My Man!!!! A true technician not only follows the steps in troubleshooting guide... They are also aware of other issues that can present the same symptoms. In other words.. They know their $h!t!!! Great job brother
Excellent work there Arod! I literally could not take my eyes off the video. I thought I might miss something 🤣 this was a great example of education, expertise and technical experience. Man I need to take a break after this one 😁👍🏼👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
It's too bad that all techs don't go thru the process like you do. Keep up the great videos, even tho I don't have a diesel, and have the 7.3 gasser, I still enjoy watching your videos!
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I got 2 of the 3 holes cleared on the one I'm working on. If that's not enough, we're replacing the lower intake. Video of the cleaning process would have been nice. Pointing out the problem area was a huge help regardless. Thank you.
I had the same problem on a 2019 ambulance at 25,000 miles. The dealer tech did the tsb, replaced the core and put a new egr valve and mass air flow sensor on it. This took 2 months. What fixed it? Cleaning the intake ports you showed!!!! In addition we also had a plugged ccv filter. I now replace the ccv filter every 15000 miles, when it starts using oil i know it is plugged! I don't know if a plugged ccv filter is a contributing factor? But it can't be good to plug the ccv filter and start drinking oil! With a good ccv filter there is zero oil usage. Keep in mind this is on an ambulance with excessive idle time. I can't change the way it's used. Thanks for highlighting this issue! It is an easy fix.
Happens a lot. Techs don't go far enough when performing the first step in the pinpoint test. Normally they will stop at the turbo looking for intake restrictions.
Just cleaned my throttle body and inside the intake on my 2017 Super Duty. P0401 code is gone and running fine. Took about an hour from start to finish. Great video.
The MAF is also used for limiting the total amount of fuel to be injected. Lambda is calculated based on the MAF data and converted into g/s of airflow. grams of air mixed with grams of fuel = X lambda.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod You're right, this specific video you are calculating EGR flow based on the decrease in MAF or Mass air flow. I'm simply saying the MAF is used for calculating the total available airflow to be burned which ultimately is lambda limiting. If you still don't believe me I'd be more than willing to talk/prove it to you! Cheers!
So I’m working on a 2015 throwing a p2201…. Only if it sits over night…. I have replaced nox1 because it was reading high. Updated pcm programming, tested all wiring, even cleaned the ports in the intake where ERG flows, now today we replaced the EGR valve… that’s what diagnosis told us to do….. am I missing something…. ?? Thanks for the videos…. They have helped me in our shop.
I had P0401 on my daily driven (commuter in SoCal) 2019 F250 6.7 around 45K mileage. Drivability was weird, loss of power and response in light throttle driving, still performed normally at higher throttle driving, Mpg suffered and transmission would not lockup converter at light throttle conditions. I cleaned MAP sensor with acetone soak and delicate q-tip agitation, cleared code. Drivability improved to good as new for 5K miles. Same code came back at 50K mileage, took to dealer and they recalibrated the PCM and cleared code. At 55K mileage drivability issues resurfaced. I cleaned MAP sensor again and drivability was restored to as new. No code has displayed since PCM updated. Very annoying that MAP clogs so quickly. Going to try S&B MAP spacer next with a new sensor next time drivability issue resurfaces.
I still get the po41c on my 2020.. Ill check this. Thanks. And, the EGR cooler core went bad at 105k. Actually found some broken washers in the front section of it.
i had this same code on my 2018....the cleared it once and it came back....they then told me a TSB on this issue, and fixed...so far so good well see, id rather have had YOU fix it.....where are you? im in ST LOUIS
After your videos in the past about this, I cleaned that area out along with the butterfly flap when changing the CAC tube at 100k for preventative maintenance. That was one dirty and nasty job!! I wasn’t having problems but feels good to have it clean and work as intended. I also replaced the MAP sensor since it was plugged and cleaning it did not work. Regens happen less now and it sure made the truck seems smoother / more responsive. You rock! Seems like a good thing to check on.
I think this exactly the problem I'm having. Mine is 17 model, got the light, took off the throttle body which was caked up like the one your working on. I cleaned it and vacuumed up the material. Engine light went out for awhile then came back on. I didn't see those ports you pointed out so I will recheck to make sure they are clear. This started when I noticed the intercooler hose split. Will the engine code light go off if cleaning those ports out is the problem or do I need to have a reset. Thanks this was a really helpful video
Lots of carbon build up caused the problem, ports in the upper intake? clogged behind the throttle body. Read the other comments. High idle time caused the carbon to build up.
Question, 11-16’s lots of trouble with po401…replace the filters or the whole cooler? Are the 2017 filters the same size as the 11-16’s, and can the 17’s be used in place of the original ones?
I think you solved my problem!!! Do have a question. What was the trick to get that plastic piece off that secures the hose? I see there is a hose clamp to remove the hose. But not the plastic housing. I don’t think I can get a socket on without removing it.
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Can you tell me why a dealership would want me to pay for a repair when there’s a TSB for the issue? When probed they hadn’t submitted to Ford yet. Are TSB covered? Do they pay less?
TSB is just a repair instruction set. More than anything it is a way to save steps and money whether it's in warranty or out. TSB can, and often is, a short lived document that gets put into the service instructions set after a bit.
When you command egr operation up shouldn't the truck start running bad at idle ? Have a 2016 6.7 and has had 2 egr valves installed, cooler looks clear . 40k miles on truck .I've commanded egr position up and down and no change in idle or maf ?
So i checked these ports after lunch when I left these questions, turns out my ports were absolutely crammed full. 2016 40k miles , no wonder egr operation had 0 affect on operation.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod they weren't had no idea the inside was designed like that it was absolutely jammed. Could see 0 light from flashlight from other end. Working on unclogging now.
What can you donor use that would assist in preventing maintenance to keep EGR system as a whole cleaner or happier? We daily a 16 for now since we RV and when we are working, the tow pig is our 2nd daily driver. So it seems more lower speed daily driver usage and then occasionally highway use. I do use EDT in the fuel every fill up but that's a CP4 concern helper more than anything.
2019 f250 here… cleaned all that gunk out as well, truck started up first time a little rocky… gave it gas and it died after settling… started up second time and it died right after as well, now it just cranks, but won’t start. do i need to relearn TB or do some sort of reset? thanks
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARodAny suggestions as to what may have happened or what to check for? i did remove the throttle body to clear the gunk from the lower intake and just scraped the build up from there and the throttle body itself. Thank you
Question for my 2013 6.7l. I drive 99% highway, speeds roughly 90khm to 120khm. Would I see less issues in this department than driving at lower speeds?. I keep my engine Temps at optimum Temps and notice very little regens on my dpf considering I don't drive short little drives.. My 6.0 had no issues at all. 600,000 khms on it and rising..
What is the difference because the 6.7 pickup and 6.7 cab and chassis You mentioned for the egr one is aluminum and one is cast iorn And your commonly replacing the cast iorn one why wouldn't they just Use the aluminum one on the cab and chassis
I just got a CEL on my 21 6.7 F250 and in FordPass it says "The power train control system has detected the expected amount of oxygen in the exhaust was not within the expected range during certain vehicle operating conditions". I obviously haven't had a chance to get the code read, but does that sound similar?
Can you do a video on a reoccurring P0087? I drive an F450 6.7 that pops that code multiple times a day. Boss says clear it and keep going. New lift pump and regulator already done. Help?
Does this apply to a 2021 F750 w/the 6.7? Getting random code, engine light comes and goes randomly. When she derates under code, a restart usually gets power back. She has 53k on her. Problem began at 43k ish immediately following an oil change. Oil changes are pretty consistent at 4,300 miles.
And all that crap goes into the motor. All the reason to delete....EGR, DPF, DEF, TB, CCV....all unnecessary junk. Everytime I change the oil on the 6.7, it's a nasty black compared to my 7.3 PSD. All that soot goes into the motor. Hopefully after the weight loss, it'll clean up.
@@codyphillips48 Thanks for the heads up. From both usages, which one are you seeing the most with this issue? city (with more idle) vs highway (with less idle) drive? Thank You!
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thanks, watched it a second time to see what I missed....busy day at work...I listen to these while I work. Saw where u explained, appreciate it
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Runs like perfect once i get it restarted. After 5-6 hours of towing if I turn it off it wont restart unless I unhook the bats. Then fires right up.cranking when no start rpms are180, ICP is 1900 psi . let it set overnight and no start.Disconnected bats and fired right up. Have driving everywhere without incident now, but no real heat soak due to towing.
i have a P0402 code which is excessive flow from the egr. It's been at the dealer 4 times and still not repaired. They are now going to replace the egr valve on my 2017 SUPERDUTY with only 4600 miles on it. When I first took it in it was still under the 5 year emission warranty now it's over the warranty and they are going to bill me over one thousand dollars to replace the egr and I don't know if this will fix the problem, not too happy. Will be contacting Ford .ca shortly.
My Man!!!!
A true technician not only follows the steps in troubleshooting guide... They are also aware of other issues that can present the same symptoms.
In other words.. They know their
$h!t!!!
Great job brother
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Thank God people can bring there trucks to u, they know you will go the extra mile. Thanks ARod
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Excellent work there Arod! I literally could not take my eyes off the video. I thought I might miss something 🤣 this was a great example of education, expertise and technical experience. Man I need to take a break after this one 😁👍🏼👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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It's too bad that all techs don't go thru the process like you do. Keep up the great videos, even tho I don't have a diesel, and have the 7.3 gasser, I still enjoy watching your videos!
Oooo boi we have some 7.3 content comin up
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I’m I’m just jumping off my phone phone j
I got 2 of the 3 holes cleared on the one I'm working on. If that's not enough, we're replacing the lower intake.
Video of the cleaning process would have been nice. Pointing out the problem area was a huge help regardless. Thank you.
Cant show u all everything 😏
I had the same problem on a 2019 ambulance at 25,000 miles. The dealer tech did the tsb, replaced the core and put a new egr valve and mass air flow sensor on it. This took 2 months. What fixed it? Cleaning the intake ports you showed!!!! In addition we also had a plugged ccv filter. I now replace the ccv filter every 15000 miles, when it starts using oil i know it is plugged! I don't know if a plugged ccv filter is a contributing factor? But it can't be good to plug the ccv filter and start drinking oil! With a good ccv filter there is zero oil usage. Keep in mind this is on an ambulance with excessive idle time. I can't change the way it's used. Thanks for highlighting this issue! It is an easy fix.
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This is the second video I’ve seen you make where those egr ports were clogged in the intake and cleaning them out solved the issue. Crazy
Happens a lot. Techs don't go far enough when performing the first step in the pinpoint test. Normally they will stop at the turbo looking for intake restrictions.
Brand new F350 psd owner. Took delivery in April. Thanks for all the knowledge.
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Just cleaned my throttle body and inside the intake on my 2017 Super Duty. P0401 code is gone and running fine. Took about an hour from start to finish. Great video.
That one truck u had with the plugged intake u will never forget and you learned from it man awesome video textbook man
Nvr againnnm
Thank you for this you saved me.
Stay blessed bro
Damn son! Excellent video, wow! Keep up the great work man.
Great video Arod! Looks like that guy needs a CCV reroute!
Mmmm no not yet but something to look for. When I changed my EGR cooler. My maf sensor was dirty but not like that one.
These are the videos I like.
Yup had that problem already also good job bro
Damn that was entertaining! Awesome troubleshooting brother
Thanks dooood
Great stuff man, keep it up.
The MAF is also used for limiting the total amount of fuel to be injected. Lambda is calculated based on the MAF data and converted into g/s of airflow. grams of air mixed with grams of fuel = X lambda.
The MAF here, on these...does not make those calculations, strickly for EGR friend
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod You're right, this specific video you are calculating EGR flow based on the decrease in MAF or Mass air flow. I'm simply saying the MAF is used for calculating the total available airflow to be burned which ultimately is lambda limiting. If you still don't believe me I'd be more than willing to talk/prove it to you! Cheers!
So I’m working on a 2015 throwing a p2201…. Only if it sits over night…. I have replaced nox1 because it was reading high. Updated pcm programming, tested all wiring, even cleaned the ports in the intake where ERG flows, now today we replaced the EGR valve… that’s what diagnosis told us to do….. am I missing something…. ?? Thanks for the videos…. They have helped me in our shop.
Whats that NCCE pid in mode 6 reading?
Great detailed information!
Good find and if unit only has 65 k i can only imagine how many times this will become a problem in the future
I have a 2019 not a problem. But your adding to my tool kit if stuff like this happens in the future.
So lit 🔥 Ceeya!
And this is why you make the big bucks.
My question is by the way you’re awesome but my question is what causes that in the first place!!
What makes that issue?
I had P0401 on my daily driven (commuter in SoCal) 2019 F250 6.7 around 45K mileage. Drivability was weird, loss of power and response in light throttle driving, still performed normally at higher throttle driving, Mpg suffered and transmission would not lockup converter at light throttle conditions. I cleaned MAP sensor with acetone soak and delicate q-tip agitation, cleared code. Drivability improved to good as new for 5K miles. Same code came back at 50K mileage, took to dealer and they recalibrated the PCM and cleared code. At 55K mileage drivability issues resurfaced. I cleaned MAP sensor again and drivability was restored to as new. No code has displayed since PCM updated. Very annoying that MAP clogs so quickly. Going to try S&B MAP spacer next with a new sensor next time drivability issue resurfaces.
I'd be curious to see what or how that works
I still get the po41c on my 2020..
Ill check this. Thanks.
And, the EGR cooler core went bad at 105k. Actually found some broken washers in the front section of it.
Now if the ac electrical issue would just fix itself..
Whaaa
i had this same code on my 2018....the cleared it once and it came back....they then told me a TSB on this issue, and fixed...so far so good well see, id rather have had YOU fix it.....where are you? im in ST LOUIS
Come thru Detroit
After your videos in the past about this, I cleaned that area out along with the butterfly flap when changing the CAC tube at 100k for preventative maintenance. That was one dirty and nasty job!! I wasn’t having problems but feels good to have it clean and work as intended. I also replaced the MAP sensor since it was plugged and cleaning it did not work. Regens happen less now and it sure made the truck seems smoother / more responsive. You rock! Seems like a good thing to check on.
Any thoughts on cleaning/changing the Exhaust Pressure Sensor and tube? Or just leave it be?
Id just leave it be
I think this exactly the problem I'm having. Mine is 17 model, got the light, took off the throttle body which was caked up like the one your working on. I cleaned it and vacuumed up the material. Engine light went out for awhile then came back on. I didn't see those ports you pointed out so I will recheck to make sure they are clear. This started when I noticed the intercooler hose split. Will the engine code light go off if cleaning those ports out is the problem or do I need to have a reset. Thanks this was a really helpful video
Thankfully here in Alberta Canada we don't have to deal with keeping all that stuff on our trucks
You're badass sir!!! Different subject but Was looking into new injectors with no to little soot. Did you ever read that article?
Whaaaa
No one is talking about it.......
Ull have 2 email us. Beats me
Great video. Should that egr valve be venting when the engine is turned off. Happens almost every time at shutdown.
Its the bypass releasing vacuum
Worst case it needs an intake later because the carbon is too difficult to remove? Throw on a new PCV valve/filter while there.
Lots of carbon build up caused the problem, ports in the upper intake? clogged behind the throttle body. Read the other comments. High idle time caused the carbon to build up.
Idle badd
Probably a soccer mom drives it to the store and drops the kids off at school 3 blocks from home.
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Question, 11-16’s lots of trouble with po401…replace the filters or the whole cooler? Are the 2017 filters the same size as the 11-16’s, and can the 17’s be used in place of the original ones?
I think you solved my problem!!! Do have a question. What was the trick to get that plastic piece off that secures the hose? I see there is a hose clamp to remove the hose. But not the plastic housing. I don’t think I can get a socket on without removing it.
What plastic piece?
Sent you a email with a picture for reference.
Great video. If you don’t idle a lot you would not have that problem? Thanks
Also, is there anything that would prevent that even if you are idling such as fuel treatment?
No
Did you find out why the intake was plugged?🤔... Owner driving style?🤨...equipment fault?🤨...inquiring minds want to know?...later👍💪💯
Idleeeee tyme was atrocious
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Plugged intake 😆
Can you tell me why a dealership would want me to pay for a repair when there’s a TSB for the issue? When probed they hadn’t submitted to Ford yet. Are TSB covered? Do they pay less?
Depends. Tsb are not always covered.
Just like my man said
TSB is just a repair instruction set. More than anything it is a way to save steps and money whether it's in warranty or out. TSB can, and often is, a short lived document that gets put into the service instructions set after a bit.
Thanks for the info. Got a call back today, Ford is covering 60% of the bill.
When you command egr operation up shouldn't the truck start running bad at idle ? Have a 2016 6.7 and has had 2 egr valves installed, cooler looks clear . 40k miles on truck .I've commanded egr position up and down and no change in idle or maf ?
Better make sure them egr ports are clean in the lower intake.....
So i checked these ports after lunch when I left these questions, turns out my ports were absolutely crammed full. 2016 40k miles , no wonder egr operation had 0 affect on operation.
Thanks appreciate it immensely, i also got this one after several times parts were thrown at it by others.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod they weren't had no idea the inside was designed like that it was absolutely jammed. Could see 0 light from flashlight from other end. Working on unclogging now.
What can you donor use that would assist in preventing maintenance to keep EGR system as a whole cleaner or happier?
We daily a 16 for now since we RV and when we are working, the tow pig is our 2nd daily driver. So it seems more lower speed daily driver usage and then occasionally highway use.
I do use EDT in the fuel every fill up but that's a CP4 concern helper more than anything.
It wants heattttt
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod so drive it like I stole it to work....got it! 😂
2019 f250 here… cleaned all that gunk out as well, truck started up first time a little rocky… gave it gas and it died after settling… started up second time and it died right after as well, now it just cranks, but won’t start. do i need to relearn TB or do some sort of reset? thanks
No learning. Shld be running
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARodAny suggestions as to what may have happened or what to check for? i did remove the throttle body to clear the gunk from the lower intake and just scraped the build up from there and the throttle body itself. Thank you
@vaccid did some of that black stuff get sucked in.....
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod i vacuumed it all before starting up
@vaccid nahhhh some of it got sucked in. Email me. Description of every video
The CCV strikes again
Question for my 2013 6.7l. I drive 99% highway, speeds roughly 90khm to 120khm. Would I see less issues in this department than driving at lower speeds?. I keep my engine Temps at optimum Temps and notice very little regens on my dpf considering I don't drive short little drives.. My 6.0 had no issues at all. 600,000 khms on it and rising..
Ur prolly good, dry and sooty, which is good for you
If my truck ever breaks down where are you located so i can take it to you !
Bring it on thru. We are in detroit
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod awesome what the name of the shop ill ship it there seriously i dont trust anyone here in the south
Email us powerstroketechtalkwarod@gmail.com
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What is the difference because the 6.7 pickup and 6.7 cab and chassis
You mentioned for the egr
one is aluminum and one is cast iorn
And your commonly replacing the cast iorn one why wouldn't they just
Use the aluminum one on the cab and chassis
I wish they told us😔
I just got a CEL on my 21 6.7 F250 and in FordPass it says "The power train control system has detected the expected amount of oxygen in the exhaust was not within the expected range during certain vehicle operating conditions". I obviously haven't had a chance to get the code read, but does that sound similar?
I will tell u its not whats in that video
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod got it, thanks!
How do you get the interactive pids to work have been without them for a while
Ive used internet explorer
Can you do a video on PO234?
When i get 1...
Can you do a video on a reoccurring P0087? I drive an F450 6.7 that pops that code multiple times a day. Boss says clear it and keep going. New lift pump and regulator already done. Help?
Hmmmmm better get glued to my fuel system playlists 🧐
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Well I guess I should have looked before I asked huh? Thanks for pointing me in a direction.
No sweat, report back & let me know. Im sure you'll find ur issue 😉
Does this apply to a 2021 F750 w/the 6.7?
Getting random code, engine light comes and goes randomly. When she derates under code, a restart usually gets power back.
She has 53k on her. Problem began at 43k ish immediately following an oil change.
Oil changes are pretty consistent at 4,300 miles.
Yes brother
And all that crap goes into the motor. All the reason to delete....EGR, DPF, DEF, TB, CCV....all unnecessary junk.
Everytime I change the oil on the 6.7, it's a nasty black compared to my 7.3 PSD. All that soot goes into the motor. Hopefully after the weight loss, it'll clean up.
So what if it is a leak between the actuator arm and the valve? Mine is blowing soot from the top of the EGR valve under the arm.
Time to replace the EGR cooler bypass
Do you guys know by chance what's the average millage on the odometer, when these code is coming up? Have Y'All found any correlation?
Depends on how much idle and city driving you do. Emissions failure are not really a mileage thing. It's a driving habits thing.
NO correlation
@@codyphillips48 Thanks for the heads up. From both usages, which one are you seeing the most with this issue? city (with more idle) vs highway (with less idle) drive?
Thank You!
Idle is the killer broski. You have 2 under it needs heat heat heat
What’s thought on p0474 exhaust gas sensor.
So what's the difference or update with the 11-16 EGR core than the 17-up?
Bigger tubes
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thanks, watched it a second time to see what I missed....busy day at work...I listen to these while I work. Saw where u explained, appreciate it
How bout a infamous p0606 in the 7.3 powerstroke???
She still run
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Runs like perfect once i get it restarted. After 5-6 hours of towing if I turn it off it wont restart unless I unhook the bats. Then fires right up.cranking when no start rpms are180, ICP is 1900 psi . let it set overnight and no start.Disconnected bats and fired right up. Have driving everywhere without incident now, but no real heat soak due to towing.
Pencil vacuum, who makes that ?
Blue point
Was there a lot of idle time on this one
Very
WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED??
DETROIT
You know alot the 2015 Ford diesel, issues?
Huh
Most likely just idling too much
Yepp
i have a P0402 code which is excessive flow from the egr. It's been at the dealer 4 times and still not repaired. They are now going to replace the egr valve on my 2017 SUPERDUTY with only 4600 miles on it. When I first took it in it was still under the 5 year emission warranty now it's over the warranty and they are going to bill me over one thousand dollars to replace the egr and I don't know if this will fix the problem, not too happy. Will be contacting Ford .ca shortly.
I hope they help you...
All that crap making it to the turbo?