I am from Greece and as I see there are completely and utterly two different worlds upon this island and this issue in general! Greek Cypriots say that they did nothing to Turkish Cypriots in 1963 and that the latter started first! The Turkish Cypriots say the opposite. The Greek Cypriots say that this was an invasion resulting to occupation and Turkish people say that this was a Peace Operation. The Greek Cypriots say that a lot of families were decimated and the rest of the people became refugees on their own land, while the Turkish say the same, for the opposite outcome! As long as the two different cultures deny to reconcile with each other on social- religion status (and of course, as a result on an economic basis), the solution is not approachable! What defines a country from others is nationality and religion (for religious people which believe that state and religion come together-Not me.:)). But Cyprus is a big exception! It has two different nations, two different religions and two different cultures far away from each other and hostile one another! Of course then unification and equality can not be on the advantage of one community against the other, but to all people who have the Cyprus Citizenship. Two different cultures but one culture above all which will dictate that everyone has equal rights regardless their ethnicity, religion etc. This case that the citizenship be above the ethnicity, and above the term 'Greek & Turkish Cypriots' be the term 'Cypriots. Like the USA, which is a mosaic of cultures and above all is the Federal State, no matter who is from where! Taking into account that Nicosia is the only divided capital in the world, makes solution to be, more than ever, obligatory! And Greek with Turkish Cypriots will have equal benefits to each other living in a European free country with no barricades and no division!
Doğru söylüyorsun fakat Kıbrıslı Rumlar 63 olaylarından önce anayasayı değiştirmek isteyip Kıbrıslı Türklerin eşit haklara sahip olmadığını,tüm devlet kademelerinden alınmaları gerektiğini,kısacası ya Türkiye’ye göç etmelerini ya da yok olup gitmeleri gerektiğini düşündüler ve akritas planıyla bunu uygulamaya çalıştılar.Daha öncesinde EOKA nın yaptıklarını zaten biliyorsun.Türkler ne yapmalıydı ? Kendilerini savunmayıp ölümü mü beklemeliydi?Türk ordusu ne yapmalıydı? Öldürülmelerine izin mi verseydi ?
User misin nesin yalan konuşuyorsun bir ara Kıbrıs birleşimi diye refaradum yapıldı türkler tek devlet eşit haklara evet dediler Yunan tarafı hayır oyu verdi burdanda belli oluyorki Yunan tarafı yalan söylüyor ve savaştan önce katliam yaptınız biz Birleşmiş milletlere baş vurduk eğer katliamı durdurmasaniz biz durduracağız ve katliamı BM de durdurması türk askeri girdi okadar bizde istemezdim iki halkın bir birini öldurmeyi zatende adı üstünde barış harekedi siz Yunan olarak daha iyi bilmelisiniz Yunanistan Kıbrıslı yunanlari saldirganlastirdi silahlandirdi ozaman sizde askeri cunta vardı türkleri yok edecektiniz yalan konuşmayı bırakın biz Yunanlar düsman değiliz sizde doğru olun
Ο Εόκα, που ξεκίνησε την τρομοκρατία το 1955, ήθελε την ένωση, όχι την ανεξαρτησία, φυσικά, στόχευσε και τους Τούρκους που δεν ήθελαν Ένωσις έξω από την Ένωσις, μπορείς να μας σκοτώσεις κι εμάς;" Η δημοκρατία ιδρύθηκε το 1960. Αλλά οι Έλληνες έβλεπαν πάντα τους Τούρκους ως μειονότητα και ήθελαν να μην τους παραχωρηθούν ίσα δικαιώματα ιθαγένειας Το 1963, επιχείρησαν γενοκτονία με το σχέδιο Ακρίτας το νησί για να προστατέψεις τους Τούρκους με βάση τις συμφωνίες Ποιος είναι ο γείτονας, έλα να σου αγοράσω ένα τοστ;
From one point of view we , Greeks , must learn how the turkish state propagandizes .... let us say : the Armenians in early 20th century were not slaughtered by the turks , perhaps they killed themselves in groups....
Turks put all blame on EOKA in order to justify ethnic cleansing and stealing of property from Greek Cypriots, and continued unjustified illegal occupation. No one is buying Turkish fake narrative. That's why no one has recognized so-called "TRNC"
Long live the Turkish Cypriots! So many butt hurt people on here, the matter of fact is we ruled the island, Greeks have never ever! Yes you have been inhabitants of the island but never ruled it 😂 even now! Like the Venetians use to say, the Greeks were peasants on the island.
@@jackdoe3889 no hatred in my comment, it’s just pure facts. You don’t know the amount of hate and abuse I have faced growing up, all because I’m a turk of Cyprus.
@@Musthecrazygooner Hatred AND ridicule. Plus you are wrong. I live in Cyprus and know a lot more than you think. Assuming a total stranger knows nothing is yet another mistake you make. Just some food for thought. Kolay Gelsin.
I find it very funny that Greeks come to this series and comment about forgetting the past and using the “We are all Cypriots” jargon 😂😂😂 That might have worked in the 50s (still highly unlikely) but it’s definitely too late now!
Wake up..man 120.000 , more than the 1/3 from your population own a Cyprus Republic..ID. More than 80.000 of yours are owners of the Republic of Cyprus..passport YET, you all want to fight against it. Ridiculous isn't it .
@@andrigeogiou8420and yet Tatar won the election. Enosis failed Taksim defacto succeeded. Oh and I’m not a Turk greekoid I just find your failure funny 😂😂😂
Lol...that is something that only Turks saying. There is NOTHING to feel proud as Turk, only shame. For more information look in history pages... The real one, not your countrys propaganda fairytales to hide your past...
Ben bu okula gittim , ruhum bir acayyip oldu bu okulda , video izledim bu okulda . İnsanları yakmışlar bir çukura gömmüşlerdi , ALLAH bu Rumlar’a bir daha fırsat vermesin inşallah.
These is a biased representation of the events. There is half truth, the whole story is not told! Atrocities happened to both sides and both suffered. You should be ashamed! I stopped watching .... I am a refuge of this war and haven't seen my home in 49 years and live in a foreign country. We lost everything including family and friends. Both Turkey and England should leave Cyprus and take their armies with them and let the 2 communities live in peace. I cannot believe the cowardice of the British and the arrogance to still occupy almost 100 square miles of land to selfishly use the island... Give us back our land. GO HOME!!Don't use our island as a military base! A country of 85 million attack a country of barely a million and with the support of the US and Britain..You are not brave just bigger!!
Costa bunu başta düsünecektin Kıbrıslı türkkere saldirmiyacaktiniz göt Amerika'ya göt ingilize güvendiniz biz ise NATO usünu kapatik size girdik artık yalan atmayın ayreten refarandum yapıldı Kıbrıs birlesinmi diye türk tarafı evet dedi siz hayır dediniz neden hayır dediniz anan planına madem dogruysaniz yalan konuşmayın
@@formulaaaaaaaaaaaaaaIt would be also silly idea for the Greek world to think that Tùrkiye will ever leave the island to become another Greek island. Dreams if Enosis have been put to deep sleep by Tùrkiye. This is the reality of today, since 1974.
Turkey had the right to intervene and restore peace and the Constitution but not to partition the island, set up another government and start bringing settlers over from Turkey against the wishes of the Turkish Cypriots.
Histoire des Turcs: Deux mille ans du Pacifique à la méditerranée, Jean-Paul Roux They came from the northern forests, brave, messy, ingenious and just at the beginning of the journey. They first spread to the steppe, then to the interior of China, and then to the west like a flood with no end in sight!.:" Although these tribes, families and tribes, which went down in history as Turks, are mostly symbols of barbarism in the eyes of Westerners, they established one of the high civilizations of Central Asia and intercultural peace and tranquillity within the borders of sometimes small states and sometimes huge empires. Sometimes they were mamluks, sometimes they were masters, and sometimes they were each other's fiercest enemies. Have they ever given up on the religion they believed in from the very beginning, how much of a Buddhist, how much of a Christian, how much of a Jew and how much of a Muslim did they become? Was their only desire throughout all these centuries, all those wars, plunders, conquests, conversions and displayed wisdom, just to achieve peace and tranquillity? These Turks, Khalajs, Hiong-nus, Ottomans, Mamluks, Russians, Chagataids, Tu-kiu, Seljuks, Chinese, Indians, Karakoyunlu, Timurs, Arabs, Kazan, Tatars, Bulgarians, Turks, Huns, Kipchaks, Armenians, Pechenegs It is the story of the Safavids, the Ghaznavids, the Bayats, the Greeks, the Uzbeks, the Khitans, the Persians, the Ikhshids, the Tolunids, the Kurds, the Yakuts, the Kyrgyz, the Azerbaijanis, the Mongols, that is, the rights that shared geography for centuries, the alliances and discords, that is, the story of the day in which we actually lived geography for centuries. . After Death in the Altai Turks, Sacred Plants and Animals in Central Asia, History of the Mongol Empire, Central Asia: History and Civilization, The Old Religion of the Turks and Mongols, the famous Turkologist Jean-Paul Roux takes you on a journey through 2000 years of history, what you think you know. invites you to witness events, people and beliefs that you have no idea about...
shut up,,,,,,,,you guys used turkish ID card for 400 years, and than talk like that,,,,,, the biggest barbar are the western world, and his litle puppets like greeks...look at youre colonies than talk about barbarism......
The Ottomans defeated the Venetians and conquered Cyprus. All of Cyprus belongs to Turkiye. The British moved the Greeks to the island starting from the 1900s and took the lands of the Turks!!
So turks can invade and create a "northern cyrus" a country where no country except turkey recognized but if armenians do it nagarno karabakh, the turks loae their mind
Turkish Cypriots, are only the 18% of the islands population. What they mean ,asking about .." equality " Like ..50 -50 .? The 18% to share everything in half woth the 82%.? Does Turkey, gives to the 34% of the Kurdish population similar rights .? r
The fact that the majority of the island's population is Greek or that the Greeks came to the island before the Turks does not justify the Greeks trying to commit genocide against the Turks. Currently, the majority of the island consists of Turks.
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I am from Greece and as I see there are completely and utterly two different worlds upon this island and this issue in general! Greek Cypriots say that they did nothing to Turkish Cypriots in 1963 and that the latter started first! The Turkish Cypriots say the opposite. The Greek Cypriots say that this was an invasion resulting to occupation and Turkish people say that this was a Peace Operation. The Greek Cypriots say that a lot of families were decimated and the rest of the people became refugees on their own land, while the Turkish say the same, for the opposite outcome!
As long as the two different cultures deny to reconcile with each other on social- religion status (and of course, as a result on an economic basis), the solution is not approachable! What defines a country from others is nationality and religion (for religious people which believe that state and religion come together-Not me.:)). But Cyprus is a big exception! It has two different nations, two different religions and two different cultures far away from each other and hostile one another! Of course then unification and equality can not be on the advantage of one community against the other, but to all people who have the Cyprus Citizenship. Two different cultures but one culture above all which will dictate that everyone has equal rights regardless their ethnicity, religion etc. This case that the citizenship be above the ethnicity, and above the term 'Greek & Turkish Cypriots' be the term 'Cypriots. Like the USA, which is a mosaic of cultures and above all is the Federal State, no matter who is from where! Taking into account that Nicosia is the only divided capital in the world, makes solution to be, more than ever, obligatory! And Greek with Turkish Cypriots will have equal benefits to each other living in a European free country with no barricades and no division!
Doğru söylüyorsun fakat Kıbrıslı Rumlar 63 olaylarından önce anayasayı değiştirmek isteyip Kıbrıslı Türklerin eşit haklara sahip olmadığını,tüm devlet kademelerinden alınmaları gerektiğini,kısacası ya Türkiye’ye göç etmelerini ya da yok olup gitmeleri gerektiğini düşündüler ve akritas planıyla bunu uygulamaya çalıştılar.Daha öncesinde EOKA nın yaptıklarını zaten biliyorsun.Türkler ne yapmalıydı ? Kendilerini savunmayıp ölümü mü beklemeliydi?Türk ordusu ne yapmalıydı? Öldürülmelerine izin mi verseydi ?
Juh greket nuk juh rrine BYTHA REHATE. Edheh neh Epir keni bere krime kunder Cameve mysliman. Historia nuk Harrohet.
I see but after 50 years the most reliable agreement is establishing two-states. We can live as neiu
User misin nesin yalan konuşuyorsun bir ara Kıbrıs birleşimi diye refaradum yapıldı türkler tek devlet eşit haklara evet dediler Yunan tarafı hayır oyu verdi burdanda belli oluyorki Yunan tarafı yalan söylüyor ve savaştan önce katliam yaptınız biz Birleşmiş milletlere baş vurduk eğer katliamı durdurmasaniz biz durduracağız ve katliamı BM de durdurması türk askeri girdi okadar bizde istemezdim iki halkın bir birini öldurmeyi zatende adı üstünde barış harekedi siz Yunan olarak daha iyi bilmelisiniz Yunanistan Kıbrıslı yunanlari saldirganlastirdi silahlandirdi ozaman sizde askeri cunta vardı türkleri yok edecektiniz yalan konuşmayı bırakın biz Yunanlar düsman değiliz sizde doğru olun
Ο Εόκα, που ξεκίνησε την τρομοκρατία το 1955, ήθελε την ένωση, όχι την ανεξαρτησία, φυσικά, στόχευσε και τους Τούρκους που δεν ήθελαν Ένωσις έξω από την Ένωσις, μπορείς να μας σκοτώσεις κι εμάς;"
Η δημοκρατία ιδρύθηκε το 1960. Αλλά οι Έλληνες έβλεπαν πάντα τους Τούρκους ως μειονότητα και ήθελαν να μην τους παραχωρηθούν ίσα δικαιώματα ιθαγένειας Το 1963, επιχείρησαν γενοκτονία με το σχέδιο Ακρίτας το νησί για να προστατέψεις τους Τούρκους με βάση τις συμφωνίες Ποιος είναι ο γείτονας, έλα να σου αγοράσω ένα τοστ;
From one point of view we , Greeks , must learn how the turkish state propagandizes .... let us say : the Armenians in early 20th century were not slaughtered by the turks , perhaps they killed themselves in groups....
and still today in 2023 the Greeks still say they did nothing wrong, and are the victims of Turkies aggression, i love living here in the TRNC....
Turks put all blame on EOKA in order to justify ethnic cleansing and stealing of property from Greek Cypriots, and continued unjustified illegal occupation.
No one is buying Turkish fake narrative. That's why no one has recognized so-called "TRNC"
shut your mouth malaka
@lovingman41
And how is that ?
You enjoy living in our stolen lands and properties ?
How ,you really feel about it ?
Long live the Turkish Cypriots! So many butt hurt people on here, the matter of fact is we ruled the island, Greeks have never ever! Yes you have been inhabitants of the island but never ruled it 😂 even now! Like the Venetians use to say, the Greeks were peasants on the island.
Spreading hatred only makes matters worse.
@@jackdoe3889 no hatred in my comment, it’s just pure facts.
You don’t know the amount of hate and abuse I have faced growing up, all because I’m a turk of Cyprus.
@@Musthecrazygooner Hatred AND ridicule.
Plus you are wrong. I live in Cyprus and know a lot more than you think.
Assuming a total stranger knows nothing is yet another mistake you make.
Just some food for thought.
Kolay Gelsin.
@@jackdoe3889 I’ve lived in Cyprus, my family lives in Cyprus, so I don’t get you’re point?
Sanada Kolay gelsin.
@@Musthecrazygooner Clearly you do not.
Textbook example of why the CYprob remains unresolved.
I find it very funny that Greeks come to this series and comment about forgetting the past and using the “We are all Cypriots” jargon 😂😂😂 That might have worked in the 50s (still highly unlikely) but it’s definitely too late now!
Turks started it on Cyprus
Wake up..man
120.000 , more than the 1/3 from your population own a Cyprus Republic..ID.
More than 80.000 of yours are owners of the Republic of Cyprus..passport
YET,
you all want to fight against it.
Ridiculous isn't it .
@@andrigeogiou8420and yet Tatar won the election. Enosis failed Taksim defacto succeeded. Oh and I’m not a Turk greekoid I just find your failure funny 😂😂😂
@@tombuddy100They finished it you mean!
@@Calmzat They both started and finished it. It was a setup.
ne mutlu turkum diyene
Lol...that is something that only Turks saying.
There is NOTHING to feel proud as Turk, only shame.
For more information look in history pages...
The real one, not your countrys propaganda fairytales to hide your past...
Ben bu okula gittim , ruhum bir acayyip oldu bu okulda , video izledim bu okulda . İnsanları yakmışlar bir çukura gömmüşlerdi , ALLAH bu Rumlar’a bir daha fırsat vermesin inşallah.
" Ayşe can go on vacation " ahahahahaaa...
I ❤️ Turkiye from Bangladesh 🇧🇩..
The coward delete his own comment to erase mine.
Truth hurts isnt it?
That will be a lesson to you and anybody like you...
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Petros kostantinov😂😂😂
turkiye
These is a biased representation of the events. There is half truth, the whole story is not told! Atrocities happened to both sides and both suffered. You should be ashamed! I stopped watching .... I am a refuge of this war and haven't seen my home in 49 years and live in a foreign country. We lost everything including family and friends. Both Turkey and England should leave Cyprus and take their armies with them and let the 2 communities live in peace. I cannot believe the cowardice of the British and the arrogance to still occupy almost 100 square miles of land to selfishly use the island... Give us back our land. GO HOME!!Don't use our island as a military base! A country of 85 million attack a country of barely a million and with the support of the US and Britain..You are not brave just bigger!!
Costa bunu başta düsünecektin Kıbrıslı türkkere saldirmiyacaktiniz göt Amerika'ya göt ingilize güvendiniz biz ise NATO usünu kapatik size girdik artık yalan atmayın ayreten refarandum yapıldı Kıbrıs birlesinmi diye türk tarafı evet dedi siz hayır dediniz neden hayır dediniz anan planına madem dogruysaniz yalan konuşmayın
let the 2 communities live in peace. ahahahahaaaaa,Can you read history ??? Do you know Grivas and Nicos ??? you lost in 1974 and Turks won ...
@@formulaaaaaaaaaaaaaaIt would be also silly idea for the Greek world to think that Tùrkiye will ever leave the island to become another Greek island. Dreams if Enosis have been put to deep sleep by Tùrkiye. This is the reality of today, since 1974.
Turkey had the right to intervene and restore peace and the Constitution but not to partition the island, set up another government and start bringing settlers over from Turkey against the wishes of the Turkish Cypriots.
UR SICK MAN ,, SEE A DOCTOR
Histoire des Turcs: Deux mille ans du Pacifique à la méditerranée, Jean-Paul Roux
They came from the northern forests, brave, messy, ingenious and just at the beginning of the journey. They first spread to the steppe, then to the interior of China, and then to the west like a flood with no end in sight!.:"
Although these tribes, families and tribes, which went down in history as Turks, are mostly symbols of barbarism in the eyes of Westerners, they established one of the high civilizations of Central Asia and intercultural peace and tranquillity within the borders of sometimes small states and sometimes huge empires. Sometimes they were mamluks, sometimes they were masters, and sometimes they were each other's fiercest enemies. Have they ever given up on the religion they believed in from the very beginning, how much of a Buddhist, how much of a Christian, how much of a Jew and how much of a Muslim did they become? Was their only desire throughout all these centuries, all those wars, plunders, conquests, conversions and displayed wisdom, just to achieve peace and tranquillity?
These Turks, Khalajs, Hiong-nus, Ottomans, Mamluks, Russians, Chagataids, Tu-kiu, Seljuks, Chinese, Indians, Karakoyunlu, Timurs, Arabs, Kazan, Tatars, Bulgarians, Turks, Huns, Kipchaks, Armenians, Pechenegs It is the story of the Safavids, the Ghaznavids, the Bayats, the Greeks, the Uzbeks, the Khitans, the Persians, the Ikhshids, the Tolunids, the Kurds, the Yakuts, the Kyrgyz, the Azerbaijanis, the Mongols, that is, the rights that shared geography for centuries, the alliances and discords, that is, the story of the day in which we actually lived geography for centuries. .
After Death in the Altai Turks, Sacred Plants and Animals in Central Asia, History of the Mongol Empire, Central Asia: History and Civilization, The Old Religion of the Turks and Mongols, the famous Turkologist Jean-Paul Roux takes you on a journey through 2000 years of history, what you think you know. invites you to witness events, people and beliefs that you have no idea about...
shut up,,,,,,,,you guys used turkish ID card for 400 years, and than talk like that,,,,,, the biggest barbar are the western world, and his litle puppets like greeks...look at youre colonies than talk about barbarism......
Turkish Propaganda
this is only the turkish view, why didn't you present the Greek view??? because you are afraid!
The Ottomans defeated the Venetians and conquered Cyprus. All of Cyprus belongs to Turkiye. The British moved the Greeks to the island starting from the 1900s and took the lands of the Turks!!
@@bodoslama3567 you can say whatever you want this may be even true, but numbers say that 80% of cypriots are of Greek origin and only 20% turkish so…
Interesting, but coming from the Turkish side it is to be taken with a big pinch of salt, because very likely biaised.
Keep delete comments...😂
So turks can invade and create a "northern cyrus" a country where no country except turkey recognized but if armenians do it nagarno karabakh, the turks loae their mind
Right? XD
You forget there have been turks living on the island for over 500 years and it was part of the ottoman empire so think first what u write
@@halilhakki2451 and armenians were living in karabakh for the same time frame? What's your point?
@@manotenkerian my point is the turk have been the for 509 years they have a right to live in peace so the Greeks
@halilhakki2451 what about armenians in karabakh? Also, why doenst any country recognize North cypris?
Cyprus for Greece🇬🇷
Gaza,Jerusalem and Palestine for Palestinians.
TÜRKİYE 🇹🇷 AZERBAYCAN 🇦🇿
Turkish Cypriots, are only the 18% of the islands population.
What they mean ,asking about .." equality "
Like ..50 -50 .?
The 18% to share everything in half woth the 82%.?
Does Turkey, gives to the 34% of the Kurdish population similar rights .?
r
The fact that the majority of the island's population is Greek or that the Greeks came to the island before the Turks does not justify the Greeks trying to commit genocide against the Turks. Currently, the majority of the island consists of Turks.
Türkiye 🇹🇷 ❤
@@BirolMert-pd3tt YASASIN TURKIYE
Yaptığınız katliamların cezası olarak yüzde kırkını aldık adanın
Propaganda video for Cyprus part 8046...
P.S. dont forget to delete comments...you know.
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