@terrellbaker1660 I look at his finals record is I give him all the credit in the world for going to 10 finals but for the "goat" to lose more than win is insane to me. MJ is still the goat imo
LeBron James is a 37.4% shooter from outside of 3ft, and a 37.8% shooter from mid-range for his career.. He has played 20 seasons for 3 rings and a disney ring and you both have him at number 2 .... WTF !
No matter how many stars you put with Lebron HE JUST CANNOT DOMINATE. Not in the Olympics, not in the NBA.... Put KD with a couple other top stars... We have seen what happens. Domination. Put Kobe or MJ with one or 2 stars... you get domination... Lebron had a team with 3 top 10 nba picks, in their big 3... and in 4 years he only got 2 rings??? C'mon, man.
@@evileyevalaus stop coming up with bs excuses I saw lebron already go to a finals in 07 also laughing at a old dirk with the flu smoke out the heatles along with Jason terry out played lebron talking shii while cooking him
@@2rawww4tvkd I'm as much a Bron hater as anyone but winning 2 rings can't be a failure like Chris said its definitely a disappointment that team should've been looked at as a all time team but the 2 losses they had in the finals is straight up embarrassing
When the man xame ou with a firework show, 5... 6... Up to 8.... Bro.. failure. . even vwouoeve said I'd u guys only win two aince u now stacked the deck would u consider it a failure... Only answer starts with a capitol Y buddy. They stayed it dude fr. And ...... He only is at half that 8 whole career. Be honest, have perspective@@evileyevalaus
The Heat losing the 2011 Finals created the horrible precedent of fans counting Finals appearances as a similar achievement to winning the Finals in order to justify the hype and to maintain their preconceived top 10 rankings. I remember in the 90s when Shaq lost the Finals to Hakeem/Rockets and that Finals loss was used against Shaq when ranking him with other all-time greats. The Lakers losing the 2004 Finals was also used against Kobe. But after Miami lost in 2011, the rules were rewritten to where players get as much credit for making the NBA Finals as winning one. There is zero penalty now for losing the Finals when we discuss legacies.
It actually started in 07. Lebron avg 22 on 35/20/69 shooting splits and almost avg 6 TO’s.. all you heard it wasn’t fault despite him playing like dog sh*t and parading that he got there at 22.
@@evileyevalaus so you get a pass for playing like crap ? I hope you know despite lebrons terrible shooting splits and historic to’s, the cavs only lost by a 6 point margin. 3 of the 4 games were decided by 9 or less. 2 of the 4 games were decided by 3 or less. The cavs had a top defense and held the spurs under 100 for 3 of the 4 games. They held Duncan to 18 on 42%… if lebron wasn’t avg 22 with 5 TO’s, they could’ve won that series.. but let’s continue not playing him.
“It’s a championship for Dallas I don’t take it away………BUT” BROUSSARD Is attempting to disrespect and take away the Mavs Championship because of his conflicts with Mark Cuban. The problem with clowns like Broussard is that they act like the Miami Heat were the only good team the 2011 Mavs beat. The Mavs went 12-3 in the Western Conference playoffs dominating the Lakers, trailblazer’s, and OKC Thunder.
Damianoutlaw@ Stop. The heat was the favorite once Lebron and Bosh join Wade in Miami. During Lebron’s introduction speech he proclaimed winning multiple rings. It was expected the heat would go down as one of the greatest teams assembled such as beating the single season winning record held by Chicago and completing a three peat. It’s clear they were a disappointment
You had the most stacked team in history (before GSW) and you lost twice in the Finals, got lucky in another one, and had the worst Finals loss ever against Dallas. Absolute failure....
Two things can be true, Joker is still the best player in the world even though he didn't make the finals. You think Tatum or JB is better because they have a ring? Kobe was on a better team with an all time great player. That doesn't take away from what Kobe achieved.
Kobe fan here. Lebron was definitely the best player at the time but that makes that "decision" more egregious because if the best player has 2 other perreniel allstars how does anyone else win? Not to mention a bunch of the support players took less. Miller, battier, ray allen for example. They were as talented a team that the salary cap could allow. You could have replace lebron with any top 7 player and they would have still been the most talented team in the league. Them winning didn't really prove anything
Kobes first 3 rings was on SHAQs team. Go back and read the stats. Shaq was dominate during that run. As much as I'm a Kobe fan, Shaq was the guy on that team. Kobe was his Pippen. Shaq took all three finals MVP. This is why LBJ is over Kobe. Yea Kobe has five RINGS, but he only has TWO finals MVP and LBJ has FOUR
Anyone who actually watched the 4 years Lebron in Miami, but not only highlights, Not only stats and not only 2011 finals, but the whole 4 years again not only the first year the whole 4 years and again not only highlights or stats , would trade Wade and bosh for Shaq Lakers, so Kobe having Shaq had a better team than Lebron.
Considering Lebron was the best player in the Eastern Conference (and arguably the NBA) and he joined the other best player in the Eastern Conference along with another franchise player in Chris Bosh, getting to the Finals isn't that grand of an achievement in an all-time weak conference and is massively overhyped by Lebron fans. So yes, definitely not a failure because they won 2 championships, but a disappointment considering the circumstances and the expectations.
The bottom line to me what happened is he believed he was joining his good buddy Dwyane Wade, who was a top five player in the NBA when they hooked up. But within three seasons, Wade went from being a top five player to maybe top 20. The injuries to his knees just completely ruined Any fantasy LeBron had about a true dynasty in Miami.
I really like Lebron man but that 2011 year is something I can’t forget. Especially when debating the goat, MJ would never go out that sad 8 years into his career. Holding ‘92-‘93 MJ to 8 points??? Yeah good luck with that
@@RobinXlone Mike averaged 41/9/6 on 51% shooting in the 93 finals. Apples to apples here kid. Nobody was stopping him his 8th year in the league. Meanwhile, 5'11" JJ Barrea had lebron in handcuffs. Dead center of his mvp run too. Lebron got mvp in 09, 10, 12, and 13. 2011 was Lebron at his ABSOLUTE PRIME. Shame that a midget and the geriatric squad had him as the 5th best player on the court that series.
dwade literally fumbled the ball wit 6 seconds left down 3 in game 2. Bosh let Dirk cross him and hit a wide open layup game winner at the buzzer in game 4. Without those 2 plays Miami would've won in 4.
Imagine if something was demanded for Paul Gasol instead of practically nothing, the trade might not have happened. What if KG has not been injured. Kobe doesn’t get those last 2 rings
It's not so much the 3 from Ray, it was the rebound bouncing to Bosh. If that ball bounces anywhere else, it's over. Not to mention the free throws that Manu and Kawhi choked on that would have ended it. Luckiest ring in history.
I mean he was added to the team for that moment so...if was a fifth we would all be drunk...the heat won in ot spurs choked at ft line missed last second shot and lost game 7
For that entire Finals, the Spurs as a TEAM shot better than Steph during his unanimous MVP season from the field and from three, by percentage. Their offensive scheme went deep into the shot clock with an average 8 passes or something like that, ending up with a very high percentage shot (which they nailed, over and over again).
I disagree but yes the 2 losses were historically bad, while the 2 wins were against a not yet ready thunder & a ray Allen last second shot to save the series.
Chris doing his best to backtrack for klutch. What a clown. Dudes lost all his credibility in a few months. And dude claims to be a Christian standing for integrity. Yeah my ahhh 😂😂🤡🤡
@@greggibson33 Listen to how he treats càllers that are against James and Klutch Sports. Over the next 4-5 months just listen. Id have changed these two out a year ago.
Don't forget that the Heatles in 2014 lost by the largest margin in NBA Finals history against an old Spurs team and pre-All-Star Kawhi Leonard. When the Heatles lost they did it in grand fashion.
The '11 and '14 finals losses is the main reason I can't but Bron over mike to lose by a historic margin after losing a series they had no business losing is too much bad Ls for him to be the G.O.A.T
@@evileyevalaus yeh it’s ok to lose but to lose by a RECORD margin is just embarrassing. All the finals in history and the healtles lost by the biggest margin. To a team without a player in their prime as well
David Stern ruined the Lakers when he vetoed the cp3 trade. Looking at it now, that ultimately saved LeBron from having less championships because Kobe and CP would have definitely won at least one together.. i always said that move seemed like a way to stop Kobe from getting more than MJ.
They could've won just one ring and it's not a failure but mfkas thought that heat team was gonna be a all time great team and that's where the disappointment comes in had they beat the Mavs and still won the next 2 it wouldn't be a question how good that team was
Throughout lebron's career he's failed to seize BIG moments that "superstars" usually do!! Stepping up to those moments is what I believe makes "superstars", not hype...... IMO 🤔!!
Stack a team like that .. only two, with a counting up to 8 firework show .. stoppp.. only bandwagon fans or younglings dont realize that.... He linked with two other franchise stars bro
That wasn't the first time he failed to seize the moment, remember in the '15 finals game 4 the Cavs were up 2 to 1 & he should've came out looking to taking control of that series...... IMO 🤔!!
Wade in that Dallas series had a +15 net rating on 40 minutes a game and the Heat somehow lost that series. The minutes Wade was off the floor, the heats got obliterated. That is one of the strangest finals in NBA history.
4 straight Finals and won 2 of them. People really need to stop with these fantasy expectations. If this is disappointing, then every player with only 1 title is a loser.
But they were historically stacked. You are right in reality, but still it was not as good a run as it should have been. The Dallas series is the biggest choke job in history so just on that, you can’t say it was successful
I think the mobb got involved with that Dallas series… because how you go from being unstoppable on the way to a sweep and then all of a sudden fall off the map… just don’t make sense.
It was a failure. They needed to win AT LEAST three championships. The Heat lost in embarassing fashion in 2011 against the Mavericks & were spanked historically in 2014. In 2011, Wade & LeBron mocked Dirk for being sick, Jason Terry called out & outplayed LeBron, and LeBron had an epic meltdown. In 2014 the Spurs just beat them down & made their entire team on both ends of the court look old (despite thr Spurs having the older stars). No one had an asnwer for Kawhi Leonard & LeBron had to be carried off court due to cramps. The Heatles began and ended their run in failure.
All you did was Nit pick and specifically Key In on their 2 loses instead of mentioning the Fact that they went to the Finals 4 years straight and Won 2 titles and Had 27 game winning streak in 2013 .
LeBron said not 5, not 6, not 7... Because he knew with this move they had a huge competitive advantage over the rest of the league; yet, they only won two in 4 years. How is that not a failure?🤔 The same could be said for LeBron's entire career after his first stint in Cleveland. It's ridiculous that you guys actually believe LeFlop is the second greatest player ever.
Nah most organizations wouldn’t want to be involved in historic blowout losses in the finals. I believe they lost by the highest margin ever in a finals series. So no, most teams wouldn’t want that. Sounds like you want a LeBronze James Finals Participation Trophy to be created.
LeBron played 262 minutes in the 2011 NBA Final series. LeBron scored 107 points. Jason Terry played 195 minutes in the 2011 NBA Final series. Jason Terry scored 108 points.
@@Osei_Bean_8ryant LeBron stans are not basketball fans. They are delusional groupies who will throw mud on anyone to prop up his phony legacy. It will be interesting to watch this season unfold, that's for sure.
@@marianoortega6725it absolutely is especially when you include Ray Allen, Mike Miller, UD, Chalmers, etc. those teams were loaded! That's literally why LeBron did it to stack the deck in his favor. Been doing it ever since he left for Miami.
@@nostaljah19 Boston's 1 ring is what forced Lebron to join Miami. If that didn't happen Boston would have won 3. They would have beat Dallas in 2011 and OKC in 2012.
@@terrellbaker1660 they couldn’t even 2 rings, wat makes you think they win 3? Kobe and pau took them down, because of their superteam one was made in the same conference to stop them
Yes it was a failure. They struggled against the San Antonio Spurs and Dallas Mavericks so stop it. They played a young Oklahoma City team the first finals. And they weren't old because Dwayne Wade played well in Chicago and LeBron won the bubble championship years later
Spurs were a mini dynasty, the Mavs were a better team. How are you comparing 2011 to 2020, thats a 9 year difference. D-Wade was old, there was a reason why he had no issue giving Lebron the reigns. The 2024 Mavs have two top players, the Celtics are a better team. it's not 5 vs 1 ball, the vast majority of the time the better "team" wins.
Do your history dudes talk about 11’ but In 09’ Lebron lost to and AND1 player in 2013 he lost to 38 yr old Duncan and 18 year old Kahw by a record margin.
With the supposed best small forward ever in his prime and a top 5 shooting guard off all time and a power forward that was averaging 24 and 10 yeah it's a fail. They lost to Dallas man.
NOT 1, NOT 2, NOT 3, NOT 4, NOT 5, NOT 6, NOT 7 and they end up 2-2? Yeah that’s a FAILURE! Why else would LeBRONZE🥉🥉JUMP SHIP? The KING 👑 of LOSE & RUN mode. It was a FAILURE and him RUNNING to the Cavs proves that. Plus they added Ray Allen who saved the Heat from losing 3 out of 4 championships when he hit that 3 after LeBRONZE🥉🥉missed a 3. Thanks Rob for always keeping it 💯
I think Chris is right. The disappointing part is that the team only lasted 4yrs. Injuries is what really got them in the end. That said, ask yourself a question. What core has only been together 4yrs, and achieved more than the Heatles? Shaq and Kobe were together twice as long, also went to four finals and only won one additional title.
Yeah but nobody called the lakers a super team. LeBron played with 3 other hall of fame players on the heat it was just Shaq and kobe plus good role players.
Show time Lakers too. Dominated the 80s. Heatles don't compare to showtime and Shaq and kobe and even KD and Steph,they could of won,heck they surely win had KD and Klay not got injured,so KD and steph would of three peat.
Just the fact that they had to come together to form the "heatles" disqualifies lebron from GOAT conversation. Weak. Imagine jordan joining teams with barkley and hakeem? Or kobe joining with duncan and AI?
If 4 straight trips to the finals while repeating (winning two) is a failure, then wtf are the Big 3 Nets, the Big 3 Suns, or the Clippers when Kawhi and PG clicked up?
Warriors almost lost to the Thunder before they went against the Cavs and Steph numbers diminished as well. Warriors broke a regular season record but they weren't as tough as people made them to be.
@@Mason_23 there is different levels, standards and expectations to each teams and players based on their roster + talent. Thats why the Heat run is considered a failure.
@@justbudd1886 the interview he did with the person who was trying to discredit Michael Jordan’s DPOY award, right as the interview started. Go find it, listen, and come back.
The night the 2011 mavericks won the championship during Dirks press interview he said something that always stuck with me: "No matter what.....no one can ever take this away" Guys, this is what exactly what a hater like chris Broussard will attempt to do. They will try and downplay your accomplishment. They will try and gaslight you into acting like Dallas didn't beat Miami 6 out of the 8 times they played. You will encounter haters like this your entire life.
@@jakieresykes3644 the mavericks beat the Miami heat without their 2nd best player in Caron Butler. The mavs were clearly a better team than the Miami Heat.
@@Damianoutlaw No they were not it’s a reason why Dallas was a clear cut underdog going into that series that’s why when it comes to that championship people don’t remember Dallas winning they remember Lebron choking
@@TonyThaDonhahah those 8 straight finals trips need to be explained in full context😂 the East was trash during that time, lebron took the competitive spirit out of it, once he started teaming up with top 2,5 caliber players in such weak conference and a stacked super team with a bunch of would be starters in other teams 😂😂 please. No one cares Jerry west made the finals almost as much, west only won 1 chip😂 no one cares about participation trophies 😂😂😂
Wade was great in the 2011 Finals. LeBron really cost him when you think about it. Wade is an All Time great no doubt but I feel like he would be even higher on people's All Time list if he had that 2nd Finals MVP. The list of players that have 4 Championships+multiple Finals MVP's is very small.
2 Championships in 4 years is a success. Especially when the super teams nowadays can barley make it out the first round or even get on the court together. Winning multiple championships is never a failure.
“Not 5, Not 6, not 7…” they failed. They went 2-2 in the finals with the most talent in the league. Lost against a Mavs team with Dirk and role players then an aging Spurs with pre all star Kawhi.
The first year of the Heatles was the NBA analogy of the '04 Olympic team, they were too cocky and thought they could run thru anyone and didn't properly respect their opposition. 2012 and 13 was proper, but the way they got absolutely obliterated by the Spurs in 2014 was inexcusable. Losing to them is no huge fault, but how badly they were outplayed is, like I said earlier, inexcusable.
@@timmartin2417 you ain't lying 😭🤣 definitely can't be called a failure but definitely a disappointment should've been looked at as a all time great team but those 2 finals losses are straight up embarrassing
Its funny how nobody brings up their 2014 loss to the Spurs. No shame in losing to Pop/Duncan, but bro, they got gentleman swept and I never hear anyone holding it against them.
Hell of a run but Kobe and the Lakers were coming off 3 finals u could see they were gassed , KD was 22 , but Bron and the Heat had no reason to lose to Dallas , they were all in their prime , Bron was coming off 2 MVPs , no excuses
"Not 5, Not 6, not 7..." Lol he was actually talking about his career finals LOSES
Skips burner account
Or finals appearances.
@terrellbaker1660 I look at his finals record is I give him all the credit in the world for going to 10 finals but for the "goat" to lose more than win is insane to me. MJ is still the goat imo
@@terrellbaker1660When the second best player in the east was Paul George for half a decade is that really a accomplishment?
@@Mericaa47over D rose? Nah you cappin
‘Not four, not five, not six, not seven, not eight’ Two 😂😂
He was feelin himself too much😭🤣🤣🤣
@@evileyevalaus I know lol it’s a great example of why you should always act humble in all situations 😂
Can’t win eight in four years 🤔
@@aswanwilliam thanks captain obvious 😭🤣 but only winning 2 with that team is insane the 2 finals losses was embarrassing
Looolz they were a failure really won 2 coming out the East
LeBron James is a 37.4% shooter from outside of 3ft,
and a 37.8% shooter from mid-range for his career..
He has played 20 seasons for 3 rings and a disney
ring and you both have him at number 2 .... WTF !
Totally agree!! He is top 10, but not anywhere near #2.
100%. Can the bar be any lower?😆
And if any other team had won that '20 season, people would say it was the hardest one ever.
@@georgeprchal3924 No, we wouldn't.
No matter how many stars you put with Lebron HE JUST CANNOT DOMINATE. Not in the Olympics, not in the NBA.... Put KD with a couple other top stars... We have seen what happens. Domination. Put Kobe or MJ with one or 2 stars... you get domination... Lebron had a team with 3 top 10 nba picks, in their big 3... and in 4 years he only got 2 rings??? C'mon, man.
Lebron was a Role Player in 2011 D wade was gone be finals mvp & lebron REFUSED to help that man
Stoppppp the moment bron got there wade did his best to make bron "the guy" Bron just wasn't ready for the bright lights yet
@@evileyevalaus stop coming up with bs excuses I saw lebron already go to a finals in 07 also laughing at a old dirk with the flu smoke out the heatles along with Jason terry out played lebron talking shii while cooking him
@@2rawww4tvkd I'm as much a Bron hater as anyone but winning 2 rings can't be a failure like Chris said its definitely a disappointment that team should've been looked at as a all time team but the 2 losses they had in the finals is straight up embarrassing
When the man xame ou with a firework show, 5... 6... Up to 8.... Bro.. failure. . even vwouoeve said I'd u guys only win two aince u now stacked the deck would u consider it a failure... Only answer starts with a capitol Y buddy. They stayed it dude fr. And ...... He only is at half that 8 whole career. Be honest, have perspective@@evileyevalaus
@@2rawww4tvkdwhat was LeBron numbers in 07 Finals numbers,pull up your evidence.
The Heat losing the 2011 Finals created the horrible precedent of fans counting Finals appearances as a similar achievement to winning the Finals in order to justify the hype and to maintain their preconceived top 10 rankings.
I remember in the 90s when Shaq lost the Finals to Hakeem/Rockets and that Finals loss was used against Shaq when ranking him with other all-time greats. The Lakers losing the 2004 Finals was also used against Kobe.
But after Miami lost in 2011, the rules were rewritten to where players get as much credit for making the NBA Finals as winning one. There is zero penalty now for losing the Finals when we discuss legacies.
Agreed the media always has to justify lebrons failures
That 2011 loss definitely changed shii but only the Bron fans put appearances on the same level as wins
It actually started in 07. Lebron avg 22 on 35/20/69 shooting splits and almost avg 6 TO’s.. all you heard it wasn’t fault despite him playing like dog sh*t and parading that he got there at 22.
@@MR.__G Bron was still young at that point that's why he gets a pass for that year your not wrong though
@@evileyevalaus so you get a pass for playing like crap ? I hope you know despite lebrons terrible shooting splits and historic to’s, the cavs only lost by a 6 point margin. 3 of the 4 games were decided by 9 or less. 2 of the 4 games were decided by 3 or less. The cavs had a top defense and held the spurs under 100 for 3 of the 4 games. They held Duncan to 18 on 42%… if lebron wasn’t avg 22 with 5 TO’s, they could’ve won that series.. but let’s continue not playing him.
“It’s a championship for Dallas I don’t take it away………BUT”
BROUSSARD Is attempting to disrespect and take away the Mavs Championship because of his conflicts with Mark Cuban.
The problem with clowns like Broussard is that they act like the Miami Heat were the only good team the 2011 Mavs beat.
The Mavs went 12-3 in the Western Conference playoffs dominating the Lakers, trailblazer’s, and OKC Thunder.
Exactly! These old heads like to rewrite history and make up narratives. I guess it's a slow news day.
Stop it that series had more with Lebron Meltdown more than anything if Lebron is anything close to himself they easily beat Dallas
Facts 💯💯😭😭
Damianoutlaw@ Stop. The heat was the favorite once Lebron and Bosh join Wade in Miami. During Lebron’s introduction speech he proclaimed winning multiple rings. It was expected the heat would go down as one of the greatest teams assembled such as beating the single season winning record held by Chicago and completing a three peat. It’s clear they were a disappointment
WTF does that have to do with Lebron not showing up? It doesn’t matter who the mavs beat before they played Miami. This sounds like excuse making
You had the most stacked team in history (before GSW) and you lost twice in the Finals, got lucky in another one, and had the worst Finals loss ever against Dallas. Absolute failure....
Jason Terry got that Finals Championship tattoo even before the NBA Finals started.😁
Kobe had 5 rings coming off his last championship and Broussard had the nerve to say lebron was the best player in the world smh
Two things can be true, Joker is still the best player in the world even though he didn't make the finals. You think Tatum or JB is better because they have a ring? Kobe was on a better team with an all time great player. That doesn't take away from what Kobe achieved.
Kobe fan here. Lebron was definitely the best player at the time but that makes that "decision" more egregious because if the best player has 2 other perreniel allstars how does anyone else win? Not to mention a bunch of the support players took less. Miller, battier, ray allen for example. They were as talented a team that the salary cap could allow. You could have replace lebron with any top 7 player and they would have still been the most talented team in the league. Them winning didn't really prove anything
Kobes first 3 rings was on SHAQs team. Go back and read the stats. Shaq was dominate during that run. As much as I'm a Kobe fan, Shaq was the guy on that team. Kobe was his Pippen. Shaq took all three finals MVP. This is why LBJ is over Kobe. Yea Kobe has five RINGS, but he only has TWO finals MVP and LBJ has FOUR
Anyone who actually watched the 4 years Lebron in Miami, but not only highlights, Not only stats and not only 2011 finals, but the whole 4 years again not only the first year the whole 4 years and again not only highlights or stats , would trade Wade and bosh for Shaq Lakers, so Kobe having Shaq had a better team than Lebron.
@@User-v3e BUT NOT GASOL AND BYNUM (or insert odom if you want) for 2 rings
By Lebron’s own metric it was a failure.
It's time for Chris to go to another venue. The Clutch Sports affiliation is disgusting.
Why? He spoke the truth 4 finals 2 championships is successful
Clutch sports is toxic
@@Mason_23Not when you had put together a super team and unfairly stacked the deck with talent!
@blaketindle4703 I still think that Heat team was very limited in their team construct. Very weak in the middle and average off the bench, to me.
@@blaketindle4703 yes 4 finals and 2 championships how is that a failure?
Clutch Broussard just making up topics to prop up LeBron smh
Considering Lebron was the best player in the Eastern Conference (and arguably the NBA) and he joined the other best player in the Eastern Conference along with another franchise player in Chris Bosh, getting to the Finals isn't that grand of an achievement in an all-time weak conference and is massively overhyped by Lebron fans. So yes, definitely not a failure because they won 2 championships, but a disappointment considering the circumstances and the expectations.
Well said
You can add the fact that they were one clutch Ray Allen 3 pointer away from losing 3 finals.
The bottom line to me what happened is he believed he was joining his good buddy Dwyane Wade, who was a top five player in the NBA when they hooked up. But within three seasons, Wade went from being a top five player to maybe top 20. The injuries to his knees just completely ruined Any fantasy LeBron had about a true dynasty in Miami.
Factsssss bro
I really like Lebron man but that 2011 year is something I can’t forget. Especially when debating the goat, MJ would never go out that sad 8 years into his career. Holding ‘92-‘93 MJ to 8 points??? Yeah good luck with that
Thats bc MJ would just throw up contested bricks instead of passing the ball. He shot like 40%fg in the 2nd 3peat.
@@RobinXloneMJ threw up “contested bricks” and somehow still 3Peat’d…🤔😂
@@RobinXlone Mike averaged 41/9/6 on 51% shooting in the 93 finals. Apples to apples here kid. Nobody was stopping him his 8th year in the league. Meanwhile, 5'11" JJ Barrea had lebron in handcuffs. Dead center of his mvp run too. Lebron got mvp in 09, 10, 12, and 13. 2011 was Lebron at his ABSOLUTE PRIME. Shame that a midget and the geriatric squad had him as the 5th best player on the court that series.
LeBron oversold the Heat just like he oversold his son.
So dark smh
He understood bronkee he is a dog 🐕
Lbj is smart always has controlled rhe media early on
Would've 3 peated if LeBron didn't have the biggest meltdown ever.
Maybe not. If Lebron doesn’t have the 2011 failure, he may not have epic game 6 vs Boston 2011 and game 6/7 vs San Antonio 2012.
Bron didn't melt down vs Mavs. Mavs were a better team. Yall never respect them
They still won back to back.
dwade literally fumbled the ball wit 6 seconds left down 3 in game 2. Bosh let Dirk cross him and hit a wide open layup game winner at the buzzer in game 4. Without those 2 plays Miami would've won in 4.
@@eastgate6134 17/7/6 that's Lebron's numbers in the finals. He melted like a Florida snowman.
Imagine if ray allen doesn't hit that 3 or his foot was on the line😳🤯
Imagine if something was demanded for Paul Gasol instead of practically nothing, the trade might not have happened. What if KG has not been injured. Kobe doesn’t get those last 2 rings
@@JasonWalkerJamaicaPau Gasol wasn’t a superstar… Kobe didn’t need a super team to win
@@JasonWalkerJamaica You do know the Lakers were already in first place in the West when they traded for Gasol.
It's not so much the 3 from Ray, it was the rebound bouncing to Bosh. If that ball bounces anywhere else, it's over. Not to mention the free throws that Manu and Kawhi choked on that would have ended it. Luckiest ring in history.
I mean he was added to the team for that moment so...if was a fifth we would all be drunk...the heat won in ot spurs choked at ft line missed last second shot and lost game 7
Getting blown out by a record amount of points to older Spurs team was pathetic
Spurs were not old team.
Spurs of 2013-2014 is literally an all-time team what are you yapping about?
For that entire Finals, the Spurs as a TEAM shot better than Steph during his unanimous MVP season from the field and from three, by percentage. Their offensive scheme went deep into the shot clock with an average 8 passes or something like that, ending up with a very high percentage shot (which they nailed, over and over again).
@@swarajthapa5798They’re considered an old team.
Duncan was 38. Manu was 37. Parker 32.
@@b84__ they lost by a record finals margin that’s what was pathetic 😂
It should've been 1 ring and not 2. Popovich sat Duncan at the end of that game like a dumbass.
Smh screwed em
I'm a spurs fan but u don't know what would have happen even if Duncan was in the game. U can't just say they would have won
@0624tre Dude, he had his best and tallest player on the bench.
Shoulda coulda woulda
Not one of the greatest coaches. But the Spurs GM was one of the greatest
It was a failure because LeBron choked in 2011 and quit in 2014. Period.
Not a failure because they won rings it's definitely a disappointment but back to back champs is not failure
yes to the former no the latter. Bron was the best player by far from that series in 2014. Wade was a shell of his self and Bosh didn't show!!!
Those were 2x but don't forget the '15 finals also!! He quit in '18, the 🧹 came out & he knew he was leaving!!
They got blew out by a record margin in the 2014 Finals too
I disagree but yes the 2 losses were historically bad, while the 2 wins were against a not yet ready thunder & a ray Allen last second shot to save the series.
Chris doing his best to backtrack for klutch. What a clown. Dudes lost all his credibility in a few months. And dude claims to be a Christian standing for integrity. Yeah my ahhh 😂😂🤡🤡
Klutch Bron-Sard
His cred vanished months ago. Defends Klutch and bad behavior only from people he likes. Mega hypocrite.
Is he sighned to Klutch
@@greggibson33
Listen to how he treats càllers that are against James and Klutch Sports.
Over the next 4-5 months just listen.
Id have changed these two out a year ago.
Mavs swept that Heat team in the regular season 2-0 and won 4 games vs them in the finals. Damn, give them some credit for knowing how to beat them.
If Lebron doesn’t choke they are not beating the Heat
@@jakieresykes3644Mavs smoked the Heat without their 2nd best player Caron Butler
@@Damianoutlaw Bra stop it the Miami we’re up 2-1 if Lebron is himself they are beating Dallas
All I keep hearing is this is the big three but Wade and Bosh get no blame they play worse than LeBron
@@quinnv8623Lebron was the supposedly the best player on the team and yet the best player on had 8 points
LeBron was referring to Eastern Conference Championships when he made that statement 😭🤣😭🤣😭🤣😭🤣😭🤣😭🤣
Don't forget that the Heatles in 2014 lost by the largest margin in NBA Finals history against an old Spurs team and pre-All-Star Kawhi Leonard. When the Heatles lost they did it in grand fashion.
Lol that finals was an absolute embarrassment from LeCramps
The '11 and '14 finals losses is the main reason I can't but Bron over mike to lose by a historic margin after losing a series they had no business losing is too much bad Ls for him to be the G.O.A.T
@@evileyevalaus yeh it’s ok to lose but to lose by a RECORD margin is just embarrassing. All the finals in history and the healtles lost by the biggest margin. To a team without a player in their prime as well
That “old” spurs team won 62 games and was the #1 seed
“Old” that team won 62 games and crushed everybody
David Stern ruined the Lakers when he vetoed the cp3 trade. Looking at it now, that ultimately saved LeBron from having less championships because Kobe and CP would have definitely won at least one together.. i always said that move seemed like a way to stop Kobe from getting more than MJ.
Or a way that Kobe can't compete with Miami big 3, i guess Stern didn't want Bryant to have a big 3 of his own with CP3 & Gasol! 🤷🏿♂️
Changed history of the league and Kobe's legacy. Stern was a one man cancel culture and MJ fanboy.
It wasn’t a failure but they definitely underachieved considering the expectation
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Exactly
Leave it to LeFraud to say something stoopid....again.... predicting not 2, not 3, not 4..... dumass.
They could've won just one ring and it's not a failure but mfkas thought that heat team was gonna be a all time great team and that's where the disappointment comes in had they beat the Mavs and still won the next 2 it wouldn't be a question how good that team was
Throughout lebron's career he's failed to seize BIG moments that "superstars" usually do!! Stepping up to those moments is what I believe makes "superstars", not hype...... IMO 🤔!!
Broussard is out of his mind if he thinks Lebron was the best player in the world in 2010. That title belonged to the Mamba who won back to back.
Had they 3 peated, that would have been an absolute success
I agree with Chris it wasn't a failure but it definitely was a disappointment
It was still a success but ok what you mean if they had gotten that 11 chip and the next 2 definitely would've been an all time team
Stack a team like that .. only two, with a counting up to 8 firework show .. stoppp.. only bandwagon fans or younglings dont realize that.... He linked with two other franchise stars bro
if my grandma had wheels she'd be a bicycle
That wasn't the first time he failed to seize the moment, remember in the '15 finals game 4 the Cavs were up 2 to 1 & he should've came out looking to taking control of that series...... IMO 🤔!!
They should’ve won three of four rings. By not winning one additional ring if that’s a failure, so be it
Is successful 4 finals and 2 championships
No chance it was a failure it's definitely a disappointment tho had they beat the Mavs and then won the next 2 it's a whole different story
I believe it was more a/b lebron not seizing a lot of moments in his career that "superstars" usually do.......just saying 🤔!!
@@Mason_23massive failure
@@uncleb7821 yeah to you it is.
Wade in that Dallas series had a +15 net rating on 40 minutes a game and the Heat somehow lost that series. The minutes Wade was off the floor, the heats got obliterated. That is one of the strangest finals in NBA history.
4 straight Finals and won 2 of them. People really need to stop with these fantasy expectations. If this is disappointing, then every player with only 1 title is a loser.
AND ran into a Spurs team that was on a historical playoff run. Rob is turning into Skip more and more each show.
Exactly 4 finals 2 championships is successful
Agree. Plus, they were only together for those 4 years.
the dude that said they would 7 yeah gtfoh
But they were historically stacked. You are right in reality, but still it was not as good a run as it should have been. The Dallas series is the biggest choke job in history so just on that, you can’t say it was successful
I think the mobb got involved with that Dallas series… because how you go from being unstoppable on the way to a sweep and then all of a sudden fall off the map… just don’t make sense.
It was a failure. They needed to win AT LEAST three championships. The Heat lost in embarassing fashion in 2011 against the Mavericks & were spanked historically in 2014.
In 2011, Wade & LeBron mocked Dirk for being sick, Jason Terry called out & outplayed LeBron, and LeBron had an epic meltdown. In 2014 the Spurs just beat them down & made their entire team on both ends of the court look old (despite thr Spurs having the older stars). No one had an asnwer for Kawhi Leonard & LeBron had to be carried off court due to cramps.
The Heatles began and ended their run in failure.
You can't honestly say it was a failure they did go to 4 straight finals, but I agree they didn't meet my expectations.
All you did was Nit pick and specifically Key In on their 2 loses instead of mentioning the Fact that they went to the Finals 4 years straight and Won 2 titles and Had 27 game winning streak in 2013 .
@@SaySpawnmaking the finals isnt an accomplishment
@@lavellrobinson1648
The Buffalo Bills are the only team in NFL history to go to 4 straight Super Bowls
No one cares
No it wasn't a failure it was a disappointment you can't say winning rings makes you a failure 😭🤣💯💯
I remember commentators legit saying this team could win 80 games. 😂
I mean if healthy in 2010 that heat team wins like 70 so...
@@razkable what about the other years?
LeBron said not 5, not 6, not 7... Because he knew with this move they had a huge competitive advantage over the rest of the league; yet, they only won two in 4 years. How is that not a failure?🤔
The same could be said for LeBron's entire career after his first stint in Cleveland. It's ridiculous that you guys actually believe LeFlop is the second greatest player ever.
Winning back-to-back championships isn't a failure.. of course you wanna win more.. ANY team would die to win back-to-back championships..
This, it’s ridiculous to have any other take.
It’s not a failure but a disappointment…just like the title of the video says 🫵
They went to 4 Finals and 2 championships alot of franchises would take that in a heart beat.
Nah most organizations wouldn’t want to be involved in historic blowout losses in the finals. I believe they lost by the highest margin ever in a finals series. So no, most teams wouldn’t want that. Sounds like you want a LeBronze James Finals Participation Trophy to be created.
From 2010 until the 2015-16 season LBJ played on the most talented team in the NBA every year and won 3 out of 6 titles. Thats just okay.
Wade was top 3 at his position and so was Bosh.
Can you belive the form this team just because of Kobe bean Bryant they where that scare of him
Different conferences.
LeBron played 262 minutes in the 2011 NBA Final series. LeBron scored 107 points.
Jason Terry played 195 minutes in the 2011 NBA Final series. Jason Terry scored 108 points.
2 chips in 4 years a failure? What are we doing here?
Dog days of summer. Nothing to talk about for a month
Most of these superteams don't win anything. The Heat were a success.
Didn't Bron predict more than two titles?
Not 9 not 10 😅😅
Chill Rob winning two championship back to back is special.
How the hell is it a failure when they went to four finals and won two rings 💍💍? Jesus Christ
Because the should of won 3/4 championships because they had no business losing to Dallas
@@jakieresykes3644but how is that a failure?
@@soda8736 it’s a failure because of the expectation Lebron set for himself
@@jakieresykes3644it doesn’t matter if they lose to Dallas. 4 finals and 2 championship is successful. Anytime teams wins nba championships is success
Sometimes these sports pundits act like everybody can the championship or it’s easy to do it.
How many teams went to 4 straight finals though, that's gotta be special idk
This era is why lebron can never be the goat, or even better than kobe. Because even with a stacked deck he's not a guarantee to win
Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh is not a stacked deck LMAOOO
@@marianoortega6725 at that time!? You trippin
@@marianoortega6725 lmao yeah, thanks for proving his point.
@@Osei_Bean_8ryant LeBron stans are not basketball fans. They are delusional groupies who will throw mud on anyone to prop up his phony legacy. It will be interesting to watch this season unfold, that's for sure.
@@marianoortega6725it absolutely is especially when you include Ray Allen, Mike Miller, UD, Chalmers, etc. those teams were loaded! That's literally why LeBron did it to stack the deck in his favor. Been doing it ever since he left for Miami.
That Finals series of the Spurs vs the Heat was crazy, every game was a blowout going back and forth all the way to game 7, never seen before.
Boston's big 4 was a bigger disappointment. 5 years and only 1 ring.
Great point: and no one ever says that about them.
@@nostaljah19 Boston's 1 ring is what forced Lebron to join Miami. If that didn't happen Boston would have won 3. They would have beat Dallas in 2011 and OKC in 2012.
@@terrellbaker1660hell no
@@nav9867 Why not?
@@terrellbaker1660 they couldn’t even 2 rings, wat makes you think they win 3? Kobe and pau took them down, because of their superteam one was made in the same conference to stop them
I'm starting to love Rob's brazen honesty more and more!!
They act like it’s easy to win chips!! 🙄
LeBron thought so. He said not 1, not 2, not 3… did you not hear the audio? He really meant it too
They went to the finals every year…😂😂😂😂 y’all running outta topics
2011 Mavs had superior coaching and chemistry. Heat had better individual players. Yall dont respect ball
If Lebron is himself they easily beat Dallas
GET HIM ROB!!!!!! 😂
Yes it was a failure. They struggled against the San Antonio Spurs and Dallas Mavericks so stop it. They played a young Oklahoma City team the first finals. And they weren't old because Dwayne Wade played well in Chicago and LeBron won the bubble championship years later
Spurs were a mini dynasty, the Mavs were a better team. How are you comparing 2011 to 2020, thats a 9 year difference. D-Wade was old, there was a reason why he had no issue giving Lebron the reigns. The 2024 Mavs have two top players, the Celtics are a better team. it's not 5 vs 1 ball, the vast majority of the time the better "team" wins.
@@AilmanF2PNo they was not if Lebron doesn’t choke the easily beat Dallas
LeBalco Predicted 7 Rings so He Gets The Blame For Losing 2 Finals With a SuperTeam Heat Team! in 2011 He Folded Like a Cheap Lawn Chair Lmao
Its a failure because he said not 1 not 2 not 3 but 2.
Do your history dudes talk about 11’ but In 09’ Lebron lost to and AND1 player in 2013 he lost to 38 yr old Duncan and 18 year old Kahw by a record margin.
They went back to back and went to 4 straight finals 😂
Only 2 🏆 😂
They also said they would win like 9 lmfaooo
With the supposed best small forward ever in his prime and a top 5 shooting guard off all time and a power forward that was averaging 24 and 10 yeah it's a fail. They lost to Dallas man.
Won* he would be 1-3 if it weren’t for that lucky shot by ray 😂 boy stop it
@@BottingIsWhatIdo shot wasn't lucky what was unfortunate though was Ginobili and Kawhi missing their free throws.
NOT 1, NOT 2, NOT 3, NOT 4, NOT 5, NOT 6, NOT 7 and they end up 2-2? Yeah that’s a FAILURE! Why else would LeBRONZE🥉🥉JUMP SHIP? The KING 👑 of LOSE & RUN mode. It was a FAILURE and him RUNNING to the Cavs proves that. Plus they added Ray Allen who saved the Heat from losing 3 out of 4 championships when he hit that 3 after LeBRONZE🥉🥉missed a 3. Thanks Rob for always keeping it 💯
I think Chris is right. The disappointing part is that the team only lasted 4yrs. Injuries is what really got them in the end. That said, ask yourself a question. What core has only been together 4yrs, and achieved more than the Heatles? Shaq and Kobe were together twice as long, also went to four finals and only won one additional title.
Exactly
Injuries?? Wtf is this bronny talking?
These guys act like they don’t know wade was playin with no knees
Yeah but nobody called the lakers a super team. LeBron played with 3 other hall of fame players on the heat it was just Shaq and kobe plus good role players.
Show time Lakers too. Dominated the 80s. Heatles don't compare to showtime and Shaq and kobe and even KD and Steph,they could of won,heck they surely win had KD and Klay not got injured,so KD and steph would of three peat.
It was successful 4 finals and 2 championships. Failure is nets big 3, Suns big 3 and clippers
Just the fact that they had to come together to form the "heatles" disqualifies lebron from GOAT conversation. Weak. Imagine jordan joining teams with barkley and hakeem? Or kobe joining with duncan and AI?
Imagine LeBron having a front office and coach like Jordan and Kobe.
@@cooljohn6961
You mean the front office that dissembled a championship team, let Phil Jackson go and hired Tim Floyd? That one?
Steph got with KD it seemed unfair to the whole league. Bron gets with Dwade and Bosh and Ray Allen and One shot away from 1 ring.
If lebron didn’t 💩 the bed they would’ve went 4 for 4. If Ray Allen didn’t get that shot they would’ve only got 1 ring
I don’t know about the 4th because I don’t think that they would of beat that Spurs team again
LeBron said they’d win more than 7 championships. They only won two. That’s a failure when you stack a super team together!
If 4 straight trips to the finals while repeating (winning two) is a failure, then wtf are the Big 3 Nets, the Big 3 Suns, or the Clippers when Kawhi and PG clicked up?
They said they would win 9
Worse failures 😊
Disasters
27-game win streak too
What are looking for here? Those are also called failures
I wonder how many 3 peats Phil Jackson has??
Rob is the greatest
I hope that was a joke
As great as Skip Bayless lol
Not 2 not 3 not 4 etc LeBron was trying to recreate the 60s celtics run and failed
Did they forget Lebron came back from 3-1 against the most historic team , Lebron definitely has an historic team.
That Cavs team was historic! Dubs before KD were beatable, they just played a great team level of basketball.
Stop glazing LeJuice 🤡🤢🤮
The most historic team is the 96 bulls 😂
Rigged🥱
Warriors almost lost to the Thunder before they went against the Cavs and Steph numbers diminished as well. Warriors broke a regular season record but they weren't as tough as people made them to be.
He just can’t keep his mouth without throwing Durant in there but he failed to understand the ghost Lebron is battling is MJ with 6-0
It was a failure 100% the east was weak at the time and the Heat were stacked it wasnt only a big 3.
4 finals and 2 championships is successful anytime team wins nba championship is successful
If the East was so weak, why did no other team beat them to go to the finals?
@@Jalenlane93 im sorry but i cant believe what im reading.
@Jalenlane93
Because the Heat had 2 prime superstars, Bosh who was top 15 and Ray Allen 🤣
@@Mason_23 there is different levels, standards and expectations to each teams and players based on their roster + talent. Thats why the Heat run is considered a failure.
What is LeBron James skill set? Compared to Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant
When the hell did people start calling the heat the heatles....Chris Klutch Stop It!
He admitted and literally said he’s represented by Klutch Sports.
Probably when Chris said he was represented by Klutch.
When he confirmed his Clutch Sports affiliation and love for LeBron on the Odd Couple.
Rob was off that night.
@@justbudd1886 the interview he did with the person who was trying to discredit Michael Jordan’s DPOY award, right as the interview started. Go find it, listen, and come back.
@litany21 my bad i was typing to fast.... I mean calling the heat the heatles 🤣🤣🤣
The night the 2011 mavericks won the championship during Dirks press interview he said something that always stuck with me:
"No matter what.....no one can ever take this away"
Guys, this is what exactly what a hater like chris Broussard will attempt to do.
They will try and downplay your accomplishment.
They will try and gaslight you into acting like Dallas didn't beat Miami 6 out of the 8 times they played.
You will encounter haters like this your entire life.
Stop it Dallas winning that championship had more to do with Lebron not showing up
@@jakieresykes3644 the mavericks beat the Miami heat without their 2nd best player in Caron Butler.
The mavs were clearly a better team than the Miami Heat.
@@Damianoutlaw No they were not it’s a reason why Dallas was a clear cut underdog going into that series that’s why when it comes to that championship people don’t remember Dallas winning they remember Lebron choking
@@jakieresykes3644 great point…..that’s why 13 years later you are still talking about when the Mavs beat the heat in the 2011 Finals
@@Damianoutlaw people don’t remember that they remember Lebron Meltdown more than Dallas winning
LeBron was the dynasty himself 😂 8 straight trips to the finals. How are we bringing up team success in a GOAT debate.
Going the finals & winning the finals are two different things. Nobody is handing out participation awards 😂
@@SocomElite no one said it's the same thing kiddo. But belittling going to 8 straight Finals is petty work 😒
4-6 in the Finals?
2nd place ain't winning I forgot yall the participation generation
@@TonyThaDonhahah those 8 straight finals trips need to be explained in full context😂 the East was trash during that time, lebron took the competitive spirit out of it, once he started teaming up with top 2,5 caliber players in such weak conference and a stacked super team with a bunch of would be starters in other teams 😂😂 please. No one cares Jerry west made the finals almost as much, west only won 1 chip😂 no one cares about participation trophies 😂😂😂
Chris be talking crazy
Wade was great in the 2011 Finals. LeBron really cost him when you think about it.
Wade is an All Time great no doubt but I feel like he would be even higher on people's All Time list if he had that 2nd Finals MVP. The list of players that have 4 Championships+multiple Finals MVP's is very small.
2 Championships in 4 years is a success. Especially when the super teams nowadays can barley make it out the first round or even get on the court together.
Winning multiple championships is never a failure.
KD Warriors were waaaaaaaay more impressive!!!!!! Than the "Heatles"
The Spurs were eventually matched with them in 2013 and way way better in 2014
“Not 5, Not 6, not 7…” they failed. They went 2-2 in the finals with the most talent in the league. Lost against a Mavs team with Dirk and role players then an aging Spurs with pre all star Kawhi.
‘Broken down Dallas team’ that team swept Kobe and Pau and beat KD Russ Ibaka and Harden
If Lebron doesn’t Meltdown they easy beat that Dallas Mavericks team
When Chris said that's all KD won with Golden State and that was a better team. The conversation was over. That was the best rebuttal ive heard so far
The first year of the Heatles was the NBA analogy of the '04 Olympic team, they were too cocky and thought they could run thru anyone and didn't properly respect their opposition. 2012 and 13 was proper, but the way they got absolutely obliterated by the Spurs in 2014 was inexcusable. Losing to them is no huge fault, but how badly they were outplayed is, like I said earlier, inexcusable.
LeBron, on multiple occasions, admitted it was his fault they lost in 2011, so why TF does Chris feel the need to keep regurgitating the obvious?
I love when he made the comparison to Golden State. Knowing they had the better team and still won the same amount of championships.
LeBroussard at it again
These teams were top heavy and no bigs or point guards. In the moment, outside of the names, ppl didn't just pencil in the heat to win it every time
Lmaooo😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂 okay guy
Lebron penciled them in , not 1,2,3…… and when he said it, he really believed it 😂😂😂😂😂😂
That’s credit to him if he ain’t been on a all time great team 🤦🏻♂️💯
Think you’re missing his point.. that heat team should’ve been an all time team but isn’t looked at that way
@@timmartin2417honestly can't understand how that went over folks head 😭🤣
@@evileyevalaus when people think they have a point to make ….they ignore the obvious lol
@@timmartin2417 you ain't lying 😭🤣 definitely can't be called a failure but definitely a disappointment should've been looked at as a all time great team but those 2 finals losses are straight up embarrassing
I definitely believe it was a big failure that 2nd title was thanks to Greg popavich 😂
Its funny how nobody brings up their 2014 loss to the Spurs. No shame in losing to Pop/Duncan, but bro, they got gentleman swept and I never hear anyone holding it against them.
That Spurs team was firing on all cylinders. A lot of that had to do with choking 2013. They were pissed, and played great ball all year.
Considering how the last few super teams have gone, the heatles were a huge success. 4 straight finals wining 2
MJ would have never got beaten in the FINALS by a record margin😂
Or melted down like LeBron did against Dallas!
Jordan played weak teams in the Finals.
LeBron was scared to death to even catch the ball in the fourth. Little Jason Terry was talking s@#! to Bron and cracking him at the same time. 😂
They were lucky to get two the Spurs had the series won before Ray Allen hit that ridiculous 3....
How come no other group gets this type of expectation 🤔
I am so glad Rob is here to remind Chris the Objective Truth !!!! Stop the madness Brou, you're better than that!!
2011 Dallas went through Kobe, KD and LBJ.
Hell of a run but Kobe and the Lakers were coming off 3 finals u could see they were gassed , KD was 22 , but Bron and the Heat had no reason to lose to Dallas , they were all in their prime , Bron was coming off 2 MVPs , no excuses