Jane how important is it sticking to the correct fingering as the sheet suggest? For example, I use my right hand at min 8:00, using fingers 1&2 to hit B and C #. Instead you're using your left hand to hit B. Should I fix this or is it not that big a deal?I've done this and it used to piss my piano teacher off but it's what felt most comfortable to me. Although it may not be the most efficient since it requires my hand to jump around a lot, it just seems more natural.
"...Be especially careful to choose the fingering which best suits your hand and the phrasing of the passage. Good editions of music usually have sensible fingerings, but if there is any department of piano playing where you should follow your own judgment it is that of fingering. The best teachers will always tell you that..." Charles Cooke, _Playing the Piano for Pleasure_ For more, enter "fingering" in the search box of my website. It is on the Sight-reading webpage.
What would be Sooooo useful is if you did this with a "bell" metronome (I.e. dongs on the first beat). I find it massively difficult to "feel" the timing in this first bit and can't reconcile it with people's full-speed renditions either. Mental block?!? I appear to have the exact same music you do, and I can count what you're doing and know (in my brain) that it's right, I just can't "get it". I'll set my own bell metronome on this and just keep going over and over until it (hopefully) "clicks". Thanks for such a helpful tutorial.
I tried that (different sound on 1st beat) but it drove me crazy whenever I made mistakes and had to backtrack. Glad you found an app that counts out loud for you!
Every time I learn a new piece now I know that I'll have a tutorial by Jane to help me out. The last three or four pieces I've learned have been because of because of her. Thankyou Jane you're fantastic :)
Thank you so much for doing this. I’m learning this piece for one of my dearest friend who happened to be my piano teacher for about 7 years. This tutorial has helped me so much!
I love You Jane ! After working "with You" , Rêverie from Debussy during my broken leg break, now, I' m working with You on "clair de Lune" . My leg is OK now , but you give me the courage to continue even I have not a lot of time . Thank You so much . Chantal from France 🇫🇷 close to Paris
A Hello from Taiwan, thank you for your patience and tutorials immensely. Because of you, I was motivated to touch piano keys again and I also followed your sight-reading lessons. I feel so happy, thank you for your work and help. Love you!
Thank you so much Jane, your channel is always the first thing I go to when starting to learn a new piece. Your tutorial is always very helpful, really grateful for your work
that would be awesome :) I'd like to take this opportunity to tell everyone about a cause that means a lot to me. Please see my video "GoFundMe Help Sean Get a Practice Piano". Donate if you can, and spread the message. Thanks!
It's precisely why I'm here. I'm reading from Alfred's "Debussy An Introduction To His Piano Music" and the fingering of these arpeggios is exceedingly vague. In fact, the second and third runs have no fingering whatsoever, and I'm struggling to figure out how to best deal with this, as I would imagine many thousands of better students have done before I came along!
for the first bar at 4:57 would you recommend playing the bass clef arpeggio bit entirely with the left hand or use the right hand for the last note to help with speed?
I've decided to start up this piece on my winter break when I don't have lessons, and interpreting the music by myself this video has been extremely helpful to check my fingerings and timing. Thanks as always!!
Okay, only slooooow and robotic in the beginning as needed! :o) Wow wow again, just found your fantastic extensive list of songs tutorials...I was feeling piano stagnant but very alive now!!! Many thanks again.
You're so welcome! to be able to play by ear and read music is the best of both worlds. have you looked at my sight reading lessons? they might provide insight and speed your learning process.
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Wow, I am excited. Just learned about you Jane! Thank you so much and what a wonderful thing for you are doing for us lovers of piano playing! I plan to work on your Clair de Lune first. Cheers, Lily
I'm super late but after watching a show about Piano and in general listening to piano that got me through school I realized I would like to learn it one day. Hopefully I can play this piece in the future.
Hi Jane, thank you so much for this, it's a piece I have always wanted to play and now I'm at a solid higher intermediate level I will give it a go. Who knows if I will be able to master it but this video is so helpful, so thank you so much once again.
You can learn this, Steven. Key is to practice one short section at a time. Sometimes I would try to learn the hardest section first. If I fail, then I don't bother learning from the top. Saves a lot of time and frustration. There are countless great pieces to learn!
Thank you so much! I started learning this piece today and this video really helped me with some fingering problems that I have. Hopefully, I can manage to learn this entire piece 🤞
Jane thank you. You can’t believe how much you help me each time. Every time I want to stop learning a piece, you are there. Please can you upload Beethoven Variation from La Molinera “Nel Cor me Sento”. Thanks.
I've recently been trying to really learn how to play this piece and after just a couple weeks of working on it, it's come a long way. I decided to look up some fingering tips and I just now discovered this video. Page 1 was pretty easy Page 2 is challenging but it's coming more naturally now. 4:57 I've been playing all the notes in the treble clef with my right hand instead of continuing the arpeggios with my left hand, I think I will continue playing it this way since that seems to be what Debussy was indicating with the cross staffing, plus I like how it feels. 7:58 This first measure marked by En animant gives me Hell. It's not the key since my brain normally likes 4 sharps but my hands are really having trouble here on this one measure 10:26 Debussy, why, just why. How can something that looks so easy be so difficult for my hands? The last section is still a work in progress since I'm mainly focused on the more technical middle section of the piece. Difficulties aside, I have no doubt that I will be able to play this piece well with sufficient practice
congrats, you will finish. re why something that looks so easy can be so difficult? playing piano is a sport. Steph Curry's 3-pointers look easy than this :) excellence takes years of practice
ok, don't wish to pour cold water on anyone who loves piano. but how about starting the right way? even on your 4-octave keyboard, you can learn to read music, an invaluable skill. Practice scales and arpeggios also, when you do get 88-keys, you will have a good head start! don't quit, ok?
Hi Jane I want to first start off and say your videos are AMAZING and thank you so much for the tutorials. My question is how do you use the pedal and when to use the pedal in clair de lune? For example, where to use it and how long. Thank you.
Hi Mia, nice to hear from you. Experiment holding different time lengths. The purpose is to make the sound pleasing. Holding the pedal too long causes "muddiness", that would sound annoying. Under-pedaling is preferable to over-pedaling. Key is to listen. We can press the pedal before, with, or after playing the beginning note. Listen for the different effects. Sometimes we gently "pump" the pedal -- depressed a little -- quick up and down successive movements when the passage needs pedaling but too noisy if held down. There might be editions with Ped markings, search imslp and use "View" to see the score. There are master teachers on YT who discuss the sustain pedal.
Pedaling is difficult to teach. Do you best by listening to the sounds you produce while trying different approaches. There are probably scores with pedal markings, and there are some lessons on YT.
Fingering depends on hand structure, so you can imagine one editor's fingering won't suit everyone. I'll copy and paste a quote on my website: "...Be especially careful to choose the fingering which best suits your hand and the phrasing of the passage. Good editions of music usually have sensible fingerings, but if there is any department of piano playing where you should follow your own judgment it is that of fingering. The best teachers will always tell you that. Even such fine editing as that of Rafael Joseffy should not be followed in its fingering unless you feel it suits you. In fact Joseffy had some strange fingering crotchets -- such as changing fingers on repeated notes even in molto adagio passages -- which few wish to follow..." Charles Cooke, _Playing the Piano for Pleasure_
@@janepianotutorials My piano teacher always stressed the importance of following the fingering of the original composer. But after I've mastered the piece, I would feel justified in modifying it to suit my hand style.
@@whale6144 Does your teacher know whether Debussy added fingering to his manuscript? Fingering is usually added by editors, whose hands differ greatly. That's why each edition has different fingering. Would be interesting to see Debussy's!
@@janepianotutorials I'm not sure what my teacher knew because I was just a child and did as I was instructed... But she sure acted like she knew, lol .
Hi Jane, would it be possible to angle the camera so that we can see the shadows of the keys a little more? because sometimes it's hard to see what keys yo are hitting
Hello Elkebir, this top view is the BEST angle. Many are imitating me now, instead of filming from the side. From the side, do you see how fingers near the front, cover the ones at the back? Anyway, you are not supposed to be looking under my fingers. Humans are born to imitate, so focus on my finger movement, not what they hide. Try it on the parts where you had trouble. Did it work?
Need to set it to your competent pace. Experiment with 2 measures, then choose the tempo where you don’t make mistakes. After that, practice one short section at a time. Upon each repeat, tick it up 1bpm, you won’t even feel you’re going faster.
Hi Jane. I had a question. I am learning this as a birthday gift to my sister. I have been going off your tutorial so so so much! Would it be possible for you to do another one like this but a little more speed and with all the dynamics? I want to make this special. I understand if you can’t but I thought I’d ask
Hi Jennifer, that is so special and sweet of you. To see it faster, please use the speed tool. The dynamics are printed on the score, but we have to add our own feelings. That’s the reason each concert artist’s recording sounds different. Listen to as many as you can, then use your own interpretation. Good luck and a Happy Birthday to your sister.
Thank you!!!!! I didn’t even realize I could speed it up! Thank you! I never even thought about adding my own feel to it. Thank you for replying. Her birthday is July 18 and I’m trying to learn it by then. I looked through your videos and was wondering if you do any Rachmaninov?
Feeling is most important in music. Feeling comes from within, whereas technique can be trained. Re Rachmaninov tutorials, easiest is to use the search box on my website. Enter either Rachmaninov or Rachmaninoff.
Jane you have a website out side of TH-cam? And I guess I worded the feeling thing wrong I meant like you said playing my own interpretation. I guess I’m just really obsessed with getting it right because she’s my sister and I want it to be special.
My website link is in every video description or the end screen. It is full of information about the tutorials I made. It's free, no strings attached! Feeling is your own interpretation, but still has to follow the score -- what the composer intended :)
Okay, so my original comment seems to have disappeared (??!) but it was along the lines of Casper O'Hanes'. I justCOULD NOT feel the timing in this piece. BUT I managed to find a Metronome app for iPad which actually clicks on the first of the bar and (if you go looking in the options) gives you a voice which actually counts "2 3 4..."etc. in WORDS for you! Wow! what a difference that makes. Now I am actually making progress with this. So i'm going to big the metronome up here for fellow sufferers: it's called Soundbrenner. I don't work for them. BTW, they have just saved me hours of frustration 😁
In the first part, lower staff- second measure says natural g and a but plays it gb and a? Anyone who can help me, I'm not good at reading music sheets.
The first two notes. You play F and Ab on the right side of middle C(C4), but in the sheet, isn't that Ab and Bass C(C3)? This could just be because I'm not that good at reading music, but when following this exact sheet music it always sounded wrong until I came to see what others were playing.
As I wrote in the description, I was using a different edition than the one shown here. Best to follow your edition, and only refer to mine when in doubt.
@@janepianotutorials What sheet music are you using? Given that this other one sounds off with the first note I have a hard time following because my ears expect something else.
@@amando96 Can you access imslp? it is the best site for classical music, and should have many editions available for download or view. I played from the book Debussy Album for Piano Solo published by Kalmus (it says " original version, unedited ")
I have another question: around 14:17 in the score the left hand seems to span only 8 beats, whereas the right hand spans 9. So I'm guessing that the first two eigth notes in the left hand are to be interpreted as duplets. Is that correct? You seem to play it that way, too. There is a similar instance of this in bar 58.
@@janepianotutorials Gieseking played it that way (th-cam.com/video/L9c31_Uuz5k/w-d-xo.html ) and the automated sound of musescore (th-cam.com/video/L9c31_Uuz5k/w-d-xo.html ) renders it like a duplet aswell, though the latter case is quite the mystery..
Note the time signature of 9/8. Each measure consists of 3 triplets. But in Bar 3, there are 2 notes instead of 3, that's why the 2 is printed. When there is a tie, the note is held and not played. My sight-reading lessons might help you.
I have a question for you on the Chopin Opus 9 No 1. How exactly did you time out the triplets? (7ths, 22nds, etc) I'm finding it incredibly difficult.
Why do SO MANY pianists play 5:09 with the right hand starting later than the left? It's clearly shown in this sheet music at 5:09 and 5:28 to be both hands at the same time... TH-cam videos of Seong-Jin Cho, Lang Lang video 2:44, Kathia Buniatishvili video 2:05, all have an annoying delay.
I confuse, How come the flat symbol in bar 3 at min 3:35, it’s use “A minor” not G major for the flat symbol there? Sorry for the bad english but i really stuck in that part 🙏
Jane thank you for the answer but i think i still confuse, after the A natural, it’s suposed to be normal scale again, but at flat symbols on left and right hand it’s not a normal scale, can you explain more details? I’m sorry for my problem 🙏 hope you can help bcs i don’t find in any source
And i think i have one more question again, if the Ab serves to cancel the A natural at the first beat for LH, is the right hand following the scale too? Sorry for the bad english 🙏
can someone help me out what do those "2" above the notes mean? Also in the beginning what does this connection between F-A in the left hand and F-A in the right hand mean?
darksouls45688 We always adjust fingering to suit our hands. check for other editions with fingering on imslp? If none, experiment and pencil in fingering that you find comfortable. Good luck
Do you know how many hours and days and weeks that would take? Try the first line yourself and see. There is no need to write down all the fingering. Try imitation instead: a short section at a time. keep repeating until you get it.
Yes, for example, my scholarship winners started with intermediate, even advanced, pieces. They used synthesia combined with my tutorials for fingering reference. Humans are born to imitate, countless who play by ear can imitate me, then memorize short sections at a time. How about experimenting with a short section to test yourself? Should be interesting. Please know I do not recommend this approach. It's ok once in a while. But every piece is back to square one. The correct way is to learn to read music (use my unconventional sight-reading lessons), study proper posture, practice scales and arpeggios, build a solid foundation. If you can afford a private teacher, that's the way to go.
Jane how important is it sticking to the correct fingering as the sheet suggest? For example, I use my right hand at min 8:00, using fingers 1&2 to hit B and C #. Instead you're using your left hand to hit B. Should I fix this or is it not that big a deal?I've done this and it used to piss my piano teacher off but it's what felt most comfortable to me. Although it may not be the most efficient since it requires my hand to jump around a lot, it just seems more natural.
"...Be especially careful to choose the fingering which best suits your hand and the phrasing of the passage. Good editions of music usually have sensible fingerings, but if there is any department of piano playing where you should follow your own judgment it is that of fingering. The best teachers will always tell you that..." Charles Cooke, _Playing the Piano for Pleasure_
For more, enter "fingering" in the search box of my website. It is on the Sight-reading webpage.
What would be Sooooo useful is if you did this with a "bell" metronome (I.e. dongs on the first beat). I find it massively difficult to "feel" the timing in this first bit and can't reconcile it with people's full-speed renditions either. Mental block?!? I appear to have the exact same music you do, and I can count what you're doing and know (in my brain) that it's right, I just can't "get it". I'll set my own bell metronome on this and just keep going over and over until it (hopefully) "clicks". Thanks for such a helpful tutorial.
I tried that (different sound on 1st beat) but it drove me crazy whenever I made mistakes and had to backtrack. Glad you found an app that counts out loud for you!
@@janepianotutorials can I use my own fingering style that is comfortable to me in some parts???
GOD LORD yes 😊
Every time I learn a new piece now I know that I'll have a tutorial by Jane to help me out. The last three or four pieces I've learned have been because of because of her. Thankyou Jane you're fantastic :)
Thanks for your uplifting message, Gabe!
Thank you so much for doing this. I’m learning this piece for one of my dearest friend who happened to be my piano teacher for about 7 years. This tutorial has helped me so much!
Glad it helped, thanks for writing!
Thanks I'm finally done with Clair De Lune , now I'm going for Hungarian Rhapsody no.2!👍👍
That’s great. Have fun ! Will you be uploading your playing? Can make it unlisted for me 😊
In your dream...
@@Dylonely_9274 i learnt LA Campallena instead of HR2 cuz it seems boring to me.
@@ldgaming4213 nah bro, you can also do it.
@@GoD_LoRD04 La Campanella ? Lmfao could you share it in your TH-cam channel ?
Hi Aunt Jane, iam Eki, 8 years old and iam following your channel..and iam learning very fast from your videos..Love u and thank you.
Hello Eki. Nice to hear from you. Have fun playing piano. Love u too. Please be careful writing to strangers. Ask your parents to make sure it’s ok.
I might be late for this video, but not late enough to say how underrated your channel is. Great Job.
Lazer Thank you very much, Lazer!
I love You Jane ! After working "with You" , Rêverie from Debussy during my broken leg break, now, I' m working with You on "clair de Lune" . My leg is OK now , but you give me the courage to continue even I have not a lot of time . Thank You so much .
Chantal from France 🇫🇷 close to Paris
Glad your leg is ok now, and that you continue to enjoy playing piano. My best wishes to you
A Hello from Taiwan, thank you for your patience and tutorials immensely. Because of you, I was motivated to touch piano keys again and I also followed your sight-reading lessons. I feel so happy, thank you for your work and help. Love you!
Hi Maggie, nice to hear from you in Taiwan. Glad you started to play piano again. Good luck and enjoy learning. Love you too 😊
Thank you very much Jane, always looking for your tutorials and always finding the one I need... A great helping hand.
You’re welcome, Antonio. Thanks for letting me know ☺️
Thank you so much Jane, your channel is always the first thing I go to when starting to learn a new piece. Your tutorial is always very helpful, really grateful for your work
Thank you so much for your kind message! 🥰
Great, Jane! Great tutorial! I liked so much! Wonderful musics must be kept alive! Thank you for your work!
Thank you, Maurício, for your cheerful comment!
4:57 the part everyone came here for 😂
that would be awesome :) I'd like to take this opportunity to tell everyone about a cause that means a lot to me. Please see my video "GoFundMe Help Sean Get a
Practice Piano". Donate if you can, and spread the message. Thanks!
Same here!
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Yes
It's precisely why I'm here. I'm reading from Alfred's "Debussy An Introduction To His Piano Music" and the fingering of these arpeggios is exceedingly vague. In fact, the second and third runs have no fingering whatsoever, and I'm struggling to figure out how to best deal with this, as I would imagine many thousands of better students have done before I came along!
Best piano tutorial I've seen on TH-cam. Playing it slowly with the score visible is the best way
Thanks for your positive feedback, Jon!
for the first bar at 4:57 would you recommend playing the bass clef arpeggio bit entirely with the left hand or use the right hand for the last note to help with speed?
I recommend using the LH entirely so as not to break the arpeggio flow, but then I am no piano teacher...
okay thank you
I've decided to start up this piece on my winter break when I don't have lessons, and interpreting the music by myself this video has been extremely helpful to check my fingerings and timing. Thanks as always!!
Hi Hannah, that you are spending your winter break learning a piece on your own indicates you are an excellent student. You will do well!
Jane Thank you so much Jane!
Hannah Morrison llllll
Okay, only slooooow and robotic in the beginning as needed! :o) Wow wow again, just found your fantastic extensive list of songs tutorials...I was feeling piano stagnant but very alive now!!! Many thanks again.
Thanks, Lily. Your kindness perked me up a little too 😊
Thanks Jane!!!!!! This helps me with my finger positioning. I play by ear- but love to learn to read and this was so helpful in the effort!
You're so welcome! to be able to play by ear and read music is the best of both worlds. have you looked at my sight reading lessons? they might provide insight and speed your learning process.
Miss Jane I most definitely will!
Thank you Jane, I finally finished up the piece and I had a small recital which i uploaded on my channel. Thank you ever so much :)
That's amazing, Tsi, especially considering you have been playing piano only about 1 year. Congratulations on your hard work and determination.
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Thanks jane for the tutorial its help me a lot.i study this song now my old is 9,and its realy hard for my old😑😐😐 but you are great😘😘😘😘
Oh my, 9 year old is very early to study this piece. There are countless wonderful pieces to learn, are you sure you need to rush? 😊
I think i'm not rush but If i finish clair delune iwill study cake walk. It is hard jane?😥😥😥😥
What you are doing is so great. Thank you so much. I'm learning this piece now.
Thanks, Jason. Wonderful piece. Good luck with it.
Just came across this... this is excellent! Just what I need to get back into classical music. Thank you Jane!
Thank you, Mike, for your cheerful comment!
Wow, I am excited. Just learned about you Jane! Thank you so much and what a wonderful thing for you are doing for us lovers of piano playing! I plan to work on your Clair de Lune first. Cheers, Lily
Welcome, Lily. Enjoy making music on the piano. Don't play like robotic me :)
I'm super late but after watching a show about Piano and in general listening to piano that got me through school I realized I would like to learn it one day. Hopefully I can play this piece in the future.
Glad you discovered the piece. If you are a beginner, read my community post (channel tab) on how to use my lessons. Good luck
Thank you Jane! Finally completed!
Wonderful! Happy for you ❤️
Jane, you are the best!
Perfect tutorial, im finally done with these music
Thank you so much!
Thanks for your kind words. Glad you finished learning the piece!
Thank you so much😌 this is the easiest way for me to practice because i struggle with sight reading.
You're welcome, Eliza. Your sight-reading will improve with practice :)
This is so useful for learning it, thanks!
Thanks for writing, Dan. Glad it helps.
Hi Jane, thank you so much for this, it's a piece I have always wanted to play and now I'm at a solid higher intermediate level I will give it a go. Who knows if I will be able to master it but this video is so helpful, so thank you so much once again.
You can learn this, Steven. Key is to practice one short section at a time. Sometimes I would try to learn the hardest section first. If I fail, then I don't bother learning from the top. Saves a lot of time and frustration. There are countless great pieces to learn!
@@janepianotutorials thank you Jane for the encouragement and advice.
Thank you Jane!!!
You are so welcome!
Thank you so much! I started learning this piece today and this video really helped me with some fingering problems that I have. Hopefully, I can manage to learn this entire piece 🤞
You’re welcome. Good luck learning the piece!
Merci pour ce tuto permettant d étudier cette pièce aussi complexe que magnifique.
Glad you find it useful, thanks for letting me know ❤️
Brilliant! Thank you for doing this. It has been really helpful.
Thank you. You're welcome. Glad it helps.
Jane thank you. You can’t believe how much you help me each time. Every time I want to stop learning a piece, you are there. Please can you upload Beethoven Variation from La Molinera “Nel Cor me Sento”. Thanks.
You’re welcome, Nancy. Your request will get lost here, please post it under my request video. Another piece I never heard of 😊
Thank you, Aunt Jane I will do my best :) Love u.
Hi Eki, how did you do? a new comment brought me back here...
I love your lessons!
From Paris,France.
Thank you! Greetings to you in Paris!
I've recently been trying to really learn how to play this piece and after just a couple weeks of working on it, it's come a long way. I decided to look up some fingering tips and I just now discovered this video.
Page 1 was pretty easy
Page 2 is challenging but it's coming more naturally now.
4:57 I've been playing all the notes in the treble clef with my right hand instead of continuing the arpeggios with my left hand, I think I will continue playing it this way since that seems to be what Debussy was indicating with the cross staffing, plus I like how it feels.
7:58 This first measure marked by En animant gives me Hell. It's not the key since my brain normally likes 4 sharps but my hands are really having trouble here on this one measure
10:26 Debussy, why, just why. How can something that looks so easy be so difficult for my hands?
The last section is still a work in progress since I'm mainly focused on the more technical middle section of the piece.
Difficulties aside, I have no doubt that I will be able to play this piece well with sufficient practice
congrats, you will finish. re why something that looks so easy can be so difficult? playing piano is a sport. Steph Curry's 3-pointers look easy than this :) excellence takes years of practice
Such a gem.
Indeed, a must-do piece...
At least a must-hear piece... :))
excellent work!! Thanks Jane!
Thank you, Silius!
Amazing!! Thank you Jane 🙏
Thanks, and you’re welcome, Brian.
You made it seem so easy. THX
You're welcome. Good luck practicing the piece
What a marvelous job. You've got my subscription!
Thank you very much, Gonçalo!
Moooolto bene!! Veeeery nice! Grazie
Glad you like it 🤗
Great job Jane you have reached 100 000 subscribers!!!
Thank you, Bogdan!
Thank you for your lesson. I was finding this.
You’re very welcome ☺️
Thank u Aunt Jane I will do my best :)
How sweet of you to call me Aunt Jane. Good luck with your practice ❤️
Ty so much, Debussy 1st arabesque is my first piece to have learned (took long time) but this is my favourite piece after la Campanella.
The arabesque as your first piece is an accomplishment. congrats and enjoy learning this one
Jane and congrats on 100k subscribers!!! :)
thanks, it is all due to you guys!
Jane Congrats!!
KingDragonCat
thank you !!
Thank you very much ❤
You're welcome 😊❤️
I love piano and this is my first song to practice, i hope i will make it :')
ok, don't wish to pour cold water on anyone who loves piano. but how about starting the right way? even on your 4-octave keyboard, you can learn to read music, an invaluable skill. Practice scales and arpeggios also, when you do get 88-keys, you will have a good head start! don't quit, ok?
Hi Jane
I want to first start off and say your videos are AMAZING and thank you so much for the tutorials.
My question is how do you use the pedal and when to use the pedal in clair de lune?
For example, where to use it and how long.
Thank you.
Hi Mia, nice to hear from you. Experiment holding different time lengths. The purpose is to make the sound pleasing. Holding the pedal too long causes "muddiness", that would sound annoying. Under-pedaling is preferable to over-pedaling. Key is to listen.
We can press the pedal before, with, or after playing the beginning note. Listen for the different effects.
Sometimes we gently "pump" the pedal -- depressed a little -- quick up and down successive movements when the passage needs pedaling but too noisy if held down.
There might be editions with Ped markings, search imslp and use "View" to see the score. There are master teachers on YT who discuss the sustain pedal.
Thank you so much
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Thank U for this very helpful work
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for writing.
third arpeggio from 4:57 starting A flat I would use third finger instead of fifth and come over the top... wayyyyy easier
it is fine to experiment and find fingering that suits your hands better :)
Jane seu canal é maravilhoso!!!!..tem me ajudado muito no meu curso clássico...Vc é showwww..obrigada por tantas postagens ....abs
Thanks for your nice message, Rô !
thank you so much. You helped me a lot
You’re welcome, glad it helped 😊
Beautiful work!!!
Thank you, Tracy!!!
coming from The Evil Within gamer community B) thanks for the great setup, I usually play by ear but this helps me understand the sheet music too :D
Hi Gregory, glad it helped.
Very helpful. Thank you
Glad it helped. Thanks for writing!
wonderful tutorial!!
Thank you, Ted ;)
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Você me ajuda bastante. Muito obrigada!
You’re so welcome!
Thank you so much for this!❤❤❤❤
You're welcome, Sydney :)
TH-cam treasure. Thanks!
Thanks for your kind message!
nice job, you are truly an inspiration
thank you, Pepe. you just inspired me!
Great tutorial, Jane. But I sure wish there is a way you can show me how you use the pedals.
Pedaling is difficult to teach. Do you best by listening to the sounds you produce while trying different approaches. There are probably scores with pedal markings, and there are some lessons on YT.
Grazie per il tuo lavoro sei bravissima👌😀
You're welcome :)
Great resource. I made a tutorial video for this piece. You cover different things!
Thanks for writing.
Thanks jene
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You're welcome, Marco
Parabéns.
You’re welcome.
hi ms. Jane can you make a tutorial of Les Collines d'Anacapri , Debussy from prelude book 1 ? Thank you very much
Hi, your request will get lost here. Please post under my request video and see whether the piece gets votes.
so nice
thank you
Gracias!!!!!!
Welcome!!!!!!
thank you for this very helpful work... :-)
thanks for writing !
Thanks. Really thanks!
You're welcome! Thanks for writing :)
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Great tutorial... Are these the "correct" fingering positions ?
Fingering depends on hand structure, so you can imagine one editor's fingering won't suit everyone. I'll copy and paste a quote on my website:
"...Be especially careful to choose the fingering which best suits your hand and the phrasing of the passage. Good editions of music usually have sensible fingerings, but if there is any department of piano playing where you should follow your own judgment it is that of fingering. The best teachers will always tell you that. Even such fine editing as that of Rafael Joseffy should not be followed in its fingering unless you feel it suits you. In fact Joseffy had some strange fingering crotchets -- such as changing fingers on repeated notes even in molto adagio passages -- which few wish to follow..." Charles Cooke, _Playing the Piano for Pleasure_
@@janepianotutorials My piano teacher always stressed the importance of following the fingering of the original composer. But after I've mastered the piece, I would feel justified in modifying it to suit my hand style.
@@whale6144 Does your teacher know whether Debussy added fingering to his manuscript? Fingering is usually added by editors, whose hands differ greatly. That's why each edition has different fingering. Would be interesting to see Debussy's!
@@janepianotutorials I'm not sure what my teacher knew because I was just a child and did as I was instructed... But she sure acted like she knew, lol .
@@whale6144 :)
Hi Jane, would it be possible to angle the camera so that we can see the shadows of the keys a little more? because sometimes it's hard to see what keys yo are hitting
Hello Elkebir, this top view is the BEST angle. Many are imitating me now, instead of filming from the side. From the side, do you see how fingers near the front, cover the ones at the back? Anyway, you are not supposed to be looking under my fingers. Humans are born to imitate, so focus on my finger movement, not what they hide. Try it on the parts where you had trouble. Did it work?
Hi Jane ,
8:34 are you sure about F if it's played correctly ?
Or something I should learn more
Just realized what is correct, you play correctly and thanks for the video .
All the time I was playing it wrongly .
Glad you figured it out. The notation is confusing!
Hello Jane! I would like to ask a question. What tempo for a metronome would be best? Thanks.
For practicing?
@@janepianotutorials Yes
Need to set it to your competent pace. Experiment with 2 measures, then choose the tempo where you don’t make mistakes. After that, practice one short section at a time. Upon each repeat, tick it up 1bpm, you won’t even feel you’re going faster.
Thanks!
Hi Jane. I had a question.
I am learning this as a birthday gift to my sister. I have been going off your tutorial so so so much! Would it be possible for you to do another one like this but a little more speed and with all the dynamics? I want to make this special. I understand if you can’t but I thought I’d ask
Hi Jennifer, that is so special and sweet of you. To see it faster, please use the speed tool. The dynamics are printed on the score, but we have to add our own feelings. That’s the reason each concert artist’s recording sounds different. Listen to as many as you can, then use your own interpretation. Good luck and a Happy Birthday to your sister.
Thank you!!!!! I didn’t even realize I could speed it up! Thank you! I never even thought about adding my own feel to it. Thank you for replying. Her birthday is July 18 and I’m trying to learn it by then.
I looked through your videos and was wondering if you do any Rachmaninov?
Feeling is most important in music. Feeling comes from within, whereas technique can be trained. Re Rachmaninov tutorials, easiest is to use the search box on my website. Enter either Rachmaninov or Rachmaninoff.
Jane you have a website out side of TH-cam? And I guess I worded the feeling thing wrong I meant like you said playing my own interpretation. I guess I’m just really obsessed with getting it right because she’s my sister and I want it to be special.
My website link is in every video description or the end screen. It is full of information about the tutorials I made. It's free, no strings attached! Feeling is your own interpretation, but still has to follow the score -- what the composer intended :)
thanks
you're welcome
Okay, so my original comment seems to have disappeared (??!) but it was along the lines of Casper O'Hanes'. I justCOULD NOT feel the timing in this piece. BUT I managed to find a Metronome app for iPad which actually clicks on the first of the bar and (if you go looking in the options) gives you a voice which actually counts "2 3 4..."etc. in WORDS for you! Wow! what a difference that makes. Now I am actually making progress with this. So i'm going to big the metronome up here for fellow sufferers: it's called Soundbrenner. I don't work for them. BTW, they have just saved me hours of frustration 😁
Ah, a YT mystery... but I found your original comment and replied there :) Good luck finishing the piece!
In the first part, lower staff- second measure says natural g and a but plays it gb and a? Anyone who can help me, I'm not good at reading music sheets.
the natural symbol is lined up with the A. this key signature is harder to read -- only C and F are not flatted.
@@janepianotutorials oh yeah lol, thanksss i just now realized
The first two notes. You play F and Ab on the right side of middle C(C4), but in the sheet, isn't that Ab and Bass C(C3)? This could just be because I'm not that good at reading music, but when following this exact sheet music it always sounded wrong until I came to see what others were playing.
As I wrote in the description, I was using a different edition than the one shown here. Best to follow your edition, and only refer to mine when in doubt.
@@janepianotutorials What sheet music are you using? Given that this other one sounds off with the first note I have a hard time following because my ears expect something else.
@@amando96 Can you access imslp? it is the best site for classical music, and should have many editions available for download or view. I played from the book Debussy Album for Piano Solo published by Kalmus (it says " original version, unedited ")
I pulled out my book to compare, it looks the same as this version. Then I realized you missed seeing the treble clef at the beginning!
@@janepianotutorials That would do it! My newbie brain assumed a bass clef there :)
Hi jane , i recently been learning Clair de Lune but i don't understeand what "Andante tres expressif" means , whats the tempo ?
Google search the phrase. Result: "What does 'andante tres expressif' mean? "at an easy walking pace, and very expressive."
I have another question: around 14:17 in the score the left hand seems to span only 8 beats, whereas the right hand spans 9. So I'm guessing that the first two eigth notes in the left hand are to be interpreted as duplets. Is that correct? You seem to play it that way, too. There is a similar instance of this in bar 58.
That's how I treated it. Listen to artist recordings? I don't trust myself...
@@janepianotutorials Yeah, good advice.
@@SuperInternetuser let me know? thanks! :)
@@janepianotutorials Gieseking played it that way (th-cam.com/video/L9c31_Uuz5k/w-d-xo.html ) and the automated sound of musescore (th-cam.com/video/L9c31_Uuz5k/w-d-xo.html ) renders it like a duplet aswell, though the latter case is quite the mystery..
Thanks for checking. Mystery?
Hi miss Jane , in the bar 3 at 0:45 i don't now what's means the 2 over the notes, why the tap is silencied, sorry for my English i'm autodidacta
Note the time signature of 9/8. Each measure consists of 3 triplets. But in Bar 3, there are 2 notes instead of 3, that's why the 2 is printed. When there is a tie, the note is held and not played. My sight-reading lessons might help you.
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Damn this is useful
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Why is it at 7:57 I played the exact same thing and sounded the same while other covers sounded different for this part???
Different edition?
I have a question for you on the Chopin Opus 9 No 1. How exactly did you time out the triplets? (7ths, 22nds, etc) I'm finding it incredibly difficult.
when we get used to the notes and play fast, they'll fit. but theoretically? see my lessons on polyrhythms (see side menu of my website)
Jane Thank you!
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I slowed it down to .25 and am still struggling! :-)
perhaps learning 2-3 measures at a time would make it easier. good luck
Hi Jane, could you give us the online sheets for this piece? I think the link in your description isn't working.
Thanks for letting me know. I updated that link. Found it by Google searching "Suite bergamasque imslp"
Why do SO MANY pianists play 5:09 with the right hand starting later than the left? It's clearly shown in this sheet music at 5:09 and 5:28 to be both hands at the same time... TH-cam videos of Seong-Jin Cho, Lang Lang video 2:44, Kathia Buniatishvili video 2:05, all have an annoying delay.
Don’t know.
brilliant, again! Thanks
Again, Henry, thanks for your kind messages.
Hello. Is the only way to play this (left hand after switches to base line) using the pedal?
Yes, the sostenuto pedal (if your piano has one) and/or the sustaining pedal
I confuse, How come the flat symbol in bar 3 at min 3:35, it’s use “A minor” not G major for the flat symbol there? Sorry for the bad english but i really stuck in that part 🙏
Tommy Cendana That Ab serves to cancel the A natural earlier in the same measure (1st beat LH) . Glad you asked 😊
Jane thank you for the answer but i think i still confuse, after the A natural, it’s suposed to be normal scale again, but at flat symbols on left and right hand it’s not a normal scale, can you explain more details? I’m sorry for my problem 🙏 hope you can help bcs i don’t find in any source
And i think i have one more question again, if the Ab serves to cancel the A natural at the first beat for LH, is the right hand following the scale too? Sorry for the bad english 🙏
Yes, see the key signature? All A's have flats in this piece unless otherwise notated (as accidentals). Look at my tutorials on scales?
Tommy Cendana Sorry, do not understand your confusion. The scale doesn’t matter here. We play the notes as printed.
can someone help me out what do those "2" above the notes mean?
Also in the beginning what does this connection between F-A in the left hand and F-A in the right hand mean?
Those 2's indicate we are counting 2's instead of 3's as in most other parts. The connection means there is no break in the sound.
@@janepianotutorials thank you!
The fingering at 10:21 is really confusing for me, is it the optimal way to play it or is playing it a way that's non straining for me better?
darksouls45688 We always adjust fingering to suit our hands. check for other editions with fingering on imslp? If none, experiment and pencil in fingering that you find comfortable. Good luck
Alright thanks for the quick reply and help! :D have a good rest of your day/night.
Hello jene. Can you write you fingers in this score please? Thanks very much
Do you know how many hours and days and weeks that would take? Try the first line yourself and see. There is no need to write down all the fingering. Try imitation instead: a short section at a time. keep repeating until you get it.
What a mission...
hadn't thought of it that way :)
Hi Jane
Hi Yuri
@@janepianotutorials I am to play to the music
@@YuriAchilles excellent :)
Jane, is it possible to play it when you are complete beginer?
Yes, for example, my scholarship winners started with intermediate, even advanced, pieces. They used synthesia combined with my tutorials for fingering reference. Humans are born to imitate, countless who play by ear can imitate me, then memorize short sections at a time. How about experimenting with a short section to test yourself? Should be interesting. Please know I do not recommend this approach. It's ok once in a while. But every piece is back to square one. The correct way is to learn to read music (use my unconventional sight-reading lessons), study proper posture, practice scales and arpeggios, build a solid foundation. If you can afford a private teacher, that's the way to go.