i think that one topic that gets overlooked in fashion is hair. hair adds such a unique flair to someone’s character and you could definitely categorize different styles into trendy vs non trendy styles.
@@TS-er2jc bald can be part of the look too, I really dislike it when people share their fit pics but cut out their head, because you "wear" your hair as much as you wear anything else, it's part of the look so don't edit it out
I feel like anything is timeless if it's your personal style. Regardless of what the actual garment is, if its part of your aesthetic, it can never go out of style because you dictate what that means. The way companies sell trends is largely for the people who havent or dont want to develop a personal style (which is also a valid way of dressing)
i agree with dressing your style being timeless, also dressing to fit your body type is timeless, for example, a bigger dude will always look better with wider pants than skinny jeans even if wide pants are currently a trend. another example would be a shorter dude will always look good in a more cropped sweater as it improves their proportions, even though cropped sweaters are really trendy right now
It's interesting to me to see how different our perceptions can be between one another. I literally don't understand how peoples preferences can blur with trends. I like what I like, trends are completely disconnected from whether I like it or not. I am a lover of collared lantern blouses, slim fit pants, golden jewelery, and elaborate bowties whether or not it's in fashion. The only way I think I'd be influenced is subconsciously in what I see, and more directly in just whats available to buy.
For me thats also really difficult sometimes. I mean i like what I like and I know what I like, but sometimes I see my preferences change. I think being exposed to trends in this world today where you repeatedly see the same Item again and again, even if you wouldn't naturally feel drawn to it, over time your eye gets used to it and you might actually think "ah this doesn't look as bad as I thought after all." And then you might start liking it. I dont like to think that I like things just because the majority likes it and there for it is a safe way to go, but I do like to consider if there might actually could be a profound aesthetical value found in current trends. After all why do so mamy ppl like it? But as I already said it might just be that way because everybody likes it, that everybody likes it and it just accumulates that way. Anyhow beauty can be found in everything
i think an important thing that often gets overlooked when it comes to timeless vs trendy is quality of material. when you consider cotton, linen, wool, cashmere, silk etc., items made from such materials are automatically more timeless because of their durability (in my opinion)
silk really isnt timeless, especially because it is so hard to take care of for the normal person. I am talking of experience... I love my silk turtleneck or silk scarf and silk-tie. Also Viscose or other new materials are just more sustainable and easier to maintain :D If I am wrong please tell me ^.^
I think being “timeless” is a trend right now. Specially in the sneaker world i see shift towards simple colorways, like white and creme, instead of multicolored sneakers like many of the SB Dunks that was extremely popular just a little while ago
For sure. I don't know about everyone participating in fashion rn, but as a young professional in my early 20s, I'm not interested in acquiring too many flashy pieces that I will never learn to style or will stop caring for in a year or two when the winds change. I've definitely learned into brown and cream as a result, as they're such great shades (especially against my brown skin) and will continue to combine well with timeless colors forever.
hopefully the love for timeless pieces will stay trendy! that might eventually decrease the amounts of shitty quality clothes that go straight into landfills
This is facts bro I’ve been saying this for years. We’ve moved so much from regularity that we’re moving right back into it. It’s redundant but, there is beauty in that I guess. The possibility of a new birth of originality in the fashion industry
I think wide/relaxed fits are timeless because we cycle between liking skinny/slim fit and more relaxed stuff. It's not always what people want at the moment, but relaxed fits always come back eventually
I’ve been wearing oversized hoodies since I was a kid (started wearing my older sisters stuff) and I would later deliberately buy oversized hoodies for myself and it’s always just been a matter of wanting to feel relaxed and comfy.
But skinny fits also cycle around eventually too?? I think that the most timeless version of a lot of these “timeless” styles is the fitted one. The one that is true to size for your body type; not obviously a relaxed fit, nor a particularly slim one.
I feel that your “classic” takes are heavily inspired by European aesthetics. Specially when you talked about silhouettes, wider cuts are a mainstay in Japanese fashion as opposed to a trend. Plus, I think you overlooked subcultures which exist outside of “classic” looks such as grunge, punk, skate, etc, which have looks that are “trendy” but have been around within those subcultures for over two decades. Great video in terms of getting an idea on Euro/American fits.
Good point about punk subculture, I saw someone say on another video that Dr. Martens are an example of this. They fluctuate between trendy and timeless, but even when they’re not considered on trend, they’re a staple of punk. They still will be 20 years from now.
one thing that many timeless items have in common is that theyve graduated from function to fashion over time. for instance classic menswear like leather and denim jackets, wool coats, leather boots, athletic trainers, list goes on.
Yessss agree 100% because they are both high quality, practical and comfortable for the most part. And in the end, the things we wear everyday have to be comfy and practical
I've been wearing baggy, oversized cargo pants for years and I'm so happy to see the "parachute" look become mainstream, but I really hope that people don't start seeing them as outdated when they fall out of fashion and I'm still wearing them😅 These kinds of pants will always be an iconic piece of my personal style, and I would be sad to see them being thought of as a cringe or last-season item
I think oversized shouldn't be a trend. it's just a great fit that for some people makes them worry less about how their body looks in a fit. here to stay in my opinion
It’s been a year now and I still have yet to see someone wear them in public, imo they were trendy but I think they could be timeless just because of the fact that some of them have their own aesthetic tailored to them
i think the trendy vs. timeless convo will always be in context of a clothing "meta". for instance a lot of these "timeless" items lean towards american/european menswear which is like the majority style. but there are definitely timeless pieces in different metas, like workwear or streetwear.
Yea, I agree because I’m from the Caribbean so short skirts are timeless because there is no season change and it works for almost any tops and shoe combos
In my opinion, The North Face puffer is a timeless piece.I’m from nyc and once the winter hits,everyone takes out their puffers. My parents and aunts actually wore the original 1996 puffer when it first came out in the 90s and now I have one aswell. I do understand that its come back but a classic black puffer will always be a new york staple because of how conventional it is, how good it looks and ofcourse, that it keeps you warm.
Interestingly, north face in the UK (especially in Liverpool) has a really negative connotation with gang culture. So North Face as a label has a really negative stigma attached to it!
although northface jackets are warm and practical I feel like there is a negative connotation to them because at least where I'm from those who wear them often feel this sense of superiority and elitism and it feel like an old trend too, but I'm just basing my opinion on where I live, but as the other guy mentioned in the UK it is simmilar.
@@alexandraoloughlin4051 same in Turkey. Mostly teens and young adults wear black NorthFace puffers (which most are fake) inspired by English drill culture. Up until 2-3 years ago NorthFace name was positive, associated with mostly upper/upper middle class people. Now it is associated with wannabe gangster kids
@@alexandraoloughlin4051 Wow Liverpool is gonna have a wild time when they realise everywhere else in the country wears North Face puffers and aren't in a gang.
i like buying whatever i enjoy and mixing them to see what styles work together. i look at each piece i buy as part of a whole, and not just something trendy and disposable.
Same kinda, when I shop my goal is take up the least amount of space possible. And I’m also looking for things that can be styled with nearly anything because then not only would I like most my outfits, I’d also be saving money but not buying trendy things that either don’t flatter me or don’t go with anything. And ofcourse shopping for your body type and color tone will be very helpful with finding a timeless wardrobe
I think form a woman’s perspective corsets are very practical for going out. Women aren’t forced to wear a club dress and, good quality corsets provided really good back support. (IMO)
Timeless = classy but also everyday. That’s how I like to think. Staying true to what I like visually as well. Square neck sweet heart are what I typically look for in clothing tops. Anything my eye is drawn to I’ll try on. And just keep it true to you and that’s how it stays timeless.
The Detroit styled Jacket came out in 1954, meaning its almost 70 years old. I think if an item of clothing is still being worn for 7 decades it falls into the timeless category. Skinny jeans became popular in the 60s and have continued to remain popular, baggy carpenter pants became popular in the 90s and yet somehow they’re timeless. I like both and think they’re both timeless. On the subject of footwear, your arguments are odd to say the least. The Jordan 1 is a 40 year old shoe thats still popular. Crocs didn’t come out till 2001, and were clowned on for almost 2 decades, only becoming popular as a trend recently. The Adidas Samba came out in 1949! It’s a 73 year old shoe that sold 35 million pairs, enough said, its timeless. The trucker hat is 50 years old, I’ve been wearing them for 20 years. You’re showing your age and definitely need to research the history of the clothing you’re reviewing. Timeless vs Trendy should be viewed from how often they continue to be recycled throughout time. A trend usually dies whilst a timeless piece will remain. Plenty of other clothing items that i wont touch on that you’re wrong about. This video is a rare L for you.
Patagonia and Columbia fleeces have been around for a while though, so it could be consider a timeless outwear piece, I think more patterns and more experimentation with it have been more trendy
more recently i started thrifting almost all the tops in my wardrobe. I also cut down on how much stuff i have and if i want to add something i need to remove something from the collection (sort of a capsule wardrobe but bigger and not as strict). definitely feel like, 1. limiting the number of pieces you have will naturally lead you to more timeless pieces 2. thrifting by nature will lean toward more timeless pieces 3. regardless of what you pick, your collection will be timeless from your personal perspective. my one flannel and one puffer vest were thrifted from my trip to Spain. my tweed overcoat was my Grandpa's. my coolest graphic tees were thrifted on my trip to Portland. basically all I'm saying is if you're struggling w/ the topic of this video and haven't tried thrifting (including trendier more expensive vintage stores) consider giving it a try. It's incredibly fun, rewarding, and affordable too
i love the topic of what’s timeless and trendy because we can get so many perspectives from people all over the world. i love hearing other people’s opinions and while i do agree with most of drew’s points, seeing people in the comments from all over the world argue that certain aspects of fashion are timeless due to where they live and how they were nurtured, it’s so fascinating to me
i think the question of trendy vs timeless also hinges on the practicality of the item. timeless items, like normal fit jeans and sneakers are always something we're going to return to because they're comfortable, functional, dependable, and often lower effort to style and wear. statement-making trendy pieces are a lot of fun to discover and style, but they tend to be higher maintenance and get tiring after the hype has died down
Bro we been rocking racing jackets for 20 plus years it was big late 90s early 2000s from Avrix-Pelle Pelle it went away for a while now it’s back but racing jackets are more an offshoot from the biker jacket look which is also timeless…it really just depends on the person wearing the item some people look trendy some people look timeless.
In my preference, ive always tried to dress what compliments my body shape/type, that itself accentuates and elevates what i wear, if that makes sense. And once youre familiar with what works on you, you can gradually play with colour and texture
it's nice to have a good base of timeless items but once you have that, it's really fun to play around with current trends too. exploring is what makes fashion fun imo!
I think that military wear has a lot to do with current trends in fashion as well as timeless pieces. The US army actually invented the first mass manufactured tshirt and ever since then it trickled down into everyday wear, which is impressive. They definitely influenced the consistent wear of items like derby boots after their massive popularity for use in Vietnam and cargos. When it comes to camo I feel like it can be split into two categories. One can be much more trendy and cheaply pasted onto a pair of pants or jacket just to be sold in mall, but an authentic piece of military camo can work very well. The olive green seen on the currently trendy military pants was discontinued in the late 80s so you can’t find any authentic pieces unless you go second hand. All military wear camo now and I will always bear in mind that the army won’t do anything without a reason.
Military wear inspired everything! (Almost lol). Mass manufacturing paved way for industrialization of fashion. Parkas are inspired by old military jackets, camo as a trend died down a bit, but the trendy colors (nature / earth tones) are the colors used in camo, German army trainers inspired sneakers etc etc.
But when we're talking actual army use, they use the best we know of, not the absolute best. A ton of people are now arguing that all grey (no pattern) is actually the best allround "camo".
5:58 Fleece tops, IMO are timeless. It all depends on the print! Obviously prints in fashion are always changing, which makes things trendy and not. But if you get a basic fleece, solid colours, nothing crazy, I think it can definitely be a timeless piece in anyones wardrobe.
I was just thinking this! Up in Alaska all my relatives have a fleece jacket in their closet simply to keep warm, also because we had hand me downs so much
yes !! they're absolutely a matter of function too, especially less oversized fleeces are so important in cold (especially wet) weather for layering. also i think they bring so much texture. even the crazy ones, if the pattern is chosen carefully, can fit into a wardrobe forever imo.
id discuss carhartt being "trendry". In fashion, Cahartt is definitely more on the trendy side, and pieces similar to it within the genre are also trendy. Some of the workwear like Japaness American is definitely timeless. But Carhartt, as a brand, not being used as fashion pieces, is a timeless brand. My dad, grandpa, and great grandpa all have been people who love working out in the woods, and in the workshop, but that is just my experience.
I think you should've definitely talked about trench coats. Trench coats are just such a timeless piece going back all the way to the 1960s, there are so many different kinds and styles of trench coats that I just feel are such a staple for I won't say everyone, but lots of people's wardrobes. They are also great for a lot of seasons, obviously, it depends on where you live but I'd say they are great for seasons such as spring, autumn, and winter.
I like that you added some women’s fashion too! I’ve just changed my style from something very niche and trendy, and trying to build back up the basics and starting with timeless clothes
Boot cut is a total CLAaassssssic! Where I’m from (northern Mexico) almost everyone, including me, has been wearing them forever. I believe a “classic” look has to be seen from a cultural pint of view, what is functional and durable to certain country/region depending on what their day to day life consists and what they do for a living
I just think that at the end of the day, in order to be timeless you just have to be mindfull, comsume quality over cuantity, only get yourfelt pieces that fill you with confort, joy, and autoestime. If you take your time to know yourself and discover how you want to express yourself with clothe, you'll end up builthing a closest that will last ypu for life and with the years u can add pieces time to time
Good rule of thumb I use while shopping for clothes I consider timeless is to picture how it would look on people of different ages. Generally something that looks good on people of all ages can safely be a staple in my wardrobe 👍🏽
What’s timeless is 100% determined by the communities and cultures you’re a part of though. Flannel is timeless if you grew up rurally (cowboy and Chelsea boots are another strong example of that), leather is timeless if you’re involved in motorcycle or alt music culture, tribal tattoos are timeless if you’re actually of the culture they are significant to. I for one would consider mini skirts to be one of the most timeless staples I own. I think it’s partially because I’m from Australia, and so wearing really short bottoms in the summer is very common, since it’s so hot. Sure, the exact style of mini skirt that is popular changes with the trends, but the concept has consistently retained its popularity since I was a child. I also feel that something like a mini skirt, which is so intrinsically connected to a social movement from history (women’s hemlines getting shorter as a reflection of the progression towards women’s liberation) is inherently more timeless for that reason. It marked a major shift in cultural consciousness, and we’ve been continuing to wear them ever since.
On the fleece I honestly have to disagree!! Imo I think something is timeless when it is incorporated in different aesthetics, groups, sports, "communities" etc. the fleece ALWAYS has been worn by the surfer community for example from billabong in crazy prints and colorways, but also like "suburb girls" are wearing a beige one over their lululemon leggings! then like you said there's the modern hype beast wearing the stussy ones and many many other communities!! Love the vid as always great work
The “carpenter pants” you spoke of we called painter’s pants. The painters’ and carpenters’ pants and overalls we wore were the same brands and colors painters and carpenters wore: Osh Kosh, Lee, and Washington DeeCee, etc. This was before brands like Calvin Klein and Gloria Vanderbilt started making them for fashion.
I feel like we also need to emphasise how proper garment care can extend the life of our clothing. When we buy timeless pieces, maintaining it can help us to continue enjoying them for longer and less likely to buy into the next new trend.
Interesting take on Monet when Impressionism was not considered ~classical~ when they were first shown to the public. Personally, I think our ideas of classical/timeless wardrobe pieces will continue to evolve as the human species evolve. Fit and silhouette, I believe, are more determinant factors in whether a piece of clothing is timeless, or not. I'd argue that leopard and camo prints CAN be timeless given the right design.
Great video, drew. I think one really important aspect to consider in the "Trendy vs Timeless" debate is functionality. All aspects of fashion (and other creative modalities for that matter) exist on a spectrum of form and function. Timeless pieces carry a great deal of functionality in their form, with less extraneous aesthetic elements. Trendy items may or may not work well functionally, but they have an abundance of aesthetic cues in their design profile to garner interest. To your point, these trendy pieces are often a derivative of the highly functional "original" design, but with additional aesthetic cues. These extraneous aesthetic cues are easily interchangeable as they ebb and flow with the whims of the creative community.
As a member of the flannel wearing community, I do agree with your take. They’re not for everyone and as a long time owner of many flannels, it’s a staple when I don’t wanna wear a jacket and still need a layer. I’ve been complimented on my flannel styling, so I might be doing something right.
another thing that is really interesting to think about is that certain pieces that might be hyper trendy in mainstream fashion right now, are actually timeless within the subculture they are deriving from. For example, certain items originating from gothic fashion are very trendy right now, but for true goths they have been staple pieces ever since the 70s!
I'm interested in seeing what popular styles of garments of the last decade (including the ones now) will hold up maybe 10 years from now and stand the test of time. When the pieces we consider timeless were made, I don't think people at the time thought they were gonna be "timeless". As far as I can tell, a lot of what we consider "timeless" today is practical, versatile and accessible. There are certainly garments that fit all these parameters that are trendy. So I wonder-- if Tiktok wasn't a thing and trend cycles were slower would there be a greater potential for pieces to outlive their "eras" ?
Corsets are literally one of the only pieces of clothing that are still around after hundreds of years even being extremely uncomfortable. 😅 I think it deserves a spot in the timeless list
considering birkenstocks I feel like the Arizona style is by far the most timeless, Boston has only recently been discovered and worn as general shoes, for many older Germans the Boston is a very generic "gardening shoe" or "around the house slipper". It's surprisingly popular with nurses as workwear shoes but apart from that I don't see them as timeless at all.
great video, agree with most except for the camo, I personally don't like wearing them, but my dad always used camo since he served for my country and it pulls off a really solid and timeless look
When deciphering between trendy and timeless it's so important to look beyond social media and what is worn in your country/generation. As someone who lives in Australia, the Asics Gel Kayano has continued to be timeless since I was little. They have maintained to be worn since I can remember and often just move with time and as new models come out (whilst it still being acceptable to wear older models). Every time I come to buy a new running shoe, they're always in the mix of options. Another example would be leather pants. They are definitely a lot of people's styles and continue to be worn by all generations. They definitely had there time in early 2022 when they become more of a trend but that doesn't take away from the fact that they have always been worn and continue to be worn by many people, in all different styles. One more is Salamon's, they have been worn and popular within Australia for a long time now and were only brought to light by social media in 2022. I think they will remain to be worn by a lot of people and could be considered a staple in a lot of Australian households.
I am also Australian, and hard agree with those damn Asics. Even though they’re sort of known for being an unattractive shoe, they remain most people’s go-to running shoe, and by far the most consistent and widely available option in stores. I think they are ugly as hell, and yet I own 3 pairs right now (and wear them regularly).
i think crocs will become timeless in a sense that nurse's shoes are timeless because even after they are not "trendy" they will continue to be functional
Focusing on oxfords/button shirts: I think the fit of the oxford makes all the difference in whether it's considered trendy or timeless. Two trendy examples: 1. The slim-fit, narrow-arm chambray shirts from American Apparel. If someone is wearing that shirt in a fit today, I think they'll look like they're straight out of 2011. 2. An oversized, camp-collar, boxy oxford from MF Pen or Our Legacy. Definitely feels of the moment and something that will scream 2022 in due time. I guess your same observation of the "happy medium" fit for jeans could probably apply for "timeless" here.
Wide-fitting pants are generally wayyy more flattering on people who happen to have my body type, an example of how trends *should* work, where you see people wearing something & it works so well on you that people don't really notice your clothing when it's no longer a trend
I love how in youtube videos like these everyone gets into such a deep and thoughtful debate which is really enjoyable, especially when you're scrolling through the comments looking at everyone's opinions and taking them in.
As someone who wears mainly colour and print, colour and print are one of the things that are very trendy. You can immediately tell what era something is from, simply based on the colour. However, black and white is so boring to me, so i only wear colour.
Regarding what you said about short skirts, I agree that a mini skirt is an over-exaggerated and trendy look. However, when you think of your point about work wear, a black shorter skirt I think is a very very classic look, that embodies the styles of working women (I imagining this wool skirt I have in my closet that is extremely timeless when worn in the winter or with tights and a blazer). I would appreciate next time more focus on women's clothing.
I’d love for you to dive deeper into women’s timeless fashion because I have the impression that the fluctuation of trends is so much higher in this regard but still some pieces survive over the years.
I remember seeing my younger cousins start wearing Crocs within the last couple years and I was MAD, lol. Why couldn’t they have been popular 15 years ago when I was rockin ‘em. 😭
Unisex: tote bags For ladies: Mary Jane flats Mini floral dresses (long) Woven straw baskets, woven totes bags Blue denim mini skirt French girl style from the 60s
I guess timeless pieces can be very trendy as well - like the Birkenstock Boston, which maybe has been around for a long time but has not been regarded a fashion piece until last year. I would even argue that the claim of timelessness itself is somewhat a trend right now. Sustainability being a claim many companies make in their ads goes hand in hand with them selling “timeless“ products that are supposed to last for years and always look good.
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The super short skirts look is cute but so impractical. They never stay down and when you sit they wrinkle up. They look great for photos but not for long time wear. I think this brings me to the thought that anything that only looks good in photos or short term wear tends to be more trendy than timeless.
It's funny, as a teenagers I used to be super into labels and trends as must of us at that age are very swayed by what's hot. As I've aged into my early twenties I still love fashion just as much but my wardrobe now focuses on timeless pieces, materials and cuts. I love vintage shopping for that purpose too. I'm way more discerning with each purchase and always think about how it will serve me in my wardrobe. I love it!
To determine timelessness we really juts have to see what’s remained in style even if silhouettes have changed. Jeans, sneakers, sweaters. On a macro scale it’s pretty easy to determine what’s timeless
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Trendy vs timeless also has a lot to do with styling. Mohair/fuzzy sweaters have been around in women’s wear forever. They look very trendy is specific patterns (checkers or wavy stripes) or when styled in a hyper trendy instagram way but can look very natural and timeless when incorporated long term into someone’s more stable personal style. Camo goes in and out of trend but look v timeless on people with a personal style that suits it when styled in not a hyper trendy instagramy way.
Holy smokes, this is one very solid list. I'm a more of a Timeless kind of man but would love to experiment with the Trendy ones from time to time. This is an amazing follow up from the first one you made before, I'm hoping for a part 3 if possible. Thank you so much for this list! Currently having the huge urge to check up my wardrobe right now. Regarding subbed vs dubbed, here are the only animes that I would consider better as dubbed; Dragon Ball and Naruto. The rest are fine as subbed, that's all!
my whole mindset for being "fashionable" is being independent with what you think looks good on you. and when that isn't trendy, that's good, even when you're called "unfashionable". match colors, textures, patterns, and fits for what you like, not what trends tell you too. cuz that Nirvana t-shirt bucket hat combo is so stupid
Imo as a fleece enjoyer myself I personally think they’re relatively new but will evolve to be timeless; they can work with almost any other timeless essentials and it’s really the current styling with other trendy pieces and the crazy designs that are making them trendy at the moment.
Imma have to disagree on camo being a trend. Majority of the camo patterns on clothing are based on the ERDL (leaf pattern) and the Woodland pattern; both used way back during the 70s and even through the 2000s. The Dickies and the Carharrt jackets are also timeless too. For one, workwear will forever be timeless and another is that both jacket silhouettes are pretty classic too along with it's utility and history. For anime, it's doesn't matter for me, the captions will always be on either way lul. If im working, it will be dubbed; but if not, I'm usually watching it subbed.
I think it really depends on the type of Camo and what piece of clothing it's on. the woodland camo is a great pattern compared to Digital camo, but I would rather wear it on cargo pants than on a puffer jacket.
The fact that camo has been fulfilling a "work role" for ages doesn't mean it been a part of mainstream clothes for all that time. It didn't really start becoming a part of "normal" clothes (used outside actual army wear) until the mid 00's. Yes, some people's were rocking it as normal wear before, but it was almost the opposite of trendy.
I loved this video. The pace you’re talking in makes everything easy to understand and feel thought through and easy to follow. This video is just so good! Wow!
what I've got from this is "timeless" is mostly pieces of clothing that people who are not that into fashion or really safe with their fashion choices wear
I love headphones, I hate air pods. Headphones are much more practical. It’s also nice that people can tell when you are listening to something. Someone might not see that you have air pods in your ears. For example wearing headphones at the gym, you don’t have to worry about them falling off. I think they are timeless. Trendy right now yes, but overall timeless.. I had headphones before I even had an iPhone.
I feel like for me these h&m and bershka cargo 'baggy' jeans are very trendy rn. And Adidas samba are very trendy right now yes, but in my opinion they are also timeless bc my mother wore them like 15 years ago and they were in too.The onitsuka tiger shoes are really great!! Thank you for that video.
Great video, I think this sort of objectively “arbitrary” classification of items between timeless and trendy kinda helps reduce the negative stigma the word trendy has in parts of the fashion community. Ik that probably wasn’t your goal but I hear so many people/creators describing something as timeless or trendy and then ascribing a negative connotation to the latter. It just a little bit annoying bc if you enjoy something enough it shouldn’t matter either way, but it can still fall into one of those categories without it being a “bad” thing
I wanted to touch on the subject of denim jackets, whether or not they are a 'timeless piece'. I truly believe like fish in the sea, there's a denim jacket out there that is perfect to each individual. Keeping this in mind when deciphering all of the variants of denim jackets shall lead to the timeless piece for YOU. My denim jacket is fitted and girly, with a scalloped collar. This is not the standard however for my wardrobe it absolutely is.
I was agreeing with most of this list but I’m sorry to tell you drew, leather pants are timeless. Obviously newer brands are trying to make a resurgence of them which kind of tarnish their image but people have religiously wore leather pants for a long time. (bikers, rockstars, some western wear, etc.)
I think a big reason of why I say this is because I feel that certain silhouettes are seen as more trendy but there are just some materials that are the definition of timeless. (Leather, denim, corduroy, cotton, knits, and obviously other materials I can’t think of lol)
I think that band shirts no matter the band can be pretty classic and timeless if the print is done with ink so that it affectively ages with the shirt because no matter how obscure the band is or how loss the reference is you still have a cool graphic T
i would argue that the workwear jackets like carhartt are timeless. they are “generational” and durable pieces that can be worn your whole life and passed on. you went on to say that varsity jackets are timeless for “X” reason but that same reason could be applied to the workwear
I think the timeless vs trendy thing also depends on where you're from. Like I grew up in the countryside so ofc loose fitting jeans and boot cuts are a timeless staple, same with trucker hats. Also I find that I enjoy the more classic animes (Naruto, one piece, bleach, jojos, etc) dubbed over the newer ones, except bnha and assassination classroom , I really like the dubbed version of those.
This is a really interesting video. Re: mohair, I would argue that mohair sweaters in their 2022 incarnation, while inarguably trendy, are different from vintage mohair sweaters which I consider as timeless as the workwear or the varsity jacket. Something like a 1960s cropped mohair cardigan in a neutral tone has an evergreen wearability and basic layering function (think of a Betty Draper look or the cardigan worn by Beth Harmon in The Queen's Gambit). Even the mohair cardigan worn by Kurt Cobain in the MTV Unplugged is an iconic piece that in many ways functions as a flannel does. Perhaps what causes the mohair look to veer into trendiness is the use of certain colors (kelly green) or patterns (florals). That's my mohair essay thank you for listening
I’d say for camo, it depends on what piece it is. A real canvas army jacket is pretty awesome and timeless (especially if it comes from a family member), but just some corporate produced t or puffer is trendy.
another way I look at trendy vs timeless is how many times, and in what different ways can you style that piece of clothing. for example, a racing jacket is something a person might only wear a few times a year top which makes it trendy
I think that a lot of the trends nowadays are just throwbacks of the past and it feels like the more we move on with these so called trends we are just gonna stay stuck in a loop. I am not saying that it is bad but I get that it is super hard to find new and groovy ideas to make a trend out of. I myself do love cropped jackets and oversized items but sometimes it doesn't feel like I'm apart from the rest. the moment I feel like I'm falling into a trend, I no longer feel like its a trend since everyone is doing, therefore becoming basic. these timeless pieces are good but now whilst writing this, I am curious to see how the perception of a timeless wardrobe will change in the future if it will change.
Interesting takes. Not sure you are applying the same logic consistently to each category or item and think you may also be letting your own tastes enter the decison making. But it is interesting. I think it also has to be considered that things that are classics come into and out of fast 'trendy' fashion themselves which muddies the water. I think for example workwear items are much more timeless than you give them credit for. They and some particular brands have had a revival where things get saturated for a while but then it goes back to timeless, it doesnt easily fall past that and into unfashionable. Whereas something like cord trousers has at times fallen well into the unfashionable and then risen again. I personally think that is the best way to judge if something is timeless. How far it fluctuates from centre. Similar to how you approach silhouettes. Jeans are timeless, straight cut jeans are the most timeless because skinny and baggy have harder rises and falls. Thanks for the video.
i think that one topic that gets overlooked in fashion is hair. hair adds such a unique flair to someone’s character and you could definitely categorize different styles into trendy vs non trendy styles.
Would love to see that in an episode of TvT
what if you are bald or balding?
@@TS-er2jc bald is cool too ! and even a little bit of receiding can be ok (on the corners for example)
Facts I hate when somebody got on a clean fit but the hair is garbage a nice tapper line up can save your fit
@@TS-er2jc bald can be part of the look too, I really dislike it when people share their fit pics but cut out their head, because you "wear" your hair as much as you wear anything else, it's part of the look so don't edit it out
for womenswear, the little black dress is definitely one of the more timeless and classic pieces
I think LBD’s are sexy
With the matching the fuck me pumps
lbd's are a cheat code for women
@@ronnana694 ur absolutely right
I think its better in white
I feel like anything is timeless if it's your personal style. Regardless of what the actual garment is, if its part of your aesthetic, it can never go out of style because you dictate what that means. The way companies sell trends is largely for the people who havent or dont want to develop a personal style (which is also a valid way of dressing)
Agreed, as someone who grew up in a log cabin in the woods, camo and flannels were a big part of clothes I had and see them as a part of my aesthetic
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i agree with dressing your style being timeless, also dressing to fit your body type is timeless, for example, a bigger dude will always look better with wider pants than skinny jeans even if wide pants are currently a trend. another example would be a shorter dude will always look good in a more cropped sweater as it improves their proportions, even though cropped sweaters are really trendy right now
Had same style since 4 years old ~~~ suck on that !!!! Hehehehe
Amazing comment
The difficult part is understanding what my preference is and not being too influenced by trends.
It's interesting to me to see how different our perceptions can be between one another.
I literally don't understand how peoples preferences can blur with trends. I like what I like, trends are completely disconnected from whether I like it or not.
I am a lover of collared lantern blouses, slim fit pants, golden jewelery, and elaborate bowties whether or not it's in fashion. The only way I think I'd be influenced is subconsciously in what I see, and more directly in just whats available to buy.
@Sophia Hoag Ahh so maybe it's my own disinterest in what people think that makes me less susceptible to that effect.
Just…stay away from social media/style influencers..? 🤨
For me, i just ignore influencers (or get inspired keeping in mind my preferences) and browse websites of brands i like
For me thats also really difficult sometimes. I mean i like what I like and I know what I like, but sometimes I see my preferences change. I think being exposed to trends in this world today where you repeatedly see the same Item again and again, even if you wouldn't naturally feel drawn to it, over time your eye gets used to it and you might actually think "ah this doesn't look as bad as I thought after all." And then you might start liking it. I dont like to think that I like things just because the majority likes it and there for it is a safe way to go, but I do like to consider if there might actually could be a profound aesthetical value found in current trends. After all why do so mamy ppl like it? But as I already said it might just be that way because everybody likes it, that everybody likes it and it just accumulates that way. Anyhow beauty can be found in everything
i think an important thing that often gets overlooked when it comes to timeless vs trendy is quality of material. when you consider cotton, linen, wool, cashmere, silk etc., items made from such materials are automatically more timeless because of their durability (in my opinion)
silk really isnt timeless, especially because it is so hard to take care of for the normal person. I am talking of experience... I love my silk turtleneck or silk scarf and silk-tie. Also Viscose or other new materials are just more sustainable and easier to maintain :D If I am wrong please tell me ^.^
I think being “timeless” is a trend right now. Specially in the sneaker world i see shift towards simple colorways, like white and creme, instead of multicolored sneakers like many of the SB Dunks that was extremely popular just a little while ago
For sure. I don't know about everyone participating in fashion rn, but as a young professional in my early 20s, I'm not interested in acquiring too many flashy pieces that I will never learn to style or will stop caring for in a year or two when the winds change. I've definitely learned into brown and cream as a result, as they're such great shades (especially against my brown skin) and will continue to combine well with timeless colors forever.
hopefully the love for timeless pieces will stay trendy! that might eventually decrease the amounts of shitty quality clothes that go straight into landfills
i love my sbs
This is facts bro I’ve been saying this for years. We’ve moved so much from regularity that we’re moving right back into it. It’s redundant but, there is beauty in that I guess. The possibility of a new birth of originality in the fashion industry
I think wide/relaxed fits are timeless because we cycle between liking skinny/slim fit and more relaxed stuff. It's not always what people want at the moment, but relaxed fits always come back eventually
Fax because some days we like to be relaxed but also stylish
I’ve been wearing oversized hoodies since I was a kid (started wearing my older sisters stuff) and I would later deliberately buy oversized hoodies for myself and it’s always just been a matter of wanting to feel relaxed and comfy.
@@mowill2000interesting take
…I’d say fitted is more timeless not skinny not relaxed but fit to ur body shape
But skinny fits also cycle around eventually too?? I think that the most timeless version of a lot of these “timeless” styles is the fitted one. The one that is true to size for your body type; not obviously a relaxed fit, nor a particularly slim one.
I feel that your “classic” takes are heavily inspired by European aesthetics. Specially when you talked about silhouettes, wider cuts are a mainstay in Japanese fashion as opposed to a trend. Plus, I think you overlooked subcultures which exist outside of “classic” looks such as grunge, punk, skate, etc, which have looks that are “trendy” but have been around within those subcultures for over two decades. Great video in terms of getting an idea on Euro/American fits.
Good point about punk subculture, I saw someone say on another video that Dr. Martens are an example of this. They fluctuate between trendy and timeless, but even when they’re not considered on trend, they’re a staple of punk. They still will be 20 years from now.
one thing that many timeless items have in common is that theyve graduated from function to fashion over time. for instance classic menswear like leather and denim jackets, wool coats, leather boots, athletic trainers, list goes on.
Exactly.
Yessss agree 100% because they are both high quality, practical and comfortable for the most part. And in the end, the things we wear everyday have to be comfy and practical
Leather jackets are out
I've been wearing baggy, oversized cargo pants for years and I'm so happy to see the "parachute" look become mainstream, but I really hope that people don't start seeing them as outdated when they fall out of fashion and I'm still wearing them😅 These kinds of pants will always be an iconic piece of my personal style, and I would be sad to see them being thought of as a cringe or last-season item
I think oversized shouldn't be a trend. it's just a great fit that for some people makes them worry less about how their body looks in a fit. here to stay in my opinion
same for me with long black leather jackets :x
i’m with ya brother, grew up surrounded by the skate culture ever since i was in middle school. so the baggy bottoms will always stick with me as well
And now they’re outdated.
It’s been a year now and I still have yet to see someone wear them in public, imo they were trendy but I think they could be timeless just because of the fact that some of them have their own aesthetic tailored to them
i think the trendy vs. timeless convo will always be in context of a clothing "meta". for instance a lot of these "timeless" items lean towards american/european menswear which is like the majority style. but there are definitely timeless pieces in different metas, like workwear or streetwear.
Yea, I agree because I’m from the Caribbean so short skirts are timeless because there is no season change and it works for almost any tops and shoe combos
In my opinion, The North Face puffer is a timeless piece.I’m from nyc and once the winter hits,everyone takes out their puffers. My parents and aunts actually wore the original 1996 puffer when it first came out in the 90s and now I have one aswell. I do understand that its come back but a classic black puffer will always be a new york staple because of how conventional it is, how good it looks and ofcourse, that it keeps you warm.
Interestingly, north face in the UK (especially in Liverpool) has a really negative connotation with gang culture. So North Face as a label has a really negative stigma attached to it!
@@alexandraoloughlin4051 noted not to wear my 500 while travelling to liverpool lol
although northface jackets are warm and practical I feel like there is a negative connotation to them because at least where I'm from those who wear them often feel this sense of superiority and elitism and it feel like an old trend too, but I'm just basing my opinion on where I live, but as the other guy mentioned in the UK it is simmilar.
@@alexandraoloughlin4051 same in Turkey. Mostly teens and young adults wear black NorthFace puffers (which most are fake) inspired by English drill culture. Up until 2-3 years ago NorthFace name was positive, associated with mostly upper/upper middle class people. Now it is associated with wannabe gangster kids
@@alexandraoloughlin4051 Wow Liverpool is gonna have a wild time when they realise everywhere else in the country wears North Face puffers and aren't in a gang.
Things can be timeless but can also be trending at the moment, not just trendy.
yes
i like buying whatever i enjoy and mixing them to see what styles work together. i look at each piece i buy as part of a whole, and not just something trendy and disposable.
Same kinda, when I shop my goal is take up the least amount of space possible. And I’m also looking for things that can be styled with nearly anything because then not only would I like most my outfits, I’d also be saving money but not buying trendy things that either don’t flatter me or don’t go with anything. And ofcourse shopping for your body type and color tone will be very helpful with finding a timeless wardrobe
I think form a woman’s perspective corsets are very practical for going out. Women aren’t forced to wear a club dress and, good quality corsets provided really good back support. (IMO)
adidas sambas must be a classic. they are like the superstar in europe. the whole football/casual culture is wearing sambas since they are around
yes they have a very deep tie to a lot of subcultures in britain
bro? no, they are just trendy
@@ember24k80 they are trendy at the moment but they have a core history in many subcultures in Britain
@@ember24k80 right bro like nobody was wearing these before bro, there gonna be like the new balance 550s
In Germany the home of the Samba nobody expect soldiers in their freetime wore this shoe and maybe some Handball players
Timeless = classy but also everyday. That’s how I like to think. Staying true to what I like visually as well. Square neck sweet heart are what I typically look for in clothing tops. Anything my eye is drawn to I’ll try on. And just keep it true to you and that’s how it stays timeless.
The Detroit styled Jacket came out in 1954, meaning its almost 70 years old. I think if an item of clothing is still being worn for 7 decades it falls into the timeless category.
Skinny jeans became popular in the 60s and have continued to remain popular, baggy carpenter pants became popular in the 90s and yet somehow they’re timeless. I like both and think they’re both timeless.
On the subject of footwear, your arguments are odd to say the least. The Jordan 1 is a 40 year old shoe thats still popular. Crocs didn’t come out till 2001, and were clowned on for almost 2 decades, only becoming popular as a trend recently. The Adidas Samba came out in 1949! It’s a 73 year old shoe that sold 35 million pairs, enough said, its timeless.
The trucker hat is 50 years old, I’ve been wearing them for 20 years. You’re showing your age and definitely need to research the history of the clothing you’re reviewing.
Timeless vs Trendy should be viewed from how often they continue to be recycled throughout time. A trend usually dies whilst a timeless piece will remain.
Plenty of other clothing items that i wont touch on that you’re wrong about. This video is a rare L for you.
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You woke up and chose FACTS.
I don’t even have to type a comment because you went off 👏🏾
Facts, I thought the same thing
60s jeans were more slim than skinny, no?
Patagonia and Columbia fleeces have been around for a while though, so it could be consider a timeless outwear piece, I think more patterns and more experimentation with it have been more trendy
also really depends where you're from! I'm from the pnw and all the outdoors hikey outfits are def part of the pnw identity
Absolutely, I have my moms old Columbia fleece that is probably as old as me and I’ve been wearing it for years
more recently i started thrifting almost all the tops in my wardrobe. I also cut down on how much stuff i have and if i want to add something i need to remove something from the collection (sort of a capsule wardrobe but bigger and not as strict). definitely feel like,
1. limiting the number of pieces you have will naturally lead you to more timeless pieces
2. thrifting by nature will lean toward more timeless pieces
3. regardless of what you pick, your collection will be timeless from your personal perspective. my one flannel and one puffer vest were thrifted from my trip to Spain. my tweed overcoat was my Grandpa's. my coolest graphic tees were thrifted on my trip to Portland.
basically all I'm saying is if you're struggling w/ the topic of this video and haven't tried thrifting (including trendier more expensive vintage stores) consider giving it a try. It's incredibly fun, rewarding, and affordable too
i love the topic of what’s timeless and trendy because we can get so many perspectives from people all over the world. i love hearing other people’s opinions and while i do agree with most of drew’s points, seeing people in the comments from all over the world argue that certain aspects of fashion are timeless due to where they live and how they were nurtured, it’s so fascinating to me
Flannel may not be trendy, but it's timeless. I remember people use to wear a lot of flannel shirts in the 90s for a relaxed vibe
i think the question of trendy vs timeless also hinges on the practicality of the item. timeless items, like normal fit jeans and sneakers are always something we're going to return to because they're comfortable, functional, dependable, and often lower effort to style and wear. statement-making trendy pieces are a lot of fun to discover and style, but they tend to be higher maintenance and get tiring after the hype has died down
Bro we been rocking racing jackets for 20 plus years it was big late 90s early 2000s from Avrix-Pelle Pelle it went away for a while now it’s back but racing jackets are more an offshoot from the biker jacket look which is also timeless…it really just depends on the person wearing the item some people look trendy some people look timeless.
Not sure whether these shoes were mentioned, but I think that a pair of VANS in general is a very classic one with regard to footwear.
In my preference, ive always tried to dress what compliments my body shape/type, that itself accentuates and elevates what i wear, if that makes sense. And once youre familiar with what works on you, you can gradually play with colour and texture
it's nice to have a good base of timeless items but once you have that, it's really fun to play around with current trends too. exploring is what makes fashion fun imo!
this is so true
I think that military wear has a lot to do with current trends in fashion as well as timeless pieces. The US army actually invented the first mass manufactured tshirt and ever since then it trickled down into everyday wear, which is impressive. They definitely influenced the consistent wear of items like derby boots after their massive popularity for use in Vietnam and cargos. When it comes to camo I feel like it can be split into two categories. One can be much more trendy and cheaply pasted onto a pair of pants or jacket just to be sold in mall, but an authentic piece of military camo can work very well. The olive green seen on the currently trendy military pants was discontinued in the late 80s so you can’t find any authentic pieces unless you go second hand. All military wear camo now and I will always bear in mind that the army won’t do anything without a reason.
Military wear inspired everything! (Almost lol).
Mass manufacturing paved way for industrialization of fashion. Parkas are inspired by old military jackets, camo as a trend died down a bit, but the trendy colors (nature / earth tones) are the colors used in camo, German army trainers inspired sneakers etc etc.
But when we're talking actual army use, they use the best we know of, not the absolute best. A ton of people are now arguing that all grey (no pattern) is actually the best allround "camo".
5:58 Fleece tops, IMO are timeless. It all depends on the print! Obviously prints in fashion are always changing, which makes things trendy and not. But if you get a basic fleece, solid colours, nothing crazy, I think it can definitely be a timeless piece in anyones wardrobe.
I was just thinking this! Up in Alaska all my relatives have a fleece jacket in their closet simply to keep warm, also because we had hand me downs so much
yes !! they're absolutely a matter of function too, especially less oversized fleeces are so important in cold (especially wet) weather for layering. also i think they bring so much texture. even the crazy ones, if the pattern is chosen carefully, can fit into a wardrobe forever imo.
id discuss carhartt being "trendry". In fashion, Cahartt is definitely more on the trendy side, and pieces similar to it within the genre are also trendy. Some of the workwear like Japaness American is definitely timeless. But Carhartt, as a brand, not being used as fashion pieces, is a timeless brand. My dad, grandpa, and great grandpa all have been people who love working out in the woods, and in the workshop, but that is just my experience.
honestly i’d say that it’s a timeless brand gone trendy
I think you should've definitely talked about trench coats. Trench coats are just such a timeless piece going back all the way to the 1960s, there are so many different kinds and styles of trench coats that I just feel are such a staple for I won't say everyone, but lots of people's wardrobes. They are also great for a lot of seasons, obviously, it depends on where you live but I'd say they are great for seasons such as spring, autumn, and winter.
I like that you added some women’s fashion too!
I’ve just changed my style from something very niche and trendy, and trying to build back up the basics and starting with timeless clothes
Boot cut is a total CLAaassssssic! Where I’m from (northern Mexico) almost everyone, including me, has been wearing them forever.
I believe a “classic” look has to be seen from a cultural pint of view, what is functional and durable to certain country/region depending on what their day to day life consists and what they do for a living
I just think that at the end of the day, in order to be timeless you just have to be mindfull, comsume quality over cuantity, only get yourfelt pieces that fill you with confort, joy, and autoestime. If you take your time to know yourself and discover how you want to express yourself with clothe, you'll end up builthing a closest that will last ypu for life and with the years u can add pieces time to time
Good rule of thumb I use while shopping for clothes I consider timeless is to picture how it would look on people of different ages. Generally something that looks good on people of all ages can safely be a staple in my wardrobe 👍🏽
What’s timeless is 100% determined by the communities and cultures you’re a part of though. Flannel is timeless if you grew up rurally (cowboy and Chelsea boots are another strong example of that), leather is timeless if you’re involved in motorcycle or alt music culture, tribal tattoos are timeless if you’re actually of the culture they are significant to.
I for one would consider mini skirts to be one of the most timeless staples I own. I think it’s partially because I’m from Australia, and so wearing really short bottoms in the summer is very common, since it’s so hot. Sure, the exact style of mini skirt that is popular changes with the trends, but the concept has consistently retained its popularity since I was a child. I also feel that something like a mini skirt, which is so intrinsically connected to a social movement from history (women’s hemlines getting shorter as a reflection of the progression towards women’s liberation) is inherently more timeless for that reason. It marked a major shift in cultural consciousness, and we’ve been continuing to wear them ever since.
On the fleece I honestly have to disagree!! Imo I think something is timeless when it is incorporated in different aesthetics, groups, sports, "communities" etc. the fleece ALWAYS has been worn by the surfer community for example from billabong in crazy prints and colorways, but also like "suburb girls" are wearing a beige one over their lululemon leggings! then like you said there's the modern hype beast wearing the stussy ones and many many other communities!! Love the vid as always great work
The “carpenter pants” you spoke of we called painter’s pants. The painters’ and carpenters’ pants and overalls we wore were the same brands and colors painters and carpenters wore: Osh Kosh, Lee, and Washington DeeCee, etc. This was before brands like Calvin Klein and Gloria Vanderbilt started making them for fashion.
I feel like we also need to emphasise how proper garment care can extend the life of our clothing. When we buy timeless pieces, maintaining it can help us to continue enjoying them for longer and less likely to buy into the next new trend.
Interesting take on Monet when Impressionism was not considered ~classical~ when they were first shown to the public. Personally, I think our ideas of classical/timeless wardrobe pieces will continue to evolve as the human species evolve. Fit and silhouette, I believe, are more determinant factors in whether a piece of clothing is timeless, or not. I'd argue that leopard and camo prints CAN be timeless given the right design.
Yeah monet wasn’t really the best example with the way I described the art I moreso meant Monet is in museums and hotel art is in hotels
Great video, drew. I think one really important aspect to consider in the "Trendy vs Timeless" debate is functionality. All aspects of fashion (and other creative modalities for that matter) exist on a spectrum of form and function. Timeless pieces carry a great deal of functionality in their form, with less extraneous aesthetic elements. Trendy items may or may not work well functionally, but they have an abundance of aesthetic cues in their design profile to garner interest. To your point, these trendy pieces are often a derivative of the highly functional "original" design, but with additional aesthetic cues. These extraneous aesthetic cues are easily interchangeable as they ebb and flow with the whims of the creative community.
As a member of the flannel wearing community, I do agree with your take. They’re not for everyone and as a long time owner of many flannels, it’s a staple when I don’t wanna wear a jacket and still need a layer. I’ve been complimented on my flannel styling, so I might be doing something right.
no one ever mentions how tattoos are a form of fashion and are increasingly showing up in creativity , good on you
Actually, tattoos take away from the natural beauty of your skin and later on with time will make your skin look worse and worse.
another thing that is really interesting to think about is that certain pieces that might be hyper trendy in mainstream fashion right now, are actually timeless within the subculture they are deriving from. For example, certain items originating from gothic fashion are very trendy right now, but for true goths they have been staple pieces ever since the 70s!
- meaning they can be timeless, but not with every style
Exactly. Like the vintage clothes is trendy but the people who travel, it’s a staple.
I'm interested in seeing what popular styles of garments of the last decade (including the ones now) will hold up maybe 10 years from now and stand the test of time.
When the pieces we consider timeless were made, I don't think people at the time thought they were gonna be "timeless". As far as I can tell, a lot of what we consider "timeless" today is practical, versatile and accessible. There are certainly garments that fit all these parameters that are trendy. So I wonder-- if Tiktok wasn't a thing and trend cycles were slower would there be a greater potential for pieces to outlive their "eras" ?
Corsets are literally one of the only pieces of clothing that are still around after hundreds of years even being extremely uncomfortable. 😅 I think it deserves a spot in the timeless list
considering birkenstocks I feel like the Arizona style is by far the most timeless, Boston has only recently been discovered and worn as general shoes, for many older Germans the Boston is a very generic "gardening shoe" or "around the house slipper". It's surprisingly popular with nurses as workwear shoes but apart from that I don't see them as timeless at all.
great video, agree with most except for the camo, I personally don't like wearing them, but my dad always used camo since he served for my country and it pulls off a really solid and timeless look
When deciphering between trendy and timeless it's so important to look beyond social media and what is worn in your country/generation. As someone who lives in Australia, the Asics Gel Kayano has continued to be timeless since I was little. They have maintained to be worn since I can remember and often just move with time and as new models come out (whilst it still being acceptable to wear older models). Every time I come to buy a new running shoe, they're always in the mix of options. Another example would be leather pants. They are definitely a lot of people's styles and continue to be worn by all generations. They definitely had there time in early 2022 when they become more of a trend but that doesn't take away from the fact that they have always been worn and continue to be worn by many people, in all different styles. One more is Salamon's, they have been worn and popular within Australia for a long time now and were only brought to light by social media in 2022. I think they will remain to be worn by a lot of people and could be considered a staple in a lot of Australian households.
I am also Australian, and hard agree with those damn Asics. Even though they’re sort of known for being an unattractive shoe, they remain most people’s go-to running shoe, and by far the most consistent and widely available option in stores. I think they are ugly as hell, and yet I own 3 pairs right now (and wear them regularly).
i think crocs will become timeless in a sense that nurse's shoes are timeless because even after they are not "trendy" they will continue to be functional
Focusing on oxfords/button shirts: I think the fit of the oxford makes all the difference in whether it's considered trendy or timeless. Two trendy examples: 1. The slim-fit, narrow-arm chambray shirts from American Apparel. If someone is wearing that shirt in a fit today, I think they'll look like they're straight out of 2011. 2. An oversized, camp-collar, boxy oxford from MF Pen or Our Legacy. Definitely feels of the moment and something that will scream 2022 in due time. I guess your same observation of the "happy medium" fit for jeans could probably apply for "timeless" here.
Wide-fitting pants are generally wayyy more flattering on people who happen to have my body type, an example of how trends *should* work, where you see people wearing something & it works so well on you that people don't really notice your clothing when it's no longer a trend
this guys doesnt miss ngl
I love how in youtube videos like these everyone gets into such a deep and thoughtful debate which is really enjoyable, especially when you're scrolling through the comments looking at everyone's opinions and taking them in.
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As someone who wears mainly colour and print, colour and print are one of the things that are very trendy. You can immediately tell what era something is from, simply based on the colour. However, black and white is so boring to me, so i only wear colour.
The flannel is a Canadian staple just gotta go with one that has natural tones with a bit of colour n you’re set
Regarding what you said about short skirts, I agree that a mini skirt is an over-exaggerated and trendy look. However, when you think of your point about work wear, a black shorter skirt I think is a very very classic look, that embodies the styles of working women (I imagining this wool skirt I have in my closet that is extremely timeless when worn in the winter or with tights and a blazer). I would appreciate next time more focus on women's clothing.
Pleated tennis skirts i find to be pretty timeless. And combat boots! Was surprised those weren't mentioned.
I’d love for you to dive deeper into women’s timeless fashion because I have the impression that the fluctuation of trends is so much higher in this regard but still some pieces survive over the years.
I remember seeing my younger cousins start wearing Crocs within the last couple years and I was MAD, lol. Why couldn’t they have been popular 15 years ago when I was rockin ‘em. 😭
Unisex: tote bags
For ladies:
Mary Jane flats
Mini floral dresses (long)
Woven straw baskets, woven totes bags
Blue denim mini skirt
French girl style from the 60s
I guess timeless pieces can be very trendy as well - like the Birkenstock Boston, which maybe has been around for a long time but has not been regarded a fashion piece until last year. I would even argue that the claim of timelessness itself is somewhat a trend right now. Sustainability being a claim many companies make in their ads goes hand in hand with them selling “timeless“ products that are supposed to last for years and always look good.
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The super short skirts look is cute but so impractical. They never stay down and when you sit they wrinkle up. They look great for photos but not for long time wear. I think this brings me to the thought that anything that only looks good in photos or short term wear tends to be more trendy than timeless.
Those boots in the background fiyaaah
I can say corsets are timeless. It goes waaay back and it just look good.
It's funny, as a teenagers I used to be super into labels and trends as must of us at that age are very swayed by what's hot. As I've aged into my early twenties I still love fashion just as much but my wardrobe now focuses on timeless pieces, materials and cuts. I love vintage shopping for that purpose too. I'm way more discerning with each purchase and always think about how it will serve me in my wardrobe. I love it!
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To determine timelessness we really juts have to see what’s remained in style even if silhouettes have changed. Jeans, sneakers, sweaters. On a macro scale it’s pretty easy to determine what’s timeless
i never comment on youtube videos, but i just have to say, this is definitely one of the most engaging videos i've seen in a while! i feel as though all of our attention spans have only decreased as a result of social media, but i didn't want this video to end, and i learned a lot! thank you for making worth while content! definitely subscribing, also yes to pt 3!
This is the first video I’ve watched from you and omg you give off such a comforting vibe and the way you speak makes me want to sit down and listen. YOU ARE AMAZING
A classic fleece is the patagonia synchilla
Trendy vs timeless also has a lot to do with styling. Mohair/fuzzy sweaters have been around in women’s wear forever. They look very trendy is specific patterns (checkers or wavy stripes) or when styled in a hyper trendy instagram way but can look very natural and timeless when incorporated long term into someone’s more stable personal style. Camo goes in and out of trend but look v timeless on people with a personal style that suits it when styled in not a hyper trendy instagramy way.
Holy smokes, this is one very solid list. I'm a more of a Timeless kind of man but would love to experiment with the Trendy ones from time to time. This is an amazing follow up from the first one you made before, I'm hoping for a part 3 if possible. Thank you so much for this list! Currently having the huge urge to check up my wardrobe right now.
Regarding subbed vs dubbed, here are the only animes that I would consider better as dubbed; Dragon Ball and Naruto. The rest are fine as subbed, that's all!
my whole mindset for being "fashionable" is being independent with what you think looks good on you. and when that isn't trendy, that's good, even when you're called "unfashionable". match colors, textures, patterns, and fits for what you like, not what trends tell you too. cuz that Nirvana t-shirt bucket hat combo is so stupid
Imo as a fleece enjoyer myself I personally think they’re relatively new but will evolve to be timeless; they can work with almost any other timeless essentials and it’s really the current styling with other trendy pieces and the crazy designs that are making them trendy at the moment.
Imma have to disagree on camo being a trend. Majority of the camo patterns on clothing are based on the ERDL (leaf pattern) and the Woodland pattern; both used way back during the 70s and even through the 2000s. The Dickies and the Carharrt jackets are also timeless too. For one, workwear will forever be timeless and another is that both jacket silhouettes are pretty classic too along with it's utility and history.
For anime, it's doesn't matter for me, the captions will always be on either way lul. If im working, it will be dubbed; but if not, I'm usually watching it subbed.
I think it really depends on the type of Camo and what piece of clothing it's on. the woodland camo is a great pattern compared to Digital camo, but I would rather wear it on cargo pants than on a puffer jacket.
The fact that camo has been fulfilling a "work role" for ages doesn't mean it been a part of mainstream clothes for all that time.
It didn't really start becoming a part of "normal" clothes (used outside actual army wear) until the mid 00's. Yes, some people's were rocking it as normal wear before, but it was almost the opposite of trendy.
I loved this video. The pace
you’re talking in makes everything easy to understand and feel thought through and easy to follow. This video is just so good! Wow!
what I've got from this is "timeless" is mostly pieces of clothing that people who are not that into fashion or really safe with their fashion choices wear
It’s chai all the way for me!! Glad to see you’re doing well, I plan on moving to NYC in August and seeing you makes me feel so much better about it
I love headphones, I hate air pods. Headphones are much more practical. It’s also nice that people can tell when you are listening to something. Someone might not see that you have air pods in your ears. For example wearing headphones at the gym, you don’t have to worry about them falling off. I think they are timeless. Trendy right now yes, but overall timeless.. I had headphones before I even had an iPhone.
I feel like for me these h&m and bershka cargo 'baggy' jeans are very trendy rn. And Adidas samba are very trendy right now yes, but in my opinion they are also timeless bc my mother wore them like 15 years ago and they were in too.The onitsuka tiger shoes are really great!! Thank you for that video.
Corsets are actually timeless bc they are never really out of style, what is trendy is how you wear it
Great video, I think this sort of objectively “arbitrary” classification of items between timeless and trendy kinda helps reduce the negative stigma the word trendy has in parts of the fashion community. Ik that probably wasn’t your goal but I hear so many people/creators describing something as timeless or trendy and then ascribing a negative connotation to the latter. It just a little bit annoying bc if you enjoy something enough it shouldn’t matter either way, but it can still fall into one of those categories without it being a “bad” thing
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I wanted to touch on the subject of denim jackets, whether or not they are a 'timeless piece'. I truly believe like fish in the sea, there's a denim jacket out there that is perfect to each individual. Keeping this in mind when deciphering all of the variants of denim jackets shall lead to the timeless piece for YOU. My denim jacket is fitted and girly, with a scalloped collar. This is not the standard however for my wardrobe it absolutely is.
I was agreeing with most of this list but I’m sorry to tell you drew, leather pants are timeless. Obviously newer brands are trying to make a resurgence of them which kind of tarnish their image but people have religiously wore leather pants for a long time. (bikers, rockstars, some western wear, etc.)
I think a big reason of why I say this is because I feel that certain silhouettes are seen as more trendy but there are just some materials that are the definition of timeless. (Leather, denim, corduroy, cotton, knits, and obviously other materials I can’t think of lol)
Im a knitter and crocheter and mohair is definitely timeless in the knitting world
I’d definitely say oversized is timeless especially for the bigger people!!
I think that band shirts no matter the band can be pretty classic and timeless if the print is done with ink so that it affectively ages with the shirt because no matter how obscure the band is or how loss the reference is you still have a cool graphic T
i would argue that the workwear jackets like carhartt are timeless. they are “generational” and durable pieces that can be worn your whole life and passed on. you went on to say that varsity jackets are timeless for “X” reason but that same reason could be applied to the workwear
I think the timeless vs trendy thing also depends on where you're from. Like I grew up in the countryside so ofc loose fitting jeans and boot cuts are a timeless staple, same with trucker hats.
Also I find that I enjoy the more classic animes (Naruto, one piece, bleach, jojos, etc) dubbed over the newer ones, except bnha and assassination classroom , I really like the dubbed version of those.
This is a really interesting video. Re: mohair, I would argue that mohair sweaters in their 2022 incarnation, while inarguably trendy, are different from vintage mohair sweaters which I consider as timeless as the workwear or the varsity jacket. Something like a 1960s cropped mohair cardigan in a neutral tone has an evergreen wearability and basic layering function (think of a Betty Draper look or the cardigan worn by Beth Harmon in The Queen's Gambit). Even the mohair cardigan worn by Kurt Cobain in the MTV Unplugged is an iconic piece that in many ways functions as a flannel does. Perhaps what causes the mohair look to veer into trendiness is the use of certain colors (kelly green) or patterns (florals). That's my mohair essay thank you for listening
I’d say for camo, it depends on what piece it is. A real canvas army jacket is pretty awesome and timeless (especially if it comes from a family member), but just some corporate produced t or puffer is trendy.
no mention of chinos? definitely timeless
another way I look at trendy vs timeless is how many times, and in what different ways can you style that piece of clothing. for example, a racing jacket is something a person might only wear a few times a year top which makes it trendy
I think that a lot of the trends nowadays are just throwbacks of the past and it feels like the more we move on with these so called trends we are just gonna stay stuck in a loop. I am not saying that it is bad but I get that it is super hard to find new and groovy ideas to make a trend out of. I myself do love cropped jackets and oversized items but sometimes it doesn't feel like I'm apart from the rest. the moment I feel like I'm falling into a trend, I no longer feel like its a trend since everyone is doing, therefore becoming basic. these timeless pieces are good but now whilst writing this, I am curious to see how the perception of a timeless wardrobe will change in the future if it will change.
Interesting takes. Not sure you are applying the same logic consistently to each category or item and think you may also be letting your own tastes enter the decison making. But it is interesting. I think it also has to be considered that things that are classics come into and out of fast 'trendy' fashion themselves which muddies the water. I think for example workwear items are much more timeless than you give them credit for. They and some particular brands have had a revival where things get saturated for a while but then it goes back to timeless, it doesnt easily fall past that and into unfashionable. Whereas something like cord trousers has at times fallen well into the unfashionable and then risen again. I personally think that is the best way to judge if something is timeless. How far it fluctuates from centre. Similar to how you approach silhouettes. Jeans are timeless, straight cut jeans are the most timeless because skinny and baggy have harder rises and falls. Thanks for the video.
Do you think there is a big difference between timeless/trendy fashion in the US vs in other (western) countries?
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Man!!! I cannot tell you enough how much I have learned from you. Thank you for teaching me how to create a timeless wardrobe! I appreciate you