2023 CFMOTO Ibex 800T | 1 Month Review
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1 Month and over 500 miles on my 2023 CFMOTO Ibex and that means it's time for the 1-month review. At this point, I've got enough experience with this bike to figure out all its little oddities and that's what were going over today. How has it held up over this time? Let's find out in today's video!
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CF Moto is giving the people what they've needed for years now; a fair priced bike.
It's same price range as Suzuki Vstrom 800 DE (IBEX comes with cruise control...it works, and throttling up NOT deactivating it is normal. App does not work if you have poor reception). From my test rides, Vstrom is a better bike in terms of balance and refinement, and when you ride it, you can feel that Suzuki has put lots of thoughts and experience into it - only lacking is the cruise control (but you can have the throttle lock).
A few more notes: Quickshift is very smooth. Braking is also very good - almost as refined as Euro brand bikes. I'm 5'7" 160lb so for me, it felt rather bulky in terms of width - but very manageable and responsive. Handle bar vibrates a lot more than expected. Right panier joint was a bit loose on my test bike. Do test ride it - and also test ride its competitions such as TransAlps, Vstrom, Tiger 660, and others.
The problem being is the dealers ramming the price. This same bike in Australia (where they include the boxes + engine guard + driving lights + heated seat) is roughly the equivalent of $11,200 USD / 14,000 AUD. I just got back from a local dealer here in California ....out the door with the SAME +'s $18,465 ($7200 difference) without financing. Very good bike...I'd buy it in a minute...but I'm not putting some crooked dealers grandchildren through college .....
@@Joe-gi9lo A couple more things I forgot to mention - do check the tension on the chain. All of the testing bike had such a tight tension. Also, a couple of them had front brake caliper drag. Could be minor issues, but do check before any ride.
@@LooxJJ Same price range? The Suzuki costs 2k euro more in EU and also lack tubeless tires , heated grips / seat etc. The vstrom is better for off road but for long travels it is considerably worse without all the extras on the CFMoto apart form costing more. It had various problems in contrast to Suzuki that has better quality but they get ironed out with every iteration and they provide decent support so in a few years their are going to be considerate competitors , i don't know if they are going to raise the prices at that point though.
I have this same bike (1000 miles) and I am having consistant "MCU critical system failure" message, and the throttle pulses at lower RPM's (bucks like a horse), dealership has not figured it out yet, I am starting to regret my purchase.😒
😀EDIT AS OF 08/18/23 CFMOTO sent a OTA update through the CFMOTO Ride app, it updated the Radiator fan logic and has fixed my issue with the MCU error! My faith has been restored! the Throttle mapping reset proceedure has also helped the throttle pulsing issue I was having and I have learned to control the throttle better over time. Loving this bike each time I Ride it!
@JJBinkers no dude, not a noob, dealer had reset the throttle mapping, it’s been fine since.
I had a chance to ride the ibex for about 50 miles. I was also very impressed and would pick it over any of it’s competitors. Ride safe safe dude!
I got a CFmoto 450ss and I’m blown away. I enjoy riding it more than my zh2! I’ve had it for a week and put 430 miles on it and I’ve romped on it the whole time. It’s extremely fun and the features are unbelievable. I can go into the app and look at every ride I go on and see all the stats. Lean angles, hard braking, fast acceleration ext. you have to try one on a first ride. It’s also extremely cheap to modify. I got pretty much all the mods I wanted for like 250$. That includes exhaust, quick shifter, tail tighty and some other things. I’m extremely impressed with CFmoto and I’m happy I got the 450
Does the 450 comes with the T-Box included on USA?
also an AMAZING CROSSPLANE engine!! all they need 2 do is put it into a lightweight *RALLY BIKE!!*
I was recently behind a 450SS (with an aftermarket pipe) in traffic, and before I could see what it was, I legitimately thought it was a V4 Aprilia or something. That little engine makes a spectacular noise.
@@stiggy186 it should, and it does, with the right pipe of course.. it's a shame some riders still put the wrong pipe on a CP engine to sound like a little 2T screaming trimmer\tractor, or a 4T enduro.. they seem 2 love it..
the whole point of CP engine is balancing the low notes and the high notes
What ya recommend on
a cross plane?
Bought it in Germany 4 months ago. I am about 3.500 Miles in to the journey. Love the bike even though it has obvious flaws but wich bike doesn't have thos. My GF also likes it cuz it's comfy on the backseat :) for a short rider like myself 5'6" it's okayish I would say. It has a wide seat so the 825mm feels more like 840 smth. Still, would reckomend this bike for everyone looking for a hellova bang for a buck!
I own this bike and am at break in now. I didnt even know it had the app, but being able to track my bike and knowing it's being moved is insane!!!! Thanks so much I got to download that and pair now. Thanks. I think bike has been great so far. It has little small issues but nothing that has deterred me from liking it. It's a great bike initially.
I knew it!!! I knew it was going to become his most ridden bike.
I have owned one in Australia since 2022 and agree with everything you have said. I have owned lots of bikes but this is the most comfortable bike I have ever owned. First ride was 450kms (281 miles) and I got off without any aches or pains anywhere. Did an across country tour (3500kms / 2187 miles in 7 days) on all road surface and spent 9 hours on it one day. This bike is brilliant!
The bike handles long distance touring on either black top or dirt roads / tracks but would be a handful for a small bloke like me in really technical off road stuff.......buts its not designed for that.
If you use the quickshifter for whats its designed for - quick shifting under hard acceleration it works just fine. If you use it as a "defacto" automatic its clunky. Just like my BMW 1200 RS that costs double the price!
Wait and it wont be long that you insurance company will want to see your driving records and stats from the app in the event of an accident.....police too!
Keep us posted as it ages and how the quality goes
gday mate.. how (fun) is the 800mt in the twisties compared to the r1200rs, as im also looking at an r1200r. cheers :)
Both are great bikes to ride but very different. You will have plenty of fun on either. The BMW has stacks of torque and power and is an awesome black top tourer. The 800MT is very comfortable, fun in the twisties and can handle dirt roads......Oh and is a LOT cheaper than the BMW.@@UnimpressedAussie
@@whatstrue1481 Looking to step off my R1150RT (that I use in the twisties and hardly ever tour) and onto this CF Moto and your comment is very positive. I bought a R1250RT Elegance and sold it as it was the second least comfortable bike I've owned so you praise for the MT's comfort caught my eye.
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I bought this bike today to add to my 'collection.' I also have a HD road king special and a Suzuki C50 Blvd. This bike is so nimble and responsive. It's a lot of fun. Going from the HD RK to this is just fun. From low & heavy to tall & light, it's nice to mix up the riding experience.
We recently bought a new CFMoto CForce 600 four-wheeler and absolutely love it. So much machine for the money! I’ll be buying more CFMoto.
I know motorcycles pretty well, and you could *still* plop a BMW badge on it, and I'd be none the wiser. I think its cool. And everything I've heard for people who've actually *had* one is largely positive. Good for them.
This should be my next upgrade, I have been cheking it out and I love your indepth review
CFMOTO invited me for a eurotip with the 800MT. And it’s such a great bike, very comfy and such a great engine for an adventure. Really enjoyed the time 🙌
Been reviewing mid size ADV bikes for ages & this is what we want on bikes cruise control/heated grips , crash bars ect as standard 👍👍👍👍
Chase! After the break-in period! maybe over 2km up! that QS will be buttery smooth! Auto bleep works great right out the door!
I like this bike, if I was in the market for a midsize bike, this would be on my list. Sat on one at a local dealer and it feels very nice.
That is the second time this week that I have heard the complaint about the cruise not kicking off if you move the throttle. I don’t remember ever having a car that kicks the cruise off with throttle input, and I wouldn’t expect it on a bike. If I rest my hand on the throttle, I don’t want it kicking the cruise off. Sounds like a good system.
@Chaseontwowheels, you do know that the engine in that IBEX is 100% the 790KTM Adventure bike right? CF Moto builds all 390 and 790 engines for KTM. They will soon be building the 890 and 1290. CF has had a partnership with KTM for some time now!
Yes I’m sure he knows
Looove your content chase!!!
Good review! I am being swayed! Looking forward to off road mods and test!
Very good review. Cheers!
If I had it, I'd wanna take this bike across the country over and over.
I have a cfmoto clx 700 I have had since they first came to the states and its still amazing. The lack of aftermarket is the worst part of ownership.
I agree! Lack of aftermarket sucks! I ride 35 miles through open Kansas highway. A windshield and some hand guards would be fantastic. Also some exhaust! I agree with Chase that the cruise control disengage is strange that you can’t roll the throttle forward and kick off the cruise control
Great review. I just test rode one today.
I liked everything about it except:
1) Throttle really twitchy off idle in "sport mode" I need to test another mode.
2) The indicator switch is very "numb" and gives little tactile feed back.
Other that those 2 items I liked it.
Great review man, I have wached a tone of CFmoto Ibex800T(800MT) not one explains anything at all...every one can put data on, but u realy done actual review with usefull infos about important things, which u can be aware only if you buy this beauty. But if u don't like it, its too late now :)
What did you use to get the calipers loosened to put the guards on?
Great video, what is your weight and size?
The app is cool so long as your insurance company can't get in. Thanks for this review, I'm getting hooked.......just not past the barb yet......yet.
Keep us posted on how the quality goes as it ages
The power drops off like that because they restrict the bike with the ride by wire tables. You can twist the throttle as much as you want, but if the table says to back the throttle plates down to 70% after 5500rpm, that's all you get. An ECU flash usually cures that.
Once I get to installing the new exhaust I'll def be looking into a flash.
@@chaseontwowheels Sweet, I will keep on the lookout for that video. CFMoto really seems to be a good bike. If we can flash the ECU and tune them, I can see myself getting one.
I can't wait to get myself a cfmoto.. Though I'm torn between getting the Ibex or saving some money and going with the adventura.. Either way I would definitely be down to go on a long ride with you once I got one.
The heated grips are probably monitored by the bikes electronics, to optimise available surplus power from the charging system / battery ...then drop to a comfort level to allow recuperation. Probably a great design / practicality feature i suppose ?
Wait so you're saying that the bike has a SIM with Internet access? How does it tell you its location or if it was moved if you are not at wifi or bluetooth range?
CF MOTO with KTM power train really gives me trust in it. I like the maintenance schedule and the fact if I need service, I can go to a KTM dealership. Great review
I’ve had an ADVentura 650 for 12 days and put 900 miles on it so far. Good chance I’ll upgrade to the 800 next year, but I’m new to adventuring and the 650 has been very forgiving for the new riding style. Plus it’s faster and more agile than my race specked 1998 1200s Sportster.
what's the difference between the 800 T AND 800 S
How much mpg is everyone getting on these bikes?
Hi mate, I was wondering... how do you find this bike in terms of fun in the twisties? Its the only thing left stopping me from buying one... other choice is a much dearer bmw R1200R.
Nice vid. You in Alpharetta?
I've been watching overseas videos of folks with these. Now that it's available in the USA, I'd love one for road riding! I have a 2022 CF Moto CForce600 Touring quad & love it . Also, have a 2023 KTM 350 EXC-F for legal dirt riding, but this looks excellent for comfortable street cruising.
How would you compare it with Tiger Rally Explorer? Is Triumph worth the money?
It's a great looking bike ❤👏👏👍
Great video.
Sorry if this is a dumb question but doesn't it have a rain mode or something like that? Does that setting have some foem of traction control maybe?
I've owned 2 cfmoto UTVs (iforce 1k and cforce 600) nad both have run flawlessly. The uforce we drive on the farm daily. What I like is the 2 year warranty. I'ma snatch up that ibex soon as I can
Resale is big negative though
I'm starting to look into one of these or a vstrom because the mt09 isn't good for touring, 1400 mines in 2 days was rough. Still have the same opinion? Anyone to flash it and make the cruise limit higher than 80?
Let's see a new graphic kit or wrap. Im loving my ibex. Great content, sir.
It’s coming!
Remapping for poor low speed fueling can be done by phone and needs a external preload adjuster for shock as C spanner problematic.
Closing the throttle fully or changing gear also deactivate the cruise control
I've never had bike that would've had TC, but I sure would like to have it. Few times on rain almost trashed my zx9r and zzr1400. Needs very little oil on road to get into very scary situations 🙂
To be honest traction control off road isn't a benefit. If you grew up or had the chance to ride exclusively off road bikes traction control can be a serious detriment in the wrong scenario. For the road definitely a benefit but off road not so much... for the cruise control the brake, clutch disengage function is totally the norm... one of the best ways for me to have a smooth disengage is to have my throttle held steady and tap my front brake before I let off the throttle... let's you come off the throttle nice and smooth or as abruptly as you want... great review and looking forward to your off road adventures.... currently own a BMW R1200RT and love it but want to get one of these for so many reasons... cheers 🍻
Chase, I see that you aren't updating the playlist of the MT
We have had cfmoto atv for years here in norway, have a local dealers 5 min from me. It seems mechanically reliable but my biggest turn off is that they seem to age very fast, screwheads etc gets rusty very fast.
Help me choose!
Just need to know, how big are you? I am 6’2” and 265#. My KLR has served me well. I live in the TX Panhandle and the wind >20 MPH beats the hell out of me. I’m looking for a bike that will run over 65MPH into a 20MPH wind.
For the heating, The smaller the resistance, the greater the current, and the cable heats up, the problem is that it can burn. A short pause is needed for this. My Merc has heated seats with 3 steps on heating where you put them on max and they later go to the 2d and then to 1st.
That bmw rider watching you at 5:44 😂
At the time I purchased my latest bike, I knew nothing about the IBEX 800. Presently, we have no local dealers that sell this bike. I would have liked to test ride one. I ended up getting a KTM 890 Adventure and it is presently in the shop getting its break-in service done. I am happy with the bike, but not happy with the way KTM nickel and dimes one for the extras.....didn't realize that you have to buy extra hardware to even allow one to connect the bike to ones phone. Not getting that "extra"!! Just wish I had the opportunity to ride the IBEX before purchasing the KTM......could have saved some money....
Please do a review on the cf moto 450ss. also great video man
I want to!
Coming up on my 30 days, already have 1600 miles on it, I have had on MCU error that went away when I shut off and on the engine, never to return, Had my first oil change, it was 300 dollars, the app is pretty good, Still loving my bike.
oil change is 300$?!!?
I am getting th MCU error pretty consistantly now. Also noticing the throttle pulses at low RPM's like a bucking horse! Dealer has no idea what is causing the MCU Critical System Error, they called CFMOTOUSA they told them to uplug the Battery..it didnt work as it has happened twice since then.
@@Im-a-Fool great I was going to test ride one tomorrow. Fkk that
@@jDot2414good lord, you’re not going to test drive one because of that?
I’ll always be a Yamaha fan. But I respect CF moto as a brand. I mean when they started making engines for other brands those brands got more reliable, not less reliable. It’s not like a venom motorcycle or something. They’re putting in the work to build the brand. And I have to say. I don’t have an ADV and if I did it would likely be a something more off-road bias like a Yamaha Tenere 700 but this CF moto is a good looking bike, my main concern would be how it holds up once you start taking it off road and lay it down a few times. Does the protection work well, do the gadgets/tech start acting up?
The all-new 2023 exploration edition has the IMU TC, fully tested.
At 15:40 you're talking about the RPM and torque in different stages of the RPM. Funny enough it is way different with the restrictions we got in Europe. You say that the bike "dies off" at around 5500 RPM. For me, my bike does quite the opposite with the restrictions. It is very quick from 3.200 to 4.500 and then dies off and peaks again at about 6.400 rpm up to 9.500. Weird to drive imo but still quite enjoyable as other people would not expect it. Sadly this is only due to EU restrictions in exhaust fumes etc.
Im half considering the cfmoto cafe cuz goddamn you cant beat that price even though i would kill for a ducati cafe racer.
Where is the muffler video I want to see it cuz I got one and I want to change mine
We would like to hear a 100 thousand miles review please !
How top heavy does it feel with the big tank up high like that? Does it feel about the same as an Africa twin standard since they are similar weight? Which one is quicker?
The australian review of this bike said it has 6 modes including ABS and TC off ?
Does CFMOTO also sell black top aluminum case?
Yes it does. In Europe they are already launching with the black Explore Edition.
Has anyone compared the IBEX against the Kawasaki versys650? I’m really interested in how it compares to the versys
One of these right now is for sale very very near to me at a dealership for like two grand off Canadian. It is a last year's model that didn't sell. I was set to buy a 2024 Honda transalp but with this Ibex being so near to me and being at least 2,000 Canadian off not including there's probably another $2,000 worth of equipment that is optional on the transalp like the engine guard and the engine protector frame heated hand grips etc. I'll be 40 percent highway 50% secondary 80kmph roads, maybe 10% gravel roads..
Which one do you recommend. Honda dealer is half an hour of heavy traffic to get to... cfmoto dealer is a cakewalk away !...please say ibex. Lol
OC: definitely want to see a video on just the app capabilities
More Papio am I right tho?
@@andyyougoonie never enough G'Papio
Currently a daily R.E. Himmy rider.Looking for more of longer traveling with light/medium off roading.This can be the ticket.
This is a fantastic upgrade from that.
can anyone tell me if there is a setting to get the low beams to come on,,or should should they come on automatically when you start it.. i just got mine today.. and i have no low beams .. does it need to go back to the dealer
dealer fix
CF Moto Ibex 800T resembles the Triumph Tiger 900. No doubt they studied the Tiger when designing this machine. Nothing wrong with that...the Triumph Tiger 900 line of bikes is outstanding. This CF Moto looks like a nice bike. Hopefully they will continue to expand in the US market.
i actually met one of the editors at a cycle gear in morrow ga cool dude.
One of the editors of what?
I was looking at picking up either a BMW F750gs or F900XR, but this thing makes too much sense. My only issue is I sat on it and I'm a bit too short for it. On my tippie-toes at 30" inseam. But this looks like a no-brainer
Did you try it with the seat in the lowest position . I think they have an adjustable seat, I've read somewhere
I have one and have a strange surge at deceleration and engine breaking... and I hate the gold wheels. Other than that I love it so far! As far as cruise control... I just open the throttle a tad bit like slight acceleration then flip the switch off. Otherwise the brake and clutch method are more disruptive if that makes sense.
a strange surge at deceleration and engine breaking, i have the same problem. Othervise motor is amazing . I take a motor back to the seller , they say its normal ...
theres a real good chance thats just the engine shutting off due to emission. I had a stryker and it would do the same thing. Off throttle bike bucks and enginge shuts off. On throttle engine is back on and it bucks you again
Mine does the surge occasionally too I've noticed. I have to decel and shift down very slowly I feel to avoid it doing it. If I shift down likea gear then one more real quick it seems to do it. So I have to just take my time tad more. Hopefully an update in future for this though.
@@bikerbeliever8169 I had to flash my ECU to resolve that problem. Its sadly an emissions thing with the Ride by wire system and can not be fixed other wise. Might be able to use a PC3 to help it tho
That's an emission thing. My XSR900 does the same.
Does the bike have reverse? Can it go on gravel roads? Does it take regular gas?
No.yes.yes.
So, the bike has an ICU but doesn't have TC. That sounds weird. Looks nice.
First time saw video where it sounds good. Been watching few videos on lineup not just this one. That is my complaint sound bad. Mechanical and not suprising since have made 4wheelers and side by sides for years, sounds like a atv.
Cf in general is a great brand, I used to live in China an I tried many of the early versions oof the bikes they're selling here like the nk that one your review ing is called the mt and some others, and to be honest I would go for one of the cf line up before considering buying any other.
the magic word is *CROSSPLANE*
*aaand* you might want a set of *MOTOZ* rally adventure tires, they have several options
I wish they put their 450 crossplane inline engine into a lightweight RALLY bike 😢
If i get a brand new bike it will be this but i just bought my fjr1300 and its superb its a 2002 model but a new bike is a new bike specialy something like this
Want one so bad
I heard it’s got a cel charger
About the good exhaust noise, China strictly bans aftermarket exhausts, even if the aftermarket exhaust is quieter. When you change your original exhaust, you will get caught and fined. So CFMoto just make their exhaust good enough to counteract this.
Off road??
Is this really an adventure bike though? It’s a sport tourer in my view.
Same as a Vstrom basically. More tourer than adventure. None of these big bikes are great pure off-road adventure bikes. Too heavy, too bulky.
I'd buy it for sport/touring
Free bike!
its like a vstrom 1050 and tenere 700 put together.
-MT-09 SP also can't deactivate by rolling the throttle forwards. I believe it has to do with the ride-by-wire systems they use for the throttle. When cruise control is active on my MT-09 SP, the throttle is in the fully CLOSED position. That may explain why you can't roll it forward to deactivate.-
Edit: I was wrong, you can deactivate on the MT-09 SP by rolling the throttle forward
Not correct. I have a 2022 and you just roll it forward.
@@kluthage421 Huh, I've tried it and it didn't work in the past. I guess I'll give it another try and edit my comment if this holds true.
Everyone knows the gazelle > the ibex
Beat at my own game 😢
Hold on, I think the Tuareg hunt these animals.
Wow!!! I'm sad , all that without traction control. Deal breaker for me.
So many guards.
The inflation and high taxes the western economies are putting on us is an eye opener.
Hence why they always say china has cheap labour, and not that they have less taxable manufacturing and have great set ups.
Dude, I like your channel and I do like the bike, but at least disclose you got the bike and all accessories for free. Withholding that info makes it seem shifty.
Those aluminum cases are way overpriced. I bought an aftermarket aluminum tail case for a fraction of the price and it works just fine and looks great.
As an established you Tuber, i think it only proper that you learn the correct way to dismount a motorbike from its centre stand. That intro looked very amateur imho ...sorry !
oc!