On that note I wonder what the Banks duramax set up for the military has for after treatment items, if its also on on a diet of ingesting clean air and no banana in the tail pipe ?
6.7 in my 2020 ram pickup truck has hydraulic valves which have been known to have issues. The solid lifters used in commercial engines are proven reliable. That's what I read anyway. I'm no expert
Why do new diesel engines suck,, it's a single two word answer,,,, the government... It's the answer that applies to appliances, vehicles, air conditioning, and MANY other things...
I AM SICK OF YOU MORONS. You're obviously too young and/or too stupid to understand how dirty the air and water were before the EPA(government) brought in the standards. And besides that you probably wouldn't care anyway. The companies are the ones that don't give you parts that are more easily serviceable. The government should regulate that also. The government should pass Right to Repair legislation. We can't have idiots and corporations run anything that is for the common good. And now, fools elected a more dangerous fool. Good luck, morons. America R.I.P.
Three days before 9/11 I bought my truck 2001 Dodge Ram 4 x 4 Cummins 6 speed manual 8-ft bed the truck was delivered to me with 78 Mi on it I still have it today has 460,000 miles on it and it runs as good as the dad bought it
I always wanted a diesel. I thought they sound cool, cold starts are neat. I finally bought one and it was such a HUGE headache. One day, I was driving home from work (frequent short trips) and it said, "Regen Started - Maintain Speed or Vehicle Will Go Into Limp Mode." I had to drive on the highway for like 20 minutes for that dumb regen. Doubly frustrating after finishing work and wanting to just go home. I sold it soon after. I don't think I'd ever buy a modern diesel again. I can see why all the pre-DEF diesels are selling for such a premium now.
The heart of the issue is that you can make a reliable and a relatively simple diesel engine, or you can make a diesel engine which is largely safe for the humans around it and the environment (and I'm not only talking about CO2 but also the other more directly damaging pollutants like NOx), but you can't make both at the same time. The infamous VAG "Dieselgate" emissions test defeat firmware scandal illustrates it well, since it was borne out of VAG/VW upper management refusing to believe this and mandating that the engineers had to create one which led to them faking one when it was physically impossible to do. And in principle I think that the grandfathering of pre-DPF and pre-DEF diesels should be ended outside of museum/hobby vehicles in order to permanently get them off the road, since keeping them on the road specifically to spite new diesel emissions regulations is pretty much about owners willfully poisoning everything around them in order to have cheap upkeep. For example illegalizing any rebuilding of diesel engines in commercial and personal use if they don't fully comply with the latest emissions standards.
@@meckelbu and I hope no one ever puts any one else into office that thinks like you. No one is being poisoned by older diesel engines. The environment is not destroyed by them or any better off with the new diesel engines. The entire world laughs at the regulations we have and thanks us for making their economies thrive on the backs of ordinary American workers who have to jump through ridiculous hoops to keeps their businesses functional. If any of our government believed what you say they wouldn’t have all government diesels exempt from it.
Minor correction. The 6.7 powerstroke does not push raw fuel into the dpf for regen purposes. The 6.4 did, the 6.4 would fire the injector on the exhaust stroke to fuel load the back two cylinders (7 and 8) the 6.7 will enrich fueling. But not to the extent off "raw fuel" as the previous engine. Doesn't matter what you drive. Take care of it. As a ford mechanic, I've seen all makes and models of the big three reach 300,000 plus and still go. The common denominator was care. Maintenance and inspection.
I have a 2009 Ford LCF with the rare V6 Powerstroke. My HPOP was leaking so I had to take the intake off to reseal it. The intake was so full of gunk from the EGR. I emptied 4 cans of brake clean until black stopped coming out of it. When I put the truck back together, I kid you not, it felt like it had 50% more power.
I love my 24 F350 6.7HO... I got a 10 year 0 deductible ESP warranty and it's just an amazing beast. Yes, not the most financially cheap move, but it's extremley fun to drive and will pull a house and is beautiful
Thank you for reaffirming my decision to get the 7.3L Godzilla gasser in my new 24 F250. A hell of a lot cheaper to buy, and it sure pulls my 12000lb trailer no problem.
Aside from a hole rusted in the oil pan, an ipr sensor, and a crank position sensor, and difficult cold starting. My Dad's lightly tuned 2001 7.3 has been nothing but a bullet proof workhorse. Never left him stranded, even when towing a 30ft camper around North America. He has 450 000km on it now. I have a deleted lbz too. That has over 300k on it. Aside from a few ball joints, glowplugs, breakbooster, body rust, front wheel bearing, and tierods. It still runs like new, has enough power stock to be fun to drive unloaded, and tow anything I need. I think the LBZ is the perfect compromise between performance and reliabilty. Guys have gotten over 800k on the trucks stock. At stock power the lbz is super reliable, but there is always the easy option to bring them up to 400 wheel horsepower, with just a transgo jr transmission shift kit and a good tune to keep them reliable. Then you have a rig that has close to the same power as the modern diesels but is much more reliable. Long live the pre dpf diesels!
@Original_Edition You can get 23 mpg out of a crew cab on the highway with a good tune and stock tires. If you put your foot into it though, your mpgs fall pretty fast. Lol.
A year ago I bought my dream diesel truck since I was a little kid. A 05 f350 extended cab long bed 4wd. And minus the battery cable being corroded it has been reliable. I have modded it too with the coolant filter, blue spring, full exhaust, better alternator, improved ficm, etc. Another point with older diesels is that the problems they will most likely have will be easier to troubleshoot vs a new truck. Whereas with mine you understand the oil cooler can be problematic and you can address it before it becomes a problem. New trucks to me look terrible, and minus the power train and interior/infotainment are basically the same truck from 20 years ago as I can bolt on a brand new f350 suspension to my truck.
I'd love to have a newer (emissions deleted) 6.7 PS or 6.7 cummins, but I can't afford $80k-$100k for a truck, and can't afford a check engine light coming on. But I CAN afford to keep my old 12 valve running forever, and even supplement fuel by dumping any old waste oils in the tank. I can really make 1 tank of diesel fuel last a long time.
550k miles on my 12 valve. Biggest thing I've done to it was a new 3 piece exhaust manifold after the factory one-piece manifold cracked. Could probably use new injectors, get a puff of white smoke every now and then when pulling a hill but they're still working.
I looked for a long time and found a 2007 Dodge 2500 4x4 with 5.9 Cummins. It is a southern truck with low miles. The truck had never even had a brake controller installed. I will keep it as long as possible. I have owned two 7.3 Powerstokes, 3 Cummins 5.9's, and one Cummins 6.7. I don't want any of the newer diesels. I will stick with the 5.9 or 7.3.
Another factor is the 7.3 is actually a rebadged E444T , 444 cubic inches, a trusty SAE engine. The SAE threads hold up better, are easier to work with ... and were designed by machinists instead of college graduates..
One is an I phone designed to be replaced when the new model comes out. The other is a hammer, built to work and take a hit over and over again. Really the answer is to keep the old diesels on the road running strong, then the manufacturers will get the idea that not everyone wants to ruin the environment by buying a new phone and truck every 2 years.
I test drove a new chevy with the 3.0 at the dealership. The MIL came on during the test drive. It took it to a service bay with the salesman to get scanned and printed out a whole sheet of codes, none of which the service writer could decipher by looking at it. I sent it to my friend who is a tech at a different chevy dealer and he's like yep, you want a diesel, that's the kind of thing you're going to have to deal with. And, no he couldn't off hand decipher what it all was either.
That’s just is. Endless sensors and what’s very tricky to diagnose is the calculated values the computers read and if those calculated values are out of range - boom check engine light and your trying to decipher why the calculated value is off. Nightmare
Plenty of new Tech but dam my F250 6.7 HO Platinum is the best truck Ive ever owned, long term, who knows but you Techs have to adapt and learn non stop….hopefully it will translate to a real deserved wage for top young smart Techs like you !
Sadly this applies not just for the trucks but to regular vehicles as well. Here in Europe in the 90's/early 2000s' diesels ruled the roads. Now...not so much, diesel sales have been dropping steadily for the same reasons you mentioned in the video, just too complex and expensive to fix.
Just got back from the UK. About half the cars are diesels. There is a tax on cars based on a scale of pollution 0-50. Fuel costs are also very high. About $9 USD per gallon either gas or diesel. So it’s a trade off. Diesel cars are taxed more but get better gas mileage. Gas cars are taxed less but use more fuel. One thing you don’t see over there is lots of junk cars sitting in people’s front yards. Yes I own 7 vehicles from 2025 model year to 1993 but they all run and are registered & insured. Two are my wife’s and 2 are for my kids. All are AWD or 4WD since I live in the Rocky Mtns.
I’m a VW tech, so yeah I get exactly what you’re saying. The old VW 1.9 ALH TDIs run forever. The newer common rail “clean diesels” are in constantly for check engine lights. The worst is the 3.0 V6 TDI in the Touareg. Gen 1 engines have 2 EGR coolers, four timing chains and I won’t even go in to the CP4 injection pumps they use.
Adjust the amount of fuel into each cylinder and guess what no black smoke! The amount that is eliminated doesn't negate the amount of pollution created to manufacture and install the device on each engine and not only that but then to replace it. COMMON SENSE!!!!
well even with the electronic engines these days the amount of fuel is directly calculated on every engine cycle. these new injectors are spraying up to like 8 times per compression stroke. so there is legit almost no waste.
I am also a commercial truck teck. This is one of the best videos I have ever seen simplifying the issues with modern diesels. I would also take a old 7.3 with a manual any day. I used to tow cars in the 90s and that is what we ran in all our trucks. We had one 7.3 with 425 thousand miles on it before it died. Sure they needed some work but nothing like the modern trucks do.
Still have the power wagon as well (hope so). The old ford 7.3 should be a good project for you. Looking forward to what you have coming down the road.
Emissioms aside though, Pretty simple math reason: 7.3L engine making 270hp and a smaller 6.7L making 470hp- almost double the power. 7.3L is like a kid in a foam pit. Doesn't make enough power to hurt itself.
I bought a well cared for 6.2 F-250 Lariat 4x4. I love the motor, and for daily use. Plus it tows my 10,000lb trailer no problems. I would not want a diesel as an everyday driver.
Agree. My grandfather was in need of a new 1 ton for light farm work and towing a 8500lb camper. He was coming from a 12v Cummins and wanted a new Powerstroke. Got him into a 7.3 gas with the 4.30 rear end. More power and torque than his old truck using go ole 87 and cheap oil changes. He’s very happy with it.
@@slscamg Yup, they are fantastic motors. When I start pulling an excavator for work everyday I’ll get a F-450. But I think my every day driver, and weekend warrior will always be a gas. Cheers!
My friend finally sold her 2010 F-350 King Ranch with only 10K miles on it. It took her almost 2 years to get it sold since even the least educated buyers had at minimum, some knowledge of the 6.4's issues.....while it was a beautiful, fully loaded garage queen she had to settle on $26K for a like-new truck that cost her 3 times that much new.
Another reason old diesel trucks give her multiple fuels in these modern ones can't. The Diesel's actually weigh more proficient engine than anyone thinks. You take away that modern crap. The diesel will shine above the gas.
No new diesels for me, the reasons you stated plus the insane initial cost and maintenance. To me, these engines are over priced for the private consumer, just like the good ole Gov intended.
I have a Ford F250 which I bought new in '89. The odometer stopped working many years ago, but it has something more than 600K miles on it. It has had 1 injection pump, 4 water pumps, 1 alternator, and 1 set of glow plugs replaced, but the valve covers have never even been off the engine itself. The old IDI 7.3 naturally aspirated engines are a bit slow to accelerate, but that is nothing a Banks turbo kit won't fix. There is no way I would ever buy one of these new eco friendly diesel trucks.
Sticking with my 2023 Titan XD to pull my 7,000 lb snowmobile trailer around. Thought about a diesel, but glad I didn't. And this info just verified my concerns. Been a semi truck driver for 20 years and have experienced all these issues. My 2000 Detroit Series 60 was an amazing engine, but when they gave me a 2003 series 60 with EGR had nothing but problems. Good info. Thanks!
GM just bought back my 2024 Silverado 1500 ZR2 with the 3.0 Duramax. That engine gave me nothing but problems. It never stranded me, but all of my issues happened in the after treatment system. Tons of sensor issues. My dash lit up like a Christmas tree on multiple occasions. At one time, it threw 9 codes and the dealer had no idea how to fix it. They replaced multiple sensors and even the ECM. It also had issues towing and major defects with DEF consumption. I loved the power and fuel economy of this engine, but ultimately had to turn it in. Luckily GM made the process smooth
Great video I recently replaced the IP on my 6.5 Detroit turbo. I'm not a mechanic, got it done for $1200. I hear new truck cost a lot more to replace the IP.
Hey Cutie, I’m a Ford truck guy but I have to admit the headlights on the new Super Duty’s have a weird shape as they remind me of those stick on eye lashes that you see on VW Bugs headlights. All kidding aside, your old F350 is beautiful.
I bought a "BulletProofed" 6.0 F250 crew cab 4x4 seven years ago and have had zero problems. The '99.5 7.3 F350 that I drove from new until 2010 was great but had plenty issues that needed to be dealt with. Overall the 6.0 wins for me.
I have a 97 Ram 2500 12 valve with 610K and have not serviced any component on the engine. Have added a Banks performance package, all the power I need.
I love the old 7.3 but they’re getting to be 30yrs old & all of them need major help. The 6.7 is easily fixed with an emissions delete, CP4 upgrade, & that’s it.
I have a 92 idi f350 non turbo and my dad has a 16 with the 6.7, I've had to drag his truck home with mine and he's yet to have to do the same for mine
Stupid question, but why not capture the EGR after the DPF filter 🤔 Wouldn’t that make the EGR cleaner going into the engine, reducing the soot buildup? Anyways, like always, fantastic video! Super proud of you and congrats on hitting 70k subscribers!
Caterpillar actually did that it was called clean gas recirculate but they couldn’t keep up and left the truck industry in like 2010 but it didn’t soot the engine up being after the DPF
Ok, 1,000 miles, but how many idle hours? These modern Diesels want to be working, not sitting around. I have 200,000 on my '16 f250, and all I've ever done is regular maintenance. That being said, if it's on, I'm working it, bed full or towing a trailer.
My truck is a 2000 F-450 4x4 with a dump bed. I do plan on a mild build maybe next year. For now I have put on a very effective catch-can and I use renewable diesel. It runs like a new vehicle since it only has 50K.
I’m a small business owner. I buy gas trucks now. My last diesel was an 07’ 6.0. Deleted the EGR because it was easy back then. Truck had over 500,000 miles when I sold it and ran great. Was a great truck. Now have a 6.2 in a ‘15 F350. Over 200K miles and it’s been flawless. I refuse to have soot going into my engine if I’m going to pay 90K for a truck. The aluminum bodies feel so cheap too.
Diesel exhaust fluid sounds like one of those things you tell people just to mess with them. E.g. don't forget to put winter air in your tires for the coming months.
I agree with you 100%. It took me awile to find a 2000 F350 with the 7.3 out of Arizona, and plan to keep it till I die. The old school engines can be rebuilt, but when the truck bodys and frames rust out, its pretty much over for that truck
Maybe it's over for that truck whenever rust sets in but you can always buy another body or a frame and fix it I'd rather go through all that than deal with the bullshit on the new trucks
2 reasons 1) The HP and torque war gave a trucks with tons of power but we lost a lot on the way there. Like reliability. And durability. And mileage. 2) Emissions. Those two things along with all the electronicals involved make modern trucks brittle
I have a 2002 F550 and a 2002 F450,both 7.3s. Run the 550 at about 17500 lbs and it gets about 7ish mpg. It just rolled 200k miles and I will keep it running whatever it takes. Or if I cant i will revert to the 450 which is kept in tip top shape, registered and insured just as a backup. My friend just bought a new 450 6.7 for towing. It cost him $117k. It is beautiful and gets 14mpg towing. I wish him the best, but having maybe 10 years to retirement, I'll stick with what I have.
Just one more reason I'm keeping my ordered from the factory '01 7.3 with only 177,000 miles. I've been running the Western Diesel Tri-power chip in it since '03, other than when it's smog time here in Commieifornia. It also has an AirRaid K&N air filter and 4" turbo back exhaust. These mods really woke up the truck, but I'm on my 3rd 4R100, lol. Just had the glow plugs and valve cover gaskets and harnesses replaced due to 3 failed glow plugs that threw codes and would not allow a smog pass. My buddy has a 6 Blow and that thing is killing him with constant expensive repairs. At the shop doing the glow plugs, there was a complete diesel engine out of a truck....from a '22 Duramax...😮. The mechanic implored me to never sell my truck as did the smog dude... Not that I needed any convincing.
These new trucks are expensive, potentially troublesome and unlikely to last as long as older ones but good lord the power of that 6.7 HO motor in the new Fords is intoxicating. Add in a high trim level and you have a luxury sedan with amazing cargo capacity and towing. Buy extended warranty, enjoy while you can, sell before it runs out. Or lose a lot of your truck's equipment in a boating accident.
This is why I'm so thankful and glad I have a 40 year old diesel. It's smog exempt in CA so it saves me money and headaches to make sure it's smog approved. It runs no def, again saving money and headaches to fix def issues. It's all mechanical driven. Plus since it is smog exempt I can do a egr delete which I am planning to do. I love old diesels, the new ones are powerful and like them but the stress and money to keep it maintained and optimal is pain in the ass and just not worth it.
Now I personally have no experience with diesel engines, I've always had gas. One engine I wish they still would make is the 300 straight 6. That was bullet proof. (Still love my '22 Coyote though)
So true that 300 straight 6 is bullet proof I had a 1997 5 speed when I sold it it had 385 thousand miles on her went through 2 clutch's and did not burn oil it was low on compression at the boat ramp had to place a brick in the back wheel so my truck did not roll of into the lake lol.🤠
Totally agree with you I have an '03 duramax no emissions at all only replaced one sensor on it since I've owned it 300,000k on it the injectors are just starting to act up that's about the only unfortunate thing about that lb7 but it never fails me
Another aspect of the modern diesels being a bane up where this video was created would be from parts availability? From the looks of the surrounding vegetation, the location looks like the northern reaches of Canada, which puts it on a precarious end of a supply chain when it comes to replacement parts for diesel engine repairs . . . especially so when it is -30 degrees with snow in the region.
Thanks man, the more I watch, the more I want to delete my ram. They are talking about small businesses having inspections around my neck of the woods here in the US, so I don't do it.
Not a truck - but I daily a '84 300TD that just rocks. Everything is mechanicallly controlled (you can disconnect the battery post starting and it will continue to run until out of fuel). Change the oil regularly, adjust valves every 1.5-2years and they bascially run forever.
Seeing that soot buildup with the air intake was nauseating to see! Makes me wonder why the vehicle manufacturers bother with having intake air-cleaners with those engines. I used to own an Isuzu mini-pickup diesel, the P'up, and it was important to keep the air-intake clean.
I own a 2022 F250 with a 6.7 and the performance is amazing. There's no way the older trucks could do what this one does. However, I think a lot of people are buying them because they are "cool". Don't get me wrong, they are, but they are purpose built to tow and haul. If you're not going to be using it for heavy towing, then I wouldn't recommend it. I rarely see my truck go into regen because it's used almost exclusively for towing a 14K lb. trailer on the highway. At that load level, the exhaust temps stay high enough to prevent the DPF from filling up. This doesn't help with the EGR problems, but getting your truck up to a high operating temp and keeping it there for a while will reduce the number of problems.
very much agree, these emissions systems LOVE being at high temps. helps keep them clean and limits downtime forsure. the more a truck idles the more likely we see it in the shop with emission issues.
I ran a dd15 Detroit with the def system learning not to idle and cleaning your filters yearly is a must for problem-free miles of course the other way is to drive non-stop for the 2 million miles
I love my modern 6.7 L, diesel. It’s deleted 99.9% of problems fixed. Electronics are not scary when you take care of something and they’re only doing the job of keeping the engine running properly not the job of keeping the EPA happy.
Off the bat... He does not care at all about emissions or pollution. That's not a factor in his mind. But, he's informative about the regulations that caused design changes.
Our work 5.3 kistngotntowednbecauebjobreverse ! Those were curse words. Because the damn trans don’t work. I am pissed . I’m looking at a 2007 Ram now. Maybe even a Tundra.
You make some great points here, but just to share some perspective regards to 4:25 in the video with the soot build-up on such a low mileage engine, the operator usage was never explained and having seen many videos on this topic, I do recall watching a video where a "hot shot" driver, running the powerstroke on the highway for a living, had a very clean engine and hardly ran his DEF because his engine was regularing working hard and just burned it all in the normal process. So my point is these engines are designed to work hard for a living and it appears this engine is not being worked hard enough on a regular basis. Again, you make some good points, but use selective examples here.
well epa is just doing their job by keeping air pollution low, which helps prevents sickness and diseases. The reason why they are so lenient is because vehicles emit so much air pollution and since we've become so car dependent it has made emission even more strict. You also have to remember driving is a privilege not a right, but since the automobile and oil industry has made us dependent on it we have no other choice but to deal the modern bs problems we have now. Good ol corporations fucking up everyone's lives long-term to increase their profits quota. Maybe if we had less vehicles, more walking, bikes, buses, trains, or increased public transportation emissions wouldn't have been so strict like they are today. That's just my opinion.
@edward1937 fuck that, it's a money grab EGR's and def is a scam because the trucks can run without them. They are just government hooligans trying to put their hands in another pot. If anyone really cared about the environment we wouldn't do the things we do for electric cars lithium and cobalt being top. So more money grabs, the c02 coming out of my tail pipe plants use to make oxygen. We aren't making a dent in the environment, their just pissing me off. How do you control the masses tell them the sky is falling,
It's a democracy. 90% of the population doesn't give a shit about your diesel and it's reliability and would rather have clean air. Stop blaming "the government" for enforcing the will of the people.
Everyone in the USA could stop driving tomorrow and it wouldn’t matter. Have you ever been to China or India? The pollution there is enough to kill the planet. Heck even Mexico. Next time you’re in sunny clear San Diego, climb Point Loma and look south at the black dark haze…..that’s TJ Mexico
6:45 - Yeah, if you know a cheaper, more reliable way of monitoring no2 levels, the world would love to hear about it. I know you can't smell it, but it's going to kill us if we don't do something about it. If you've ever sat in a cold truck stop, next to 20 other running diesels, you'd be glad their emissions equipment works (if it is equipped). Drivers have to sleep high off the ground to avoid poison clouds that form, condense, and settle. Remember, that h2 and 02 is being pushed up, while compounds like no2 fall, in the atmosphere. Also remember that 02 is what we need to breathe, not O3, NO2, or even longer chains of carbon.
You cannot beat the old 7.3 diesel. I’ve often told people you can have a 1999 Ford F250 lariat with all the options versus a 2008 Ford F250 with all the options. You’ll pay more for the 1999 because of the 7.3. Especially, with those junkie 6.0 and 6.4. At least the 6.0 can be billet. But the 6.4 is absolutely garbage. Hence the reason why Ford divorced from Navistar/international. Then of course in 2011 the 6.7 was born and a true Ford engine. Now with that being said, the 6.7 has had it share of problems, especially in the first few years, particularly turbo problems. They also are known to catch fire. Trust me, one of our trucks in my fleet caught fire, literally out of nowhere, driving down the road and burned completely to the ground about three weeks ago. Bottom line is you’re absolutely correct. The old million mile diesel days are long gone. Thanks to all the admissions. The states that do not have to worry about it at the moment I would enjoy because the emissions will be coming to you very soon unfortunately. Just my thoughts Ron
The 7.3 was enough of an engine for me. Even a few mild mod’s warranted plenty of go and maintained longevity that the new diesel’s simply can’t do. Finally a standard transmission was still available.
And the great irony of this entire ordeal is that diesel exhaust, despite the particulates, were much cleaner than gasoline engine exhausts prior to all the emissions regulations. All of that additional equipment is there to reduce or remove the apparent unsightly and ill-perceived harmful particulates. Besides the soot, it is virtually carbon dioxide and water.
I agree with most of your points and the 7.3 power stroke is still a great engine, but to me the weak point is the oil pressure dependent injectors. I have a soft spot for the 6.9 and 7.3 IDI engines, no electronics, mechanical HPOP, yes not as powerful as a turbo version, but if well maintained will run forever.
We have a 1990 7.3, 2001 7.3 and 2012 6.7 at my work. The older truck isn’t worth it. It’s physically exhausting place to be. Mainly the noise level. It’s a solid 20dB louder in operation. The noise of the motor and sound deadening in the cab is bush league compared to the 6.7. If you’re running 100+ miles a day, the new truck is worth the trouble of the newer tech.
The military used that 6.7 with no egr or dpf or def and guess what they are very reliable.
Image that eh lol
Yup, then the top tier government officials go flying around the world in non emission regulated private jets.
On that note I wonder what the Banks duramax set up for the military has for after treatment items, if its also on on a diet of ingesting clean air and no banana in the tail pipe ?
6.7 in my 2020 ram pickup truck has hydraulic valves which have been known to have issues. The solid lifters used in commercial engines are proven reliable. That's what I read anyway. I'm no expert
@@charlesb4267 all their diesel vehicles have the EGR deleted.
Wow, I hit a pot hole and all of that stuff just fell off. Now my 6.7 has the best of all worlds.
Same with my diesel car, I hit a big rock and it all falled off.
Whatdaya know, stuff happens lol
@@Kenneth_R ik lol
😂
Same thing happend to my brother in law.😅🤣😂🤠
My neighbor had a beautiful 2002 F-350 w/ the 7.3 Diesel. Idiot traded for a new 6.7L and now has extreme buyers remorse.
Wait till it breaks . Cost more than a mortgage payment.
Poor guy, what a goof!
Why do new diesel engines suck,, it's a single two word answer,,,, the government...
It's the answer that applies to appliances, vehicles, air conditioning, and MANY other things...
Amen.
Yeah, we don't don't like breathing that shit in.
Your grandpa didn't need a daysul...
Life in general.
It seems all government does is make us poorer and worse off.
I AM SICK OF YOU MORONS. You're obviously too young and/or too stupid to understand how dirty the air and water were before the EPA(government) brought in the standards. And besides that you probably wouldn't care anyway. The companies are the ones that don't give you parts that are more easily serviceable. The government should regulate that also. The government should pass Right to Repair legislation. We can't have idiots and corporations run anything that is for the common good. And now, fools elected a more dangerous fool. Good luck, morons. America R.I.P.
My 7.3 will start on 5 cylinders, but a 6.7 won't start if it's low on def 😂
Yeah mine is blowing by like a SOG but I still pulles my trailer at 80mph. Just uses more fuel....
Three days before 9/11 I bought my truck 2001 Dodge Ram 4 x 4 Cummins 6 speed manual 8-ft bed the truck was delivered to me with 78 Mi on it I still have it today has 460,000 miles on it and it runs as good as the dad bought it
I always wanted a diesel. I thought they sound cool, cold starts are neat. I finally bought one and it was such a HUGE headache. One day, I was driving home from work (frequent short trips) and it said, "Regen Started - Maintain Speed or Vehicle Will Go Into Limp Mode." I had to drive on the highway for like 20 minutes for that dumb regen. Doubly frustrating after finishing work and wanting to just go home. I sold it soon after. I don't think I'd ever buy a modern diesel again. I can see why all the pre-DEF diesels are selling for such a premium now.
ya the best way to describe it just a headache, they aren't simple like they used to be.
Good to know. I want a diesel truck as well but I guess I’ll get one that is a 2001 or older
Oh but don’t worry that regen saved the environment. ( by burning 20 minutes more fuel) ban the epa!
The heart of the issue is that you can make a reliable and a relatively simple diesel engine, or you can make a diesel engine which is largely safe for the humans around it and the environment (and I'm not only talking about CO2 but also the other more directly damaging pollutants like NOx), but you can't make both at the same time. The infamous VAG "Dieselgate" emissions test defeat firmware scandal illustrates it well, since it was borne out of VAG/VW upper management refusing to believe this and mandating that the engineers had to create one which led to them faking one when it was physically impossible to do.
And in principle I think that the grandfathering of pre-DPF and pre-DEF diesels should be ended outside of museum/hobby vehicles in order to permanently get them off the road, since keeping them on the road specifically to spite new diesel emissions regulations is pretty much about owners willfully poisoning everything around them in order to have cheap upkeep. For example illegalizing any rebuilding of diesel engines in commercial and personal use if they don't fully comply with the latest emissions standards.
@@meckelbu and I hope no one ever puts any one else into office that thinks like you. No one is being poisoned by older diesel engines. The environment is not destroyed by them or any better off with the new diesel engines. The entire world laughs at the regulations we have and thanks us for making their economies thrive on the backs of ordinary American workers who have to jump through ridiculous hoops to keeps their businesses functional. If any of our government believed what you say they wouldn’t have all government diesels exempt from it.
Minor correction. The 6.7 powerstroke does not push raw fuel into the dpf for regen purposes. The 6.4 did, the 6.4 would fire the injector on the exhaust stroke to fuel load the back two cylinders (7 and 8) the 6.7 will enrich fueling. But not to the extent off "raw fuel" as the previous engine.
Doesn't matter what you drive. Take care of it. As a ford mechanic, I've seen all makes and models of the big three reach 300,000 plus and still go.
The common denominator was care. Maintenance and inspection.
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sensors and valves don't break for lack of care. A nox sensors doesn't brake for lack of maintenance.... shill
I have a 2009 Ford LCF with the rare V6 Powerstroke. My HPOP was leaking so I had to take the intake off to reseal it. The intake was so full of gunk from the EGR. I emptied 4 cans of brake clean until black stopped coming out of it. When I put the truck back together, I kid you not, it felt like it had 50% more power.
I love my 24 F350 6.7HO... I got a 10 year 0 deductible ESP warranty and it's just an amazing beast. Yes, not the most financially cheap move, but it's extremley fun to drive and will pull a house and is beautiful
Thank you for reaffirming my decision to get the 7.3L Godzilla gasser in my new 24 F250.
A hell of a lot cheaper to buy, and it sure pulls my 12000lb trailer no problem.
Amen to that!! I'm thinking the exact same thing wth my 23 f350 7.3 gasser & If I look in the engine compartment, I can actually see the ground!!
Aside from a hole rusted in the oil pan, an ipr sensor, and a crank position sensor, and difficult cold starting. My Dad's lightly tuned 2001 7.3 has been nothing but a bullet proof workhorse. Never left him stranded, even when towing a 30ft camper around North America. He has 450 000km on it now.
I have a deleted lbz too. That has over 300k on it. Aside from a few ball joints, glowplugs, breakbooster, body rust, front wheel bearing, and tierods. It still runs like new, has enough power stock to be fun to drive unloaded, and tow anything I need. I think the LBZ is the perfect compromise between performance and reliabilty. Guys have gotten over 800k on the trucks stock.
At stock power the lbz is super reliable, but there is always the easy option to bring them up to 400 wheel horsepower, with just a transgo jr transmission shift kit and a good tune to keep them reliable. Then you have a rig that has close to the same power as the modern diesels but is much more reliable.
Long live the pre dpf diesels!
What's the MPG like when they get tuned like that? Sounds cool
@Original_Edition
You can get 23 mpg out of a crew cab on the highway with a good tune and stock tires. If you put your foot into it though, your mpgs fall pretty fast. Lol.
I'll never buy another modern deisel. My gas work trucks can tow almost 20k and I can consistently run them for 300k miles with minimal issues
kilometers.... I'm done
@addamjenkins75 300k. As in 300 thousand miles.
@@chadmiller6487was supposed to be a standalone comment not a reply. He says kilometers in the video.
Oh and nice new 7.3 Alex thing looks clean and I’m glad it’s a manual to
A year ago I bought my dream diesel truck since I was a little kid. A 05 f350 extended cab long bed 4wd. And minus the battery cable being corroded it has been reliable. I have modded it too with the coolant filter, blue spring, full exhaust, better alternator, improved ficm, etc. Another point with older diesels is that the problems they will most likely have will be easier to troubleshoot vs a new truck. Whereas with mine you understand the oil cooler can be problematic and you can address it before it becomes a problem. New trucks to me look terrible, and minus the power train and interior/infotainment are basically the same truck from 20 years ago as I can bolt on a brand new f350 suspension to my truck.
I'd love to have a newer (emissions deleted) 6.7 PS or 6.7 cummins, but I can't afford $80k-$100k for a truck, and can't afford a check engine light coming on. But I CAN afford to keep my old 12 valve running forever, and even supplement fuel by dumping any old waste oils in the tank. I can really make 1 tank of diesel fuel last a long time.
We love our 7.3. 468,000 km and counting.
303k on mine. Life is good
@@daveconklin1319 Only just broken in 😎
550k miles on my 12 valve. Biggest thing I've done to it was a new 3 piece exhaust manifold after the factory one-piece manifold cracked. Could probably use new injectors, get a puff of white smoke every now and then when pulling a hill but they're still working.
I looked for a long time and found a 2007 Dodge 2500 4x4 with 5.9 Cummins. It is a southern truck with low miles. The truck had never even had a brake controller installed.
I will keep it as long as possible. I have owned two 7.3 Powerstokes, 3 Cummins 5.9's, and one Cummins 6.7. I don't want any of the newer diesels. I will stick with the 5.9 or 7.3.
As nice as the new diesels are, every time I watch a video on regens and EGR’s it makes me like my 7.3 all the better.
You Right! Ambiental regulations are a nightmare
Another factor is the 7.3 is actually a rebadged E444T , 444 cubic inches, a trusty SAE engine. The SAE threads hold up better, are easier to work with ... and were designed by machinists instead of college graduates..
One is an I phone designed to be replaced when the new model comes out. The other is a hammer, built to work and take a hit over and over again. Really the answer is to keep the old diesels on the road running strong, then the manufacturers will get the idea that not everyone wants to ruin the environment by buying a new phone and truck every 2 years.
I test drove a new chevy with the 3.0 at the dealership. The MIL came on during the test drive. It took it to a service bay with the salesman to get scanned and printed out a whole sheet of codes, none of which the service writer could decipher by looking at it. I sent it to my friend who is a tech at a different chevy dealer and he's like yep, you want a diesel, that's the kind of thing you're going to have to deal with. And, no he couldn't off hand decipher what it all was either.
That’s just is. Endless sensors and what’s very tricky to diagnose is the calculated values the computers read and if those calculated values are out of range - boom check engine light and your trying to decipher why the calculated value is off. Nightmare
I've got my dad's old 1997 12 valve. So simple and reliable. I'll never sell it
Plenty of new Tech but dam my F250 6.7 HO Platinum is the best truck Ive ever owned, long term, who knows but you Techs have to adapt and learn non stop….hopefully it will translate to a real deserved wage for top young smart Techs like you !
Sadly this applies not just for the trucks but to regular vehicles as well. Here in Europe in the 90's/early 2000s' diesels ruled the roads. Now...not so much, diesel sales have been dropping steadily for the same reasons you mentioned in the video, just too complex and expensive to fix.
Just got back from the UK. About half the cars are diesels. There is a tax on cars based on a scale of pollution 0-50. Fuel costs are also very high. About $9 USD per gallon either gas or diesel. So it’s a trade off. Diesel cars are taxed more but get better gas mileage. Gas cars are taxed less but use more fuel. One thing you don’t see over there is lots of junk cars sitting in people’s front yards. Yes I own 7 vehicles from 2025 model year to 1993 but they all run and are registered & insured. Two are my wife’s and 2 are for my kids. All are AWD or 4WD since I live in the Rocky Mtns.
Once I studded, chipped, bypassed, tuned my 6.0L it ran better than when it was new. I will never get rid of it for a new truck.
the EGR helped to kill those 6L engines
I’m a VW tech, so yeah I get exactly what you’re saying. The old VW 1.9 ALH TDIs run forever. The newer common rail “clean diesels” are in constantly for check engine lights. The worst is the 3.0 V6 TDI in the Touareg. Gen 1 engines have 2 EGR coolers, four timing chains and I won’t even go in to the CP4 injection pumps they use.
Adjust the amount of fuel into each cylinder and guess what no black smoke! The amount that is eliminated doesn't negate the amount of pollution created to manufacture and install the device on each engine and not only that but then to replace it. COMMON SENSE!!!!
well even with the electronic engines these days the amount of fuel is directly calculated on every engine cycle. these new injectors are spraying up to like 8 times per compression stroke. so there is legit almost no waste.
I am also a commercial truck teck. This is one of the best videos I have ever seen simplifying the issues with modern diesels. I would also take a old 7.3 with a manual any day. I used to tow cars in the 90s and that is what we ran in all our trucks. We had one 7.3 with 425 thousand miles on it before it died. Sure they needed some work but nothing like the modern trucks do.
Our dumbed-down "education systems" have eliminated manual transmissions now so that we can't even get a manual anymore.
Still have the power wagon as well (hope so). The old ford 7.3 should be a good project for you. Looking forward to what you have coming down the road.
Emissioms aside though, Pretty simple math reason: 7.3L engine making 270hp and a smaller 6.7L making 470hp- almost double the power. 7.3L is like a kid in a foam pit. Doesn't make enough power to hurt itself.
You can easily pull a lot more power out of the 7.3 with a few modifications.
I bought a well cared for 6.2 F-250 Lariat 4x4.
I love the motor, and for daily use.
Plus it tows my 10,000lb trailer no problems.
I would not want a diesel as an everyday driver.
Change the oil often and hang onto that beast !
Agree. My grandfather was in need of a new 1 ton for light farm work and towing a 8500lb camper. He was coming from a 12v Cummins and wanted a new Powerstroke. Got him into a 7.3 gas with the 4.30 rear end. More power and torque than his old truck using go ole 87 and cheap oil changes. He’s very happy with it.
@@charlesb4267 Indeed!
I’ve changed all of the fluids, and run Mobil 1 Gold every 5k.
Cheers!
@@slscamg Yup, they are fantastic motors.
When I start pulling an excavator for work everyday I’ll get a F-450.
But I think my every day driver, and weekend warrior will always be a gas.
Cheers!
My friend finally sold her 2010 F-350 King Ranch with only 10K miles on it. It took her almost 2 years to get it sold since even the least educated buyers had at minimum, some knowledge of the 6.4's issues.....while it was a beautiful, fully loaded garage queen she had to settle on $26K for a like-new truck that cost her 3 times that much new.
Another reason old diesel trucks give her multiple fuels in these modern ones can't. The Diesel's actually weigh more proficient engine than anyone thinks. You take away that modern crap. The diesel will shine above the gas.
All true 👍
But from personal experience, the 6.6 Duramax has been reliable for me.
I drive a 2023 6.7 company truck for work. Beautiful to drive, tons of power and nice and quiet but I'm sure a maintenance nightmare down the road.
No new diesels for me, the reasons you stated plus the insane initial cost and maintenance. To me, these engines are over priced for the private consumer, just like the good ole Gov intended.
I have a Ford F250 which I bought new in '89. The odometer stopped working many years ago, but it has something more than 600K miles on it. It has had 1 injection pump, 4 water pumps, 1 alternator, and 1 set of glow plugs replaced, but the valve covers have never even been off the engine itself. The old IDI 7.3 naturally aspirated engines are a bit slow to accelerate, but that is nothing a Banks turbo kit won't fix. There is no way I would ever buy one of these new eco friendly diesel trucks.
they are slow, but they'll get you home everytime!
Sticking with my 2023 Titan XD to pull my 7,000 lb snowmobile trailer around. Thought about a diesel, but glad I didn't. And this info just verified my concerns. Been a semi truck driver for 20 years and have experienced all these issues. My 2000 Detroit Series 60 was an amazing engine, but when they gave me a 2003 series 60 with EGR had nothing but problems. Good info. Thanks!
GM just bought back my 2024 Silverado 1500 ZR2 with the 3.0 Duramax. That engine gave me nothing but problems. It never stranded me, but all of my issues happened in the after treatment system. Tons of sensor issues. My dash lit up like a Christmas tree on multiple occasions. At one time, it threw 9 codes and the dealer had no idea how to fix it. They replaced multiple sensors and even the ECM. It also had issues towing and major defects with DEF consumption. I loved the power and fuel economy of this engine, but ultimately had to turn it in. Luckily GM made the process smooth
I will stick to my 01 f 250 with the good old 7.3
Great video
I recently replaced the IP on my 6.5 Detroit turbo. I'm not a mechanic, got it done for $1200.
I hear new truck cost a lot more to replace the IP.
Hey Cutie, I’m a Ford truck guy but I have to admit the headlights on the new Super Duty’s have a weird shape as they remind me of those stick on eye lashes that you see on VW Bugs headlights. All kidding aside, your old F350 is beautiful.
Older diesels has it's place but I'd take the new diesel due to the type of work I do (OTR towing)...
My 99 f250, 7.3, manual Trans I would not trade for the world! 272,500 miles and truck is in great shape!
I bought a "BulletProofed" 6.0 F250 crew cab 4x4 seven years ago and have had zero problems. The '99.5 7.3 F350 that I drove from new until 2010 was great but had plenty issues that needed to be dealt with. Overall the 6.0 wins for me.
I have a 97 Ram 2500 12 valve with 610K and have not serviced any component on the engine. Have added a Banks performance package, all the power I need.
I love the old 7.3 but they’re getting to be 30yrs old & all of them need major help.
The 6.7 is easily fixed with an emissions delete, CP4 upgrade, & that’s it.
I have a 92 idi f350 non turbo and my dad has a 16 with the 6.7, I've had to drag his truck home with mine and he's yet to have to do the same for mine
I.have a 1993 7.3 non turbo idi extended cab 8' bed project f250 4x4 speed with 150K on it .I really want to fix this truck.
150hp vs 750hp
That is the answer you came for
215 vs 500
@@fordman2288 75 vs 2500
Stupid question, but why not capture the EGR after the DPF filter 🤔 Wouldn’t that make the EGR cleaner going into the engine, reducing the soot buildup? Anyways, like always, fantastic video! Super proud of you and congrats on hitting 70k subscribers!
Caterpillar actually did that it was called clean gas recirculate but they couldn’t keep up and left the truck industry in like 2010 but it didn’t soot the engine up being after the DPF
LM2 andLZ0 use clean EGR.
The only modern diesel I may consider buying if my deleted lbz ever dies.@BocoGreenpeace
The best part of the 7.3 is you can’t run it out of oil because of the HEUI fuel injector
They will run with 7 qts in them. They also will destroy there bearings.
Canadians “we can build a better truck that will be the number one truck sold globally” said no one 😂
Exactly why I'm keeping my 02 Duramax, and I'll build it when I need to.
Ok, 1,000 miles, but how many idle hours? These modern Diesels want to be working, not sitting around. I have 200,000 on my '16 f250, and all I've ever done is regular maintenance. That being said, if it's on, I'm working it, bed full or towing a trailer.
My truck is a 2000 F-450 4x4 with a dump bed. I do plan on a mild build maybe next year. For now I have put on a very effective catch-can and I use renewable diesel. It runs like a new vehicle since it only has 50K.
I’m a small business owner. I buy gas trucks now. My last diesel was an 07’ 6.0. Deleted the EGR because it was easy back then. Truck had over 500,000 miles when I sold it and ran great. Was a great truck. Now have a 6.2 in a ‘15 F350. Over 200K miles and it’s been flawless. I refuse to have soot going into my engine if I’m going to pay 90K for a truck. The aluminum bodies feel so cheap too.
Diesel exhaust fluid sounds like one of those things you tell people just to mess with them. E.g. don't forget to put winter air in your tires for the coming months.
I agree with you 100%. It took me awile to find a 2000 F350 with the 7.3 out of Arizona, and plan to keep it till I die. The old school engines can be rebuilt, but when the truck bodys and frames rust out, its pretty much over for that truck
Maybe it's over for that truck whenever rust sets in but you can always buy another body or a frame and fix it I'd rather go through all that than deal with the bullshit on the new trucks
2 reasons
1) The HP and torque war gave a trucks with tons of power but we lost a lot on the way there. Like reliability. And durability. And mileage.
2) Emissions.
Those two things along with all the electronicals involved make modern trucks brittle
I have a 2002 F550 and a 2002 F450,both 7.3s. Run the 550 at about 17500 lbs and it gets about 7ish mpg. It just rolled 200k miles and I will keep it running whatever it takes. Or if I cant i will revert to the 450 which is kept in tip top shape, registered and insured just as a backup. My friend just bought a new 450 6.7 for towing. It cost him $117k. It is beautiful and gets 14mpg towing. I wish him the best, but having maybe 10 years to retirement, I'll stick with what I have.
Just one more reason I'm keeping my ordered from the factory '01 7.3 with only 177,000 miles. I've been running the Western Diesel Tri-power chip in it since '03, other than when it's smog time here in Commieifornia. It also has an AirRaid K&N air filter and 4" turbo back exhaust. These mods really woke up the truck, but I'm on my 3rd 4R100, lol. Just had the glow plugs and valve cover gaskets and harnesses replaced due to 3 failed glow plugs that threw codes and would not allow a smog pass. My buddy has a 6 Blow and that thing is killing him with constant expensive repairs. At the shop doing the glow plugs, there was a complete diesel engine out of a truck....from a '22 Duramax...😮. The mechanic implored me to never sell my truck as did the smog dude... Not that I needed any convincing.
That’s why I’m currently rebuilding a second gen Cummins 24 valve to be a tow rig
These new trucks are expensive, potentially troublesome and unlikely to last as long as older ones but good lord the power of that 6.7 HO motor in the new Fords is intoxicating. Add in a high trim level and you have a luxury sedan with amazing cargo capacity and towing. Buy extended warranty, enjoy while you can, sell before it runs out. Or lose a lot of your truck's equipment in a boating accident.
I know, those 6.7L powerstrokes are insane to drive. like legit fast. If you got the money the performance is incredible.
This is why I'm so thankful and glad I have a 40 year old diesel. It's smog exempt in CA so it saves me money and headaches to make sure it's smog approved. It runs no def, again saving money and headaches to fix def issues. It's all mechanical driven. Plus since it is smog exempt I can do a egr delete which I am planning to do. I love old diesels, the new ones are powerful and like them but the stress and money to keep it maintained and optimal is pain in the ass and just not worth it.
An EGR delete on a 40 year old diesel? Does it have a newer engine in it with EGR?
Great delivery and video style!
Now I personally have no experience with diesel engines, I've always had gas. One engine I wish they still would make is the 300 straight 6. That was bullet proof. (Still love my '22 Coyote though)
So true that 300 straight 6 is bullet proof I had a 1997 5 speed when I sold it it had 385 thousand miles on her went through 2 clutch's and did not burn oil it was low on compression at the boat ramp had to place a brick in the back wheel so my truck did not roll of into the lake lol.🤠
Totally agree with you I have an '03 duramax no emissions at all only replaced one sensor on it since I've owned it 300,000k on it the injectors are just starting to act up that's about the only unfortunate thing about that lb7 but it never fails me
I got a 12valve with 500 hp 1100 ft lb daily driver plenty of power and definitely reliable
Another aspect of the modern diesels being a bane up where this video was created would be from parts availability?
From the looks of the surrounding vegetation, the location looks like the northern reaches of Canada, which puts it on a precarious end of a supply chain when it comes to replacement parts for diesel engine repairs . . . especially so when it is -30 degrees with snow in the region.
Thanks man, the more I watch, the more I want to delete my ram. They are talking about small businesses having inspections around my neck of the woods here in the US, so I don't do it.
Great info 👍👍
Thank you sir.
Not a truck - but I daily a '84 300TD that just rocks. Everything is mechanicallly controlled (you can disconnect the battery post starting and it will continue to run until out of fuel). Change the oil regularly, adjust valves every 1.5-2years and they bascially run forever.
As always another excellent video..
Cool 7.3 project too!!!
They are forcing through these changes without giving anyone time to properly test them gas diesel or electric
My 1995 7.3L is great, I barely maintain it and it still drives!
Seeing that soot buildup with the air intake was nauseating to see!
Makes me wonder why the vehicle manufacturers bother with having intake air-cleaners with those engines.
I used to own an Isuzu mini-pickup diesel, the P'up, and it was important to keep the air-intake clean.
I own a 2022 F250 with a 6.7 and the performance is amazing. There's no way the older trucks could do what this one does. However, I think a lot of people are buying them because they are "cool". Don't get me wrong, they are, but they are purpose built to tow and haul. If you're not going to be using it for heavy towing, then I wouldn't recommend it. I rarely see my truck go into regen because it's used almost exclusively for towing a 14K lb. trailer on the highway. At that load level, the exhaust temps stay high enough to prevent the DPF from filling up. This doesn't help with the EGR problems, but getting your truck up to a high operating temp and keeping it there for a while will reduce the number of problems.
very much agree, these emissions systems LOVE being at high temps. helps keep them clean and limits downtime forsure. the more a truck idles the more likely we see it in the shop with emission issues.
Just gotta grow some balls and delete the bs off the 2017+ 6.7 power stroke and it’s a gem…
Exactly and fun as hell to drive
I ran a dd15 Detroit with the def system learning not to idle and cleaning your filters yearly is a must for problem-free miles of course the other way is to drive non-stop for the 2 million miles
I love my modern 6.7 L, diesel. It’s deleted 99.9% of problems fixed. Electronics are not scary when you take care of something and they’re only doing the job of keeping the engine running properly not the job of keeping the EPA happy.
Off the bat... He does not care at all about emissions or pollution. That's not a factor in his mind. But, he's informative about the regulations that caused design changes.
my 3.0 duramax had 2 NOX sensor replaced on a truck with only 2600km's. What a pain with a new 80K truck.
Our work 5.3 kistngotntowednbecauebjobreverse !
Those were curse words.
Because the damn trans don’t work.
I am pissed .
I’m looking at a 2007 Ram now.
Maybe even a Tundra.
Very good video Alex…as always
You make some great points here, but just to share some perspective regards to 4:25 in the video with the soot build-up on such a low mileage engine, the operator usage was never explained and having seen many videos on this topic, I do recall watching a video where a "hot shot" driver, running the powerstroke on the highway for a living, had a very clean engine and hardly ran his DEF because his engine was regularing working hard and just burned it all in the normal process. So my point is these engines are designed to work hard for a living and it appears this engine is not being worked hard enough on a regular basis. Again, you make some good points, but use selective examples here.
Modern diesels sucks because of three words.....Environmental Protection Agency.
well epa is just doing their job by keeping air pollution low, which helps prevents sickness and diseases. The reason why they are so lenient is because vehicles emit so much air pollution and since we've become so car dependent it has made emission even more strict. You also have to remember driving is a privilege not a right, but since the automobile and oil industry has made us dependent on it we have no other choice but to deal the modern bs problems we have now. Good ol corporations fucking up everyone's lives long-term to increase their profits quota. Maybe if we had less vehicles, more walking, bikes, buses, trains, or increased public transportation emissions wouldn't have been so strict like they are today. That's just my opinion.
@edward1937 fuck that, it's a money grab EGR's and def is a scam because the trucks can run without them. They are just government hooligans trying to put their hands in another pot. If anyone really cared about the environment we wouldn't do the things we do for electric cars lithium and cobalt being top. So more money grabs, the c02 coming out of my tail pipe plants use to make oxygen. We aren't making a dent in the environment, their just pissing me off. How do you control the masses tell them the sky is falling,
It's a democracy. 90% of the population doesn't give a shit about your diesel and it's reliability and would rather have clean air. Stop blaming "the government" for enforcing the will of the people.
Everyone in the USA could stop driving tomorrow and it wouldn’t matter. Have you ever been to China or India? The pollution there is enough to kill the planet. Heck even Mexico. Next time you’re in sunny clear San Diego, climb Point Loma and look south at the black dark haze…..that’s TJ Mexico
C.A.R.B wasnt no girl scout in this matter either. They were the ones for bring this call to the forefront. Thanks you commie state.
6:45 - Yeah, if you know a cheaper, more reliable way of monitoring no2 levels, the world would love to hear about it. I know you can't smell it, but it's going to kill us if we don't do something about it. If you've ever sat in a cold truck stop, next to 20 other running diesels, you'd be glad their emissions equipment works (if it is equipped). Drivers have to sleep high off the ground to avoid poison clouds that form, condense, and settle. Remember, that h2 and 02 is being pushed up, while compounds like no2 fall, in the atmosphere. Also remember that 02 is what we need to breathe, not O3, NO2, or even longer chains of carbon.
You cannot beat the old 7.3 diesel. I’ve often told people you can have a 1999 Ford F250 lariat with all the options versus a 2008 Ford F250 with all the options. You’ll pay more for the 1999 because of the 7.3. Especially, with those junkie 6.0 and 6.4. At least the 6.0 can be billet. But the 6.4 is absolutely garbage. Hence the reason why Ford divorced from Navistar/international. Then of course in 2011 the 6.7 was born and a true Ford engine.
Now with that being said, the 6.7 has had it share of problems, especially in the first few years, particularly turbo problems. They also are known to catch fire. Trust me, one of our trucks in my fleet caught fire, literally out of nowhere, driving down the road and burned completely to the ground about three weeks ago.
Bottom line is you’re absolutely correct. The old million mile diesel days are long gone. Thanks to all the admissions. The states that do not have to worry about it at the moment I would enjoy because the emissions will be coming to you very soon unfortunately. Just my thoughts Ron
Depends do you have a tune on that truck and how many idle hours did that 1500 miles include
The 7.3 was enough of an engine for me. Even a few mild mod’s warranted plenty of go and maintained longevity that the new diesel’s simply can’t do. Finally a standard transmission was still available.
Love that 95 powerstroke
And the great irony of this entire ordeal is that diesel exhaust, despite the particulates, were much cleaner than gasoline engine exhausts prior to all the emissions regulations. All of that additional equipment is there to reduce or remove the apparent unsightly and ill-perceived harmful particulates. Besides the soot, it is virtually carbon dioxide and water.
I agree with most of your points and the 7.3 power stroke is still a great engine, but to me the weak point is the oil pressure dependent injectors. I have a soft spot for the 6.9 and 7.3 IDI engines, no electronics, mechanical HPOP, yes not as powerful as a turbo version, but if well maintained will run forever.
I had a 89 7.3 IDI. Agreed super reliable. The only big problem some of them developed was the cylinder cavitation and most didn't.
Great video, thanks!
I love diesels but I hate diesels that are engineered to fail. Thanks Uncle S(c)am!!
We have a 1990 7.3, 2001 7.3 and 2012 6.7 at my work. The older truck isn’t worth it. It’s physically exhausting place to be. Mainly the noise level. It’s a solid 20dB louder in operation. The noise of the motor and sound deadening in the cab is bush league compared to the 6.7. If you’re running 100+ miles a day, the new truck is worth the trouble of the newer tech.
It's worth the trouble to you because you don't have to fix them.
Maybe for you
Buddy, we need to get you a new quiet EV truck.
Incredible film sir Alex
So. What I got was
Old diesel: ak47
New diesel: precision tuned race AR-15
So true. Cleaning EGR is a pain.
You haven’t said whether those catch cans are any good. Would they help with some of those problems?