank you ride safe and God Bless. Btw. Love Max. Hahaha. His face esplains it all brutha. LOLOL So cool.
Thank you for all the kind words! If you want to put the full exhaust on the bike and get the tune done a little down the road it will not damage the bike. We have done this multiple times and never had an issue. If you want to use the Toce tip I would go with the M4 muffler box elim, no need to replace the entire header IMO. Thanks again! - Brian Van
Installing a good aftermarket system makes the bike look better, sound better, typically increases power and drops weight. Those are all good reasons IMO, especially the first 2! - Van
That is a good question man. The aftermarket systems fit from 2006-current, not sure if the OEM is the same. Try to Google the OEM part number for the previous and current gen bikes to see if they are the same. - Van
We show the servo removal in the Servo Buddy install video. Here is a link to that on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/skutrnet-yamaha-yzf-r6-02-17-exhaust-servo-buddy/#pv__tabs
To keep the engine light off you can either install an exhaust servo buddy or flash the ecu. Here is a link to the exhaust servo eliminator on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/skutrnet-yamaha-yzf-r6-02-17-exhaust-servo-buddy/
When installing a full system on this R6 you should do an ECU flash. Here is a link to this on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/flashtune-ecu-type-18-bench-tuner-kit-yamaha-yzf-r6-2017/ www.sportbiketrackgear.com/flashtune-ecu-type-8-bike-side-tune-kit-yamaha-yzf-r6-2017/
Could you possibly make a exhaust video for this? Like some flybys, pulls, and slower riding. This would really help me to decide if i want this exhaust or not. Thank you.
Eddy we did not get a check engine light after our install. Did you install the servo buddy before you started the bike? Try disconnecting the battery to clear the code and restart. If that does not work we would need the trouble code to be helpful. - Brian Van
Hey eddy think you can make a quick video of the exhaust sound outside, I want to hear more of the exhaust sounds from different angles before pulling the trigger on it . Thanks
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I don't have an r6 but any STG video is worth watching.
Thanks for the kind words and for watching, both are appreciated my friend! - Van
Jerry M same here lol!
Same!
STG Best in the industry!
QUiiiii man thanks for that! Family owned and operated my friend. The Van's are headed north for Labor Day to ride a lil moto in the woods this weekend. - Van
Nothing wrong with that, my brother has a R6 and I have the 600rr, and we LOVE STG!
Keep it up Van & Co,. You guys and gals provide serious quality work to the sportbike community.
Great to see you got your boy involved recently in the vids.
Always great to watch these install vids. It's what got me into motorcycling.
Thanks from Australia!
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
The kid know how to make it growl!
He is gifted for sure, a true motorcycle exhaust aficionado Mr Max Van is. - Van
Love these videos. This guy's tutorials are so good and well explained. 👍
Thank you for watching! - Van
So what did you end up doing with the Ex-Up cables? I see towards the end of the video they're still just resting on the hugger. Awesome video. Thanks!
Another awesome vid by the VanMan himself. I don’t even own an r6 but this was too good to pass up.
Thank you for watching and the kind words. - Van
I just used this video to install a full system to my 2018 R6 and talk about easy. Thank you💪
You are welcome and thanks for watching! - Van
Those cylinder/header springs are a fucking nightmare on the cbr. Van makes it look like he has so much room to work with.
I have been doing this a long time now. Everything gets easier with practice. - Van
Just ordered my m4 exhaust thanks to this video
You are welcome and enjoy the new exhaust system. - Van
just got my M4 full system today for my 2020 R6 cant wait to install it but wont be for a few weeks sadly so i came here to hear what it would sound like again lol
LOL enjoy the new system! - Van
I just love how you explain everything you do step by step.. thankyou
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
I use some little pieces of blue painters tape to tape the bolts in the holes of the fairings after losing them so you don't have issues with which go where.
That is an excellent idea, takes the guess work out. - Van
You're a great father, Van. Respect. Keep up the great content, long time subscriber and couldn't expect anything less.
Thanks for that man. I love what I do for a living but not as much as being a husband and father. - Van
Excellent video, guys! Greetings from Colombia. 🇨🇴 🇺🇸
Hello Van, i was wondering if you could make a video on how to replace an oil pan or fix it
My friend recently bought a 2009 R6 with low km but the previous owner over tightened the oil drain bolts and when we opened it we saw that the oil pan thread was stripped
I know two ways
1. re-drill it and use a bigger size bolt
2. change the oil pan
if you have any other idea it would be great and if you could show how to remove the oil pan without removing full exhaust system that would be great too
thanks in advance
I would suggest replacing the oil pan. This will be the most reliable solution to this problem. - Van
Wow looks and sounds amazing. You're making me want one!
You won't be disappointed. M4 is one of our best selling brands at STG. Makes power, made in the USA, priced fair and looks awesome. - Van
Hey van, about to dive into the Yoshimura AT2 system exhaust on my 2020 R6. This video is super detailed and I want to start by saying thank you for always having amazing content. My question is. I have the AT2, sprint filter, and a bauc racing tune to support the mods. When I delete the servo cables and system. Do I still need the servo buddy? Or can I just delete the system since I have the bauc tune? Thanks in advance, and cheers from Kentucky!
I would expect the Bauce racing tune to turn off the exhaust servo. You could shoot them a quick call to verify. - Van
Fab install video Brian, I enjoy watching your stuff, thanks, great tips to learn too. You two are like peas in a pod! Great to see, keep well guys.
Thanks for watching! Max is a good kid and loves bikes for sure. He just did his first track day last weekend and earned a certificate to get his race license now. If he wants to ride he has to work, there will be a lot more videos with my lil buddy in them from here forward. - Van
That was a really cool video.. Just earned yourself a subscriber.. Keep up the good work ☺️
Thanks for watching! - Van
I have a shitty memory so when I take the fairing fasteners out I usually make a little drawing on cardboard and stick them in the location they would be on the bike.
Another idea is to shoot some pics with your phone when you are working on the bike. - Van
Great video can you do an install video on a power commander v on this 2017 r6 bike?
Sorry, we no longer have this bike at the shop. It belongs to a local who left this with us over the winter. - Van
Great video Brain.
Two question on this system.
What did you do with the O2 cables? Looks like
They still sitting there, you just tight them to the body?
And if you don't want the O2 system How can you eliminate it?
Not sure if you are referring to the exhaust valve cables or the actual exhaust O2 sensors. If you are referring to the exhaust servo cables those are removed when the servo motor is removed and the servo eliminator is installed.
If you are referring to the )2 sensors there are some ecu flashes that will eliminate the sensors so they can be removed from the bike. - Van
Thanks Brain
What do you think about getting a Sc project S1 with akrapovic headers? If I buy M4 full exhaust must I do something else like ECU or isn’t it necessary nothing else? Thanks and great video🤗
You are welcome and thank you for watching! Personally I would go with the M4 full system rather than piece items together from different brands. After installing the system you will need to install a servo eliminator to keep the check engine light off. I would recommend riding the bike after installing the system to see if you are happy with the performance. If you are there is no need to flash or install a fuel controller. Below is a link to the exhaust servo eliminator to keep the engine light off:
www.sportbiketrackgear.com/skutrnet-yamaha-yzf-r6-02-17-exhaust-servo-buddy/
- Van
Sportbike Track Gear thank you so much! I appreciate your answer.
@@sportbiketrackgear Just one more question about the performance. If I want to get the best perfomance, what should I do? It would be necessary to put the bike in a power bank? Hope you answer :D
Would like a Yamaha someday but wow the body removal and replacement seems so tedious compared to a ninja 250 😄😄. I imagine though doing it a few times would make it easier
Installing a full exhaust system on a modern 4 cylinder is a bit more complicated than doing it on a Ninja 250/300 or a R3 for sure. - Van
Damn those popping from the exhaust is WOW 🔥
Bad ass for sure! - Van
Hello Brian, was that the cooper anti seize that you put a small dab on the header stud? You said silicon but I was not sure so thank you for the help!
That is some high temp Permatex, here is a link to it on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/permatex-ultra-copper-maximum-temperature-rtv-silicone-gasket-maker/
@@sportbiketrackgear Thank you!
Can anyone answer this question, why does street bikes required to have a catalytic converters and bikes like Harley’s don’t.?
I have no idea what a Harley comes equipped with from the factory. Hard to imagine it would pass emissions standards without a converter. - Van
If you remove both black servo cables off the pipe and install a slip on and decide to not remove them will that trip a code?
Yes it will still set a code. - Van
Hi there brian! Absolutely love the vids but was just curious why the full stainless system for the r6 is soo much cheaper than that on the gsxr 600? Cheers from NZ
Thanks for watching. I am sure M4 has some formula they use to find the retail price based on time to build and materials used. - Van
What did you do to the wire connected to the slip on stock exhaust. ? Did the system show a error ? Or you have to do a ecu reflash ?
You can install a servo eliminator or do an ecu flash. Either one will work. - Van
I actually just bought this color scheme bike last week, I really like I look and sound of the m4 only thing holding me back on purchasing it is not knowing if I need to do something with the fuel delivery and if so which system to go with? Dealership told me if I put a full exhaust system on it and it leans out the motor wont be covered so I wanna prevent that at all cost, thanks for any info
want a full system Exhaust for a street build r6 in the future. Could you pls do a dB test and let me know if it idles lower than 94 which is the legal limit in Australia.
How much would an install like this cost estimated if I provided the exuast kit looks pretty expensive 😯
That really depends on the shop you take it to. I would expect at least 2 hours labor with most shops being over 100$ per flat rate hour. - Van
this Kid lives the dream of any biker out there... wish i had that :D
A hard life the boy lives for sure! He is a good and works for the opportunities that come his way. - Van
Hey Van, I installed this M4 exhaust close to a year ago now and put about 4000 miles with it on. As I have talked to people in the motorcycling world I have heard some people recommending a reflash tune on the motorcycle. I am a little timid with computer/electrical mods being done as it is out of my control and catastrophic failure is what keeps me from indulging. Is this something you would recommend? This exhaust sounds beautiful now that I have it on and the flames are wicked. Also thank you for all of your videos explaining the installs on this modifications. I don't think I would have the courage to work on my own bike if it wasn't for you.
Aaron
Happy to hear the video was helpful and you are enjoying the system. If you are happy with the performance of your bike there is no reason to make any changes to the fuel mapping. Just save the money and enjoy your bike. - Van
Hey Brian, bought an sc projects slip on a few weeks ago and have been trying to find some titanium headers that will work with the slip on. Do you know if a slip on would fit? Really struggling to find some headers. Cheers mate!
You will need to find a set of headers compatible with the OEM slip on. I am not familiar with the SC products so I am unsure of whether it will work with another brand header. I would shoot SC an email asking this question. - Van
I am buying an R6 for this video. Thanks for the zoom in details very clear . : )
So would you technically need a power commander now?I recently just did the same thing with my 08 r6.same headers.cut off the cat.new mid pipe.two brothers exhaust.Would i need a power commander?
The smile says it all.
The Official Max Van Approval came to life when he did the R3 Hindle Exhaust install video with me. He asked if he could be the first one to start the bike, so I let him do it. When I saw that huge smile on his face it hit me that is how we all feel when we start our bike after installing a new exhaust on it. Doesn't matter how old you are, the excitement is the same for all of us. Motorcycles are awesome, the only thing better than the bikes themselves are the people who ride them. - Van
Hey STG, just a quick question. Im considering changing to this full system (slip-on) because right now I have the R6, mapped to my akrapovic full system, but it is not idling properly because of the pressure from the engine and I don't feel the whole power of the bike. However, when I mounted the original slip-on with akrapovic header, the bike ran SOO much better, probably because of less back pressure, and im considering changing to a sided slip-on like the one in the video and sell my long akrapovic slip-on I have right now. Would that also make a huge difference, and why does it run better with that slip-on instead of my akrapovic one? The bike felt more responsive and alive with "sided" slip-on. Thank you so much! 😊
Have you taken the bike to the dyno to verify what you are feeling? As long as the bike has been mapped for the full Akrapovic system it should not decrease the performance. Akra is one of the best exhaust brands in the world, known for producing good power. Before you spend anymore money take the bike to a tuner with the Akra system and have the map reviewed. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Hello Van, thank you for your response! My ECU has been flashed by a company in England and sent back to me in Sweden. The idling has been an issue for a long time, but it doesn't happen when I have the db killer installed. I like to enjoy the sound of my full system, that's why I don't use the db killer which results in the engine acting weird. However, using my original slip-on with my akrapovic header made my R6 run incredible good. That's why im considering buying a GP slip-on instead to the headers and sell my muffler from Akrapovic. Basically im just swapping to another akrapovic product. The reason why I want to do this is mainly because some of my friends have told me it could be the pressure from the engine causing it to run lean and therefore make my idling weird. The company could also adjust the ECU, but I don't think I will get as much power out of my full system. What are your thoughts on this? I appreciate your time Van! =)
@@sportbiketrackgear If you have the opportunity to watch my clip, that would be great! I'm showing how it is idling and you can clearly see it ain't right - th-cam.com/video/Dz2AexIaWRo/w-d-xo.html
Execelnte trabajo amigo saludos desde Perú 🇵🇪
Thank you for watching - Van
Can you please tell me the cables that you took off the stock exhaust what do you do with them? I’m bout to put a two brothers exhaust on my 2018 R6 and I have those same exact cables just don’t know if I take them off or what.
That is the exhaust servo and cables. If the system you are installing has you removing the valve from the system (the thing the cables attach to) then you should remove the cables and servo. Once you do this you will need to install a Servo Buddy to turn the check engine light off. Here is a link to the Servo Buddy on our site (we have an install video for this):
SkutrNet Yamaha YZF-R6 02-18 Exhaust Servo Buddy
www.sportbiketrackgear.com/skutrnet-yamaha-yzf-r6-02-17-exhaust-servo-buddy/
- Brian Van
Sportbike Track Gear ok thanks a lot
I emailed Yoshimura and they said they didn’t test fit any older version yoshimura full exhaust on the new R6’s (the ones with the full carbon can) do you guys know if any older generation full exhaust systems would fit the 17/18 r6?
Hi Brian, between this M4 full system and the Yoshimura Alpha T full system, which one do you think is louder? (I'd prefer the louder set up)? Thank you!
I think the M4 pipe will be louder than the Yosh. - Van
If i keep the O2 sensor after install that full exhaust system, do i need tune or its ok ride without tune?
You can install the system and ride the bike without a tune. If you are happy with the performance just leave it. Not happy then you can get it tuned. - Van
Hey Brian what would you say is louder between this exhaust and the Hindle full system you installed on the 2008 r6?
I feel like they are pretty similar in sound levels. Pretty sure the Hindle system we installed was the EVO muffler and not their Megaphone muffler. Hindle offers a Megaphone full system for the R6 that is a little louder than this M4 system is. Here is a link to that on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/hindle-yamaha-yzf-r6-06-17-evo-megaphone-full-exhaust-system/ - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear cool thanks!
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You'll thank me later.
I have to admit I did not know you could like to s spot in the video. Thanks for posting this, just put the link in our Facebook post! All BS aside it is pretty cool to have Max involved at the shop now. Pretty sure his first word was motorcycle. - Van
Sportbike Track Gear great well explained video though, if I had this bike and wanted a full exhaust system you just saved me £150 haha
Is it possible to just change the slip on, not the whole exhaust?
M4 does not offer this muffler in a slip on at this time. Here are links to the slip ons they offer for this bikes on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/parts/yamaha/yzf-r6/2017/?_bc_fsnf=1&Department=Exhaust&brand=193 - Van
What's a typical price range for hiring a mechanic or going to a shop for this specific job? thanks!
Most shops have a flat rate somewhere around $100 per hour. - Van
hi, i got the exact same exhaust as yours on 2018 r6. and the problem is my bike got 2 o2 sensor plug and the exhaust got only 1 on it. any suggestion on how do i plug in my o2 sensor?
I just got off the phone with M4 and the R6 only has one exhaust sensor. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear but here in Australia the R6 got 2 o2 sensor, oh and different size too, it's smaller than the one on yours. any suggestion i could plug that in? because im getting too much popping noise from the exhaust.
@SportbikeTrackGear what are the torque stock specs when tightened the flange for the M4?
The flanges on an aftermarket exhaust system are different than the OEM. For this reason I would not use the OEM torque spec. This is not something I would use a torque wrench on. You need to make sure the nuts are threaded on evenly on both sides and tighten them until the flange just begins to bend (do not tighten until you can see a big bend in the flange). Once you have them all even add a dab of high temp silicone to the exposed threads to ensure they stay put and you are good to go. - Van
Sportbike Track Gear thank you again!
After changing the exhaust on my 2009 r6 the rear tire slides when turning, I checked the psi but that seem to be ok is there anything else that could be wrong???
The exhaust install should not have anything to do with the rear tire spinning. Check the tire pressure and condition of the tire. - Van
What are the torque specs on the bolts for the flanges for the header pipes?
Hey! What do I do with the servo cables? I was really curious to what you did with it for a clean, no error code technic. THANKS
You need to remove the exhaust servo and cables (BE SURE NOT TO TURN THE KEY ON OR START THE BIKE) then install the SkutrNet Yamaha YZF-R6 02-19 Exhaust Servo Buddy. This will keep the check engine light from coming on. Here is a link to this on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/skutrnet-yamaha-yzf-r6-02-17-exhaust-servo-buddy/ - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Much appreciated! will do! Thanks
I am from Hong Kong and STG video is really nice and helpful for me to understand the motorbike Technic, all step was very clear and explain also very clear!! Very nice!!! Thank you for make that good video bro!!!
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Brian Van
I want this exhaust for my 2016 R6 , I just don’t know which Ecu flashtune kit to buy off your website as you have a type 1 and type 3 & type 1 is more expensive but I don’t see the extra benefit from it
Personally I prefer the bench tune kit that allows you to flash the ECU at your desktop after removing it from the bike. With the bike side stuff you need to install the harness which takes a fair amount of work then you have to flash the bike in the garage or shop so you will most likely be on the wifi. Works better when you have a wired connection IMO. - Van
Quick question: If I eliminate the o2 sensor, will I get engine light on?
Yes you will get an engine light if you do that unless you flash the ecu and eliminate the O2. - Van
Great video! I'm torn between this exhaust and the Hindle Megaphone for my 17 R6. Do you think the megaphone would be much louder?
For sure the megaphone will be louder than this system. M4 did a really good job on this new R6 system. We are selling enough of them we keep one on the shelf here in our warehouse. - Van
Thanks for the reply. I guess the M4 is the way to go for me. I'll be sure to get it from you guys when I have the cash!
Why not using sensor eliminator plug isn’t the bike gonna run different and check engine light come on?
The owner of this bike was having the ECU flashed after he picked up the bike. Not sure if you are talking about the oxygen sensor or the exhaust servo. You can eliminate both with an ECU flash. - Van
Sportbike Track Gear is there any software to download to flash ecu? or do we need to go to a motorcycle tuner?
Sportbike Track Gear I just put a full exhaust on my bike and have the o2 sensor plugged up,. And planning to get a power commander, you think it’s best to flash the ecu or just map the power commander or do both, map and flash
Which one do you prefer, the m4 street slayer Y-pipe and the m4 full-system?
Which sound is louder?
The Street Slayer is a little louder than the full system, pretty close but a tickle louder. If you are building a track bike go with the full system, if you are riding the bike on the street go with the street slayer. - Van
Thank you so much
I have this exhaust with the headers but i tried changing the canister and it’s to big! I just purchased the m4 y pipe will that fit the headers?
If you have the full M4 system for this bike the can should fit the headers. Are you trying to install a different can on the M4 headers? - Van
Sportbike Track Gear yes the m4 gp can. I tried installing it and the only way I see that it would fit was by using a coupler. Which is why I was looking into getting a m4 pipe to change it half way.
And what are all the tools/sizes did you use
Sorry this is an older video now and I do not remember. With all the projects we do most everything can be done with common hand tools. - Van
One question sir,
do I need a power commander with a full exhaust & an air filter? I have R6 19 please I need your advice.
You do not have to install a fuel controller if you prefer not to. To keep the check engine light off you will need the exhaust servo eliminator. Other than that install the system and ride the bike. If you are happy with the performance then leave it alone, want to get the maximum benefit install a fuel controller or flash the OEM ECU. Here is a link to the servo eliminator on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/skutrnet-yamaha-yzf-r6-02-17-exhaust-servo-buddy/ - Van
Sportbike Track Gear thank you bro
@@sportbiketrackgearhey there, is it alright to ride the bike a bit before doing the ecu flash? I’ve heard it will run lean and don’t want to risk any damage but I just want to ride it to the shop to do the flash. Thanks
Where do the gaskets go in relation to the spigots
Between the cylinder head and the spigot. - Van
What is the grease that you add to the flange nuts?
I added a touch of high temp silicone to hold the nuts in place in the event one happens to come loose in the future. I do not add any grease to the threads. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Thank you, I actually found the a tube of that on the site. Thanks!
Is that flames stock? What’s done to the bike? Want this exhaust!
That is just some unburnt fuel igniting on decel. Bike is pretty much stock beyond the M4 exhaust. - Van
Would the M4 GP Slip on with a header be too loud for trackdays? Same bike
That really depends on where you ride. Personally I would stick with the muffler that comes with this system to keep the noise in check and get the best performance from the system. - Van
hmm i'm confused with 2 wires that at first it is installed at something beside the stock canister. After u install the m4 exhaust and turn on the bike, those 2 wires still on top of swing arm. Is it okay if u leave those 2 wires like that ?
Those are the exhaust servo cables, they attach to the exhaust flapper in the stock exhaust system and the servo motor in the tail. We shot another video installing the Skutrnet Sero Buddy on this R6 which allows us to remove the servo motor and cables from the bike without having a check engine light. th-cam.com/video/ngj1vznR5Ow/w-d-xo.html - Van
What’s the best power commander map to run with this exhaust?
IMO any of the full system maps will do a great job. If you are racing at a high level you should take the bike to a tuner and have a map built. - Van
Do you need a power commander when you switch the exhaust???
I typically suggest installing the system and riding the bike. If you are happy with the performance then leave it alone. Want to get the most out it then you need to flash the ECU or install a fuel controller. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear what do I do with the servo cables left behind if I just leave it alone or while I get a fuel controller?
@@unknown-dw2qi You can either remove the entire Servo motor with the help of a servo buddy. But the easiest option is you can leave the cables dangling; just make sure you fasten them to your bike so they are flopping everywhere (make sure to fasten the black part of the cable, not the physical metal cable because that will restrict the wire from moving)
So what do you do with those 2 servo cables?
You remove the servo motor and cables then install a servo eliminator. Here is a link to that on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/skutrnet-yamaha-yzf-r6-02-17-exhaust-servo-buddy/ - Van
Son learning a lot from dad, awesome and priceless!! Great video!
It is hard to make enough time to spend with the kids, I am blessed to be able to share this time with him for sure. Now that he can ride on the track we are able to ride dirt, track and snow as a family. Thanks to all who have supported STG over the years for making this happen! - Van
Now it just needs to be tuned to that exhaust to get rid of the backfire.
Sounds Great !
Will this work on a Yamaha R6s 2008??
No this system will not fit the R6s as that is a totally different model. - Van
can the muffler replaced it with other slip on?
No this pipe is designed to work with the M4 muffler. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear is there any m4 optional header on the market?
What did you do with the servo cable?
This bike was going to be flashed which would take care of the engine light. Once the cable and servo are removed they hit the garbage can. - Van
Heard that these shorty exhaust systems are getting scraped at extreme lean angles (i.e by advanced track day riders)
is that true ? Great video btw
The only system I know of that creates a lean angle issue is the M4 15-17 Street Slayer system which will touch at extreme angles. - Van
thanks for the info van! so in this case, the two bros exhaust is safe to use for the R1 and R6 right ? (even at extreme angles)
I can not say 100% on those 2 models, I would assume so. I know you are good to go with M4 and other brands we do a lot with. - Van
Is this the titanium one?
No this is the stainless steel version. - Van
Hey Brian. Love your site and love your channel. SUBBED and I am a customer. I have a couple ?'s Sir. I have a Matte Black '17 R6. Does this or any FULL exhaust require a flash or programmer? I'm not doing a high flow air filter just yet. I would do the filter when I had the ecu flashed. I may do the M4 Bread box eliminator kit. I would do re-flash but it may take me a few months to get it done. Would a full exhaust make her run TO lean? Can the stock ECU make the needed A/F corrections with just a FULL exhaust done??? Also I just need the header. I have a Toce tip. Would you sell Just the header??? Thank you ride safe and God Bless. Btw. Love Max. Hahaha. His face esplains it all brutha. LOLOL So cool.
Thank you for all the kind words! If you want to put the full exhaust on the bike and get the tune done a little down the road it will not damage the bike. We have done this multiple times and never had an issue. If you want to use the Toce tip I would go with the M4 muffler box elim, no need to replace the entire header IMO. Thanks again! - Brian Van
Awesome. Thanks for the help Brian. Appreciate you brotha.
Where is the valve line hidden?
The exhaust servo and valve are 100% removed from the bike after installing the full system. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear ok nice
Can you access the coils from where the headers are?
No you will need to pull the tank and the airbox to access the ignition coils. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear oh I see. I'm looking to install my quick shifter and need to plug the coil harness in.
Good video 👍
Thank you for watching! - Van
What is the purpose of replacing a stock full exhaust with an aftermarket besides weight reduction?
Installing a good aftermarket system makes the bike look better, sound better, typically increases power and drops weight. Those are all good reasons IMO, especially the first 2! - Van
Hey, does anyone know if the r6 2006-2016 stock full exhaist is tje same of the 2017 r6
That is a good question man. The aftermarket systems fit from 2006-current, not sure if the OEM is the same. Try to Google the OEM part number for the previous and current gen bikes to see if they are the same. - Van
Good video I’m def gonna follow your steps when installing mine
Happy to help out. - Van
Where do the servo wires go? its kinda just hanging on your tire hugger.
We show the servo removal in the Servo Buddy install video. Here is a link to that on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/skutrnet-yamaha-yzf-r6-02-17-exhaust-servo-buddy/#pv__tabs
What did you do with the servo?
To keep the engine light off you can either install an exhaust servo buddy or flash the ecu. Here is a link to the exhaust servo eliminator on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/skutrnet-yamaha-yzf-r6-02-17-exhaust-servo-buddy/
Bro you are wear a really nice shirt I love thise
Thank you! - Van
hey bro does he have a fuel management ? do you need one ?
When installing a full system on this R6 you should do an ECU flash. Here is a link to this on our site:
www.sportbiketrackgear.com/flashtune-ecu-type-18-bench-tuner-kit-yamaha-yzf-r6-2017/
www.sportbiketrackgear.com/flashtune-ecu-type-8-bike-side-tune-kit-yamaha-yzf-r6-2017/
I would like to see and akrapovic in titanium
Really enjoyed watching that video and learned many things from it thanks.
Could you possibly make a exhaust video for this? Like some flybys, pulls, and slower riding. This would really help me to decide if i want this exhaust or not. Thank you.
It would of gone in easier if they flanges were left loose and tightened in the end.
exactly, so he didn't have to caveman it and risk bending or expanding his header diameter. lol
I got this exhaust and it sounds great and installed the servo buddy, but the check engine light came on, is there anything I could do to fix this ?
Eddy we did not get a check engine light after our install. Did you install the servo buddy before you started the bike? Try disconnecting the battery to clear the code and restart. If that does not work we would need the trouble code to be helpful. - Brian Van
Hey eddy think you can make a quick video of the exhaust sound outside, I want to hear more of the exhaust sounds from different angles before pulling the trigger on it . Thanks
I have an 2017 yamaha r6! The question is...why i have to many problems with the clutch?
What problems are you having with the clutch on your bike? Perhaps we can help. - Van
Thanks for make this video, now i can install it by myself 👍🏻
No worries and thanks for watching! - Brian Van
M4 she sing a nice note for 2017 R6😍
Does this bike have a ecu flash at time of the exhaust installation?
What a dumbass question
nice work