At 2:35.. that's Lebron.. I love that they're using him as a prime example here because he constantly gets away with this in NBA.. this is one of the many reasons he scores so much: because he has an advantage on the defender by taking extra steps with the ball in his hands..
FANTASTIC. I CANT WAIT TO SEND THIS TO ALL THE GUYS WHO TRAVEL CONSTANTLY AND THINK THE KNOW THE RULES. Please make more, especially on charging. Great job. .
if anyone calls these a travel in my HS games, I will ask to no longer work with them. also, you can lift your pivot foot as long as you do not land it before the ball is released. this video is rediculous
the NBA has different rules, while dribbling allows a gather step then a two court. basically allowing two steps after you pick up the ball.(roughly 3 steps total). On the 3 step you either have to be shooting or passing the ball
6:15 should be a violation of travelling. Let's carefully look at the original text of FIBA Rules 25.2.1: "To pass or shoot for a goal, the player may jump off a pivot foot, but neither foot may be returned to the court before the ball is released from the hand(s)." The common misunderstanding is the phrase "jump off a pivot foot", which means to jump from the pivot foot. There is a difference between "lifted" and "jump off". Assuming the right foot is the pivot foot, the movement in the video is: take a step with the left foot, lift the right foot, jump off the left foot, release the ball, and land with both feet. The key is that the jump-off is conducted by the left foot only, while the right foot is only lifted and does not participate in the jump-off. Therefore, this movement is a violation of travelling. The rule allows jumping off the pivot foot, which means the following movement is allowed: take a step with the left foot, jump off both feet, release the ball, and land with both feet. The difference is that the pivot foot is involved in the jump-off in the this movement, which satisfies the requirement of "jump off a pivot foot" in the rule. Therefore, this movement is a legit move that is commonly known globally and recognized as legit move. We are not prohibiting jumping off one foot, but rather taking care of the condition of "jumping off the pivot foot". NBA is another story.
This is the only vid anyone should ever need re the pivot foot. You can always lift the pivot. You can then pass, shoot or even call time out as long as you do so before the pivot comes back down again. The pivot is step 1! Lifting it isn’t a violation. The non pivot is step 2! Lifting it is not a violation. Landing either one before the ball is released is step 3! and a violation.
Let's say that you receive the ball and your right foot is closer to the basket, so you lift your left foot and take a step, then raise your pivot foot, layup. I guess that if you are moving and you want to do a right hand layup, you should have your left foot on the floor and then take one step. If you receive the ball with the right foot on the floor bounce once and do the layup (left, right).
I feel that the amount of uncalled tripping resulting in a called travelling is more of a problem in today's basketball as opposed to the amount of uncalled travelling.
The plays on 5:57and 6:34 are traveling moves. You can lift a pivot only in a jump, both feet or jumping in the pivot. If you make a step lifting a pivot you are traveling. FIBA art. 25.2.2, NCAA art. 4 and NBA: Traveling: To start a dribble after establishing a pivot foot, the ball must be released from the player’s hand before his pivot foot leaves the floor or he has committed a traveling violation. DAMN Im good!!
You are so wrong, the first play was not a traveling move because his left was his pivot and he dribbles before he lifted the left foot and when it comes for him to take a shot he can lift a foot up when making a "SHOT". The second play it was not even close to a travel she did not dribble she went straight up, she can do that.
Bryan Davila Technically, he's not taking a shot (or pass) when he lifts his pivot, he's taking another step (or half step however u want to interpret it) then he's shooting, which is a violation.
This is officially FIBA dvd crap. The narrator says the girl has both feet on the ground when her left foot is clearly in the air, so her pivot foot is her right and cannot be her left, as he claims.
Congratulations, you have completely misunderstood the narrator. He said "the pivot foot cannot be put down before the ball is released," at least 20 times.
I haven't got that far, but at 1:04 the narrator declares the player receiving a pass has his foot touching the floor, and the call is correct, when you can clearly see the foot lands only after he's received the pass, and the ref got it wrong. They actually used this in a video about how to make the correct call -- Unbelievable!
Let me correct myself: The call is correct (that foot DOES become the pivot, and the player IS late initiating his dribble) but the narration is total BS.
...and to answer the original question, no, both feet do NOT hit the floor at the same time at 9:25. It's traveling by FIBA rules (but not by current NBA rules that allow two steps after picking up the dribble) but that has nothing to do with the jump stop rule the narrator is yammering about.
yes, because after you raise your first foot off the ground the other one become automatically a pivot foot, then that foot cannot hit the ground once you lifted it because it would be a travel. it is allowed to raise your pivot foot when you release the ball for a shot or a pass but as soon as you get back to the ground the ball must not be in your hands
Under FIBA rules, yes. Under rewritten (poorly written) NBA rules, you get two (and a "half", ie a jump) "steps" (jump stop is one "step") after picking up your dribble. So Harden picking up his dribble with both feet on the ground, maybe pausing, then taking two long steps before jumping to shoot is... actually legal, crazy as that looks and sounds, and is.
The analysis of the play at 9:07 feels a little questionable. The claim is made that both feet hit the floor simultaneously, but they seem to be staggered to me. He makes a spin not a hop step. Typically feet come down 1-2 on a spin move as they do there.
....oh, and in actuality feet NEVER come down simultaneously, though sometimes they come down so close together in time that no ref could decide which hit first. But Physics (here Newtonian - Einsteinian problems with simultaneity are not here relevant) and the near-infinite divisibility of time tell you there's a time interval.
nba is disgusting with travels, carries, defense. and the new generation thinks they are superstars better than the past players at least back then - they played the rules with dignity
Well if you have not noticed, some parts were in Athens and the USA Olympic basketball team were playing. I'm pretty sure Jason Kidd, Kobe, LeBron, Carmelo Deron Williams and Dwight played.
Actually I take it back. LeBron IS in ONE example, but he's not wearing number 6. He's wearing 9. That's what threw me off. But these are mostly old tapes, because AI and KG are on the same team, and that only happened in 2000. But they did use one 2004 game, so you're right. #9 though, not #6.
I read many great opinions on the net about how Spovelax Training Program (do a google search) can help you to improve your basketball skills, has anyone tried using this popular popular training course?
As expert, I do believe Spovelax Training Program can be great way to improve your basketball skills. Why don't you give it a chance? perhaps it's going to work for you too.
i need to have this video saved on my phone all the time...
yeah nba refs should have this as manditory class.
Traveling rules in the NBA are written differently than in HS and college. What is defined as traveling in HS and college is not traveling in the NBA.
At 2:35.. that's Lebron.. I love that they're using him as a prime example here because he constantly gets away with this in NBA.. this is one of the many reasons he scores so much: because he has an advantage on the defender by taking extra steps with the ball in his hands..
FANTASTIC. I CANT WAIT TO SEND THIS TO ALL THE GUYS WHO TRAVEL CONSTANTLY AND THINK THE KNOW THE RULES. Please make more, especially on charging. Great job. .
if anyone calls these a travel in my HS games, I will ask to no longer work with them. also, you can lift your pivot foot as long as you do not land it before the ball is released. this video is rediculous
the NBA has different rules, while dribbling allows a gather step then a two court. basically allowing two steps after you pick up the ball.(roughly 3 steps total). On the 3 step you either have to be shooting or passing the ball
6:15 should be a violation of travelling.
Let's carefully look at the original text of FIBA Rules 25.2.1: "To pass or shoot for a goal, the player may jump off a pivot foot, but neither foot may be returned to the court before the ball is released from the hand(s)."
The common misunderstanding is the phrase "jump off a pivot foot", which means to jump from the pivot foot. There is a difference between "lifted" and "jump off". Assuming the right foot is the pivot foot, the movement in the video is: take a step with the left foot, lift the right foot, jump off the left foot, release the ball, and land with both feet. The key is that the jump-off is conducted by the left foot only, while the right foot is only lifted and does not participate in the jump-off. Therefore, this movement is a violation of travelling.
The rule allows jumping off the pivot foot, which means the following movement is allowed: take a step with the left foot, jump off both feet, release the ball, and land with both feet. The difference is that the pivot foot is involved in the jump-off in the this movement, which satisfies the requirement of "jump off a pivot foot" in the rule. Therefore, this movement is a legit move that is commonly known globally and recognized as legit move. We are not prohibiting jumping off one foot, but rather taking care of the condition of "jumping off the pivot foot".
NBA is another story.
This is the only vid anyone should ever need re the pivot foot. You can always lift the pivot. You can then pass, shoot or even call time out as long as you do so before the pivot comes back down again. The pivot is step 1! Lifting it isn’t a violation. The non pivot is step 2! Lifting it is not a violation. Landing either one before the ball is released is step 3! and a violation.
Every NBA ref should be required to watch this video daily.
5:42 is a great example.
Let's say that you receive the ball and your right foot is closer to the basket, so you lift your left foot and take a step, then raise your pivot foot, layup.
I guess that if you are moving and you want to do a right hand layup, you should have your left foot on the floor and then take one step. If you receive the ball with the right foot on the floor bounce once and do the layup (left, right).
Narrator is correct. Depends on if player is starting a dribble or shooting/passing.
Well always, of course. And that’s what confuses people, they don’t know the full rule, they only know the dribble rule.
I feel that the amount of uncalled tripping resulting in a called travelling is more of a problem in today's basketball as opposed to the amount of uncalled travelling.
So one quick question though and this is not a joke. Lebron's crab dribble is really a travel, a stutter step or drop step??
Players who take 3 step lay up surely disagree with these.
I agree all of these. Very good video.
Incredibly informative. Where are the rest?
Note that Lebron plays in NBA, this video is about FIBA rules.
depends what your pivot foot is
The NBA needs these rules
They don't call traveling in the NBA.
+Brian Collins coz it never happens ,
nah i dont even know aye its frustrating
The plays on 5:57and 6:34 are traveling moves. You can lift a pivot only in a jump, both feet or jumping in the pivot. If you make a step lifting a pivot you are traveling. FIBA art. 25.2.2, NCAA art. 4 and NBA: Traveling:
To start a dribble after establishing a pivot foot, the ball must be released from the player’s hand before his pivot foot leaves the floor or he has committed a traveling violation. DAMN Im good!!
You are so wrong, the first play was not a traveling move because his left was his pivot and he dribbles before he lifted the left foot and when it comes for him to take a shot he can lift a foot up when making a "SHOT". The second play it was not even close to a travel she did not dribble she went straight up, she can do that.
This is an offical FIBA dvd these aren't travels
Bryan Davila Technically, he's not taking a shot (or pass) when he lifts his pivot, he's taking another step (or half step however u want to interpret it) then he's shooting, which is a violation.
This is officially FIBA dvd crap. The narrator says the girl has both feet on the ground when her left foot is clearly in the air, so her pivot foot is her right and cannot be her left, as he claims.
But he wasn't starting a dribble, he was shooting. If he had dribbled it would have been a travel. The rules are different for dribbling and shooting.
you are right there are travelling
Guys, beware this video does not include the gather step since......time travel isn't made yet
LeBron's travel in Athenas (2004)
The amount of travels allowed in the NBA consistently is insane but the rules for FIBA and stuff are just annoying
is it a travel when i pump fake and left my pivot foot on the ground but the other is in the air??
Chess Lewis it's legal, because you're piviting.
Rules are the same. It's just that NBA players don't know the rules, and NBA refs don't care (or don't know the rules...)
so if i catch the ball in motion and take my 2 steps and shoot a layup all without dribbling is that a travel?
no
05:55
12:31 "Let's take it step by step..."
For what? That guy clearly went for a marathon without dribbling.
Congratulations, you have completely misunderstood the narrator.
He said "the pivot foot cannot be put down before the ball is released," at least 20 times.
Whats the song in the video 0:15
at around 10mins, do his feet actually hit the floor at the same time ?
I haven't got that far, but at 1:04 the narrator declares the player receiving a pass has his foot touching the floor, and the call is correct, when you can clearly see the foot lands only after he's received the pass, and the ref got it wrong. They actually used this in a video about how to make the correct call -- Unbelievable!
Let me correct myself: The call is correct (that foot DOES become the pivot, and the player IS late initiating his dribble) but the narration is total BS.
...and to answer the original question, no, both feet do NOT hit the floor at the same time at 9:25. It's traveling by FIBA rules (but not by current NBA rules that allow two steps after picking up the dribble) but that has nothing to do with the jump stop rule the narrator is yammering about.
Lol just do what makes sense lol while on the court cus if you think about it you will create a violation!
I wonder how many miss travels this guy would call out from NBA refs? NBA refs suck big time.
NBA refs LITERALLY have a different rulebook.
is it travel if i pause and grab ball not (not any steps taken) then take 2 steps and lay up?
yes, because after you raise your first foot off the ground the other one become automatically a pivot foot, then that foot cannot hit the ground once you lifted it because it would be a travel. it is allowed to raise your pivot foot when you release the ball for a shot or a pass but as soon as you get back to the ground the ball must not be in your hands
Under FIBA rules, yes. Under rewritten (poorly written) NBA rules, you get two (and a "half", ie a jump) "steps" (jump stop is one "step") after picking up your dribble. So Harden picking up his dribble with both feet on the ground, maybe pausing, then taking two long steps before jumping to shoot is... actually legal, crazy as that looks and sounds, and is.
Andrew Phillips he tricked defenders into fouling by this so so many times notorius
NBA refs should watch this video... they seem to have no clue about this "travelling" business...
i understand now thank you
LOL...hey it not about what you see. It's about what the "3 professional officials" on the court with him views and calls.
great work
The analysis of the play at 9:07 feels a little questionable. The claim is made that both feet hit the floor simultaneously, but they seem to be staggered to me. He makes a spin not a hop step. Typically feet come down 1-2 on a spin move as they do there.
He also gets it wrong at 1:04, but it IS traveling both times.
....oh, and in actuality feet NEVER come down simultaneously, though sometimes they come down so close together in time that no ref could decide which hit first. But Physics (here Newtonian - Einsteinian problems with simultaneity are not here relevant) and the near-infinite divisibility of time tell you there's a time interval.
nba is disgusting with travels, carries, defense. and the new generation thinks they are superstars better than the past players
at least back then - they played the rules with dignity
can i go for a layup with 2 steps immediately after receiving the ball without bouncing the ball
Yes
Yes of course. You get two.
The narrator is totally wrong. It's not a travel when they pick up their pivot, only when they put it down.
Not on the dribble it isn’t, he’s correct.
Thanks
haha nice informing video...and all women teams should have the uniforms that the green team has at 6:49 haha
6:15 is it legal?
Şahin Onur HÜKÜMEN yes
you have to secure the ball
Lebron seems to be in many of these examples, he is number "6" right?
No. This is all international basketball. LeBron isn't in any example here.
Well if you have not noticed, some parts were in Athens and the USA Olympic basketball team were playing. I'm pretty sure Jason Kidd, Kobe, LeBron, Carmelo Deron Williams and Dwight played.
Actually I take it back. LeBron IS in ONE example, but he's not wearing number 6. He's wearing 9. That's what threw me off. But these are mostly old tapes, because AI and KG are on the same team, and that only happened in 2000. But they did use one 2004 game, so you're right. #9 though, not #6.
Oh did not know
How is 3:40 not a travel the rules are garbage, she jump stops then moves
So difficult to see all of this in such a small amount of time. Game's too fast.
on the last play even of the player fall on both feets is not a travel
if*
Enkuunee Oyukaa On FIBA rules yes
Lebron James dosent understand this video
This is wrong. 0 1 2 is not considered here
yes
dude ive seen lebron take 4 or 5 steps
i thought you could take 2 steps in nba?
If youre going in for a lay up yes you can
There is no such limitation ("for a lay up") in the NBA rules.
bill baggins you get two steps to dribble pass or shoot i believe after catching the ball
I read many great opinions on the net
about how Spovelax Training Program
(do a google search) can help you to
improve your basketball skills, has
anyone tried using this popular popular
training course?
As expert, I do believe Spovelax Training Program can be great way to improve your basketball skills. Why don't you give it a chance? perhaps it's going to work for you too.
shame!!!!!
wrong! lol
This guy knows crap
Found the LeBron fan