Some tips with grapes. 1. You can attach the mulcher to the front, and the cultivator to the back. Kills 2 birds with one stone, and cuts the time in half. 2. There are other small tractors with higher horsepower that can still fit down the rows to make my first suggestions easier. The Landini struggles with HP to do both. It can do it, but it's a bit slow. 3. There are multiple other fertilizer options that are better than what the game wants you to do. The green and orange solid spreader that has a 40ish spread width can fit down the rows, and knock out about 5-6 rows on each side at a time. You can also opt to leave a bit of space between every 14 rows. The HARDI Rubicon 9000 self-propelled sprayer's arms can cover 7 rows on each side, and you can adjust the arm to be high enough to go over the top of the vine poles.
there's also a manure spreader that'll fit between rows if you have poopy animals (pigs and cows), but currently no slurry spreader that'll fit. They do use (admittedly tiny) slurry spreaders IRL, so likely only a matter of time before a mod comes along. As far as I can tell you never need herbicide and Giants still don't know that pests and pesticide is a thing (likely because they don't want kids crying that their crops got eaten by bugs)
@@ryandonohoe7308 In winegrowing, we use what is known as grafted vines. A hardy grape variety that can cope well with the sometimes cold weather in Germany, for example, provides the roots and the trunk. This is cut just above the ground and an Italian, very productive and fruity grape variety (or other) may be planted in it. This means that this type of wine can also be grown in more difficult areas, or that certain varieties can be grown at all. Why am I telling you this? Wine growing is anything but completely "natural" and is more of an art of stealing something beautiful from nature. It is also a business and is geared towards profit. If you leave the leaves on in winter, the plant has to take care of them. But this "Frankenstein monster" (hehe) will never manage to do that and will definitely not survive the winter[1]. The leaves also represent a large surface area. This is simply an attack surface for fungi and other pests. You know the simple solution to avoid the problem:) Next year, the shoots would have produced new leaves anyway. The vines also have to be cut short, otherwise the plant cannot take care of itself. This is also done to put quality over quantity. Depending on how you prune the vine, you will end up with less mass of grapes, but they will be of higher quality when it comes to the natural sugar content and the aroma-determining components. Nobody needs bad wine, let alone thousands of liters of it (and above all: nobody BUYS it! Hehehe). This was the reason for a massive decline in wineries all over the world in the 1980s and 90s. You had to learn and adapt. Or just sell and close the shop! Excuse my little extensive and not requested side-note about the background of such a simple thing like "leaves" ... Cheers, my friends!:) [1] Edit, I think that needs an explanation: Creating a vineyard costs a lot of money and, above all, time and care. The vines have a lifespan of a decade and some even many, with their own history and story ... and even protected brand names of wine varieties that produce unaffordably expensive wine, you maybe heard of those "nerds":))) Nevertheless, it is part of everyday life that individual plants die (there are always animals, pests and... they are living beings just like you and me, they can just die...) and have to be replaced. In modern operations, this is often externalized and a task for trained specialists and high tech breeding companies. You really don't want to have half or even the entire vineyard die! Just because you left the leaves on:)
thank you for making short and simple tutorials, every time i want to get into something new on farming sim i always look for a video made by you as it just quickly gets the information across without any bla bla
@firstgradeteacher9915 at least in my families place. Harvesting is mostly done by hand. And spraying is mostly done by plane. But yeah pretty similar.
@@firstgradeteacher9915 the game gets a lot of things right. Of course, it's a game, so many things are skipped to keep it fun and engaging. There is practically no manual labor in it. Most of everything in here is done with a machine or vehicle. Where I come from, grapes are almost 40 percent manual labor. But in here, that's all skipped because going to tie them or prune them by hand would take *forever*
I am a real life grape farmer (vineyard manager). I take care of 16 acres of vineyards and grow 5 different varieties of grapes for a family owned and operated winery that has been in business for 135 years. It looks like they have simplified the process greatly. I can tell you how it works in real life. Assuming the vineyard is already established (mature vines with posts and wire). After harvest, during the winter, the vines are all pruned by hand. Each and every vine, custom pruned to promote healthy growth for the next 2 seasons to come. After pruning (still during winter or very early spring) we pound down the posts which get pushed up by the frosty ground. Then we tighten all the wires. There are 3 or 4 wires per row. They will stretch loose and break under the load of the heavy grapes. Once all that is repaired… Then we have to go out and “tie down” the pruned vines. Using twist ties to secure the newly pruned vines to the wires. Then in the spring, before things start growing, we spray a pre emergent herbicide under the vines with a modified sprayer tractor. This will prevent many weeds from rooting and make life much easier with regards to weeds. As the grapes start to grow they get a round of fertilizer. Solid pellet fertilizer from a broadcast spreader attachment on a tractor. I then go back through the rows and remove any “suckers”. Those are baby vines that grow from the base of the mature vine trunks. If these are not cut away they will sap a lot of growth energy from the mature vine. Like the pruning this is done by hand and it’s a LOT of backbreaking bending over to accomplish. Then the season really starts and the vines start growing. Throughout the season (at a rate of every week basically) you have to; Mow the grass between the rows. Spray various fungicides to keep molds and mildews from destroying your crop. Spray various insecticides to keep bugs from destroying your crops. Spray various herbicides under the rows to kill off the weeds that pop up and compete with the vines. Along the way you will also have to repair posts and wire and reattach vines that become untied due to storm damage. Possibly fertilize again if needed. I also trim away some of the leaves in mid/late summer. This is to provide good air flow and sunlight penetration. Finally when the grapes are ripe they are picked by hand. Every bunch of grapes carefully cut from the vine and collected. Farming grapes is a laborious and tedious process to say the least. If all I did was what this video game presents there would never be any grapes to harvest by the end of the season. They would likely all wither and die from mildew and be eaten by bugs long before the grapes ever came close to being ready to harvest. All that said I am still looking forward to trying my hand at digital viticulture. I guarantee I’ll never even break a sweat.
@@jeremydurdil556 And you're right. Since I last posted, I have already bought the game, and it has been extremely dumbed down. Which makes sense, I mean, you're there to have fun, not to work a second job. Nevertheless, I still enjoyed reading your reply. Your way of farming is almost exactly identical to ours.
Just an FYI if you buy a field and plant your grapes in the field rather than just land, you can then hire a worker to do everything you need them to do. Also, if you want to save time, put the cultivator on the back and the mulched on the front and do them at the same time.
The power of the combination machines is too low for high row per time . But with the new update now u can use litterly all small tractors 🚜 at the rows so now finally I can combine at full throttle. Also u can take 2 of the things that clear the leaves 🍃 to clean 2 rows at the time ⏲️
yes, pruning is normally done in late winter (Dec to Feb), when the vines are dormant and the leaves have fallen off. You definitely wouldn't do it when they are green and growing like the game has it.
Man oh man I love the idea of grapes. This is my first game owned for my new Xbox series x. I spent 6 hours playing today after watching your tutorials. Grape equipment was tough at first... but I'm getting the hang of not getting caught on the poles. I found it easy to harvest by zooming in Full, then angle the cam center. You can watch your harvesters entry point like that. If only I could hide the helper menu & speed up time without going to the settings menu.
@@ThatGuy-ve9tf yep! They're interesting for a change.... but I've switched to sugarbeats and have been enjoying it. I wish there were more options like Watermelon, pumpkin, etc. That could be fun.
i was super excited for grapes but when i did try them yesterday for first time i found itto be a nightmare it is probally my fault but i find i have to mulch an culltivate so many times back an forth an when i check the map its dots of completed stages makes me think im not doing anything but then i also had collision issues on everything i lined rows straight they now snap so not alot i can do there but tractor gets stuck at least 5 times per row also tool only does half the row so i have to turn around an go back down same row twice for it to look done but on map it still looks terrible but thats ok then i try an use harvester was so looking forward to this it gets stuck an wedged so many times ive even tried setting cruise to 2 mph an setting camera angle every way possible ijust cant get it done without issues but still enjoy the grapes being added to game i know alot of my issues are my fault an i need to learn how to use tools better but collision is truely a nightmare lol. i did plant them on open land flat just meadow grass but it wants me to roll field and plow theres no roller in game small enough so that i have to ignore but theres a plow i just dont notice any differance in doing them map still says needs plowing an rolling ground looks the same the only thing that seemed to work 100% an be rewarding an fun was dumping gra[es from harvester to trailer lol that worked great no issues obviously it would but every other part of it feels awful atm took forever to do 1 harvest around 4 hours last night and got 5-6k litres of grapes lol
This is one of the things I'm most excited about is the grapes and olives. Just being able to use those small tractors will be fun lol. Awesome video fc trying not to watch to many videos so I can kinda learn as I go but thus one I had to watch.
Great videos. My way of cracking the problem regarding getting the mulchers close enough is: 2 x Fendt 211 V Vario and 2 x TMC Cancela TPN 140. Create two CoursePlay routes, one driving on the left and one on the right of the vines. Change offset on both to -0.6 m with mulchers on the rear of the Fendt. Both will now focus on one row, mulch pretty close to the vines and skip one row.
The late 80s early 90s had a farm simulator but used for educational use . with water management using fish to keep the water ditches clean from plants. and irigation of the land. simple but methodical .
huge thanks for this tutorial. The in-game description of how it works is really bad and not very clear on how you put the plants down and get the correct distance, so this is a big help for those of us who can't be arsed to create a test farm
When you are mulching, do you have to get as close as possible to the poles? I have them spaced as close as I can and if I go down the middle it leaves some grass under the vines? It looks like I may need to do 2 passes each row
just come to this video to see if @Farmercop did that test... Since he normally does those sort of tests... Or even, if you could space out more some of the vines and use a traditional tractor with solid fertilizer instead of the sprayer
I have the same issue. After some testing i found that i can get to 100% if i mulch and cultivate everything, including under the vines. Doing one pass down the middle lands me on 96%-98%, it varies some. For me that is a loss i'm willing to take compared to the hassle and frustration getting stuck on poles and vines all the time. I also use the ingame fertspreader (42 m). Can be a pain to get through but saves so much time.
@@PedroLuisFerreira I noticed that it isn't so much how straight the rows are, but how uneven the ground is. I tried to use the GPS but now and then the tractor "wobbles" from side to side and that's when it get stuck when your trying to get really close. Glad that we are at least two with the same results 😀
Is there any way to prune two rows of grapes at a time on the console. I’ve put the pre-pruner on front and back and it will do it, if I go real slow but getting it to stay lined up doesn’t work great.
Seriously helpful tip for mulching: do it while reversing your tractor. For some reason this makes it much easier. One side of the mulcher has a guard as well so make sure you use that side. Thank me later!
Oh dear.. after building large orchard, I found out that on some maps (Felsbrunn 22) grapes are half broken - grass to mulch don't grow, even crazier, mulcher over brown ground instantly spawns grass that is immune to mulching and grass disappear in autumn and ground reverts back to brown. Tested on No Mans Land map, there grapes work as advertised. Don't be like me, before going all in into orchards, test if they actually work on map you are playing.
I'm stuck on how to sell the grapes, I've only got a very small vine yard, about 10% in the trailer, but when I unload it it tips back then goes back to its normal position so nothing comes out
After 3 years I have new problem that grape field seem dead, It said need plowing. I start with mulching but It seem like it does nothing. I skip to Disc-O-vigne V subsoiler seem like it change grass texture but the next day texture is back to before do Disc-O-vigne. Did it need to remove grape construction rows and start put a new ?
@@FarmerCop on ps4 before recent update it wasn't registering both being done at same time and still had to go thru orchard twice. Haven't tried post update tho. I prefer your tutorial videos above anyone else's btw
At the beginning where you wait a day before mulching for me it took a month but when i changed the days per month to 1 i had to save and leave then re open the savegame for it to take effect
Did you go down each row twice ie left side then right side when mulching, it's a shame equipment isn't as wide as the narrowest you can place the vines
@@FarmerCopI also did twice but on the info help menu under grape it says mulch the middle to remove long grass/weeds so next time I'm just going down once and I'm guessing nothing will change but will check harvest percentage
@@tomallen3946 would love to know how this works because on map it looks like i did dots all over place so that doesnt help at all an whenlooking at it in game i have to go down row 2 times at least sometimes 3rd time if there spot i missed but getting stuck on poles so much i hate doing it now lol almost rather not do it at all but i dont knw how its really suppose to be done in this video he just went down outside an then it skips to whole thing being done so not sure how he did it in actual rows or how close he got or if he got stuck as well cause on outside there only one row to avoid when you have rows on both sides its alot harder to avoid collision. the map filter is worst part says needs rolling an plowing i plow the vineyard and it goes for red square on map to red square with tiny brown dots everywhere but stil 95% says needs plowing same with fert doesnt cover everything theres spots it just wont go to 100% also if i walk onto vines it will say needs plowing but doesnt tell me i need to mulch or culivate or prune even tho i know those steps are what i need to do but trying to do this without tuturials would be impossible to figure out because nothing works correctly on map filter or feild info when standing on it
So, I successfully grew grapes last season but, this season nothing grew. I did everything I was supposed too. What do I have to do to grow them every season?
Hello Thank You For Your Beautiful videos verry helpful ! I like to start with Grapes on a piece of Lost Land behind the Road Can I Just start There or Do I have to plow it first? Greetz
3 years now I can't mulch for second time but I take exactly the same harvest . And the graphics sow me that I have grass on the field. Also I delete and remake the grape field but at both of the time the map show me that I need plow even I use every time the subsoil
to many grapes cause lag on consol be aware of that. at around 4HA its laggy if you have a farm already set up with alot of equipment. takes around 30 seconds in between each item deleted to remove then as well and removing them from plowed soil cultivated field.. turns it to regular grass.
I have a qw and I have not found the answer anywhere on the internet. I placed grapes down, did the entire process, harvested, pruned, then mulched again when the grass dot high, but it looks as though the land is already cultivated. Do i just need to do that once? Or do I need to continue to do it every time, even though there's no indication it is doing anything? Please help, someone! Thanks in advance :)
Go to your garage in the menu under the shop then click left or right and your leased items should come up rather than purchased items. Then you can click to return. Hope this helps
Hopefully with the improvements promised to the workers as time goes on that will be something we can get them to do, especially harvesting that should be very simple for the worker.
I’ve played all the farm Sims but to be honest got 22 yesterday and it’s the hardest to play out of all of them still getting used to the controls but it’s just a bit tricky to do everything on Xbox beeten when I get my pc and my wheel set up hopefully
You can build a production facility that turns it into "juice". I can't remember what it's called in game, but I saw it in build mode. I imagine they don't refer to it as wine, to keep the ESRP rating at "E".
@@jeremynichols2704 that would basically be a winery. You need a crusher to remove the stems, a press to press out the juice, and refrigerated tanks to hold the juice. That's pretty much a winery without a bottling line.
With the game rating as it sits they cant put alcohol in the game anx cant release mods with alchol related products, but some 3rd party sites will likely release winery production facilities it just will be PC only
I can't help but notice that the game has mechanically harvesting grapes completely wrong. The harvester doesn't store the grapes, it harvests them and sends them up an incline conveyor and over to the next row, where a tractor is towing a harvest bin that catches them all.
I worked was a welder and fabricator for blueline equipment manufacturing, I used to build these berry harvesters. They have a compartment on each side on the top of the harvester that stores the grapes and when then they dump out of the back. New design. By the way I could build one in less than 2 weeks. The guys would paint it in a day. The assemblers would have everything put together in a day. Total cost to build one is around $70k. They charge almost half a million for one. Farmers are getting ripped off. But then again if you're buying brand new equipment you're probably not worried about cost.
Some tips with grapes.
1. You can attach the mulcher to the front, and the cultivator to the back. Kills 2 birds with one stone, and cuts the time in half.
2. There are other small tractors with higher horsepower that can still fit down the rows to make my first suggestions easier. The Landini struggles with HP to do both. It can do it, but it's a bit slow.
3. There are multiple other fertilizer options that are better than what the game wants you to do. The green and orange solid spreader that has a 40ish spread width can fit down the rows, and knock out about 5-6 rows on each side at a time. You can also opt to leave a bit of space between every 14 rows. The HARDI Rubicon 9000 self-propelled sprayer's arms can cover 7 rows on each side, and you can adjust the arm to be high enough to go over the top of the vine poles.
there's also a manure spreader that'll fit between rows if you have poopy animals (pigs and cows), but currently no slurry spreader that'll fit. They do use (admittedly tiny) slurry spreaders IRL, so likely only a matter of time before a mod comes along. As far as I can tell you never need herbicide and Giants still don't know that pests and pesticide is a thing (likely because they don't want kids crying that their crops got eaten by bugs)
You can also put a pruner on the front and back of the tractor and do both sides at the same time. You have to stay right down the middle though
You do pruning a month after your harvest (or 2), basically when they leaves are no longer green
yea this video is fake news and needs to be redone
It's nice. I've watched multiple videos but got the real information I needed from the comment section. Thanks joker.
What how do I keep getting the 100th like on people’s comments
are all the leaves meant to fall off? 💀
@@ryandonohoe7308 In winegrowing, we use what is known as grafted vines. A hardy grape variety that can cope well with the sometimes cold weather in Germany, for example, provides the roots and the trunk. This is cut just above the ground and an Italian, very productive and fruity grape variety (or other) may be planted in it. This means that this type of wine can also be grown in more difficult areas, or that certain varieties can be grown at all.
Why am I telling you this? Wine growing is anything but completely "natural" and is more of an art of stealing something beautiful from nature. It is also a business and is geared towards profit.
If you leave the leaves on in winter, the plant has to take care of them. But this "Frankenstein monster" (hehe) will never manage to do that and will definitely not survive the winter[1]. The leaves also represent a large surface area. This is simply an attack surface for fungi and other pests. You know the simple solution to avoid the problem:)
Next year, the shoots would have produced new leaves anyway.
The vines also have to be cut short, otherwise the plant cannot take care of itself. This is also done to put quality over quantity. Depending on how you prune the vine, you will end up with less mass of grapes, but they will be of higher quality when it comes to the natural sugar content and the aroma-determining components. Nobody needs bad wine, let alone thousands of liters of it (and above all: nobody BUYS it! Hehehe). This was the reason for a massive decline in wineries all over the world in the 1980s and 90s. You had to learn and adapt. Or just sell and close the shop!
Excuse my little extensive and not requested side-note about the background of such a simple thing like "leaves" ... Cheers, my friends!:)
[1] Edit, I think that needs an explanation: Creating a vineyard costs a lot of money and, above all, time and care. The vines have a lifespan of a decade and some even many, with their own history and story ... and even protected brand names of wine varieties that produce unaffordably expensive wine, you maybe heard of those "nerds":))) Nevertheless, it is part of everyday life that individual plants die (there are always animals, pests and... they are living beings just like you and me, they can just die...) and have to be replaced. In modern operations, this is often externalized and a task for trained specialists and high tech breeding companies.
You really don't want to have half or even the entire vineyard die! Just because you left the leaves on:)
thank you for making short and simple tutorials, every time i want to get into something new on farming sim i always look for a video made by you as it just quickly gets the information across without any bla bla
I also love how you dont go "just press Shift + P to open up construction menu" but instead show how to access it in a controller friendly manner
As an IRL grape farmer I'm super excited to try all this out!!! Thanks Farmer Cop!
is the game similar to real life?
@firstgradeteacher9915 at least in my families place. Harvesting is mostly done by hand. And spraying is mostly done by plane. But yeah pretty similar.
@@firstgradeteacher9915 the game gets a lot of things right. Of course, it's a game, so many things are skipped to keep it fun and engaging.
There is practically no manual labor in it. Most of everything in here is done with a machine or vehicle. Where I come from, grapes are almost 40 percent manual labor. But in here, that's all skipped because going to tie them or prune them by hand would take *forever*
I am a real life grape farmer (vineyard manager). I take care of 16 acres of vineyards and grow 5 different varieties of grapes for a family owned and operated winery that has been in business for 135 years. It looks like they have simplified the process greatly. I can tell you how it works in real life.
Assuming the vineyard is already established (mature vines with posts and wire).
After harvest, during the winter, the vines are all pruned by hand. Each and every vine, custom pruned to promote healthy growth for the next 2 seasons to come.
After pruning (still during winter or very early spring) we pound down the posts which get pushed up by the frosty ground. Then we tighten all the wires. There are 3 or 4 wires per row. They will stretch loose and break under the load of the heavy grapes. Once all that is repaired…
Then we have to go out and “tie down” the pruned vines. Using twist ties to secure the newly pruned vines to the wires.
Then in the spring, before things start growing, we spray a pre emergent herbicide under the vines with a modified sprayer tractor. This will prevent many weeds from rooting and make life much easier with regards to weeds.
As the grapes start to grow they get a round of fertilizer. Solid pellet fertilizer from a broadcast spreader attachment on a tractor.
I then go back through the rows and remove any “suckers”. Those are baby vines that grow from the base of the mature vine trunks. If these are not cut away they will sap a lot of growth energy from the mature vine. Like the pruning this is done by hand and it’s a LOT of backbreaking bending over to accomplish.
Then the season really starts and the vines start growing.
Throughout the season (at a rate of every week basically) you have to;
Mow the grass between the rows.
Spray various fungicides to keep molds and mildews from destroying your crop.
Spray various insecticides to keep bugs from destroying your crops.
Spray various herbicides under the rows to kill off the weeds that pop up and compete with the vines.
Along the way you will also have to repair posts and wire and reattach vines that become untied due to storm damage. Possibly fertilize again if needed.
I also trim away some of the leaves in mid/late summer. This is to provide good air flow and sunlight penetration.
Finally when the grapes are ripe they are picked by hand. Every bunch of grapes carefully cut from the vine and collected.
Farming grapes is a laborious and tedious process to say the least. If all I did was what this video game presents there would never be any grapes to harvest by the end of the season. They would likely all wither and die from mildew and be eaten by bugs long before the grapes ever came close to being ready to harvest.
All that said I am still looking forward to trying my hand at digital viticulture. I guarantee I’ll never even break a sweat.
@@jeremydurdil556 And you're right. Since I last posted, I have already bought the game, and it has been extremely dumbed down. Which makes sense, I mean, you're there to have fun, not to work a second job.
Nevertheless, I still enjoyed reading your reply. Your way of farming is almost exactly identical to ours.
Just an FYI if you buy a field and plant your grapes in the field rather than just land, you can then hire a worker to do everything you need them to do. Also, if you want to save time, put the cultivator on the back and the mulched on the front and do them at the same time.
Yeah, but you need to hire the worker for each row.
@@silentgamer666 Equivalent to just activating cruise control after you line up lol.
@@Shredderof_POWDA indeed.
The power of the combination machines is too low for high row per time . But with the new update now u can use litterly all small tractors 🚜 at the rows so now finally I can combine at full throttle. Also u can take 2 of the things that clear the leaves 🍃 to clean 2 rows at the time ⏲️
The pruning is done when the leafs turn brown a take them all off to clear the vineyard for next season as far I can recall
yes, pruning is normally done in late winter (Dec to Feb), when the vines are dormant and the leaves have fallen off. You definitely wouldn't do it when they are green and growing like the game has it.
Yes you are right :)
IRL You can also prune if the leaves have overgrown and are blocking the sunlight for the grapes.
@@lilwhitecrow that's different and it's called thinning
@@VitisViniferaGoogle q++
Man oh man I love the idea of grapes. This is my first game owned for my new Xbox series x. I spent 6 hours playing today after watching your tutorials. Grape equipment was tough at first... but I'm getting the hang of not getting caught on the poles. I found it easy to harvest by zooming in Full, then angle the cam center. You can watch your harvesters entry point like that. If only I could hide the helper menu & speed up time without going to the settings menu.
@@ThatGuy-ve9tf yep! They're interesting for a change.... but I've switched to sugarbeats and have been enjoying it. I wish there were more options like Watermelon, pumpkin, etc. That could be fun.
i was super excited for grapes but when i did try them yesterday for first time i found itto be a nightmare it is probally my fault but i find i have to mulch an culltivate so many times back an forth an when i check the map its dots of completed stages makes me think im not doing anything but then i also had collision issues on everything i lined rows straight they now snap so not alot i can do there but tractor gets stuck at least 5 times per row also tool only does half the row so i have to turn around an go back down same row twice for it to look done but on map it still looks terrible but thats ok then i try an use harvester was so looking forward to this it gets stuck an wedged so many times ive even tried setting cruise to 2 mph an setting camera angle every way possible ijust cant get it done without issues but still enjoy the grapes being added to game i know alot of my issues are my fault an i need to learn how to use tools better but collision is truely a nightmare lol. i did plant them on open land flat just meadow grass but it wants me to roll field and plow theres no roller in game small enough so that i have to ignore but theres a plow i just dont notice any differance in doing them map still says needs plowing an rolling ground looks the same the only thing that seemed to work 100% an be rewarding an fun was dumping gra[es from harvester to trailer lol that worked great no issues obviously it would but every other part of it feels awful atm took forever to do 1 harvest around 4 hours last night and got 5-6k litres of grapes lol
Thank you Farmer Cop! Have fun and stay safe!
This is one of the things I'm most excited about is the grapes and olives. Just being able to use those small tractors will be fun lol. Awesome video fc trying not to watch to many videos so I can kinda learn as I go but thus one I had to watch.
Great videos.
My way of cracking the problem regarding getting the mulchers close enough is:
2 x Fendt 211 V Vario and 2 x TMC Cancela TPN 140.
Create two CoursePlay routes, one driving on the left and one on the right of the vines.
Change offset on both to -0.6 m with mulchers on the rear of the Fendt.
Both will now focus on one row, mulch pretty close to the vines and skip one row.
Thank you for all your work and helping others, in your knowledge
The late 80s early 90s had a farm simulator but used for educational use . with water management using fish to keep the water ditches clean from plants. and irigation of the land. simple but methodical .
When mulching/cultivating do you need to get all the grass between the rows or is one pass enough. The mulcher is much smaller then the rows
Always VERY to the point and great information!
Love it!
I'm just now growing grapes for the first time lol
Man Fs22 has got you uploading B2B. Thank you
Excellent and simple overview of grapes in FS22. I look forward to your other grapes production and grapes testing video. Thank you, FC!
huge thanks for this tutorial. The in-game description of how it works is really bad and not very clear on how you put the plants down and get the correct distance, so this is a big help for those of us who can't be arsed to create a test farm
When you mulch and cultivate the rows just put the mulcher up front of the tractor and the cultivator on the back. All done in one pass. Go for it
When you are mulching, do you have to get as close as possible to the poles? I have them spaced as close as I can and if I go down the middle it leaves some grass under the vines? It looks like I may need to do 2 passes each row
Wondering this myself, thats actually why im watching
just come to this video to see if @Farmercop did that test... Since he normally does those sort of tests... Or even, if you could space out more some of the vines and use a traditional tractor with solid fertilizer instead of the sprayer
I have the same issue. After some testing i found that i can get to 100% if i mulch and cultivate everything, including under the vines. Doing one pass down the middle lands me on 96%-98%, it varies some. For me that is a loss i'm willing to take compared to the hassle and frustration getting stuck on poles and vines all the time. I also use the ingame fertspreader (42 m). Can be a pain to get through but saves so much time.
@@nyhamnplattan Yes I use the same fertilizer method. and will also only do one pass, as I tested and got the same results as you, so thanks
@@PedroLuisFerreira I noticed that it isn't so much how straight the rows are, but how uneven the ground is. I tried to use the GPS but now and then the tractor "wobbles" from side to side and that's when it get stuck when your trying to get really close.
Glad that we are at least two with the same results 😀
What does the mulching and cultivating actually do?
Do i need to mulch again after pruning or will it just regrow?
Next additions for grapes should be wine and vinegar.
thank you, its very fun to learn this tipe of things.
Is there any way to prune two rows of grapes at a time on the console. I’ve put the pre-pruner on front and back and it will do it, if I go real slow but getting it to stay lined up doesn’t work great.
There really isnt a way no
Seriously helpful tip for mulching: do it while reversing your tractor. For some reason this makes it much easier. One side of the mulcher has a guard as well so make sure you use that side.
Thank me later!
Because rear steer? Or are you just mounting the mulcher on the front of the tractor?
@@nfsfanAndrew I tried on the front but not as good imo. Yes because of rear steer!
Can you mulch on the front of tractor, and cultivate on the rear? At same time
Oh dear.. after building large orchard, I found out that on some maps (Felsbrunn 22) grapes are half broken - grass to mulch don't grow, even crazier, mulcher over brown ground instantly spawns grass that is immune to mulching and grass disappear in autumn and ground reverts back to brown.
Tested on No Mans Land map, there grapes work as advertised.
Don't be like me, before going all in into orchards, test if they actually work on map you are playing.
tysm for tutorial am new here but this helped me so much❤❤❤
Thanksfor this guide on Monday I'm going to try to do grapes
do you get slots back after removing an orchard?
do you have to cultivate grapes if im playing with Plow off? gonna look through comments
I’m gonna save this to drafts you are helpful man
how we know what crops keep the silos, i didnt see any explanation. For example, which silos keeps grapes?
No silos hold grapes EXCEPT for the railroad silos
I'm stuck on how to sell the grapes, I've only got a very small vine yard, about 10% in the trailer, but when I unload it it tips back then goes back to its normal position so nothing comes out
Nice video 👍 if I recall the promotional material correctly the pruning needs to be done when the leaves on the vinyard turned brown.
That would make sense :)
After 3 years I have new problem that grape field seem dead, It said need plowing. I start with mulching but It seem like it does nothing. I skip to Disc-O-vigne V subsoiler seem like it change grass texture but the next day texture is back to before do Disc-O-vigne. Did it need to remove grape construction rows and start put a new ?
You shouldnt have to do that, that sounds like a bug of some sort
Thanks for the vid Farmer Cop, great explanation as always.
will the grapes grow after harvest? cause i harvested the grape and now its not growing its showing me withered instead of growing.
They will just give them some time
So when we fertilising do we make go light blue not dark
Do the grapes grow back naturally after I harvest them? Or do I have to do something with them
After puning they will come back :)
buy a field and create long lines.
when a grape or olive harvester is on auto pilot and you enter construction menu it will keep going in a line :)
Are things designed for orchard farming just narrow so they can fot?
Thank you. I could not figure who this.
Do I need to plant grapes in a field of grass or just paint over a pre existing field
You can do either, they can be placed anywhere it will let you
Have a prob with the train tack area sell point (1st one on list) how do I use it???
You have to rent the train, load the items onto the train, then send the train to the train track sell points
Does it work if you put the mulcher on front and cultivae in the back at the same time ?
It might, I have not tested it though
@@FarmerCop on ps4 before recent update it wasn't registering both being done at same time and still had to go thru orchard twice. Haven't tried post update tho. I prefer your tutorial videos above anyone else's btw
At the beginning where you wait a day before mulching for me it took a month but when i changed the days per month to 1 i had to save and leave then re open the savegame for it to take effect
Really helpful thank you
Is there any reason you can’t mulch and cultivate at the same time?
thanks.
Great vid farmer cop keep it up!
Did you go down each row twice ie left side then right side when mulching, it's a shame equipment isn't as wide as the narrowest you can place the vines
Yea i did it wasnt wide enough to cover it all
@@FarmerCopI also did twice but on the info help menu under grape it says mulch the middle to remove long grass/weeds so next time I'm just going down once and I'm guessing nothing will change but will check harvest percentage
@@tomallen3946 would love to know how this works because on map it looks like i did dots all over place so that doesnt help at all an whenlooking at it in game i have to go down row 2 times at least sometimes 3rd time if there spot i missed but getting stuck on poles so much i hate doing it now lol almost rather not do it at all but i dont knw how its really suppose to be done in this video he just went down outside an then it skips to whole thing being done so not sure how he did it in actual rows or how close he got or if he got stuck as well cause on outside there only one row to avoid when you have rows on both sides its alot harder to avoid collision. the map filter is worst part says needs rolling an plowing i plow the vineyard and it goes for red square on map to red square with tiny brown dots everywhere but stil 95% says needs plowing same with fert doesnt cover everything theres spots it just wont go to 100% also if i walk onto vines it will say needs plowing but doesnt tell me i need to mulch or culivate or prune even tho i know those steps are what i need to do but trying to do this without tuturials would be impossible to figure out because nothing works correctly on map filter or feild info when standing on it
Thank you
Can anyone tell me how much it would cost to plant grapes on field 54 of elmcreek?
I can’t find any info on how much it costs per ac/ha
Is there anyway to get rid of the grape orchards?
demolish in the build menu
The grass in my one isnt cutting aith the mulcher, any help
So, I successfully grew grapes last season but, this season nothing grew. I did everything I was supposed too. What do I have to do to grow them every season?
Did you wait for the leaves to turn brown before you pruned?
The guy who did this video didn’t wait to prune so he did it wrong.
How do you revert a field back to other crops after demolishing grape vines?
You have to use a plow, turn on allow create fields and plow where you want there to be a field
Did you ever do the grape yield test video?
Hello Thank You For Your Beautiful videos verry helpful ! I like to start with Grapes on a piece of Lost Land behind the Road Can I Just start There or Do I have to plow it first? Greetz
Extremely helpful, stay safe out there.
What yield effect is there if you use AI for mulch/cultivation and it doesn’t get completely against the vine?
Look at your yield bonus % and fert % on the field info. If it reads the same as doing it by yourself normally then you have your answer.
Hi FC you have to wait for the leaves to go brown before you prune. Love the stuff you do
3 years now I can't mulch for second time but I take exactly the same harvest . And the graphics sow me that I have grass on the field. Also I delete and remake the grape field but at both of the time the map show me that I need plow even I use every time the subsoil
What about jelly Or jam ?
Very helful video, thanks!
very nice FC, thank you
to many grapes cause lag on consol be aware of that. at around 4HA its laggy if you have a farm already set up with alot of equipment. takes around 30 seconds in between each item deleted to remove then as well and removing them from plowed soil cultivated field.. turns it to regular grass.
I have a qw and I have not found the answer anywhere on the internet. I placed grapes down, did the entire process, harvested, pruned, then mulched again when the grass dot high, but it looks as though the land is already cultivated. Do i just need to do that once? Or do I need to continue to do it every time, even though there's no indication it is doing anything? Please help, someone! Thanks in advance :)
same issue here really wanna know
If I have plowing turned off do I still need to cultivate the grapes??
Yes, plowing is different
I am having issues with returning the leased items in FS22. Can you make a video on how the leasing and borrowing works?
Go to your garage in the menu under the shop then click left or right and your leased items should come up rather than purchased items. Then you can click to return. Hope this helps
This is great! I can’t wait to get the game Monday!
You should be able to use courseplay to hire worker for orchardwork.
Yep you sure can! Keep in mind this video was released before we had ANY mods much less courseplay and courseplay is only for PC players :)
Is there any way you can store grapes like in a silo or something
Yes there are modded multifruit silos you can download or you can usually put them in the railroad silos on any map
@@FarmerCop didn’t about the railroad silos thanks for letting me know 👍
If you get sick of grapes can you sell the processing unit?
Yes, but after it is sold you can never re-purchase it
Thanks for the reply. Maybe I'm dense butbI dont see how to sell it
Whats with the white grass?
Awesome video!!!
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Hopefully with the improvements promised to the workers as time goes on that will be something we can get them to do, especially harvesting that should be very simple for the worker.
lol the ai workers are still gigantic doo doo
Dose this work the same with olives?
Mostly, I have an olives video as well: th-cam.com/video/oxt7xn5uWa8/w-d-xo.html
when you say fertilize it 2 time do you mean do it 2 time or do it 1 time then wait then do it for the 2nd time
Do it, wait, then do it again
Thanks
This video helped me so much
Why fertilize twice tho? Isn't that a feature in 22 where you can double up? So both fertilizer states in one pass?
Yes depending on the sprayer, this sprayer does not give you the ability to double up
is there a crop rotation in game?
I do not believe so
Can you just run a normal spreader with solid fertilizer down them
Have not tried that yet but would probably work
Thanks so much
Why does mine say I need to do rolling to the grape orchard
You dont have to roll if you dont want to, it will add a 2.5% yield bonus theoretically but not really designed to be done with grapes and olives
@@FarmerCop ok thank you because there is no space to roll it I was like what?!?
When Jeff Daniels teaches you Farming Sim 22
This guy sounds like George Lucas 😁
I’ve played all the farm Sims but to be honest got 22 yesterday and it’s the hardest to play out of all of them still getting used to the controls but it’s just a bit tricky to do everything on Xbox beeten when I get my pc and my wheel set up hopefully
It is more complex but once you get used to it I think it will become a lot more fun :)
I’ve been playing way longer now and yeah it is but I love it ahah
Wow fs22 vids b2b :)
Great news! And what's the name of the map?
This is on elmcreek
my grass isn’t growing at all and i don’t know what to do…can anyone help
So no option to turn it in to wine
you need Winery Simulator expansion for that
You can build a production facility that turns it into "juice". I can't remember what it's called in game, but I saw it in build mode. I imagine they don't refer to it as wine, to keep the ESRP rating at "E".
@@jeremynichols2704 that would basically be a winery. You need a crusher to remove the stems, a press to press out the juice, and refrigerated tanks to hold the juice. That's pretty much a winery without a bottling line.
Farmer cop could you do a video on the buildings and sheds pls
Out now for you :)
Hopefully courseplay will be able to automatise all this
A bit sad they gave us france, and grapes... but no wine. Looking forward to a winery mod lol
With the game rating as it sits they cant put alcohol in the game anx cant release mods with alchol related products, but some 3rd party sites will likely release winery production facilities it just will be PC only
How to remove that grass from under the grapes between the rows?
Get really close with the mulcher, may not be able to get it all though
I can't help but notice that the game has mechanically harvesting grapes completely wrong. The harvester doesn't store the grapes, it harvests them and sends them up an incline conveyor and over to the next row, where a tractor is towing a harvest bin that catches them all.
Not with the new hollands braud, they do, do the dumping motion and dont have a boom.
you realy think they fail at rebuilding a manufacturer licenced model? Maybe check out the real model yourself; watch?v=Xn5wuyyx3bA
I worked was a welder and fabricator for blueline equipment manufacturing, I used to build these berry harvesters. They have a compartment on each side on the top of the harvester that stores the grapes and when then they dump out of the back. New design. By the way I could build one in less than 2 weeks. The guys would paint it in a day. The assemblers would have everything put together in a day. Total cost to build one is around $70k. They charge almost half a million for one. Farmers are getting ripped off. But then again if you're buying brand new equipment you're probably not worried about cost.
couldn't you in theory spray cultivate than spray again?
there's no point in spraying after cultivation. The point of spraying is to have high quality grapes.
Probably haha havent tested it all yet
Don't you grow grapes and olives essentially identically to how you plant and grow other crops?