The real agenda behind NATO's accusations against China
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Leaders from over 30 countries gathered in Washington from July 9 to 11 to mark the NATO's 75th anniversary and issued a declaration that mentioned China a record 14 times. This time, China was labeled a "decisive enabler" of the Russia-Ukraine conflict and accused of posing systemic challenges to Euro-Atlantic security. What is the true intention behind making China the new bogeyman of NATO? And will it work?
The guests of this edition of "The Point" are:
Zhou Bo,
Senior Fellow
Center for International Security and Strategy
Tsinghua University
Anton Fedyashin,
Associate Professor of History
American University
Prof. John Gong,
Vice President
University of International Business and Economics-Israel
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This is what I have never understood. What exactly is NATO trying to accomplish here? The USSR fell and they had an opportunity to work with Russia, and Russia even asked to join NATO but was denied. While the USSR was gone the NATO propaganda machine with the red scare and cold war rhetoric continued and only became stronger. Decades of cultural and financial warfare from NATO which came together when NATO put people into Ukraine to ensure voting went their way.
It was after that Russia knew that there would be no going back especially since the first thing Zelensky's government did is put massive tariffs on Russian goods going through its country. This not only caused major spikes of oil and gas in all of Europe but also basically blocked Russia form the Black Sea, this was the real first shot in the war. It wasn't with bullets but very clearly to sabotage Russia's economy. It also created major issues for many countries food security.
So to avoid NATO from setting up a major military outpost in Crimea and further sabotaging the Russian economy Russia struck first. Which the English speaking media, of course, put it as if Russia attacked first and yes technically they where the first to shoot bullets but the fact that NATO had been sabotaging them with political and economical warfare was of course not mentioned.
NATO is trying to do the exact same thing with China. It bought itself into Taiwan and is filling it up with billions worth of weapons and holding military parades just a few miles of China's mainland. Luckily for everyone in the world Taiwan is and Island and China doesn't have to worry too much about a land invasion from NATO.
It is a common tactic employed by NATO and its allies. If a country somewhere refuses to "open its markets" to western investment they will just fund the opposition and run targeted social media campaigns to sow unrest as they did with Hong Kong. If that fails economical sanctions, tariffs are next and if that fails they will just start a war. This is exactly why so many nations in the world are lining up to join BRICS instead of allying themselves with NATO and the west. They are sick and tired of being used like that.
There will be no victory in Ukraine until NATO GTFO's. Russia has 0 reason to leave and has plenty of people and weapons and realistically, since it didn't want this war and other than access to crimea and the black sea it has no real interest in taking Ukrainian land it just has to sit there and let NATO throw trillions of its economy away in some self righteous war that really just makes bank for weapon manufactures. Luckily Russia understands this all too well so it will just sit there, maybe do an attack further in to keep NATO on its toes.
It just needs to hold out long enough for the economy in the US/EU to get so bad that their people will no longer support the half dozen wars. Honestly it baffles me that anyone can look at what NATO has been doing in Palestine and go "You know what, they are just bombing innocent civilians there but I am sure they aren't lying at all about the Ukrainian conflict!" That and of course their 20 year occupation in Afghanistan, illegal war with Iraq on a lie and half dozen other conflicts the Africa and the Middle-East it is burning its money on. Often for several decades like in Syria, Yemen and others.
And if you go back further and look what the US has done (and still does) to Latin America you will see that they have been doing this basically forever.
The rest of the world, including many of its own citizens, are sick and tired of this sh*t.
you HIT, LEFT, RIGHT, Upper CUT ; NATO politics K.O. it's like Muhammed Ali, or what are the names of those famous boxers?
@@jorisridderdevanderschuere1830yeah I keep telling yourself that BS 🤣
Spot on, well done.
Tidak ada yang bisa menjawab pertanyaan anda. Kecuali saya. Hidup bernegara tentu saja harus ada teman dan musuh. Perlu anda ketahui amerika, prancis,jerman adalah negara pengekspor senjata militer. Anda bayangkan dengan akal sehat anda sendiri. Bagaimana jika ber negara tanpa musuh. Apakah ada yang mau membeli senjata?? ini terlalu mudah untuk dijawab.
When the Soviet Union collapsed Russia wanted to join the EU not NATO. The Warsaw Pact also dissolved when the Soviet Union collapsed. The Warsaw Pact was the counter p[art to NATO. Since the Warsaw Pact did not exist any more NATO should have dissolved as it's purpose was no longer relevant. However NATO did not go away and has now been a military alliance for US hegemony.
NATO REPRESENTS USA EMPIRE
Euro-Atlantic “security” aka Euro-Atlantic imperialism
No, SECURITY. Nato has successfully provided security for its member states for 75 years. Never before has Europe witnessed such a long time of relative peace...all thanks to Nato. Go spread your unbalanced bs elsewhere
It means: Euro-Atlantic surveillance programs. Forced labor and racist policies. We know. We've been there, 80 years ago.
So does this mean NATO countries are also enablers by supplying Ukraine with money and weapons. What hypocrits.
the US-led wests think that by virtue of controlling the medias, they can literally lied and people be foolish to agree : they forgot there's Russian and Chinese voices that can be heard :
Nato countries are always hypocrites.
It's not the countries themselves, it's their Administrations, Which can't do anything without US help. (Tech advancements, Cloud computing) The whole service sector relies on US hard-and software. I sometimes wonder, if our Office workers still can write with a pencil. in case a power plant went offline.Or if they could organize repairs.
“Manufacturing consent”
Because they envy CHINA
US too enviously CHINAs success
envy jealousy hate
NATO does what is told by the US ..end of story ....
😂😂😂😂
us FEARS COMPETITION- IT HAS TO BE THE ONLY POWER! THAT IS THE ISSUE!!
Hello China, have you ever considered why the US and its vassals keep on scapegoating China? The answer lies in 2 factors, which are, (1) they are basically racists and (2) China through your own non-confrontational actions were perceived by the average Americans and Europeans as cowards.
不仅北约,世界上大多数国家都反对中国。中国侵略和压迫菲律宾和越南等邻国,夺取不属于中国的领土,但仍然这样做,因为它比小国大。中国人民已经认清了共产主义的邪恶。
Look, you can be brave for as long as you want, but if it becomes stupid, you should stop. That is absolutely confirmed scientific health advice, and i can make up several surveils, statistics and polls to prove it.
Why doesn't Europe want to benefit from trading with Russia and China by growing a more stable global economy, don't they realize that they are isolating themselves from the potential prosperity of trading with massive markets? Russia may not be a massive market yet, but given the chance for fair global trade access, Russia also has huge potential as a growing market.
USA is not happy, UE is USA's provinces today, and UE has lost its sovereignity.
@@january10005 You mean EU not UE.
The USA has only always gained greatly by setting up a world in which others fail.
The last time the USA gained big time, was after the USA had played its own still relatively small part in setting up Imperialist Europe for failure 100 years ago, starting around 1900 in small steps, using the divide and rule technique of power and from a position of unassailable geographical favor (the geographical reality can also be stated using other words, such as "competing from advantageous ground"/RAND Report, 2019).
How are American leaders going to get Eurasian states/countries, incl. their own "friends" in the EU, and the rising East Asian part of BRICS, to go "down" again so the good times of "50% wealth for us" (post-WW2 strategy/McKennan) can continue? How can the USA cobtinue to attract and rake in all the runaway talent from everywhere else as these regions are destroyed by crises and war (brain drain), and as these wars are funded by the post-1913 fiat currency dollar hegemony? (see footnote)
How can US leadership avoid having to deal with the *OWN divided-and-ruled population* when they can no longer be pacified by throwing heaps of luxury into their laps, getting successively disgruntled as the amount of afforded wealth is decreasing yearly, and ever-more unevenly siphoned off within the own system (1% owning 50% of wealth in the USA). How to keep everybody else on the planet "exhausted" and "extended," all the while pretending to be friends?
_Note that the current rising anger within the USA is no longer ground on moral inequalities, such as the large uprisings in the 1960s, and 1970s. The current anger on the the streets, is overwhelming carried by a massive inequality within the OWN country, with the mega-rich encroaching on the own small amounts of acquired wealth in ever more outrageous and openly advocated and politically backed corporate steps. These private equity vultures that were once set loose on the entire planet, are now coming "home to roost"..._
Obviously, unlike the post-WW2 "good ol' days" there is not enough to pass around anymore, as other nations rise and start demanding a fairer share of the world's resources.
WHAT. ARE. THEY. GOING. TO. DO?
Answer: _They are already doing it._ Implement the "divide and rule"-technique of power, both abroad as well as over the own people, same as ever since they existed.*
footnote
Money is simply a tender, which is used to allocate the resources of the planet, which are limited. "Control" the money = "control" the resources. It doesn't need a ton of books to explain what money is. Money is simply a tender, which is used to allocate the resources of the planet, which are limited. "Control" the money/currency = "control" the resources. There. Did it in twenty seconds 😂
That is the system YOU cheer for as "best that can be done."
"If you're not at the table in the international system, you're going to be on the menu," February 17th 2024, US Secretary of State Blinken. _If you don't got the money honey,_ YOU are going to be eaten, if YOU don't unite with your neighbors, regardless of their class, religious beliefs, race or ethnity, place of birth, language, culture or other easily implemented "divides" such as "lines drawn on a map" which are often politically exploited to the gain of the "top tiers."
*Money is a vehicle to allocate resources. It's the physical resources which are limited, and who controls the flow of printable money, controls the flow of resources.*
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very informative. Presenter is very knowledgable to ask very good questions to those experts.
China does not have justify its relationship with Russia to NATO. It NATO who is the aggressor, but its also losing badly in Ukraine. The EU needs to regain some sovereignty.
How can Nato loose if they are not even in Ukraine? Nato countries deliver weapons for the ukainians to defend themselves against the russian aggression. Get your facts straight.
China is quite naïve , if she believes that the hostility of NATO and the West are going to abate!; The EU has become part and parcel of the US Empire of which NATO is the aggressive military arm.
China seems to be trying to excuse itself from foreign accusations instead of taking a firm positive stance on various subjects. what would be interesting to know is what China can do to effectively protect its interests its lands and people against western aggression.
You can’t stop ppl from badmouthing you. Accusations are just accusations. China shouldn’t be too aggressive as they don’t need to justify anything to the world
Beautiful dress. I’m an anarchist, so will never support China’s panopticon or NATO’s panopticon, but China today has clearly a much more decent and dignified culture than vulgar NATO countries. In many ways you are more culturally conservative than US Republicans, so you should be able to gain support from true rightwing people if you create non-woke and non-vulgar popular culture (movies, tv series and MMORPGs) for a Western audience.
Who cares about how you feel? Or what you are?
As NATO countries global role diminishes, it "hangs on" to the U.S. coattails and complains about China. NATO is not a defensive organization. Money spent of military efforts helps defense contractors but reduces how much can be spent on education, infrastructure, health programs, etc.. If a conflict does not occur, that is money that goes down the drain.
Lol NATO has just got two new members and is going global but somehow you're saying it's diminishing? LOL!!!🤣
@@TacticalMayo😂😂😂 .... Ever heard of BOOM and BUST ???
@@ikafmedia2007 ever heard of utter bs?
@@michaelsrensen3398.. yeah, so many.
@@ikafmedia2007 seems like it got to you
Why was My comment censored 🤬🤦🏾♂️
U tube, Facebook. Only western views
Happens often on YT and FB. There is something set up (by YT and FB) to immediately delete comments that has certain content and words which goes against the western mainstream. Next time try and refresh your browser after commenting and see if your comment disappears.
Because TH-cam is American and freedom of speech is for Americans. No one else.
@@kennethkong5484as it should be because it is Western. If you don't like it, make your own and get the f*** off of our social media platforms.
normal.
Thanks for the good laugh.
Imagine being scare of the avengers. Spiderman is the REAL criminal 😂
That is the logic here...
Some advises to you 刘欣.
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india is not "neutral" or "non alliance." india only looked "neutral and innocent." india is constantly claiming itself to be "friendly and harmless." In fact india is good at using and playing one side against the other side and again using and playing the other side against the one side. And this is india.
NATO: China China China China
China: Thankyou, Thankyou, Thankyou, Thankyou, Thankyou, Thankyou
I find this program very informative from the diversity of insights. However, I feel time is too tight, and speakers may need to have time frames better clarified to them by the program director. Hopefully thiese issues can be rectified, thanks.
"Why is Nato's hostility towards China growing"? Very simple China, look in the mirror.
China🤗👋🇷🇴. NATO 🤮😱💩🙈
Wow....convincing arguments
What everyone wants to know is why China's actions results global concerns and distability. You need to reflect on your self.
Hello World
Ok, YT did not remove this comment. Just testing.
The trouble with superheroes is that they need super villains in order to justify their existence.
Verbal Hypnotism.
Jealousy
Too much censorship in here. Writing the truth on what NATO has done got consored repeatedly.
Profits from arms sales..since no countries could spare 2% budget
Allow your guests to finish themselves or don't invite them ffs. Liu Xin you keep interrupting your guests in 10-30 seconds, either increase the duration of the interview or reduce the number of guests due to the time constraint.
Dear Wikipedia. If you don't know this channel is funded IN WHOLE, then you don't know. If you don't know it is funded IN PART, then you don't know. Please don't insult us with the "OR". All the or says is YOU DON"T KNOW!!
Its all of it 😂
To add to discussion on NATO moving part of its capacity to the Pacific, I suspect it is trying to position itself for a bargain with Trump if be becomes President- support in the Pacific against China in exchange for Trump's support of NATO's war against Russia in the Ukraine.
don't called it nato use your mind
F nato😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Because it is not NATO but an extension of US military.
Keep playing the game, I am watching through my window.
The microprocessor's factories are running on high speed with my invented algorithm.
This is how i imagine a bullys youtube channel would look like. Just lie after lie 😂
It is a funny watch but also scary because they are very out of touch
bad losers.
为什么?揣着明白装糊涂😂
but nato against with China Russia and nato Poland foreign minister says this war still Ukraine can win
You buy their Bullshit?
@@samliew6610 take it as it is, bs.
This is what I have never understood. What exactly is NATO trying to accomplish here? The USSR fell and they had an opportunity to work with Russia, and Russia even asked to join NATO but was denied. While the USSR was gone the NATO propaganda machine with the red scare and cold war rhetoric continued and only became stronger. Decades of cultural and financial warfare from NATO which came together when NATO put people into Ukraine to ensure voting went their way.
It was after that Russia knew that there would be no going back especially since the first thing Zelensky's government did is put massive tariffs on Russian goods going through its country. This not only caused major spikes of oil and gas in all of Europe but also basically blocked Russia form the Black Sea, this was the real first shot in the war. It wasn't with bullets but very clearly to sabotage Russia's economy. It also created major issues for many countries food security.
So to avoid NATO from setting up a major military outpost in Crimea and further sabotaging the Russian economy Russia struck first. Which the English speaking media, of course, put it as if Russia attacked first and yes technically they where the first to shoot bullets but the fact that NATO had been sabotaging them with political and economical warfare was of course not mentioned.
NATO is trying to do the exact same thing with China. It bought itself into Taiwan and is filling it up with billions worth of weapons and holding military parades just a few miles of China's mainland. Luckily for everyone in the world Taiwan is and Island and China doesn't have to worry too much about a land invasion from NATO.
It is a common tactic employed by NATO and its allies. If a country somewhere refuses to "open its markets" to western investment they will just fund the opposition and run targeted social media campaigns to sow unrest as they did with Hong Kong. If that fails economical sanctions, tariffs are next and if that fails they will just start a war. This is exactly why so many nations in the world are lining up to join BRICS instead of allying themselves with NATO and the west. They are sick and tired of being used like that.
There will be no victory in Ukraine until NATO GTFO's. Russia has 0 reason to leave and has plenty of people and weapons and realistically, since it didn't want this war and other than access to crimea and the black sea it has no real interest in taking Ukrainian land it just has to sit there and let NATO throw trillions of its economy away in some self righteous war that really just makes bank for weapon manufactures. Luckily Russia understands this all too well so it will just sit there, maybe do an attack further in to keep NATO on its toes.
It just needs to hold out long enough for the economy in the US/EU to get so bad that their people will no longer support the half dozen wars. Honestly it baffles me that anyone can look at what NATO has been doing in Palestine and go "You know what, they are just bombing innocent civilians there but I am sure they aren't lying at all about the Ukrainian conflict!" That and of course their 20 year occupation in Afghanistan, illegal war with Iraq on a lie and half dozen other conflicts the Africa and the Middle-East it is burning its money on. Often for several decades like in Syria, Yemen and others.
And if you go back further and look what the US has done (and still does) to Latin America you will see that they have been doing this basically forever.
The rest of the world, including many of its own citizens, are sick and tired of this sh*t.
@@Souchirouu Global RE-domination....They are still dreaming of colonising the rest of the world like what their ancestors did. With NATO, they believe they can formed a BIG European power and again invading and conquering Asia, Africa, South America and even Russia and China. They never did grow out of their colonial mindsets.
More fake crap
For the record, I have been known to have opposed every NATO expansion from the early 90s until February 2022, when Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine changed my recommendation to NATO to admit Sweden and Finland. And, as I noted in a February 23, 2022 video, what Vladimir Putin did was to make NATO necessary for at least 10 more years. Note that my basic views of Russia-Ukraine relations were much closer to Vladimir Putin’s than to NATO’s policies until February 2022. Russia’s war on Ukraine changed much. My views on various China-NATO issues are known. I won’t repeat them here.
NATO has no expiration date. It's purpose from the beginning was to divide US occupied western Europe from Russia, so that it could continue to dominate it economically and politically in perpetuity. So long as the American economy is faltering, NATO will double down on its hostility to Russia and everything they have done since the 1990s proves that. The Ukrainian war started iin 2014 with the NATO orchestrated overthrow of its last genuine democratic government - perhaps you missed that?
I think maybe racism has a lot to do with it.
Yet they are ready to fight for Chinese in Taiwan.
So racist.....