I've Never Heard This Type Of Music Before! Vocal Coach reacts to The Epic Of Gilgamesh In Sumerian
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Vocal Coach reacts to reaction to analyses analyzes analysis of breaks down The Epic Of Gilgamesh In Sumerian - Peter Pringle
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Peter Pringle is a Canadian musician and television personality, who is also known for his performances of ancient epics and poems on his TH-cam channel.
The Epic of Gilgamesh is an epic poem from ancient Mesopotamia. The literary history of Gilgamesh begins with five Sumerian poems about Bilgamesh (Sumerian for "Gilgamesh"), king of Uruk, dating from the Third Dynasty of Ur (c. 2100 BC).
Songwriters: Traditional Sumerian
Performed by Peter Pringle - GishGudi
Date
2023
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I remember hearing this when I filed a complaint with Ea-Nasir about his sub-par copper.
Nanni?!
lol, that's such a niche joke that I remember from Tumblr
That fucker got you too eh?
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Peter Pringle is my uncle! My mom’s brother. When I saw this video notification I was SO excited.
Thats so cool!!
@@BethRoars Have you checked out his selection of Theremin music? You’ll find various tracks on his TH-cam channel, ranging from ancient to contemporary.
th-cam.com/video/7XQN9XDnRm4/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
Do me a favor and tell your uncle he's a G! I listen to his interpretations and get filled with such emotion. He's truly gifted. His voice is absolutely surreal.
@@thecheif00 I’ll be happy to pass your message along. He is incredibly talented. Ever since he was a young boy, he’s been a virtuosa of talent. He has the most amazing collection of ancient instruments. Along with his work with the theremin.
He's great! I hope he'll deliver many more songs from old times :)
Peter Pringle used to be a pretty popular Canadian pop singer back in the 70s and 80s. He just recently regained popularity as a musician due to his interpretations of ancient poems.
You should read the Epic of Gilgamesh, it's about a 3 hour read. Very amusing story!!! If I ever get a dog i'll name it Enkidu.
or a husband
As long as it is big and hairy.
But it certainly is worth reading.
It would have to be an Anatolian mastiff.
The fact that when this was written, society was transitioning from hunter/gatherer society to farming, and them writing it down, sends shivers down my spine...
With the sheer size, scale, and scope of the city of Uruk alone, I'd say society had Long since made that transition.
@@AlexanderMBlade Fair, but it still lingered in their consciousness, and they might have known about people around them that still were hunter/gatherers 👍
And the opening still is „in those distant times“. Really puts it into perspective.
The perfect start to Traditional Tuesdays, it really doesn't get more traditional than Gilgamesh in Sumerian. Whenever I see an instrument that I haven't encountered before, especially when it has strings, I desperately want to try playing it. Needless to say, I've already been googling gishgudi to see if there's any way I can get my hands on one. lol
It sounds like the desert. The wind and theflow of the dunes.
Interesting to hear. Every 1950's child who grew up catholic was familiar with the monastic chants of gregorian music. Every muslim knows the call to prayer. Ancient celtic melodies are revived in concerts across countries. This sumerian solo performance gives you a sense of our elder member singing the connecting sound of humanity. Thanks...should be appreciated.
I remember a comment in original video. That reminds us that the oldest tale ever told starts with "in those distant days". Rome was only 2000 years ago. It already feels old. But when you realise rome and this tale has a larger gap than romans and us. Questions us how old human civilization is?
Man o love pete. I have been screaming this stuff for over a decade. My friends (that i have left after this discovery) hate me for it. Each chilling it has to be played when drunk.
Beth, you should check out Owain Phyfe, he did historical music in multiple languages. He was a fantastic musician and a great singer. You can find a lot of his work here on TH-cam both solo live performances and his studio recordings with his group The New World Renaissance Band.
I was listening to Diana Ankudinova singing the music from "Dune" immediately before this. A perfect prelude.
Isn't she marvellous? Her rendition of "Rechenka" is just magical!
Straight up banger of a tune.
You mentioned that maybe some of the audience went to special schools where they learned Sumerian. As it happens a new series has just started on the Digital Hammurabi channel. The first video "Bite-Sized Sumerian 1: How to Translate Ancient Sumerian" has just gone up. Megan and Josh who run the channel are lovely too.
Great timing
This was amazing!! I'm so looking forward to more Traditional Tuesdays. 💚💜
Very interesting indeed! I read in a comment below that you'll look at more traditional music in the future. Loving that idea! I'll stay tuned!
I'm going to do Traditional Music tuesday :)
The group Dead Can Dance does the same thing, their name means "Dead music is danceable".
Could you react to one of Dead Can Dance's songs please? :)
Yes!! I second that.
I love this song. Cool to see you reacting to it
Thanks!
THIS is just another reason I follow you. Brilliant & captivating commentating Beth. Thanks.
Thanks so much!
I'm waiting for the album. Hopefully a double. That will be a must have the day it comes out.
The one he does with the reconstructed/replica harp like instrument sounds amazing.
Very interesting indeed. Thanks for bringing this to us
Glad you enjoyed it
A bit of a late comment and I hope someone will catch it.
Something that will give you chills and is hard to comprehend is the fact that this epic, ancient to us, something thats actually the oldest recorded story in the complete history of mankind, mentions ancient days, nights and distant years, times, when the heavens were separated from the earth.
Do you have any reacting video about Gaelic or Scottish music? Always a pleasure learning from another cultures. ¡¡Pura Vida!!
I have one coming up in a few weeks. I'll be looking at traditional music every tuesday
If you want some classical music to react to, I recommend War March Of The Priests by Felix Mendelssohn. It's not too long, it's not apart of a larger composition (that I know of), and is a very riveting song
Peter's big '77 pop/rock song in Canada was "You Really Got Me Needing You Now." Good song! Another Canadian singer that had a good song around that same
time in '78 was Christopher Ward with the song "Once In A Long Time." He was also one of the first DJ's on Much Music which was Canada's version of the USA's MTV.
Soy ignorante para el conocimiento de la música pero lo que hacabo de escuchar se me hace algo único fantástico místico en pocas palabras algo bello tan bello como la coach ❤ bien Beth 👏👏🍀🍀
Me: I like old music.
Friend: Oh, so like the 80s or 90s?
Me: Mmmm
you should react to his Lament For GILGAMESH, The Gold Lyre Of Ur, he use an replica of a lyre from ur that was buried 5000 years ago
This is a fantastic interpretation
Peter Pringle is a treasure
I love to see you reacting to this video. It is a striking song that i play for napping with my cats 😺
Isn't this stuff wonderful? I discovered his TH-cam presence recently too and I was so thrilled to hear it. In my gap year I took a community college course on Sumerian Archaeology and I suppose it is one of the reasons that I became an archaeologist. I was smitten by the idea of interpreting a culture that had been long-gone and this one in particular is so significant because they are indeed the first one to create a written language. It's so interesting that in this part of the poem, which is essentially the beginning of it, it basically starts in a very familiar form to so much of Indo-European storytelling: "Once upon a time ...". The story of cuneiform is fascinating too as it evolved (as many languages do) out of pictographs that were used for tracking trade goods. But theirs was unique in that the pictographs represented an earlier incarnation of record-keeping in the form of tokens. They figured out that they could send along a sort of receipt with a shipment of goods that was essentially a sealed hollow clay ball that contained little tokens to represent the kind and amount of goods that were sent. When they reached their destination, the recipient would break open the ball and determine if anything had been lost or stolen along the way. The cuneiform version that emerged was practiced by a highly secretive class of scribes. If you were caught with the cuneiform wedge stylus in your possession and you weren't a scribe, you could be put to death for your transgression! Peter's most recent rendition "Enkidu and the Woman Shamkat" is a fairly racy piece of the Gilgamesh poem but quite fun to read about too.
Thanks for this! Fascinating!
btw it's nothing like a Oud at all XDD
but Peter Pringle's work is to be admired... I'd like to know him and to see his workshop!
My fave from Peter Pringle is "ENKIDU And The Woman SHAMKAT" - oPcB7NlI3fo - so beautiful and atmospheric
If this kind of music appeals to you, check out the 'Dead Can Dance' who also interpret a number of medieval and renaissance songs in their work (but not exclusively). You may already know of one member Lisa Gerrard (who solo is known for her work on the Gladiator Soundtrack).
I was lucky enough to read the Epic of Gilgamesh for my last year of high school. It's about a man who is terribly distraught when his best friend dies, so he goes on a quest to acquire immortality. There's a good summary here: th-cam.com/video/j-yJDbC_a2c/w-d-xo.html
If you haven't yet watched his stuff with the "harps," do check it out. We know what their instruments looked like because some were preserved. These "harps" don't sound like what you'd expect at all; the people of the time described the sound as "the roaring of bulls."
I think the earliest musical notation we have is from classical Greece, thousands of years after this. I'm not even sure we have emphasis-marks for this. Still, it's fun to imagine how the oldest story we know might have sounded.
There's a lot we don't know, but much we can infer. For instance, it's almost certain that the point of songs like this was to tell the story, so the music would have supported the words (which makes it the complete opposite of much '80s music, where the words are largely nonsense, just more sounds to merge with the rest of the music). So, you can kinda get a sense of how the rhythms and rising-and-falling of the music should be from the "music" of the words. Though we're not entirely certain about how the words sounded, either.
Thanks A LOT for this react. I love this and others songs from Peter Pringle! =)
No problem!
Gilgimesh was the first king of Ur. He was 3/4s god but he was mortal. He was also a tyrant. The gods saw what an AH he was and sent a wild man to be his friend. The description of him makes one think of Big Foot. They were cool until Gil starts to claim royal rights to spend the first night with every new bride in Ur. Enkidu blocked his way and they ended up in a fight that lasted hours. At last both exhausted they called truce and Gilgimesh relented the practice. They fought lions and traveled to the Cedars of Lebanon to fight a demon guard. See Gilgimesh was obsessed with becoming immortal like his mother. This demon guarded the access to the gods. Enkidu was told by the gods to keep him from killing the demon guard but he was feeling rebellious and encouraged Gil to finish him off. The gods were angry and made Enkidu ill and he died. Gil was heartbroken. Nothing mattered. He left his city and traveled north to find his ancestor who had survived the Great Flood and the gods had granted him immortality. He traveled until he came to the shore of a sea. He found someone to take him across and their he met Zuisudra, the Last King of Sumer before the Flood. Zuisudra tells him the tale of how the flood came to be. The gods had decided to destroy mankind but Enki, who had created man, didn't want that to happen so he told Zuisudra to build a boat and put animals and his family and craftsmen inside it. So when the flood came Enki in the form of a fish with a horn (think Narwhale) with a rope from the boat towed them to safety. He releases birds to see if it is safe and finally the doves come back showing the recovery. For all of this Ziusudra is given immortality. Gil begs him to give him the immortality. Zui says if you can stay awake 7 days he will. Gil fails at day 2. Still he begs him. So Zui gives him an herb that if prepared a certain way and drunk with give him immortality. So Gil heads home. He is dusty and tired and decides to bath in the river so takes off his clothes and lays them in a heap with the herb. While he is bathing a snake steals the herb. Now snakes were connected to Enki. Gil finds that it is gone and so are his hopes of being immortal. He returns to the city of Ur and does his best to be a good king. He had the walls of Ur built and gave up on immortality. BTW those walls, though not as tall as they used to be still stand. And due to cuneiform being on clay his story is still known. Perhaps he gained his immortality after all.
Uruk, not Ur. Two distinct cities. And he's listed as the fifth king in the Sumerian king list.
What a wonderful track.
FYI, your links to the original video and his channel both point to the Beatles ;)
Thanks for letting me know!!
It kinda looks greenscreened to me, but I could be wrong. I love this performance, though, and have listened to it several times.
I thought that too until I researched!
I'm pretty sure it is a green screen. I don't think he actually went to Baghdad to record a four minute song.
Apparently woolly mammoths were still around when this was written.
And bread was a new invention
Beth, want to hear the most amazing female voice EVER !? look up "Vanessa Amorosi " singing "Absolutely Everybody "
I remember that song!!
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Do you know Christine and the queens? the song People I ve Been Sad, live is reaaly cool to react
Please react to Peter Pringle GILGAMESH LAMENT FOR ENKIDU
Beautiful.....xx
It's great to see the Ancients are getting more love over the last few years, it really is! If you're curious about the myth itself, Abed Azrié conducted a magnificent musical rendition of it in Arabic (subtitled in English) in 2011, at the Institut du Monde Arabe in Paris. And it's got a full video on TH-cam! Here's the link unless you want to search for it on your own: th-cam.com/video/9ARRP5i2nw8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=9Wyvgf4Sa8boj1bf
I think my only regret with these excellent renditions of ancient music which, like Peter Pringle's, aim to resuscitate the original language itself, is the fact I am still not able to really forgo the subtitles and appreciate the language's music fully along with the music of the voice and the instruments as they are. I really enjoy your way of presenting things though; it's really relaxing and prompts reflexion. Rock on!
Munknorr does a lot of ancient European and Native American songs.
The Anunnaki themselves,,their music
So far everybody must have heard of Faraya Faraji, I guess... Mentioning, just in case...
The Epic of Gilgamesh... features a Demi god, plans of gods and men go awry, enemies becoming firm friends, bromance, fun, adventure and really wild things... but enough about Enkidu...😛 Seriously someone should make a film cycle of it as it will give Disney/Marvel Cinematic Universe a damned good rival.
You call it a "flow of nature". To me it is deeper, it is the flow of TIME. A time tunnel to the most ancient past, and the links that bind us to ancient ancestors a continuous thread that binds us to Adam and Eve and flows through us to our most far away descendants. That binds all humanity in a net a one.
I doubt that this is very close to what the music was back in the days. Seems somehow a little to "sophisticated". But never the less, it's a really nice piece of music and a nice take on the "how could it have been"-question. Love the sound of that instrument and the Arabic scales and melodies.
A little to sophisticated? Based on what? People often do this with ancient civilisations - assuming they knew nothing about anything. When the most proeminent form of entertainment you have is music/poetry one would assume a civilisation would be quite sophisticated in their compositions. It’s not like melody was invented by modern musicians. The only thing modern music did is standardise musical writing and introduce new instruments. You are ignoring the fact that by the time ancient mesopotamia was there (their recorded history that we found) they already had thousands of years to develop their storytelling and singing traditions and styles
@@georgemen No need to get offended. I never said or hinted anything about "they knew nothing about anything". There have been great achievements in ancient history, in arts as well as in science.
Maybe "to modern" would have be the better choice instead of "sophisticated". And that's ofc purely my gut feeling. In the end, nobody today knows what it was like back than. So chances are pretty high that what we imagine how it could have been back than, is a fair bit off from what it really was.
If anything it's unsophisticated imo. Lots of African & Asian music has far more complex polyphony & polyrhythms.
@@mrtveye6682 no offense taken and didn't mean to come off like that. I got kinda riled up because lots of people tend to consider ancient people to be complete monkeys or whatever, assuming they could've not made complex compositions, or build pyramids or invent really durable concrete and so on as if they didn't have hundreds and thousands of years to figure that shit out. Yeah, modern might've been the word more "appropriate" for your context, for sure.
@@papalegba6796 i wouldn't call it unsophisticated just because there were african peoples that had a tradition of such styles of music. It's like comparing jazz with technical metal - yeah, tech metal is far more complicated than jazz, but is any one of them two any more sophisticated than the other? And I'm not sure about the time frames of developing those styles. I might be wrong, but i think the ancient Ur and its developments came before any notable african civilisation hotbed? See this is kinda bullshit, cause as far as I know there were some pretty large and complex civilisations in ancient Africa, but because no one really cared about discovering whats there, it got lost to time completely most of what was left. Okay imma stop here cause im starting to fanboy over ancient lost civilisations history
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I'll bet Justin Johnson could play some good tunes on that 3 string guitar.
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Uhh...yeah. It would definitely be tricky to be more "traditional" than Sumerian.😁 One of the first known genuine civilisations. What would there have been before? Reed pipes and banging rocks together? Don't get me wrong, that can make some seriously good music.🎶
What puzzles me about such extremely dead languages as Sumerian is, I get how they've managed to translate it, but how on earth do they know how to pronounce it?🤷♂️
I think it is just an idea of what it might sound it :)
@@BethRoars That's fair. But I mean dead languages in general. Like, how did hieroglyphics sound? Or cuneiform?
Learn about Sumeria please
I'm a descendant of Gilgamesh.
Good on you
Statistically speaking, most people are descendants of Gilgamesh, if he even existed
Sumerian, these days, is based on the phonology of the Akkadian language, which gradually replaced it in Mesopotamia. Sumerian is an incomplete language for us and the gaps are filled with best guess replacements. This piece has a very Arabic style.
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I do love the part when he says: "𒀆 𒀋𒀙𒃰 𒄐𒄑"