@@atm2959 use more than 2 braincells for 1 minute. In 1933 do you think dinosaurs were know like nowadays? Most people just reading a description thought "wow that things is very big and looks scary he must eat MEAT" Even scientist till 1950 thought dinosaurs were just big,dumb lizards that eated only meat.
@@helast3916 So? He was just surprised that he'd never seen a meat eating sauropod portrayed in a film before. it's not like he's saying "haha, this movie is dumb"
Great experiment! I think the best would be to make smoother the stop motion segments, but keeping the original motion of the actors, to match both things closer. I don't even know if something like that would be possible.
@@RED01SEA Motion blur (real or digital) is the most effective secret to smooth motion. Smaller movements per frame can also help, but without blur, Stop-Motion animation (without added digital blur) will always have at least a somewhat strobed look. Even Live Action footage shot with Fast Shutter Speeds reduces natural movement blur so much, that there is even a strobing effect with that, too! Examples of filmakers deliberately embracing the strobing effects caused by filming with Fast Shutter Speeds can be seen in the opening scene in Iraq of "The Excorcist" and many of the gladiator fights seen in Ridley Scott's "Gladiator."
I know it's hard to release fan edits sometimes without getting a cease and desist order from film companies these days, but I would love to see the entire film this way.
@@jackmcslay King Kong isn't public domain, it's just that it's really complicated who actually owns Kong. The rights for the character are strewn between the Cooper estate, Warner Bros (Legendary), Paramount, and Universal. If King Kong was public domain then everybody and their mother would be releasing King Kong movies.
I was prepared to say that it's difficult to improve on the original vision, but you know... This totally works for me. Way less jarring when the live action scenes are on top of the stop motion action. Thanks for your hard work!
The faster frame rate helps to a degree, but the reason go-motion was used in the 80s and early 90s is because it better mimics the blur effects. To really get the most out of stop motion with Kong, you’d need a higher frame rate while simultaneously increasing the number of frames for a limb to move (to give the illusion of scale).
Impressive that the film makers considered the physics of Kong stopping that plane with him reeling backwards instead of him stopping it dead in its tracks.
"Choppy stop-motion!"...there was not choppy stop-motion almost 100 years ago there were THE INCREDIBLE VISUAL EFFECTS THAT BRING SUCH FANTASTIC CREATURES ALIVE...
@FireEntity it’s not sped up at all, just many more frames thus more information to represent a second (24 vs 60fps). The higher the frame rate the more scrutiny it demands. At 24fps our minds fill in the gaps. Watch Gemini Man at 60fps.
KING KONG 1933 was definitely the "Star Wars" of its time! An amazing fantasy world successfully created using every special effects trick available at the time!
@@voronOsphere it was still horrible. Ill never understand why it has such a cult following. Is it because of the time frame and their limit resources as far as movie making then?
@@miserylovesmycompany.91 What exactly are you complaining about? In a world of musicals, gangster films, drama and the odd western KING KONG was a uique event in 1933. A great experiment in film making that has influenced cinema like few other films. And today's cinema movies seem to consist exclusively of forgettable FX films. So what is the exact point of calling KONG "horrible"?
Some of the fight scenes look better, but the scenes of Kong on his own look worse. I do think the rougher/low frame rate look of the original adds a sort of "realness" to the film that is hard to replicate even today
Interpolation is always neat to watch, but it's important to remember that it can undermine the source material/original artist's intent as well. The greater the degree of interpolation, the more artificial something begins to look. Interpolation AI calculates very direct, straight lines of motion, whereas actually recording at a higher framerate, or employing an 'inbetweener' approach with animation maintains the human element that makes things look more lifelike. Personally, I think interpolating the framerate to 8x the artificially and then arbitrarily hacking it back down to 60 just makes it look stale and robotic. Nifty to watch, for sure - high framerates are very pleasing to the eye. But I don't really think it adds any artistic value; if anything, it takes it away and makes the original illusions look even less convincing.
@Shadow Samurai 1. First off all his species is not named kong. He is named kong 2. Cry all you want he literally is just a giant gorilla. Well atleast for the 2005 kong and anything before that because while the monsterverse king kong may just be a giant gorilla too his stance makes him a bit for than a gorilla
@@lunaanims8171 you've clearly never studied gorillas. I think you're just joking, though and mocking the kids who are picking sides for the big CGI popcorn flick, which really has nothing to do with Kong 1933.
The 1933 classic is still the best.To create stop motion movements must have meant having the patience of a saint.Yet what we got was an absolute classic,which still holds up today nearly 90 years later.Ray Harryhausen,who gave us movies such as Jason & the Argonauts,The Sinbad movies,20 million miles to earth,the Valley of Gwangi & Mysterious Island,was inspired to become a stop motion creator from watching King Kong as a youth.
Can we appreciate the hard work this people have done back in 1933? That is hard to do for a whole hour movie, stop motion takes time and work to do it, and is not easy, sense you need to stop between segments to keep moving whatever objects, respect to the people of 1933 for their nice original movie effects of hard work and sweat, today things are easy with the technology, but back then was hard, respect for them.
@@incogneeto982 Just how packed do you think the traditional job market is? Make it cheaper to produce hand drawn, cell animations and you'll increase the number of jobs in a massively reduced business that CG animation has destroyed instead of killing it further.
@@JoseGarcia-rg3dx Obviously, they're not using this particular technology that amazingly generates new in-between Stop-Motion frames from thin air rather elegantly.
Wow! That made a big difference in the animation, much smoother. O'brien did the best he could considering the the tools and technology that he had at the time. It is still a masterpiece no matter what film rate it is shown at.
Well the funny thing is they probably wouldn’t notice much of a difference other than the colorization and more crisp visuals. The black and white film itself has a slow frame rate with flickers and skips so that audiences probably took for granted the jerky motion of the monster and people models. Remember, they removed the spider pit sequence from the original King Kong which supposedly played out pretty much like how Peter Jackson depicted it in 2005.
The separation between the actors and props feels clearer in the smoothed out footage. It really feels as if they're acting against a screen projection of the animations.
I concur that this looks much smoother and more fluid, for sure. Though the original was ground breaking for 1933, this makes it even better, and that's saying something. Well done, sir!
One pf my all time favorite films period!!!!! The original king kong 1933 started a whole generation of movies and inspired ray harryhausen and peter Jackson
I used Flowframes with RIFE to interpolate the framerate from 23.98 fps to 191.74 fps and then used FFMPEG to reduce that back to 60 fps. Flowframes is free and you can find it here: nmkd.itch.io/flowframes
Oh yes. Everything flows a lot more smoothly and everything definitely looks sharper. The performers appear like they've been superimposed from a high definition video. I've watched this movie since I was a kid and I can easily say that this is clearly an improvement. The difference is striking.
I agree. The change in the animated figures is subtle, but the live actors look like they were filmed yesterday, especially Fay Wray in the very beginning. If this is the so-called "soap opera effect," I'm all for it when it comes to movies from the thirties.
I was just wondering what AI interpolation would look like on stop-motion animation. Interesting that it doesn't really fully work. Yes, it's smoother, but it's still "jerky". I imagine this is because the hand-made animation wasn't fully "correct", and the greater number of frames per second just highlights that fact.
Yeah, this is because the stop-motion still moves almost every frame. It smooths out the transition between those frame, but it can't really touch the jerkiness of the original effort. With 2D animation this works better, as there there are often less frames drawn than the frame rate itself.
@@trashbot5675 More Frames Per Second is one way to smooth Stop-Motion Animation, but what you just mentioned about Motion Blur is even more of a fix, I believe. That's exactly what Stop-Motion lacks- Motion Blur. That's why it looks jerky or stroby.
Smoothing out existing jerky stop motion fills in the spaces with non existing frames. Smoothing the existing stop motion takes away the accentuation, the suddenness of things, etc. You'd have to start the entire animation again from scratch. If you do this to existing, original film footage, it takes away the drama. *Also:* back in the day, stop motion was meant to make people believe those 'giant monsters' could really exist and move around. Nowadays, we look at these original old stop motion sequences as works of art. Knowing it was all done by hand, frame by frame, makes the original work incredibly impressive. If you want smooth animation, make your own. Don't tarnish old masterworks.
In my opinion, the interpolated stop motion messes with the sound alignment as well. due to extra frames being added, the sound effects of kong and the dinosaurus look a little bit off from the audio. it also makes the animation less clear to look at. When the brontosaurus is moving its head, the interpolated animation blurs the animation so much that if you look at a specific frame, you can barely tell if its a brontosaurus or not.
It's a little TOO smooth for my tastes. Makes the actual humans look weird and the stop motion look like soap-opera quality footage... There's gotta' be an fps sweet spot somewhere in the middle.
It feels to artificial and like it was fixed by an AI. With the original, you feel the authenticity of the stop motion. With this one, everything feels crisp in the wrong places, but also greasy in the wrong places.
I prefer this to all the cgi. You just appreciate the work and effort that went into making it look this good. Same with the animatronics of the 80s like The Thing as an example of one of the best horror movies of all time
@@dracometeors3010 Well, you underestimate him, he had smooth animation in the three Sinbad films along with 20 million miles to Earth, and the Beast from 20,000 Fathoms.
@@TitanosaurusFan75 his smoothest Animations were in 20Million Miles to Earth and It came from Beneath the Sea, so in his early works. The Later ones were always a bit rougher. I consider this his style.
It looks all well and good when compared side by side, but when you see the original by itself again, it's just as powerful as before. The "smooth out- motion blur" is really only cosmetic surgery. It's no different than going back and erasing the the "jowls" in Bruce the shark in JAWS, or what Lucas has already done to heavily alter the original STAR WARS films. THE WIZARD OF OZ was rereleased in 3d in 2014, and while an interesting experiment, it will never replace the original masterpiece. Spielberg learned rhe ultimate lesson when he CGI-Ed "ET " to make the robot creature more fluid. People had a shit fit and he went back and put the original on the shelves again. Matte lines, jerky stop motion, Nannies and monkeys on wires, and chompy robot sharks still work when they are the alchemic product of masterful technicians, craftsmen, Artists and storytellers. I applaud your effort, but Kong is better left alone.
While Pauline Wagner- family friend.. is the Credited Stunt double in King Kong- My Grandmother Ruth Scott was also a stand in for Fay Wray, Vocally. My Grandmother supplied a lot of her screams to ensure that Fay Wray wouldn't strain her voice. Her career was in Singing among so many other things in her amazing life. Trust me when I say I've seen The Original King Kong MANY times! and I have to say it's never looked Better! Amazing work!
You will need to watch at 720p or above to see videos at higher framerates. So check your resolution first, if you can't see the difference. EDIT: I've done a much improved sequel to this video, check it out: th-cam.com/video/qxwaV7NEa6Y/w-d-xo.html
@ 0:41 - Brontosaurus attack at the tree. Here, the difference is quite noticeable. In the upgraded version, when the Brontosaurus brings its head around the side of the tree, it has a 3D effect. ~~~~~ There are a couple things wrong with this scene. 1) The Brontosaurus was a herbivore & supposedly docile. So, it wouldn’t have attacked anyone or anything. 2) In studying the size and shape of the skull, and the resonating chamber in it, the Brontosaurus skull is almost identical to a cow skull, only larger. So, the sound would be a cross between a cow’s moo & the lower rumblings of an elephant. Now, don’t get me wrong. I don’t know if that’s true, because I just made it up. But, you have to admit it! I had you buying it for a moment! And, you’re welcome!
These examples make for a compelling argument for such a restoration done in this manner. I noticed the live action looked more natural and smooth as well. We are so accustomed to viewing the jittery movement of the original stop-motion. The increased frame rate serves to show moreso that the animation was so brilliantly done.
Somehow these AI framerate smoothening things always end up either being almost invisible or totally ruin the shot they processed. The longneck scene here in particular looks just dreadful after the process.
You know, I thought this was going to look "gimmickey", when I saw the description, but as it went on, this was amazing. I would DEFINITELY watch the whole film like that. Great work!
That's a bizarre thing to love. There's no need to overshadow the pioneers that made these films so great. All he did was use technology to enhance their work, he didn't animate anything better.
@@Jojozilla426 It looks fucking awful, the movements look more unreal than the original. The director never intended for this movie to be watched this way.
I think the original one looks better because it has more personality to it. Like so many people up the framerate of perfectly fine things and I personally think it removes the personality of the animation or claymation or whatever it is.
Yeah, the filmmakers definitely cared more about the drama than realism. That being said... Did you know that even today, some (maybe even most) herbivorous animals may *rarely* eat meat? Like a cow reaching down to slurp up a snake, or a deer randomly reaching over to snatch a bird up in its jaws. This usually happens when the plants they usually eat aren't providing enough nutrients, like phosphorus? Casual Geographic has discussed this before.
The smoother version on the stop-motion animation is so good. Imagine someone remastered the movie by making all the stop-motion animation much smoother. If you could remaster "King Kong" by making all the stop-motion animation much smoother, that be great.
I honestly don't see a problem with the original! Amazing! These people didn't mess around with the tech of there time! It holds up no matter how you enhance it.
You still have to imagine that this was done in 1933. A year in which some of our grandfathers weren't even born yet. And I think it's still a wonderful film to watch today.
90 years later, and I'm still waiting for an explanation for how the hell an aquatic Plesiosaur made it all the way to the top of a dry, rocky mountaintop cave
I saw the movie on the big screen in March 2020 (right before theaters closed for quarantine). It holds up very well for being nearly 90 years old. It was quite enjoyable. While smoothing the stop motion causes a slight improvement, I think it's good enough to watch as-is. The main issue is that you can occasionally see some of O'Brien's finger impressions from moving the model between shots, and smoothing the animation doesn't change that.
I sure do wish that more modern film makers would use practical special effects, especially in horror movies! The human eye is amazing and can pick out CGI instantly. The 1980s had some crazy ass practical special effects that really pushed the limits of human creativity and ingenuity.
0:40 This is probably the first time I've seen a Brachiosaurus portrayed as a meat eater
This film is from 1933
@@helast3916 what's your point?
@@atm2959 use more than 2 braincells for 1 minute.
In 1933 do you think dinosaurs were know like nowadays?
Most people just reading a description thought "wow that things is very big and looks scary he must eat MEAT"
Even scientist till 1950 thought dinosaurs were just big,dumb lizards that eated only meat.
@@helast3916 So? He was just surprised that he'd never seen a meat eating sauropod portrayed in a film before. it's not like he's saying "haha, this movie is dumb"
Ah, but this is a Skull Island Brachiosaurus! They're all flesh-eaters on that warped and wicked isle.
Great experiment! I think the best would be to make smoother the stop motion segments, but keeping the original motion of the actors, to match both things closer. I don't even know if something like that would be possible.
Hola TobiAnimados
With a lot of editing and matting it'd be possible but thats a bit above my paygrade.
@@SirLalris Hola!
Tobi sos Team Godzilla o Kong?
It'd be kinda like Adywan’s Star Wars fan edits. ;)
Honestly, even the original stop motion looks great. Can't believe this was made 88 years ago.
Its a good movie than rise of the skywalker
It's cr4p by today's standards, but no doubt it was a great achievement in its day.
@@sovo1212 Even by today's standards it wasn't crap.
The one and only harryhausen
Just hit me reading this comment that I’m going to live to see King Kong’s 100th birthday
To this day, King Kong is in my top 5 movies of all time. It blew me away as in kid even in the 90s.
70s and 80s Classics. Original
Ngl fact this is like a 90 year old movie with this good of a stop motion production is enough low frame rates be damned
Ya know, the effects back then were pretty impressive.
I love 'em!
They really were a lot of times I sit and wonder how most effects were made way before computers and such were invented
is it just me or the smother one doesn't feel smother , it feel just faster , its still clunky but just quicker
@@RED01SEA Motion blur (real or digital) is the most effective secret to smooth motion.
Smaller movements per frame can also help, but without blur, Stop-Motion animation (without added digital blur) will always have at least a somewhat strobed look.
Even Live Action footage shot with Fast Shutter Speeds reduces natural movement blur so much, that there is even a strobing effect with that, too!
Examples of filmakers deliberately embracing the strobing effects caused by filming with Fast Shutter Speeds can be seen in the opening scene in Iraq of "The Excorcist" and many of the gladiator fights seen in Ridley Scott's "Gladiator."
Even from today's perspective, the way the stop motion interacts with the live action footage is really well done.
I know it's hard to release fan edits sometimes without getting a cease and desist order from film companies these days, but I would love to see the entire film this way.
I'm pretty positive the original king kong movie is public domain by now.
@@jackmcslay King Kong isn't public domain, it's just that it's really complicated who actually owns Kong. The rights for the character are strewn between the Cooper estate, Warner Bros (Legendary), Paramount, and Universal. If King Kong was public domain then everybody and their mother would be releasing King Kong movies.
Download the movie and get some interpolating software
@@jackmcslay RKOs library was bought by Universal so they own this movie.
@@c0l1n_m45 the original King Kong movie not the rights to King Kong the character
I was prepared to say that it's difficult to improve on the original vision, but you know... This totally works for me. Way less jarring when the live action scenes are on top of the stop motion action. Thanks for your hard work!
Glad you like it!
I dunno...it kinda speeds up their movement, to a certain extent. They seem to lose a certain weight to their movements with the higher framerate.
@@Chimpbot stfu 😑
@@jusbertmeza4424 Why, exactly? Because I dared to offer some sort of criticism?
Give me a break.
It does! Strangely I want the other Version to be the real thing.. I would buy it now..
The faster frame rate helps to a degree, but the reason go-motion was used in the 80s and early 90s is because it better mimics the blur effects.
To really get the most out of stop motion with Kong, you’d need a higher frame rate while simultaneously increasing the number of frames for a limb to move (to give the illusion of scale).
70s and 80s original.
Transformers star wars
Impressive that the film makers considered the physics of Kong stopping that plane with him reeling backwards instead of him stopping it dead in its tracks.
"...its tracks..."
@@dondragmer2412 Thanks for pointing out the ineptness of autocorrect within Gboard.
@@12secta81 I knew it, I was having problem with auto correct even though I turned it off in the settings.
Pretty sure physics and Intelligence existed years ago too
@@CosmicHarmony58 You're missing the point.
The effects to this day are amazing. There's something special about Kong 1933. He seems so real, regardless of the techological limitations.
This movie was way ahead of its time. People most have been I completely amazed by it back then.
1:41 I love the way he looks back like "Fuq this train."
"Choppy stop-motion!"...there was not choppy stop-motion almost 100 years ago there were THE INCREDIBLE VISUAL EFFECTS THAT BRING SUCH FANTASTIC CREATURES ALIVE...
It’s weird because when it’s smooth, it looses weight and size. It turns into a small puppet.
Not really, it’s still the exact same speed but with more frames
@FireEntity it’s not sped up at all, just many more frames thus more information to represent a second (24 vs 60fps). The higher the frame rate the more scrutiny it demands. At 24fps our minds fill in the gaps. Watch Gemini Man at 60fps.
Or maybe its still just as dumb and bad as it originally was?
Don't get me wrong it, it clearly is smoother. But even still, its terrible lol.
@@johnnyjacksted6528 it always was a puppet lol 😂
@@jusbertmeza4424 I take it you don’t know how the software works.
King Kong was truly ahead of its time
I saw the Peter Jackson King Kong first and I was surprised by how similarly epic in scope the 1933 version was.
@@CaptRobau In comparison to the Godzilla vs Kong the Peter Jackson King Kong was way better!
KING KONG 1933 was definitely the "Star Wars" of its time! An amazing fantasy world successfully created using every special effects trick available at the time!
@@voronOsphere it was still horrible. Ill never understand why it has such a cult following. Is it because of the time frame and their limit resources as far as movie making then?
@@miserylovesmycompany.91
What exactly are you complaining about?
In a world of musicals, gangster films, drama and the odd western KING KONG was a uique event in 1933. A great experiment in film making that has influenced cinema like few other films.
And today's cinema movies seem to consist exclusively of forgettable FX films.
So what is the exact point of calling KONG "horrible"?
Smoothing out this style of stop-motion is like trying to remove film grain from older films.
If it makes the movie look better without adding any fancy special effects to it then why complain? I don't mind simple changes like this.
@devontehuntley6274 it doesn't it makes it lame
@@HollowEarthBuddies No it doesn't. Some of these sequences actually looks better and not so "rushed" so get a clue.
Nah some of the scenes look better, the cave fight is an easy example
Some of the fight scenes look better, but the scenes of Kong on his own look worse. I do think the rougher/low frame rate look of the original adds a sort of "realness" to the film that is hard to replicate even today
Interpolation is always neat to watch, but it's important to remember that it can undermine the source material/original artist's intent as well. The greater the degree of interpolation, the more artificial something begins to look. Interpolation AI calculates very direct, straight lines of motion, whereas actually recording at a higher framerate, or employing an 'inbetweener' approach with animation maintains the human element that makes things look more lifelike. Personally, I think interpolating the framerate to 8x the artificially and then arbitrarily hacking it back down to 60 just makes it look stale and robotic. Nifty to watch, for sure - high framerates are very pleasing to the eye. But I don't really think it adds any artistic value; if anything, it takes it away and makes the original illusions look even less convincing.
When it is smoothed, the actors looked more super imposed. IMO the original captures more tension.
Can we appreciate that each bit is exactly 10 sec, so we can compare it simply by double clicking
silly how people just dismiss Kong as a "giant gorilla". He is clearly more than that and his own original creature.
Isn’t it usually meant as a joke?
this comment is dumb, he is JUST a gorilla, deal with it
@Shadow Samurai 1. First off all his species is not named kong. He is named kong
2. Cry all you want he literally is just a giant gorilla. Well atleast for the 2005 kong and anything before that because while the monsterverse king kong may just be a giant gorilla too his stance makes him a bit for than a gorilla
@@lunaanims8171 you've clearly never studied gorillas. I think you're just joking, though and mocking the kids who are picking sides for the big CGI popcorn flick, which really has nothing to do with Kong 1933.
Yeah. 2005 was horrible, Kong looked like a plain ole silverback off discovery channel.
A truly brilliant achievement , to think this was made in 1933 , it still amazes me and I wouldn’t change a thing about it
We're only 12 years from its 100th anniversary 😮
The 1933 classic is still the best.To create stop motion movements must have meant having the patience of a saint.Yet what we got was an absolute classic,which still holds up today nearly 90 years later.Ray Harryhausen,who gave us movies such as Jason & the Argonauts,The Sinbad movies,20 million miles to earth,the Valley of Gwangi & Mysterious Island,was inspired to become a stop motion creator from watching King Kong as a youth.
Can we appreciate the hard work this people have done back in 1933? That is hard to do for a whole hour movie, stop motion takes time and work to do it, and is not easy, sense you need to stop between segments to keep moving whatever objects, respect to the people of 1933 for their nice original movie effects of hard work and sweat, today things are easy with the technology, but back then was hard, respect for them.
This technology could replace human "in-between-ers" to make more traditional style animated cartoons affordable to produce again!
Downside is less jobs and as a result, less opportunities to break into the career
@@incogneeto982 Just how packed do you think the traditional job market is?
Make it cheaper to produce hand drawn, cell animations and you'll increase the number of jobs in a massively reduced business that CG animation has destroyed instead of killing it further.
Little did you know, they’ve *been* using tweening technology in modern cartoons.
And it looks like shit too.
@@JoseGarcia-rg3dx Obviously, they're not using this particular technology that amazingly generates new in-between Stop-Motion frames from thin air rather elegantly.
@@incogneeto982 Those "in-between-er" animation jobs are either overseas or gone completely.
Even at the original frame rate, this is still an amazing film.
Wow! That made a big difference in the animation, much smoother. O'brien did the best he could considering the the tools and technology that he had at the time. It is still a masterpiece no matter what film rate it is shown at.
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Now that I saw this imagine what people's reactions back then if we show them all the modern godzilla and king kong movies
It would be funny if we told them this video is from future
Well the funny thing is they probably wouldn’t notice much of a difference other than the colorization and more crisp visuals.
The black and white film itself has a slow frame rate with flickers and skips so that audiences probably took for granted the jerky motion of the monster and people models.
Remember, they removed the spider pit sequence from the original King Kong which supposedly played out pretty much like how Peter Jackson depicted it in 2005.
@@maxfieldstanton5005 did you just say there isn’t much difference between this and Godzilla vs kong?
@@maxfieldstanton5005 wait nvm I’m being a fucking idiot, ignore what I said
They’ll probably have a heart attack.
The separation between the actors and props feels clearer in the smoothed out footage. It really feels as if they're acting against a screen projection of the animations.
I can't believe people are praising this. It's like turning on brightness and call it remaster
Yes I agree there is hardly any difference.
@@hnorrstrom Yep, the original could have made smaller movements and a higher frame rate, it just doesn't really add that much to the experience.
I love how in the first scene kong does an arm jig like "ooh boy it's my lucky day!"
He does that a couple of times, usually after beating a dinosaur and before picking up Anne Darrow.
@@maxfieldstanton5005 "Ooh boy time to beat up a dinosaur!"
Okay, I kinda wanna watch the whole film at this frame rate now
Be careful. That's just what Peter Jackson thought...
@@desiv1170 Peter Jackson King Kong was 10x better than the Trash Kong vs Godzilla that just came out.
@@Wallyworld30 🤨
@@Wallyworld30 I'm not even going to validate that sentence as an opinion.
@@Wallyworld30 🙄
I concur that this looks much smoother and more fluid, for sure. Though the original was ground breaking for 1933, this makes it even better, and that's saying something. Well done, sir!
One pf my all time favorite films period!!!!! The original king kong 1933 started a whole generation of movies and inspired ray harryhausen and peter Jackson
Totally right! It was the Star Wars of its time!
0:22 I hate when people be covering the screen in the movie theatre and taking their sweet ass time to get out the way. Can ya’ll relate?
Yep
I don't think this Comment suppose to be a joke or what?
it's a joke about how the people in the movie seem like they're actually outside of it
@@surefresh8412 exactly
@@alifakbar778 what?
The smoother version makes it feel like a entirely different movie
This really makes a difference. How was it achieved?
I used Flowframes with RIFE to interpolate the framerate from 23.98 fps to 191.74 fps and then used FFMPEG to reduce that back to 60 fps. Flowframes is free and you can find it here: nmkd.itch.io/flowframes
Magic
@@CaptRobau I like your funny words, Magic Man
I use my TV to watch movies like this. People usually complain and say, “I hate the soap opera feature”
It was achieved by editing the original
Miss these type of films, the screams from the humans are hilarious. When I was a kid I used to watch all the Sinbad movies as well
Oh yeah the Sinbad movies were great!
A very efficient way to rob the original work of its weight and character, while also ruining the rear projection effects.
画質と動きが滑らかになればいいということが逆説的にわかるな。
画質が良くなり、動きが滑らかになればなるほど違和感が気になりはじめる。
これからの時代はむしろ「いかに適切に、画質と画面の情報量を落とすか」という計算の時代になる。
日本の漫画やTVアニメが作業量や予算削減のために映画から導入した方法だけど、この計算の発達が「映画的であること」を生む魔法のタネになった。
I’d say it some shots it looks really good and others it makes the stop motion a bit more wonky and unbelievable
Oh yes. Everything flows a lot more smoothly and everything definitely looks sharper. The performers appear like they've been superimposed from a high definition video. I've watched this movie since I was a kid and I can easily say that this is clearly an improvement. The difference is striking.
I agree. The change in the animated figures is subtle, but the live actors look like they were filmed yesterday, especially Fay Wray in the very beginning. If this is the so-called "soap opera effect," I'm all for it when it comes to movies from the thirties.
@@TPOrchestra
It's Fay Wray.
@@TPOrchestra i personally hate the look of the soap opera effect, but to each his own
I was just wondering what AI interpolation would look like on stop-motion animation. Interesting that it doesn't really fully work. Yes, it's smoother, but it's still "jerky". I imagine this is because the hand-made animation wasn't fully "correct", and the greater number of frames per second just highlights that fact.
Yeah, this is because the stop-motion still moves almost every frame. It smooths out the transition between those frame, but it can't really touch the jerkiness of the original effort. With 2D animation this works better, as there there are often less frames drawn than the frame rate itself.
@@CaptRobau It would be interesting to try this with something modern like "Coraline" or "Kubo and the Two Strings".
@@CaptRobau when I animate I usually add digital motion blur in post I wonder if you did that before interpolating if it would make a difference
@@trashbot5675 More Frames Per Second is one way to smooth Stop-Motion Animation, but what you just mentioned about Motion Blur is even more of a fix, I believe. That's exactly what Stop-Motion lacks- Motion Blur.
That's why it looks jerky or stroby.
@@trashbot5675 I bet the 2 techniques together would be amazing!
Smoothing out existing jerky stop motion fills in the spaces with non existing frames.
Smoothing the existing stop motion takes away the accentuation, the suddenness of things, etc.
You'd have to start the entire animation again from scratch.
If you do this to existing, original film footage, it takes away the drama.
*Also:* back in the day, stop motion was meant to make people believe those 'giant monsters' could really exist and move around.
Nowadays, we look at these original old stop motion sequences as works of art.
Knowing it was all done by hand, frame by frame, makes the original work incredibly impressive.
If you want smooth animation, make your own.
Don't tarnish old masterworks.
In my opinion, the interpolated stop motion messes with the sound alignment as well. due to extra frames being added, the sound effects of kong and the dinosaurus look a little bit off from the audio. it also makes the animation less clear to look at. When the brontosaurus is moving its head, the interpolated animation blurs the animation so much that if you look at a specific frame, you can barely tell if its a brontosaurus or not.
It's a little TOO smooth for my tastes. Makes the actual humans look weird and the stop motion look like soap-opera quality footage... There's gotta' be an fps sweet spot somewhere in the middle.
29.97fps.
@@omegafire6253 🤣🤣🤣
I love soap opera effect 🤩🤩
The problem is there's no motion blur on the stop motion
@@the_dook2145 YES! That's a big part of it!
It is a fantasy as are all films of this genre. The "imperfect" stop-action contributes to the dream. Keep it as originally created. IMHO.
It feels to artificial and like it was fixed by an AI. With the original, you feel the authenticity of the stop motion. With this one, everything feels crisp in the wrong places, but also greasy in the wrong places.
I prefer this to all the cgi. You just appreciate the work and effort that went into making it look this good. Same with the animatronics of the 80s like The Thing as an example of one of the best horror movies of all time
Looks like Ray Harryhausen smoothness seen in his 1950s/60s works.
It looks even better.
@@dracometeors3010 Clearly, you haven't seen the master at his work.
@@TitanosaurusFan75 i have seen every Harryhausen Movie and he never made it smooth.
@@dracometeors3010 Well, you underestimate him, he had smooth animation in the three Sinbad films along with 20 million miles to Earth, and the Beast from 20,000 Fathoms.
@@TitanosaurusFan75 his smoothest Animations were in 20Million Miles to Earth and It came from Beneath the Sea, so in his early works. The Later ones were always a bit rougher.
I consider this his style.
Makes the creatures looks more life like in more fluid movements
Weirdly it seems more realistic without smoother stop motion
Love how at 0:05 he was about to beat his chest and then stopped when she kept screaming as if he knew it wasn’t gonna help
I love not being able to make out the details of a plane or not be able to discern weather kongs hand is open or closed
The smoother frame rate definitely gives the stop-motion effects a greater sense of dimension and depth to them. Very interesting. :)
I really think the jerkiness is part of its charm. This is like "colourizing" a beautiful black and white film to make it more contemporary.
You're right...when i saw king the firts time 53 years ago i was conviced monsters moved like that..and it gives to the creatures a creepiness..
Very interesting. I think once you get used to it, you end up liking how smooth it looks.
It looks all well and good when compared side by side, but when you see the original by itself again, it's just as powerful as before. The "smooth out- motion blur" is really only cosmetic surgery. It's no different than going back and erasing the the "jowls" in Bruce the shark in JAWS, or what Lucas has already done to heavily alter the original STAR WARS films. THE WIZARD OF OZ was rereleased in 3d in 2014, and while an interesting experiment, it will never replace the original masterpiece. Spielberg learned rhe ultimate lesson when he CGI-Ed "ET " to make the robot creature more fluid. People had a shit fit and he went back and put the original on the shelves again. Matte lines, jerky stop motion, Nannies and monkeys on wires, and chompy robot sharks still work when they are the alchemic product of masterful technicians, craftsmen, Artists and storytellers. I applaud your effort, but Kong is better left alone.
While Pauline Wagner- family friend.. is the Credited Stunt double in King Kong- My Grandmother Ruth Scott was also a stand in for Fay Wray, Vocally. My Grandmother supplied a lot of her screams to ensure that Fay Wray wouldn't strain her voice. Her career was in Singing among so many other things in her amazing life. Trust me when I say I've seen The Original King Kong MANY times! and I have to say it's never looked Better!
Amazing work!
You will need to watch at 720p or above to see videos at higher framerates. So check your resolution first, if you can't see the difference.
EDIT: I've done a much improved sequel to this video, check it out: th-cam.com/video/qxwaV7NEa6Y/w-d-xo.html
@@RV14S He said 720p and above. Please read this carefully sir.
When you see the it, it’s trippy but so good 😎
@ 0:41 - Brontosaurus attack at the tree.
Here, the difference is quite noticeable. In the upgraded version, when the Brontosaurus brings its head around the side of the tree, it has a 3D effect.
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There are a couple things wrong with this scene.
1) The Brontosaurus was a herbivore & supposedly docile. So, it wouldn’t have attacked anyone or anything.
2) In studying the size and shape of the skull, and the resonating chamber in it, the Brontosaurus skull is almost identical to a cow skull, only larger. So, the sound would be a cross between a cow’s moo & the lower rumblings of an elephant.
Now, don’t get me wrong. I don’t know if that’s true, because I just made it up. But, you have to admit it! I had you buying it for a moment!
And, you’re welcome!
Me: sees this comment after watching the video on lower quality.
Also me: "Guess I have to watch it again."
Mine has 720p60 and 1080p60, though.
Well done. I'm jealous. You get to see the entire film like this.
On some smart tvs you can change the frame rates of movies
@@davida6146 yes, but live filtering is by far not as good quality as a slow postprocessing is
1:00 Godzilla vs King Jong looks great!
*Kong
It almost makes the puppets look like they’re actually moving and being filmed in real time
These examples make for a compelling argument for such a restoration done in this manner. I noticed the live action looked more natural and smooth as well. We are so accustomed to viewing the jittery movement of the original stop-motion. The increased frame rate serves to show moreso that the animation was so brilliantly done.
Somehow these AI framerate smoothening things always end up either being almost invisible or totally ruin the shot they processed. The longneck scene here in particular looks just dreadful after the process.
I forgot that they had a ferocious apatosaurus in the original.
And carnivorous, too!
hey the og still looks pretty good.
These originals are priceless. A work of art.
At this point, I really can’t tell the difference between this and Kong: skull island.
It’s absolutely bonkers!
You know, I thought this was going to look "gimmickey", when I saw the description, but as it went on, this was amazing. I would DEFINITELY watch the whole film like that. Great work!
This is why I love watching your videos because you make The Professionals look like sport teachers.
Thank you for your hard work keep it up.
It's rude to be calling the actual filmmakers "Sport teachers".
That's a bizarre thing to love. There's no need to overshadow the pioneers that made these films so great. All he did was use technology to enhance their work, he didn't animate anything better.
It's just seems as if you sped it up. The original looks better for most of the shots.
No it doesn't wtf it looks great
@@Jojozilla426 It all based on your experience. 60fps films always throw me off, other than FPS shooters that run at 60fps
@@Jojozilla426 It looks fucking awful, the movements look more unreal than the original. The director never intended for this movie to be watched this way.
It's quite impressive, how they managed to get it done back then with limited amount of resources and only with great brains & tricks.
I think the original one looks better because it has more personality to it. Like so many people up the framerate of perfectly fine things and I personally think it removes the personality of the animation or claymation or whatever it is.
0:50 a sauropod eating a human, how realistic.
In a Nightmare Jungle, it makes total sense.
Yeah, the filmmakers definitely cared more about the drama than realism.
That being said...
Did you know that even today, some (maybe even most) herbivorous animals may *rarely* eat meat? Like a cow reaching down to slurp up a snake, or a deer randomly reaching over to snatch a bird up in its jaws. This usually happens when the plants they usually eat aren't providing enough nutrients, like phosphorus? Casual Geographic has discussed this before.
The smoother version on the stop-motion animation is so good. Imagine someone remastered the movie by making all the stop-motion animation much smoother. If you could remaster "King Kong" by making all the stop-motion animation much smoother, that be great.
This is certainly an improvement! Man, I would LOVE a copy of this movie done this way!
I hope they bring out a full film version, 8x makes a meaningful improvement to a classic that deserves love and attention.
I honestly don't see a problem with the original! Amazing! These people didn't mess around with the tech of there time! It holds up no matter how you enhance it.
It’s still choppy. The actors themselves get smoother but the monsters look like animatronic malfunctions.
Man.. this looks scary in 60 fps, i love it!
That was way too smooth. Somehow makes the models look like toys. Original all the way.
man imagine a studio like Laika doing a modern stop motion godzilla. Idk if it'd be better than cgi godzilla, but it'd still be pretty dang sick
I couldn't see too much improvement in the stop-motion but the actors movement improvement was so good it scared me!
Definitely smoother and more high-definition, but it ultimately still looks like obviously primitive stop-motion animation.
The stop motion isn't even any smoother, it's literally just sped up.
FINALLY someone said it. Thank you. I was beginning to think I was the only one who REALLY knows what he's looking at.
Yeah it's not really the "smooth" I was expecting
He has added 170 fps dude, If you don't know about this stfu.
@@alejandro10751 yeah and it still just looks sped up
@@alejandro10751 doesn't make the stop motion any less wack
1:28 gvk in a nutshell
The movie is nothing like that lol
Kong vs Nozuki
@@dr.dankytp8683 No, Warbats were actually reference for those Cave serpents
That 8 × smoother just killed this movie.original is the besy
You still have to imagine that this was done in 1933. A year in which some of our grandfathers weren't even born yet. And I think it's still a wonderful film to watch today.
8x times better
I think it really does look better to a certain degree but it also makes the artifical nature of their movement much easier to see imo
This film is 10 years away from being a century old and it's still inspiring future generations. I love King Kong
Although it looks much better with the smoother stop-motion, the original stop-motion is actually really good for 1933👌
Well, frankly, if it did, the production back then would've taken YEARS to make. But it remains impressive, given a 1933 film.
Oh god Kong is becoming public domain in 2 years isn't it.
90 years later, and I'm still waiting for an explanation for how the hell an aquatic Plesiosaur made it all the way to the top of a dry, rocky mountaintop cave
I saw the movie on the big screen in March 2020 (right before theaters closed for quarantine). It holds up very well for being nearly 90 years old. It was quite enjoyable. While smoothing the stop motion causes a slight improvement, I think it's good enough to watch as-is. The main issue is that you can occasionally see some of O'Brien's finger impressions from moving the model between shots, and smoothing the animation doesn't change that.
Better than other budgetted movies we have today.
I sure do wish that more modern film makers would use practical special effects, especially in horror movies!
The human eye is amazing and can pick out CGI instantly. The 1980s had some crazy ass practical special effects that really pushed the limits of human creativity and ingenuity.
Honestly, having a screen 88 years ago was a privilege.