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Need to support vegan diet? Bring out a dozen ethically conducted, controlled, double-blind, etc studies. Need to take down keto? Let's form our understanding this single study with ethical issues - funded by a company that embezzled funds. Yeah, that's great form, Michael Greger. Well done. Truly a great, objective, unbiased source of info on dietary topics.
Eduardo Campos A whole food, plant-based vegan diet rich in whole grains, fruits, vegetables, legumes, etc. All the protein you need to build muscles comes from plants, which also has fiber, phytonutrients, antioxidants, and other good stuff. You also have the added side effect of saving animals and going easy on the environment! I failed at going vegan the first time around because I gave in to the keto narrative that starches made me fat. Now, I love my rice, potatoes, and beans while working out every day in my slimmer body!
@@wofferful Absolutely. Have a look at any of these guys, their websites sell very expensive supplements that are needed to go with these great diets for some reason.
No one named anything. Ketosis is a state of metabolism and we have always had this metabolism since we became humans. Some people feel theyre not human.
My mom started the keto diet over a year ago to lose weight and help control her type 2 diabetes. She succeeded in those two objectives, but suffered a stroke last month. I have not heard anyone mention her stroke as being diet related, but everything I’ve ever heard about nutrition makes me believe it was. More and more friends of mine are going keto. I hate to be the sanctimonious vegan, but I genuinely worry for their health.
Joanna....so sorry for your loss. I do not think diet played a role in her stroke. Stroke is a broken blood vessel, many times from high blood pressure. I would blame her history of diabetes rather then a change in diet. Again, so sorry.
@@logangaddy Thank you. That these people don't know that vascular congestion affects the brain as it does the area around the heart is galling! Maybe they don't know there are blood vessels up there?
Thank you Doctor. I am so very thankful I found your website and heard about a plant-based lifestyle after my heart attack 4 years ago, at age 61. I’ve never felt better. ♥️
Red Pill Vegan: Standard American Diet....red meat, lots of burgers, very few veggies or fruits really, chicken dishes. LOTs of cheese on everything, casseroles, fast food, sugary desserts, etc. All for years. Had to have 2 stents put in. Sure was a big wake-up call.
K H glad you’re feeling and doing well. May I ask, what blood thinner were you on, and how long did you take it? Were you able to come off of it after a year which is normally recommended?
MORBUENO GROUP Hi. I stayed on my blood thinner for 2 years I think. It was a generic Plavix. I was not as compliant the 1st year as I should have been. But have since done well.
K H thank you for the reply. I was asking for my father who just went what you went thru and now I’m helping him find healthier avenues to help in his recuperation. I think if he stays compliant with a WFPBD he may be able to wing himself off the placid after the year which his doctor said he will need to stay on.
Of course carbs are fatning, I realized 30 years ago while travelling around East Asia that rice and veg eating people were morbidly fat and Americans so trim that you could walk all day amongst thousands and thousands of people and not see one single fat person. Total common sense.
Hong Kong has the highest meat consumption per capita in the world, and also the highest average life expectancy in the world. It's the ultimate Blue Zone. Don't take my word for it, look it up, it's an easy fact to check... Kinda shoots a big old hole in your sarcastic comment...
@@NickFoxer Unfortunately that doesn't mean much in the context of degerative disease. Most people in Hong Kong suffer degenerative disease for 5-10 yrs prior to death. Unlike Okinawa /Sardinia etc where they are active up until 1-2 months before death.
Americans eat far more carbs than East Asians, who actually eat a diet high in meat and seafood. A bowl of rice is a lot less carbs than a twelve-inch 'personal' pizza. Also vastly more fructose in the American diet, which is why people on the SAD are prone to developing diabetes and fatty liver disease.
Jason Fung tho. The study was biased by vegans tho. Twitter tho. The people's ketones were biased by Vegetable intake (known carcinogen) tho. They were not fasted 18/6 tho. They were still addicted to carbs tho. Soy.
The researchers didn’t blend high quality grass-fed butter into their coffee tho. The fat in the coffee really gets the brain working and ramps up the fat burning. Flawed study.
The state of ketosis is officially dead thanks to you. Humanity will from henceforth only burn glucose for energy. As your next trick, could you make snow illegal?
After being vegan / vegetarian for over 45 years I got in the car wreck. The drugs disrupted my digestive system and a year later I went on a ketogenic diet for 2 years. I was diagnosed with several autoimmune disorders and was on five or six different drugs including Humira Remicade steroids and painkillers. Keto got me off all of these drugs and back to normal and now I'm half vegan half Keto. You don't know anything when you say debunk a keto diet until you actually get sick and have to use one to save your life.
@@KeyofDavid5778 amen! Sometimes you have to explain to the vegans that there's a thing called autoimmune disease (maybe they've heard of it, maybe they haven't) and some people who have it (like me) are actually worse off doing the vegan diet. The whole grains and legumes are actually more inflammatory and disrupt the gut more than they are good. Switching to keto (keto done the right way which is a whole food diet that includes a steady stream of veggies and leafy greens along with wild caught salmon wild caught chunk light tuna 100% grass fed and finished beef pasture raised chicken and eggs nuts seeds coconut oil mct oil avocado oil ... Etc.) Is actually the healthiest route for them. I know, I've done both whole food diets and have better results with clean keto than vegan. Better results as measured through blood tests, best blood pressure in my life, best cardiac throughput while exercising (I.e. significant reduction in peek exercise pulse rate), coronary artery calcium score of 0 (at age 45). Also some people don't switch to keto just to lose weight (that's something I don't need to do) but rather it's the healthiest way for them as verified by their own measurable tests/results.
@@KeyofDavid5778 oh man, so sorry for you! do you do vegan keto or half/half in an other way? because I guess you can do any diet in a wrong way, but also in a better way. if you don't know her, check our "TheVeggieMD" on Twitter/IG, she did a vegan Keto challenge for 2 weeks, and gives a lot of insights, ressources, facts, research etc. :)
@goggles789 I don't, I have read many of the studies myself and have experienced with my own body. Have you tried a whole-foods, plant-based diet for yourself? no sure, 17 men is not the hardest evidence ever, but show me one randomised controlled trial with hundreds of people showing that a keto (or for that matter high fat, low whole grain) diet is healthy long term...
This horrible garbage killed my mom. She was influenced to try keto by that article, and died of a massive heart attack. She had been eating plant-based some years prior and was doing well, then all of the "butter is good" misleading information was all over the place, so she decided to try "keto".
Ok, so I was sceptical about this video and just to see if I could 'trust' it I headed quickly over to the sources. Half of them were from 2002 (interesting) and I clicked on a more recent one, the one where Dr. Greger mentions that keto crossfiters lost muscle mass. Just reading this abstract you can already tell Dr. Greger just picks out what he wants from these studies, isolates it and uses it for his point. The end of the abstract states: 'While our n-sizes were limited [my add: control group n=5, keto dieters n=7 btw], these preliminary data suggest that adopting a ketogenic diet causes marked reductions in whole-body adiposity while not impacting performance measures in recreationally-trained CrossFit trainees. Whether decrements in dual-leg muscle mass and vastus lateralis thickness in KD participants were due to fluid shifts remain unresolved, and increased LDL-C in these individuals warrants further investigation.' So to summarize: Keto dieters lost weight, didn't have lower performance, no data on if actually lean body mass was lost or just fluid shifts, and some controversial blood markers shifted to warrant further investigation. But all Dr. Greger takes from this is "keto dieters are losing lean body mass from this diet". Tell me this is not wilfully deceiving by Dr. Greger. So much for your 'NutritionFacts'. I assume the rest of his points are equally cherry picked, isolated and overstated. If you want to be taken seriously you should never be caught obviously deceiving like this. And this was literally the first thing I picked out to look further into and right away found this discrepancy. Honest mistakes are one thing, but it is obvious this guy presents all this stuff only to fit what he wants to be true. I'll stick to thinking for myself.
Reading these comments is depressing, people need to step away from tribal “us vs them” mentalities when discussing science and something as important as the health of billions of people. I would like to point out that the Am J Clin Nut 2016 study is far too small to draw any major conclusions from, it was just a pilot study. It does strongly support calorie restriction for overall fat loss though - which isn’t news, but keto and fasting supporters know how easy calorie restriction is on a low carb diet.
Simpletons will always have that mentality. It’s really unfortunate. This is why society is constantly fighting with each other & why we still have money.
Yes, but which is the priority? Not everyone with high cholesterol gets CAD, and not everyone with low cholesterol is protected from it. Yet just about everyone who is obese is suffering in one way or another.
@Bruce Leroy Dr. Greger read this, as you and I can. He's never ran, been part of a clinical practice of weight loss, or any other that we know of. He's a researcher. I personally am against the keto diet, and have kept in shape for decades the old fashion way, good diet and exercise, but the science still isn't clear. So many are reporting large amounts of weight loss, reversal of diabetes, off blood pressure meds, etc., and we still don't know why. You can't just loose 40, 50, 60 or more pounds of "muscle and water." All we have are bits and pieces of the "science." I personally know of a man who lost nearly 100 pounds. We can all speculate as to it could have this, or it could have been that, but that's not good enough. To convince a formerly obese man on 6 different meds, now taking none, who's lost 100 lbs that what he's doing is wrong with a 6 minute video just doesn't cut it. Obesity is a very complex and not yet fully understood symptom, and varies greatly from person to person. Keto is as popular as vegan these days, and not because people like to eat fat.
You're making the same mistake as many keto proponents: to blindly assume what you think is correct. Better keep an open mind. I hope Dr. Greger also will explain other downsides of keto, like possible gut flora defecation (?) or other process in the body that are hampered..
There's just too much success stories from people doing keto. And I mean, clean keto. I think you forget that. Hype all you want vegans, the only real reason you don't like keto is because it's almost impossible to bring carbs down on a vegan diet.
@@CantEscapeFlorida So you think the biased people who paid 40 million for a study didn't do whatever they could to make it look positive towards their bias? Indirectly claiming that the body's energy exependure would change after more time just proves that you have no idea what you're talking about. There is a reason why the study didn't need to continue and even the biased called it a closed case - maybe you should spend time studying biology instead of advertising ignorance online.
@@pfwinbar Humans started eating dead rotting animal bodies millions of years before they started eating genetically engineered modern apples my friend, and you wouldn't be here if your ancestors (even your close ancestors) didn't bust their ass to hunt animals. Doesn't matter how bad you want to make it sound, our digestive tract is very well designed for meat consumption. It takes more time to digest animal foods because our body absorb more out of it.
@@byReZio Yes and they were also eating lot of cooked tubercules, highly available in Africa. I begin to think more and more than both keto and plant based are wrong. High carb low glycemic index, high animal protein is maybe more close to what our ancestors ate every day.
I was a healthy man of 45 years, and was stupid enough to do a keto diet, for 2 years. The outcome was: gained weight, high cholesterol, very bad mood, muscle cramps and finally heart arrythmia which led to a stroke. Now, since 2 years I am more or less on Dr Gregers way of eating, and all shitty keto symptoms gone. I would really like to sue them keto charlatans one day!
When someone tells me that on their ketogenic diet all they eat is bacon, egg , steak, and cheese I know right away that it is an idiotic diet. Of course, I understand that Intermittent fasting and restricting carbs on some days (something like carb fasting day) can help with diabetes. But I don't support a full keto.
So why does it work? I'm not saying you're wrong or that your research isn't on point but literally everyone I know who has tried the ketogenic diet has lost significant weight, become healthier (I can only verify myself in this claim) and kept the weight off? I went from 240 to 145lb and ended up becoming a semi pro (cat 3) crit racer all while on vegetarian keto, I almost never get sick and my blood panels I get done regularly for cycling are as perfect as they can be. My roommate went from 360 and is now at 240. My coworker went from 250 to 180 now. My cousin has lost 30lbs in 3 months. Then there's literally thousands of people on Reddit or other social media reporting the same success. How am I supposed to look at all that clear evidence that takes 0 research to see and buy into this video? The other thing is that you're getting the reason for keto wrong. Yes people talk about more fat burning but that's not the point. The point is appetite suppression and increased energy. You also don't shovel down fat because you're not eating carbs, because of the suppression of appetite you don't eat as much until you get down to a low BMI like me where I do need to increase my fat intake to maintain weight. But on the weight loss journey I was easily able to just slip right into intermittent fasting. Then there's piles of research that say the opposite of what your and your research claim. So in a topic even researchers can't agree on I'll go with what I've seen.
@UCan't Fool Me Always follow the paper trail. I do find that most videos against keto have a vegan bias. This is ridiculous because I'm a pescatarian who doesn't eat dairy myself and the majority (at least 95%) of my diet is entirely plant-based. Literally the only thing I eat that isn't vegan is Fish, honey, and insects. I only have Fish maybe twice a month. I do Keto incredibly easy on a plant-based diet even without the fish. So this vegan war on keto is unfounded.
whatever a keto diet can do for health and weight loss, a whole foods vegan diet can do it better. so this whole conversation is clearly pointless. Fat people losing weight proves very little.
@Dan M7 Diabetes improves with weight loss. There is no data that suggest keto improves insulin sensitivity without weightloss. Quite the opposite, insulin sensitivity decreases during keto [1], if you do not believe that make a OGTT on a keto diet. But when you feed people a high carb high fiber diet, force them to eat so much so they do not lse weight, their insulin sensitivity improves so much that they have lower blood sugar despite the higher carb intake [2]. We also have studies showing that people on low carb diets get more diabetes, and that people that eat more whole grains or fruits, which are both high carb foods, have less diabetes and people that eat more meat or eggs have more diabetes, both foods that many keto gurus eat a lot [3]. "How can you possible in your right mind say Keto does not work?" Because we didn't see studies supporting your claims. There are some diseases like epilepsy, some form of cancer and depression that can be treated with keto. But definitely not type 2 diabetes and also not the other diseases you mention, it also has some very bad side effects and the keto community does not talk a lot about the risk of keto. If you disagree show some scientific evidence. "There is undeniable evidence that it works," If there is so much evidence, then why did you not link a single study proving your claims? "works amazingly well for people who’ve failed on vegan diets." What has veganism to do with diet? You can eat a vegan keto diet. "This is why people think vegans are crazy. Just accept that meat and Keto is healing people." Yes, extremely crazy. Just show us evidence for your claims. Can you please define what you mean with "designed to be herbivores"? Herbivore is not a very precise term. "That’s why you cannot eat grass or leaves off trees without getting extremely ill," Nobody suggest we should do that. We are designed to eat starches, we have many more genes to create amylase than chimps do which we use to break down starch [4]. "to many beans and lentils." Do you have studies showing that legumes are unhealthy for the general population? Systematic reviews show the opposite [5]. "To much fructose is toxic to the liver." Do you now mix up refined sugar with whole fruit? Do you have studies showing whole fruit is bad for the liver? "Common sense dictates that we’re not designed to be vegan." Should we now listen to the common sense of a guy that does not cite any evidence for his claims or should we listen to scientific evidence such as systematic reviews? [1-5] Links in a separate reply, because TH-cam can shadow censor some comments with links.
Yep the thousands of people who loss hundreds of pounds are wrong. The fact that those people are no longer obese means nothing...they should all be vegans...my aunt and uncle were type 2 diabetics since starting Keto 2 years ago they not only loss 80 and 110 pounds but they are no longer diabetics. But hey let's tell them to go vegan right?...we are all different. BTW here is a study that states the opposite of your cherry picked study. The keto group saw an increase in lean body mass... www.google.com/amp/s/www.boxrox.com/the-ketogenic-diet-and-crossfit-performance/amp/
What does the Keto do to your heart, liver, kidneys and the rest of your stomach’s dedicated followers? In the last 14 years that I switched to vegetarian my cancer tumours just faded away, whereas my younger brother has been on and Atkins now even longer and has had, amongst other things, to have his heart stopped and restarted twice, and in the last year has had to wear a walk around monitor several times. Now this is only anecdotal, but I will add that I saw my grandfather, my father, and my two older brothers also succumb to cancer. Which is why it’s not just anecdotal to me.
So you are trying to tell me your family only follows the extremes of eating, either vegetarian= you, or the rest= atkins. I call bullshit. Stop with the hyperbole.
I’m no expert, but I know it is misleading to point out the loss in muscle mass. From my understanding, this loss is a temporary reduction in glycogen stores and water mass in the muscles. It’s not a loss of actual muscle fibers.
@@megavegan5791 That's probably extremely accurate, I realize that. I'm only calling into question the assumptions of his evaluation of the experiment. Does lower muscle mass truly mean that strength has been permanently lost? This, and the other point people have been bringing up in the comments, that ketosis takes a while to start up on a keto diet, leaves me still unable to rule out the keto diet as a potentially healthy option.
@@lockhrt999 Show me your studies showing that Eskimos have a superior life expectancy without any disease. Also please provide evidence that they are in a state of constant ketosis. Thanks
Excellent video. Kevin Bass is also doing a thorough debunk of low-carb claims on his website at "Nutritional Revolution". The only reason people lose weight on Keto is because they cut calories. It's really that simple. And.. it doesn't work for many people too. I wish they weren't so zealous about it. Lots of former low-carbers have moved on to more reasonable approaches to weight loss that works for them.
I love Kevin Bass, but I eat exclusively bacon and butter, and i eat SO MUCH ribeye, 6-7lbs at a time, and I reversed stage 8 cancer and lost 187 lbs, and also cured my depression and skin issues! No case study was written, just this comment. Kevin Bass must be biased!
It's easier to cut calories when fat is high, proteins adequate and simple carbs are low. The low carb diet keeps blood glucose stable. It works for me.
Tine P - There would be no arguments if the Keto experts would just say ‘Keto keeps you satiated longer, which helps you lower your caloric intake and lose weight’. No, they have to go down the road of ‘carbs make you fat’ and ‘cholesterol doesn’t cause heart disease.’
I´ve got so sick on one month ketogenic diet, and ruined my health ,recovery lasted me a year or so..I was using the best virgin oils,organic nuts and seeds,as much greens as I could fit into low carb intake, didnt lose any weight except water weight first week..Would not recommend to anyone.
Funny to think how i started out as a vegan about 4 years ago (nolonger) to now I can not stand videos about diet or food. This video was in my suggestion and I immediately felt irritated. I’m so sick of the contractions around it’s and food , who’s right, who’s wrong that i literally gave up being a vegan. It’s literally too much. Who knew eating could become so dam complicated
I'm not a vegan but I would also be interested, most of the bad stuff about the keto diet is the bad fats, but 18/6 hour fasting on a vegan diet might have interesting benefits.
For all the Keto PhDs in the comments arguing that the study participants weren't given enough time to get into ketosis, you should know that they tested for respiratory quotient; all the participants were 'fat-adapted' after the 1st week of switching to the keto phase of the study.
You know, I'm not a vegetarian/vegan, and I have a lot (far too many) of friends on the keto diet. They all want me to join 'cause it's so great... and in some ways I feel like go ahead it's your body, but it's always looked like an eating disorder to me. Hopefully some keep doing research from sources other than their favorite circles. I like 'Eat whole foods, not too much, mostly vegetables'. Just makes more sense to me. Thanks for the video.
That's exactly what the ketogenic lifestyle is. You just described it. 8 cups of vegetables a day, less than 50 carbs, the rest fat and low-moderate protein. That's the cleanest you can get. No one is telling you to chug down oil and eat cheeseburgers 3 meals a day.
@@mikelattens3180 you mean dead animals and liquids from their body, why not call it for what it is? I also say I'm eating rice and beans, I don't say I'm eating "carbs".
@@ImprovingAbility Your argument of "dead animals and liquids" is something that every vegan throws their virtual flag upon, claiming victory. What is all that you consume made out of? Dead plant material. If you want to take the moral high ground, consider first taking a look at what allows for the sustenance of 8 billion people on this planet. Everything you consume, unless you are composting and growing EVERYTHING at your own ability, is made out of the remnants of animal tissue, fat - carcasses in general. As for why not calling it for what it is: I personally consume (at least) 80% of my intake from plant-based sources such as MCT oil, olive oil, 6+ cups of vegetables a day, DHA/EPA from algae, low-glycemic fruits and my fair share of almond milks, coconut milks, and their respective flours. Find a better argument. Would you say the equivalent to Inuit tribes that live in the far North America parts of the world that also happen to consume 80%+ of their food through "dead animals and liquids"? I wonder what they would eat if they got on the same high horse that you sit upon.
Lewis Blanchard they give animals all those supplements as well. Fortified food takes care if those no problem. While not clogging your arteries or causing diabetes
Jones - exactly! 👏🤡I love when he “puts it to the test” AKA, gives us his opinion on the matter! 🥼🤡(he doesn’t ever “test” anything, which is actually quite brilliant! just GIVE us the clarity, and move on!)
@@charathcutestory he gave his opinion on nothing, he literally just read straight test results and data from actual studies, which is a lot more credible than using clown emojis to get his point across 🤡🤡
Sorry, Doctor, but I stopped eating carbs and started eating lots of saturated fats, and guess what? I lost heaps of body fat. I gave up my vegan diet, which had kept me obese for years. Also, as a T2 diabetic, I now have the HbA1c percentage of a non-diabetic.
BOOM! This is 24K Solid Gold, could not wait to share it with all my friends who think Keto is the way because they have been misled by those trying to profit from it.
@@cytwc I'm most interested in the long term consequences of not secreting adequate insulin as the evidence I've seen shows it's as damaging as having raised/high spikes all the time. Keto is basically a starvation diet because long term it completely tanks your metabolism so you end up eating only several hundred cals a day just to not get fat.
@Youarewhatyoueat Smoking too has been around for 1000s of years.. I love that appeal to the past argument. Are you seriously suggesting we are of similar intelligence to humans 1000s of years ago who knew nothing whatsoever & lived lifespans half as long as ours?
Of course that was a stupid study. 4 weeks only? That's just foolish. But the real issue is looking at weight loss at all. A keto diet is about the correct fuel to heal damaged cells. Weight loss is a positive side benefit once the inflammation is down, and organs are healed. Keto is not "highest fat," it is supposed to be fat appropriate for your activity level. Fat can go up and down, with protein sparing. Yes, carbs stay low. 4 weeks though, is not sensible. People are sick, it takes months to years to see health improve. "Forced into fat burning," is very misleading to say. We are lucky the human body can switch back and forth, however, burning carbs and alcohol are first priority because of the damage they do to the body. As we all know, each of us has a different level of damage tolerance. There are so many better keto studies out there. Let's see what you mention in the next episode.
Yes, I'd love to see those two butt heads. I also trust Dr. Greger more, as Dr. Berg typically does not back up what he's saying about the dangers of eating grains/carbs with scientific data as Dr. Greger does.
After years of passive silence , Dr. Greger has gone head first on Keto. I'm glad he's made videos on correcting people and educating them on this keto fad ! Officially through the videos, specifically!!!!!
Fad? They have been studying Keto for double the time of veganism. Yet another muppet that only listens to the preacher rather than studying what is said.
@@takeoffyourblinkers then explain what's wrong with the way he explains this video? Use evidence to support your claims. There are heaps of evidence that prove increase of fat causes increase in all cause mortality. Must I link?
@@jannlucilleloncio2739 Keto involves consuming fats at large. Almost all antioxidants and cancer preventive compounds are from plants. Losing weight does not equate to being healthy just by that analogy. Fasting can grant you more benefits and you can still lose weight with plenty of AMPK activity and inhibition of NF-κβ and TNF-α. I'm not saying on what should you be eating and what not. I expressed what I felt like. You lost weight because your Apo-E gene facilitated it. Those with slight modifications in that gene can bring serious consequences to you if you're either on just high carb or high fat diets. Plant based diets are safe. There's a great video on TH-cam by some Dr. On Apo-E and has a book by that same term. All the best.
@@jannlucilleloncio2739 I just don't you why did you come here and comment on my thread and ask me silly questions and then say if it suits me then I should have it. I didn't ask you to troll me, can you get a grip of your life ?
For the record on Gary Taubes: Gary Taubes set up a million dollar research to prove his theories on fat. It was hilarious because the end results were the scientific evidence concluded that his theory on fat was wrong. But then Gary Taubes blamed the scientists (that he hired) that they did the research wrong. REFERENCES: Out of Gary Taubes' own mouth himself on the Joe Rogan Debate: Joe Rogan Experience #1267 - Gary Taubes & Stephan Guyenet
A.I. - Vegan doctors are MUCH smarter than him, especially when they use the refrain “intra-myocellar-lipids”! after they say that term, the debate is over and the vegans have won!
It's hilarious 😂. Oh Gary... How can you be upset about & blame the methods used in a study, when you're the one who approved those methods to begin with?
@@sonja4164 Hey, at least we have a million dollar independent unbiased research from Gary Taubes. He hired the Scientists himself to prevent biased research. He then gave the tick of approval to go ahead with the research. And then he was proven wrong. Thank you Gary :)
Of course the latest piece of research does actually support Gary's thesus , but that was when a real scientist LUSTIG as opposed to Hall did it . Oops
@@amandaatkins4771 but how exactly did he do it? Is it even reliable to believe? Did he figure out a way to fake it? At the end of the day its still likely a biased study
It should be noted, however, that Johns Hopkins University did find that the ketogenic diet was amazingly good for people suffering from severe epilepsy. That doesn't apply to everyone, I know, but it is still worth knowing.
It should be noted that even for epilepsy the keto side effects were horrendous. But when you are between the epileptic rock and the longer term heart disease hard place....
amputation is good for people with gangrene. doesn't apply to everyone, but it is still worth knowing, isn't it? i'm sure it can be used for weight loss somehow
Thank you Dr. Gregor for setting me straight! I have been doing keto for 3 months, and the scale told me I have lost about 30 pounds. But now that I have watched your video, with all of your helpful stats, facts, and words, I realize the scale has lied to me! Keep up the great work. :/
Soy boys hate the keto weight loss revolution, filling the cath lab one success story at a time. Thanks Gary Taubes, brave pioneer of revisionist history and revisionist science journalism.
lol. Yep. They all do at first. The dude at my local health food store just quit keto as he said he saw the same thing happening to him. His fat loss actually slowed and he began to lose muscle.
Like it or not but there is 0% since proving saturated fat is bad. Only some epidemiological studies. So please prove first scientifically but not religiously.
@@AnHeC why is eating what you're made of delusional? We are not made of smoke, we're are mostly fat, protein and water. Get a better comparison next time.
Now I am sure you realize that the Atkins Diet and the Ketogenic diet are 2 different things. Whereas Atkins is protein based, Keto is Fat based. 30 days is really not a long term look nor a good test of the diet. Too many people who have been on keto for more than a year tell a completely different story. Please come with a long term experiment. It's a bit disappointing to see a respected guy like yourself show a misleading experiment based on "science".
I am sorry to disagree here, I am a female in my late 70es who had been on a strict vegan diet for a long time but stopped because it made me sick. I developed joint pain, sagging crepe looking skin which was dry and sallow looking, fatigue, cholesterol going up instead of down, blood glucose shooting up and a general feeling of feeling unwell. I have been on a low carb diet for about 3 months now and haven’t felt that good in a very long time! My joint pain is pretty much gone, my skin has made a dramatic turnaround that even my husband asked me what I was doing! My cholesterol is coming down again and my glucose and A1c are back to normal again. I also don’t look anymore like death warmed over like a lot of vegans do and who just look gaunt, I also no longer believe anything what Mr. Gregor is saying because everyone is different, we are not cookie cutter humans where one mold fits all. Some people will do well on a vegan/vegetarian diet and others like myself do not and to say that a low carb diet will kill you is really dumb because everyone will die one day, nobody will live forever no matter what you eat!!!
Interesting video. It's promoted as a fat loss diet; yet according to this study it's not really a good weight loss option. In a way it shows the body doesn't like being in a fat burning mode for very long.
I have always maintained that ketogenesis is just an evolutionary mechanism by which hominids survived temporary periods of extreme privation of optimal foods. I now think, after looking into vegan keto regimens, where a higher ratio of carbs can be eaten without suspending the ketogenic state, that even in extreme privation, hominids sought out small amounts of optimal foods to supplement their fat based diets until the optimal foods were abundantly available again. We're not built to constantly scavenge fatty tissue off of the carrion of an apex predator.
There has to more to this. So many people are reporting large amounts of weight loss, not just water and muscle, reversing diabetes, lower blood pressure, etc.
@Joseph1NJ A reason why some people appear to do well is that keto may be a great deal healthier than they were previously eating. Compared to the SAD, on keto a person is eating more vegetables ...maybe the most they've ever eaten[!], getting rid of processed food, and probably not overeating. All these things can make a big difference. And if they're healthier, great. However, a key question is what happens long term? While it's true that there are some positive anecdotes, they're generally short term. In all fairness, there are a lot of negative anecdotes as well, where biomarkers got worse, people felt bad, didn't lose weight, etc. Another concern is that a blood work numbers aren't always indicative of presence/ absence of disease. Thin doesn't necessarily equal healthy. I can't remember the %, but a disturbingly high % of people with heart disease don't know until their first heart attack, and a % of those don't survive. That scares me. Personally, I'm mostly vegan [I'll have some cookies or other junk with a small amount of milk or egg]. I feel that plant based is my best bet long term. I'm 50ish, so I don't choose to experiment for years. Be well : )
@@sharit7970 See, that's just it, the "science" is incomplete. I didn't want to speculate as to possible reasons why some do very well, but they're real, they exist, and science does not yet know why. Taubes and the rest are at best providing hypothesis, and he freely admits that. Obesity is a very complex issue. And until we have a better understanding of it, we shouldn't discount people's success. For them, the long struggle has finally provided results.
@@mrblob5413 Satiety is of course a significant factor. Can food act like cocaine? Maybe. Does it stimulate serotonin and dopamine receptors in the same way? And to what extent is that controllable? How does that effect vary from individual to individual. Science does not explain why keto diets provide the satiety some are unable to achieve elsewhere. I say its much more than just will power or discipline. Taubes, a physicist, speculates that insulin, a fat storing hormone among its other functions, plays a key role here. And that metabolically, insulin responds differently in some to high fat/ low carb diets than we thought it did, and its NOT the same for everyone. I say he has touched on just one of many, many factors. I personally would never go keto. But he asks an important scientific question, that is, why. Why does it work? What is it that we've been missing all of these years? Simply repeating the same old dogma from the last half century is no longer good enough. Science must continue to ask why. Just because we believe something to be true doesn't always means it is.
The misinformation campaign is turning up. I say do what give you RESULTS. If Keto is not for you then keep it moving. All I know is that Keto, IF and long term fasting are saving thousands of lives. The food industry, pharmaceutical industry and government are cranking out this to make their money. People will believe what they want regardless of the info.
If I eat all plant/carb based, I lose weight. If I eat all meat/fat based, I lose weight. But I can never combine the 2 on any level. I truly believe the SAD has more to do with excess carbs and excess fat together. Each is diet challenging for me. In the end, I must choose the one that reverses heart disease, but I'm addicted to tri tip sandwiches. This is gonna be difficult no matter what I do.
Carbage Man The gastrointestinal physician I saw told me the keto diet is a quick way to screw up your gallbladder. Diet plays a huge part in the health of that organ.
Carbage Man - Sure, the most common surgical procedure among U.S. women, I.e. the highest female BMI population on earth, is due to low fat consumption. Makes perfect sense.
@@CarbageMan The increase in obesity isn't because of a spike in cruciferous vegetable consumption either. Unless you're unscientifically lumping all carbs together, as Dr. Berg and others have done in an intellectually dishonest manner. There's a big difference between steel cut oats and refined sugar, but you wouldn't know it from reading your comment.
@@CantEscapeFlorida Talking about refined sugar is irrelevant to eating a whole food plant-based diet, though, just as refined oils is irrelevant as a criticism of the paleo diet. So what's your point?
Susana Vegan Adopt a Cat then go after the “industry”. Make the inevitable death of animals more humane. Guess you never watched the secret life of plants documentary. If plants can sense death, what validates your blender mutilating them up?
I've always argued that the keto diet makes no sense. How could totally ignoring a 1/3rd of your macro nutrients, not eating fruits, but eating an unregulated amount of cheese and bacon help you lose weight? Not to mention the fact that the only people who visibly have good results from this are typically bodybuilders who would have visibly positive results from any diet. Any time i've seen an average person try the keto diet they don't lose weight. They do eat a lot of cheese and bacon, though. haha.
Nothing personal to you Alyssa Steven's. It sounds like you do research and know how to regulate a healthy diet in general. But I invite you to open up an app people popularly use for recipes, like Pinterest. Search the term keto. Maybe keto recipes, but nothing else. Count how many recipes include bacon & cheese. Not everyone is as regulated as you. Nothing personal, just the reality of fad diets.
Many iterations of the keto diet do not allow a majority of fruits. I've heard blueberries are ok in some but not others. They also require many restrictions and the clarity on what is 'ok' and 'not ok' are is lacking as a whole. When I say 'average person' I mean someone who does not have the time to commit serious research, as you have. Most who I have known to try the fad diet are working moms. They dont have time to workout. It doesnt work for them. That is who I consider the average person to use the system.
@@CantEscapeFlorida im sorry if you considered my opinion to be a personal attack but there is validity to what I'm saying in a way that applies to others, and I hope you and those who happen to see these comments can understand that. :)
@@CantEscapeFlorida good for you, Alyssa. As I said I'm sure you follow a healthy diet. But that doesnt mean everyone else who tries the keto diet gets the same information as you and is successful.
10 years on high carb, low fat, not oil. Still waiting to gain weight. I am lean as f..k and I eat tons of carbs daily with little to not exercise. Same my family on the same lifestyle. My cousins on the other end eating only animal products, cheese and eggs are fat and obese. They always look at me with envy but nobody wants to switch to my eating habits.
This guy is a skeleton walking. He has no muscle and I bet if he took off his shirt he would be skinny fat. Sorry doc, but for most people who are already overweight carbs will block fat loss guaranteed. Even though this guys channel is called nutrition facts, it really should be called nutrition opinion. This guy is so plant-based biased it's obvious. As a personal trainer with 14 years of experience i can tell you that keto is the best diet for getting people to lose weight.
keto is great to get a reset after decades of damage done . for example to fix insulin resistance due to years of overeating and binging sugar . weight loss is a bonus .
@@ethelchip3620 Lmao my fasting insulin has reduced by 28% in three months doing keto, and my fasting glucose has dropped from 101 to 86 in that same time frame. You don't know anything about insulin if you think a low-carb, high-fat diet makes insulin resistance worse. There are plenty of other things up for debate such as heart health, but it is irrefutable that keto helps insulin resistance and reverses type 2 diabetes when done properly, cleanly, and especially when mixed with intermittent fasting.
@Kevin yeah it seems like there’s a ton of research linking saturated fat consumption to insulin resistance. Google it for yourself. Keto diets are typically high in saturated fat. The studies showing benefits are just short term because of weight loss.
I just did 6 months of Paleo/Keto and I did all the bloodworks and performance tests. They are perfect. Now I'm gonna do 6 months of vegan and see what happens
First off I follow a keto WOE and have lost 80lbs in a year in combination with intermittent fasting. I have followed vegan and vegetarian diets on the past with no success in terms of weight management. I was aware of the study you mentioned and the issues surrounding it. I would be interested to hear what you would suggest the mechanism is behind the fat loss people experience on a keto WOE is if it is not due to insulin model? As clearly something is going on which enables people to drop the stomach inches. Many thanks.
Same here Nick. I’m dropping pounds and inches since starting keto diet, even with a cheat meal on the weekends. I feel better, bacon, eggs and steak are delicious too.
“I have followed vegan and vegetarian diets” that says absolutely nothing about what you actually ate if you ate lots of cheese and other dairy products or processed carbs and lots of oil then no wonder you didn’t lose weight
The reason why you lost weight is because regardless of diet composition, calorie restriction works. Eating less of anything will make you lose weight. It has been showed that certain diets fit better with certain people. And although I would argue that a keto diet isn't optimal for health, any diet that makes you lose significant weight (hence increasing every marker of health) and keeps you there (no rebound), is a diet you should stick to. One should try, however, to transition to a plant-based diet once his ideal weight achieved to see if he can make it work, health being achieved at this stage by improving food choices.
Congrats on the tremendous results. Hopefully they have continued. Don’t forget to monitor your serum lipids though and make sure you don’t fall prey to the “they don’t matter” crowd. They do matter, if you accept statistics as being valid.
I feel bad for those who fall for this keto trash, but... Come on, people, did you really think replacing the grain bun on a big and disgusting cheeseburger with a bun entirely made out of cheese and egg was gonna help you lose weight?
Not well designed study. The carb diet had 2x as much protein and wasn't really a "high carb" diet at all. The keto diet had not enough protein % and too high of fat %. It should have been designed to have the same amount of protein and then the carb and fat adjusted.
@@CantEscapeFlorida It doesn't matter if its vegan or not. You will lose more musclemass on keto diet. Justä eat carbs, they even taste better than all that fat and you can eat much much more dor same amount of calories.
Quack Watch for who? Bacon companies? I know they have some keto snack bars now at the grocery store but it is like two kinds in a whole wall of protein bars.
I did keto carb and it worked and gave me many advantages and healed a lot of issues HOWVER! that doesn’t mean the king term effects are healthy. I have no regrets doing keto however I Prefer plant based. Keto is great to reverse medical conditions.
Good Video, I did keto for 3 months with my normal calories and lost 40lbs. Mostly body fat.....Energy levels were off the charts but I did mostly vegan fats from nuts, avocados etc.... Guess everyone is different
And many people think the Keto diet and the carnivore diet are one in the same. I eat more veggies on keto than I did before. I eat TONS of macadamian nuts, 1g+ of fat per nut
The Keto diet is absolute bullshit! Severely restricting carbohydrates is the stupidest thing you can do when dieting. Think about it, when it comes to losing fat ALL it comes down to is being in a caloric deficit. Exercise helps you create this deficit. Guess what fuels your workouts? CARBS! Anyone that follows a keto diet is simply ignorant but now I have informed you so do not do keto. Just eat less, exercise consistently, get enough protein, and make sure you are losing about a pound per week until you reach your goal weight.
Appreciate you, Dr. Greger! One of your vids made me quit Keto today. Have chosen the whole plant food way instead. Thanks for bringing forward the info. It was the vid with the info about breast cancer, petri dishes and blood samples. Oh my!!!!!
McGregors videos are highly selective and outragiously twist scentific research. He did a video on a paper which 'proved' high carb vegan was great for treating diabeties. When I downloaded and read the actual paper it said the opposite, the low carb group had better blood suger and control! You cannot trust him or his videos. He has one viewpoint and a pile of books etc... to sell depends on it!
@@AnHeC diabetes is not reversed DUE to a high carb diet, it is reversed by a diet - reducing calories and thus improving insulin sensitivity by cutting body weight. This reenbles the body to process carbs. By definition diabetes is a disease in which the body cannot process carbs! A low carb diet has auch more dramatic effect despite the lies and spin of the vegans
@@SlobberySlobtype 2 diabetes is not a disease, it's a physiological response to the stress produced by insulin spikes, that's why you reserve it, but can't actually cure it. Don't be too hard on vegans or vegetarians, some of them are assertive enough to tell that keto is not only healthy, but also sustainable on the long term, as evidenced by people like Dr. Berg or Luis Villaseñor. My only problems are individuals like the man of these videos that point with the finger and lie about the so called "opposite side" that only creates conflicts between people that have the same goal: stay healthy. Have some patience, they'll soon understand who's at their side.
I being in ketosis state by y accident since almost 6 years ago. All because I'm allergic to fruits and all plant based foods and fiber. How come I have lost a lot of fat and my muscles are bigger than before? My legs and butt are more thicker like never before and I don't even do that much exercise. People think that I am a weigh lifter, they ask me what do I do to look like this. I only tell them that I don't eat plant based foods. I eat a lot of eggs and meats. My doc says that my blood test is perfect just cholesterol is high but according to recent studies high cholesterol is not bad. My mom was diagnosed with liver cancer and I encourage her to start the keto, and guess what after 4 months her cancer was gone.
I like your work, I follow it for years and am pretty sure you are making most people healthier with you content. BUT 2 questions: 1) you seem to have an obsession about animal products. You never seem to see any good reason to consume them and they are supposed to be the worse evil (right after processed food). But when we look at the Blue zones (where people live the healthiest and the longest) although they eat little animal products, they do still consume a little bit... so I wonder if there is not another reason for being so decisive on things like organic grass fed beef or wild caught salmon... 2) regarding the low carb diets, it’s interesting to note that there 1 million ways to be low carb... you can even have quite a bit of fiber and eat a lot of vegetables on that kind of diet. You seem to not go into the details there and talk about low carbs in general which can mean pretty much anything. Just like you can have a very unhealthy vegan diet... because... fries... are vegan... beer... is vegan... so you don’t talk about vegan diets, you talk about « whole food plant based » and I get that. But what about an « organic whole food plant rich low carb » diet? 😉 Still love your content though but I can’t help myself to feel that there is maybe one other thing that is guiding part of the argumentation
You love the content because Greger has an engaging style, and something tells you plants "must" be healthy. The reason Greger isn't addressing your questions is that Greger is intellectually dishonest. He makes a living promoting plant based diets. Promoting plant based diets is the "product" he's selling. He looks for research to support his product all the time, research he can cite in these videos, which are essentially advertisements. You're as likely to hear Greger talk about the downsides of plants, or the benefits of animals, as you are to hear a Ford commercial touting the greatness of Audi's. Do you think Greger never comes across anything positive or neutral about animal foods? Once you face that one simple realization, you're ready to pull back the curtain and see Greger as the fraud pretending to be the wizard. Yes, the diets that contribute to longevity ... this is a very complex topic. The answer is clearly not that plant based diets are the healthiest. Obviously, there's nothing especially healthy about plant based foods. They are almost completely devoid of a number of crucial nutrients. Vitamin B12 and D are the two best known examples. Try being healthy without Vitamin D ... I dare you. According to a recent study in Israel, people with vitamin D levels below 30 ng/ml were 95% more likely to be hospitalized for covid-19. Another study from Indonesia found that about 99% of patients who died of covid-19 had vitamin D levels lower than 20 ng/ml. Yet, vitamin D is virtually absent from plant based foods. Also, keep in mind that you can "correct" a vitamin deficiency by supplementing. However, it's very likely that you'll retain permanent damage, for instance, genetic damage. Here's a simple two question private study you can run. Whenever someone tells you they're a vegan, ask them if they have a problem with vitamin D deficiency. (Answer is always: Yes, or, I don't know.) Whenever someone tells you they've had a vitamin D deficiency, ask if they are or were a vegan. (Answer is always: Yes.) Why isn't Greger talking about this? ... Why is he talking instead about bizarre claims about animal foods, which almost everyone eats without experiencing his scenarios, while ignoring a mountain of research contradicting him? Because he's a fraud. And I'm just getting started. What about vitamin K2? The research is stunning on how important this is for health. And what about the omega-3 fatty acid DHA, that people commonly associate with fish oil? DHA is the basic animal form of omega-3 fat. Plants have their own omega-3, which is different. This mismatch means your body has to struggle to convert plant based omega-3, from sources like flax seeds, to the form our bodies use. Note that your brain is about 2/3 fat, and about 1/6 of your brain by weight is pure DHA. Try getting your brain to work right, when it doesn't have the most important nutrient it needs. In fact, studies have found cognitive impairment among vegans. Gee, I wonder why? The problem with DHA is the problem with a lot of plant based nutrients. Since plant biology is radically different from animal biology, many of the nutrients from plants are in the wrong form for animals. Humans don't have all of the enzymes necessary for complete and efficient conversion. Why? Because we're obviously not herbivores. Humans have eaten animal food throughout all human history in every part of the world and in prehistoric times as well. We're somewhat adapted to survive by supplementing with plants Like I said, I'm just getting started. But don't let me stop you if you like the sound of Greger's voice and think, I want to be a vegan, don't let me stop you. Just make sure you only listen to Greger from that time forward. You won't want to know what's in the 99% of the research literature that he won't talk about.
@@rockysmitt "The answer is clearly not that plant based diets are the healthiest." No, in fact, the research is very clear that diets dominated by WHOLE plant foods (vegan or very low in animal foods) are healthiest. "Obviously, there's nothing especially healthy about plant based foods." Speaking as someone who researches and teaches nutrition, we professors are obviously failing to reach enough people. Plant foods have hundreds of phytonutrients animal foods lack. On average, plant foods have 64 TIMES as much antioxidant punch as animal foods (and oxidative stress is a common mechanism of most chronic diseases). Plant foods boost your body's ability to de-toxify air pollution, repair damaged DNA, produce CoQ10, fight cancer (garlic appears to be the best, but many in the cruciferous and allium families yield impressive results), reduce inflammation, etc. K2? Someone eating enough greens gets so much extra K1 they have plenty to covert to K2. Fats? Some of the healthiest and longest lived populations ate less than 10% of calories from fat, and while there is some reason to believe vegans should maybe take a vegan EPA/DHA supplement, many omnivores are low and that and need B12 supplementation too. But Olivier asked a sincere question: he's right Greger doesn't address often the possibility that eating animal foods might be beneficial 3-10 times a month--and it might be helpful even for some people even who eat a well-balanced vegan diet otherwise. There's just not much research that is that nuanced to provide fodder for videos and podcasts. " Humans have eaten animal food throughout all human history in every part of the world and in prehistoric times as well." Humans have also eaten plants throughout our history and they have often been the main source of calories and nutrients--including for some remaining hunter-gatherer tribes.
So much garbage...... Really???? The body store far for reserve energy to be use during starvation ( fasting or low insulin levels) But when this happens, the body just start to use the muscle as a spires of fuel and not the the stored fat???? It totally ridiculous.
LOVE this video. * NOW WITH THIS VIDEO i FINALLY KNOW THAT FOR MANY THIS KETO DIET DOES NOT WORK* I didn't lose weight on Keto..... I did it diligently for several months. I ate "uber" healthy counted net carb grams(( carbs - fiber)). Also tried counting EVERY single carb gram - regardless of dietary fiber - which is even less carbs. My fats never came from TransFats no canola oil, or refined oils((=oils processed by means of over-processing and very high heat)) ect. I ate a variety of avocados, coconuts, nuts & seeds, olives. No weight loss, and struggled to not gain weight - shockingly NOT the diet for me. Since stopping Keto, I am now losing weight again. Yeah! :-)
Your life must be so sad, calculating and punching numbers for everything that you intake. Maybe that was your problem. Also weight loss shouldn't be the goal, how long did you do it for? What fat were you losing that you couldn't see? ie fat around your organs. Me, I dropped my carbs in food, no measuring, and inflammation went in three days. I even kept by daily beer habit to make sure it was my dietary food that made the difference. See how simple it is to find a winner.
Better yet, check your thyroid, or cortisol, estrogen levels that affects the fat loss. I did ketogenic diet for 1 year and it's effective. And healthy
Keto while vegan is not good... Your fat must be mostly animal fat. Seeds make you gain weight and disrupt the omega3 levels in your body creating inflammation. If you think about it, it wouldn't be possible for you to be a caveman and walk hundreds of miles to find all of these seeds and thousands of miles during winter... So it had to be meat, that is the body system you were issued.
The problem everyone is looking for a miracle and there isn't one; lowering calories works, vegan works, lowering carbs works, intermittent fasting works. If you change the way you eat you will see results because the body is adjusting to the change. Personally as a vegetarian I believe that lowering carbs works because it worked for me. As a vegetarian we get in the habit of eating a lot of grains, pastas, etc... This can make vegetarians gain weight. In the low carb diet I ate a lot of fresh veggies ditched the rice, pasta, bread, sugar and upped my fats from avocados, grass fed butter, some nuts but didn't over do it. I also increased my exercise and did intermittent fasting (I didn't eat at night)This was something I could do as a new lifestyle not just short term. My suggestion is: stop looking for a miracle and put in the effort to change what made you unhealthy to begin with. Make sure that you go to the Dr on a regular basis to make sure you are on the right track for your body.
If you are vegetarian for concern for animal wellbeing, and not wanting to participate in needless animal death, then you should also be aware that millions of baby male chicks and calves are killed in the egg and dairy industry, and all animals in those industries end up in the slaughterhouse hanging upside down choking on their own blood as they die. Choosing plant milk instead of dairy milk is such an easy thing to do. There are nice vegan cheese like Violife Cheddar. Ben and Jerry's have nice vegan ice cream. Even though processed vegan foods aren't the most healthy, if you do want to treat yourself and enjoy some of those products, they are most definitely healthier than animal products. I have a "Dairy" playlist on my channel playlists if you are interested to learn more of the health risks with dairy.
@@ethicalrevolution3294 Agreed. I don't want to shame people for only being vegetarian, as any step towards more veg positivity should be welcomed by the community. But citing ethical reasons and only being vegetarian does suggest perhaps some incomplete info.
I had fatty liver before and when i started the keto diet it reversed it. I still believe the keto diet is great to do because i lost 70 pounds in 8 months with it, but again everyone's body works differently, so you do whats best for you. And for anyone whos health suffered from keto, all i can say is you didn't do it right, eating heavy amounts of bacon and cheese is not a good idea. I had bacon rarely and used other healthier unprocessed sources of fat.
Keto is good for short term. It is a diet for survival mode. Fatty liver is also reversed when you go 3 day or more water fasting. In the survival mode your body burns ketones and fatty liver is reversed.
Thousands of people have reversed their type 2 diabetes, cholesterol, high blood pressure, PCOS, infertility...the list goes on...by going on a low carbohydrate diet. Cutting out sugar and grains is the healthiest thing you can do for yourself.
I was on the keto diet for 10 months we went on vacation and I went off of the diet for the past 2 months What I learned while I was on the keto diet is my health improved quickly to the point where I had to lower my meds in the first 2 month blood pressure medications and diabetic meds I lost 55lbs in the first 3months which was great but at the same time freaked me out so I maintained that weight for the next 3 months then I lost anothe 20lbs over the last 4 months also while on the keto diet my choleterol levels got normal and my triglycerides dropped from 290 down to 160 when I went on vacation in July and started to eat a high carb diet all my cholesterol levels went back to where they were the previous year before I started the keto diet plus my a1c levels went up from 4.3 to 5.0 A1C levels are a measure of sugar in the blood 5.0 is still a good number but my cholesterol and triglycerides went back to the unhealthy levels. So needless to say at the beginning of September I went back on the keto diet. I am doing the keto diet for health reasons as well as losing weight and I don't buy any of their products except nutrition yeast which I happen to like on my daily salad. You guys can bash this diet any way you like I tried all the other diets the diabetic diet the heart association diet the diets the doctors told to follow and none of these worked but I got healthy on the keto diet and that's all that matters to me.
This information can't come fast enough. Everyone I talk to who is trying to lose weight, universally say, "I'm cutting carbs". It will be fun watching the keto craze die out.
@michael plemel 🤣 Yeah I botched that one pretty good. I guess that's what happens when you comment on the run. My bad, better luck next time. Thanks for pointing that out. 😁👍
@Youarewhatyoueat the way people on the keto diet or paleo diet eat is tremendously different. The style of eating that paleo biologist are maybe discovering dies out already. Last I checked they are not finding people from millions of years ago downing dairy, oil, processed meat, processed foods in general, and all other processed keto or paleo foods. The keto diet is a joke and will be 100% proven so in due time.
@Youarewhatyoueat all processed foods are bad. But if you want a side by side comparison of a whole food plant based diet and a keto diet, the whole food plant based diet will easily dominate it for best diet for longevity, disease reversal, disease prevention, and micronutrient content. There is no comparison really, whole food plant based diet is far superior than the keto diet.
Explain me how your body "craving" sugar ? 😂 If the fat and protein ate esential and you NEED to eat them and Sugar is NOT esential and your body cant making it alone?
@@fspipe10 becuse you are vegan and you donr care about science and reality 😃 Easy: yoh need to eat FAT and PROTEIN. Your body can not make it alone. Your body can make glucose alone and you dont need to eat sugar = fat/protein are important. Sugar is not important.
I'm not a vegan i've been diagnosed with prediabetes, after that i decreased my carbs heavily , and tried to eat enough to build muscle, it turned out it's an impossible task ! Without carbs there is NO muscle !
@@karinet7952 Yes, there is, it's called glucose and it's the only thing your body runs on. The only thing. That's why your body converts protein and fat into glucose. It can't use them directly as energy. Look up the Krebs Cycle. It explains everything.
m0L3ify lol the term essential means your body has obtain from external source your liver can make all the glucose you need with out an external source.
@@bobmonk388 Ah, so why have I been eating all this food all my life? Damn, I wish someone had told me all this sooner! I could have saved all this grocery money and bought a house! Shoot, I am gonna save so much time and money now! Thanks!!
Carbs become in glucose after spent energy to break them down. But it's that easy, there is fiber too. And as a plus you can get vitamins and minerals... I don't understand why the people follow extremes diet, just eat a balance diet
@@user-we6wi3rn1l You are mis informed. Fat only makes you fat if you are tanking down the carbs. Cut the carbs and increase the fat to lose weight, reduce inflammation, lower blood pressure, lower a1c, reduce joint pain,, increase energy. How do I know? I did it.
Lmao I didnt have 134 pounds of muscle and water to lose, but so far I am down 134 pounds easily with keto. 1st month is mostly water, but then you switch to full fat burning.
1. lmao how do you know how much muscle and water you had? did you measure it? 2. lmao is it better if you lost only 1.34 pounds of muscle ? why lose any muscle at all? 3. lmao your full fat burning ended after 1st month 4. lmao this guy did much better than you and (surprise) he wasn't eating any fat en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus_Barbieri%27s_fast
@@SergePavlovsky 1. Well I am a 5 foot tall female so unless I'm hiding a body builder under my skin I can be pretty sure there wasn't 134 pounds of muscle on my whole body, period. 2. I've lost zero noticeable muscle. My calves look like a body builders, Nice and Muscular. I'm just as strong as I ever was. (faster, healthier, more energetic) 3. My fat burning has been ongoing for 2 yrs. (fat burning starts after the 1st month genius, it doesn't end there) 4. I highly doubt it. ( I lost 134 pounds and 25 medically diagnoses disease including incurable blood cancer" and I'm still going strong on a full, never hungry tummy without a single day in a gym) Plus I help thousands of others do the same! (free) 5. I think, that you think, that you are.... smarter than you really are.
@@KETODiamond 1 you are confusing past with present and muscle+water with muscle 2. so you didn't measure it. everyone will be faster without 134 pounds 3. full fat burning stops when you start adding fat via diet. btw, what were burned during 1st month if not fat? brain? it's mostly fat 4. you doubt that 276 is larger than 134? 5. wrong again. i think that i'm exactly as smart as i am
Your personal version may be. The purest form of keto is a lot of meat, a lot of fat, a bit of protein, hardly any carb. A healthy diet on the other hand includes lots of fiber, which means a variety of vegetables, beans and nuts. What the two have in common: get rid of processed carbs (white bread, chips, sweets, sugary drinks etc.)
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dr. greger, at 4.50 previous sentence of you marked say that "DXA total lean body chance were not differentiated"
So now what? Which diet do you recommend to build muscle and stay lean? You seem to have a pretty good grasp of nutrition.
@@eduardocampos5739 he recommends a plant based diet, you can watch more of his videos, stay away from processed foods.
Need to support vegan diet? Bring out a dozen ethically conducted, controlled, double-blind, etc studies. Need to take down keto? Let's form our understanding this single study with ethical issues - funded by a company that embezzled funds. Yeah, that's great form, Michael Greger. Well done. Truly a great, objective, unbiased source of info on dietary topics.
Eduardo Campos A whole food, plant-based vegan diet rich in whole grains, fruits, vegetables, legumes, etc. All the protein you need to build muscles comes from plants, which also has fiber, phytonutrients, antioxidants, and other good stuff. You also have the added side effect of saving animals and going easy on the environment!
I failed at going vegan the first time around because I gave in to the keto narrative that starches made me fat. Now, I love my rice, potatoes, and beans while working out every day in my slimmer body!
Well at least they had the decency to accurately report their findings instead of cooking numbers to suit their agenda.
Siphoning Blues or not publishing and shredding all of the evidence of the trial ;)
believe me they would try but in a metabolic ward p-hacking is kinda obvious if you try lol
Why would they have an agenda to make people go keto? What would be the motive? To sell all the keto products?
@@wofferful you need to read the wikipedia article on "bias"
@@wofferful Absolutely. Have a look at any of these guys, their websites sell very expensive supplements that are needed to go with these great diets for some reason.
When he says “PUT IT TO THE TEST” and “UNTIL...NOW” I get excited
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Me too 😂
Losing water
It's time for them to rename this diet again.
Bullsheeto diet
No one named anything. Ketosis is a state of metabolism and we have always had this metabolism since we became humans. Some people feel theyre not human.
@@dana102083 It was called Atkins. Now it's called Keto.
@@zorro149 Nope. Atkins is a completely seperate thing.
@@grantosullivan9789 It's all low carb.
My mom started the keto diet over a year ago to lose weight and help control her type 2 diabetes. She succeeded in those two objectives, but suffered a stroke last month. I have not heard anyone mention her stroke as being diet related, but everything I’ve ever heard about nutrition makes me believe it was. More and more friends of mine are going keto. I hate to be the sanctimonious vegan, but I genuinely worry for their health.
Gosh, you get better.
Joanna....so sorry for your loss. I do not think diet played a role in her stroke. Stroke is a broken blood vessel, many times from high blood pressure. I would blame her history of diabetes rather then a change in diet. Again, so sorry.
Definitely clogged arteries from the diet
@@logangaddy Thank you. That these people don't know that vascular congestion affects the brain as it does the area around the heart is galling! Maybe they don't know there are blood vessels up there?
Joanna’s Jungle that’s so sad :( I’m lucky my non vegan family members still eat starch based.
Thank you Doctor. I am so very thankful I found your website and heard about a plant-based lifestyle after my heart attack 4 years ago, at age 61.
I’ve never felt better. ♥️
K H what was your diet like before that heart attack? Thank you for speaking up and getting connected and going WFPB /Vegan!
Red Pill Vegan:
Standard American Diet....red meat, lots of burgers, very few veggies or fruits really, chicken dishes. LOTs of cheese on everything, casseroles, fast food, sugary desserts, etc. All for years. Had to have 2 stents put in. Sure was a big wake-up call.
K H glad you’re feeling and doing well. May I ask, what blood thinner were you on, and how long did you take it? Were you able to come off of it after a year which is normally recommended?
MORBUENO GROUP
Hi. I stayed on my blood thinner for 2 years I think. It was a generic Plavix. I was not as compliant the 1st year as I should have been. But have since done well.
K H thank you for the reply. I was asking for my father who just went what you went thru and now I’m helping him find healthier avenues to help in his recuperation. I think if he stays compliant with a WFPBD he may be able to wing himself off the placid after the year which his doctor said he will need to stay on.
Of course carbs are fatning, I realized 30 years ago while travelling around East Asia that rice and veg eating people were morbidly fat and Americans so trim that you could walk all day amongst thousands and thousands of people and not see one single fat person. Total common sense.
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Good one!! Im sure some people are stupid enough to take you seriously
Hong Kong has the highest meat consumption per capita in the world, and also the highest average life expectancy in the world. It's the ultimate Blue Zone. Don't take my word for it, look it up, it's an easy fact to check... Kinda shoots a big old hole in your sarcastic comment...
@@NickFoxer Unfortunately that doesn't mean much in the context of degerative disease. Most people in Hong Kong suffer degenerative disease for 5-10 yrs prior to death. Unlike Okinawa /Sardinia etc where they are active up until 1-2 months before death.
Americans eat far more carbs than East Asians, who actually eat a diet high in meat and seafood. A bowl of rice is a lot less carbs than a twelve-inch 'personal' pizza. Also vastly more fructose in the American diet, which is why people on the SAD are prone to developing diabetes and fatty liver disease.
Oh he dragged Nina. At least she recycles tho, respect.
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@@holisticbiohacker8144 wanker
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Jason Fung tho. The study was biased by vegans tho. Twitter tho. The people's ketones were biased by Vegetable intake (known carcinogen) tho. They were not fasted 18/6 tho. They were still addicted to carbs tho. Soy.
Not grass-fed. Lol.
Red Pill Vegan the study design was flawed. Keto benefits only kick in after 8 weeks ;)
The researchers didn’t blend high quality grass-fed butter into their coffee tho. The fat in the coffee really gets the brain working and ramps up the fat burning. Flawed study.
@Quack Watch keto blogs > phd research every time
@@TheBirdyyeses facts
FINALLY! I've been waiting for you to kill the keto diet with science (humanely, tho) for a looooooong time
The state of ketosis is officially dead thanks to you. Humanity will from henceforth only burn glucose for energy. As your next trick, could you make snow illegal?
After being vegan / vegetarian for over 45 years I got in the car wreck. The drugs disrupted my digestive system and a year later I went on a ketogenic diet for 2 years. I was diagnosed with several autoimmune disorders and was on five or six different drugs including Humira Remicade steroids and painkillers. Keto got me off all of these drugs and back to normal and now I'm half vegan half Keto. You don't know anything when you say debunk a keto diet until you actually get sick and have to use one to save your life.
@@KeyofDavid5778 amen! Sometimes you have to explain to the vegans that there's a thing called autoimmune disease (maybe they've heard of it, maybe they haven't) and some people who have it (like me) are actually worse off doing the vegan diet. The whole grains and legumes are actually more inflammatory and disrupt the gut more than they are good. Switching to keto (keto done the right way which is a whole food diet that includes a steady stream of veggies and leafy greens along with wild caught salmon wild caught chunk light tuna 100% grass fed and finished beef pasture raised chicken and eggs nuts seeds coconut oil mct oil avocado oil ... Etc.) Is actually the healthiest route for them. I know, I've done both whole food diets and have better results with clean keto than vegan. Better results as measured through blood tests, best blood pressure in my life, best cardiac throughput while exercising (I.e. significant reduction in peek exercise pulse rate), coronary artery calcium score of 0 (at age 45). Also some people don't switch to keto just to lose weight (that's something I don't need to do) but rather it's the healthiest way for them as verified by their own measurable tests/results.
@@KeyofDavid5778 oh man, so sorry for you! do you do vegan keto or half/half in an other way? because I guess you can do any diet in a wrong way, but also in a better way. if you don't know her, check our "TheVeggieMD" on Twitter/IG, she did a vegan Keto challenge for 2 weeks, and gives a lot of insights, ressources, facts, research etc. :)
@goggles789 I don't, I have read many of the studies myself and have experienced with my own body. Have you tried a whole-foods, plant-based diet for yourself? no sure, 17 men is not the hardest evidence ever, but show me one randomised controlled trial with hundreds of people showing that a keto (or for that matter high fat, low whole grain) diet is healthy long term...
As a result of reading this study, the rate of cognitive dissonance among ketogenic diet proponents went up 100%
@@briansprenger5578 it can take up to 10 days for the body to stop gluconeogenisis, their diet went for 4 weeks. Try again
@Quack Watch hold my keto wine glass, I'm about to do my dismount.
Lol! Hey you look familiar!
@@FranchiseCityOnline I get around 😉
@GawdSpeed 6 weeks?! Not even keto die hards have the commitment to wait that long for results..
This horrible garbage killed my mom. She was influenced to try keto by that article, and died of a massive heart attack. She had been eating plant-based some years prior and was doing well, then all of the "butter is good" misleading information was all over the place, so she decided to try "keto".
Lite Hold that’s horrible, I’m so sorry. I am worried about my ketro friend too.
@@sidilicious11 - thank you. Keto is very damaging, I hope your friend comes to her senses.
@Peter Rabitt - It is criminal what these people are doing. I hope you win, and thank you for helping victims of "Keto".
Ok, so I was sceptical about this video and just to see if I could 'trust' it I headed quickly over to the sources. Half of them were from 2002 (interesting) and I clicked on a more recent one, the one where Dr. Greger mentions that keto crossfiters lost muscle mass. Just reading this abstract you can already tell Dr. Greger just picks out what he wants from these studies, isolates it and uses it for his point.
The end of the abstract states: 'While our n-sizes were limited [my add: control group n=5, keto dieters n=7 btw], these preliminary data suggest that adopting a ketogenic diet causes marked reductions in whole-body adiposity while not impacting performance measures in recreationally-trained CrossFit trainees. Whether decrements in dual-leg muscle mass and vastus lateralis thickness in KD participants were due to fluid shifts remain unresolved, and increased LDL-C in these individuals warrants further investigation.'
So to summarize: Keto dieters lost weight, didn't have lower performance, no data on if actually lean body mass was lost or just fluid shifts, and some controversial blood markers shifted to warrant further investigation.
But all Dr. Greger takes from this is "keto dieters are losing lean body mass from this diet".
Tell me this is not wilfully deceiving by Dr. Greger. So much for your 'NutritionFacts'.
I assume the rest of his points are equally cherry picked, isolated and overstated. If you want to be taken seriously you should never be caught obviously deceiving like this. And this was literally the first thing I picked out to look further into and right away found this discrepancy. Honest mistakes are one thing, but it is obvious this guy presents all this stuff only to fit what he wants to be true. I'll stick to thinking for myself.
Reading these comments is depressing, people need to step away from tribal “us vs them” mentalities when discussing science and something as important as the health of billions of people. I would like to point out that the Am J Clin Nut 2016 study is far too small to draw any major conclusions from, it was just a pilot study. It does strongly support calorie restriction for overall fat loss though - which isn’t news, but keto and fasting supporters know how easy calorie restriction is on a low carb diet.
Simpletons will always have that mentality. It’s really unfortunate. This is why society is constantly fighting with each other & why we still have money.
Atherosclerosis is not worth weight loss
Atherosclerosis is due to high CHO spikes in your blood.
@@briansprenger5578 What have to do animal protein with Artheroscerosis?
Brian Sprenger study?
Yes, but which is the priority? Not everyone with high cholesterol gets CAD, and not everyone with low cholesterol is protected from it. Yet just about everyone who is obese is suffering in one way or another.
@@briansprenger5578 Sticky proteins, I've never heard of that. You mean like peanut butter? Relax, just kidding.
Thank you so much, Dr. Greger. Sorry you have to waste your time explaining the obvious.
nothing is obvious until you put it to the test.
@Bruce Leroy Come into the light.
@Bruce Leroy triggered? :p
@Bruce Leroy Dr. Greger read this, as you and I can. He's never ran, been part of a clinical practice of weight loss, or any other that we know of. He's a researcher. I personally am against the keto diet, and have kept in shape for decades the old fashion way, good diet and exercise, but the science still isn't clear. So many are reporting large amounts of weight loss, reversal of diabetes, off blood pressure meds, etc., and we still don't know why. You can't just loose 40, 50, 60 or more pounds of "muscle and water." All we have are bits and pieces of the "science."
I personally know of a man who lost nearly 100 pounds. We can all speculate as to it could have this, or it could have been that, but that's not good enough. To convince a formerly obese man on 6 different meds, now taking none, who's lost 100 lbs that what he's doing is wrong with a 6 minute video just doesn't cut it. Obesity is a very complex and not yet fully understood symptom, and varies greatly from person to person. Keto is as popular as vegan these days, and not because people like to eat fat.
You're making the same mistake as many keto proponents: to blindly assume what you think is correct. Better keep an open mind.
I hope Dr. Greger also will explain other downsides of keto, like possible gut flora defecation (?) or other process in the body that are hampered..
There's just too much success stories from people doing keto. And I mean, clean keto. I think you forget that. Hype all you want vegans, the only real reason you don't like keto is because it's almost impossible to bring carbs down on a vegan diet.
Finding 'your own' sweet spot of daily carbs is the key to your own weightloss. As the same with fats. Your body talks to you. You need only listen.
Dr. Greger, I am sure you are a FBI agent undercover as a nutritionist 😝
Ketogenic Diet BUSTED 😂
Yes! He does do such an amazing job with all of his videos doesn't he?
You mean MD not RD - as in he's undercover as an MD
@@CantEscapeFlorida So you think the biased people who paid 40 million for a study didn't do whatever they could to make it look positive towards their bias?
Indirectly claiming that the body's energy exependure would change after more time just proves that you have no idea what you're talking about. There is a reason why the study didn't need to continue and even the biased called it a closed case - maybe you should spend time studying biology instead of advertising ignorance online.
@@pfwinbar Humans started eating dead rotting animal bodies millions of years before they started eating genetically engineered modern apples my friend, and you wouldn't be here if your ancestors (even your close ancestors) didn't bust their ass to hunt animals. Doesn't matter how bad you want to make it sound, our digestive tract is very well designed for meat consumption. It takes more time to digest animal foods because our body absorb more out of it.
@@byReZio Yes and they were also eating lot of cooked tubercules, highly available in Africa. I begin to think more and more than both keto and plant based are wrong. High carb low glycemic index, high animal protein is maybe more close to what our ancestors ate every day.
I was a healthy man of 45 years, and was stupid enough to do a keto diet, for 2 years. The outcome was: gained weight, high cholesterol, very bad mood, muscle cramps and finally heart arrythmia which led to a stroke. Now, since 2 years I am more or less on Dr Gregers way of eating, and all shitty keto symptoms gone. I would really like to sue them keto charlatans one day!
When someone tells me that on their ketogenic diet all they eat is bacon, egg , steak, and cheese I know right away that it is an idiotic diet. Of course, I understand that Intermittent fasting and restricting carbs on some days (something like carb fasting day) can help with diabetes. But I don't support a full keto.
I think you got it wrong, you also eat a lot of vegetables on keto. If you didn't you'll end up with electrolite deficiencies.
So why does it work?
I'm not saying you're wrong or that your research isn't on point but literally everyone I know who has tried the ketogenic diet has lost significant weight, become healthier (I can only verify myself in this claim) and kept the weight off? I went from 240 to 145lb and ended up becoming a semi pro (cat 3) crit racer all while on vegetarian keto, I almost never get sick and my blood panels I get done regularly for cycling are as perfect as they can be.
My roommate went from 360 and is now at 240.
My coworker went from 250 to 180 now.
My cousin has lost 30lbs in 3 months.
Then there's literally thousands of people on Reddit or other social media reporting the same success. How am I supposed to look at all that clear evidence that takes 0 research to see and buy into this video? The other thing is that you're getting the reason for keto wrong. Yes people talk about more fat burning but that's not the point. The point is appetite suppression and increased energy. You also don't shovel down fat because you're not eating carbs, because of the suppression of appetite you don't eat as much until you get down to a low BMI like me where I do need to increase my fat intake to maintain weight. But on the weight loss journey I was easily able to just slip right into intermittent fasting.
Then there's piles of research that say the opposite of what your and your research claim. So in a topic even researchers can't agree on I'll go with what I've seen.
@UCan't Fool Me Always follow the paper trail. I do find that most videos against keto have a vegan bias. This is ridiculous because I'm a pescatarian who doesn't eat dairy myself and the majority (at least 95%) of my diet is entirely plant-based. Literally the only thing I eat that isn't vegan is Fish, honey, and insects. I only have Fish maybe twice a month. I do Keto incredibly easy on a plant-based diet even without the fish. So this vegan war on keto is unfounded.
whatever a keto diet can do for health and weight loss, a whole foods vegan diet can do it better. so this whole conversation is clearly pointless. Fat people losing weight proves very little.
Caloric deficite.
@Dan M7
Diabetes improves with weight loss. There is no data that suggest keto improves insulin sensitivity without weightloss. Quite the opposite, insulin sensitivity decreases during keto [1], if you do not believe that make a OGTT on a keto diet. But when you feed people a high carb high fiber diet, force them to eat so much so they do not lse weight, their insulin sensitivity improves so much that they have lower blood sugar despite the higher carb intake [2].
We also have studies showing that people on low carb diets get more diabetes, and that people that eat more whole grains or fruits, which are both high carb foods, have less diabetes and people that eat more meat or eggs have more diabetes, both foods that many keto gurus eat a lot [3].
"How can you possible in your right mind say Keto does not work?"
Because we didn't see studies supporting your claims. There are some diseases like epilepsy, some form of cancer and depression that can be treated with keto. But definitely not type 2 diabetes and also not the other diseases you mention, it also has some very bad side effects and the keto community does not talk a lot about the risk of keto. If you disagree show some scientific evidence.
"There is undeniable evidence that it works,"
If there is so much evidence, then why did you not link a single study proving your claims?
"works amazingly well for people who’ve failed on vegan diets."
What has veganism to do with diet? You can eat a vegan keto diet.
"This is why people think vegans are crazy.
Just accept that meat and Keto is healing people."
Yes, extremely crazy. Just show us evidence for your claims.
Can you please define what you mean with "designed to be herbivores"? Herbivore is not a very precise term.
"That’s why you cannot eat grass or leaves off trees without getting extremely ill,"
Nobody suggest we should do that. We are designed to eat starches, we have many more genes to create amylase than chimps do which we use to break down starch [4].
"to many beans and lentils."
Do you have studies showing that legumes are unhealthy for the general population? Systematic reviews show the opposite [5].
"To much fructose is toxic to the liver."
Do you now mix up refined sugar with whole fruit? Do you have studies showing whole fruit is bad for the liver?
"Common sense dictates that we’re not designed to be vegan."
Should we now listen to the common sense of a guy that does not cite any evidence for his claims or should we listen to scientific evidence such as systematic reviews?
[1-5] Links in a separate reply, because TH-cam can shadow censor some comments with links.
[1] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31067015
[2] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/495550
[3] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5506108/
[4] www.newscientist.com/article/mg21428680-900-lucky-accidents-of-human-evolution-switch-to-starch/
[5] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28446499
Yep the thousands of people who loss hundreds of pounds are wrong. The fact that those people are no longer obese means nothing...they should all be vegans...my aunt and uncle were type 2 diabetics since starting Keto 2 years ago they not only loss 80 and 110 pounds but they are no longer diabetics. But hey let's tell them to go vegan right?...we are all different. BTW here is a study that states the opposite of your cherry picked study. The keto group saw an increase in lean body mass...
www.google.com/amp/s/www.boxrox.com/the-ketogenic-diet-and-crossfit-performance/amp/
Tufano is going to have a tantrum
Get ready for more completely misrepresented science
Leonardo Da Vinci
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So is Dr Berg.
These people are like Trump voterz a faith based initiative--impervious to facts.
Golden Knight Libs do believe a lot of crazy shit but come on, y’all are like on another planet.
What does the Keto do to your heart, liver, kidneys and the rest of your stomach’s dedicated followers? In the last 14 years that I switched to vegetarian my cancer tumours just faded away, whereas my younger brother has been on and Atkins now even longer and has had, amongst other things, to have his heart stopped and restarted twice, and in the last year has had to wear a walk around monitor several times. Now this is only anecdotal, but I will add that I saw my grandfather, my father, and my two older brothers also succumb to cancer. Which is why it’s not just anecdotal to me.
So you are trying to tell me your family only follows the extremes of eating, either vegetarian= you, or the rest= atkins.
I call bullshit.
Stop with the hyperbole.
My vegan grandparents succumbed to dementia and Alzheimer’s. Albeit their hearts were fine. Could never follow in their tofu and beans madness.
I’m no expert, but I know it is misleading to point out the loss in muscle mass. From my understanding, this loss is a temporary reduction in glycogen stores and water mass in the muscles. It’s not a loss of actual muscle fibers.
Jakob Davenport - Nice theory, but...’Body composition changes were measured by dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry’.
@@megavegan5791 That's probably extremely accurate, I realize that. I'm only calling into question the assumptions of his evaluation of the experiment. Does lower muscle mass truly mean that strength has been permanently lost? This, and the other point people have been bringing up in the comments, that ketosis takes a while to start up on a keto diet, leaves me still unable to rule out the keto diet as a potentially healthy option.
Please show me one life long low carb/ keto person who has healthy blood work. I have a feeling I may be waiting for a while.
Eskimos spend their whole life in keto. They have seriously good life expectancy considering their uncivilized life and no access to health care.
And diabetis and cardiac problems are unheard in them.
@@lockhrt999 Show me your studies showing that Eskimos have a superior life expectancy without any disease. Also please provide evidence that they are in a state of constant ketosis. Thanks
@@CantEscapeFlorida When are you going to stop messing around and just go vegan already?
@@lockhrt999 valid point. Until it was totally debunked by actual science.
nutritionfacts.org/2018/07/12/the-eskimo-myth/
Excellent video. Kevin Bass is also doing a thorough debunk of low-carb claims on his website at "Nutritional Revolution". The only reason people lose weight on Keto is because they cut calories. It's really that simple. And.. it doesn't work for many people too. I wish they weren't so zealous about it. Lots of former low-carbers have moved on to more reasonable approaches to weight loss that works for them.
I love Kevin Bass, but I eat exclusively bacon and butter, and i eat SO MUCH ribeye, 6-7lbs at a time, and I reversed stage 8 cancer and lost 187 lbs, and also cured my depression and skin issues! No case study was written, just this comment. Kevin Bass must be biased!
It's easier to cut calories when fat is high, proteins adequate and simple carbs are low. The low carb diet keeps blood glucose stable. It works for me.
Tine P - There would be no arguments if the Keto experts would just say ‘Keto keeps you satiated longer, which helps you lower your caloric intake and lose weight’. No, they have to go down the road of ‘carbs make you fat’ and ‘cholesterol doesn’t cause heart disease.’
I´ve got so sick on one month ketogenic diet, and ruined my health ,recovery lasted me a year or so..I was using the best virgin oils,organic nuts and seeds,as much greens as I could fit into low carb intake, didnt lose any weight except water weight first week..Would not recommend to anyone.
Keto vanishes the appettie and people love it
Funny to think how i started out as a vegan about 4 years ago (nolonger) to now I can not stand videos about diet or food. This video was in my suggestion and I immediately felt irritated. I’m so sick of the contractions around it’s and food , who’s right, who’s wrong that i literally gave up being a vegan. It’s literally too much. Who knew eating could become so dam complicated
I would love to see studies on vegan keto diets.
restricting carbos in VD is nonsense, every legume has carbos, you'll end eating seitan + veggies
@@rodrigoreparaz1813 Veggie meat plus veggies, yes. A number of fibrous vegetables are very low in carbs.
I'm not a vegan but I would also be interested, most of the bad stuff about the keto diet is the bad fats, but 18/6 hour fasting on a vegan diet might have interesting benefits.
Nobody wants to eat nuts and oil all day lol
@@turdturret39 Was instead thinking low carb veggies, tofu, veggie meat, etc
For all the Keto PhDs in the comments arguing that the study participants weren't given enough time to get into ketosis, you should know that they tested for respiratory quotient; all the participants were 'fat-adapted' after the 1st week of switching to the keto phase of the study.
You know, I'm not a vegetarian/vegan, and I have a lot (far too many) of friends on the keto diet. They all want me to join 'cause it's so great... and in some ways I feel like go ahead it's your body, but it's always looked like an eating disorder to me. Hopefully some keep doing research from sources other than their favorite circles.
I like 'Eat whole foods, not too much, mostly vegetables'. Just makes more sense to me. Thanks for the video.
That's exactly what the ketogenic lifestyle is. You just described it. 8 cups of vegetables a day, less than 50 carbs, the rest fat and low-moderate protein. That's the cleanest you can get. No one is telling you to chug down oil and eat cheeseburgers 3 meals a day.
@@mikelattens3180 you mean dead animals and liquids from their body, why not call it for what it is? I also say I'm eating rice and beans, I don't say I'm eating "carbs".
@@ImprovingAbility Your argument of "dead animals and liquids" is something that every vegan throws their virtual flag upon, claiming victory. What is all that you consume made out of? Dead plant material. If you want to take the moral high ground, consider first taking a look at what allows for the sustenance of 8 billion people on this planet. Everything you consume, unless you are composting and growing EVERYTHING at your own ability, is made out of the remnants of animal tissue, fat - carcasses in general.
As for why not calling it for what it is: I personally consume (at least) 80% of my intake from plant-based sources such as MCT oil, olive oil, 6+ cups of vegetables a day, DHA/EPA from algae, low-glycemic fruits and my fair share of almond milks, coconut milks, and their respective flours.
Find a better argument. Would you say the equivalent to Inuit tribes that live in the far North America parts of the world that also happen to consume 80%+ of their food through "dead animals and liquids"? I wonder what they would eat if they got on the same high horse that you sit upon.
Michael Stolarz pretty sure he was taking the scientific intellectual high ground since he pointed out two things that negatively impact your health.
Lewis Blanchard they give animals all those supplements as well. Fortified food takes care if those no problem. While not clogging your arteries or causing diabetes
Finally some clarity on this matter!
Jones - exactly! 👏🤡I love when he “puts it to the test” AKA, gives us his opinion on the matter! 🥼🤡(he doesn’t ever “test” anything, which is actually quite brilliant! just GIVE us the clarity, and move on!)
@@charathcutestory he gave his opinion on nothing, he literally just read straight test results and data from actual studies, which is a lot more credible than using clown emojis to get his point across 🤡🤡
Sorry, Doctor, but I stopped eating carbs and started eating lots of saturated fats, and guess what? I lost heaps of body fat. I gave up my vegan diet, which had kept me obese for years. Also, as a T2 diabetic, I now have the HbA1c percentage of a non-diabetic.
BOOM! This is 24K Solid Gold, could not wait to share it with all my friends who think Keto is the way because they have been misled by those trying to profit from it.
@goggles789 Keto Books, Keto Diet Plans, Keto phone consults, Keto Channels, Keto Supplements, Keto Membership Clubs "Keto Club", "Ketokrate", "Hip2keto", "Kissmyketo"...
@@cytwc I'm most interested in the long term consequences of not secreting adequate insulin as the evidence I've seen shows it's as damaging as having raised/high spikes all the time. Keto is basically a starvation diet because long term it completely tanks your metabolism so you end up eating only several hundred cals a day just to not get fat.
@Youarewhatyoueat Smoking too has been around for 1000s of years.. I love that appeal to the past argument. Are you seriously suggesting we are of similar intelligence to humans 1000s of years ago who knew nothing whatsoever & lived lifespans half as long as ours?
@Youarewhatyoueat th-cam.com/video/VX4fkXneRz0/w-d-xo.html
Of course that was a stupid study. 4 weeks only? That's just foolish. But the real issue is looking at weight loss at all. A keto diet is about the correct fuel to heal damaged cells. Weight loss is a positive side benefit once the inflammation is down, and organs are healed. Keto is not "highest fat," it is supposed to be fat appropriate for your activity level. Fat can go up and down, with protein sparing. Yes, carbs stay low. 4 weeks though, is not sensible. People are sick, it takes months to years to see health improve. "Forced into fat burning," is very misleading to say. We are lucky the human body can switch back and forth, however, burning carbs and alcohol are first priority because of the damage they do to the body. As we all know, each of us has a different level of damage tolerance. There are so many better keto studies out there. Let's see what you mention in the next episode.
Have a debate with Dr. eric berg, i would love that!
I would too
I trust this guy a bit more, and I happen to like Dr Berg a lot.
Yes, I'd love to see those two butt heads. I also trust Dr. Greger more, as Dr. Berg typically does not back up what he's saying about the dangers of eating grains/carbs with scientific data as Dr. Greger does.
Eric Berg just likes to sell his supplements.
After years of passive silence , Dr. Greger has gone head first on Keto. I'm glad he's made videos on correcting people and educating them on this keto fad ! Officially through the videos, specifically!!!!!
@@CantEscapeFlorida Are you a pro-keto promoter ? Or a vegan ?
Fad?
They have been studying Keto for double the time of veganism.
Yet another muppet that only listens to the preacher rather than studying what is said.
@@takeoffyourblinkers then explain what's wrong with the way he explains this video? Use evidence to support your claims. There are heaps of evidence that prove increase of fat causes increase in all cause mortality. Must I link?
@@jannlucilleloncio2739 Keto involves consuming fats at large.
Almost all antioxidants and cancer preventive compounds are from plants.
Losing weight does not equate to being healthy just by that analogy.
Fasting can grant you more benefits and you can still lose weight with plenty of AMPK activity and inhibition of NF-κβ and TNF-α.
I'm not saying on what should you be eating and what not. I expressed what I felt like.
You lost weight because your Apo-E gene facilitated it. Those with slight modifications in that gene can bring serious consequences to you if you're either on just high carb or high fat diets.
Plant based diets are safe.
There's a great video on TH-cam by some Dr. On Apo-E and has a book by that same term.
All the best.
@@jannlucilleloncio2739 I just don't you why did you come here and comment on my thread and ask me silly questions and then say if it suits me then I should have it.
I didn't ask you to troll me, can you get a grip of your life ?
For the record on Gary Taubes:
Gary Taubes set up a million dollar research to prove his theories on fat. It was hilarious because the end results were the scientific evidence concluded that his theory on fat was wrong. But then Gary Taubes blamed the scientists (that he hired) that they did the research wrong.
REFERENCES: Out of Gary Taubes' own mouth himself on the Joe Rogan Debate:
Joe Rogan Experience #1267 - Gary Taubes & Stephan Guyenet
A.I. - Vegan doctors are MUCH smarter than him, especially when they use the refrain “intra-myocellar-lipids”!
after they say that term, the debate is over and the vegans have won!
It's hilarious 😂. Oh Gary... How can you be upset about & blame the methods used in a study, when you're the one who approved those methods to begin with?
@@sonja4164 Hey, at least we have a million dollar independent unbiased research from Gary Taubes. He hired the Scientists himself to prevent biased research. He then gave the tick of approval to go ahead with the research. And then he was proven wrong. Thank you Gary :)
Of course the latest piece of research does actually support Gary's thesus , but that was when a real scientist LUSTIG as opposed to Hall did it . Oops
@@amandaatkins4771 but how exactly did he do it? Is it even reliable to believe? Did he figure out a way to fake it? At the end of the day its still likely a biased study
It should be noted, however, that Johns Hopkins University did find that the ketogenic diet was amazingly good for people suffering from severe epilepsy. That doesn't apply to everyone, I know, but it is still worth knowing.
Yes Dr. G addressed that in a previous video. The diet is a medical therapy, not a weight loss regimen.
Yes you are absolutely right sir. !!!
It should be noted that even for epilepsy the keto side effects were horrendous. But when you are between the epileptic rock and the longer term heart disease hard place....
amputation is good for people with gangrene. doesn't apply to everyone, but it is still worth knowing, isn't it? i'm sure it can be used for weight loss somehow
Thank you Dr. Gregor for setting me straight! I have been doing keto for 3 months, and the scale told me I have lost about 30 pounds. But now that I have watched your video, with all of your helpful stats, facts, and words, I realize the scale has lied to me! Keep up the great work. :/
Soy boys hate the keto weight loss revolution, filling the cath lab one success story at a time. Thanks Gary Taubes, brave pioneer of revisionist history and revisionist science journalism.
"But I feel good..."
lol. Yep. They all do at first. The dude at my local health food store just quit keto as he said he saw the same thing happening to him. His fat loss actually slowed and he began to lose muscle.
Theres actually a thing kalled keto flu.
You can feel dizziness, headaches, loss of sleep, argivation, concentration problems. So messed up.
Yeah eating a ton of saturated fat and listening to Jimmy Moores advice on how to be healthy never did quite seem like a great idea.
Like it or not but there is 0% since proving saturated fat is bad. Only some epidemiological studies. So please prove first scientifically but not religiously.
@@AnHeC science evidence? or you're not able to distinguish between pool and real science?
Exactly😂
@@AnHeC why is eating what you're made of delusional? We are not made of smoke, we're are mostly fat, protein and water. Get a better comparison next time.
Very helpful, thank you.
Now I am sure you realize that the Atkins Diet and the Ketogenic diet are 2 different things. Whereas Atkins is protein based, Keto is Fat based. 30 days is really not a long term look nor a good test of the diet. Too many people who have been on keto for more than a year tell a completely different story. Please come with a long term experiment.
It's a bit disappointing to see a respected guy like yourself show a misleading experiment based on "science".
I am sorry to disagree here, I am a female in my late 70es who had been on a strict vegan diet for a long time but stopped because it made me sick. I developed joint pain, sagging crepe looking skin which was dry and sallow looking, fatigue, cholesterol going up instead of down, blood glucose shooting up and a general feeling of feeling unwell. I have been on a low carb diet for about 3 months now and haven’t felt that good in a very long time! My joint pain is pretty much gone, my skin has made a dramatic turnaround that even my husband asked me what I was doing! My cholesterol is coming down again and my glucose and A1c are back to normal again. I also don’t look anymore like death warmed over like a lot of vegans do and who just look gaunt, I also no longer believe anything what Mr. Gregor is saying because everyone is different, we are not cookie cutter humans where one mold fits all. Some people will do well on a vegan/vegetarian diet and others like myself do not and to say that a low carb diet will kill you is really dumb because everyone will die one day, nobody will live forever no matter what you eat!!!
think you did nail that not every human is the same. this is just, based on science, what he is recommending. it may not work for you and that's okay.
Interesting video. It's promoted as a fat loss diet; yet according to this study it's not really a good weight loss option. In a way it shows the body doesn't like being in a fat burning mode for very long.
I have always maintained that ketogenesis is just an evolutionary mechanism by which hominids survived temporary periods of extreme privation of optimal foods. I now think, after looking into vegan keto regimens, where a higher ratio of carbs can be eaten without suspending the ketogenic state, that even in extreme privation, hominids sought out small amounts of optimal foods to supplement their fat based diets until the optimal foods were abundantly available again. We're not built to constantly scavenge fatty tissue off of the carrion of an apex predator.
There has to more to this. So many people are reporting large amounts of weight loss, not just water and muscle, reversing diabetes, lower blood pressure, etc.
@Joseph1NJ there is, he’s just cherry picked some crap and ignored the rest. Do your own research, don’t listen to this quack
@Joseph1NJ A reason why some people appear to do well is that keto may be a great deal healthier than they were previously eating. Compared to the SAD, on keto a person is eating more vegetables ...maybe the most they've ever eaten[!], getting rid of processed food, and probably not overeating. All these things can make a big difference. And if they're healthier, great. However, a key question is what happens long term? While it's true that there are some positive anecdotes, they're generally short term. In all fairness, there are a lot of negative anecdotes as well, where biomarkers got worse, people felt bad, didn't lose weight, etc. Another concern is that a blood work numbers aren't always indicative of presence/ absence of disease. Thin doesn't necessarily equal healthy. I can't remember the %, but a disturbingly high % of people with heart disease don't know until their first heart attack, and a % of those don't survive. That scares me. Personally, I'm mostly vegan [I'll have some cookies or other junk with a small amount of milk or egg]. I feel that plant based is my best bet long term. I'm 50ish, so I don't choose to experiment for years. Be well : )
@@sharit7970 See, that's just it, the "science" is incomplete. I didn't want to speculate as to possible reasons why some do very well, but they're real, they exist, and science does not yet know why. Taubes and the rest are at best providing hypothesis, and he freely admits that. Obesity is a very complex issue. And until we have a better understanding of it, we shouldn't discount people's success. For them, the long struggle has finally provided results.
That's because there *IS* more to the this! ☺ going keto isn't just about weight loss.
@@mrblob5413 Satiety is of course a significant factor. Can food act like cocaine? Maybe. Does it stimulate serotonin and dopamine receptors in the same way? And to what extent is that controllable? How does that effect vary from individual to individual.
Science does not explain why keto diets provide the satiety some are unable to achieve elsewhere. I say its much more than just will power or discipline. Taubes, a physicist, speculates that insulin, a fat storing hormone among its other functions, plays a key role here. And that metabolically, insulin responds differently in some to high fat/ low carb diets than we thought it did, and its NOT the same for everyone.
I say he has touched on just one of many, many factors. I personally would never go keto. But he asks an important scientific question, that is, why. Why does it work? What is it that we've been missing all of these years? Simply repeating the same old dogma from the last half century is no longer good enough. Science must continue to ask why. Just because we believe something to be true doesn't always means it is.
The misinformation campaign is turning up. I say do what give you RESULTS. If Keto is not for you then keep it moving. All I know is that Keto, IF and long term fasting are saving thousands of lives. The food industry, pharmaceutical industry and government are cranking out this to make their money.
People will believe what they want regardless of the info.
At last the truth is out hope it saves life’s 👍👍👍
I'm so hyped for all the keto dudes that will come here to discuss their diet and how this study was done wrong.
"They weren't given enough time to get into Ketosis! Whaaaaa!"
If I eat all plant/carb based, I lose weight. If I eat all meat/fat based, I lose weight. But I can never combine the 2 on any level. I truly believe the SAD has more to do with excess carbs and excess fat together. Each is diet challenging for me. In the end, I must choose the one that reverses heart disease, but I'm addicted to tri tip sandwiches. This is gonna be difficult no matter what I do.
@@CantEscapeFlorida no doubt keto works for weight loss but it loses more muscles as well which looks bad.
@Quack Watch out of bounds !
@@CantEscapeFlorida you clearly were eating too much then. Learn to count calories, you can't lose weight effectively if you don't know how to
I discovered this study a few months ago and used it to dunk on my low carb sisters-in-law who’s a nurse ... hire me Dr Gregor
I think mic the vegan talk about this study before. Many dislikes for that video.
Keto: when your gallbladder is working well and you’re unhappy with that.
Carbage Man
The gastrointestinal physician I saw told me the keto diet is a quick way to screw up your gallbladder. Diet plays a huge part in the health of that organ.
Carbage Man
So the National Institutes of Health is wrong also?
Carbage Man - Sure, the most common surgical procedure among U.S. women, I.e. the highest female BMI population on earth, is due to low fat consumption. Makes perfect sense.
@@CarbageMan The increase in obesity isn't because of a spike in cruciferous vegetable consumption either. Unless you're unscientifically lumping all carbs together, as Dr. Berg and others have done in an intellectually dishonest manner. There's a big difference between steel cut oats and refined sugar, but you wouldn't know it from reading your comment.
@@CantEscapeFlorida Talking about refined sugar is irrelevant to eating a whole food plant-based diet, though, just as refined oils is irrelevant as a criticism of the paleo diet. So what's your point?
isn't the muscle loss due to the water loss (muscle seems to be around 75% water)?
@@MrKobayashi24 thanks for the answer
i wonder why the carnivores are here watching a Plant Based diet channel.
Probably watching out for extremists legislation banning animal food. You know that’s what vegans want.
@@chrispines1510 that would be my dream legislation.
Susana Vegan Adopt a Cat it’s still not very American. I’d never force Christianity on the populace. Or atheism. Extremist.
@@chrispines1510 It's not the same. Take Animals for food industry is a crime.
Susana Vegan Adopt a Cat then go after the “industry”. Make the inevitable death of animals more humane. Guess you never watched the secret life of plants documentary. If plants can sense death, what validates your blender mutilating them up?
Fire
I've always argued that the keto diet makes no sense.
How could totally ignoring a 1/3rd of your macro nutrients, not eating fruits, but eating an unregulated amount of cheese and bacon help you lose weight?
Not to mention the fact that the only people who visibly have good results from this are typically bodybuilders who would have visibly positive results from any diet. Any time i've seen an average person try the keto diet they don't lose weight. They do eat a lot of cheese and bacon, though. haha.
Nothing personal to you Alyssa Steven's. It sounds like you do research and know how to regulate a healthy diet in general.
But I invite you to open up an app people popularly use for recipes, like Pinterest. Search the term keto. Maybe keto recipes, but nothing else. Count how many recipes include bacon & cheese. Not everyone is as regulated as you. Nothing personal, just the reality of fad diets.
Many iterations of the keto diet do not allow a majority of fruits. I've heard blueberries are ok in some but not others.
They also require many restrictions and the clarity on what is 'ok' and 'not ok' are is lacking as a whole.
When I say 'average person' I mean someone who does not have the time to commit serious research, as you have. Most who I have known to try the fad diet are working moms. They dont have time to workout. It doesnt work for them. That is who I consider the average person to use the system.
@@CantEscapeFlorida im sorry if you considered my opinion to be a personal attack but there is validity to what I'm saying in a way that applies to others, and I hope you and those who happen to see these comments can understand that. :)
@@CantEscapeFlorida lol, I dont think a healtht vegan diet is as accessible for the average person either.
@@CantEscapeFlorida good for you, Alyssa. As I said I'm sure you follow a healthy diet. But that doesnt mean everyone else who tries the keto diet gets the same information as you and is successful.
I've lost weight on Keto. I also practiced Intermittent Fasting.
Veggie keto: low carbs, low-moderate protein, moderate fat from good sources, heaps of vegetables.
Who pays this guy ? Follow the money
10 years on high carb, low fat, not oil. Still waiting to gain weight. I am lean as f..k and I eat tons of carbs daily with little to not exercise. Same my family on the same lifestyle. My cousins on the other end eating only animal products, cheese and eggs are fat and obese. They always look at me with envy but nobody wants to switch to my eating habits.
cant fix stupid bro, plant power !!!
This guy is a skeleton walking. He has no muscle and I bet if he took off his shirt he would be skinny fat. Sorry doc, but for most people who are already overweight carbs will block fat loss guaranteed. Even though this guys channel is called nutrition facts, it really should be called nutrition opinion. This guy is so plant-based biased it's obvious. As a personal trainer with 14 years of experience i can tell you that keto is the best diet for getting people to lose weight.
keto is great to get a reset after decades of damage done . for example to fix insulin resistance due to years of overeating and binging sugar .
weight loss is a bonus .
Keto makes insulin resistance much worse.
@@ethelchip3620 Lmao my fasting insulin has reduced by 28% in three months doing keto, and my fasting glucose has dropped from 101 to 86 in that same time frame. You don't know anything about insulin if you think a low-carb, high-fat diet makes insulin resistance worse. There are plenty of other things up for debate such as heart health, but it is irrefutable that keto helps insulin resistance and reverses type 2 diabetes when done properly, cleanly, and especially when mixed with intermittent fasting.
@Kevin yeah it seems like there’s a ton of research linking saturated fat consumption to insulin resistance. Google it for yourself. Keto diets are typically high in saturated fat.
The studies showing benefits are just short term because of weight loss.
I just did 6 months of Paleo/Keto and I did all the bloodworks and performance tests. They are perfect. Now I'm gonna do 6 months of vegan and see what happens
And? I'm very interested
What happend
How was it?
You don't think swinging from one extreme to the other is more of a psychiatric disorder? 😅
First off I follow a keto WOE and have lost 80lbs in a year in combination with intermittent fasting. I have followed vegan and vegetarian diets on the past with no success in terms of weight management. I was aware of the study you mentioned and the issues surrounding it. I would be interested to hear what you would suggest the mechanism is behind the fat loss people experience on a keto WOE is if it is not due to insulin model? As clearly something is going on which enables people to drop the stomach inches. Many thanks.
Same here Nick. I’m dropping pounds and inches since starting keto diet, even with a cheat meal on the weekends. I feel better, bacon, eggs and steak are delicious too.
Dont make things complicated, Way of Eating? Way of Life? lol
“I have followed vegan and vegetarian diets” that says absolutely nothing about what you actually ate
if you ate lots of cheese and other dairy products or processed carbs and lots of oil then no wonder you didn’t lose weight
The reason why you lost weight is because regardless of diet composition, calorie restriction works. Eating less of anything will make you lose weight.
It has been showed that certain diets fit better with certain people. And although I would argue that a keto diet isn't optimal for health, any diet that makes you lose significant weight (hence increasing every marker of health) and keeps you there (no rebound), is a diet you should stick to. One should try, however, to transition to a plant-based diet once his ideal weight achieved to see if he can make it work, health being achieved at this stage by improving food choices.
Congrats on the tremendous results. Hopefully they have continued. Don’t forget to monitor your serum lipids though and make sure you don’t fall prey to the “they don’t matter” crowd. They do matter, if you accept statistics as being valid.
Thanks so much again, Dr. Greger, for explaining all this so expertly!
Maureen K
he is truly an expert!
we must worship his interpretation of medical research, especially because other doctors may be incorrect!!!
charathcutestory that worshipping mentality is cancerous
@@kx7500 😂👍
I feel bad for those who fall for this keto trash, but... Come on, people, did you really think replacing the grain bun on a big and disgusting cheeseburger with a bun entirely made out of cheese and egg was gonna help you lose weight?
Not well designed study. The carb diet had 2x as much protein and wasn't really a "high carb" diet at all. The keto diet had not enough protein % and too high of fat %. It should have been designed to have the same amount of protein and then the carb and fat adjusted.
We have to start to debunk diets meant to gain financially instead of the betterment of our health!
@@CantEscapeFlorida It doesn't matter if its vegan or not. You will lose more musclemass on keto diet. Justä eat carbs, they even taste better than all that fat and you can eat much much more dor same amount of calories.
Quack Watch for who? Bacon companies? I know they have some keto snack bars now at the grocery store but it is like two kinds in a whole wall of protein bars.
I did keto carb and it worked and gave me many advantages and healed a lot of issues HOWVER! that doesn’t mean the king term effects are healthy. I have no regrets doing keto however I Prefer plant based. Keto is great to reverse medical conditions.
Good Video, I did keto for 3 months with my normal calories and lost 40lbs. Mostly body fat.....Energy levels were off the charts but I did mostly vegan fats from nuts, avocados etc.... Guess everyone is different
And many people think the Keto diet and the carnivore diet are one in the same. I eat more veggies on keto than I did before. I eat TONS of macadamian nuts, 1g+ of fat per nut
@@datsuntoyy Yeah, keto means you produce ketones, period. You don't have to eat a steak deep-fried in butter for every meal.
@@jb_1971 Now I'm hungry. Had to mention steak.
The Keto diet is absolute bullshit! Severely restricting carbohydrates is the stupidest thing you can do when dieting. Think about it, when it comes to losing fat ALL it comes down to is being in a caloric deficit. Exercise helps you create this deficit. Guess what fuels your workouts? CARBS! Anyone that follows a keto diet is simply ignorant but now I have informed you so do not do keto. Just eat less, exercise consistently, get enough protein, and make sure you are losing about a pound per week until you reach your goal weight.
Appreciate you, Dr. Greger! One of your vids made me quit Keto today. Have chosen the whole plant food way instead. Thanks for bringing forward the info. It was the vid with the info about breast cancer, petri dishes and blood samples. Oh my!!!!!
@Peter Rabitt Thanks for the recommendation!
McGregors videos are highly selective and outragiously twist scentific research. He did a video on a paper which 'proved' high carb vegan was great for treating diabeties. When I downloaded and read the actual paper it said the opposite, the low carb group had better blood suger and control! You cannot trust him or his videos. He has one viewpoint and a pile of books etc... to sell depends on it!
@@AnHeC diabetes is not reversed DUE to a high carb diet, it is reversed by a diet - reducing calories and thus improving insulin sensitivity by cutting body weight. This reenbles the body to process carbs. By definition diabetes is a disease in which the body cannot process carbs! A low carb diet has auch more dramatic effect despite the lies and spin of the vegans
@@AnHeC slandering someone isn't a good argument either, you're making the same mistake in the same comment
@@SlobberySlobtype 2 diabetes is not a disease, it's a physiological response to the stress produced by insulin spikes, that's why you reserve it, but can't actually cure it.
Don't be too hard on vegans or vegetarians, some of them are assertive enough to tell that keto is not only healthy, but also sustainable on the long term, as evidenced by people like Dr. Berg or Luis Villaseñor. My only problems are individuals like the man of these videos that point with the finger and lie about the so called "opposite side" that only creates conflicts between people that have the same goal: stay healthy.
Have some patience, they'll soon understand who's at their side.
I being in ketosis state by y accident since almost 6 years ago. All because I'm allergic to fruits and all plant based foods and fiber. How come I have lost a lot of fat and my muscles are bigger than before? My legs and butt are more thicker like never before and I don't even do that much exercise. People think that I am a weigh lifter, they ask me what do I do to look like this. I only tell them that I don't eat plant based foods. I eat a lot of eggs and meats. My doc says that my blood test is perfect just cholesterol is high but according to recent studies high cholesterol is not bad. My mom was diagnosed with liver cancer and I encourage her to start the keto, and guess what after 4 months her cancer was gone.
I like your work, I follow it for years and am pretty sure you are making most people healthier with you content.
BUT
2 questions:
1) you seem to have an obsession about animal products. You never seem to see any good reason to consume them and they are supposed to be the worse evil (right after processed food). But when we look at the Blue zones (where people live the healthiest and the longest) although they eat little animal products, they do still consume a little bit... so I wonder if there is not another reason for being so decisive on things like organic grass fed beef or wild caught salmon...
2) regarding the low carb diets, it’s interesting to note that there 1 million ways to be low carb... you can even have quite a bit of fiber and eat a lot of vegetables on that kind of diet. You seem to not go into the details there and talk about low carbs in general which can mean pretty much anything. Just like you can have a very unhealthy vegan diet... because... fries... are vegan... beer... is vegan... so you don’t talk about vegan diets, you talk about « whole food plant based » and I get that. But what about an « organic whole food plant rich low carb » diet? 😉
Still love your content though but I can’t help myself to feel that there is maybe one other thing that is guiding part of the argumentation
You love the content because Greger has an engaging style, and something tells you plants "must" be healthy. The reason Greger isn't addressing your questions is that Greger is intellectually dishonest. He makes a living promoting plant based diets. Promoting plant based diets is the "product" he's selling. He looks for research to support his product all the time, research he can cite in these videos, which are essentially advertisements. You're as likely to hear Greger talk about the downsides of plants, or the benefits of animals, as you are to hear a Ford commercial touting the greatness of Audi's. Do you think Greger never comes across anything positive or neutral about animal foods? Once you face that one simple realization, you're ready to pull back the curtain and see Greger as the fraud pretending to be the wizard.
Yes, the diets that contribute to longevity ... this is a very complex topic. The answer is clearly not that plant based diets are the healthiest.
Obviously, there's nothing especially healthy about plant based foods. They are almost completely devoid of a number of crucial nutrients. Vitamin B12 and D are the two best known examples. Try being healthy without Vitamin D ... I dare you. According to a recent study in Israel, people with vitamin D levels below 30 ng/ml were 95% more likely to be hospitalized for covid-19. Another study from Indonesia found that about 99% of patients who died of covid-19 had vitamin D levels lower than 20 ng/ml. Yet, vitamin D is virtually absent from plant based foods. Also, keep in mind that you can "correct" a vitamin deficiency by supplementing. However, it's very likely that you'll retain permanent damage, for instance, genetic damage.
Here's a simple two question private study you can run. Whenever someone tells you they're a vegan, ask them if they have a problem with vitamin D deficiency. (Answer is always: Yes, or, I don't know.) Whenever someone tells you they've had a vitamin D deficiency, ask if they are or were a vegan. (Answer is always: Yes.)
Why isn't Greger talking about this? ... Why is he talking instead about bizarre claims about animal foods, which almost everyone eats without experiencing his scenarios, while ignoring a mountain of research contradicting him?
Because he's a fraud.
And I'm just getting started. What about vitamin K2? The research is stunning on how important this is for health. And what about the omega-3 fatty acid DHA, that people commonly associate with fish oil? DHA is the basic animal form of omega-3 fat. Plants have their own omega-3, which is different. This mismatch means your body has to struggle to convert plant based omega-3, from sources like flax seeds, to the form our bodies use.
Note that your brain is about 2/3 fat, and about 1/6 of your brain by weight is pure DHA. Try getting your brain to work right, when it doesn't have the most important nutrient it needs. In fact, studies have found cognitive impairment among vegans. Gee, I wonder why?
The problem with DHA is the problem with a lot of plant based nutrients. Since plant biology is radically different from animal biology, many of the nutrients from plants are in the wrong form for animals. Humans don't have all of the enzymes necessary for complete and efficient conversion. Why? Because we're obviously not herbivores. Humans have eaten animal food throughout all human history in every part of the world and in prehistoric times as well. We're somewhat adapted to survive by supplementing with plants
Like I said, I'm just getting started. But don't let me stop you if you like the sound of Greger's voice and think, I want to be a vegan, don't let me stop you. Just make sure you only listen to Greger from that time forward. You won't want to know what's in the 99% of the research literature that he won't talk about.
@@rockysmitt "The answer is clearly not that plant based diets are the healthiest." No, in fact, the research is very clear that diets dominated by WHOLE plant foods (vegan or very low in animal foods) are healthiest.
"Obviously, there's nothing especially healthy about plant based foods." Speaking as someone who researches and teaches nutrition, we professors are obviously failing to reach enough people. Plant foods have hundreds of phytonutrients animal foods lack. On average, plant foods have 64 TIMES as much antioxidant punch as animal foods (and oxidative stress is a common mechanism of most chronic diseases). Plant foods boost your body's ability to de-toxify air pollution, repair damaged DNA, produce CoQ10, fight cancer (garlic appears to be the best, but many in the cruciferous and allium families yield impressive results), reduce inflammation, etc.
K2? Someone eating enough greens gets so much extra K1 they have plenty to covert to K2. Fats? Some of the healthiest and longest lived populations ate less than 10% of calories from fat, and while there is some reason to believe vegans should maybe take a vegan EPA/DHA supplement, many omnivores are low and that and need B12 supplementation too.
But Olivier asked a sincere question: he's right Greger doesn't address often the possibility that eating animal foods might be beneficial 3-10 times a month--and it might be helpful even for some people even who eat a well-balanced vegan diet otherwise. There's just not much research that is that nuanced to provide fodder for videos and podcasts.
" Humans have eaten animal food throughout all human history in every part of the world and in prehistoric times as well." Humans have also eaten plants throughout our history and they have often been the main source of calories and nutrients--including for some remaining hunter-gatherer tribes.
@@rockysmitt Isn't vitamin D something the body makes from sunlight? Isn't it B12 and iron which cause deficiency health issues in vegetarians?
So much garbage......
Really???? The body store far for reserve energy to be use during starvation ( fasting or low insulin levels)
But when this happens, the body just start to use the muscle as a spires of fuel and not the the stored fat????
It totally ridiculous.
LOVE this video. * NOW WITH THIS VIDEO i FINALLY KNOW THAT FOR MANY THIS KETO DIET DOES NOT WORK* I didn't lose weight on Keto..... I did it diligently for several months. I ate "uber" healthy counted net carb grams(( carbs - fiber)). Also tried counting EVERY single carb gram - regardless of dietary fiber - which is even less carbs. My fats never came from TransFats no canola oil, or refined oils((=oils processed by means of over-processing and very high heat)) ect. I ate a variety of avocados, coconuts, nuts & seeds, olives. No weight loss, and struggled to not gain weight - shockingly NOT the diet for me. Since stopping Keto, I am now losing weight again. Yeah! :-)
Your life must be so sad, calculating and punching numbers for everything that you intake.
Maybe that was your problem. Also weight loss shouldn't be the goal, how long did you do it for?
What fat were you losing that you couldn't see? ie fat around your organs.
Me, I dropped my carbs in food, no measuring, and inflammation went in three days. I even kept by daily beer habit to make sure it was my dietary food that made the difference.
See how simple it is to find a winner.
@goggles789
Countless others btw.
Better yet, check your thyroid, or cortisol, estrogen levels that affects the fat loss. I did ketogenic diet for 1 year and it's effective. And healthy
Intermittent fasting works very well with KETO. I do body pump and am having no problem putting on muscle mass.
Keto while vegan is not good... Your fat must be mostly animal fat.
Seeds make you gain weight and disrupt the omega3 levels in your body creating inflammation. If you think about it, it wouldn't be possible for you to be a caveman and walk hundreds of miles to find all of these seeds and thousands of miles during winter... So it had to be meat, that is the body system you were issued.
I have lost 110 pounds of weight in 8 months on keto diet.
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The problem everyone is looking for a miracle and there isn't one; lowering calories works, vegan works, lowering carbs works, intermittent fasting works. If you change the way you eat you will see results because the body is adjusting to the change. Personally as a vegetarian I believe that lowering carbs works because it worked for me. As a vegetarian we get in the habit of eating a lot of grains, pastas, etc... This can make vegetarians gain weight. In the low carb diet I ate a lot of fresh veggies ditched the rice, pasta, bread, sugar and upped my fats from avocados, grass fed butter, some nuts but didn't over do it. I also increased my exercise and did intermittent fasting (I didn't eat at night)This was something I could do as a new lifestyle not just short term. My suggestion is: stop looking for a miracle and put in the effort to change what made you unhealthy to begin with. Make sure that you go to the Dr on a regular basis to make sure you are on the right track for your body.
If you are vegetarian for concern for animal wellbeing, and not wanting to participate in needless animal death, then you should also be aware that millions of baby male chicks and calves are killed in the egg and dairy industry, and all animals in those industries end up in the slaughterhouse hanging upside down choking on their own blood as they die. Choosing plant milk instead of dairy milk is such an easy thing to do. There are nice vegan cheese like Violife Cheddar. Ben and Jerry's have nice vegan ice cream. Even though processed vegan foods aren't the most healthy, if you do want to treat yourself and enjoy some of those products, they are most definitely healthier than animal products. I have a "Dairy" playlist on my channel playlists if you are interested to learn more of the health risks with dairy.
@@ethicalrevolution3294 Agreed. I don't want to shame people for only being vegetarian, as any step towards more veg positivity should be welcomed by the community. But citing ethical reasons and only being vegetarian does suggest perhaps some incomplete info.
I had fatty liver before and when i started the keto diet it reversed it. I still believe the keto diet is great to do because i lost 70 pounds in 8 months with it, but again everyone's body works differently, so you do whats best for you. And for anyone whos health suffered from keto, all i can say is you didn't do it right, eating heavy amounts of bacon and cheese is not a good idea. I had bacon rarely and used other healthier unprocessed sources of fat.
Keto is good for short term. It is a diet for survival mode. Fatty liver is also reversed when you go 3 day or more water fasting. In the survival mode your body burns ketones and fatty liver is reversed.
Thousands of people have reversed their type 2 diabetes, cholesterol, high blood pressure, PCOS, infertility...the list goes on...by going on a low carbohydrate diet. Cutting out sugar and grains is the healthiest thing you can do for yourself.
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*BURN* keto *BURN*
Brace yourselves, subscribers . . . . .
Keto is King said dr Berg
I was on the keto diet for 10 months we went on vacation and I went off of the diet for the past 2 months What I learned while I was on the keto diet is my health improved quickly to the point where I had to lower my meds in the first 2 month blood pressure medications and diabetic meds I lost 55lbs in the first 3months which was great but at the same time freaked me out so I maintained that weight for the next 3 months then I lost anothe 20lbs over the last 4 months also while on the keto diet my choleterol levels got normal and my triglycerides dropped from 290 down to 160 when I went on vacation in July and started to eat a high carb diet all my cholesterol levels went back to where they were the previous year before I started the keto diet plus my a1c levels went up from 4.3 to 5.0 A1C levels are a measure of sugar in the blood 5.0 is still a good number but my cholesterol and triglycerides went back to the unhealthy levels. So needless to say at the beginning of September I went back on the keto diet. I am doing the keto diet for health reasons as well as losing weight and I don't buy any of their products except nutrition yeast which I happen to like on my daily salad. You guys can bash this diet any way you like I tried all the other diets the diabetic diet the heart association diet the diets the doctors told to follow and none of these worked but I got healthy on the keto diet and that's all that matters to me.
Watching this while eating my super delicious dinner that is about 90% carbs.... 😄
This information can't come fast enough. Everyone I talk to who is trying to lose weight, universally say, "I'm cutting carbs". It will be fun watching the keto craze die out.
@michael plemel 🤣 Yeah I botched that one pretty good. I guess that's what happens when you comment on the run. My bad, better luck next time. Thanks for pointing that out. 😁👍
@Youarewhatyoueat the way people on the keto diet or paleo diet eat is tremendously different. The style of eating that paleo biologist are maybe discovering dies out already. Last I checked they are not finding people from millions of years ago downing dairy, oil, processed meat, processed foods in general, and all other processed keto or paleo foods. The keto diet is a joke and will be 100% proven so in due time.
@Youarewhatyoueat all processed foods are bad. But if you want a side by side comparison of a whole food plant based diet and a keto diet, the whole food plant based diet will easily dominate it for best diet for longevity, disease reversal, disease prevention, and micronutrient content. There is no comparison really, whole food plant based diet is far superior than the keto diet.
People clearly lose weight (fat) on these ketogenic/low carb diets
diabetic client: Help! my faucet has no hot water flow.
keto plumber: Just use cold water.
diabetic client: OMG It worked! Thank you!!
so basically you may lose weight but you'll just die from atherosclerosis years later
This study said not a single word about atherosclerosis. But yeah, probably ;-)
You lose muscle glucogen, then you lose fat and if you go back to your previous eating habits you probably gain the weight back.
Everyone here that loves this study is just happy they can go back to eating what their body is craving... sugar
Explain me how your body "craving" sugar ? 😂
If the fat and protein ate esential and you NEED to eat them and Sugar is NOT esential and your body cant making it alone?
@@saqaromane2205 I have no idea what you're saying bro
@@fspipe10 becuse you are vegan and you donr care about science and reality 😃
Easy: yoh need to eat FAT and PROTEIN. Your body can not make it alone.
Your body can make glucose alone and you dont need to eat sugar = fat/protein are important. Sugar is not important.
@@saqaromane2205 who said I'm vegan? I don't think you understood my original comment
@@fspipe10 if it was ironic or sarcasm than I understand. (Im not american and english is my 3rd Language)
Keto diet works. I’ve tried it first hand. This video is misleading
I'm not a vegan i've been diagnosed with prediabetes, after that i decreased my carbs heavily , and tried to eat enough to build muscle, it turned out it's an impossible task ! Without carbs there is NO muscle !
You have to have energy to lift, therefor building muscle.
Hahaha without PROTEIN there are no muscle. There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate!
@@karinet7952 Yes, there is, it's called glucose and it's the only thing your body runs on. The only thing. That's why your body converts protein and fat into glucose. It can't use them directly as energy. Look up the Krebs Cycle. It explains everything.
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lol the term essential means your body has obtain from external source your liver can make all the glucose you need with out an external source.
@@bobmonk388 Ah, so why have I been eating all this food all my life? Damn, I wish someone had told me all this sooner! I could have saved all this grocery money and bought a house! Shoot, I am gonna save so much time and money now! Thanks!!
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Considering that Dr Greger is opposed to any vegan diet that really makes you the troll doesn't it? Just saying.
@@coolchicken8439 Greger is not "opposed to any vegan diet".
@@coolchicken8439 go get a dictionary mate
@goggles789 you sound like a fool, really
😂😂😂Dude, it's like flies on shit in here with these keto dimwits.
Triggered keto hate in 3, 2, 1....
@@LaurenBurger human cells literally run on carbohydrates and you claim a diet that forces them to run on something else is "truth"
Eating fat doesn't make you fat. Eating sugar makes you fat and carbs are sugar.
Carbs become in glucose after spent energy to break them down. But it's that easy, there is fiber too. And as a plus you can get vitamins and minerals... I don't understand why the people follow extremes diet, just eat a balance diet
@@user-we6wi3rn1l You are mis informed. Fat only makes you fat if you are tanking down the carbs. Cut the carbs and increase the fat to lose weight, reduce inflammation, lower blood pressure, lower a1c, reduce joint pain,, increase energy. How do I know? I did it.
Lmao I didnt have 134 pounds of muscle and water to lose, but so far I am down 134 pounds easily with keto. 1st month is mostly water, but then you switch to full fat burning.
1. lmao how do you know how much muscle and water you had? did you measure it?
2. lmao is it better if you lost only 1.34 pounds of muscle ? why lose any muscle at all?
3. lmao your full fat burning ended after 1st month
4. lmao this guy did much better than you and (surprise) he wasn't eating any fat en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus_Barbieri%27s_fast
@@SergePavlovsky 1. Well I am a 5 foot tall female so unless I'm hiding a body builder under my skin I can be pretty sure there wasn't 134 pounds of muscle on my whole body, period.
2. I've lost zero noticeable muscle. My calves look like a body builders, Nice and Muscular. I'm just as strong as I ever was. (faster, healthier, more energetic)
3. My fat burning has been ongoing for 2 yrs. (fat burning starts after the 1st month genius, it doesn't end there)
4. I highly doubt it. ( I lost 134 pounds and 25 medically diagnoses disease including incurable blood cancer" and I'm still going strong on a full, never hungry tummy without a single day in a gym) Plus I help thousands of others do the same! (free)
5. I think, that you think, that you are.... smarter than you really are.
@@KETODiamond 1 you are confusing past with present and muscle+water with muscle
2. so you didn't measure it. everyone will be faster without 134 pounds
3. full fat burning stops when you start adding fat via diet. btw, what were burned during 1st month if not fat? brain? it's mostly fat
4. you doubt that 276 is larger than 134?
5. wrong again. i think that i'm exactly as smart as i am
Just try the dam diet for yourself and then give us your opinion.
IMHO keto is more low carb than high fat
Low carb is high fat automatically, unless the diet is too low in calories. Low fat and low carb would be hunger or starvation
True keto is supposed to be low protein to to avoid stimulating insulin, so it has to be high fat.
Your personal version may be. The purest form of keto is a lot of meat, a lot of fat, a bit of protein, hardly any carb. A healthy diet on the other hand includes lots of fiber, which means a variety of vegetables, beans and nuts. What the two have in common: get rid of processed carbs (white bread, chips, sweets, sugary drinks etc.)