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Hi-Lo gearboxes are pretty common in the 4x4 world, but they never really took off in the motorcycle world. We split open a vintage Suzuki with a dual ratio gearbox to understand why.
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nobody will ever find this comment buried 7 pages down the list but maybe someone at FortNine reads all these things and will find this little tidbit interesting: that spider encrusted in dirt ... well that is exactly what it is. There is a family (genus?) of wasps out there that hunt and paralyze spiders which they then encase in little crypts made of mud and lay their eggs inside of them. The spiders stay fresh so that when the eggs finally hatch the young wasps have something to feed upon.
I read this
I read this too.
I regret reading this
What a random yet awesome piece of information!! Love it! Nature is brutal!!
Mud Daubers. Always on my bikes if they sit too long.
Hi-Lo, everyone!
Why Hi-Lo there!
Hi-Lo to you too 👋
🤦🏼♂️
Take my damn upvote and get out.
BADUM-TSS 😂
I watch this channel for both Ryan and 45 now. 45, whatever your real name is, thanks for bringing a fine new perspective to FortNine.
Thats 46, bro
His name is 45
@@neillthompson2 It's not tho, 45 is awol this is 46
Never mind 45/46 I want Seven of Nine!🤣
@@neillthompson2 2:40
46 working hard in the mountains while 45 is on the run😆
didn`t he died in the last video?
@@ThePurificator69420 That was a couple videos ago. Watch the flyfishing one! Turns out he's alive and living it up in the wilds :)
@@notsuchabadguy that is 46 isnt it
@@BenjaminLupton I'm pretty sure *this* is 46
He say Ryan wannabe brade runner.
in today’s bike review media landscape where all we see are the new flashy bikes with all the gizmos, features, and price tag of a car, I appreciate F9 shining the light on all the old, quirky, but also fun bikes that deserve a second look
This is all I want to see more of. Spotlighting the weird, clever or just interesting bikes that got overlooked historically.
While Ryan and co are obligated to also look at the new and do a great job of both (and sundry other things such as helmets, gear, home-made workshop stands and cloning mechanics) Bart solely looks at the past and I greatly appreciate him for it.
I’m old. But a huge fan of sports bikes. The first F9 video I ever saw, was Ryan F9 testing the Royal Enfield Interceptor. That epic almost convinced me to buy one, AND, I haven’t missed a post since!
@@robertchapman6795 that video directly influenced me to buy that RE Continental GT as my first bike!
@@motoyoku good choice! I hope RF9 got his cut! 😉👍
Poor 46, doesn't know what's coming.
Shhhhhhh !!! 🤐
Hopefully they fix the depth perception problems in 47.
The missing the bin made me happier than it should!
Dude made a sport of missing the bin. Actually impressed that not more went in.
Seriously, what a great bit. That part of the video had every right to be a mundane tear-down, but nope.
I want to see the outtakes. Just how many times did he accidentally hit?
I think 46 is more self aware then previous clones
They. Never. Fail. The constancy of greatness is just amazing. They nail it Every. Single. Time.
The script is perfect, the scenery as well, the acting is out of this world, and the conclusion makes you shed a tear of joy.
F9, you are a hell of a treasure.
In b4:
- I don't even ride motorcycles but it's my favorite channel
- Man the cinematography is through the roof video after another
- I really start liking the new guy
- I've never clicked the like button so fast before
Hahhahahah that’s perfect!
You forgot one
- where’s Ryan? Why isn’t Ryan uploading?
This is what every motorcycle space on the internet is like now…
Just people who don’t ride over saturating and monopolizing the conversation with things not even related to the motorcycles.
It’s fine, it’s good for the channels growth, it’s entertaining to a lot of folk and no one is really being hurt- it’s just unfortunate everyone uses our communities as hangout spaces and less and less of the populace actually wants to talk shop
@autosearpin it’s a symptom of a worldwide decay in the whole of society that’s become content to sit and watch everything rot while super comfy in their own little “world”
@@AutoSearPin "Our communities"? Dude, people actually need to be introduced into a hobby, none of us are born with mechanical knowledge. I understand that you simply wish to see more advanced discussion, but alienating beginners is just gatekeeping, whether or not that is your intended purpose.
The Hi/Lo gearbox on the Honda CT90s from my youth is what made it great. If their new CT125 had the same set up I would have bought one in a heartbeat.
That has held me back from the trail 125 too!
I used the low range on my Trail 90s often. Even on bikes with plenty of torque it's nice to have a super low gear where you can duck walk really slow at times.
Peugeot used to make a 125cc scooter with a supercharger, the Jetforce. I've always wondered why they bothered, but the idea of a supercharged Honda Trail is fascinating.
Also used on the early '80s CB900 Custom - but more as a way to shift drive to the right side for the shaft drive system than because it needed more gearing.
@@AshleyPomeroy Couple things i guess: 1. With how driving licenses were set up in Europe 125cc was the limit for a lower class. More power than the competition is good.
2. Its cool
Honestly, its incredibly unfair how much charisma the folks on this channel contain. Leave some for the rest of us, dudes.
I wonder how many tries it took to get to the charisma of 46.
Like surely number 1 was a doofus. But did it take them until number 15 to have a charismatic thing, or was it much more complicated and they only figured it out later?
Get you high, when you're feeling low ❤
Sounds like a Chemical Bros song.
Smoke weed
Only know you love her when you let her go
A friend of mine has 4 1975 Suzuki RV125's all restored. Fun bikes we race each other around his yard on them all the time so much fun.
Learned to ride motorcycles on that very bike in 1974. Can’t remember having the high-low on it though… had tons of fun on my uncles farm with my cousins on that bike! It planted the seed in me and have had bikes ever since! 😎
The great music is doing some heavy lifting here... still love it!
I don’t even own a bike anymore but the quality content, information and pure entertainment of this channel keeps me watching and waiting for the next video drop. You guys rock!
I bought a blown up 72 kawasaki g4 100, with the cable actuated hi-lo on the handelbar. Just on a whim, without ever so much as sitting on a motorcycle before. i spent an entire springs worth of long nights in the garage rebuilding the thing from the ground up and taught myself how to ride on it. In part, inspired by your guys' youtube channel. 3 years later, im adicted to motorcycles. It's my spare bike now, but i still get the same rush of smiles when i ride it as the first time i kicked it over and heard it purr
I’ve literally just finished restoring a TC90! Bought it because I loved Ryan’s “400km journey on a $400 bike” video and it’s absolutely delightful!
Love for motorcycles grew while watching this channel for years, finally got one 6months ago, a scooter though, brought all gears.
Crashed recently, I rear ended someone, broke a collarbone, still watching fortnine while mom is raising hell about riding bikes and with a healing fracture... look forward to riding again😂! Safe riding everyone.
Don't forget that the original Honda CT series, starting in 67, all had two range gearboxes. When they brought out the new 125 recently, us traditionalists were giving Big H raspberries because the new bike didn't have it (and needed it).
Also need to point out that all these Honda bikes were four stroke. The hi lo gear box was by no means a product of two cycle technology. It was due to underpowered small bore sales making Japanese so much money. They were the only one in the game. I mean Harley small bore stuff was a joke.
F9 making the motorcycle stuff we need. Living in Japan, I see people cherishing all types of bikes from various decades. It’s refreshing! F9 encourages us to do that, not just looking at what’s newest and shiniest
Bring back hi lo gearboxes! T dubs KLRs and DRs would benefit greatly. Same with Hondas ct125
Thanks so much for doing the teardown; I've been itching to figure out how it worked since your other vids the HI/LO in it.
What beautiful scenery
So simple but really cool! That would be amazing a TW
Would love it on my tdubs!
Not nearly as seamless to transition, but a few guys have done double sprockets on tw's.
@@rbutter9200 yeah i remember that, not as nice but still cool
The only channel I watch specifically for the sponsor spots. Thanks, Flying Eyes.
I love watching FortNite on Thursday evenings!
Always with the quality F9. Excelent work from all of the crew again and again.
What an absolute LEGEND this man is!
Beautiful cinematography coupled with an entertaining subject as usual, but what caught my attention was while the Flying Eyes were being plugged, I could see Wera tools on the bench.
My brother and I grew up on the same bike. Dad would take us for miles fishing every piece of water that would have a trout in it. I on the front hanging on the cross bar with the rods, dad driving, and brother on the back with the creel basket. Fond memories.
I love the synth wave music in these videos.
Me too, I'm STILL waiting for them to add music credits to the videos so I can go support the artists.
@@axiss5840its Stardriver by Elfl
46 86'd by the weather. Great show. And 46, I finally accept you as a member of Fort9. Good man.
Thank you forty-six and Ryan for all the thought and effort you put into your videos! I always wait with baited breath for the next one to come out and get a joyful glint in my eye when i see a new vid up on YT!
I have a TC125 that I spent a couple years casually seeking out after I learned about it - super fun to see you highlight that family of bikes for all the same reasons I went looking for one! They're just so little compared to modern dirt bikes; way easier to throw it around and I can flat foot it. It felt like a lower skill bar to entry into getting a dual sport. I love mine.
Almost forgot you were Canadian until the "we're hosed." Love it.
Hadn't thought about my dad's 1975 Suzuki TC-185 with the dual-range transmission in a while now. All the memories came flooding back! Thanks FortNine and 45!
Love the whole atmosphere of this video.
f9's creative department hella cooking everytime 🙏🏻
My grandfathers Honda Big Red 3 wheeler had a high/low gear. It was great for towing or doing technical off road terrain in the Canada bush
Very cool use of the ball bearings.... I just tore the engine apart on my 2019 1250gs the transmission in it also seemed pretty straight forward..and much cleaner !
It was that very bike that I learnt to ride around half a century ago. Thanks for the memories. 👍😎
I just can't get over how good this channel is... and it's crazy that they just specialize in motorcycles, because channels this good tend to cover much broader topics.
My first bike at 14 was a '79 Suzuki TS/ER185, only used for "green laning" ... I loved that bike for years, and when I eventually replaced it with a CR-250 I decided to sell it for peanuts to some random teens (thinking they'd have the same experience I did)
....I found the burnt-wreckage of it a couple of weeks later in the local woods. Bastards!
Great trip and great scenery, 45! Excellent camera work too.
Always a good day when a new video is posted keep it up🎉
Thank you for the soulful videos, with gorgeous stories, staging and editing!
Hell yeah! Love the shout out to the tdubs!
Absolutely LOVE the hi/lo on my CT110. It's a blast.
WE NEED MORE VIDS ON THIS CHANNEL
Cool video, I wondered how that worked on small bikes and older ATV's. And the look on 45's face a 1:34 while the gooooo dribbles out of the exhaust pipe was good for a belly laugh!
Always great content. I was starting to cry watching the parts go into the bin! hopefully those got saved or offered up to someone who may need them.
"It will get you high when you are feeling low.." great sentence❤
My father and I each rode rv 125s back in the day we made chains for them and rode all over the mountains in the snow hunting. I still have dads I hope to restore some day.
That bike you pulled down looked like something my Dad would restore.
Also, grew up on a TS-185 and honestly, great bike, but it had enough torque it doesn't need low range.
So enthusiastic about the weather.
Honda CB900 had dual ratio gearbox, thankfully not sold this side of the pond.
Just the early '80s CB900 Custom - it was used as a way to move drive to the right side so it would work with the shaft drive system. The CB900-F just had a regular 5-speed and chain drive.
I have a cb900c. Great bike
Favorite channel, thanks
More teardowns please! Love these.
Magical. Really enjoyed that tear down
such a great little chain saw!!
Well that's just cool. I've never heard of this hi lo gearbox before outside of work trucks. Thanks for this!
I had a Suzuki TS250 in 1975. It was a 2 stroke but apparently had enough torque that it didn't need the HI/LO gear selector. The TS250 was a dual sport that was trying to be a 4 stroke. It had separate tanks for the gas and oil and it mixed them automatically. If you want the experience of the RV125 or TS90 in a 4 stroke, try the Honda CT90 or CT110. There are versions with the HI/LO gearbox. If you want to try slow back road and off road ultralight moto camping, many people use them for that, or the newer Trail125.
I have a TC185 in my shed with the same feature.
I use it occasionally as a pit bike when we camp at outback races.
It has a custom Esky (cooler) rack🍻
The dual ratio gearbox comes in handy for the long distance runs back to camp when we run out of beer😎
Was just thinking about the cb900c yesterday… 10 speed hi lo
Great bike, I have an 81'
'83 CB1000C Wished I had kept it
Was waiting for this comment. My one and only custom bike. ‘82 CB900C. Had it for nearly one season but it wasn’t for me. Thought I’d plate it as a collector bike (95$/year) to save some $ living in QC. But I found the hi-lo gears great. Sold it to a guy that used to have one so it went to a good home.
My first bike was a Suzuki 125 four stroke with this dual range tranny. The crawling feature was pretty cool back then, though I was jealous of the massive power of a friend’s 185cc Honda.
I’d love to have that bike again now 40-odd years later.
I'm sorry, but 46 is definitely off the FortNine basketball team. He couldn't hit the broad side of a barn WITH the broad side of a barn!
I love the simplicity of the system. Sometimes creativity really kicks in when your options are limited. There's nothing inherently stupid about a high/low dual ratio gearbox. It was a practical solution to the limitations of the little Suzuki 2-cycle that just worked. That's not such a bad thing, especially in a world where "right to repair" is rapidly becoming as rare as a vintage British motorcycle that DOESN'T leak oil everywhere.
I had the g4....loved it. Garth
The biggest issue with these (or at least with the CT90s) is that you're running an air-cooled engine twice as hard but not going as fast, so you risk cooking the engine. Good for a short stint to get out of trouble, but not for extended trails where the terrain is tough.
I bet there's some wicked nerdy banter goes on in the FortNine offices about bikes, I'd love to be a fly on the wall 😄
Good morning, y'all! Going to take out my Aprilia and wish FortNine would do a video on them.
My first "real" bike was a 1972 TC 125. Bought it from a friend of my dad for 400 bucks in 1978. Low was too slow and high was too weak. Upgraded to a 1979 PE250 in 1980 that I got from a dealer return. That was a hell of a bike for a kid.
Great video! Everybody was mad Honda didn't include a dual-range subtranny on the Trail 125 like they did on its predecessor, the Trail 90. I'm not sure it would have been worth the extra cost, but it would be an extremely cool feature.
I think I prefer Suzuki's shift-on-the-fly subtranny over Honda's, which worked quite differently, though no doubt Honda's was more durable. Thanks for showing the tear-down.
I know that the ATC125M cane with a reverse gear which occupies the same place as the range gears. I guess it was a toss up and reverse won, on the ATC's anyway.
The local moto-cafe uses the old Honda Trail with the low range gears to tow motorcycles that aren't running, they also used it to tow an air cooled VW Beetle back to their shop.
Excellent high quality work and thankyou for getting my sunday morning into gear,
best greets from Düsseldorf 😉
I just bought a RV90 I found at a swap meet. Awesome to see one out in the wild! I've also had a TC125 with the dual range gearbox too. Thanks for the explainer
Only commented about this the other day on your short looking at the internal carb. Lovely to hear more about it as loved my 1971 TC90. They never made it to the UK as we only had the TS I believe, so when my dad imported it along with a load of Yam XS's it was an interesting rebuild for sure. So lots of people including myself found it fascinating and many accidently wheelies when I forgot it was left in Low lol.
My friend had a Suzuki T-120 I think it was with a High and Low Range knob like that. Cool bike .. It had motorcycle sized tires on it
One if the highest quality video production in youtube, i might compare them to top gear or grand tour quality.
Oop. Gunna be some angry 50+ year old that he trashed that engine / transmission.
Yes ME!!!
Yes, theres gonna be some people who missed the point that everything missed the bin.
@@tonyjourneyman1944 Damn I’d like to think so, but the way he hammered the cylinder fins had me cursing. And was that bit with the angle grinder fake? Now I have to watch it again….
The Synthwave outro is chef's kiss ❤
Good job 46 and Edwin!
The educational power of a short
Last November I purchased a Honda XRM 125 in the Philippines for $1,900 CDN new. Now over 6,000 KM. Amazing bike for here. Love it so much. 65 km/litre. 90 kph easy. Go anywhere. I owned bikes in Canada for years. The XRM is slower but just as much fun.
The engineering that went into this is truly unbelievable. 😵💫
With electronics, riding modes and switchable rider assists being what they are now, it'd be neat if manufacturers offered something akin to an impossible-to-stall mechanical crawler gear below first gear, only somehow electronically restricted so you couldn't accidentally drop into it on the street. It'd be a solution to a niche problem, sure, but it wouldn't have the compromise of going down a tooth on your front sprocket. 4-strokes have gotten more powerful but bikes and riders have also gotten heavier.
Beautiful bike.
You were right the first time. The orange bike was a TC90. It had the high/ Low transmission 4/4. The TS was a 5 speed without the high/ low. They both had the internal carburetors. I sure hope the TC90 had something wrong with it, that made it beyond economical repair. For a kid, they were great bikes.
I had an original Bell moto 3 in that colour when I rode my IT250H, it matched the number panels.🙂
45/46 are presenting the best content here now, entertaining and educational. Ryan seems to just pop up when he's got a Luke warm take to poke the internet with. Fuck all that lets just enjoy bikes and riding.
Ryan is great, JB is very knowledgeable, but the clones are my fave by far! Welcome 46!
finally found your groove huh, great vid i endorse this one, well done. ✊🏻
That carb in the case blew my mind.
Like the bell moto 3 from that era.. Had a few of em muhself way back in the day.
Excellent!
Yamaha also sold the AG100 here in Australia with hi/lo, was a 2 stoke with a separate oil tank so you didn't have to premix. Marketed mainly for farm use. It has big metal bars around the handgrips, clutch and brake levers in case you dropped it
I’ve got a tc185 for sale … love the hi/low and it makes me smile 😊
beautiful bike and work! 👍👍👍
Trip down memory lane!
45 greetings from so oregon 44 here from the past great job you have outlasted all who went before. PS keep them vids coming🤯😎