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- ACC on the BRINK! UNC Board of Trustees DROPS BOMBSHELL - Opposes Staying in ACC! This move could trigger a domino effect, with rumors swirling about similar sentiments at FSU and Clemson. Is this the beginning of the ACC's UNRAVELING? Dive into the details, analyze the potential impact on the conference, and see what it means for the future of these powerhouse programs!
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UNC alum here. Two things to understand why the UNC BOT seems to be suddenly flipping out, one long term, one short term. First, the entire UNC athletic department and donor support hangs off of basketball success. It is only a slight exaggeration to say the only reason the Rams Club (boosters) exist is to secure season tickets in the Dean Dome. That's the long term backgound issue. More immediate, UNC appears to be already losing the NIL battle to deeper pocketed schools. At least that is what die hard hoops fans think when UNC whiffs on all its big man portal targets this cycle while Calipari loads up in Arkansas. In that sense the future is now and BOT members are surely getting an earful from Big Rams about it. When the Bubba-Preyer spat first happened I pointed out that Bubba was simply in denial about how the media rights gap will inevitably morph into a NIL gap and then a competition gap as donors' program support dollars are shifted to NIL collectives. In a matter of weeks Bubba has managed to fall even further behind the curve. I would not be surprised if some trustees ask for his resignation on Thursday to convey the gravity of the times.
Nice, thanks for explaining
It's nice to hear an actual UNC fan admit that basketball is king and UNC football is irrelevant... Hopefully the talking heads can learn this when discussing the topic.
Football isn't irrelevant at UNC, that's dook. The Heels will always try to win football games, but the linchpin of the AD is hoops. That's why the BOT is so concerned because if nothing changes in a year or two the SEC and B1G will be buying the best rosters in basketball too, if they haven't already started. UNC as a second-tier hoops program, the donor money stops flowing and wham you are picking and choosing which non-rev sports to cut.
There is more information and insightful opinion in this post than in the entire video.
@@kornegaylwifythe fact that football is mediocre and not a national brand is why the SEC won't take UNC. the future of UNC lies in an ACC conference minus clem/fsu.
Great work TJ! If you didn’t know I think UNC fans like myself consider FSU/Clemson fans friends :) UNC is gone, how they get around the BOGs I don’t know. It’s just nice to see them confirming the writing on the wall. Preyer has in the past, but this feels different.
Thank you!
This channel is always clickbait
There are some people at UNC that still don't get it, strangely enough. ANY school in the ACC who cares about their football program KNOWS that status quo is not acceptable, but means a slow death. Not sure if it's ignorance or arrogance, but they need to wake up lol
You're going to have sentimentalists everywhere you go. UNC is an original founding member of the ACC. It's not the same as BC or Syracuse leaving. It would be a very symbolic death knell, and some people want to exhaust all possibilities before leaving. Though I disagree with them, I respect their position.
@Jerlexis you mean like when Syracuse left the Big East?
You have no clue. UNC has been aware of the situation since Day 1 and likely secured pending SEC and B1G invites soon after the TX/OK move.
@@tarheel7406 lol you are entertaining! UNC is just the hottest thing to EVER hit college football huh?! haha You're bashing FSU for wanting out on one hand, on the other you're telling me UNC has been planning on getting out for a long time.... which is it?
@@rlhaff3560
a) UNC is an historical underachieving middle competitor in football. It's brand and value is diversified.
b) FSU fans are so moronic. No one bashes FSU for needing to move to an eventual P2. FSU gets bashed because of how it has gone about it.
Amazingly stupid.
Getting so excited! Huh? What is UNC going to say?
John Swofford
Athletic director at UNC
1980 - 1997
Commissioner of ACC
1997 - 2021
John Skipper UNC Alumni
President of ESPN 2012-December 2017
Holden Thorp UNC Chancellor 2008 to 2013
ACC President's Chair
UNC did this.
Yep unx did this when there hand picked confrence commissioner sacrificed the whole confrence for duke/unx basketball. Also lol at all the unc fans thinking they will thrive in a better conference. They are scared to death what will happen if NC State gets in as well. Unx will never be a football school, the schools politics and basketball first mentality will always hold them back.
@@adambrock4384 NC State broke up the ACC when their athletic director led the committee that refused to let FSU in the playoffs. Now NC State is lobbying the NC General Assembly to force a package deal with UNC because they know that is the only way they will get picked up by a major conference.
@daviddavis6975 60-3, he made the right choice. I have no problem with fsu and imo they were robbed last year. I just love pointing out the softness that is unx. They can't beat State on the field with a level playing field and they know it. I would rather die like a man than live like a bitch; the exact opposite of the carolina way.
@@daviddavis6975 Boo had 1 vote. He was the chair. He's being blamed because that's convenient for you. It's not accurate. How many were on the committee?
@@DLTJR1959 you're right, of course, but don't forget that a chairman is a leader and has the power to steer conversations. his influence was on display for all to see
The addition of Texas and California to the Atlantic Coast Conference should be one of the arguments brought up by the schools that want to leave.
You mean SMU not Texas
@@jimholland8112 No I mean territory
@WeSRT4 even in Texas no one cares that much about SMU sports.
@@RobMacQ What does that have to do with anything? I'm talking about the teams that want out of the ACC.
@@WeSRT4 thought i was agreeing with you
The thing that kills me about all of this is the fact that they want the case heard in North Carolina but come to Florida for the annual meeting every year so they do business dealings in Florida when it benefits them but not when it doesn't. That's an absolute joke to me
They come to Florida for the the weather and golf. The ACC annual meeting for 2024 was in Charlotte.
@@billw5823 I understand why they come to Florida I live in Florida I live right down the road from there. They do this conference here every year not in Charlotte. The point of my comment was the fact that they want to sue Florida State from North Carolina saying that that's where they do business That's not where they do business with Florida State. They do business with Florida State in the state of Florida but they don't want a lawsuit here because they know that the sunshine laws exist
Preach brother. I can't stand the hypocrisy from the ACC. Just a freaking joke
They go to Sandestin resort to have a few meetings between golf, the greatest beaches in the world, and the outlet center for shopping- not to mention the seafood
@@sruckel apparently you missed the point of my comment...
I am an alum of UNC and a member of the Rams Club. I have used my “points” to get better seats at football. I have been called and told I am eligible for bball tickets, but do not buy them. I see what’s going on as the BOT trying to move forward with moving due to the canceler being “interim”. Bubba will go to meeting Thursday. It’s closed, but something will come out.
#GoHeels #GDTBATH
The SEC/BIG is superior has already started and not just our screw job, Duke softball had the #3 RPI and got a 10 seed in their tournament. The NCAA basketball tournament will soon be a combination of 40 teams from the SEC/BIG and 24 spots for the other conferences, not sure how "Bubba" doesn't get it.
“A House Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand.” ( Abraham Lincoln). Could easily be talking about the PAC in 3023 and the ACC in 2024.
Jesus said that first.
Matthew 12:22-28
"a fish rots from the head down"
As a UConn fan, if the ACC break up, i wont lose sleep over it. FSU and Clemson (along eith BC) didn't want UConn in it.
Now, our basketball are National Champs in back to back years, and our football team, with Jim Mora, on the upswing, the ACC couldve been the best basketball conference, yet you guys didnt want us.
Oh well, BC and Fruit University (Syracuse University) will be left out soon... 🤓
UConn May end up in the B12
B10 and SEC killing college sports. I don't even wanna watch anymore
blame the tv corporatations, this comes from the media, not the conferences or the schools. they are just taking the very good deal being offered them. i blame espn and fox, but mostly espn because they are scum
Football, that’s it.
Bad Karma is finally hitting the ACC which so deserves it. Hate the ACC because they practically kicked USC, a founding member, out in 1971 and when USC tried to get back in in late 70s the ACC said-POUND SAND! Now USC is in a power SEC conference making double what ACC teams make. So leaving the Pac12 er ACC benefitted USC immensely but eventually hurt the ACC. PacACC can't collapse soon enough for me. Even if ACC survives, it will be a lower tier conference.
USC wasn't kicked out, they left on their own in 1971. That left the conference with 7 members until they added Georgia Tech back. When USC wanted to get back in there was no reason for the ACC to ask them to return.
Karma I agree the acc killed the big east now its coming back to bite them
The South Carolina rivalry was too intense, and so there were some bad feelings between especially the North Carolina schools and South Carolina (I understand that the Wolfpack fans turned the SCar. basketball bus over on one visit to NC State). But that kind of intensity does create fan interest and good teams - the South Carolina BBall team of 1970 was the team best suited to take out UCLA, but it never got the opportunity due to having to win the ACC tournament to go to the NCAAs.
But, has the SEC been good for SCar? Has not been a factor in FBall or BBall, and BBall has fallen dramatically from the heady days in the ACC, much like Maryland BBall was a big deal and went head-to-head with Duke and Carolina yearly, and the fans were into it - that intensity thing once again. So big money for the GCocks, but at what cost?
@@billw5823 Reading comprehension-I said practically kicked and that's true.
@tedmaynard7326 I think you are right. The teams hated each other and that really increased the fan interest. I don't really hate any SEC teams.
USC's greatest MBB coach found it harder to recruit great players after leaving the ACC. The ACC teams were used to seeing a "W" when playing USC. McGuire changed that and actually went undefeated in a regular season in the ACC. Very few ACC teams accomplish that. So when the traditional ACC MBB power teams started losing to USC the ACC wanted to take its ball and go home. Instead of taking pride in what USC was accomplishing in their conference they stuck their thumbs in their mouths. McGuire on a road trip early in his career at USC defeated both Duke and UNC(not the undefeated season)both were ranked in top 10 I think if memory serves me.
Three schools voted no to adding SMU, Stanford, and Cal. FSU, Clemson, and UNC. NC State was onboard but "changed" to voting them in.
I still can't believe some people think the ACC will survive this...🤦🏻♂️ #RIPACC
That's up to ESPN, they need the ACC for basketball content. Maybe they stay together as a basketball only conference.
Espn will move the basketball schools to either Sec or B12
It won’t, but ESPN also knows they will lose a ton of viewers too, because you can’t just lop off 15 to 20 schools and have more eyeballs!
The BIG12 survived as a Tier 2. That's the benchmark.
Once the good old boys got out of power at Maryland they bolted to the Big Ten. Years of a negative athletic budget forced their hand along with distrust of ACC leadership. Back in 2014 no one knew what a genius move that would turn out to be. UNC is going to have a place to go. I hope it’s in the big 10 so we can renew our rivalry..
MARYLAND fans now reek of apathy. Why should UNC risk same?
Did your info come from ESPN -Disney????
This is nuts. This is about nothing else but football. This is about football brands: FSU, Clemson, Virginia Tech, and Miami.
It is not about individual sports. It's about money. Yes, football drives the money now, but if basketball was the biggest moneymaker, it would be about basketball.
@@davidromero3487it’s about football . ACC football brands only. Clemson, FSU, Virginia Tech and Miami. Football brands equal money.
No, its all about money, always has been.
The AD is still of the old guard at UNC who is Pro ACC/BIG. The chair was appointed by the NC BOG that is NC State and Pro SEC. Most of the old guard at UNC with power have been pushed out the last 20 months. Go check it out. They've been replaced by people appointed from the NC BOG. On top of the Pro SEC group who now has power at UNC, UNC is in serious athletic financial debt. They already have a 17M downfall for the upcoming budget. These guys want out of the ACC. Bubba wants to stay. There is a serious rock fight going on at UNC. By the way, there is a new meeting Thursday morning and conference realignment is on the docket. Should be fun.
Well, this is interesting stuff. Obviously a lot going on behind the scenes in Chapel Hill. As a UNC alum, I have always felt that we are the heartbeat of the ACC. I've argued that we have no intention of leaving the ACC. But now I think I was wrong. One of the prevailing thoughts that the conference can just redistribute revenue and give more to schools like FSU, Clemson and UNC is a ridiculous thought. It just won't work. Who would you take from? Wake Forest, Boston College, Syracuse? This sort of scheme will do nothing but breed resentment and is a non starter.Here's the bottom line. Each and every year the kids are changing teams like they change shirts. If a player has a good season----say at UNC---then Penn State is calling with a bigger offer. That's how it works. If you can't pay then you can't attract the talent. And you won't be able to compete on the field.
I think all this realignment stuff will come sooner rather than later. Three new members are coming in July. In your next video I'd love to hear you address why July might be an important date. Good job!
Thank you, good info!
I definitely agree that any sort of severe uneven revenue sharing model is a non starter in a conference model. Won’t work regardless how it’s implemented.
The uneven revenue sharing would be a killer. What I see in the future is the SEC and Big10 consolidating to about 24 teams each. At that point they will realize that the real way to maximize revenue for the big schools is to weed out the ones that they have that don't bring in revenue. Vandy, Northwestern and others will be on the chopping block to be replace by teams that bring in better markets or eliminated just to let the pie be split to a smaller group. I'm a UNC guy as well and I hope to see the ACC implode because of football money. I'm rather see the league dump Clemson and FSU and get more schools in that will fit the conference.
If you look at TV viewership last year the ACC beat the BIG 10 in total viewers. This was year when Michigan and Ohio State were undefeated up to the last game.. The ACC just has a bad TV contract and adding SMU, CAL and Stanford were knee jerk reactions. SMU adds nothing to the ACC brand.
I think FSU and Clemson should do what they must.
Big 10 took ucla with usc, I bet they take Miami and Fsu.
45 days, please dissolve the conference. It is cancer.
Maybe they can borrow the money from Stanford, they have more than all the other ACC schools combined
The conference does influence a player's choice but now the field has been tilted towards the bigger schools. It is all about the money and how much a school can raise. The bigger the school, the more students they are graduating, the more money they can raise. No way a smaller school can raise as much money as a larger school. Not enough graduates sending it back.
Now, the advantage has shifted to the bigger schools across the nation and in each conference. The playing field in no longer level. The best teams will be the richest teams which will be the larger schools. The smaller universities will not have a chance. It is all about money now. The more you have, the better team you can buy. Just what we did not want.
This all looks very fiduciary. All above board here folks!
Not sure why UNC would want to stay when they have a ticket to the Power 2 ?
The ACC is a thing of the past.
UNC has never been known for football it was always basketball.
The ACC will survive Clemson, and FSU, but if one of the founding members of the ACC leaves, like UNC, or Duke, or NC State that's the end of the ACC.
Clemson was a founding member. And no, without those two, the ACC is dead.
Money and access to it is the entire problem in the ACC. UNC can’t save the ACC. If FSU/Clemson leave, it’s all over. That will trigger more movement.
After the B10/SEC/B12 get finished, the ACC can survive but it will be a G5 conference making about the same as the AAC.
@@scarcheer7211 The BIG12 is already dead in this context.
Unc football program sucks, way over hyped to be a SEC or BIG10 brand.
I don't disagree, although I would say that there are 3 to 5 teams in the SEC and Big 10 who are worst. Eventually the Big10 and SEC are going to start to look at teams like Vandy and Northwestern and say why are they getting an equal share. This is all about money and once a few other conferences blow up and the two that are left, look around, they will cut out the deadwood and bring in teams that are more likely to bring in revenue.
WE WANT OUT! F the ACC
This is hilarious 😂😂😂 UNC is so irrelevant in football it’s not even funny.
Be Careful What You Wish For 🤫
Be careful what you ask for. UNC will be lost in the BIG10.
Bro, as a fellow Tar Heel fan, leaving the ACC is not the right move
they want to join the Pac-2!
The love of money is the root of all evil!
Conferences wanting to compete at the highest level being construed as what Paul was referring to when he wrote that to Timothy is complete hilarity. Thanks for the laugh today!
Then I guess National Championships are also evil.
So net - why don’t u just leave along with FSU. Why do u care about internal nc politics.
The ACC is dissolving just like the PAC-12 did. What conference is next to go? BIG12?
No. It looks like the Big 12 survives as the 3rd best conference far behind the B1G/SEC financially. But also far ahead of the lower conferences.
@@mike111777 Agreed. The Big 12 got poached of its biggest brands, but unlike the PAC, it weathered the storm and added eight solid schools to get to 16. Not sure if the ACC will survive. Some of those not going to the P2 could have a landing spot in the Big 12, which would shore up the eastern side of the conference.
Nope. We ain’t going nowhere.😂 You Big 12 haters would love for our conference to crumble.
In context, the BIG12 is already dead.
The ACC has not been a good conference after letting all those old big east schools . They was no good reasons for them being added. Moving basketball tournament to NYC, DC and any where up north. Greensboro is the ACC home. Now it’s in Charlotte. No wonder it’s dying.
FSU and the other "football schools" pushed for those failed expansions.
So wait when did Miami become a mid-tier school? Neither conf wants or needs the state of NC but both would love to have S. Fla / Miami market
Florida already brings that Market to the SEC. FSU would bring that market to the B1G. Miami is not necessary to either conference in that regards.
@@RA19931999 you are clueless. Miami is the largest market in Florida with more wealth than the rest of the state combined. It’s AAU accredited, has a global brand, most fertile recruiting grounds, etc. it’s fairly well known that Miami is the Big10s main target (along with ND).
@@Punxphil215 living in la la land
@@Punxphil215The B12 has 14 schools that are R1 research schools and 5 AAU members. We are more closer to the Big 10 academically than all the major conferences. There are only two conferences with high academic standards the B10 and B12.
what do you think happens to NC State?
That’s a GREAT question.
B12 bound
@@scarcheer7211Yep
Just because FSU, UNC and Clemson wants to leave, so be it, if Miami can't get into the sec, I'd just soon stay where we are,
Hoops does not matter! Marquette, DePaul, UConn, St. John, Providence, Belmont, Seton Hall, .......... Basketball is much more evenly spread to non top-conference schools
BIG 10 Money is KING….UNC to BIG 10 w/ FSU…book it!
~0%
UNC realizing the ACC could screw them out of their Womens Lacrosse and Field Hockey programs. 😂
who could the acc target to add?
Bombshell? Come on man don't be one of those guys, you are better than that. Dont become one of those sleezy folks.
He has been THAT for months. He is doing the bidding of the FSU AD trying to get the “mid-tiers” as he continually labels them to sign on their court case.
Why not have a pro ACC guest like Alex Donno from Locked on ACC and/or Kenton Gibbs from Locked on NC State. I would LOVE to see that discussion (debate, if you will). They take a completely different approach to this quandary.
Nah, you don’t debate Hitler. Some ideas are not worth the time to debate. I’m fine with the ACC doing whatever it wants, minus the teams who want to leave. The leadership failed to grow the conference at the rate of others. The leadership failed to add look in provisions which kept network pay in line with others. The penalty for poor management is good teams leaving.
Donno (not so secretly wants Miami to leave- has said it in a few videos). Kenton Gibbs is just bitter. That said, his tune would change immediately if rumors of the SEC wanting NCState started surfacing…….. for example, see how quick Candace Cooper’s opinion on this topic changed before she left when rumors of UNC wanting out surfaced
the SEC AND THE LITTLE TEN GOING TO BREAK OFF THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL and start there on league that what i see coming
I totally agree this channel is click bait
I was listening to "That SEC football podcast" Sankey wants to improve The SEC profile Basketball Profile. " Will add UNC, Clemson , Virginia, and Kansas. That last one shocked me. That will give both conferences 20 Teams. Sounds like the B2G and SEC offices have already worked it out. FSU and Miami will go to the B2G. You guys better get some Long Johns and Vaseline. It gets cold in Ames Iowa in November. You are right though several SEC teams have built new arenas. Hired several head liner coaches.
It doesn't get cold in Pennsylvania.
1 game in November. We are scared.😂😂😂
FTR: I would worry about us going after them, Iowa linemen. One or two a year.🤔
“Long Johns and Vaseline” 😂😂😂😂
You do realize the B10 makes more money! Also, Miami has been playing the games up North against Rutgers, Pitt, Maryland, Temple, Syracuse and BC since the 80's. FSU has been playing Pitt, BC and Syracuse for road games in October and November since 2004! If they are going to play in the NFL, they will have to play in the cold.
Is it me or why hasn't the acc gotten out front and tried to sue UNC? Seems like they have to. They have to justify their earlier actions or they are giving more ammunition to FSU.
See you soon Notre Dame! I am inevitable.
Sincerely,
The Big Ten
Haha, reel her in SLOWLY!
Fantasy
@@ChrisSadowski-pp1np Inevitability
@@briggsofdisaster not as long as they want Independence. Not as long as NBC gives them respectable money. Not as long as they have playoff access. Not as long as they have a conference for Olympic sports.
@@ChrisSadowski-pp1npND not staying in an ACC without FSU CLEMSON UNC MIAMI NC STATE UVA etc
You need to get to the point you've talked for 5 minutes
That's what she said lol😂😂😂😂
How about more news and less editorializing.
Limited supply of news. People don’t watch us for us to repeat main stream news. The editorializing is the product.
TJ wants FSU to leave the ACC. We want to join the B1G. Thats what all these podcasts are getting at. The sooner the better. Go Noles
Curious... For how long and by how many professionals must it be reported that CLEMSON and FSU are low expansion priorities for the SEC (and B1G)?
Need to form a new FOOTBALL CENTRIC CONFERENCE. Call it the Elite 12 or 16. Make a new TV Deal. Why are we paying Wake? BC? Puke? GT? Da Cuse?
That exists. It’s called the NFL
a) WAKE, DUKE and GATECH were already members when FSU joined.
b) FSU pushed for the additions of BC and CUSE.
There’s Nothing New Here- it’s unc bot trustees politics. Also the unc bot member who said go to higher revenue league or reconstructed Acc is also running for NC public office. There’s no realignment announcement, nor lawsuit announcement. NOTHing has Changed- the Board of Governors runs this show.
As the handwriting is on the wall with Clemson and FSU making noise about leaving, they shouldn’t be allowed to play for the conference championship. All in or all out
Good way for the ACC to lose their lawsuit if they do that.
AD's don't have the final say, so Good Ole Bubby needs to set this one out. #goheels
SEC..SEC..SEC
Epic ….
This is a bunch of bs
For those Tar Hole fans lolol
Click bait once again! You have no shame! Anything for someone to click!
Zero shame or fucks given. Matt we love you. Don’t stop clicking ❤️
The holes will go to WAC or AAC, where the can win!!!
Check the NC AD financials...bet dollars to doughnuts he's benefiting from the ACC deal
Bombshell....the 🤡🤡🤡 favorite word🤣😂🤣
Good info TJ. For all the bitching about your content, there seems to be a ton of people tuning in.
Yep. Thanks!