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Need to support vegan diet? Bring out a dozen ethically conducted, controlled, double-blind, etc studies. Need to take down keto? Let's form our understanding this single study with ethical issues - funded by a company that embezzled funds. Yeah, that's great form, Michael Greger. Well done. Truly a great, objective, unbiased source of info on dietary topics.
Eduardo Campos A whole food, plant-based vegan diet rich in whole grains, fruits, vegetables, legumes, etc. All the protein you need to build muscles comes from plants, which also has fiber, phytonutrients, antioxidants, and other good stuff. You also have the added side effect of saving animals and going easy on the environment! I failed at going vegan the first time around because I gave in to the keto narrative that starches made me fat. Now, I love my rice, potatoes, and beans while working out every day in my slimmer body!
My mom started the keto diet over a year ago to lose weight and help control her type 2 diabetes. She succeeded in those two objectives, but suffered a stroke last month. I have not heard anyone mention her stroke as being diet related, but everything I’ve ever heard about nutrition makes me believe it was. More and more friends of mine are going keto. I hate to be the sanctimonious vegan, but I genuinely worry for their health.
Joanna....so sorry for your loss. I do not think diet played a role in her stroke. Stroke is a broken blood vessel, many times from high blood pressure. I would blame her history of diabetes rather then a change in diet. Again, so sorry.
@@logangaddy Thank you. That these people don't know that vascular congestion affects the brain as it does the area around the heart is galling! Maybe they don't know there are blood vessels up there?
@@wofferful Absolutely. Have a look at any of these guys, their websites sell very expensive supplements that are needed to go with these great diets for some reason.
Thank you Doctor. I am so very thankful I found your website and heard about a plant-based lifestyle after my heart attack 4 years ago, at age 61. I’ve never felt better. ♥️
Red Pill Vegan: Standard American Diet....red meat, lots of burgers, very few veggies or fruits really, chicken dishes. LOTs of cheese on everything, casseroles, fast food, sugary desserts, etc. All for years. Had to have 2 stents put in. Sure was a big wake-up call.
K H glad you’re feeling and doing well. May I ask, what blood thinner were you on, and how long did you take it? Were you able to come off of it after a year which is normally recommended?
MORBUENO GROUP Hi. I stayed on my blood thinner for 2 years I think. It was a generic Plavix. I was not as compliant the 1st year as I should have been. But have since done well.
K H thank you for the reply. I was asking for my father who just went what you went thru and now I’m helping him find healthier avenues to help in his recuperation. I think if he stays compliant with a WFPBD he may be able to wing himself off the placid after the year which his doctor said he will need to stay on.
No one named anything. Ketosis is a state of metabolism and we have always had this metabolism since we became humans. Some people feel theyre not human.
Thank you Dr. Gregor for setting me straight! I have been doing keto for 3 months, and the scale told me I have lost about 30 pounds. But now that I have watched your video, with all of your helpful stats, facts, and words, I realize the scale has lied to me! Keep up the great work. :/
Of course carbs are fatning, I realized 30 years ago while travelling around East Asia that rice and veg eating people were morbidly fat and Americans so trim that you could walk all day amongst thousands and thousands of people and not see one single fat person. Total common sense.
Hong Kong has the highest meat consumption per capita in the world, and also the highest average life expectancy in the world. It's the ultimate Blue Zone. Don't take my word for it, look it up, it's an easy fact to check... Kinda shoots a big old hole in your sarcastic comment...
@@NickFoxer Unfortunately that doesn't mean much in the context of degerative disease. Most people in Hong Kong suffer degenerative disease for 5-10 yrs prior to death. Unlike Okinawa /Sardinia etc where they are active up until 1-2 months before death.
Americans eat far more carbs than East Asians, who actually eat a diet high in meat and seafood. A bowl of rice is a lot less carbs than a twelve-inch 'personal' pizza. Also vastly more fructose in the American diet, which is why people on the SAD are prone to developing diabetes and fatty liver disease.
Jason Fung tho. The study was biased by vegans tho. Twitter tho. The people's ketones were biased by Vegetable intake (known carcinogen) tho. They were not fasted 18/6 tho. They were still addicted to carbs tho. Soy.
The researchers didn’t blend high quality grass-fed butter into their coffee tho. The fat in the coffee really gets the brain working and ramps up the fat burning. Flawed study.
I was a healthy man of 45 years, and was stupid enough to do a keto diet, for 2 years. The outcome was: gained weight, high cholesterol, very bad mood, muscle cramps and finally heart arrythmia which led to a stroke. Now, since 2 years I am more or less on Dr Gregers way of eating, and all shitty keto symptoms gone. I would really like to sue them keto charlatans one day!
I am sorry to disagree here, I am a female in my late 70es who had been on a strict vegan diet for a long time but stopped because it made me sick. I developed joint pain, sagging crepe looking skin which was dry and sallow looking, fatigue, cholesterol going up instead of down, blood glucose shooting up and a general feeling of feeling unwell. I have been on a low carb diet for about 3 months now and haven’t felt that good in a very long time! My joint pain is pretty much gone, my skin has made a dramatic turnaround that even my husband asked me what I was doing! My cholesterol is coming down again and my glucose and A1c are back to normal again. I also don’t look anymore like death warmed over like a lot of vegans do and who just look gaunt, I also no longer believe anything what Mr. Gregor is saying because everyone is different, we are not cookie cutter humans where one mold fits all. Some people will do well on a vegan/vegetarian diet and others like myself do not and to say that a low carb diet will kill you is really dumb because everyone will die one day, nobody will live forever no matter what you eat!!!
Excellent video. Kevin Bass is also doing a thorough debunk of low-carb claims on his website at "Nutritional Revolution". The only reason people lose weight on Keto is because they cut calories. It's really that simple. And.. it doesn't work for many people too. I wish they weren't so zealous about it. Lots of former low-carbers have moved on to more reasonable approaches to weight loss that works for them.
I love Kevin Bass, but I eat exclusively bacon and butter, and i eat SO MUCH ribeye, 6-7lbs at a time, and I reversed stage 8 cancer and lost 187 lbs, and also cured my depression and skin issues! No case study was written, just this comment. Kevin Bass must be biased!
It's easier to cut calories when fat is high, proteins adequate and simple carbs are low. The low carb diet keeps blood glucose stable. It works for me.
Tine P - There would be no arguments if the Keto experts would just say ‘Keto keeps you satiated longer, which helps you lower your caloric intake and lose weight’. No, they have to go down the road of ‘carbs make you fat’ and ‘cholesterol doesn’t cause heart disease.’
I´ve got so sick on one month ketogenic diet, and ruined my health ,recovery lasted me a year or so..I was using the best virgin oils,organic nuts and seeds,as much greens as I could fit into low carb intake, didnt lose any weight except water weight first week..Would not recommend to anyone.
You know, I'm not a vegetarian/vegan, and I have a lot (far too many) of friends on the keto diet. They all want me to join 'cause it's so great... and in some ways I feel like go ahead it's your body, but it's always looked like an eating disorder to me. Hopefully some keep doing research from sources other than their favorite circles. I like 'Eat whole foods, not too much, mostly vegetables'. Just makes more sense to me. Thanks for the video.
That's exactly what the ketogenic lifestyle is. You just described it. 8 cups of vegetables a day, less than 50 carbs, the rest fat and low-moderate protein. That's the cleanest you can get. No one is telling you to chug down oil and eat cheeseburgers 3 meals a day.
@@mikelattens3180 you mean dead animals and liquids from their body, why not call it for what it is? I also say I'm eating rice and beans, I don't say I'm eating "carbs".
@@ImprovingAbility Your argument of "dead animals and liquids" is something that every vegan throws their virtual flag upon, claiming victory. What is all that you consume made out of? Dead plant material. If you want to take the moral high ground, consider first taking a look at what allows for the sustenance of 8 billion people on this planet. Everything you consume, unless you are composting and growing EVERYTHING at your own ability, is made out of the remnants of animal tissue, fat - carcasses in general. As for why not calling it for what it is: I personally consume (at least) 80% of my intake from plant-based sources such as MCT oil, olive oil, 6+ cups of vegetables a day, DHA/EPA from algae, low-glycemic fruits and my fair share of almond milks, coconut milks, and their respective flours. Find a better argument. Would you say the equivalent to Inuit tribes that live in the far North America parts of the world that also happen to consume 80%+ of their food through "dead animals and liquids"? I wonder what they would eat if they got on the same high horse that you sit upon.
Lewis Blanchard they give animals all those supplements as well. Fortified food takes care if those no problem. While not clogging your arteries or causing diabetes
After years of passive silence , Dr. Greger has gone head first on Keto. I'm glad he's made videos on correcting people and educating them on this keto fad ! Officially through the videos, specifically!!!!!
Fad? They have been studying Keto for double the time of veganism. Yet another muppet that only listens to the preacher rather than studying what is said.
@@takeoffyourblinkers then explain what's wrong with the way he explains this video? Use evidence to support your claims. There are heaps of evidence that prove increase of fat causes increase in all cause mortality. Must I link?
@@jannlucilleloncio2739 Keto involves consuming fats at large. Almost all antioxidants and cancer preventive compounds are from plants. Losing weight does not equate to being healthy just by that analogy. Fasting can grant you more benefits and you can still lose weight with plenty of AMPK activity and inhibition of NF-κβ and TNF-α. I'm not saying on what should you be eating and what not. I expressed what I felt like. You lost weight because your Apo-E gene facilitated it. Those with slight modifications in that gene can bring serious consequences to you if you're either on just high carb or high fat diets. Plant based diets are safe. There's a great video on TH-cam by some Dr. On Apo-E and has a book by that same term. All the best.
@@jannlucilleloncio2739 I just don't you why did you come here and comment on my thread and ask me silly questions and then say if it suits me then I should have it. I didn't ask you to troll me, can you get a grip of your life ?
For all the Keto PhDs in the comments arguing that the study participants weren't given enough time to get into ketosis, you should know that they tested for respiratory quotient; all the participants were 'fat-adapted' after the 1st week of switching to the keto phase of the study.
The state of ketosis is officially dead thanks to you. Humanity will from henceforth only burn glucose for energy. As your next trick, could you make snow illegal?
After being vegan / vegetarian for over 45 years I got in the car wreck. The drugs disrupted my digestive system and a year later I went on a ketogenic diet for 2 years. I was diagnosed with several autoimmune disorders and was on five or six different drugs including Humira Remicade steroids and painkillers. Keto got me off all of these drugs and back to normal and now I'm half vegan half Keto. You don't know anything when you say debunk a keto diet until you actually get sick and have to use one to save your life.
@@KeyofDavid5778 amen! Sometimes you have to explain to the vegans that there's a thing called autoimmune disease (maybe they've heard of it, maybe they haven't) and some people who have it (like me) are actually worse off doing the vegan diet. The whole grains and legumes are actually more inflammatory and disrupt the gut more than they are good. Switching to keto (keto done the right way which is a whole food diet that includes a steady stream of veggies and leafy greens along with wild caught salmon wild caught chunk light tuna 100% grass fed and finished beef pasture raised chicken and eggs nuts seeds coconut oil mct oil avocado oil ... Etc.) Is actually the healthiest route for them. I know, I've done both whole food diets and have better results with clean keto than vegan. Better results as measured through blood tests, best blood pressure in my life, best cardiac throughput while exercising (I.e. significant reduction in peek exercise pulse rate), coronary artery calcium score of 0 (at age 45). Also some people don't switch to keto just to lose weight (that's something I don't need to do) but rather it's the healthiest way for them as verified by their own measurable tests/results.
@@KeyofDavid5778 oh man, so sorry for you! do you do vegan keto or half/half in an other way? because I guess you can do any diet in a wrong way, but also in a better way. if you don't know her, check our "TheVeggieMD" on Twitter/IG, she did a vegan Keto challenge for 2 weeks, and gives a lot of insights, ressources, facts, research etc. :)
@goggles789 I don't, I have read many of the studies myself and have experienced with my own body. Have you tried a whole-foods, plant-based diet for yourself? no sure, 17 men is not the hardest evidence ever, but show me one randomised controlled trial with hundreds of people showing that a keto (or for that matter high fat, low whole grain) diet is healthy long term...
Jones - exactly! 👏🤡I love when he “puts it to the test” AKA, gives us his opinion on the matter! 🥼🤡(he doesn’t ever “test” anything, which is actually quite brilliant! just GIVE us the clarity, and move on!)
@@charathcutestory he gave his opinion on nothing, he literally just read straight test results and data from actual studies, which is a lot more credible than using clown emojis to get his point across 🤡🤡
What does the Keto do to your heart, liver, kidneys and the rest of your stomach’s dedicated followers? In the last 14 years that I switched to vegetarian my cancer tumours just faded away, whereas my younger brother has been on and Atkins now even longer and has had, amongst other things, to have his heart stopped and restarted twice, and in the last year has had to wear a walk around monitor several times. Now this is only anecdotal, but I will add that I saw my grandfather, my father, and my two older brothers also succumb to cancer. Which is why it’s not just anecdotal to me.
So you are trying to tell me your family only follows the extremes of eating, either vegetarian= you, or the rest= atkins. I call bullshit. Stop with the hyperbole.
@Bruce Leroy Dr. Greger read this, as you and I can. He's never ran, been part of a clinical practice of weight loss, or any other that we know of. He's a researcher. I personally am against the keto diet, and have kept in shape for decades the old fashion way, good diet and exercise, but the science still isn't clear. So many are reporting large amounts of weight loss, reversal of diabetes, off blood pressure meds, etc., and we still don't know why. You can't just loose 40, 50, 60 or more pounds of "muscle and water." All we have are bits and pieces of the "science." I personally know of a man who lost nearly 100 pounds. We can all speculate as to it could have this, or it could have been that, but that's not good enough. To convince a formerly obese man on 6 different meds, now taking none, who's lost 100 lbs that what he's doing is wrong with a 6 minute video just doesn't cut it. Obesity is a very complex and not yet fully understood symptom, and varies greatly from person to person. Keto is as popular as vegan these days, and not because people like to eat fat.
You're making the same mistake as many keto proponents: to blindly assume what you think is correct. Better keep an open mind. I hope Dr. Greger also will explain other downsides of keto, like possible gut flora defecation (?) or other process in the body that are hampered..
For the record on Gary Taubes: Gary Taubes set up a million dollar research to prove his theories on fat. It was hilarious because the end results were the scientific evidence concluded that his theory on fat was wrong. But then Gary Taubes blamed the scientists (that he hired) that they did the research wrong. REFERENCES: Out of Gary Taubes' own mouth himself on the Joe Rogan Debate: Joe Rogan Experience #1267 - Gary Taubes & Stephan Guyenet
A.I. - Vegan doctors are MUCH smarter than him, especially when they use the refrain “intra-myocellar-lipids”! after they say that term, the debate is over and the vegans have won!
It's hilarious 😂. Oh Gary... How can you be upset about & blame the methods used in a study, when you're the one who approved those methods to begin with?
@@sonja4164 Hey, at least we have a million dollar independent unbiased research from Gary Taubes. He hired the Scientists himself to prevent biased research. He then gave the tick of approval to go ahead with the research. And then he was proven wrong. Thank you Gary :)
Of course the latest piece of research does actually support Gary's thesus , but that was when a real scientist LUSTIG as opposed to Hall did it . Oops
@@amandaatkins4771 but how exactly did he do it? Is it even reliable to believe? Did he figure out a way to fake it? At the end of the day its still likely a biased study
I’m no expert, but I know it is misleading to point out the loss in muscle mass. From my understanding, this loss is a temporary reduction in glycogen stores and water mass in the muscles. It’s not a loss of actual muscle fibers.
@@megavegan5791 That's probably extremely accurate, I realize that. I'm only calling into question the assumptions of his evaluation of the experiment. Does lower muscle mass truly mean that strength has been permanently lost? This, and the other point people have been bringing up in the comments, that ketosis takes a while to start up on a keto diet, leaves me still unable to rule out the keto diet as a potentially healthy option.
I'm not a vegan i've been diagnosed with prediabetes, after that i decreased my carbs heavily , and tried to eat enough to build muscle, it turned out it's an impossible task ! Without carbs there is NO muscle !
@@karinet7952 Yes, there is, it's called glucose and it's the only thing your body runs on. The only thing. That's why your body converts protein and fat into glucose. It can't use them directly as energy. Look up the Krebs Cycle. It explains everything.
m0L3ify lol the term essential means your body has obtain from external source your liver can make all the glucose you need with out an external source.
@@bobmonk388 Ah, so why have I been eating all this food all my life? Damn, I wish someone had told me all this sooner! I could have saved all this grocery money and bought a house! Shoot, I am gonna save so much time and money now! Thanks!!
LOVE this video. * NOW WITH THIS VIDEO i FINALLY KNOW THAT FOR MANY THIS KETO DIET DOES NOT WORK* I didn't lose weight on Keto..... I did it diligently for several months. I ate "uber" healthy counted net carb grams(( carbs - fiber)). Also tried counting EVERY single carb gram - regardless of dietary fiber - which is even less carbs. My fats never came from TransFats no canola oil, or refined oils((=oils processed by means of over-processing and very high heat)) ect. I ate a variety of avocados, coconuts, nuts & seeds, olives. No weight loss, and struggled to not gain weight - shockingly NOT the diet for me. Since stopping Keto, I am now losing weight again. Yeah! :-)
Your life must be so sad, calculating and punching numbers for everything that you intake. Maybe that was your problem. Also weight loss shouldn't be the goal, how long did you do it for? What fat were you losing that you couldn't see? ie fat around your organs. Me, I dropped my carbs in food, no measuring, and inflammation went in three days. I even kept by daily beer habit to make sure it was my dietary food that made the difference. See how simple it is to find a winner.
Better yet, check your thyroid, or cortisol, estrogen levels that affects the fat loss. I did ketogenic diet for 1 year and it's effective. And healthy
Keto while vegan is not good... Your fat must be mostly animal fat. Seeds make you gain weight and disrupt the omega3 levels in your body creating inflammation. If you think about it, it wouldn't be possible for you to be a caveman and walk hundreds of miles to find all of these seeds and thousands of miles during winter... So it had to be meat, that is the body system you were issued.
I'm not a vegan but I would also be interested, most of the bad stuff about the keto diet is the bad fats, but 18/6 hour fasting on a vegan diet might have interesting benefits.
Appreciate you, Dr. Greger! One of your vids made me quit Keto today. Have chosen the whole plant food way instead. Thanks for bringing forward the info. It was the vid with the info about breast cancer, petri dishes and blood samples. Oh my!!!!!
McGregors videos are highly selective and outragiously twist scentific research. He did a video on a paper which 'proved' high carb vegan was great for treating diabeties. When I downloaded and read the actual paper it said the opposite, the low carb group had better blood suger and control! You cannot trust him or his videos. He has one viewpoint and a pile of books etc... to sell depends on it!
@@AnHeC diabetes is not reversed DUE to a high carb diet, it is reversed by a diet - reducing calories and thus improving insulin sensitivity by cutting body weight. This reenbles the body to process carbs. By definition diabetes is a disease in which the body cannot process carbs! A low carb diet has auch more dramatic effect despite the lies and spin of the vegans
@@SlobberySlobtype 2 diabetes is not a disease, it's a physiological response to the stress produced by insulin spikes, that's why you reserve it, but can't actually cure it. Don't be too hard on vegans or vegetarians, some of them are assertive enough to tell that keto is not only healthy, but also sustainable on the long term, as evidenced by people like Dr. Berg or Luis Villaseñor. My only problems are individuals like the man of these videos that point with the finger and lie about the so called "opposite side" that only creates conflicts between people that have the same goal: stay healthy. Have some patience, they'll soon understand who's at their side.
@@CantEscapeFlorida So you think the biased people who paid 40 million for a study didn't do whatever they could to make it look positive towards their bias? Indirectly claiming that the body's energy exependure would change after more time just proves that you have no idea what you're talking about. There is a reason why the study didn't need to continue and even the biased called it a closed case - maybe you should spend time studying biology instead of advertising ignorance online.
@@pfwinbar Humans started eating dead rotting animal bodies millions of years before they started eating genetically engineered modern apples my friend, and you wouldn't be here if your ancestors (even your close ancestors) didn't bust their ass to hunt animals. Doesn't matter how bad you want to make it sound, our digestive tract is very well designed for meat consumption. It takes more time to digest animal foods because our body absorb more out of it.
@@byReZio Yes and they were also eating lot of cooked tubercules, highly available in Africa. I begin to think more and more than both keto and plant based are wrong. High carb low glycemic index, high animal protein is maybe more close to what our ancestors ate every day.
Like it or not but there is 0% since proving saturated fat is bad. Only some epidemiological studies. So please prove first scientifically but not religiously.
@@AnHeC why is eating what you're made of delusional? We are not made of smoke, we're are mostly fat, protein and water. Get a better comparison next time.
I did Keto diet about 10 years ago (about 1 year before I went vegan). Holy crap I felt like trash. I stuck with it for about 1 year and felt absolutley dreadful the entire time. It detroyed my cycling ability (I went from being able to smash out 70kms per day to struggling to ride 9kms to work). My sweat smelled like vinegar. I had all sorts of GI issues including (but not limited to) severe constipation and crippling gut pain (that caused me to leave work and go home about 7 times). I could go on. It was bloody aweful. Then I went vegan and started smashing the fruit, veges, lentils/beans, rice and potatoes/sweet potatoes and ... everything started working again. I could also actually think clearly again. For me Keto was an unmitigated disaster. WPF for the win! Just as an aside has there been any research done on doing a WPF Keto diet? That would be interesting. I think it'd be MUCH better than animal based.
Good Video, I did keto for 3 months with my normal calories and lost 40lbs. Mostly body fat.....Energy levels were off the charts but I did mostly vegan fats from nuts, avocados etc.... Guess everyone is different
And many people think the Keto diet and the carnivore diet are one in the same. I eat more veggies on keto than I did before. I eat TONS of macadamian nuts, 1g+ of fat per nut
First off I follow a keto WOE and have lost 80lbs in a year in combination with intermittent fasting. I have followed vegan and vegetarian diets on the past with no success in terms of weight management. I was aware of the study you mentioned and the issues surrounding it. I would be interested to hear what you would suggest the mechanism is behind the fat loss people experience on a keto WOE is if it is not due to insulin model? As clearly something is going on which enables people to drop the stomach inches. Many thanks.
Same here Nick. I’m dropping pounds and inches since starting keto diet, even with a cheat meal on the weekends. I feel better, bacon, eggs and steak are delicious too.
“I have followed vegan and vegetarian diets” that says absolutely nothing about what you actually ate if you ate lots of cheese and other dairy products or processed carbs and lots of oil then no wonder you didn’t lose weight
The reason why you lost weight is because regardless of diet composition, calorie restriction works. Eating less of anything will make you lose weight. It has been showed that certain diets fit better with certain people. And although I would argue that a keto diet isn't optimal for health, any diet that makes you lose significant weight (hence increasing every marker of health) and keeps you there (no rebound), is a diet you should stick to. One should try, however, to transition to a plant-based diet once his ideal weight achieved to see if he can make it work, health being achieved at this stage by improving food choices.
Congrats on the tremendous results. Hopefully they have continued. Don’t forget to monitor your serum lipids though and make sure you don’t fall prey to the “they don’t matter” crowd. They do matter, if you accept statistics as being valid.
I'm currently studying an open University degree in nutrition at the minute and it is citing Gary taubes's research as an alternative theory to recommended dietary requirements. I'm so glad that this video exists as I can now share it in my tutor group to all the advocates of keto!!!
@@lockhrt999 Show me your studies showing that Eskimos have a superior life expectancy without any disease. Also please provide evidence that they are in a state of constant ketosis. Thanks
Interesting video. It's promoted as a fat loss diet; yet according to this study it's not really a good weight loss option. In a way it shows the body doesn't like being in a fat burning mode for very long.
I have always maintained that ketogenesis is just an evolutionary mechanism by which hominids survived temporary periods of extreme privation of optimal foods. I now think, after looking into vegan keto regimens, where a higher ratio of carbs can be eaten without suspending the ketogenic state, that even in extreme privation, hominids sought out small amounts of optimal foods to supplement their fat based diets until the optimal foods were abundantly available again. We're not built to constantly scavenge fatty tissue off of the carrion of an apex predator.
Sorry, Doctor, but I stopped eating carbs and started eating lots of saturated fats, and guess what? I lost heaps of body fat. I gave up my vegan diet, which had kept me obese for years. Also, as a T2 diabetic, I now have the HbA1c percentage of a non-diabetic.
This information can't come fast enough. Everyone I talk to who is trying to lose weight, universally say, "I'm cutting carbs". It will be fun watching the keto craze die out.
@michael plemel 🤣 Yeah I botched that one pretty good. I guess that's what happens when you comment on the run. My bad, better luck next time. Thanks for pointing that out. 😁👍
@Youarewhatyoueat the way people on the keto diet or paleo diet eat is tremendously different. The style of eating that paleo biologist are maybe discovering dies out already. Last I checked they are not finding people from millions of years ago downing dairy, oil, processed meat, processed foods in general, and all other processed keto or paleo foods. The keto diet is a joke and will be 100% proven so in due time.
@Youarewhatyoueat all processed foods are bad. But if you want a side by side comparison of a whole food plant based diet and a keto diet, the whole food plant based diet will easily dominate it for best diet for longevity, disease reversal, disease prevention, and micronutrient content. There is no comparison really, whole food plant based diet is far superior than the keto diet.
When someone tells me that on their ketogenic diet all they eat is bacon, egg , steak, and cheese I know right away that it is an idiotic diet. Of course, I understand that Intermittent fasting and restricting carbs on some days (something like carb fasting day) can help with diabetes. But I don't support a full keto.
People on keto diets consume far less calories which leads to the weight loss. The study kept the calories up. The conclusion of the study rightfully destroys the hypothesis that fat calories are magic but it didn’t address the behavioral change in people who adopt keto diets.
This study is not a correct representation of a healthy keto plan, it's a bad example to use. I didn't use this ridiculous version of keto and nobody should. It's a bad keto version 💯
You mean because they can't bare to eat another bowl of mayo? The study also didn't look into the high levels of igf-1 from high protein diets, which are linked to cancer and aging.
Thousands of people have reversed their type 2 diabetes, cholesterol, high blood pressure, PCOS, infertility...the list goes on...by going on a low carbohydrate diet. Cutting out sugar and grains is the healthiest thing you can do for yourself.
Thank you Dr. Greger...for bringing light onto this planet. I have used your videos and books as a great source of inspiration for myself, friends, and my Personal Training clients. Slowly but surely, there is shift in human consciousness and our awareness about food happening. You are a maverick leading at the forefront. Keep up the good work!
There's a slight problem here. In the study "Energy expenditure and body composition changes after an isocaloric ketogenic diet in overweight and obese men." the study was supposed to be isocaloric (as the title says). However, in the study itself it says: "A major limitation of our study is the unintentional weight loss. Despite slight positive energy balance during the chamber days, the overall negative energy balance amounted to ∼300 kcal/d and was likely due to greater spontaneous physical activity on nonchamber days." These guys were in caloric deficit - that's probably why they lost lean mass. I think every bodybuilder will tell you that when you "cut", you have to increase your protein intake to avoid this muscle loss (probably by increasing IGF-1). The caloric deficit also explains why the fat loss slowed - their metabolic rate slowed down to match the caloric deficit. But eh, I'm no expert.
Ok, so I was sceptical about this video and just to see if I could 'trust' it I headed quickly over to the sources. Half of them were from 2002 (interesting) and I clicked on a more recent one, the one where Dr. Greger mentions that keto crossfiters lost muscle mass. Just reading this abstract you can already tell Dr. Greger just picks out what he wants from these studies, isolates it and uses it for his point. The end of the abstract states: 'While our n-sizes were limited [my add: control group n=5, keto dieters n=7 btw], these preliminary data suggest that adopting a ketogenic diet causes marked reductions in whole-body adiposity while not impacting performance measures in recreationally-trained CrossFit trainees. Whether decrements in dual-leg muscle mass and vastus lateralis thickness in KD participants were due to fluid shifts remain unresolved, and increased LDL-C in these individuals warrants further investigation.' So to summarize: Keto dieters lost weight, didn't have lower performance, no data on if actually lean body mass was lost or just fluid shifts, and some controversial blood markers shifted to warrant further investigation. But all Dr. Greger takes from this is "keto dieters are losing lean body mass from this diet". Tell me this is not wilfully deceiving by Dr. Greger. So much for your 'NutritionFacts'. I assume the rest of his points are equally cherry picked, isolated and overstated. If you want to be taken seriously you should never be caught obviously deceiving like this. And this was literally the first thing I picked out to look further into and right away found this discrepancy. Honest mistakes are one thing, but it is obvious this guy presents all this stuff only to fit what he wants to be true. I'll stick to thinking for myself.
BOOM! This is 24K Solid Gold, could not wait to share it with all my friends who think Keto is the way because they have been misled by those trying to profit from it.
@@cytwc I'm most interested in the long term consequences of not secreting adequate insulin as the evidence I've seen shows it's as damaging as having raised/high spikes all the time. Keto is basically a starvation diet because long term it completely tanks your metabolism so you end up eating only several hundred cals a day just to not get fat.
@Youarewhatyoueat Smoking too has been around for 1000s of years.. I love that appeal to the past argument. Are you seriously suggesting we are of similar intelligence to humans 1000s of years ago who knew nothing whatsoever & lived lifespans half as long as ours?
Another thing about Gary Taube of Lard, he doesn't even look all that skinny, at least not as skinny as you expect given his 6 foot 3 inch frame. Usually tall people have to work to keep on weight, but he's supposedly on a diet where fat just melts right off. In some pictures of him he even looks pudgy or doughy.
The problem with the first study cited is that it forced subjects to consume the same amount of calories, whereas in other studies that demonstrated a net fat loss, they were able to eat as much as they wanted on the ketogenic diet--they chose to eat fewer calories as their blood sugar was more stable and the food was more satiating.
@@CantEscapeFlorida It doesn't matter if its vegan or not. You will lose more musclemass on keto diet. Justä eat carbs, they even taste better than all that fat and you can eat much much more dor same amount of calories.
Quack Watch for who? Bacon companies? I know they have some keto snack bars now at the grocery store but it is like two kinds in a whole wall of protein bars.
I being in ketosis state by y accident since almost 6 years ago. All because I'm allergic to fruits and all plant based foods and fiber. How come I have lost a lot of fat and my muscles are bigger than before? My legs and butt are more thicker like never before and I don't even do that much exercise. People think that I am a weigh lifter, they ask me what do I do to look like this. I only tell them that I don't eat plant based foods. I eat a lot of eggs and meats. My doc says that my blood test is perfect just cholesterol is high but according to recent studies high cholesterol is not bad. My mom was diagnosed with liver cancer and I encourage her to start the keto, and guess what after 4 months her cancer was gone.
Yes, but which is the priority? Not everyone with high cholesterol gets CAD, and not everyone with low cholesterol is protected from it. Yet just about everyone who is obese is suffering in one way or another.
Not well designed study. The carb diet had 2x as much protein and wasn't really a "high carb" diet at all. The keto diet had not enough protein % and too high of fat %. It should have been designed to have the same amount of protein and then the carb and fat adjusted.
I lost 50 lb of fat on a ketogenic diet and have kept it off for 2 years easily and comfortably. I have never been able to so easily loose that much weight or keep the weight I lost on a high carb low fat diet. Oh and on keto + IF I have gained 10 lbs of muscle too.
This horrible garbage killed my mom. She was influenced to try keto by that article, and died of a massive heart attack. She had been eating plant-based some years prior and was doing well, then all of the "butter is good" misleading information was all over the place, so she decided to try "keto".
lol. Yep. They all do at first. The dude at my local health food store just quit keto as he said he saw the same thing happening to him. His fat loss actually slowed and he began to lose muscle.
I did keto carb and it worked and gave me many advantages and healed a lot of issues HOWVER! that doesn’t mean the king term effects are healthy. I have no regrets doing keto however I Prefer plant based. Keto is great to reverse medical conditions.
There's just too much success stories from people doing keto. And I mean, clean keto. I think you forget that. Hype all you want vegans, the only real reason you don't like keto is because it's almost impossible to bring carbs down on a vegan diet.
Yes, I'd love to see those two butt heads. I also trust Dr. Greger more, as Dr. Berg typically does not back up what he's saying about the dangers of eating grains/carbs with scientific data as Dr. Greger does.
It should be noted, however, that Johns Hopkins University did find that the ketogenic diet was amazingly good for people suffering from severe epilepsy. That doesn't apply to everyone, I know, but it is still worth knowing.
It should be noted that even for epilepsy the keto side effects were horrendous. But when you are between the epileptic rock and the longer term heart disease hard place....
amputation is good for people with gangrene. doesn't apply to everyone, but it is still worth knowing, isn't it? i'm sure it can be used for weight loss somehow
There has to more to this. So many people are reporting large amounts of weight loss, not just water and muscle, reversing diabetes, lower blood pressure, etc.
@Joseph1NJ A reason why some people appear to do well is that keto may be a great deal healthier than they were previously eating. Compared to the SAD, on keto a person is eating more vegetables ...maybe the most they've ever eaten[!], getting rid of processed food, and probably not overeating. All these things can make a big difference. And if they're healthier, great. However, a key question is what happens long term? While it's true that there are some positive anecdotes, they're generally short term. In all fairness, there are a lot of negative anecdotes as well, where biomarkers got worse, people felt bad, didn't lose weight, etc. Another concern is that a blood work numbers aren't always indicative of presence/ absence of disease. Thin doesn't necessarily equal healthy. I can't remember the %, but a disturbingly high % of people with heart disease don't know until their first heart attack, and a % of those don't survive. That scares me. Personally, I'm mostly vegan [I'll have some cookies or other junk with a small amount of milk or egg]. I feel that plant based is my best bet long term. I'm 50ish, so I don't choose to experiment for years. Be well : )
@@sharit7970 See, that's just it, the "science" is incomplete. I didn't want to speculate as to possible reasons why some do very well, but they're real, they exist, and science does not yet know why. Taubes and the rest are at best providing hypothesis, and he freely admits that. Obesity is a very complex issue. And until we have a better understanding of it, we shouldn't discount people's success. For them, the long struggle has finally provided results.
@@mrblob5413 Satiety is of course a significant factor. Can food act like cocaine? Maybe. Does it stimulate serotonin and dopamine receptors in the same way? And to what extent is that controllable? How does that effect vary from individual to individual. Science does not explain why keto diets provide the satiety some are unable to achieve elsewhere. I say its much more than just will power or discipline. Taubes, a physicist, speculates that insulin, a fat storing hormone among its other functions, plays a key role here. And that metabolically, insulin responds differently in some to high fat/ low carb diets than we thought it did, and its NOT the same for everyone. I say he has touched on just one of many, many factors. I personally would never go keto. But he asks an important scientific question, that is, why. Why does it work? What is it that we've been missing all of these years? Simply repeating the same old dogma from the last half century is no longer good enough. Science must continue to ask why. Just because we believe something to be true doesn't always means it is.
I have to say that I've gotten good results with keto - better than I did when I was vegetarian. The studies don't prove what the keto backers would like, but the study could also be flawed, bad methodologies, etc. I know it's only anecdotal, but I went from 240 lbs and flabby to 179 (so far) and strong as an ox. My blood sugar is now normal (I was diabetic) and my blood pressure is normal, my tryglisrides are normal.....maybe I was not doing the vegetarian diet correctly, but I feel fantastic and could never go back to the SAD. I think the main thing is to cut out processed foods and stop eating 24hrs a day. That will get you 80% of the way there. All I can say is I had (and have) sucsess with this diet. I have built muscle, not lost any. And the fat I had (almost entirely around my mid section) has disappeared. I like to hear all sides though and this was interesting.
Same exact thing for me. Eight months ago I was 237 and oddly enough upon reading this weighed in at 179 this morning. Weight was only one aspect of it as well. I had about two dozen medical issues (for years) that are either now gone or so mild as to effectively be gone. My allergies were so bad that I was Benedrylaholic. I had vertigo and near constant dizziness. My blood sugar swings were so bad that I sometimes thought I was dying and multiple times it was bad enough that I would call 911. Peripheral neuropathy was so bad that it was a supreme struggle to fall asleep. ...and a lot more. I still have work to do and more to learn but I'm 46 and feel better than I did when I was 26 and now that I've started exercising will soon be stronger too.
I switched to a keto/carnivore diet 6 months ago. I've had incredible results. I was in good shape before but now my body fat is around 10% while I also managed to add muscle mass. I feel strong and healthy like I'm 25 again (I'm 43). Everything is better now - skin, hair, endurance, strength, sex drive. Everyone I know who actually tried the keto diet has similar success stories. I'm sick of people trying to discredit the keto diet without having actually tried it themselves. I tried a vegan diet for a month once. I felt weak the whole time.
@@usernametaken5619 I don't think so. Your information is based on old, epidemiological (=bad) studies. There is no scientific evidence that a diet high in meat and fat causes heart disease. Look at the Inuit, they ate only meat and fish and absolutely thrived. They didn't have cardiovascular diseases until they started eating the crappy diet we introduced to them. I'm not ideologically driven, I'm only interested in what works for my body. If I felt great on a vegan diet I'd happily switch but when I actually tried it I felt unhealthy, bloated and weak.
I just did 6 months of Paleo/Keto and I did all the bloodworks and performance tests. They are perfect. Now I'm gonna do 6 months of vegan and see what happens
Funny to think how i started out as a vegan about 4 years ago (nolonger) to now I can not stand videos about diet or food. This video was in my suggestion and I immediately felt irritated. I’m so sick of the contractions around it’s and food , who’s right, who’s wrong that i literally gave up being a vegan. It’s literally too much. Who knew eating could become so dam complicated
So why does it work? I'm not saying you're wrong or that your research isn't on point but literally everyone I know who has tried the ketogenic diet has lost significant weight, become healthier (I can only verify myself in this claim) and kept the weight off? I went from 240 to 145lb and ended up becoming a semi pro (cat 3) crit racer all while on vegetarian keto, I almost never get sick and my blood panels I get done regularly for cycling are as perfect as they can be. My roommate went from 360 and is now at 240. My coworker went from 250 to 180 now. My cousin has lost 30lbs in 3 months. Then there's literally thousands of people on Reddit or other social media reporting the same success. How am I supposed to look at all that clear evidence that takes 0 research to see and buy into this video? The other thing is that you're getting the reason for keto wrong. Yes people talk about more fat burning but that's not the point. The point is appetite suppression and increased energy. You also don't shovel down fat because you're not eating carbs, because of the suppression of appetite you don't eat as much until you get down to a low BMI like me where I do need to increase my fat intake to maintain weight. But on the weight loss journey I was easily able to just slip right into intermittent fasting. Then there's piles of research that say the opposite of what your and your research claim. So in a topic even researchers can't agree on I'll go with what I've seen.
@UCan't Fool Me Always follow the paper trail. I do find that most videos against keto have a vegan bias. This is ridiculous because I'm a pescatarian who doesn't eat dairy myself and the majority (at least 95%) of my diet is entirely plant-based. Literally the only thing I eat that isn't vegan is Fish, honey, and insects. I only have Fish maybe twice a month. I do Keto incredibly easy on a plant-based diet even without the fish. So this vegan war on keto is unfounded.
whatever a keto diet can do for health and weight loss, a whole foods vegan diet can do it better. so this whole conversation is clearly pointless. Fat people losing weight proves very little.
@Dan M7 Diabetes improves with weight loss. There is no data that suggest keto improves insulin sensitivity without weightloss. Quite the opposite, insulin sensitivity decreases during keto [1], if you do not believe that make a OGTT on a keto diet. But when you feed people a high carb high fiber diet, force them to eat so much so they do not lse weight, their insulin sensitivity improves so much that they have lower blood sugar despite the higher carb intake [2]. We also have studies showing that people on low carb diets get more diabetes, and that people that eat more whole grains or fruits, which are both high carb foods, have less diabetes and people that eat more meat or eggs have more diabetes, both foods that many keto gurus eat a lot [3]. "How can you possible in your right mind say Keto does not work?" Because we didn't see studies supporting your claims. There are some diseases like epilepsy, some form of cancer and depression that can be treated with keto. But definitely not type 2 diabetes and also not the other diseases you mention, it also has some very bad side effects and the keto community does not talk a lot about the risk of keto. If you disagree show some scientific evidence. "There is undeniable evidence that it works," If there is so much evidence, then why did you not link a single study proving your claims? "works amazingly well for people who’ve failed on vegan diets." What has veganism to do with diet? You can eat a vegan keto diet. "This is why people think vegans are crazy. Just accept that meat and Keto is healing people." Yes, extremely crazy. Just show us evidence for your claims. Can you please define what you mean with "designed to be herbivores"? Herbivore is not a very precise term. "That’s why you cannot eat grass or leaves off trees without getting extremely ill," Nobody suggest we should do that. We are designed to eat starches, we have many more genes to create amylase than chimps do which we use to break down starch [4]. "to many beans and lentils." Do you have studies showing that legumes are unhealthy for the general population? Systematic reviews show the opposite [5]. "To much fructose is toxic to the liver." Do you now mix up refined sugar with whole fruit? Do you have studies showing whole fruit is bad for the liver? "Common sense dictates that we’re not designed to be vegan." Should we now listen to the common sense of a guy that does not cite any evidence for his claims or should we listen to scientific evidence such as systematic reviews? [1-5] Links in a separate reply, because TH-cam can shadow censor some comments with links.
My personal opinion is that high insulin levels make you consistently and gradually fattier. High glucose Low sodium> High insulin > Insulin Resistance > more adipose cells, more cortisol adrenaline and other salt retaining hormones > disbiosis and low production of stomach acids > high bacterial and fungal overgrowth in the digestive system (from the mouth to the rectum) > lowering bioavailability of nutrients > high toxicity at gut passing into blood flow> cravings, especially sugars, connected to internal starvation> and repeat the cycle
I had fatty liver before and when i started the keto diet it reversed it. I still believe the keto diet is great to do because i lost 70 pounds in 8 months with it, but again everyone's body works differently, so you do whats best for you. And for anyone whos health suffered from keto, all i can say is you didn't do it right, eating heavy amounts of bacon and cheese is not a good idea. I had bacon rarely and used other healthier unprocessed sources of fat.
Keto is good for short term. It is a diet for survival mode. Fatty liver is also reversed when you go 3 day or more water fasting. In the survival mode your body burns ketones and fatty liver is reversed.
There are a few local groups that swear by the ketogenic diet and that it will help "everyone" lose weight. I directly told them (each group) that it is not as good as they are making it out to be because I already put it to the test personally in my weight loss efforts. I saw less benefit than sticking to carb-heavy foods like, you know, veggies. Your channel has educated me on the keys of weight loss and healthy living and my trial run of keto proved it. Not just one trial run either. I have tried keto about five times over the years and each time it's the same. Sure, I lose some body weight, but it's not really fat loss and I felt my strength was declining in the process. I've settled on a diet with a base carbohydrate of rice or potatoes with pretty much all the veggies I want. It seems to be working. I just have to break old habits that are no good for me.
Soy boys hate the keto weight loss revolution, filling the cath lab one success story at a time. Thanks Gary Taubes, brave pioneer of revisionist history and revisionist science journalism.
Dr Gregor, not sure you actually read comments, or interested in feedback, but i ate a vegan plant based diet for 10 years then the last year, a “strict keto” diet. I’m also an endurance runner in my late 50s. I switched due to continual and slow rise of fasted glucose and a1c over the years. Keto does in fact show quick gains in terms of fluid loss, and yes people don’t really understand that. However, I’m not fat per se, was roughly 8 pounds extra fat on body prior to keto. On keto dramatically upped fluid intake, electrolytes. My weight was always been steady but trending slightly down over the last year (I’ve lost that 8 pounds in the first 6 months). My fasted glucose has dropped 25-30% since switching to keto and rock steady. A1c under 5 now. How does extreme carb restriction affect endurance running, it hasn’t - in fact perhaps better. Sleep, energy, moods - all improved. While I am not a vegan now, I eat a lot more veggies/dark greens now vs any time as a vegan, difference being i eliminated legumes and fruit and replaced with meat, nuts, and healthy oil fat (olive, coconut, and avocado). Neither as a vegan or keto do I ever eat processed food. Happy to discuss or share labs, results with you if you are interested in exploring the topic a little deeper.
Thank you so much for this awesome video!! People really need to hear the science on the matter. There are people who lose lots of weight on keto, but you are right about the caloric deficient. One person I know who did keto for a period of time paired it with intermittent fasting and lost so much weight while not being hungry at all. I don't think it's because carbs were making her fat, but instead because she was not eating enough. She also did lose muscle, especially in her legs and is now trying to get that back. Edit: (Sorry I forgot to finish the story) She is now, thankfully, off keto because her cholesterol went so high that her doctors wanted her on statins. (Explanation of the post. Sorry): All of this to say, the keto diet worked for weight loss, but she lost muscle too and she is now trying to get that back. She also mentioned that she was not hungry and people around the gym were worried about how much she was eating. So, all of this to say that this study is absolutely true. I have seen it happen.
Yes it "works" but it's a fad diet. You can't be on it for life (or even long term), or it will make you sick if not kill you. All of the studies say this is true, even for children who have to be on the diet due to seizures.
Based on your explanation it's obvious why your friend lost muscle... she wasnt eating enough, regardless of tje diet (keto, paleo, vegan, whatever) the body will degrade the muscles to compensate for the lack of food. Personally since I started keto I gained more muscle and strenght but I'm very conscious of my food... bacon or proccesed meats are big no no for me, instead I prefer avocado and spinach to supplement my (real, unprocessed, grass fed) meat.
@@justbreathe549 That was probably part of it. The scary thing though was that her doctors want her on statins now. My suggestion be wary of things. I like the fact that you are focusing on plant fats more than animal fats, but I will also say that there is tarting to be research to suggest that saturated fat does not have the harmful effect in our body when we get our protien from plants. Just something to think about. Have a lovely day!
@@RabbitFoodFitness While I'm on keto I do not advocate for only animal fats... it makes a really poor diet choice to believe bacon and stuff like that will keep you healthy in the long run. Anyone who tries to say different is just fucking insane. Funny thing is that since I started this life style (I refuse to call it diet, that word takes me back to my teen years when I only followed insane crash diets like detox juice) I started to eat even more vegetables than before... sounds crazy, right? Thing is now I eat spinach, cauliflower, broccoli... stuff I used to hate and now can't live without (try to take my friday cauliflower pizza from me and I guarantee a painful and slow death for you lol) I believe that no matter what you chose (vegan, paleo, keto, whatever) the key focus should be on healthy food... not the processed shit the industry likes to call food. Lovely day for you too :)
If I eat all plant/carb based, I lose weight. If I eat all meat/fat based, I lose weight. But I can never combine the 2 on any level. I truly believe the SAD has more to do with excess carbs and excess fat together. Each is diet challenging for me. In the end, I must choose the one that reverses heart disease, but I'm addicted to tri tip sandwiches. This is gonna be difficult no matter what I do.
I've always argued that the keto diet makes no sense. How could totally ignoring a 1/3rd of your macro nutrients, not eating fruits, but eating an unregulated amount of cheese and bacon help you lose weight? Not to mention the fact that the only people who visibly have good results from this are typically bodybuilders who would have visibly positive results from any diet. Any time i've seen an average person try the keto diet they don't lose weight. They do eat a lot of cheese and bacon, though. haha.
Nothing personal to you Alyssa Steven's. It sounds like you do research and know how to regulate a healthy diet in general. But I invite you to open up an app people popularly use for recipes, like Pinterest. Search the term keto. Maybe keto recipes, but nothing else. Count how many recipes include bacon & cheese. Not everyone is as regulated as you. Nothing personal, just the reality of fad diets.
Many iterations of the keto diet do not allow a majority of fruits. I've heard blueberries are ok in some but not others. They also require many restrictions and the clarity on what is 'ok' and 'not ok' are is lacking as a whole. When I say 'average person' I mean someone who does not have the time to commit serious research, as you have. Most who I have known to try the fad diet are working moms. They dont have time to workout. It doesnt work for them. That is who I consider the average person to use the system.
@@CantEscapeFlorida im sorry if you considered my opinion to be a personal attack but there is validity to what I'm saying in a way that applies to others, and I hope you and those who happen to see these comments can understand that. :)
@@CantEscapeFlorida good for you, Alyssa. As I said I'm sure you follow a healthy diet. But that doesnt mean everyone else who tries the keto diet gets the same information as you and is successful.
I like your work, I follow it for years and am pretty sure you are making most people healthier with you content. BUT 2 questions: 1) you seem to have an obsession about animal products. You never seem to see any good reason to consume them and they are supposed to be the worse evil (right after processed food). But when we look at the Blue zones (where people live the healthiest and the longest) although they eat little animal products, they do still consume a little bit... so I wonder if there is not another reason for being so decisive on things like organic grass fed beef or wild caught salmon... 2) regarding the low carb diets, it’s interesting to note that there 1 million ways to be low carb... you can even have quite a bit of fiber and eat a lot of vegetables on that kind of diet. You seem to not go into the details there and talk about low carbs in general which can mean pretty much anything. Just like you can have a very unhealthy vegan diet... because... fries... are vegan... beer... is vegan... so you don’t talk about vegan diets, you talk about « whole food plant based » and I get that. But what about an « organic whole food plant rich low carb » diet? 😉 Still love your content though but I can’t help myself to feel that there is maybe one other thing that is guiding part of the argumentation
You love the content because Greger has an engaging style, and something tells you plants "must" be healthy. The reason Greger isn't addressing your questions is that Greger is intellectually dishonest. He makes a living promoting plant based diets. Promoting plant based diets is the "product" he's selling. He looks for research to support his product all the time, research he can cite in these videos, which are essentially advertisements. You're as likely to hear Greger talk about the downsides of plants, or the benefits of animals, as you are to hear a Ford commercial touting the greatness of Audi's. Do you think Greger never comes across anything positive or neutral about animal foods? Once you face that one simple realization, you're ready to pull back the curtain and see Greger as the fraud pretending to be the wizard. Yes, the diets that contribute to longevity ... this is a very complex topic. The answer is clearly not that plant based diets are the healthiest. Obviously, there's nothing especially healthy about plant based foods. They are almost completely devoid of a number of crucial nutrients. Vitamin B12 and D are the two best known examples. Try being healthy without Vitamin D ... I dare you. According to a recent study in Israel, people with vitamin D levels below 30 ng/ml were 95% more likely to be hospitalized for covid-19. Another study from Indonesia found that about 99% of patients who died of covid-19 had vitamin D levels lower than 20 ng/ml. Yet, vitamin D is virtually absent from plant based foods. Also, keep in mind that you can "correct" a vitamin deficiency by supplementing. However, it's very likely that you'll retain permanent damage, for instance, genetic damage. Here's a simple two question private study you can run. Whenever someone tells you they're a vegan, ask them if they have a problem with vitamin D deficiency. (Answer is always: Yes, or, I don't know.) Whenever someone tells you they've had a vitamin D deficiency, ask if they are or were a vegan. (Answer is always: Yes.) Why isn't Greger talking about this? ... Why is he talking instead about bizarre claims about animal foods, which almost everyone eats without experiencing his scenarios, while ignoring a mountain of research contradicting him? Because he's a fraud. And I'm just getting started. What about vitamin K2? The research is stunning on how important this is for health. And what about the omega-3 fatty acid DHA, that people commonly associate with fish oil? DHA is the basic animal form of omega-3 fat. Plants have their own omega-3, which is different. This mismatch means your body has to struggle to convert plant based omega-3, from sources like flax seeds, to the form our bodies use. Note that your brain is about 2/3 fat, and about 1/6 of your brain by weight is pure DHA. Try getting your brain to work right, when it doesn't have the most important nutrient it needs. In fact, studies have found cognitive impairment among vegans. Gee, I wonder why? The problem with DHA is the problem with a lot of plant based nutrients. Since plant biology is radically different from animal biology, many of the nutrients from plants are in the wrong form for animals. Humans don't have all of the enzymes necessary for complete and efficient conversion. Why? Because we're obviously not herbivores. Humans have eaten animal food throughout all human history in every part of the world and in prehistoric times as well. We're somewhat adapted to survive by supplementing with plants Like I said, I'm just getting started. But don't let me stop you if you like the sound of Greger's voice and think, I want to be a vegan, don't let me stop you. Just make sure you only listen to Greger from that time forward. You won't want to know what's in the 99% of the research literature that he won't talk about.
@@rockysmitt "The answer is clearly not that plant based diets are the healthiest." No, in fact, the research is very clear that diets dominated by WHOLE plant foods (vegan or very low in animal foods) are healthiest. "Obviously, there's nothing especially healthy about plant based foods." Speaking as someone who researches and teaches nutrition, we professors are obviously failing to reach enough people. Plant foods have hundreds of phytonutrients animal foods lack. On average, plant foods have 64 TIMES as much antioxidant punch as animal foods (and oxidative stress is a common mechanism of most chronic diseases). Plant foods boost your body's ability to de-toxify air pollution, repair damaged DNA, produce CoQ10, fight cancer (garlic appears to be the best, but many in the cruciferous and allium families yield impressive results), reduce inflammation, etc. K2? Someone eating enough greens gets so much extra K1 they have plenty to covert to K2. Fats? Some of the healthiest and longest lived populations ate less than 10% of calories from fat, and while there is some reason to believe vegans should maybe take a vegan EPA/DHA supplement, many omnivores are low and that and need B12 supplementation too. But Olivier asked a sincere question: he's right Greger doesn't address often the possibility that eating animal foods might be beneficial 3-10 times a month--and it might be helpful even for some people even who eat a well-balanced vegan diet otherwise. There's just not much research that is that nuanced to provide fodder for videos and podcasts. " Humans have eaten animal food throughout all human history in every part of the world and in prehistoric times as well." Humans have also eaten plants throughout our history and they have often been the main source of calories and nutrients--including for some remaining hunter-gatherer tribes.
Have high-powered (larger sample) studies of ketogenic diets in nutrition wards been done? That’s what I’d want to base my decisions on-not one study with way less than 50 participants per condition.
I used to be low fat vegan but plateaued in insulin resistance improvement. I went to vegan keto because the fat burning vs glucose burning made allot of sense to me and the only difference between keto vegan and what Dr Greger and the Forks Over Knives group of Doctors espouse is keto vegan increases the good fats such as coconut oil, avocados, nuts and seeds instead of starchy veges such as potatoes, rice, corn, wheat etc. So we're no that far apart. I also stay away from most fruits other than limes and do several low glycemic berries such as blueberries, blackberries and strawberries. I have lost more weight, lowered blood sugar and have more energy than as a non keto vegan. My weight loss alone seems to contradict the 17 man study referred to in this video. This video assumes that by eating more fats, one would increase total calories and negate the fats burned which hasn't been the case. For me there is a loss of craving for more carbs and I actually eat less calories. The other thing that drew me to keto vegan is that of the three macros, carbs is the only macro that humans do not need at all. It doesn't make sense to me to up the starchy plant carbs in the face of that fact and the blood sugar spikes I get from them.
You said "This video assumes that by eating more fats, one would increase total calories and negate the fats burned which hasn't been the case." No it doesn't. The study was designed so that both diets had the same calories. That was the point of the study. See 2:58 Did you actually watch the video?
If you are not fat adapted, then you can’t expect to lose fat on a ketogenic diet. It takes weeks to months to get fat adapted. In this study, they started out by getting the patients to be insulin resistant and then switching to low carb diet thus setting them up for failure in the short term. The ketogenic diet does not work on a short term basis if you are not fat adapted. Eventually you would begin consuming less fat because you would be burning more of your own fat.
The problem everyone is looking for a miracle and there isn't one; lowering calories works, vegan works, lowering carbs works, intermittent fasting works. If you change the way you eat you will see results because the body is adjusting to the change. Personally as a vegetarian I believe that lowering carbs works because it worked for me. As a vegetarian we get in the habit of eating a lot of grains, pastas, etc... This can make vegetarians gain weight. In the low carb diet I ate a lot of fresh veggies ditched the rice, pasta, bread, sugar and upped my fats from avocados, grass fed butter, some nuts but didn't over do it. I also increased my exercise and did intermittent fasting (I didn't eat at night)This was something I could do as a new lifestyle not just short term. My suggestion is: stop looking for a miracle and put in the effort to change what made you unhealthy to begin with. Make sure that you go to the Dr on a regular basis to make sure you are on the right track for your body.
If you are vegetarian for concern for animal wellbeing, and not wanting to participate in needless animal death, then you should also be aware that millions of baby male chicks and calves are killed in the egg and dairy industry, and all animals in those industries end up in the slaughterhouse hanging upside down choking on their own blood as they die. Choosing plant milk instead of dairy milk is such an easy thing to do. There are nice vegan cheese like Violife Cheddar. Ben and Jerry's have nice vegan ice cream. Even though processed vegan foods aren't the most healthy, if you do want to treat yourself and enjoy some of those products, they are most definitely healthier than animal products. I have a "Dairy" playlist on my channel playlists if you are interested to learn more of the health risks with dairy.
@@ethicalrevolution3294 Agreed. I don't want to shame people for only being vegetarian, as any step towards more veg positivity should be welcomed by the community. But citing ethical reasons and only being vegetarian does suggest perhaps some incomplete info.
10 years on high carb, low fat, not oil. Still waiting to gain weight. I am lean as f..k and I eat tons of carbs daily with little to not exercise. Same my family on the same lifestyle. My cousins on the other end eating only animal products, cheese and eggs are fat and obese. They always look at me with envy but nobody wants to switch to my eating habits.
Thank you for pointing these things out. The way I have heard it explained to me, is that you have to add or decrease the amount of dietary fat in order to promote greater or lesser body fat composition. When in nutritional ketosis, once your ketogenic fatty meals are used up for energy, the body switches to burning its own fat stores for fuel between meals or during fasting periods, while lean muscle, in theory, is preserved by the proper moderate amount of protein intake. I find that you have to drink a lot of water to make up for the increased fluid and electrolyte loss on keto. But does keto reduce inflammation and therefore ease symptoms of inflammatory diseases and the growth of certain glucose-dependent cancers, as so many people attest? Listening to you.
Peter Kuskis all cells run on glucose, not just cancer cells. Check out the previous video he uploaded on keto last week. :) Inflammation might go down because people cut out refined sugar, some preservatives, refined grains, dairy and certain refined oils. However you can eat a plantbased diet without all of those! :) On keto you deplete your muscle glycogen stores. (Water + stored sugar that can be turned into energy fast) Drinking water won’t resolve that when you don’t eat carbohydrates. There are so many options to burn bodyfat. The most important thing is a caloric deficit. There are just more and less nutritious ways to get there.
Quack Watch Brah, shut up if you don’t know what I eat, or risking sounding like an abusive anonymous idiot. I haven’t eaten processed, or sugary foods in years. I meant the difference between healthy high carbs, as in a healthy whole food vegan, even, and low carbs-even plant-based, non-starchy, low carbs like all cruciferous vegetables (as one typically eats doing keto).
Lander Hendrickx I meant heathy carbs not crappy sugar-everybody knows that. I saw last week’s video and will take it into consideration. All kinds of people are treating cancer out there with keto and apparently getting excellent results-that needs to be explained!
Quack Watch I gather you know nothing of the work being done in the area of metabolic therapy by all kinds of practitioners getting real world results in terms of reversing cancer. Your ignorance is on full display, anonymous loser.
I currently do keto. I’ve done vegan in the past. The keto diet by far has helped me lose more weight, inched off the midsection, improved energy and concentration. But I believe there is a place for plant based too. So if the ancient ancestors were exposed to four seasons, there would be times where fruit and vegetables were plentiful and available for eating like the spring and summer and not in the fall and winter. Meat and fish is available all year round. So I think the ancestors ate both. What they didn’t eat in comparison to today is processed food and sugar. This is a commonality between meat based and plant based diets, the elimination of processed foods with multiple and chemical ingredients in it and sugary foods. On keto I can still enjoy some veggies and delicious berries while enjoying fish, steak, bacon, and eggs. It’s working for me, labs are great, I feel great. I respect plant based diets and not bashing it. I had decent results with it but for me keto has been better.
@@markwiener1091 yes I think location is / was a big factor in diet. People in arctic climates wouldn’t have access to the fruits and vegetables in Central America. And I still believe the processed food is bad all the way around especially if eaten all the time. I’ve heard of drinking ox blood.
Keto worked for me. Never felt better. Lost 50 pounds; Currently on Zero medication. Feel more energetic; I don’t feel satisfied eating only Plant based food. I don’t eat lots of fat, eat fish, eggs, meat; but eat a lot of vegetables. Ketogenic diet is being demonised; no need to eat tons of fat. Eating low carb with lots of vegetables and occasional fruit is good; i am keeping my optimal weight even after 3 years.
Carbage Man The gastrointestinal physician I saw told me the keto diet is a quick way to screw up your gallbladder. Diet plays a huge part in the health of that organ.
Carbage Man - Sure, the most common surgical procedure among U.S. women, I.e. the highest female BMI population on earth, is due to low fat consumption. Makes perfect sense.
@@CarbageMan The increase in obesity isn't because of a spike in cruciferous vegetable consumption either. Unless you're unscientifically lumping all carbs together, as Dr. Berg and others have done in an intellectually dishonest manner. There's a big difference between steel cut oats and refined sugar, but you wouldn't know it from reading your comment.
@@CantEscapeFlorida Talking about refined sugar is irrelevant to eating a whole food plant-based diet, though, just as refined oils is irrelevant as a criticism of the paleo diet. So what's your point?
It is already known in low-carb practice that water weight is lost in the first 1 to 2 weeks, BUT, after that, fat loss takes place. It is already known that excessive dietary fat can stall weight loss, BUT, knowledgeable scientists and doctors will tell you to increase protein instead of fat when this occurs. It is already known that muscle mass loss occurs during initial fat adaptation, BUT after that occurs, great strength gains can be made. Good job focusing on one study from years ago. The reason people do keto is that they see it work in others.
Eating more protein will also increases your insuline-levels, resulting in no more weigtloss. So not the smartest move ;) So stay away from proteinshakes unless you have a ridiculous work out schedule.
markshfr1 yes because a fad diet with complications such as heart arrhythmias, cardiac contractile function impairment, sudden death, osteoporosis, kidney damage, increased cancer risk, impairment of physical activity, increases all cause mortality and lipid abnormalities is a diet worth considering let alone following. Also, the ethics of consuming animals should not be off the table as well.
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@@aciditywormhole9898 It's easy to find studies which conclude what I want to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25178568. But when it comes to ethics, that is the real concern here, isn't it?
Share this to every piece of social media you have. Even though this is already public information, that effectiveness of the way Dr. Gregor explains this can be groundbreaking to the laymen. Sometimes effective communication is all that's needed
keto is great to get a reset after decades of damage done . for example to fix insulin resistance due to years of overeating and binging sugar . weight loss is a bonus .
@@ethelchip3620 Lmao my fasting insulin has reduced by 28% in three months doing keto, and my fasting glucose has dropped from 101 to 86 in that same time frame. You don't know anything about insulin if you think a low-carb, high-fat diet makes insulin resistance worse. There are plenty of other things up for debate such as heart health, but it is irrefutable that keto helps insulin resistance and reverses type 2 diabetes when done properly, cleanly, and especially when mixed with intermittent fasting.
@Kevin yeah it seems like there’s a ton of research linking saturated fat consumption to insulin resistance. Google it for yourself. Keto diets are typically high in saturated fat. The studies showing benefits are just short term because of weight loss.
2:50 he says 5% of calories came from carbohydrates... In a 2,000 Cal diet 5% is 100g of sugar!!! To start ketosis your limit is 20g and 50g if you exercise... So these people were not on ketosis.
@@Jalfred92 Yeah I corrected that later, still people have to keep in mind that 20g is the limit for a person that has been on carbs all their lives and its a daily limit, can't eat it all that at once... Eating more than 20g of carbs will result in catabolism where protein its turn into sugar and muscle lost. Which is what happen here... Also frequent eating messes up ketosis by spiking insulin, high insulin no ketosis.
I was on the keto diet for 10 months we went on vacation and I went off of the diet for the past 2 months What I learned while I was on the keto diet is my health improved quickly to the point where I had to lower my meds in the first 2 month blood pressure medications and diabetic meds I lost 55lbs in the first 3months which was great but at the same time freaked me out so I maintained that weight for the next 3 months then I lost anothe 20lbs over the last 4 months also while on the keto diet my choleterol levels got normal and my triglycerides dropped from 290 down to 160 when I went on vacation in July and started to eat a high carb diet all my cholesterol levels went back to where they were the previous year before I started the keto diet plus my a1c levels went up from 4.3 to 5.0 A1C levels are a measure of sugar in the blood 5.0 is still a good number but my cholesterol and triglycerides went back to the unhealthy levels. So needless to say at the beginning of September I went back on the keto diet. I am doing the keto diet for health reasons as well as losing weight and I don't buy any of their products except nutrition yeast which I happen to like on my daily salad. You guys can bash this diet any way you like I tried all the other diets the diabetic diet the heart association diet the diets the doctors told to follow and none of these worked but I got healthy on the keto diet and that's all that matters to me.
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dr. greger, at 4.50 previous sentence of you marked say that "DXA total lean body chance were not differentiated"
So now what? Which diet do you recommend to build muscle and stay lean? You seem to have a pretty good grasp of nutrition.
@@eduardocampos5739 he recommends a plant based diet, you can watch more of his videos, stay away from processed foods.
Need to support vegan diet? Bring out a dozen ethically conducted, controlled, double-blind, etc studies. Need to take down keto? Let's form our understanding this single study with ethical issues - funded by a company that embezzled funds. Yeah, that's great form, Michael Greger. Well done. Truly a great, objective, unbiased source of info on dietary topics.
Eduardo Campos A whole food, plant-based vegan diet rich in whole grains, fruits, vegetables, legumes, etc. All the protein you need to build muscles comes from plants, which also has fiber, phytonutrients, antioxidants, and other good stuff. You also have the added side effect of saving animals and going easy on the environment!
I failed at going vegan the first time around because I gave in to the keto narrative that starches made me fat. Now, I love my rice, potatoes, and beans while working out every day in my slimmer body!
My mom started the keto diet over a year ago to lose weight and help control her type 2 diabetes. She succeeded in those two objectives, but suffered a stroke last month. I have not heard anyone mention her stroke as being diet related, but everything I’ve ever heard about nutrition makes me believe it was. More and more friends of mine are going keto. I hate to be the sanctimonious vegan, but I genuinely worry for their health.
Gosh, you get better.
Joanna....so sorry for your loss. I do not think diet played a role in her stroke. Stroke is a broken blood vessel, many times from high blood pressure. I would blame her history of diabetes rather then a change in diet. Again, so sorry.
Definitely clogged arteries from the diet
@@logangaddy Thank you. That these people don't know that vascular congestion affects the brain as it does the area around the heart is galling! Maybe they don't know there are blood vessels up there?
Joanna’s Jungle that’s so sad :( I’m lucky my non vegan family members still eat starch based.
Well at least they had the decency to accurately report their findings instead of cooking numbers to suit their agenda.
Siphoning Blues or not publishing and shredding all of the evidence of the trial ;)
believe me they would try but in a metabolic ward p-hacking is kinda obvious if you try lol
Why would they have an agenda to make people go keto? What would be the motive? To sell all the keto products?
@@wofferful you need to read the wikipedia article on "bias"
@@wofferful Absolutely. Have a look at any of these guys, their websites sell very expensive supplements that are needed to go with these great diets for some reason.
Thank you Doctor. I am so very thankful I found your website and heard about a plant-based lifestyle after my heart attack 4 years ago, at age 61.
I’ve never felt better. ♥️
K H what was your diet like before that heart attack? Thank you for speaking up and getting connected and going WFPB /Vegan!
Red Pill Vegan:
Standard American Diet....red meat, lots of burgers, very few veggies or fruits really, chicken dishes. LOTs of cheese on everything, casseroles, fast food, sugary desserts, etc. All for years. Had to have 2 stents put in. Sure was a big wake-up call.
K H glad you’re feeling and doing well. May I ask, what blood thinner were you on, and how long did you take it? Were you able to come off of it after a year which is normally recommended?
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Hi. I stayed on my blood thinner for 2 years I think. It was a generic Plavix. I was not as compliant the 1st year as I should have been. But have since done well.
K H thank you for the reply. I was asking for my father who just went what you went thru and now I’m helping him find healthier avenues to help in his recuperation. I think if he stays compliant with a WFPBD he may be able to wing himself off the placid after the year which his doctor said he will need to stay on.
When he says “PUT IT TO THE TEST” and “UNTIL...NOW” I get excited
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Me too 😂
Losing water
It's time for them to rename this diet again.
Bullsheeto diet
No one named anything. Ketosis is a state of metabolism and we have always had this metabolism since we became humans. Some people feel theyre not human.
@@dana102083 It was called Atkins. Now it's called Keto.
@@zorro149 Nope. Atkins is a completely seperate thing.
@@grantosullivan9789 It's all low carb.
Thank you Dr. Gregor for setting me straight! I have been doing keto for 3 months, and the scale told me I have lost about 30 pounds. But now that I have watched your video, with all of your helpful stats, facts, and words, I realize the scale has lied to me! Keep up the great work. :/
Of course carbs are fatning, I realized 30 years ago while travelling around East Asia that rice and veg eating people were morbidly fat and Americans so trim that you could walk all day amongst thousands and thousands of people and not see one single fat person. Total common sense.
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Good one!! Im sure some people are stupid enough to take you seriously
Hong Kong has the highest meat consumption per capita in the world, and also the highest average life expectancy in the world. It's the ultimate Blue Zone. Don't take my word for it, look it up, it's an easy fact to check... Kinda shoots a big old hole in your sarcastic comment...
@@NickFoxer Unfortunately that doesn't mean much in the context of degerative disease. Most people in Hong Kong suffer degenerative disease for 5-10 yrs prior to death. Unlike Okinawa /Sardinia etc where they are active up until 1-2 months before death.
Americans eat far more carbs than East Asians, who actually eat a diet high in meat and seafood. A bowl of rice is a lot less carbs than a twelve-inch 'personal' pizza. Also vastly more fructose in the American diet, which is why people on the SAD are prone to developing diabetes and fatty liver disease.
As a result of reading this study, the rate of cognitive dissonance among ketogenic diet proponents went up 100%
@@briansprenger5578 it can take up to 10 days for the body to stop gluconeogenisis, their diet went for 4 weeks. Try again
@Quack Watch hold my keto wine glass, I'm about to do my dismount.
Lol! Hey you look familiar!
@@FranchiseCityOnline I get around 😉
@GawdSpeed 6 weeks?! Not even keto die hards have the commitment to wait that long for results..
Finding 'your own' sweet spot of daily carbs is the key to your own weightloss. As the same with fats. Your body talks to you. You need only listen.
Jason Fung tho. The study was biased by vegans tho. Twitter tho. The people's ketones were biased by Vegetable intake (known carcinogen) tho. They were not fasted 18/6 tho. They were still addicted to carbs tho. Soy.
Not grass-fed. Lol.
Red Pill Vegan the study design was flawed. Keto benefits only kick in after 8 weeks ;)
The researchers didn’t blend high quality grass-fed butter into their coffee tho. The fat in the coffee really gets the brain working and ramps up the fat burning. Flawed study.
@Quack Watch keto blogs > phd research every time
@@TheBirdyyeses facts
Oh he dragged Nina. At least she recycles tho, respect.
Haha 💕
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@@holisticbiohacker8144 wanker
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I was a healthy man of 45 years, and was stupid enough to do a keto diet, for 2 years. The outcome was: gained weight, high cholesterol, very bad mood, muscle cramps and finally heart arrythmia which led to a stroke. Now, since 2 years I am more or less on Dr Gregers way of eating, and all shitty keto symptoms gone. I would really like to sue them keto charlatans one day!
I am sorry to disagree here, I am a female in my late 70es who had been on a strict vegan diet for a long time but stopped because it made me sick. I developed joint pain, sagging crepe looking skin which was dry and sallow looking, fatigue, cholesterol going up instead of down, blood glucose shooting up and a general feeling of feeling unwell. I have been on a low carb diet for about 3 months now and haven’t felt that good in a very long time! My joint pain is pretty much gone, my skin has made a dramatic turnaround that even my husband asked me what I was doing! My cholesterol is coming down again and my glucose and A1c are back to normal again. I also don’t look anymore like death warmed over like a lot of vegans do and who just look gaunt, I also no longer believe anything what Mr. Gregor is saying because everyone is different, we are not cookie cutter humans where one mold fits all. Some people will do well on a vegan/vegetarian diet and others like myself do not and to say that a low carb diet will kill you is really dumb because everyone will die one day, nobody will live forever no matter what you eat!!!
think you did nail that not every human is the same. this is just, based on science, what he is recommending. it may not work for you and that's okay.
you nail it ma"am....not everyone is immortal....do the way (keto/vegetarian diet) that suit to your body...
Excellent video. Kevin Bass is also doing a thorough debunk of low-carb claims on his website at "Nutritional Revolution". The only reason people lose weight on Keto is because they cut calories. It's really that simple. And.. it doesn't work for many people too. I wish they weren't so zealous about it. Lots of former low-carbers have moved on to more reasonable approaches to weight loss that works for them.
I love Kevin Bass, but I eat exclusively bacon and butter, and i eat SO MUCH ribeye, 6-7lbs at a time, and I reversed stage 8 cancer and lost 187 lbs, and also cured my depression and skin issues! No case study was written, just this comment. Kevin Bass must be biased!
It's easier to cut calories when fat is high, proteins adequate and simple carbs are low. The low carb diet keeps blood glucose stable. It works for me.
Tine P - There would be no arguments if the Keto experts would just say ‘Keto keeps you satiated longer, which helps you lower your caloric intake and lose weight’. No, they have to go down the road of ‘carbs make you fat’ and ‘cholesterol doesn’t cause heart disease.’
I´ve got so sick on one month ketogenic diet, and ruined my health ,recovery lasted me a year or so..I was using the best virgin oils,organic nuts and seeds,as much greens as I could fit into low carb intake, didnt lose any weight except water weight first week..Would not recommend to anyone.
Keto vanishes the appettie and people love it
You know, I'm not a vegetarian/vegan, and I have a lot (far too many) of friends on the keto diet. They all want me to join 'cause it's so great... and in some ways I feel like go ahead it's your body, but it's always looked like an eating disorder to me. Hopefully some keep doing research from sources other than their favorite circles.
I like 'Eat whole foods, not too much, mostly vegetables'. Just makes more sense to me. Thanks for the video.
That's exactly what the ketogenic lifestyle is. You just described it. 8 cups of vegetables a day, less than 50 carbs, the rest fat and low-moderate protein. That's the cleanest you can get. No one is telling you to chug down oil and eat cheeseburgers 3 meals a day.
@@mikelattens3180 you mean dead animals and liquids from their body, why not call it for what it is? I also say I'm eating rice and beans, I don't say I'm eating "carbs".
@@ImprovingAbility Your argument of "dead animals and liquids" is something that every vegan throws their virtual flag upon, claiming victory. What is all that you consume made out of? Dead plant material. If you want to take the moral high ground, consider first taking a look at what allows for the sustenance of 8 billion people on this planet. Everything you consume, unless you are composting and growing EVERYTHING at your own ability, is made out of the remnants of animal tissue, fat - carcasses in general.
As for why not calling it for what it is: I personally consume (at least) 80% of my intake from plant-based sources such as MCT oil, olive oil, 6+ cups of vegetables a day, DHA/EPA from algae, low-glycemic fruits and my fair share of almond milks, coconut milks, and their respective flours.
Find a better argument. Would you say the equivalent to Inuit tribes that live in the far North America parts of the world that also happen to consume 80%+ of their food through "dead animals and liquids"? I wonder what they would eat if they got on the same high horse that you sit upon.
Michael Stolarz pretty sure he was taking the scientific intellectual high ground since he pointed out two things that negatively impact your health.
Lewis Blanchard they give animals all those supplements as well. Fortified food takes care if those no problem. While not clogging your arteries or causing diabetes
After years of passive silence , Dr. Greger has gone head first on Keto. I'm glad he's made videos on correcting people and educating them on this keto fad ! Officially through the videos, specifically!!!!!
@@CantEscapeFlorida Are you a pro-keto promoter ? Or a vegan ?
Fad?
They have been studying Keto for double the time of veganism.
Yet another muppet that only listens to the preacher rather than studying what is said.
@@takeoffyourblinkers then explain what's wrong with the way he explains this video? Use evidence to support your claims. There are heaps of evidence that prove increase of fat causes increase in all cause mortality. Must I link?
@@jannlucilleloncio2739 Keto involves consuming fats at large.
Almost all antioxidants and cancer preventive compounds are from plants.
Losing weight does not equate to being healthy just by that analogy.
Fasting can grant you more benefits and you can still lose weight with plenty of AMPK activity and inhibition of NF-κβ and TNF-α.
I'm not saying on what should you be eating and what not. I expressed what I felt like.
You lost weight because your Apo-E gene facilitated it. Those with slight modifications in that gene can bring serious consequences to you if you're either on just high carb or high fat diets.
Plant based diets are safe.
There's a great video on TH-cam by some Dr. On Apo-E and has a book by that same term.
All the best.
@@jannlucilleloncio2739 I just don't you why did you come here and comment on my thread and ask me silly questions and then say if it suits me then I should have it.
I didn't ask you to troll me, can you get a grip of your life ?
For all the Keto PhDs in the comments arguing that the study participants weren't given enough time to get into ketosis, you should know that they tested for respiratory quotient; all the participants were 'fat-adapted' after the 1st week of switching to the keto phase of the study.
FINALLY! I've been waiting for you to kill the keto diet with science (humanely, tho) for a looooooong time
The state of ketosis is officially dead thanks to you. Humanity will from henceforth only burn glucose for energy. As your next trick, could you make snow illegal?
After being vegan / vegetarian for over 45 years I got in the car wreck. The drugs disrupted my digestive system and a year later I went on a ketogenic diet for 2 years. I was diagnosed with several autoimmune disorders and was on five or six different drugs including Humira Remicade steroids and painkillers. Keto got me off all of these drugs and back to normal and now I'm half vegan half Keto. You don't know anything when you say debunk a keto diet until you actually get sick and have to use one to save your life.
@@KeyofDavid5778 amen! Sometimes you have to explain to the vegans that there's a thing called autoimmune disease (maybe they've heard of it, maybe they haven't) and some people who have it (like me) are actually worse off doing the vegan diet. The whole grains and legumes are actually more inflammatory and disrupt the gut more than they are good. Switching to keto (keto done the right way which is a whole food diet that includes a steady stream of veggies and leafy greens along with wild caught salmon wild caught chunk light tuna 100% grass fed and finished beef pasture raised chicken and eggs nuts seeds coconut oil mct oil avocado oil ... Etc.) Is actually the healthiest route for them. I know, I've done both whole food diets and have better results with clean keto than vegan. Better results as measured through blood tests, best blood pressure in my life, best cardiac throughput while exercising (I.e. significant reduction in peek exercise pulse rate), coronary artery calcium score of 0 (at age 45). Also some people don't switch to keto just to lose weight (that's something I don't need to do) but rather it's the healthiest way for them as verified by their own measurable tests/results.
@@KeyofDavid5778 oh man, so sorry for you! do you do vegan keto or half/half in an other way? because I guess you can do any diet in a wrong way, but also in a better way. if you don't know her, check our "TheVeggieMD" on Twitter/IG, she did a vegan Keto challenge for 2 weeks, and gives a lot of insights, ressources, facts, research etc. :)
@goggles789 I don't, I have read many of the studies myself and have experienced with my own body. Have you tried a whole-foods, plant-based diet for yourself? no sure, 17 men is not the hardest evidence ever, but show me one randomised controlled trial with hundreds of people showing that a keto (or for that matter high fat, low whole grain) diet is healthy long term...
Finally some clarity on this matter!
Jones - exactly! 👏🤡I love when he “puts it to the test” AKA, gives us his opinion on the matter! 🥼🤡(he doesn’t ever “test” anything, which is actually quite brilliant! just GIVE us the clarity, and move on!)
@@charathcutestory he gave his opinion on nothing, he literally just read straight test results and data from actual studies, which is a lot more credible than using clown emojis to get his point across 🤡🤡
What does the Keto do to your heart, liver, kidneys and the rest of your stomach’s dedicated followers? In the last 14 years that I switched to vegetarian my cancer tumours just faded away, whereas my younger brother has been on and Atkins now even longer and has had, amongst other things, to have his heart stopped and restarted twice, and in the last year has had to wear a walk around monitor several times. Now this is only anecdotal, but I will add that I saw my grandfather, my father, and my two older brothers also succumb to cancer. Which is why it’s not just anecdotal to me.
So you are trying to tell me your family only follows the extremes of eating, either vegetarian= you, or the rest= atkins.
I call bullshit.
Stop with the hyperbole.
My vegan grandparents succumbed to dementia and Alzheimer’s. Albeit their hearts were fine. Could never follow in their tofu and beans madness.
Thank you so much, Dr. Greger. Sorry you have to waste your time explaining the obvious.
nothing is obvious until you put it to the test.
@Bruce Leroy Come into the light.
@Bruce Leroy triggered? :p
@Bruce Leroy Dr. Greger read this, as you and I can. He's never ran, been part of a clinical practice of weight loss, or any other that we know of. He's a researcher. I personally am against the keto diet, and have kept in shape for decades the old fashion way, good diet and exercise, but the science still isn't clear. So many are reporting large amounts of weight loss, reversal of diabetes, off blood pressure meds, etc., and we still don't know why. You can't just loose 40, 50, 60 or more pounds of "muscle and water." All we have are bits and pieces of the "science."
I personally know of a man who lost nearly 100 pounds. We can all speculate as to it could have this, or it could have been that, but that's not good enough. To convince a formerly obese man on 6 different meds, now taking none, who's lost 100 lbs that what he's doing is wrong with a 6 minute video just doesn't cut it. Obesity is a very complex and not yet fully understood symptom, and varies greatly from person to person. Keto is as popular as vegan these days, and not because people like to eat fat.
You're making the same mistake as many keto proponents: to blindly assume what you think is correct. Better keep an open mind.
I hope Dr. Greger also will explain other downsides of keto, like possible gut flora defecation (?) or other process in the body that are hampered..
For the record on Gary Taubes:
Gary Taubes set up a million dollar research to prove his theories on fat. It was hilarious because the end results were the scientific evidence concluded that his theory on fat was wrong. But then Gary Taubes blamed the scientists (that he hired) that they did the research wrong.
REFERENCES: Out of Gary Taubes' own mouth himself on the Joe Rogan Debate:
Joe Rogan Experience #1267 - Gary Taubes & Stephan Guyenet
A.I. - Vegan doctors are MUCH smarter than him, especially when they use the refrain “intra-myocellar-lipids”!
after they say that term, the debate is over and the vegans have won!
It's hilarious 😂. Oh Gary... How can you be upset about & blame the methods used in a study, when you're the one who approved those methods to begin with?
@@sonja4164 Hey, at least we have a million dollar independent unbiased research from Gary Taubes. He hired the Scientists himself to prevent biased research. He then gave the tick of approval to go ahead with the research. And then he was proven wrong. Thank you Gary :)
Of course the latest piece of research does actually support Gary's thesus , but that was when a real scientist LUSTIG as opposed to Hall did it . Oops
@@amandaatkins4771 but how exactly did he do it? Is it even reliable to believe? Did he figure out a way to fake it? At the end of the day its still likely a biased study
I’m no expert, but I know it is misleading to point out the loss in muscle mass. From my understanding, this loss is a temporary reduction in glycogen stores and water mass in the muscles. It’s not a loss of actual muscle fibers.
Jakob Davenport - Nice theory, but...’Body composition changes were measured by dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry’.
@@megavegan5791 That's probably extremely accurate, I realize that. I'm only calling into question the assumptions of his evaluation of the experiment. Does lower muscle mass truly mean that strength has been permanently lost? This, and the other point people have been bringing up in the comments, that ketosis takes a while to start up on a keto diet, leaves me still unable to rule out the keto diet as a potentially healthy option.
I'm not a vegan i've been diagnosed with prediabetes, after that i decreased my carbs heavily , and tried to eat enough to build muscle, it turned out it's an impossible task ! Without carbs there is NO muscle !
You have to have energy to lift, therefor building muscle.
Hahaha without PROTEIN there are no muscle. There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate!
@@karinet7952 Yes, there is, it's called glucose and it's the only thing your body runs on. The only thing. That's why your body converts protein and fat into glucose. It can't use them directly as energy. Look up the Krebs Cycle. It explains everything.
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lol the term essential means your body has obtain from external source your liver can make all the glucose you need with out an external source.
@@bobmonk388 Ah, so why have I been eating all this food all my life? Damn, I wish someone had told me all this sooner! I could have saved all this grocery money and bought a house! Shoot, I am gonna save so much time and money now! Thanks!!
LOVE this video. * NOW WITH THIS VIDEO i FINALLY KNOW THAT FOR MANY THIS KETO DIET DOES NOT WORK* I didn't lose weight on Keto..... I did it diligently for several months. I ate "uber" healthy counted net carb grams(( carbs - fiber)). Also tried counting EVERY single carb gram - regardless of dietary fiber - which is even less carbs. My fats never came from TransFats no canola oil, or refined oils((=oils processed by means of over-processing and very high heat)) ect. I ate a variety of avocados, coconuts, nuts & seeds, olives. No weight loss, and struggled to not gain weight - shockingly NOT the diet for me. Since stopping Keto, I am now losing weight again. Yeah! :-)
Your life must be so sad, calculating and punching numbers for everything that you intake.
Maybe that was your problem. Also weight loss shouldn't be the goal, how long did you do it for?
What fat were you losing that you couldn't see? ie fat around your organs.
Me, I dropped my carbs in food, no measuring, and inflammation went in three days. I even kept by daily beer habit to make sure it was my dietary food that made the difference.
See how simple it is to find a winner.
@goggles789
Countless others btw.
Better yet, check your thyroid, or cortisol, estrogen levels that affects the fat loss. I did ketogenic diet for 1 year and it's effective. And healthy
Intermittent fasting works very well with KETO. I do body pump and am having no problem putting on muscle mass.
Keto while vegan is not good... Your fat must be mostly animal fat.
Seeds make you gain weight and disrupt the omega3 levels in your body creating inflammation. If you think about it, it wouldn't be possible for you to be a caveman and walk hundreds of miles to find all of these seeds and thousands of miles during winter... So it had to be meat, that is the body system you were issued.
I would love to see studies on vegan keto diets.
restricting carbos in VD is nonsense, every legume has carbos, you'll end eating seitan + veggies
@@rodrigoreparaz1813 Veggie meat plus veggies, yes. A number of fibrous vegetables are very low in carbs.
I'm not a vegan but I would also be interested, most of the bad stuff about the keto diet is the bad fats, but 18/6 hour fasting on a vegan diet might have interesting benefits.
Nobody wants to eat nuts and oil all day lol
@@turdturret39 Was instead thinking low carb veggies, tofu, veggie meat, etc
Appreciate you, Dr. Greger! One of your vids made me quit Keto today. Have chosen the whole plant food way instead. Thanks for bringing forward the info. It was the vid with the info about breast cancer, petri dishes and blood samples. Oh my!!!!!
@Peter Rabitt Thanks for the recommendation!
McGregors videos are highly selective and outragiously twist scentific research. He did a video on a paper which 'proved' high carb vegan was great for treating diabeties. When I downloaded and read the actual paper it said the opposite, the low carb group had better blood suger and control! You cannot trust him or his videos. He has one viewpoint and a pile of books etc... to sell depends on it!
@@AnHeC diabetes is not reversed DUE to a high carb diet, it is reversed by a diet - reducing calories and thus improving insulin sensitivity by cutting body weight. This reenbles the body to process carbs. By definition diabetes is a disease in which the body cannot process carbs! A low carb diet has auch more dramatic effect despite the lies and spin of the vegans
@@AnHeC slandering someone isn't a good argument either, you're making the same mistake in the same comment
@@SlobberySlobtype 2 diabetes is not a disease, it's a physiological response to the stress produced by insulin spikes, that's why you reserve it, but can't actually cure it.
Don't be too hard on vegans or vegetarians, some of them are assertive enough to tell that keto is not only healthy, but also sustainable on the long term, as evidenced by people like Dr. Berg or Luis Villaseñor. My only problems are individuals like the man of these videos that point with the finger and lie about the so called "opposite side" that only creates conflicts between people that have the same goal: stay healthy.
Have some patience, they'll soon understand who's at their side.
Tufano is going to have a tantrum
Get ready for more completely misrepresented science
Leonardo Da Vinci
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So is Dr Berg.
These people are like Trump voterz a faith based initiative--impervious to facts.
Golden Knight Libs do believe a lot of crazy shit but come on, y’all are like on another planet.
Dr. Greger, I am sure you are a FBI agent undercover as a nutritionist 😝
Ketogenic Diet BUSTED 😂
Yes! He does do such an amazing job with all of his videos doesn't he?
You mean MD not RD - as in he's undercover as an MD
@@CantEscapeFlorida So you think the biased people who paid 40 million for a study didn't do whatever they could to make it look positive towards their bias?
Indirectly claiming that the body's energy exependure would change after more time just proves that you have no idea what you're talking about. There is a reason why the study didn't need to continue and even the biased called it a closed case - maybe you should spend time studying biology instead of advertising ignorance online.
@@pfwinbar Humans started eating dead rotting animal bodies millions of years before they started eating genetically engineered modern apples my friend, and you wouldn't be here if your ancestors (even your close ancestors) didn't bust their ass to hunt animals. Doesn't matter how bad you want to make it sound, our digestive tract is very well designed for meat consumption. It takes more time to digest animal foods because our body absorb more out of it.
@@byReZio Yes and they were also eating lot of cooked tubercules, highly available in Africa. I begin to think more and more than both keto and plant based are wrong. High carb low glycemic index, high animal protein is maybe more close to what our ancestors ate every day.
Yeah eating a ton of saturated fat and listening to Jimmy Moores advice on how to be healthy never did quite seem like a great idea.
Like it or not but there is 0% since proving saturated fat is bad. Only some epidemiological studies. So please prove first scientifically but not religiously.
@@AnHeC science evidence? or you're not able to distinguish between pool and real science?
Exactly😂
@@AnHeC why is eating what you're made of delusional? We are not made of smoke, we're are mostly fat, protein and water. Get a better comparison next time.
I did Keto diet about 10 years ago (about 1 year before I went vegan). Holy crap I felt like trash. I stuck with it for about 1 year and felt absolutley dreadful the entire time. It detroyed my cycling ability (I went from being able to smash out 70kms per day to struggling to ride 9kms to work). My sweat smelled like vinegar. I had all sorts of GI issues including (but not limited to) severe constipation and crippling gut pain (that caused me to leave work and go home about 7 times). I could go on. It was bloody aweful. Then I went vegan and started smashing the fruit, veges, lentils/beans, rice and potatoes/sweet potatoes and ... everything started working again. I could also actually think clearly again. For me Keto was an unmitigated disaster. WPF for the win! Just as an aside has there been any research done on doing a WPF Keto diet? That would be interesting. I think it'd be MUCH better than animal based.
Strange,on keto I was able to smash 320 км a day easily on "hairshirt" rides after I was over 50 years old.
@@scotttiger8905 hahahahaahahahaha! Yeah right.
Thanks so much again, Dr. Greger, for explaining all this so expertly!
Maureen K
he is truly an expert!
we must worship his interpretation of medical research, especially because other doctors may be incorrect!!!
charathcutestory that worshipping mentality is cancerous
@@kx7500 😂👍
Good Video, I did keto for 3 months with my normal calories and lost 40lbs. Mostly body fat.....Energy levels were off the charts but I did mostly vegan fats from nuts, avocados etc.... Guess everyone is different
And many people think the Keto diet and the carnivore diet are one in the same. I eat more veggies on keto than I did before. I eat TONS of macadamian nuts, 1g+ of fat per nut
@@datsuntoyy Yeah, keto means you produce ketones, period. You don't have to eat a steak deep-fried in butter for every meal.
@@jb_1971 Now I'm hungry. Had to mention steak.
First off I follow a keto WOE and have lost 80lbs in a year in combination with intermittent fasting. I have followed vegan and vegetarian diets on the past with no success in terms of weight management. I was aware of the study you mentioned and the issues surrounding it. I would be interested to hear what you would suggest the mechanism is behind the fat loss people experience on a keto WOE is if it is not due to insulin model? As clearly something is going on which enables people to drop the stomach inches. Many thanks.
Same here Nick. I’m dropping pounds and inches since starting keto diet, even with a cheat meal on the weekends. I feel better, bacon, eggs and steak are delicious too.
Dont make things complicated, Way of Eating? Way of Life? lol
“I have followed vegan and vegetarian diets” that says absolutely nothing about what you actually ate
if you ate lots of cheese and other dairy products or processed carbs and lots of oil then no wonder you didn’t lose weight
The reason why you lost weight is because regardless of diet composition, calorie restriction works. Eating less of anything will make you lose weight.
It has been showed that certain diets fit better with certain people. And although I would argue that a keto diet isn't optimal for health, any diet that makes you lose significant weight (hence increasing every marker of health) and keeps you there (no rebound), is a diet you should stick to. One should try, however, to transition to a plant-based diet once his ideal weight achieved to see if he can make it work, health being achieved at this stage by improving food choices.
Congrats on the tremendous results. Hopefully they have continued. Don’t forget to monitor your serum lipids though and make sure you don’t fall prey to the “they don’t matter” crowd. They do matter, if you accept statistics as being valid.
I discovered this study a few months ago and used it to dunk on my low carb sisters-in-law who’s a nurse ... hire me Dr Gregor
I think mic the vegan talk about this study before. Many dislikes for that video.
I'm currently studying an open University degree in nutrition at the minute and it is citing Gary taubes's research as an alternative theory to recommended dietary requirements. I'm so glad that this video exists as I can now share it in my tutor group to all the advocates of keto!!!
Please show me one life long low carb/ keto person who has healthy blood work. I have a feeling I may be waiting for a while.
Eskimos spend their whole life in keto. They have seriously good life expectancy considering their uncivilized life and no access to health care.
And diabetis and cardiac problems are unheard in them.
@@lockhrt999 Show me your studies showing that Eskimos have a superior life expectancy without any disease. Also please provide evidence that they are in a state of constant ketosis. Thanks
@@CantEscapeFlorida When are you going to stop messing around and just go vegan already?
@@lockhrt999 valid point. Until it was totally debunked by actual science.
nutritionfacts.org/2018/07/12/the-eskimo-myth/
Interesting video. It's promoted as a fat loss diet; yet according to this study it's not really a good weight loss option. In a way it shows the body doesn't like being in a fat burning mode for very long.
I have always maintained that ketogenesis is just an evolutionary mechanism by which hominids survived temporary periods of extreme privation of optimal foods. I now think, after looking into vegan keto regimens, where a higher ratio of carbs can be eaten without suspending the ketogenic state, that even in extreme privation, hominids sought out small amounts of optimal foods to supplement their fat based diets until the optimal foods were abundantly available again. We're not built to constantly scavenge fatty tissue off of the carrion of an apex predator.
Very helpful, thank you.
Sorry, Doctor, but I stopped eating carbs and started eating lots of saturated fats, and guess what? I lost heaps of body fat. I gave up my vegan diet, which had kept me obese for years. Also, as a T2 diabetic, I now have the HbA1c percentage of a non-diabetic.
This information can't come fast enough. Everyone I talk to who is trying to lose weight, universally say, "I'm cutting carbs". It will be fun watching the keto craze die out.
@michael plemel 🤣 Yeah I botched that one pretty good. I guess that's what happens when you comment on the run. My bad, better luck next time. Thanks for pointing that out. 😁👍
@Youarewhatyoueat the way people on the keto diet or paleo diet eat is tremendously different. The style of eating that paleo biologist are maybe discovering dies out already. Last I checked they are not finding people from millions of years ago downing dairy, oil, processed meat, processed foods in general, and all other processed keto or paleo foods. The keto diet is a joke and will be 100% proven so in due time.
@Youarewhatyoueat all processed foods are bad. But if you want a side by side comparison of a whole food plant based diet and a keto diet, the whole food plant based diet will easily dominate it for best diet for longevity, disease reversal, disease prevention, and micronutrient content. There is no comparison really, whole food plant based diet is far superior than the keto diet.
When someone tells me that on their ketogenic diet all they eat is bacon, egg , steak, and cheese I know right away that it is an idiotic diet. Of course, I understand that Intermittent fasting and restricting carbs on some days (something like carb fasting day) can help with diabetes. But I don't support a full keto.
I think you got it wrong, you also eat a lot of vegetables on keto. If you didn't you'll end up with electrolite deficiencies.
People on keto diets consume far less calories which leads to the weight loss. The study kept the calories up. The conclusion of the study rightfully destroys the hypothesis that fat calories are magic but it didn’t address the behavioral change in people who adopt keto diets.
This study is not a correct representation of a healthy keto plan, it's a bad example to use. I didn't use this ridiculous version of keto and nobody should. It's a bad keto version 💯
You mean because they can't bare to eat another bowl of mayo? The study also didn't look into the high levels of igf-1 from high protein diets, which are linked to cancer and aging.
Thousands of people have reversed their type 2 diabetes, cholesterol, high blood pressure, PCOS, infertility...the list goes on...by going on a low carbohydrate diet. Cutting out sugar and grains is the healthiest thing you can do for yourself.
Bingo
Thank you Dr. Greger...for bringing light onto this planet. I have used your videos and books as a great source of inspiration for myself, friends, and my Personal Training clients. Slowly but surely, there is shift in human consciousness and our awareness about food happening. You are a maverick leading at the forefront. Keep up the good work!
There's a slight problem here. In the study "Energy expenditure and body composition changes after an isocaloric ketogenic diet in overweight and obese men." the study was supposed to be isocaloric (as the title says).
However, in the study itself it says:
"A major limitation of our study is the unintentional weight loss. Despite slight positive energy balance during the chamber days, the overall negative energy balance amounted to ∼300 kcal/d and was likely due to greater spontaneous physical activity on nonchamber days."
These guys were in caloric deficit - that's probably why they lost lean mass. I think every bodybuilder will tell you that when you "cut", you have to increase your protein intake to avoid this muscle loss (probably by increasing IGF-1).
The caloric deficit also explains why the fat loss slowed - their metabolic rate slowed down to match the caloric deficit.
But eh, I'm no expert.
Ok, so I was sceptical about this video and just to see if I could 'trust' it I headed quickly over to the sources. Half of them were from 2002 (interesting) and I clicked on a more recent one, the one where Dr. Greger mentions that keto crossfiters lost muscle mass. Just reading this abstract you can already tell Dr. Greger just picks out what he wants from these studies, isolates it and uses it for his point.
The end of the abstract states: 'While our n-sizes were limited [my add: control group n=5, keto dieters n=7 btw], these preliminary data suggest that adopting a ketogenic diet causes marked reductions in whole-body adiposity while not impacting performance measures in recreationally-trained CrossFit trainees. Whether decrements in dual-leg muscle mass and vastus lateralis thickness in KD participants were due to fluid shifts remain unresolved, and increased LDL-C in these individuals warrants further investigation.'
So to summarize: Keto dieters lost weight, didn't have lower performance, no data on if actually lean body mass was lost or just fluid shifts, and some controversial blood markers shifted to warrant further investigation.
But all Dr. Greger takes from this is "keto dieters are losing lean body mass from this diet".
Tell me this is not wilfully deceiving by Dr. Greger. So much for your 'NutritionFacts'.
I assume the rest of his points are equally cherry picked, isolated and overstated. If you want to be taken seriously you should never be caught obviously deceiving like this. And this was literally the first thing I picked out to look further into and right away found this discrepancy. Honest mistakes are one thing, but it is obvious this guy presents all this stuff only to fit what he wants to be true. I'll stick to thinking for myself.
BOOM! This is 24K Solid Gold, could not wait to share it with all my friends who think Keto is the way because they have been misled by those trying to profit from it.
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@@cytwc I'm most interested in the long term consequences of not secreting adequate insulin as the evidence I've seen shows it's as damaging as having raised/high spikes all the time. Keto is basically a starvation diet because long term it completely tanks your metabolism so you end up eating only several hundred cals a day just to not get fat.
@Youarewhatyoueat Smoking too has been around for 1000s of years.. I love that appeal to the past argument. Are you seriously suggesting we are of similar intelligence to humans 1000s of years ago who knew nothing whatsoever & lived lifespans half as long as ours?
@Youarewhatyoueat th-cam.com/video/VX4fkXneRz0/w-d-xo.html
Another thing about Gary Taube of Lard, he doesn't even look all that skinny, at least not as skinny as you expect given his 6 foot 3 inch frame. Usually tall people have to work to keep on weight, but he's supposedly on a diet where fat just melts right off.
In some pictures of him he even looks pudgy or doughy.
The problem with the first study cited is that it forced subjects to consume the same amount of calories, whereas in other studies that demonstrated a net fat loss, they were able to eat as much as they wanted on the ketogenic diet--they chose to eat fewer calories as their blood sugar was more stable and the food was more satiating.
We have to start to debunk diets meant to gain financially instead of the betterment of our health!
@@CantEscapeFlorida It doesn't matter if its vegan or not. You will lose more musclemass on keto diet. Justä eat carbs, they even taste better than all that fat and you can eat much much more dor same amount of calories.
Quack Watch for who? Bacon companies? I know they have some keto snack bars now at the grocery store but it is like two kinds in a whole wall of protein bars.
I being in ketosis state by y accident since almost 6 years ago. All because I'm allergic to fruits and all plant based foods and fiber. How come I have lost a lot of fat and my muscles are bigger than before? My legs and butt are more thicker like never before and I don't even do that much exercise. People think that I am a weigh lifter, they ask me what do I do to look like this. I only tell them that I don't eat plant based foods. I eat a lot of eggs and meats. My doc says that my blood test is perfect just cholesterol is high but according to recent studies high cholesterol is not bad. My mom was diagnosed with liver cancer and I encourage her to start the keto, and guess what after 4 months her cancer was gone.
Atherosclerosis is not worth weight loss
Atherosclerosis is due to high CHO spikes in your blood.
@@briansprenger5578 What have to do animal protein with Artheroscerosis?
Brian Sprenger study?
Yes, but which is the priority? Not everyone with high cholesterol gets CAD, and not everyone with low cholesterol is protected from it. Yet just about everyone who is obese is suffering in one way or another.
@@briansprenger5578 Sticky proteins, I've never heard of that. You mean like peanut butter? Relax, just kidding.
Not well designed study. The carb diet had 2x as much protein and wasn't really a "high carb" diet at all. The keto diet had not enough protein % and too high of fat %. It should have been designed to have the same amount of protein and then the carb and fat adjusted.
I lost 50 lb of fat on a ketogenic diet and have kept it off for 2 years easily and comfortably. I have never been able to so easily loose that much weight or keep the weight I lost on a high carb low fat diet.
Oh and on keto + IF I have gained 10 lbs of muscle too.
Lifting weights is an amazing fat burner. Keto not even needed.
@@amidtheruinsOVERHAUL yes I completely agree!!!
This horrible garbage killed my mom. She was influenced to try keto by that article, and died of a massive heart attack. She had been eating plant-based some years prior and was doing well, then all of the "butter is good" misleading information was all over the place, so she decided to try "keto".
Lite Hold that’s horrible, I’m so sorry. I am worried about my ketro friend too.
@@sidilicious11 - thank you. Keto is very damaging, I hope your friend comes to her senses.
@Peter Rabitt - It is criminal what these people are doing. I hope you win, and thank you for helping victims of "Keto".
"But I feel good..."
lol. Yep. They all do at first. The dude at my local health food store just quit keto as he said he saw the same thing happening to him. His fat loss actually slowed and he began to lose muscle.
Theres actually a thing kalled keto flu.
You can feel dizziness, headaches, loss of sleep, argivation, concentration problems. So messed up.
I did keto carb and it worked and gave me many advantages and healed a lot of issues HOWVER! that doesn’t mean the king term effects are healthy. I have no regrets doing keto however I Prefer plant based. Keto is great to reverse medical conditions.
There's just too much success stories from people doing keto. And I mean, clean keto. I think you forget that. Hype all you want vegans, the only real reason you don't like keto is because it's almost impossible to bring carbs down on a vegan diet.
Waiting for this for so long. thank you Doctor
Have a debate with Dr. eric berg, i would love that!
I would too
I trust this guy a bit more, and I happen to like Dr Berg a lot.
Yes, I'd love to see those two butt heads. I also trust Dr. Greger more, as Dr. Berg typically does not back up what he's saying about the dangers of eating grains/carbs with scientific data as Dr. Greger does.
Eric Berg just likes to sell his supplements.
It should be noted, however, that Johns Hopkins University did find that the ketogenic diet was amazingly good for people suffering from severe epilepsy. That doesn't apply to everyone, I know, but it is still worth knowing.
Yes Dr. G addressed that in a previous video. The diet is a medical therapy, not a weight loss regimen.
Yes you are absolutely right sir. !!!
It should be noted that even for epilepsy the keto side effects were horrendous. But when you are between the epileptic rock and the longer term heart disease hard place....
amputation is good for people with gangrene. doesn't apply to everyone, but it is still worth knowing, isn't it? i'm sure it can be used for weight loss somehow
There has to more to this. So many people are reporting large amounts of weight loss, not just water and muscle, reversing diabetes, lower blood pressure, etc.
@Joseph1NJ there is, he’s just cherry picked some crap and ignored the rest. Do your own research, don’t listen to this quack
@Joseph1NJ A reason why some people appear to do well is that keto may be a great deal healthier than they were previously eating. Compared to the SAD, on keto a person is eating more vegetables ...maybe the most they've ever eaten[!], getting rid of processed food, and probably not overeating. All these things can make a big difference. And if they're healthier, great. However, a key question is what happens long term? While it's true that there are some positive anecdotes, they're generally short term. In all fairness, there are a lot of negative anecdotes as well, where biomarkers got worse, people felt bad, didn't lose weight, etc. Another concern is that a blood work numbers aren't always indicative of presence/ absence of disease. Thin doesn't necessarily equal healthy. I can't remember the %, but a disturbingly high % of people with heart disease don't know until their first heart attack, and a % of those don't survive. That scares me. Personally, I'm mostly vegan [I'll have some cookies or other junk with a small amount of milk or egg]. I feel that plant based is my best bet long term. I'm 50ish, so I don't choose to experiment for years. Be well : )
@@sharit7970 See, that's just it, the "science" is incomplete. I didn't want to speculate as to possible reasons why some do very well, but they're real, they exist, and science does not yet know why. Taubes and the rest are at best providing hypothesis, and he freely admits that. Obesity is a very complex issue. And until we have a better understanding of it, we shouldn't discount people's success. For them, the long struggle has finally provided results.
That's because there *IS* more to the this! ☺ going keto isn't just about weight loss.
@@mrblob5413 Satiety is of course a significant factor. Can food act like cocaine? Maybe. Does it stimulate serotonin and dopamine receptors in the same way? And to what extent is that controllable? How does that effect vary from individual to individual.
Science does not explain why keto diets provide the satiety some are unable to achieve elsewhere. I say its much more than just will power or discipline. Taubes, a physicist, speculates that insulin, a fat storing hormone among its other functions, plays a key role here. And that metabolically, insulin responds differently in some to high fat/ low carb diets than we thought it did, and its NOT the same for everyone.
I say he has touched on just one of many, many factors. I personally would never go keto. But he asks an important scientific question, that is, why. Why does it work? What is it that we've been missing all of these years? Simply repeating the same old dogma from the last half century is no longer good enough. Science must continue to ask why. Just because we believe something to be true doesn't always means it is.
I have to say that I've gotten good results with keto - better than I did when I was vegetarian. The studies don't prove what the keto backers would like, but the study could also be flawed, bad methodologies, etc. I know it's only anecdotal, but I went from 240 lbs and flabby to 179 (so far) and strong as an ox. My blood sugar is now normal (I was diabetic) and my blood pressure is normal, my tryglisrides are normal.....maybe I was not doing the vegetarian diet correctly, but I feel fantastic and could never go back to the SAD. I think the main thing is to cut out processed foods and stop eating 24hrs a day. That will get you 80% of the way there. All I can say is I had (and have) sucsess with this diet. I have built muscle, not lost any. And the fat I had (almost entirely around my mid section) has disappeared. I like to hear all sides though and this was interesting.
Same exact thing for me. Eight months ago I was 237 and oddly enough upon reading this weighed in at 179 this morning. Weight was only one aspect of it as well. I had about two dozen medical issues (for years) that are either now gone or so mild as to effectively be gone. My allergies were so bad that I was Benedrylaholic. I had vertigo and near constant dizziness. My blood sugar swings were so bad that I sometimes thought I was dying and multiple times it was bad enough that I would call 911. Peripheral neuropathy was so bad that it was a supreme struggle to fall asleep. ...and a lot more.
I still have work to do and more to learn but I'm 46 and feel better than I did when I was 26 and now that I've started exercising will soon be stronger too.
I switched to a keto/carnivore diet 6 months ago. I've had incredible results. I was in good shape before but now my body fat is around 10% while I also managed to add muscle mass. I feel strong and healthy like I'm 25 again (I'm 43). Everything is better now - skin, hair, endurance, strength, sex drive. Everyone I know who actually tried the keto diet has similar success stories. I'm sick of people trying to discredit the keto diet without having actually tried it themselves. I tried a vegan diet for a month once. I felt weak the whole time.
Sadly you are setting yourself up for a heart attack.
@@usernametaken5619 I don't think so. Your information is based on old, epidemiological (=bad) studies. There is no scientific evidence that a diet high in meat and fat causes heart disease. Look at the Inuit, they ate only meat and fish and absolutely thrived. They didn't have cardiovascular diseases until they started eating the crappy diet we introduced to them. I'm not ideologically driven, I'm only interested in what works for my body. If I felt great on a vegan diet I'd happily switch but when I actually tried it I felt unhealthy, bloated and weak.
I just did 6 months of Paleo/Keto and I did all the bloodworks and performance tests. They are perfect. Now I'm gonna do 6 months of vegan and see what happens
And? I'm very interested
What happend
How was it?
You don't think swinging from one extreme to the other is more of a psychiatric disorder? 😅
Funny to think how i started out as a vegan about 4 years ago (nolonger) to now I can not stand videos about diet or food. This video was in my suggestion and I immediately felt irritated. I’m so sick of the contractions around it’s and food , who’s right, who’s wrong that i literally gave up being a vegan. It’s literally too much. Who knew eating could become so dam complicated
So why does it work?
I'm not saying you're wrong or that your research isn't on point but literally everyone I know who has tried the ketogenic diet has lost significant weight, become healthier (I can only verify myself in this claim) and kept the weight off? I went from 240 to 145lb and ended up becoming a semi pro (cat 3) crit racer all while on vegetarian keto, I almost never get sick and my blood panels I get done regularly for cycling are as perfect as they can be.
My roommate went from 360 and is now at 240.
My coworker went from 250 to 180 now.
My cousin has lost 30lbs in 3 months.
Then there's literally thousands of people on Reddit or other social media reporting the same success. How am I supposed to look at all that clear evidence that takes 0 research to see and buy into this video? The other thing is that you're getting the reason for keto wrong. Yes people talk about more fat burning but that's not the point. The point is appetite suppression and increased energy. You also don't shovel down fat because you're not eating carbs, because of the suppression of appetite you don't eat as much until you get down to a low BMI like me where I do need to increase my fat intake to maintain weight. But on the weight loss journey I was easily able to just slip right into intermittent fasting.
Then there's piles of research that say the opposite of what your and your research claim. So in a topic even researchers can't agree on I'll go with what I've seen.
@UCan't Fool Me Always follow the paper trail. I do find that most videos against keto have a vegan bias. This is ridiculous because I'm a pescatarian who doesn't eat dairy myself and the majority (at least 95%) of my diet is entirely plant-based. Literally the only thing I eat that isn't vegan is Fish, honey, and insects. I only have Fish maybe twice a month. I do Keto incredibly easy on a plant-based diet even without the fish. So this vegan war on keto is unfounded.
whatever a keto diet can do for health and weight loss, a whole foods vegan diet can do it better. so this whole conversation is clearly pointless. Fat people losing weight proves very little.
Caloric deficite.
@Dan M7
Diabetes improves with weight loss. There is no data that suggest keto improves insulin sensitivity without weightloss. Quite the opposite, insulin sensitivity decreases during keto [1], if you do not believe that make a OGTT on a keto diet. But when you feed people a high carb high fiber diet, force them to eat so much so they do not lse weight, their insulin sensitivity improves so much that they have lower blood sugar despite the higher carb intake [2].
We also have studies showing that people on low carb diets get more diabetes, and that people that eat more whole grains or fruits, which are both high carb foods, have less diabetes and people that eat more meat or eggs have more diabetes, both foods that many keto gurus eat a lot [3].
"How can you possible in your right mind say Keto does not work?"
Because we didn't see studies supporting your claims. There are some diseases like epilepsy, some form of cancer and depression that can be treated with keto. But definitely not type 2 diabetes and also not the other diseases you mention, it also has some very bad side effects and the keto community does not talk a lot about the risk of keto. If you disagree show some scientific evidence.
"There is undeniable evidence that it works,"
If there is so much evidence, then why did you not link a single study proving your claims?
"works amazingly well for people who’ve failed on vegan diets."
What has veganism to do with diet? You can eat a vegan keto diet.
"This is why people think vegans are crazy.
Just accept that meat and Keto is healing people."
Yes, extremely crazy. Just show us evidence for your claims.
Can you please define what you mean with "designed to be herbivores"? Herbivore is not a very precise term.
"That’s why you cannot eat grass or leaves off trees without getting extremely ill,"
Nobody suggest we should do that. We are designed to eat starches, we have many more genes to create amylase than chimps do which we use to break down starch [4].
"to many beans and lentils."
Do you have studies showing that legumes are unhealthy for the general population? Systematic reviews show the opposite [5].
"To much fructose is toxic to the liver."
Do you now mix up refined sugar with whole fruit? Do you have studies showing whole fruit is bad for the liver?
"Common sense dictates that we’re not designed to be vegan."
Should we now listen to the common sense of a guy that does not cite any evidence for his claims or should we listen to scientific evidence such as systematic reviews?
[1-5] Links in a separate reply, because TH-cam can shadow censor some comments with links.
[1] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31067015
[2] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/495550
[3] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5506108/
[4] www.newscientist.com/article/mg21428680-900-lucky-accidents-of-human-evolution-switch-to-starch/
[5] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28446499
My personal opinion is that high insulin levels make you consistently and gradually fattier. High glucose Low sodium> High insulin > Insulin Resistance > more adipose cells, more cortisol adrenaline and other salt retaining hormones > disbiosis and low production of stomach acids > high bacterial and fungal overgrowth in the digestive system (from the mouth to the rectum) > lowering bioavailability of nutrients > high toxicity at gut passing into blood flow> cravings, especially sugars, connected to internal starvation> and repeat the cycle
It's a beautiful thing isn't it? You are entitled to your own opinion. Even if the scientific facts point in the totally opposite direction.
Yea that's not how any of that works, try again
@@robertusga keto is great for ppl with insulin resistance wtf u saying
@@azorahai5158 ah finally an expert. I am sure you have evidence based scientific studies to back up your bold claim.
Wow! Thank you.
I had fatty liver before and when i started the keto diet it reversed it. I still believe the keto diet is great to do because i lost 70 pounds in 8 months with it, but again everyone's body works differently, so you do whats best for you. And for anyone whos health suffered from keto, all i can say is you didn't do it right, eating heavy amounts of bacon and cheese is not a good idea. I had bacon rarely and used other healthier unprocessed sources of fat.
Keto is good for short term. It is a diet for survival mode. Fatty liver is also reversed when you go 3 day or more water fasting. In the survival mode your body burns ketones and fatty liver is reversed.
There are a few local groups that swear by the ketogenic diet and that it will help "everyone" lose weight. I directly told them (each group) that it is not as good as they are making it out to be because I already put it to the test personally in my weight loss efforts. I saw less benefit than sticking to carb-heavy foods like, you know, veggies. Your channel has educated me on the keys of weight loss and healthy living and my trial run of keto proved it. Not just one trial run either. I have tried keto about five times over the years and each time it's the same. Sure, I lose some body weight, but it's not really fat loss and I felt my strength was declining in the process. I've settled on a diet with a base carbohydrate of rice or potatoes with pretty much all the veggies I want. It seems to be working. I just have to break old habits that are no good for me.
Soy boys hate the keto weight loss revolution, filling the cath lab one success story at a time. Thanks Gary Taubes, brave pioneer of revisionist history and revisionist science journalism.
Dr Gregor, not sure you actually read comments, or interested in feedback, but i ate a vegan plant based diet for 10 years then the last year, a “strict keto” diet. I’m also an endurance runner in my late 50s. I switched due to continual and slow rise of fasted glucose and a1c over the years.
Keto does in fact show quick gains in terms of fluid loss, and yes people don’t really understand that. However, I’m not fat per se, was roughly 8 pounds extra fat on body prior to keto. On keto dramatically upped fluid intake, electrolytes. My weight was always been steady but trending slightly down over the last year (I’ve lost that 8 pounds in the first 6 months). My fasted glucose has dropped 25-30% since switching to keto and rock steady. A1c under 5 now. How does extreme carb restriction affect endurance running, it hasn’t - in fact perhaps better.
Sleep, energy, moods - all improved. While I am not a vegan now, I eat a lot more veggies/dark greens now vs any time as a vegan, difference being i eliminated legumes and fruit and replaced with meat, nuts, and healthy oil fat (olive, coconut, and avocado). Neither as a vegan or keto do I ever eat processed food. Happy to discuss or share labs, results with you if you are interested in exploring the topic a little deeper.
Veggie keto: low carbs, low-moderate protein, moderate fat from good sources, heaps of vegetables.
Thank you so much for this awesome video!! People really need to hear the science on the matter. There are people who lose lots of weight on keto, but you are right about the caloric deficient. One person I know who did keto for a period of time paired it with intermittent fasting and lost so much weight while not being hungry at all. I don't think it's because carbs were making her fat, but instead because she was not eating enough. She also did lose muscle, especially in her legs and is now trying to get that back.
Edit: (Sorry I forgot to finish the story) She is now, thankfully, off keto because her cholesterol went so high that her doctors wanted her on statins.
(Explanation of the post. Sorry): All of this to say, the keto diet worked for weight loss, but she lost muscle too and she is now trying to get that back. She also mentioned that she was not hungry and people around the gym were worried about how much she was eating. So, all of this to say that this study is absolutely true. I have seen it happen.
Yes it "works" but it's a fad diet. You can't be on it for life (or even long term), or it will make you sick if not kill you. All of the studies say this is true, even for children who have to be on the diet due to seizures.
@@Skweepa Yes. I completely agree with that. That's the point I was trying to make with my story. Thank you for summarizing it better.
Based on your explanation it's obvious why your friend lost muscle... she wasnt eating enough, regardless of tje diet (keto, paleo, vegan, whatever) the body will degrade the muscles to compensate for the lack of food.
Personally since I started keto I gained more muscle and strenght but I'm very conscious of my food... bacon or proccesed meats are big no no for me, instead I prefer avocado and spinach to supplement my (real, unprocessed, grass fed) meat.
@@justbreathe549 That was probably part of it. The scary thing though was that her doctors want her on statins now.
My suggestion be wary of things. I like the fact that you are focusing on plant fats more than animal fats, but I will also say that there is tarting to be research to suggest that saturated fat does not have the harmful effect in our body when we get our protien from plants. Just something to think about. Have a lovely day!
@@RabbitFoodFitness While I'm on keto I do not advocate for only animal fats... it makes a really poor diet choice to believe bacon and stuff like that will keep you healthy in the long run. Anyone who tries to say different is just fucking insane.
Funny thing is that since I started this life style (I refuse to call it diet, that word takes me back to my teen years when I only followed insane crash diets like detox juice) I started to eat even more vegetables than before... sounds crazy, right? Thing is now I eat spinach, cauliflower, broccoli... stuff I used to hate and now can't live without (try to take my friday cauliflower pizza from me and I guarantee a painful and slow death for you lol)
I believe that no matter what you chose (vegan, paleo, keto, whatever) the key focus should be on healthy food... not the processed shit the industry likes to call food.
Lovely day for you too :)
I'm so hyped for all the keto dudes that will come here to discuss their diet and how this study was done wrong.
"They weren't given enough time to get into Ketosis! Whaaaaa!"
If I eat all plant/carb based, I lose weight. If I eat all meat/fat based, I lose weight. But I can never combine the 2 on any level. I truly believe the SAD has more to do with excess carbs and excess fat together. Each is diet challenging for me. In the end, I must choose the one that reverses heart disease, but I'm addicted to tri tip sandwiches. This is gonna be difficult no matter what I do.
@@CantEscapeFlorida no doubt keto works for weight loss but it loses more muscles as well which looks bad.
@Quack Watch out of bounds !
@@CantEscapeFlorida you clearly were eating too much then. Learn to count calories, you can't lose weight effectively if you don't know how to
I've always argued that the keto diet makes no sense.
How could totally ignoring a 1/3rd of your macro nutrients, not eating fruits, but eating an unregulated amount of cheese and bacon help you lose weight?
Not to mention the fact that the only people who visibly have good results from this are typically bodybuilders who would have visibly positive results from any diet. Any time i've seen an average person try the keto diet they don't lose weight. They do eat a lot of cheese and bacon, though. haha.
Nothing personal to you Alyssa Steven's. It sounds like you do research and know how to regulate a healthy diet in general.
But I invite you to open up an app people popularly use for recipes, like Pinterest. Search the term keto. Maybe keto recipes, but nothing else. Count how many recipes include bacon & cheese. Not everyone is as regulated as you. Nothing personal, just the reality of fad diets.
Many iterations of the keto diet do not allow a majority of fruits. I've heard blueberries are ok in some but not others.
They also require many restrictions and the clarity on what is 'ok' and 'not ok' are is lacking as a whole.
When I say 'average person' I mean someone who does not have the time to commit serious research, as you have. Most who I have known to try the fad diet are working moms. They dont have time to workout. It doesnt work for them. That is who I consider the average person to use the system.
@@CantEscapeFlorida im sorry if you considered my opinion to be a personal attack but there is validity to what I'm saying in a way that applies to others, and I hope you and those who happen to see these comments can understand that. :)
@@CantEscapeFlorida lol, I dont think a healtht vegan diet is as accessible for the average person either.
@@CantEscapeFlorida good for you, Alyssa. As I said I'm sure you follow a healthy diet. But that doesnt mean everyone else who tries the keto diet gets the same information as you and is successful.
I like your work, I follow it for years and am pretty sure you are making most people healthier with you content.
BUT
2 questions:
1) you seem to have an obsession about animal products. You never seem to see any good reason to consume them and they are supposed to be the worse evil (right after processed food). But when we look at the Blue zones (where people live the healthiest and the longest) although they eat little animal products, they do still consume a little bit... so I wonder if there is not another reason for being so decisive on things like organic grass fed beef or wild caught salmon...
2) regarding the low carb diets, it’s interesting to note that there 1 million ways to be low carb... you can even have quite a bit of fiber and eat a lot of vegetables on that kind of diet. You seem to not go into the details there and talk about low carbs in general which can mean pretty much anything. Just like you can have a very unhealthy vegan diet... because... fries... are vegan... beer... is vegan... so you don’t talk about vegan diets, you talk about « whole food plant based » and I get that. But what about an « organic whole food plant rich low carb » diet? 😉
Still love your content though but I can’t help myself to feel that there is maybe one other thing that is guiding part of the argumentation
You love the content because Greger has an engaging style, and something tells you plants "must" be healthy. The reason Greger isn't addressing your questions is that Greger is intellectually dishonest. He makes a living promoting plant based diets. Promoting plant based diets is the "product" he's selling. He looks for research to support his product all the time, research he can cite in these videos, which are essentially advertisements. You're as likely to hear Greger talk about the downsides of plants, or the benefits of animals, as you are to hear a Ford commercial touting the greatness of Audi's. Do you think Greger never comes across anything positive or neutral about animal foods? Once you face that one simple realization, you're ready to pull back the curtain and see Greger as the fraud pretending to be the wizard.
Yes, the diets that contribute to longevity ... this is a very complex topic. The answer is clearly not that plant based diets are the healthiest.
Obviously, there's nothing especially healthy about plant based foods. They are almost completely devoid of a number of crucial nutrients. Vitamin B12 and D are the two best known examples. Try being healthy without Vitamin D ... I dare you. According to a recent study in Israel, people with vitamin D levels below 30 ng/ml were 95% more likely to be hospitalized for covid-19. Another study from Indonesia found that about 99% of patients who died of covid-19 had vitamin D levels lower than 20 ng/ml. Yet, vitamin D is virtually absent from plant based foods. Also, keep in mind that you can "correct" a vitamin deficiency by supplementing. However, it's very likely that you'll retain permanent damage, for instance, genetic damage.
Here's a simple two question private study you can run. Whenever someone tells you they're a vegan, ask them if they have a problem with vitamin D deficiency. (Answer is always: Yes, or, I don't know.) Whenever someone tells you they've had a vitamin D deficiency, ask if they are or were a vegan. (Answer is always: Yes.)
Why isn't Greger talking about this? ... Why is he talking instead about bizarre claims about animal foods, which almost everyone eats without experiencing his scenarios, while ignoring a mountain of research contradicting him?
Because he's a fraud.
And I'm just getting started. What about vitamin K2? The research is stunning on how important this is for health. And what about the omega-3 fatty acid DHA, that people commonly associate with fish oil? DHA is the basic animal form of omega-3 fat. Plants have their own omega-3, which is different. This mismatch means your body has to struggle to convert plant based omega-3, from sources like flax seeds, to the form our bodies use.
Note that your brain is about 2/3 fat, and about 1/6 of your brain by weight is pure DHA. Try getting your brain to work right, when it doesn't have the most important nutrient it needs. In fact, studies have found cognitive impairment among vegans. Gee, I wonder why?
The problem with DHA is the problem with a lot of plant based nutrients. Since plant biology is radically different from animal biology, many of the nutrients from plants are in the wrong form for animals. Humans don't have all of the enzymes necessary for complete and efficient conversion. Why? Because we're obviously not herbivores. Humans have eaten animal food throughout all human history in every part of the world and in prehistoric times as well. We're somewhat adapted to survive by supplementing with plants
Like I said, I'm just getting started. But don't let me stop you if you like the sound of Greger's voice and think, I want to be a vegan, don't let me stop you. Just make sure you only listen to Greger from that time forward. You won't want to know what's in the 99% of the research literature that he won't talk about.
@@rockysmitt "The answer is clearly not that plant based diets are the healthiest." No, in fact, the research is very clear that diets dominated by WHOLE plant foods (vegan or very low in animal foods) are healthiest.
"Obviously, there's nothing especially healthy about plant based foods." Speaking as someone who researches and teaches nutrition, we professors are obviously failing to reach enough people. Plant foods have hundreds of phytonutrients animal foods lack. On average, plant foods have 64 TIMES as much antioxidant punch as animal foods (and oxidative stress is a common mechanism of most chronic diseases). Plant foods boost your body's ability to de-toxify air pollution, repair damaged DNA, produce CoQ10, fight cancer (garlic appears to be the best, but many in the cruciferous and allium families yield impressive results), reduce inflammation, etc.
K2? Someone eating enough greens gets so much extra K1 they have plenty to covert to K2. Fats? Some of the healthiest and longest lived populations ate less than 10% of calories from fat, and while there is some reason to believe vegans should maybe take a vegan EPA/DHA supplement, many omnivores are low and that and need B12 supplementation too.
But Olivier asked a sincere question: he's right Greger doesn't address often the possibility that eating animal foods might be beneficial 3-10 times a month--and it might be helpful even for some people even who eat a well-balanced vegan diet otherwise. There's just not much research that is that nuanced to provide fodder for videos and podcasts.
" Humans have eaten animal food throughout all human history in every part of the world and in prehistoric times as well." Humans have also eaten plants throughout our history and they have often been the main source of calories and nutrients--including for some remaining hunter-gatherer tribes.
@@rockysmitt Isn't vitamin D something the body makes from sunlight? Isn't it B12 and iron which cause deficiency health issues in vegetarians?
Have high-powered (larger sample) studies of ketogenic diets in nutrition wards been done? That’s what I’d want to base my decisions on-not one study with way less than 50 participants per condition.
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I used to be low fat vegan but plateaued in insulin resistance improvement. I went to vegan keto because the fat burning vs glucose burning made allot of sense to me and the only difference between keto vegan and what Dr Greger and the Forks Over Knives group of Doctors espouse is keto vegan increases the good fats such as coconut oil, avocados, nuts and seeds instead of starchy veges such as potatoes, rice, corn, wheat etc. So we're no that far apart. I also stay away from most fruits other than limes and do several low glycemic berries such as blueberries, blackberries and strawberries.
I have lost more weight, lowered blood sugar and have more energy than as a non keto vegan. My weight loss alone seems to contradict the 17 man study referred to in this video. This video assumes that by eating more fats, one would increase total calories and negate the fats burned which hasn't been the case. For me there is a loss of craving for more carbs and I actually eat less calories. The other thing that drew me to keto vegan is that of the three macros, carbs is the only macro that humans do not need at all. It doesn't make sense to me to up the starchy plant carbs in the face of that fact and the blood sugar spikes I get from them.
You said "This video assumes that by eating more fats, one would increase total calories and negate the fats burned which hasn't been the case."
No it doesn't. The study was designed so that both diets had the same calories. That was the point of the study. See 2:58
Did you actually watch the video?
If you are not fat adapted, then you can’t expect to lose fat on a ketogenic diet. It takes weeks to months to get fat adapted. In this study, they started out by getting the patients to be insulin resistant and then switching to low carb diet thus setting them up for failure in the short term.
The ketogenic diet does not work on a short term basis if you are not fat adapted. Eventually you would begin consuming less fat because you would be burning more of your own fat.
Exactly and by the end of the study the low carb patients weren't eating low carb
The problem everyone is looking for a miracle and there isn't one; lowering calories works, vegan works, lowering carbs works, intermittent fasting works. If you change the way you eat you will see results because the body is adjusting to the change. Personally as a vegetarian I believe that lowering carbs works because it worked for me. As a vegetarian we get in the habit of eating a lot of grains, pastas, etc... This can make vegetarians gain weight. In the low carb diet I ate a lot of fresh veggies ditched the rice, pasta, bread, sugar and upped my fats from avocados, grass fed butter, some nuts but didn't over do it. I also increased my exercise and did intermittent fasting (I didn't eat at night)This was something I could do as a new lifestyle not just short term. My suggestion is: stop looking for a miracle and put in the effort to change what made you unhealthy to begin with. Make sure that you go to the Dr on a regular basis to make sure you are on the right track for your body.
If you are vegetarian for concern for animal wellbeing, and not wanting to participate in needless animal death, then you should also be aware that millions of baby male chicks and calves are killed in the egg and dairy industry, and all animals in those industries end up in the slaughterhouse hanging upside down choking on their own blood as they die. Choosing plant milk instead of dairy milk is such an easy thing to do. There are nice vegan cheese like Violife Cheddar. Ben and Jerry's have nice vegan ice cream. Even though processed vegan foods aren't the most healthy, if you do want to treat yourself and enjoy some of those products, they are most definitely healthier than animal products. I have a "Dairy" playlist on my channel playlists if you are interested to learn more of the health risks with dairy.
@@ethicalrevolution3294 Agreed. I don't want to shame people for only being vegetarian, as any step towards more veg positivity should be welcomed by the community. But citing ethical reasons and only being vegetarian does suggest perhaps some incomplete info.
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Keto has made me healthier.
10 years on high carb, low fat, not oil. Still waiting to gain weight. I am lean as f..k and I eat tons of carbs daily with little to not exercise. Same my family on the same lifestyle. My cousins on the other end eating only animal products, cheese and eggs are fat and obese. They always look at me with envy but nobody wants to switch to my eating habits.
cant fix stupid bro, plant power !!!
At last the truth is out hope it saves life’s 👍👍👍
*BURN* keto *BURN*
so many people need to see this 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank you for pointing these things out. The way I have heard it explained to me, is that you have to add or decrease the amount of dietary fat in order to promote greater or lesser body fat composition. When in nutritional ketosis, once your ketogenic fatty meals are used up for energy, the body switches to burning its own fat stores for fuel between meals or during fasting periods, while lean muscle, in theory, is preserved by the proper moderate amount of protein intake. I find that you have to drink a lot of water to make up for the increased fluid and electrolyte loss on keto. But does keto reduce inflammation and therefore ease symptoms of inflammatory diseases and the growth of certain glucose-dependent cancers, as so many people attest? Listening to you.
Peter Kuskis all cells run on glucose, not just cancer cells.
Check out the previous video he uploaded on keto last week. :)
Inflammation might go down because people cut out refined sugar, some preservatives, refined grains, dairy and certain refined oils. However you can eat a plantbased diet without all of those! :)
On keto you deplete your muscle glycogen stores. (Water + stored sugar that can be turned into energy fast)
Drinking water won’t resolve that when you don’t eat carbohydrates.
There are so many options to burn bodyfat. The most important thing is a caloric deficit. There are just more and less nutritious ways to get there.
Quack Watch Brah, shut up if you don’t know what I eat, or risking sounding like an abusive anonymous idiot. I haven’t eaten processed, or sugary foods in years. I meant the difference between healthy high carbs, as in a healthy whole food vegan, even, and low carbs-even plant-based, non-starchy, low carbs like all cruciferous vegetables (as one typically eats doing keto).
Lander Hendrickx I meant heathy carbs not crappy sugar-everybody knows that. I saw last week’s video and will take it into consideration. All kinds of people are treating cancer out there with keto and apparently getting excellent results-that needs to be explained!
Quack Watch I gather you know nothing of the work being done in the area of metabolic therapy by all kinds of practitioners getting real world results in terms of reversing cancer. Your ignorance is on full display, anonymous loser.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6375425/#!po=1.78571
I currently do keto. I’ve done vegan in the past. The keto diet by far has helped me lose more weight, inched off the midsection, improved energy and concentration. But I believe there is a place for plant based too. So if the ancient ancestors were exposed to four seasons, there would be times where fruit and vegetables were plentiful and available for eating like the spring and summer and not in the fall and winter. Meat and fish is available all year round. So I think the ancestors ate both. What they didn’t eat in comparison to today is processed food and sugar. This is a commonality between meat based and plant based diets, the elimination of processed foods with multiple and chemical ingredients in it and sugary foods. On keto I can still enjoy some veggies and delicious berries while enjoying fish, steak, bacon, and eggs. It’s working for me, labs are great, I feel great. I respect plant based diets and not bashing it. I had decent results with it but for me keto has been better.
@@markwiener1091 yes I think location is / was a big factor in diet. People in arctic climates wouldn’t have access to the fruits and vegetables in Central America. And I still believe the processed food is bad all the way around especially if eaten all the time. I’ve heard of drinking ox blood.
Keto worked for me. Never felt better. Lost 50 pounds; Currently on Zero medication. Feel more energetic; I don’t feel satisfied eating only Plant based food. I don’t eat lots of fat, eat fish, eggs, meat; but eat a lot of vegetables. Ketogenic diet is being demonised; no need to eat tons of fat. Eating low carb with lots of vegetables and occasional fruit is good; i am keeping my optimal weight even after 3 years.
@@arifaahamed7239 nobody cares what any of you do
Keto: when your gallbladder is working well and you’re unhappy with that.
Carbage Man
The gastrointestinal physician I saw told me the keto diet is a quick way to screw up your gallbladder. Diet plays a huge part in the health of that organ.
Carbage Man
So the National Institutes of Health is wrong also?
Carbage Man - Sure, the most common surgical procedure among U.S. women, I.e. the highest female BMI population on earth, is due to low fat consumption. Makes perfect sense.
@@CarbageMan The increase in obesity isn't because of a spike in cruciferous vegetable consumption either. Unless you're unscientifically lumping all carbs together, as Dr. Berg and others have done in an intellectually dishonest manner. There's a big difference between steel cut oats and refined sugar, but you wouldn't know it from reading your comment.
@@CantEscapeFlorida Talking about refined sugar is irrelevant to eating a whole food plant-based diet, though, just as refined oils is irrelevant as a criticism of the paleo diet. So what's your point?
I've lost weight on Keto. I also practiced Intermittent Fasting.
It is already known in low-carb practice that water weight is lost in the first 1 to 2 weeks, BUT, after that, fat loss takes place. It is already known that excessive dietary fat can stall weight loss, BUT, knowledgeable scientists and doctors will tell you to increase protein instead of fat when this occurs. It is already known that muscle mass loss occurs during initial fat adaptation, BUT after that occurs, great strength gains can be made.
Good job focusing on one study from years ago. The reason people do keto is that they see it work in others.
Eating more protein will also increases your insuline-levels, resulting in no more weigtloss. So not the smartest move ;) So stay away from proteinshakes unless you have a ridiculous work out schedule.
markshfr1 yes because a fad diet with complications such as heart arrhythmias, cardiac contractile function impairment, sudden death, osteoporosis, kidney damage, increased cancer risk, impairment of physical activity, increases all cause mortality and lipid abnormalities is a diet worth considering let alone following. Also, the ethics of consuming animals should not be off the table as well.
@@aciditywormhole9898 source please
markshfr1 of course. All these studies are peer reviewed and if you’d like to debunk them I’ll provide the information on how to. So to analyze a study see who wrote it, see if they have any background in that specific field, what’s the journals impact factor, is it in a peer reviewed journal, was the study done and analyzed correctly, is the paper consistent with other studies, who funded it and if there were any conflict of interest sources.
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@@aciditywormhole9898 It's easy to find studies which conclude what I want to
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25178568.
But when it comes to ethics, that is the real concern here, isn't it?
Share this to every piece of social media you have. Even though this is already public information, that effectiveness of the way Dr. Gregor explains this can be groundbreaking to the laymen. Sometimes effective communication is all that's needed
keto is great to get a reset after decades of damage done . for example to fix insulin resistance due to years of overeating and binging sugar .
weight loss is a bonus .
Keto makes insulin resistance much worse.
@@ethelchip3620 Lmao my fasting insulin has reduced by 28% in three months doing keto, and my fasting glucose has dropped from 101 to 86 in that same time frame. You don't know anything about insulin if you think a low-carb, high-fat diet makes insulin resistance worse. There are plenty of other things up for debate such as heart health, but it is irrefutable that keto helps insulin resistance and reverses type 2 diabetes when done properly, cleanly, and especially when mixed with intermittent fasting.
@Kevin yeah it seems like there’s a ton of research linking saturated fat consumption to insulin resistance. Google it for yourself. Keto diets are typically high in saturated fat.
The studies showing benefits are just short term because of weight loss.
Gosh this guy makes me so happy
2:50 he says 5% of calories came from carbohydrates... In a 2,000 Cal diet 5% is 100g of sugar!!!
To start ketosis your limit is 20g and 50g if you exercise... So these people were not on ketosis.
@@Ramiromasters a gram of carbs is 4kcals, so 5% of 2000kcals would be 100kcals of carbs, but only 25g.
@@Jalfred92 Yeah I corrected that later, still people have to keep in mind that 20g is the limit for a person that has been on carbs all their lives and its a daily limit, can't eat it all that at once... Eating more than 20g of carbs will result in catabolism where protein its turn into sugar and muscle lost. Which is what happen here... Also frequent eating messes up ketosis by spiking insulin, high insulin no ketosis.
I was on the keto diet for 10 months we went on vacation and I went off of the diet for the past 2 months What I learned while I was on the keto diet is my health improved quickly to the point where I had to lower my meds in the first 2 month blood pressure medications and diabetic meds I lost 55lbs in the first 3months which was great but at the same time freaked me out so I maintained that weight for the next 3 months then I lost anothe 20lbs over the last 4 months also while on the keto diet my choleterol levels got normal and my triglycerides dropped from 290 down to 160 when I went on vacation in July and started to eat a high carb diet all my cholesterol levels went back to where they were the previous year before I started the keto diet plus my a1c levels went up from 4.3 to 5.0 A1C levels are a measure of sugar in the blood 5.0 is still a good number but my cholesterol and triglycerides went back to the unhealthy levels. So needless to say at the beginning of September I went back on the keto diet. I am doing the keto diet for health reasons as well as losing weight and I don't buy any of their products except nutrition yeast which I happen to like on my daily salad. You guys can bash this diet any way you like I tried all the other diets the diabetic diet the heart association diet the diets the doctors told to follow and none of these worked but I got healthy on the keto diet and that's all that matters to me.