Never ignore Native wisdom

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  • @lukewiencek7798
    @lukewiencek7798 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14729

    My brother passed away today. Mr Ballen he loved your videos. He battled a drug addiction for years and he was doing good…your videos brought him peace of mind which he rarely ever had. He struggled for so long. And thank you for doing what you do man. Watching this one for him. Sorry if this is depressing…you made him incredibly happy thank you.
    Wow. Thank all of you for the comments. No this isn’t fake lol…I usually never even comment on TH-cam videos. And yes beef I guess that is weird. What’s more weird is the approach you took to call me out on that. I didn’t hold my brother dying in my arms and pull out my phone and comment on a TH-cam post. Hence if you read what I said I said today..not right now. Not ten minutes ago. Not last month like you said. But today. And people grieve differently. But I pray for you as well homie to deeper peace and happiness as you may not have that yet. And to anyone who thought this was weird or inappropriate. I apologize. We both knocked out watching mr Ballen and at the end of the day. It wasn’t for anyone but Mr Ballen to know his content can truly help people out. Again thank you everyone 🙏❤️. Anyone who battles this or knows someone who battles this I will keep you in my thoughts and pray for you as well! You got this. They got this. Crazy how negative some can be in a comment section. True Mr Ballen may have never seen it for the 20 people hating but 6 thousand people did and 590 of those people understand. Thank you everyone for your thoughts and prayers

    • @stargraze
      @stargraze 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +678

      I'm so sorry for your loss

    • @rothed16
      @rothed16 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +501

      Sorry about your brother. Pretty cool to watch this for him. Rip brother and hope your family have a nice funeral for him.

    • @kathymcmc
      @kathymcmc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +285

      Very sorry for your loss.

    • @ashleylezandro6950
      @ashleylezandro6950 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +282

      I am so sorry for your loss 😢 my bro passed 2021 , I understand ❤

    • @Gdub33
      @Gdub33 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +365

      Man, I'm so sorry! Drug addiction happens to good people. I like to consider myself a good person and I went down that road. Thankfully I was lucky enough to receive the help I needed. I'm sure your brother had a great and caring heart!
      If you need someone to talk, I'm here. I've lost 3 immediate members to addiction. It never starts to feel okay, but you will learn to deal with time. RIP to your brother. 🙏

  • @ShaunCollege
    @ShaunCollege 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3761

    Anytime there’s a warning in a story…you know it’s gonna be ignored

    • @thehousespouse
      @thehousespouse 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

      Otherwise it would be a much shorter and not as interesting story.

    • @gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298
      @gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      Just like in horror movies, when they know better than to go outside by themselves, or open the dang door.

    • @Mark-cd3vd
      @Mark-cd3vd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      same as in the movies when politicians get warned in natural dissaters......they never listen...lol

    • @carliecole2563
      @carliecole2563 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      And thank thank GODzilla for that stupidity; or else these stories wouldn't be a fraction as fun to listen to!? 😊

    • @carliecole2563
      @carliecole2563 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      ​@@gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298or, my favorite:
      "I'll Be right back!!"
      No... No, you will NEVER be back 😁

  • @rachelengel6668
    @rachelengel6668 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1704

    One thing about this story that I love is Chief Ouray. He was trying to save these men in 1874, this was right after the government had promised to keep miners off his tribes territory. The federal government never once kept that promise. Chief Ouray complained about the miners in 1872 and he had continuous renegotiations over tribal land, which ended up basically reducing their land significantly and their land rights for a small amount of money because the government threatened war if they didn’t agree. All of this and he still just wanted to see those men live. He was an incredible person who saw value in human life. Every human life.

    • @boudicaastorm4540
      @boudicaastorm4540 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +180

      I think that's one of the things that makes the stealing of their land even more tragic- there are a lot of stories like this about Native people who were selfless and helpful to lost white people. Because they respected life. It's a shame the proponents of "manifest destiny" didn't feel the same way.

    • @sarahr3747
      @sarahr3747 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      I agree with you about the “good” natives but it’s an oversimplification. Tribes in the US were few and far between, relatively. And there were many warring tribes that decimated one another. There were also very brutal and cannibalistic tribes who performed human sacrifice. The natives were here for perhaps several millennia but they never advanced or flourished. As the world’s population grew at some point North America, being so vast, was going to need to accommodate people who were part of growing societies. I disagree on the whole with our government never keeping its word and that continues to this day, and our government has perpetrated some heinous crimes and still to this day is extremely corrupt. But so is every government- the nature of centralized power is that it follows a path of corruption. But the glazed over story of the poor natives is not very realistic, tbh.

    • @cherrymetha3185
      @cherrymetha3185 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They invaded his country , made laws to suit them and stole his land

    • @rachelengel6668
      @rachelengel6668 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      @@sarahr3747 it’s funny, no one calls the holocaust a glazed over poor Jew history and yet there was a holocaust on our own soil and it’s the glazed over poor native history. Perhaps you don’t understand what a holocaust is or perhaps you don’t understand the history of the US. If you fully understand both and still call it a glazed over poor native history then I think only a psychotherapist can help you.

    • @ranran8934
      @ranran8934 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@sarahr3747You are lowkey racist here

  • @AthamAldecua
    @AthamAldecua 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +156

    Man, if a native American is giving me instructions while in the wilderness, you bet your ass I'm going to freaking listen 🤣

    • @ReplicatorFifth
      @ReplicatorFifth 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Especially a Native American that just saved my sorry ass before that.

  • @lucax2300
    @lucax2300 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6049

    Me, I personally wouldn't disregard the warnings of native inhabitants who know the natural surroundings well, anywhere. That's so many generations of human experience, regardless of what you believe in.

    • @lotstodo
      @lotstodo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +136

      There are some who say it's dangerous to even speak of these things.

    • @Likelyfairy
      @Likelyfairy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +288

      Exactly, they literally lived here for 100s of years undisturbed. If anyone knows anything’s it’s them

    • @lindisamathabela3192
      @lindisamathabela3192 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Too true

    • @lesliestark5778
      @lesliestark5778 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      right?

    • @ChrundleTGreat
      @ChrundleTGreat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

      Common sense wasn’t common yet in those days. 😂

  • @jeu3942
    @jeu3942 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2294

    Side note if you ever find someone who is starving or dehydrated to almost death, do not give them lots of fluid or food. They will puke it up and do more damage to themselves. Small sips and small bites.

    • @angelamurphy6233
      @angelamurphy6233 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +202

      As having suffered from this, I can verify. Tiny sips. They will want to drink more, but don't let them. The puking part REALLY sucks.

    • @deneilbaker
      @deneilbaker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +108

      Same with anorexics. I’ve also heard they give them pop tarts in the hospital because they’re so fattening lol. I love pop tarts

    • @Anarchristian_Beanz
      @Anarchristian_Beanz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

      ​@@deneilbakerthat explains why I was a fat child

    • @kimkelly3075
      @kimkelly3075 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      Exactly like refeeding starved horses, dogs and other animals

    • @MalevEvans-dw3do
      @MalevEvans-dw3do 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      A little but of arm won't do them any harm

  • @KingAlobar21
    @KingAlobar21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +175

    Shout out to Chief Ouray and his wife, Chipeta. I live in western Colorado where they are still legendary figures.

    • @mryoy1263
      @mryoy1263 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Ouray colorado is a gorgeous little town, I had the pleasure of visiting a few summers back. Idk if it was named after him or not.

    • @potnoogle5780
      @potnoogle5780 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, your ancestors put them in the museum. Now it's just a legend.

  • @ZestySp1cee
    @ZestySp1cee 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +539

    I’m half Ojibwa, my family takes ‘legends’ seriously.
    We never whistle at night or while the moon is out, and we never wander around at night alone after dark. But that seems like common sense to me. 😅

    • @4uaudios141
      @4uaudios141 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I’m Ojibwa too! Hi :)

    • @AnthonyBanks-ix4hg
      @AnthonyBanks-ix4hg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      That's a new one I haven't heard yet; I'm from multiple like the blackfoot, cherokee etc

    • @sat-one
      @sat-one 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Cree people In the north say don't whistle at the northern lights. I never heard of the other things you mentioned.

    • @harrykoyl3784
      @harrykoyl3784 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      I'm half Hawaiian, and was told the same thing! Forgot one night, whistled probably 3 notes, before my grandmother almost smacked my head off...! 😮

    • @SuperGoose42
      @SuperGoose42 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Why aren't you supposed to whistle at night or under the moon, if you don't mind me asking?

  • @BJ-ij4dm
    @BJ-ij4dm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2625

    Not gonna lie Alfred was one of the biggest plot twist ever 😮

    • @user-rf2fg5nc7r
      @user-rf2fg5nc7r 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +320

      He crossed my mind because the way Mr. Ballen described the relationship between Alferd and Isreal, I couldn't see Isreal abandoning him....

    • @delgriffith7949
      @delgriffith7949 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      I thought it was Chief

    • @user-rf2fg5nc7r
      @user-rf2fg5nc7r 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +181

      @delgriffith7949 I don't know. Chief knew the weather so I don't think he would have put his men in jeopardy. Maybe Alferd was a cannibal all along which is why he suggested that they leave..lol

    • @cintaminbunny
      @cintaminbunny 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      Wasn't surprised actually

    • @TheOne30264
      @TheOne30264 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      I was hoping it was big foot.

  • @RocketDraco47
    @RocketDraco47 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1992

    I love how you add the “not real photo” or “real photo” it’s such a small detail but really appreciated 🙏

    • @TheSleepy1326
      @TheSleepy1326 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      And I love how those incredibly small details are “really appreciated” by you 🙃

    • @AlyssaD-mr2cl
      @AlyssaD-mr2cl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      It makes me laugh because sometimes we know it’s obviously not a real photo but he puts it anyway 😂

    • @bandywallop
      @bandywallop 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Wait until you hear the sound effects he ads

    • @anonygrazer3234
      @anonygrazer3234 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ...as sooo many _DO_ exactly that....fake or unrelated pics scattered everywhere like bird droppings.

    • @mediumsurmoon6283
      @mediumsurmoon6283 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Most of the more contextually cinematic looking ones are AI generated btw

  • @alexpriedite1447
    @alexpriedite1447 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +161

    To the man who’s brother was an addict and passed away: god bless you and him. Your love kept him alive. It’s so hard. No one understands it. Everyone looks down on it. No one tries to care- they just judge. It hurts. It’s so painful. Most people who become addicts become that way from pain and trauma and an inability to cope in healthy/normal ways. I know i didn’t- I was never shown. I was abused.
    It’s been a challenge in my life. Having the support of someone who loves you- is life changing. Mine ever got it. And it traumatized me. I am clean now, but that pain and loneliness lingers. I am trying to heal myself. It’s so good that you care that much. Thank you. Thank you for loving him so much anyway. ❤️

    • @susanhilton3436
      @susanhilton3436 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bless you hope you are doing well now

    • @user-yf3mh3zu5y
      @user-yf3mh3zu5y 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I'm an addict 20 years clean for 1 year love always x❤❤❤❤

    • @joeyfung-i
      @joeyfung-i หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-yf3mh3zu5y would love to see a 2 year update. Stay strong and MUCH respect! ✊

    • @maryam.ferenc
      @maryam.ferenc หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I do....I understand.... And I'll think about you both when I pray under the stars.
      Lots of people say we're renewed and more beautiful in spirit than we ever were in physical form. This life is for trials, tribulations, lessons, and tests... It was never meant to be anything more
      .. So keep doing your best, every day, and know that we all get to finish our final exams one day. See you on this side or the other brother. Love from you sister, Rebecka. Bless you. May your heart be at peace and you have many good sons and daughters. Amen.

    • @obi-juan-ya-knowme1948
      @obi-juan-ya-knowme1948 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Not giving up and leaning on God including your loved ones will carry you towards your goal. I'm happy to hear you are doing great. 😊

  • @Smonkyyy
    @Smonkyyy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +201

    MrBallen would be a 10/10 Dungeon Master, dude is so animated and full of life while being mysterious. Really knows how to set a scene too. I know he’s got written stories already he’s reading off of, but he clearly is free-balling a lot of his speech and it’s really impressive

    • @RachelleBeyer
      @RachelleBeyer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I’ve thought the same thing before!

    • @zionebberson1027
      @zionebberson1027 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Haha…. Free ballin… I see what u did there

    • @chatters190
      @chatters190 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you nerd

  • @hollyrae313
    @hollyrae313 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +326

    "He was able to make fires at night... and eat his friends" was not something I expected to hear today.

    • @zachkleinschmidt3689
      @zachkleinschmidt3689 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Man I gotta stop reading comments in the middle of the video lmao

    • @krystyna_mari
      @krystyna_mari 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@zachkleinschmidt3689same 😭😭

    • @planetclownfishbrain7052
      @planetclownfishbrain7052 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was because of climate change.

    • @SweetPollyPureblood
      @SweetPollyPureblood 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Oh damn. A spoiler. That'll teach me to read comments before the video is done.

    • @lolineko2083
      @lolineko2083 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      He probably got mad about being abandoned and used it as justification for what he did.

  • @dtaylor10chuckufarle
    @dtaylor10chuckufarle 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2052

    Can we all just take a moment to appreciate Mr. Ballen for going out to the San Juan Mountains in the dead of winter to tell this story? It's not fit for man nor beast out there.

    • @scoper7897
      @scoper7897 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What are you talking about kid?? Are u ok???? He didnt go anywhere. Hes home telling the story from his couch. Ur delussional. Outrageous comment. U musr touch grass

    • @rannnoch
      @rannnoch 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      what about a beastman

    • @TheLordSatan
      @TheLordSatan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I saw this in my recommended and got chills.. meaning my brain loves this guy lol. But him doing a video like this sounds like eargasms ≈__≈

    • @Popevangel83
      @Popevangel83 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      He's navy seal. I'm sure he'll be alright

    • @meganleslie9069
      @meganleslie9069 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Ballen IS a beast

  • @jennifershepherd2145
    @jennifershepherd2145 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Don't drink alcohol to warm up. It brings your blood away from your organs, giving the illusion of warmth while it freezes you. That, and it doesn't last. You'll be colder than you were to start.

  • @alycegoodale3059
    @alycegoodale3059 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    My mom passed away on Thursday...I live RIGHT on the Navajo reservation. I love @mrballen cuz he is a Navy Seal and I'm USAF Intel. My grandfather was a full bird Colonel, my other grandfather FBI, my dad USAF. Military runs strong in my family...native Americans know things that don't seem real to everyone else...

    • @Aza-em8ol
      @Aza-em8ol 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So sorry for your loss. I lost my mother almost 14 years ago. And it sent me on a downward spiral. I didn't have anyone else to lean on. I wish you the best of luck. And I hope you have your father or someone to lean on in this difficult situation.

  • @ncgx2655
    @ncgx2655 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2050

    Am I the only one that stands on guard ready for the weekly upload? Nothing shall interrupt 🤣 thank you mrballen yet again for another brilliant video!

    • @Pumpkin_the_protogen
      @Pumpkin_the_protogen 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      I do too, I refreshed at the perfect time!

    • @cameroncook8398
      @cameroncook8398 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      sameeeee i make sure i get my break on sundays at 2:55 no matter what since he posts at 3 for me

    • @aluthebhaja7528
      @aluthebhaja7528 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@cameroncook8398 pm or am? It's 3 am in my country

    • @Htsht-xg3cr
      @Htsht-xg3cr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Frrr

    • @tonibeg3494
      @tonibeg3494 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Here is 10pm. Just in time for Mr Ballen story before bed😊

  • @conrradotorres4653
    @conrradotorres4653 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1192

    *Native advice while in the woods at night:*
    If you ever hear the voice of a loved one call you out or you hear a whistle. DO NOT respond or whistle back, leave immediately.

    • @ChrisSV98
      @ChrisSV98 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Why?

    • @tsjidhwidj
      @tsjidhwidj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +203

      ​@@ChrisSV98isn't that just common sense? Why would we hear whistles and voices of the people we know in the middle of the woods

    • @abhiyaraman20
      @abhiyaraman20 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +147

      @@ChrisSV98more like forest spirits or skin walkers kind of entities do that. Some say witches too, it’s all stories n people still believe

    • @Marlaina
      @Marlaina 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      Chills when reading this!

    • @mishaanton5436
      @mishaanton5436 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I never have. Thank god, probably die of fright. Many times bush camping and in wilderness. Protected by yah. Pretty interesting days alone. At night. Next to the fire untill 3AM. Bears, oh my. Bears? Ya... no to well traveled ppl places. Most afraid I've ever been as one showed up every night wrecking havoc. That was a large group a dozen r so, in large area. I still did me...walks w a buddy till 3AM. Ask for short story why and you'll get very shirt but impact full (maybe?) answer.

  • @shanerobinson5627
    @shanerobinson5627 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    My little sister passed away last Wednesday, she was only 29. I’m having such a hard time and don’t even know how to process these overwhelming feelings. I’m sitting in parking waiting to go in to my baby sister’s wake and then funeral tomorrow morning. 😢 I have always watched Mr. Ballen but now I find myself binge watching because his voice gives me some peace.
    Ok I got through the wake now just the funeral tomorrow ahhhh

    • @primovid
      @primovid หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Very sad. She *is* in a better place and she is just fine. Trust me.

    • @seyieneituokiso904
      @seyieneituokiso904 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Life goes on Robison. Remember her mourn for her but know when to move on so her soul can be in peace.

  • @vindictussuccubus8302
    @vindictussuccubus8302 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Us natives would say he was a wendigo or under the influence of one. Our elders told us that during the winter it's best to stay put and close to home, never go wandering into the forest for you'll fall victim to a wendigo, once human but has an appetite for human flesh, often depicted as a rotten half deer half human. I liked to believe that the deer was a sign of Alfred's deeds and what he had become. He should've listened to the warning his elder had given him.

  • @Flight420
    @Flight420 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1749

    As a Native American I absolutely fully approve the title of this video & I would also reiterate "Never ignore native wisdom".
    Another banger Mr Ballen well done brother.👍🏻👌🏻🙏🏻

    • @listey
      @listey 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      But how do we differentiate the "wisdom" from the BS?

    • @Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman
      @Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

      ​@@listey critical thinking

    • @Shock_Treatment
      @Shock_Treatment 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not all Indians are wise, though, and not all wise people are Indians. The locals of any place will obviously know that place better than foreigners.

    • @KStew9010
      @KStew9010 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      ​@@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman
      Well said 💯

    • @kelliewhyte_85
      @kelliewhyte_85 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      Full respect to you.
      I fully respect the Native American way of life and how spiritual and one with nature they are.

  • @shpgrl1026
    @shpgrl1026 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +776

    My jaw literally dropped when he said who it was that had killed the men. Wow. Crazy story.

    • @saras123
      @saras123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Oh really? I just said it was Alferd, its always alferd!

    • @mArkP-iv4bx
      @mArkP-iv4bx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Well really what started the killing butchery and cannibalism was when Schwaan was doing his Let's build a snowman song and dance again to try to cheer up his companions but then Israel took the butchers revolver and shot Schwaan in the head. Then they were all sitting around the fire talking about eating their shoes when it was suggested to eat Schwaan. They all ate him except Israel. Then it all quickly snowballed after that

    • @joeyblogsy
      @joeyblogsy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mArkP-iv4bxhuh?

    • @Killjoyfiend
      @Killjoyfiend 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      ​@@saras123 "dog-nabbit, Alferd! What'd I tell you about eatin your friends?"

    • @desperadox7565
      @desperadox7565 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      But that was quite obvious, wasn't it?

  • @enigma51ted
    @enigma51ted 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    As a owner of Minnesota forest land near the canadian border, I was listening intently alert to every single word of this adventure!!!!! WOW Massivly entertaining!

  • @sheridangardner2497
    @sheridangardner2497 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I literally live in Western Colorado by the San Juan mountains. Chief Ouray is a big deal around here. You should never ignore warnings for superstitions about an area from a native American. They’ve been here so much longer than we have and they know what’s up.

  • @btsforever7618
    @btsforever7618 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +820

    As a Native Indian we learned from our elders as kids to listen to them

    • @sidstevens9035
      @sidstevens9035 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Every human being has an instinct to learn from their parents !
      Why do you believe it's something unique to Indians ?

    • @abhiyaraman20
      @abhiyaraman20 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      @@sidstevens9035why are u getting burned for that??? Indians n tribals across world are more connected to forest, earth elements n rituals often termed as “wrong” by so called religious fanatics.

    • @nunya5424
      @nunya5424 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      ​@@abhiyaraman20I mean hes right. It is pretty goofy when people assume things are unique to them. As a white person my dad impregnated my mom, idk if yall normies had that.

    • @CyberMachine
      @CyberMachine 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      @@nunya5424 No he's not right. There's cultures that respect their elders more than others. NDN and Asian seem to top that list.

    • @mikewilhelmson8413
      @mikewilhelmson8413 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Yes. So do all other humans. And animals.

  • @riss2940
    @riss2940 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1251

    I love this! My great grandmother (Sunshine Cloud,) was Chief Ouray’s granddaughter. Most of my family (maternal cousins/aunts/etc,) live in the Southern Ute reservation ☺️. I’m super proud of my heritage and hearing new things surrounding the Southern Utes and my family makes me excited!

    • @Psichotica7
      @Psichotica7 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

      Wow, that's very precious. Your great great great grandfather Chief Ouray sounded like a very generous and wise man from this story.

    • @planetclownfishbrain7052
      @planetclownfishbrain7052 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Mine too.

    • @crayrayc
      @crayrayc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      blessings, i would love to meet you

    • @aimeewank7859
      @aimeewank7859 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Awesome 🤩 I’ve recently become super fascinated with Native American culture. However, I struggle with wanting to ask questions (not personal, just in general about history, spiritual beliefs and way of life) but I’m too afraid of offending someone. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks friend ✌🏽💕🙏🏼 - Pittsburgh PA USA

    • @katej23
      @katej23 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Sunshine Cloud is a beautiful name!

  • @gabrielboorom2683
    @gabrielboorom2683 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Our oldest gift our ancestors left us when we were born is our instinct, our "gut feeling", when we can sense something is wrong before even knowing what it is. Never ignore it. Do what it tells you. Those who do ignore it may not survive. If you're wrong, you can laugh about it later ...but if you're right, you might learn just how narrowly you escaped death or things worse than death.

  • @earthearth3189
    @earthearth3189 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Can't believe it's already been 2 years since I have been following this channel! Thank you for these amazing stories, which substituted for my boredom and anxiety...

  • @Video81501
    @Video81501 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +510

    Growing up in western Colorado, we all know this story, but nobody tells it better than Mr. Ballen. Great job in using the plot twist at the end.

    • @mravocadomanandmrraisin9187
      @mravocadomanandmrraisin9187 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I think "Cannibal! The Musical!" Is also a really good retelling

    • @FuriosaSonoran
      @FuriosaSonoran 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I used to ice climb in Ouray...
      Spent time in Norwood.
      It's definitely no joke, but was some of my best (20+ in total) years in CO.

    • @mikeydubbs8565
      @mikeydubbs8565 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@mravocadomanandmrraisin9187 “You lookin’ at my eye?!”

    • @Otherworldly2003
      @Otherworldly2003 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Best storytelling for any story: Mr. Ballen❗️🤩🙌🏾🎖️

    • @britty23
      @britty23 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@mravocadomanandmrraisin9187 "the sky is blue, and all the leaves are green! My hearts as full as a baked potato!"

  • @TripleDCrook
    @TripleDCrook 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +469

    @MrBallen I’m in the hospital after getting my leg amputated below the knee. Watching your videos has really helped distract me and pass the time. Thanks John!

    • @brendabaldino8857
      @brendabaldino8857 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      I'm so sorry. I hope you are ok

    • @eddysgaming9868
      @eddysgaming9868 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      I'm sorry to hear that. Hope your recovery and rehabilitation goes well.

    • @moirarussell1950
      @moirarussell1950 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Crap dude!! Hope they’re treating you good. ❤️🇨🇦

    • @sherrylawrencelewis2544
      @sherrylawrencelewis2544 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Aaahhhh, man! So sorry hun! Sending you much love and future comfort! 🇬🇧❤️🕊❤️🇬🇧

    • @Replicanna-rl6zg
      @Replicanna-rl6zg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Oh dear, wishing well, that truly sucks

  • @user-wg8we4yz4j
    @user-wg8we4yz4j 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Listen to the native Americans and their wisdom is beyond the best philosophies of all time, so being part Choctaw i can tell you that native Americans are born with spiritual influences of nature. ❤Thankyou

  • @bobbydellinger4906
    @bobbydellinger4906 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Fun fact, the University of Colorado at boulder allowed the student body to name the new cafeteria when it was built. What name did they chose? Alferd Packer Grill💀

  • @victoryak86
    @victoryak86 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +500

    Best story teller on the internet and a super nice guy as well. Even the Like button still likes him after the years of abuse!

    • @Zyryne1
      @Zyryne1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      And horrific, deathly attacks. The like button is a fool. 😊❤

    • @saywhattt82
      @saywhattt82 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      😂 I’m always saying, what did the like button do to Mr. Ballen for all that hate given to it ? 😅

    • @rosechoix
      @rosechoix 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It's called trauma bonding, lol

    • @mobucks555
      @mobucks555 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My mom is so old I told her I wanted to join the union and she said I should join the confederates instead.
      -W.M.

    • @suefantastic4584
      @suefantastic4584 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I love John Mc Ballen.. he can save me any day.. xo

  • @jcryer4357
    @jcryer4357 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +632

    As a western Colorado native, I grew up hearing this story as part of local lore and legend.

    • @dawnrasmussen4931
      @dawnrasmussen4931 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ❤❤❤a

    • @TonyTheClitSnippingTigar
      @TonyTheClitSnippingTigar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dawnrasmussen4931pipe down Dawn 🔇🪈👇

    • @SordidusFellatio
      @SordidusFellatio 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How does it feel to have an entire official annual holiday that are widely celebrated by the whole country, that are dedicated to and was stemmed from celebrating the massacre of your people.

    • @Zaanisalive
      @Zaanisalive 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SordidusFellatioim guessing not great but the ones who massacred them probably made them think like they shouldnt care

    • @TonyTheClitSnippingTigar
      @TonyTheClitSnippingTigar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SordidusFellatio I didn’t know she was my cousin 🤷‍♂️ 💦

  • @aegontargaryen9322
    @aegontargaryen9322 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I can’t reply to Luke’s post about his poor brother so I will say here I’m so very sorry for your loss my friend . Addictions are pure hell to live with , at least he is at peace now . Take care and god bless

  • @amandawaters1143
    @amandawaters1143 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'm so sorry for your loss... Prayers sweetheart

  • @ScarabD
    @ScarabD 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +363

    Gotta appreciate the artists who use their skills to capture moments like this, even at risk to their own health and sanity, because they know it’s important… back then it was probably the only way to have any real visual evidence of what was happening

    • @WangMingGe
      @WangMingGe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Reminds me of the sketchbook sequences in Red Dead Redemption 2. I wonder if the developers included it based on history like this.

    • @tdarkhorse4
      @tdarkhorse4 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      flash photography wasn't invented until 1899, 25 years after this story happened. probably not commercially viable or available to police for several years after that. so yeah sketching a scene was literally the only way to capture visual evidence.

    • @FallenAngel9979
      @FallenAngel9979 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WangMingGeBest game EVER!!

    • @Irish_Georgia_Girl
      @Irish_Georgia_Girl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Amen

    • @ScarabD
      @ScarabD 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      More than likely! That game certainly did an impressive amount of research from what I heat@@WangMingGe

  • @ofentsefefe04
    @ofentsefefe04 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +485

    I wasn’t expecting this plot twist. After that native man warned them about leaving too soon or going up the mountain, I thought there were monsters up there waiting to kill them and for them to go missing without any trace only for Alferd to be that monster😅. Just wow!

    • @JoJo-dv1rz
      @JoJo-dv1rz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      I wonder if the native man sensed something off about Alferd and that's why he tried to warn them not to go with him.

    • @OriginalContent89
      @OriginalContent89 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Same! I thought this was going to be a skinwalker story

    • @Ghostfriend7100
      @Ghostfriend7100 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      I had a feeling human jerky was involved but figured another, more dangerous group lived on the mountains. But once Alferd showed up months later, I knew it was jerky time. Then when we were told he was even abandoned by his friend, I just felt like he retaliated. Now we don't know if he was actually abandoned or if he just turned on them one night, but I knew he killed them.

    • @test1122lol
      @test1122lol 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      How did you expect him to survive months eating nothing but snow lol, he didn't have a bow to hunt, that's what made me realize something is off

    • @brittanyholtgreven4106
      @brittanyholtgreven4106 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I thought it obvious who the bad guy was about 10 minutes in when explained that the name Alferd was embarrassing for him and yet Mr Ballen continued to reference him by that name

  • @DomHamilton-wu3fw
    @DomHamilton-wu3fw 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm sorry for your loss and your brother loosing his battle happy you have the memory of enjoying Mr Ballin together

  • @robman10007
    @robman10007 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Sir may God bless your heart and keep your brother close in his embrace. ❤

  • @blanquiat
    @blanquiat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +150

    My father just passed away and these are helping me keep my mind in a better space. Thank you MrBallen!

    • @judywood9570
      @judywood9570 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I'm so sorry for your loss. Sincerest condolences to you and your family.

    • @Broncofan52
      @Broncofan52 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Sorry for your loss. Hhang in there, it will get easier in time.

    • @lotstodo
      @lotstodo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      My sympathy for your loss. I just lost my Aunt, she made it to 101 and was sharp as a tack. Last of that generation in my family. Take care.

    • @MrBallen
      @MrBallen  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      I’m so sorry ❤

    • @heartofdixie1031
      @heartofdixie1031 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Sorry for your loss, praying for you and your family 🙏❤️

  • @IRONLEGIO
    @IRONLEGIO 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +568

    Alfred actually later admitted that he didn’t actually get left behind, he actually just killed and robbed all the men, ate them and after leaving the outpost he was caught living extremely lavishly on the money he stole from the men, he also wasn’t a prospector but actually a man that faked being a guide, and was hired by the prospectors to take them through the mountains, but he actually had no knowledge of the area, he basically just took them out to murder and rob them

    • @nightsky.94
      @nightsky.94 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      yea he told that version of the story few months ago or more

    • @WangMingGe
      @WangMingGe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

      Alfred had that Wendigo psychosis....

    • @smuleplayz
      @smuleplayz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The dumbass got caught using money out of four separate wallets at a bar in Lake City. I went to the site

    • @thelogicaldanger
      @thelogicaldanger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      @@nightsky.94 I would have sworn I'd already heard Ballen cover this story before.

    • @jaimeoconnor2883
      @jaimeoconnor2883 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Thx for this info... I was actually feeling pretty bad for him having been convicted seeing as he was just trying to survive lol

  • @mang-ganern
    @mang-ganern 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So nice of you collaborating with Bedtime stories! One of the most underrated channels! Thanks!

  • @mariahunter1784
    @mariahunter1784 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Absolutely loved this story. Love from Ireland 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

    • @sammykane5967
      @sammykane5967 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'm from Ireland too and if you liked this story then you'll love the film based off it. It's called Ravenous and it's starring guy Pearce. Super good watch and highly underrated

    • @mariahunter1784
      @mariahunter1784 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sammykane5967 aw thanks so much Sammy. My mum's maiden name was Kane 😃 great aul Irish surname

  • @NickSoivilien-vz6oj
    @NickSoivilien-vz6oj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +638

    Hello Mr. Allen,
    I’m a 43 year school teacher. I just wanted to say your storytelling abilities are amazing.
    After years of YouTubing, your channel is the first and only channel I have ever subscribed to.
    Thank you for providing me so much entertainment.

    • @Stroopwaffe1
      @Stroopwaffe1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Mr Ballen Sir.

    • @Cons2911
      @Cons2911 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Right? When I first saw one of his videos, not only is the story interesting but the way he tells it.. and I can’t even pinpoint why or what’s the difference but he has a knack for it

    • @Greentooth13
      @Greentooth13 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Liar, you're subscribed to burger youtube channel

    • @davemanthei5169
      @davemanthei5169 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Brah

    • @rikaleblancz4032
      @rikaleblancz4032 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      if i were a youtuber and i got this comment i'd freaking bawwlll

  • @cassandrarocha7369
    @cassandrarocha7369 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +201

    I can’t explain how much I love Mr. Ballen’s story telling skills. The plot twist was amazing.

    • @stormeb6230
      @stormeb6230 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ❤❤❤

    • @michkaadan5045
      @michkaadan5045 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same...my FAVOURITE youtuber

  • @davedonovan9648
    @davedonovan9648 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Holy Cow! Mr Ballen doing a story about Chief Ouray is awesome! I have family is the little mountain town of Ouray Colorado, and it's cool whenever I see them getting some recognition

  • @user-ff6wh6qr9k
    @user-ff6wh6qr9k 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I hope you're brother Rip ❤❤ an sorry for your loss.That was sweet what you did😢

  • @Hey_its_Koda
    @Hey_its_Koda 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +226

    This awesome. I gotta tell my nephew this story. Hes half Ute and Navajo. His dad named him Ouray. Now i know where he got his name. Snows are harsh here in colorado. I live 45 minutes from Grandby. Once it snows its hazard after hazard.

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Hooray for Ouray!

    • @Hey_its_Koda
      @Hey_its_Koda 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@The_ZeroLineright. 😂

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Hey_its_Koda His name also makes me think of the Marine chant.

    • @user-ql1kn8yw1u
      @user-ql1kn8yw1u 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The making of a wendigo

  • @mercury-king
    @mercury-king 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +112

    colorado native here! i have been to the site of the incident … it’s pretty chilling. thanks for covering the story, it’s a great telling of it!

    • @DS-lk3tx
      @DS-lk3tx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Anime pfp. 😂😂

    • @Theclashboy
      @Theclashboy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So?​@@DS-lk3tx

  • @gazof-the-north5708
    @gazof-the-north5708 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You Sir, are an AMAZING Story Teller. Thanks 👍

  • @mistakesweremade6771
    @mistakesweremade6771 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the last i saw ur video was in 2021 and till this day all those stories resonates so well and the way u told it made me come back .....

  • @robbieprice3196
    @robbieprice3196 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +238

    The reason people enjoy your content is not only because your a great story teller but also a good person who finds enjoyment in helping others. Thanks for being you pal

  • @Kneon_Knight
    @Kneon_Knight 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +185

    For a few years in Colorado (mid-1990s to early -2000s) "Alferd Packer's Jerky" was a common snack item at gas stations and convenience stores. You had to search the package for some very fine print to find out it was actually beef jerky, and it became a morbid gag to pull on out of state tourists to subtly imply that it might be human jerky. This was especially common in small tourist towns like Cripple Creek and Victor, Leadville and Silverton.

    • @angusmcnay5449
      @angusmcnay5449 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      As if Rocky Mountain oysters weren't enough of a morbid gag

    • @angelamurphy6233
      @angelamurphy6233 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Lmfao

    • @Anarchristian_Beanz
      @Anarchristian_Beanz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@angusmcnay5449my grandpa lived in CO and pulled that gag on me when I was young. He expected me to be grossed out but seeing as I ate one and they were good, I wasn't thrown at all. We liked to prank each other and I liked be able to throw that one back I his face.
      "Son, do you know what those are?"
      "Oysters?"
      "What kind of oysters grow in the mountains?"
      "Mountain lake oysters?"
      "Son... those are bull balls"

    • @samigreytak977
      @samigreytak977 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      And there’s the Packer Grill in the CU Boulder dining hall

    • @seanrogers7073
      @seanrogers7073 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Awesome! I'm a Montana expat living in Maryland. I miss the sense of humor that we have in the Rocky Mountain West.

  • @d.j.s.1774
    @d.j.s.1774 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you so much Mr.Ballen, for that reminder on how important maintaining mental health really is. Also, GOD BLESS YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY!!! GLAD YOU MADE IT BACK HOME!!!😊

  • @miamimercenary9623
    @miamimercenary9623 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve heard this story like 4 other times but this is the absolute best description of the events by far. Really great job

  • @hottubtimemachine1200
    @hottubtimemachine1200 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

    I’m glad you reminded me it’s not bad to ask for help. I was totally embarrassed I had a bad fall last week because of MS. Ambulance was called and I was embarrassed my legs didn’t work. My doctor said that’s their job don’t be embarrassed. To have you say it makes me feel better and not as ashamed. So thank you!

    • @mykingdomforak9
      @mykingdomforak9 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Think of all the situations,
      and various folks, EMTs meet,
      daily. 💞
      Never be embarrassed;
      instead, realize how lucky🍀
      we are, to live here.
      ❤ your TH-cam name,
      adore those films❣️
      PS: Once, I got sick in the lobby of a 5-⭐️ hotel.
      The ambulance guys felt so bad for me, that they trashed my
      ambulance-ride notes, so I wouldn't get billed.
      (I wasn't working, at the time (1997).)

    • @Otherworldly2003
      @Otherworldly2003 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Diabetic 50 years and have been blessed with the help of strangers throughout my lifetime.😃 God blessed the humble, so allow yourself to ask for help.✌🏽🙏🏾

    • @mykingdomforak9
      @mykingdomforak9 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@Otherworldly2003
      💞💓💕...
      Your comment makes me tear-up,
      in joyful tears.🥹
      "...allow yourself to ask for help"👍
      Everything you typed will assist me in being stronger this week.
      Thank You❣️❤️‍🩹

    • @kathymcmc
      @kathymcmc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm so sorry for your condition. Please look into mushroom tinctures. Lions Mane and Turkey Tail tincture may help delay the progress of MS. Wishing you all the best. Research Nicole Apelian's treatment for MS. Wishing you the best

    • @Otherworldly2003
      @Otherworldly2003 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mykingdomforak9 Then I have served our Father and his child will be well again.
      I love you in the blood of Jesus that is everlasting.
      Thank you for telling me I made a difference in your heart.

  • @chrisdann7017
    @chrisdann7017 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    I like how John Randolph stumbles upon a "Cannibal camp" and quickly decides to sketch it and somehow the sketch ends up being really good. Like he was scared but the artist in him wanted to make sure it everything was perfect. That sketch is far better then what I can do with any amount of free time and under zero pressure.

    • @helloneighbour2408
      @helloneighbour2408 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      dude is braver than most. I'd have ran away screaming lmao

  • @KOOLBadger
    @KOOLBadger 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I have been with you since you had only 150 people. Now you have 4 mil.? You deserve it!❤❤❤❤❤

  • @KbB-kz9qp
    @KbB-kz9qp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks - It’s like a new radio show - theatre of the mind. When listening to stories, one imagines the situándose the characters and scenery. Thanks! 😀

  • @AcademicMenace804
    @AcademicMenace804 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +582

    Fun fact: back when I was going to the University of Colorado, there was a restaurant in the student union called "The Alferd Packer Grill". Apparently, it's still there according to Google

    • @princeemishi245
      @princeemishi245 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      💀 human bbq

    • @adroo23
      @adroo23 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@princeemishi245😮😂

    • @Hessed3712
      @Hessed3712 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      The heck?!

    • @zephernix3718
      @zephernix3718 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      I just left CU and can confirm, it’s still there

    • @Clippidyclappidy
      @Clippidyclappidy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Well that’s morbid 😂

  • @lowa3053
    @lowa3053 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +673

    'Never Ignore Native Wisdom'.... Never a truer word spoken.

    • @Bgdnbhjggyu
      @Bgdnbhjggyu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yes

    • @Rebel-Wolf
      @Rebel-Wolf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yes

    • @slthjawa5062
      @slthjawa5062 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeah ... never ignore indian superstition 😅

    • @Bgdnbhjggyu
      @Bgdnbhjggyu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@slthjawa5062 yes you kissed a toilet lid, in high school , don’t deny it pal

    • @Ronfost89
      @Ronfost89 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      *Remembers my full blown drunk of a grandpa* uuuhhhhhh I think it is really on a case to case basis.

  • @MatAK49
    @MatAK49 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Okay, I am now hooked on Mr. Ballen's stories.
    I'll turn on one of his videos and do a chore or few around my home as I listen to his spoken words, which come across well-spoken and articulated.

  • @Jaxissupergay77
    @Jaxissupergay77 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My best friend is in the throes of addiction.Its a tragedy, and I pray for you, and your brother who loved Mcballen.I think youve said your love just right...😢❤

  • @BabyScatha
    @BabyScatha 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    This is one of the first times I knew the story the moment I saw the photo of Alfred. It's so interesting to hear the story told different ways. Especially the way MrBallen tells it. So even though I knew what was up, it was stil interesting to hear the story again.

    • @kimberlyshepherd270
      @kimberlyshepherd270 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Mr. Ballen could read me a story about the phonebook or menu and it would be great 💯

    • @NoNameCherry
      @NoNameCherry 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@kimberlyshepherd270 He'd most likely put a spin on it and it will be a whole new series about some hidden language in the pages and a conspiracy underneath, and I'd listen every time for sure.

  • @misfitrogue989
    @misfitrogue989 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +123

    I have been watching mrballen for over 4 years now and this and the podcast never fail to make my day, truly you never miss

    • @MrBallen
      @MrBallen  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      Thank you so much!!!

    • @RC-md2yx
      @RC-md2yx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@MrBallenim also watching for almost 3 years i watched every video of mrballen

  • @rashmipaboda
    @rashmipaboda 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I watched all the videos now i watch them again..never gets bored.best story teller❤️🔥

  • @Alan-me4yn
    @Alan-me4yn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry for your loss bud. Prayers sent!

  • @badmharya
    @badmharya 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +111

    Okay, I gotta say... this is one of the most plot twisted case I've ever seen, left me speechless, I was really starting to have some empathy for the Alfered guy🤨

    • @yoginc
      @yoginc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      FR..I thought it’d be an unknown cannibal in the end who’d never be caught! 😂

    • @DeathBlocks
      @DeathBlocks 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I thought it was going to be some supposed supernatural explanation (And that it tied in with why they had been warned), did not expect this at all.
      Still deciding if I entirely blame the guy.

    • @lillianrightmasika1546
      @lillianrightmasika1546 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right 😮

    • @Tamara-id1pe
      @Tamara-id1pe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DeathBlocksyes, like a wendigo

  • @kt420ish
    @kt420ish 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    The creators of South Park (Trey Parker and Matt Stone) made their first movie ever back in 1993 called "Cannibal" the musical. It's the story about Alferd Packer. Fucking hilarious if you're ever bored and have time to watch. It's pure comedy gold

    • @tjzambonischwartz
      @tjzambonischwartz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      This is a Shpadoinkle comment that makes me feel as warm as a baked potato.

    • @kt420ish
      @kt420ish 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tjzambonischwartz yo hooooo

    • @aulu
      @aulu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      1993

    • @kt420ish
      @kt420ish 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aulu thanks I just assumed it was 80s. Didn't look it up

    • @underwearmaintenance
      @underwearmaintenance 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Schpadoinkle!!

  • @wereallfuct
    @wereallfuct 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I appreciate you sharing this Luke. My older brother passed in 2020 from a failed brain tumor operation and it’s still fresh. I feel your pain man, we just gotta keep living for them.

  • @ch33seweasel42
    @ch33seweasel42 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heard this story a few weeks ago on another channel, but the way you told it made it very different, and also held the suspense til the end. Best storyteller on YT, nothing against any of the rest, plenty of good ones, but there can be only one GOAT.

  • @davidlancaster8152
    @davidlancaster8152 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    This story is incredibly close to me. I'm from these areas where the stories take place and my aunt had property where Chipita, Chief Ouray's wife, had a cabin which still existed in my youth. . Thanks Mr. B for making it real. You are a gem.

    • @welsh.truth.dragon3914
      @welsh.truth.dragon3914 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      11 30 pm here uk

    • @Cornwalls.best.doorway
      @Cornwalls.best.doorway 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @welsh… how is it 11.30 pm U.K. and you posted this 12 mins ago… it’s 21.38hrs as I write this from my bed in Cornwall, UK

    • @ivanamielniczuk7095
      @ivanamielniczuk7095 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Cornwalls.best.doorway maybe he took a nap?

    • @tjzambonischwartz
      @tjzambonischwartz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I lived in the area your aunt used to from 2016-2019.

    • @davidlancaster8152
      @davidlancaster8152 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tjzambonischwartz and are you better for it?

  • @SarutaValentine
    @SarutaValentine 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +313

    While Alfred is by no means innocent, I do have to wonder how traumatized he was, to the point of maybe forgetting what he did initially. The human mind and body can go through some very bizarre stages when survival is top priority

    • @shinigamikitty
      @shinigamikitty 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

      Yeah....plus, I almost wonder if all the men partook in cannibalism at first, due to the various states of decay. Perhaps they went after Israel first, and due to some kind of psychosis, Alfred felt he needed to kill the other 4 before they killed him. I mean ultimately only Alfred knows the whole story.

    • @omsmada
      @omsmada 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      It’s definitely not a black and white case. Even aside from his mental well-being, he probably would’ve died if he didn’t do it.

    • @SarutaValentine
      @SarutaValentine 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@shinigamikitty absolutely! That’s exactly what I was thinking!

    • @SourLymes
      @SourLymes 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      From another person telling this story, the whole thing is about a lying con man leading everyone in the wrong direction, then killing the people who went with him for their belongings and eventually for their meat. That's why he's pretty much labeled as a serial killer.

    • @gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298
      @gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Consuming human flesh and blood has a severe negative impact on the body, both physically and mentally. He was probably a bit psychotic to begin with, then just dove off the cliff without a chute, so to speak.

  • @TheFallxIn
    @TheFallxIn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wow. You have some awesome subscribers. So many nice comments to a random stranger going through a hard time.(besides a couple) You have a thoughtful and caring group of people from all over the world. It’s crazy how telling stories can have such a positive impact on people. It occupies your mind and helps you get past hard times. Addiction is something that affects more people than you’d expect. From defending our country to now entertaining and helping people through hard times. You are truly doing great things Mr. B. Thank you

  • @Nick-ov9gi
    @Nick-ov9gi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great talent at telling stories and the music just adds adds the perfect edge.

  • @thecampfire4877
    @thecampfire4877 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

    Ive been subbed to Mr.Ballen for like almost 4 years now, its so amazing to see how much hes blown up! 1M views in 24 hrs.. wow! He deserves it!

    • @ericwiese7479
      @ericwiese7479 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Same here! I think he had less than 400k subscribers when I joined. Great story teller for sure!

    • @ElixrFR
      @ElixrFR 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ericwiese7479 I totally agree

    • @lauren9373
      @lauren9373 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same! ​@@ericwiese7479

    • @debrandw246
      @debrandw246 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same here. Mr. Ballen has a gift. I am from the Appalachin Mountains, where story telling is a treasure. Thank you Mr. Ballen. You have an amazing gift.

  • @gaelsdottir5046
    @gaelsdottir5046 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +164

    I'm 68. I remember the early days of television, and have been thrilled to find some of the best from those days here on TH-cam. Programs were good. Scripts were compelling. And there were local stations all over, showcasing great local talent. Some programs appealed to wide audiences, from sign on at dawn to sign off around 2 a.m.
    Your channel reminds me of the very best of that. Enthusiastic people giving their best, who also knew the "tricks of the trade", chasing electrons to and fro.
    Your persona makes me think of a modern version of Lorenzo - Google him if you never heard of him, he was a local TV version of Emmett Kelly, but hosting a show. And that is a serious compliment! - your storycraft is like a casual Rod Serling; pull up a chair, have a soda, coffee, beer; relax, all ages welcome, now prepare to be enthralled.
    It's not nostalgic. It's each generation finding its best, and it's wonderful. Thank you for giving an older person some very welcome hope, and a warm connection between some of the best of the past and some of the best in the present.
    And thank you, too, for always "labeling" your footage, so we know what's a re-enactment or re-creation, and what's authentic. It matters, especially in the "deepfake" age. And it speaks volumes. As does your charity work.
    I have absolutely no right to say this, other than as the proud niece of a Pearl Harbor survivor. But I will anyway because I know what it means. Bravo Zulu, Mr. Ballen.

    • @enigma51ted
      @enigma51ted 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      im 55 in Minnesota, agreee with every word u said. and Yes Rod Sterling forever!

    • @reginanorwood9113
      @reginanorwood9113 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Wow....

    • @stevenchurch8901
      @stevenchurch8901 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Excellently stated, sir. I agree 100%

    • @kima838
      @kima838 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A lovely tribute!

  • @ArcticNya
    @ArcticNya 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for recommending BH! I've been using it for a while now and it's been extremely helpful :)

  • @cuse0117
    @cuse0117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mr ballen is a great story teller. When i subscribed he had only a million subs, maybe a little less, now he up to 8 million. That's something special

  • @zacwhitehouse249
    @zacwhitehouse249 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    Im so old, back in my day, I used hear the strange dark and mysterious 3, 4, even 5 times a week

    • @notnog
      @notnog 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Same

    • @rothed16
      @rothed16 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😂

    • @user92248
      @user92248 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Riiight. I miss the good old days 😊

    • @dk9619
      @dk9619 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yup

  • @haileighbear13
    @haileighbear13 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +307

    So 2 years ago when I was in a very abusive relationship I found your channel, and watched your videos all the time. I loved them so much as they were an escape of some sorts ;I would get lost in your storytelling. and they really helped me during a hard time. It’s 2 years later and I have a restraining order and pressed charges in my ex for trying to unalive me and my dog and long story short it also took me 2 years to watch a video of yours again. I stayed subscribed but every time you popped up on my home page I just couldn’t bring myself to watch the videos because they reminded me of such a dark time in my life. Now today, 2 years later I’m finally watching a video of yours for the first time and I’m glad I did. Thank you Mr.Ballen .

    • @metalmamasue3680
      @metalmamasue3680 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Good for you, I'm glad you are doing better now. ❤

    • @ritamarchi2168
      @ritamarchi2168 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      You picked an excellent one to come back on. This one, I think, is probably his best story.
      If you ever feel that way again, keep listening and think of all the people listening with you & take the opportunity to take your mind off of all the bad things you have to think about for a time. ❤

    • @garpnewgate
      @garpnewgate 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Glad you escaped that situation ma'am!

    • @rayjones95
      @rayjones95 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      🙏❤🙏❤🙏❤🙏

    • @abhiyaraman20
      @abhiyaraman20 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Hope ur doing good n hanging in there.

  • @Sheislove144
    @Sheislove144 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m so honored and proud to be indigenous I believe my faith ,wisdom ,knowledge , and power comes from my ancestors and their connection to nature and the divine ❤️🙏🏽

    • @ArchangelAdrian
      @ArchangelAdrian 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My Pocahontas! 😘🙆
      ❤🌹💋

  • @YolandaWynn
    @YolandaWynn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Needless to say, I’m HOOKED to this channel. I saw a comment one time that read getting to you by accident 😂, and that was me! I’ve always loved to read and still do and the way you tell stories, is by far, one of THE BEST! I absolutely love the way you mix old, even ancient, topics with today’s topics!! My original comment was about your “Better Help” ad and you find it useful and personal…..most of us have been there, thank you for your awesome content!

    • @ArchangelAdrian
      @ArchangelAdrian 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He does very good indeed
      And the way he does face expressions,.. and hand movements. 🙄🤷

  • @amariaz
    @amariaz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +183

    I have epilepsy myself and I know that it's not uncommon for mental illness to be associated with it. In extreme cases it's been associated with dissociative disorders, bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. That and depending on the type of seizures he suffered from (there are over 40 types, and people will usually suffer from more than one type based on what part of the brain is effected), would have been a recipe for disaster especially being unmedicated.

    • @viceb7
      @viceb7 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Good point, esp brought on by stress of being left behind to die

    • @shannon2228
      @shannon2228 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They say seizures are your body's way of doing upgrades. Welcome the ascension. Sending you love❤

    • @hodaka1000
      @hodaka1000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@shannon2228
      Yeah nah

    • @shannon2228
      @shannon2228 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hodaka1000 you never know

    • @hodaka1000
      @hodaka1000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@shannon2228
      Yeah I do know, and amariaz knows
      And you don't know

  • @mannyme5630
    @mannyme5630 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +372

    As a colorado native I can assure you that this will happen to you in any part of Colorado now a days with rent and house pricing... I actually heard recently that a cleaning lady or maid was eaten by the person that had hired her to clean his house last year in Aurora. When police went to his property for a welfare check on the maid he locked himself in and ended up killing himself before they could get him

    • @Craig-pm2kc
      @Craig-pm2kc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Source please.

    • @eliasjuan4513
      @eliasjuan4513 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Source: trust me bro@@Craig-pm2kc

    • @karalain04
      @karalain04 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Wow

    • @maryjane4432
      @maryjane4432 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Craig-pm2kcyou could google aurora and maid missing and it will probably show up

    • @ellis7622
      @ellis7622 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Craig-pm2kc it’s actually a real story although I’ll add that nothing I’ve read indicates that the killer intended to eat his victim. Just search “ aurora maid killed” in google.

  • @LydiaLehr22
    @LydiaLehr22 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the plot twist. Thanks for the story, Mr. Ballen! Your storytelling is brilliant as ever ❤

  • @pariscommune9742
    @pariscommune9742 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You have a great story telling style. As if you are in front of us
    either in a restaurant or before a campfire. So lively and friendly

  • @sterlingoldemeyer1203
    @sterlingoldemeyer1203 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    I live in Littleton CO and Alferd is buried in the Littleton cemetery. His coffin is allegedly encased in concrete because vandals have attempted to exhume his body throughout the years. It is great to hear the storytelling skills of Mr. Ballin used to tell a story so connected to my home town of Littleton CO.

    • @73roken
      @73roken หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did they ever find out why he killed his friends or have any leading theories?

    • @hoe4terrijoe
      @hoe4terrijoe หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@73rokenhe was probably pretty starving

  • @keithjenkins6034
    @keithjenkins6034 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +265

    I could literally be turning the key to my front door, and if a Native American shows up and tells me, give it 2 weeks. I'm waiting 14 days exactly

    • @asamiller4540
      @asamiller4540 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Um dude you got to be careful when dealing with native people cause if you tick them off they will hurt you I even heard stories about them scalping people

    • @squamish4244
      @squamish4244 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@asamiller4540 They learned it from the Conquistadors, then started doing it themselves.

    • @thatguymatt5816
      @thatguymatt5816 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      @@asamiller4540dude came from the 1700’s to comment on TH-cam 😂

    • @elloohno1349
      @elloohno1349 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @thatguyl 🤣

    • @emmylou4
      @emmylou4 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@thatguymatt5816 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @allegedlyme4766
    @allegedlyme4766 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are one of my favorite story tellers. Thanks for your video's!

  • @Oneofthedolls
    @Oneofthedolls 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm slowly catching up to your videos, I fell behind a few weeks ago, but now I have a chance to binge watch!! thank you for always making these videos! I love them!

    • @Ripley1994
      @Ripley1994 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too

  • @Unibot47
    @Unibot47 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +225

    If anyone wants to see another retelling of this story, watch Cannibal the Musical. It's about Alferd Packer and all them, made by Trey Parker & Matt Stone (South Park creators) their very first project ever. It's one of my all time favorite movies.

    • @resellsthings
      @resellsthings 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      amazing

    • @kingserafoi8355
      @kingserafoi8355 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      theeeee SKY IS BLUE

    • @forgethebind
      @forgethebind 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      And all the leaves are green!

    • @nihongohanasenai
      @nihongohanasenai 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      My heart's as big as a baked potato

    • @ryoung4529
      @ryoung4529 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nice hat!

  • @StumbleGurl
    @StumbleGurl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    I'm having a bad day , I'm super tired and just plain annoyed, but putting my headphones on and listening to some Mr ballen is exactly what I needed ❤

  • @sarahgottalover
    @sarahgottalover หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're an amazing story teller, I love listening to you tell these incredible and dark stories! 🖤

  • @cloydlee1291
    @cloydlee1291 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    God bless your brother. Mr. Ballen has helped me as well just watching his videos. I found his videos in a very dark time in mylife. I know it sounds so strange but just knowing what this man stands for and gotta admit every video is amazing there honestly keeping me safe

  • @AcesMacRae
    @AcesMacRae 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +112

    Nobody tells a story like a sailor. 💯❤️🇺🇸

    • @GayleneWise
      @GayleneWise 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Hmm seamen hahhahaha

    • @EM-mw2qr
      @EM-mw2qr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A whale of a tale.

    • @caramarsden7150
      @caramarsden7150 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GayleneWisehow old are you!? 🤦‍♀️ smh

    • @cologist
      @cologist 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@caramarsden7150 Do you condemn Hamas?

    • @bobbylee6859
      @bobbylee6859 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @cologist you got some braint rot going on man.

  • @twiztidclownluvv
    @twiztidclownluvv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

    This is Cannibal the Musical! The South Park guys did this as their first movie and it is glorious! Check it out if ya haven't seen it

    • @MrsGypsumFantastic
      @MrsGypsumFantastic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Soooo let’s build a snowman!

    • @ericallen4052
      @ericallen4052 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Whoop, Whoop ! . . . You lookin at my eye boy ?😂

    • @howardbroadhead27
      @howardbroadhead27 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      The sky is blue and all the trees are green 😂 some great songs on that film sooo let’s build a snowman

    • @MisterFrodo
      @MisterFrodo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      This is the most shpadoinkle comment

    • @vesperfalconheart4130
      @vesperfalconheart4130 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      My hearts as full as a baked patatuh that somebody brought this up lol

  • @Skyscraper2015
    @Skyscraper2015 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I kinda wondered if it was Alferd who had cannabilised his group. Fascinating to think that Chief Ouray knew something like that would happen. I wonder if he knew more about Alferd than he let on and that the other guys either didnt think much about or properly didnt know.
    Maybe Alferd was showing some sign and Chief Ouray being a clevervman no doubt might have picked up on it. He then told the guys not to do this journey.
    Or his warning had nothing to do with Alferd and everything to do with the weather. Also very likely

  • @Eric-bj1dc
    @Eric-bj1dc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He is the best story teller on you tube.