Man I wish we’d have the Gerald Undone in the photography world, your videos are.. basically perfect. On point, very technical, yet short and without the bullshit.
This is what makes Gerald so great. I can't think of anyone else doing these kinds of in depth tests that result in such a wealth of information. Thanks!
1. 8K mode has about 17ms rolling shutter. 2. 8K mode's 4K HDMI output uses nearest neighbour down-scaling, it appears sharp but at the expense of increased moire, compared to pixel-binning. 3. Canon's 4K HQ mode uses bi-linear down-scaling from 8K.
Gerald, your dedication to sharing your deep understanding videography and photography is very much appreciated. And inspires me to understand my cameras better.
Finally: someone talking about the official battery grip! When everyone was talking about overheating, and Gerald noted that a dummy battery alleviates that, my mind instantly jumped to the battery grip. There's also a 4-battery external official dummy battery too.
I've always wondered who Gerald is looking out for in these intros, but you won't catch my man slipping. This timestamp 0:09 shows his eyes sharp, staying calm but focused so he can bring us the tech breakdowns we rely on. Thank you for your service Mr. Undone, I hope they catch whoever is out there looking for you.
Here's something to test out: variable shutter and how to deal with flickering light sources in camera with A1's new fine-tunable shutter speed. You can test this in both photo and video mode. Currently there's not much out there on these minute but VERY IMPORTANT details. Also the new 1/400 flash sync and anti-distortion shutter might also be interesting to test out! Here's to Sony loaning you the A1 for another round of testing ;p
Gerald, this was one of the most useful videos for the ⍺1 that I've ever watched. I was happy to see that you have a JOIN button. I joined, and I look forward to learning more about my new ⍺1's video capabilities. Thank you for your detailed outlook.
After watching your videos and other's producers for years. You still have the best in-depth video's ever. Bravo for your hard work. It's a lot of work what you do and I appreciate it! Thank you. Need more of this and less of the B.S. out there.
I just love this channel so much. So much love and detail always goes into your videos. Thank you for this! Alwys hyped to see a new video coming out from you :)
S-cinetone sounds interesting. You still have to deal with super whites though, right? Would love to see a video some day explaining super whites completely and how to properly use them in post. Thanks for the great videos!
Great catch on the external recording. I recently worked with a client that had pretty much this same implementation - read the sensor at one density, optionally pass through a dsp IC that has a switch to select input density and output density, where density here is resolution. If you are reading at high density it uses more power and you have oversample the output in the dsp, otherwise you can pretty much just pass through the signal. It's interesting that Sony didn't include logic to determine whether you are actually recording internally and changing the read resolution automatically - I don't have an a1 so I don't know, but I'm guessing it's no issue to start internal recording at any point while you are recording externally. They probably can't just flip the read resolution that quickly so they have to leave it as you set it. Very neat observation and video, thanks!
as a 20 year long Canon user (tons of lenses) the R5 and R6 release made me think they'll change. But, looking at how quick Sony is with firmware updates, and that they don't go and cripple functions like USB-charging, oversampled external output etc etc.... now I'm back to thinking I should probably jump ship and get me a Sony system. The other thing next to trying to avoid the huge cost of switching is ergonomics. Sony cams feel cramped in my hands.
The oversample thing is something I also saw way back on the Panasonic G70. You could go 1080p 60 or 30 without a crop or you could live with a slight crop, set the camera to 2160p 30 and output super sharp 1080p. I then had the signal fed into a USB capture thingie. Probably one of the best 1080p webcam solutions at the time.
I can confirm that the internal to external downsampling even works on the "consumer" level cameras like the a6400, when set to 4k internally and 1080p HDMI output it's much sharper, has less noise, and because of that wonderful old sensor also has more rolling shutter.
At the 12:23 minute mark, I had to stop and write this down, Gerald, love your channel, but to answer your question at the time stamp, and to answer some other likely ones you have regarding the topic mentioned around that time stamp.... and that is as follows. Dude, It’s Sony, they R&D and manufacture the PlayStation, and have for over 20 years. You’re pointing out that the camera doesn’t lock us out of features for using the 8K option, which is good to hear, is what turned the light bulb on for me, bc that’s the type of thinking I’ve come to be accustomed to by preferring Sony on everything for the last 20 years. When you have to figure out how to manage heating with a GPU/CPU config for mass manufacturing, they’re gonna figure it out for their cameras too I’d like to think and think I just saw in your video.... best intro out of all cinema channels.
I’m surprised that they don’t bring out a grip that also contains an external hard drive, that can be linked to the camera so files are saved directly to it.
When you summed up you great video by saying that you didn’t want to give the A1 back or return it to Sony it made me so happy that that I preordered mine last month. I’m getting excited. Thanks for your hard work and super great content
Noticed the same thing when sending 1080p from the A7SIII to the Atem Mini Pro ISO. Quality of the ISO recordings was much better when the camera is set to 4k internal.
tremendous work Gerald, im glad your not sponsored by any camera manufacturer, then you would probably be obligated to be bias about your results, but i hope in the future all of them just start giving you a camera so you can nerd out on it and they can get factual results like you have been, keep it up 🙌🏽😎
Thank you Gerald! always the go to guy for this stuff. I love when watching other reviewers or people talking about gear how they usually refer to you for more detailed information. You are doing a great thing and I know it really helps so many people. Now if I only had unlimited funds to buy all this cool gear. lol. I know I don't need it all but some would be nice to have. Thanks again.
Mate, noticed something interesting about the dual iso for s-cinetone. Forgive me if this was mentioned previously but when going to the upper base iso (2000), you actually have to go past it to 2500 and then back to 2000 for it to clean up. Just dialing it up from the lower values up to 2000, it has the same noise as 1600 but if you go to 2500 and then dial it back, it cleans up. 👍
Great info, as always! I always like your unique, rapid fire style of scripted delivery, but I often have to rewatch sections due to the fact that I can’t seem to process the info as fast as you can deliver it. So I do like this unscripted style of delivery a bit better. It reminds me of when I was giving presentations in college. I worked hard to know my subject matter, and with that I found that the presentation flowed better and came off more natural if I created a set of short sentence bullet points rather than a full blown script.
I recently subscribed to Story Blocks as a result of your videos that you were doing with the studios. I thought they were wonderful and so I gave them a look and used your link. I bought a whole year's worth of subscription, I hope it helps you out in some meaningful way. Hoping to make Story Blocks bigger part of my channel! I absolutely love their After Effects templates. I never knew how much I would like fonts!
Great that you mention for streaming, I frequently use my A7SIII as a webcam and knowing that setting it to 4K internally but keeping my output set to 1080p is nice. I was always confused which is the right settings to use for a situation like that.
Although i can't afford the camera, I very much appreciate it that you took all the trouble to do all the tests just to show us the facts about the camera!
Handheld will make the camera heat up at a faster rate because heat will transfer from hands to camera (when camera is colder). It will also slow the rate of camera cooling when its hot (hands acting as insulator)
I used to record HD with my Atomos while shooting 4K on my A6500, the external recordings looked great and a lot of the 4K detail usually made it through.
These differences in IQ is very easy to see in YT! THX!! It was eye opening for usng all Sony cameras! BTW... You sound amazing! What did you do since your initial new studio tour to improve acoustics?
That's great, because most film makers wouldn't record footage for two hours straight. When I recorded a music video or short movie. I record 5 - 10 minutes of footage at a time. Then we combine the footage in post production. That's overkill, when recording a movie or music video. Two hours and fourty-five minutes is good for time lapse videos. That makes this a excellent camera for multiple projects. Even low light recording. 😎👍📸🎥
I've heard that 4K/120 generates the most heat. I was recording with my Sony A1 indoors @ 4K/60 and it shut off within 5 minutes with the screen closed. The screen by far is the largest drawback to the A1. At its price, it should've been fully articulating and should've had a mechanism that prevents it from going in all the way to allow for optimal airflow. My main concern is how it will perform in the sun or in a hot and humid environment while recording at 8K/30 or 4K/120.
The same actually applies to Panasonic cameras as well. Internal HD on the S1H just looks awful (binned or skipped even?), externally when camera is set to 4K or 6K, 1080p looks totally fine like it has been downscaled after being processed in 4K or 6K before.
FYI you can get dummy batteries with usb C PD ports and run from compatible battery banks. I tested for a7r4 and it works for some good 5 hours nonstop.
Hi Gerald. Not sure I missed this but I can’t see what setting do you recommend on the a1 to capture the highest quality on the ninja when the camera is setup to 8K. Did you say auto? Or 4K? For the hdmi output.
Man I wish we’d have the Gerald Undone in the photography world, your videos are.. basically perfect.
On point, very technical, yet short and without the bullshit.
That 8k internal to 4k output is absolutely brilliant sir, well done
"I'm Gerald Undone and it's been S-Log since I've seen you"
aight you won this one
jesus this one is so good.
Slow down 😩
I love your videos but can you slow down no need to talk so fast
@@POSE4DAN Is that me or Gerald?
That is an interesting finding about the external recording.
Yup that is a fantastic find! Oversampled 4K recording.
I'm Gerald Undone, and I know Victoria's Secret.
Now I know why everyone sends you to watch Gerald Undone
I bet James May would too, spanners are looking tidy and are correctly placed.
Thought everyone sees Markuspix
This is what makes Gerald so great. I can't think of anyone else doing these kinds of in depth tests that result in such a wealth of information. Thanks!
This is the type of content almost nobody else creates and I truly appreciate it! Amazing work, as usual, thanks a lot, Gerald!
1. 8K mode has about 17ms rolling shutter.
2. 8K mode's 4K HDMI output uses nearest neighbour down-scaling, it appears sharp but at the expense of increased moire, compared to pixel-binning.
3. Canon's 4K HQ mode uses bi-linear down-scaling from 8K.
I've been watching your vids for years, and they just keep increasing in quality. Always a pleasure to watch your discussions
Gerald, your dedication to sharing your deep understanding videography and photography is very much appreciated. And inspires me to understand my cameras better.
Finally: someone talking about the official battery grip! When everyone was talking about overheating, and Gerald noted that a dummy battery alleviates that, my mind instantly jumped to the battery grip. There's also a 4-battery external official dummy battery too.
My First thoughts were dummy battery in the grip 😅
But what about the dummy behind the camera? I hear it can cause issues.
I've always wondered who Gerald is looking out for in these intros, but you won't catch my man slipping. This timestamp 0:09 shows his eyes sharp, staying calm but focused so he can bring us the tech breakdowns we rely on. Thank you for your service Mr. Undone, I hope they catch whoever is out there looking for you.
So appreciate all the technical deep dives. Been here for a long time and there is no one better. Thanks so much. 🙏🏼
Literally the best camera videos on TH-cam. Thanks, G.
the oversampling info was super nice Gerald, thanks for your exhaustive contribution as always!
Love the attention to the Tech side of the review & testing various situations with multiple compositions of the gear ... Great Job as Always !
03:52 - Learning with Gerald. Love it!
Genius setting 8k internal and getting a sharper 4K externally!
A new breed of TH-camr that really knows their stuff. Brilliant. Very informative. Thank you.
i've never found a youtuber that impresses me as much as this guy every video
That's awesome Gerald! Thanks for taking the time to put these tests together ✌🏽
There is nobody best at this than Gerald. A unicorn.
Here's something to test out: variable shutter and how to deal with flickering light sources in camera with A1's new fine-tunable shutter speed. You can test this in both photo and video mode. Currently there's not much out there on these minute but VERY IMPORTANT details. Also the new 1/400 flash sync and anti-distortion shutter might also be interesting to test out!
Here's to Sony loaning you the A1 for another round of testing ;p
"I'm Gerald Undone and all i want is a perfect camera"
Camera conspiracies...😂😂😂
Hell yes. We need this to happen before the cripple hammer comes out of hibernation...
Need a little conspiracy in your life?.....
Loser :)
Truly excellent review / update! This is next level insight into the capabilities of these cameras that I haven’t seen elsewhere.
The gold standard for camera and video equipment content
Gerald, you are the absolute best. You are the advocate that Sony didn't know, it needed.
Love your (non) sponsor disclosure at the beginning. Few TH-camrs do that, which speaks plenty for themselves.
Gerald, you’re my go to for anything creative related. Your honesty and in depth reviews are unmatched
Gerald, this was one of the most useful videos for the ⍺1 that I've ever watched. I was happy to see that you have a JOIN button. I joined, and I look forward to learning more about my new ⍺1's video capabilities. Thank you for your detailed outlook.
This Guy deserve at least 1 million subscribe, great job as always.
He'll get there... =)
What can I say? I'm SOOOOO thankful/grateful to have you advocating for the community and educating us as well! Alright... I'm done. :-)
Hi Gerald, I really like your videos.
Thank God for Gerald Undone. And thank Gerald Undone for Gerald Undone.
After watching your videos and other's producers for years. You still have the best in-depth video's ever. Bravo for your hard work. It's a lot of work what you do and I appreciate it! Thank you. Need more of this and less of the B.S. out there.
Such a pleasure to watch your work Gerald 👍thank you.
Very informative and great comparisons on screen as usual! Thank you for taking the time and effort to compare these options and settings.
Not even a Sony guy, and I’ll sit and watch these videos cause Gerald makes it interesting.
I just love this channel so much. So much love and detail always goes into your videos. Thank you for this! Alwys hyped to see a new video coming out from you :)
S-cinetone sounds interesting. You still have to deal with super whites though, right? Would love to see a video some day explaining super whites completely and how to properly use them in post. Thanks for the great videos!
Great catch on the external recording. I recently worked with a client that had pretty much this same implementation - read the sensor at one density, optionally pass through a dsp IC that has a switch to select input density and output density, where density here is resolution. If you are reading at high density it uses more power and you have oversample the output in the dsp, otherwise you can pretty much just pass through the signal. It's interesting that Sony didn't include logic to determine whether you are actually recording internally and changing the read resolution automatically - I don't have an a1 so I don't know, but I'm guessing it's no issue to start internal recording at any point while you are recording externally. They probably can't just flip the read resolution that quickly so they have to leave it as you set it.
Very neat observation and video, thanks!
You are very much underrated bro
I like that the wrenches in the background sort of mimic the dynamic range tester
How is it that you only have 241K subs?.... Great work man!
as a 20 year long Canon user (tons of lenses) the R5 and R6 release made me think they'll change. But, looking at how quick Sony is with firmware updates, and that they don't go and cripple functions like USB-charging, oversampled external output etc etc.... now I'm back to thinking I should probably jump ship and get me a Sony system.
The other thing next to trying to avoid the huge cost of switching is ergonomics. Sony cams feel cramped in my hands.
Yay more Gerald Undone a1 content!
Great work Gerald, really appreciate your deep dives into all these topics. This information is invaluable.
@Gerald Those closed captions of yours are amazing.
Great information Gerald. Thank you for sharing! 👍
Great video man. I want to see bmpcc 6k pro video
Yes! S-Cinetone gets Undone!
Now we need a Rode Wirless Go 2 vs Hollyland Lark vs Saramonic Blink Pro
The oversample thing is something I also saw way back on the Panasonic G70. You could go 1080p 60 or 30 without a crop or you could live with a slight crop, set the camera to 2160p 30 and output super sharp 1080p. I then had the signal fed into a USB capture thingie. Probably one of the best 1080p webcam solutions at the time.
Very exciting stuff here! Nice job as always with all the details. Boom!
"I'm Gerald Undone and I love some S-Log for breakfast"
Make sure you add a hint of Dynamic Range to those pancakes
and overcook it a little more
those shelves look familiar lol.
Fro Knows Photo!!!!
I think yours are higher quality. These are my old ones from my 2018 set. Home Depot ones.
this is next level inside tips. great work man!
Thanks for following up on the dummy battery vs battery grip idea!
I can confirm that the internal to external downsampling even works on the "consumer" level cameras like the a6400, when set to 4k internally and 1080p HDMI output it's much sharper, has less noise, and because of that wonderful old sensor also has more rolling shutter.
Impressed. Answered to some questions I didn't even knew I had
This video was helpful and entertaining. Thanks, Gerald.
Feeling heat is a good thing, it shows it is dissipating the heat and not keeping it IN the device.
Appreciate the quick bullet style Gerald ... thanks tons!!!
The 8k internal / 4k output does not work if outputting raw over HDMI.
At the 12:23 minute mark, I had to stop and write this down, Gerald, love your channel, but to answer your question at the time stamp, and to answer some other likely ones you have regarding the topic mentioned around that time stamp.... and that is as follows.
Dude, It’s Sony, they R&D and manufacture the PlayStation, and have for over 20 years. You’re pointing out that the camera doesn’t lock us out of features for using the 8K option, which is good to hear, is what turned the light bulb on for me, bc that’s the type of thinking I’ve come to be accustomed to by preferring Sony on everything for the last 20 years.
When you have to figure out how to manage heating with a GPU/CPU config for mass manufacturing, they’re gonna figure it out for their cameras too I’d like to think and think I just saw in your video.... best intro out of all cinema channels.
I’m surprised that they don’t bring out a grip that also contains an external hard drive, that can be linked to the camera so files are saved directly to it.
When you summed up you great video by saying that you didn’t want to give the A1 back or return it to Sony it made me so happy that that I preordered mine last month. I’m getting excited. Thanks for your hard work and super great content
Noticed the same thing when sending 1080p from the A7SIII to the Atem Mini Pro ISO. Quality of the ISO recordings was much better when the camera is set to 4k internal.
Gerald, would you still recommend the A1 in April of 2022 or do you feel the new version will arrive later this year?
tremendous work Gerald, im glad your not sponsored by any camera manufacturer, then you would probably be obligated to be bias about your results, but i hope in the future all of them just start giving you a camera so you can nerd out on it and they can get factual results like you have been, keep it up 🙌🏽😎
Thank you Gerald! always the go to guy for this stuff. I love when watching other reviewers or people talking about gear how they usually refer to you for more detailed information. You are doing a great thing and I know it really helps so many people. Now if I only had unlimited funds to buy all this cool gear. lol. I know I don't need it all but some would be nice to have. Thanks again.
Mate, noticed something interesting about the dual iso for s-cinetone. Forgive me if this was mentioned previously but when going to the upper base iso (2000), you actually have to go past it to 2500 and then back to 2000 for it to clean up. Just dialing it up from the lower values up to 2000, it has the same noise as 1600 but if you go to 2500 and then dial it back, it cleans up. 👍
Great info, as always! I always like your unique, rapid fire style of scripted delivery, but I often have to rewatch sections due to the fact that I can’t seem to process the info as fast as you can deliver it. So I do like this unscripted style of delivery a bit better. It reminds me of when I was giving presentations in college. I worked hard to know my subject matter, and with that I found that the presentation flowed better and came off more natural if I created a set of short sentence bullet points rather than a full blown script.
I've been down scaling 4k from my A7III externally to my Blackmagic recorder for a few years now; love the results.
Can you please recommend THE BEST dummy batteries to power the A1, A7Siii, and A7iii? I would like to power by mains and also d-tap. Thanks!
Thanks for the thoughtful, detailed, human reviews. Subscribed!
Few months ago I just get a7iii, and. It is still awesome, can't even imagine potential of A1
I recently subscribed to Story Blocks as a result of your videos that you were doing with the studios. I thought they were wonderful and so I gave them a look and used your link. I bought a whole year's worth of subscription, I hope it helps you out in some meaningful way. Hoping to make Story Blocks bigger part of my channel! I absolutely love their After Effects templates. I never knew how much I would like fonts!
Excellent review and great find in the 8k/4K output!
Great that you mention for streaming, I frequently use my A7SIII as a webcam and knowing that setting it to 4K internally but keeping my output set to 1080p is nice. I was always confused which is the right settings to use for a situation like that.
That power delivery is pretty unique! Wish more manufacturers will do the same thing!
Great video again Gerald I pre order sony a1 but active steady shot cannot be enable
*Geralds the wizard i never had!*
Although i can't afford the camera, I very much appreciate it that you took all the trouble to do all the tests just to show us the facts about the camera!
Just because I know you can do this, does it run cooler when you drill holes in the dummy battery?
Handheld will make the camera heat up at a faster rate because heat will transfer from hands to camera (when camera is colder). It will also slow the rate of camera cooling when its hot (hands acting as insulator)
I used to record HD with my Atomos while shooting 4K on my A6500, the external recordings looked great and a lot of the 4K detail usually made it through.
These differences in IQ is very easy to see in YT! THX!! It was eye opening for usng all Sony cameras! BTW... You sound amazing! What did you do since your initial new studio tour to improve acoustics?
Hi Gerald, whats the brand of the powerbank?
For that "set the internal resolution higher when outputting lower" tip you earn the sub! Thanks!
I just bought a7Siii and than FX3 came out... Should I return my a7Siii and get FX3 or just stay with what I have and finally unbox that bad boy?! :)
Depends. If you use xlr, and don't use the evf, the fx3 could be the better option. Other than ergonomics, it is literally the same camera
Stay with it
i’ve definitely been considering putting this one in my bag! such a sophisticated camera!
That's great, because most film makers wouldn't record footage for two hours straight. When I recorded a music video or short movie. I record 5 - 10 minutes of footage at a time. Then we combine the footage in post production. That's overkill, when recording a movie or music video. Two hours and fourty-five minutes is good for time lapse videos. That makes this a excellent camera for multiple projects. Even low light recording. 😎👍📸🎥
@Gerald why not use HLG instead of S-Cinetone
I've heard that 4K/120 generates the most heat. I was recording with my Sony A1 indoors @ 4K/60 and it shut off within 5 minutes with the screen closed. The screen by far is the largest drawback to the A1. At its price, it should've been fully articulating and should've had a mechanism that prevents it from going in all the way to allow for optimal airflow. My main concern is how it will perform in the sun or in a hot and humid environment while recording at 8K/30 or 4K/120.
The same actually applies to Panasonic cameras as well. Internal HD on the S1H just looks awful (binned or skipped even?), externally when camera is set to 4K or 6K, 1080p looks totally fine like it has been downscaled after being processed in 4K or 6K before.
I gave this video a thumbs up even before watching it. THE THUMBNAIL GOT ME !
FYI you can get dummy batteries with usb C PD ports and run from compatible battery banks. I tested for a7r4 and it works for some good 5 hours nonstop.
Also Sony has an official fz100 dummy battery bank which allows you to put 4 fz100 and run them consecutively, you can hotswap any of the 4 batteries.
Nice. Great content yet again.
Hi Gerald. Not sure I missed this but I can’t see what setting do you recommend on the a1 to capture the highest quality on the ninja when the camera is setup to 8K. Did you say auto? Or 4K? For the hdmi output.