@@3PieceTCG yea this is pretty spicy. 🌶️ I will say I have removed 1 mihawk.. so 2 sanjis 1 mihawk.. since you can sengoku for mihawk and you go through quite a bit of your deck it seems to work just fine. This allows for you to keep gravity blade in. (Will be needed for 8.5)
with a bkue black leader you could Sanji into Moria into Jinbe + Pudding 2k then Jinbe into Weevil or any 4c warlord. That play is 27 Don worth of cards
@@thebanman2293 this wouldn’t work. You could sanji into moria and get a 4 cost and a 2 cost from trash on board via Moria… but you need Doflamingos leader ability in order to 2k swing cheat 1 out.
@@RedHatPiratesTCG I'm pretty sure he means playing the 8c Gecko Moria to play out ST12 2cost Pudding card with 2k counter that can bounce itself to hand, not a 2k swing
@@StrawHatNick56 yea with this you’d be 100% dependent on putting Moria top deck via teach. But there definitely could be something here. Experiment with it. I’m curious of how consistently this could be pulled off.. but it would be nasty to do it.
@@Jay-rd6fe it doesn’t have to. You can use croc to push it to deck and follow that with a boa play or perona to push it back to set it up for a future turn. Works well. Have a 70% win rate in ranked sim play using it in high elo matches.
@@Jay-rd6fe yea you can def climb with odd decks. But the point I was making is you don’t need teach to utilize the play. Sometimes it’s already in the deck so you literally only need perona to filter it to where you need it.. and sometimes you have to teach it into place. Or if your teach is dead you use croc to do that. Also, if the opponent is focused on removing teach I personally wouldn’t mind.
@@Jay-rd6fe considering you can’t use teach in the west I’d agree they don’t use him yet.. and no one in the west is running under 4 peronas currently.
Hey bro, I love your decklist for 9.0, what changes would you make for 8.5? Isnt grav blade useful in this meta? Or do you consider this list to be ideal for 8.5?
@@AnonymousForPPL so do to the large amount of Doffy mirrors, and by Luffys for 8.5 I would put gravity blade in at 2 of. Drop the teach down to a 2 of… and then possibly drop the mihawk down to a 1 of. The other way you could tech it in is to make perfume a 1 of. Considering mihawk and perfume are searchable via sengoku these are both reasonable routes.
@@JakeHayes44 yea with this setup you still have 10 2ks. You can opt out of mihawk and go up to 12 2ks. Whereas then the play would be Sanji into Jinbe and cheat out (4 cost). And then if you have a 2nd jinbe you could teach him to top and cheat an additional (4 cost) card out leaving you with 5 on board. Also super effective, maybe even more effective.
@@RedHatPiratesTCG I like the teach combo and def think he has a place in the deck, I’ve tried sanji/mihawk and the stars have to align for that combo to work as you can see in your games here you’re winning from the primary engine of the build.
@@JakeHayes44 I agree definitely win most games off the primary engine of the deck. (Doffy is just strong) you just end most games without it being needed, however, it is honestly super easy to pull off in the deck. I do it super often. I wouldn’t run it if I felt it inconsistent. It feels really useful and has won me games into BY Luffy, Enel, Shanks. Edit - I have still been messing with the rates. To see if I can tech in a pudding or gravity blade (mainly for 8.5 meta). Teach at 2, Sanji at 2, Mihawk at 1 (since is sengoku searchable and you go through the deck decently it’s still viable) Opening up 2 spots. Here you can tech in either pudding or grav blade or additional 2ks.
@@haroldpanganiban338 in theory this sounds like a great play. But, you do have to have a way to effectively set this play up. I haven’t personally experimented with the zoro sanji deck, but it seems like this would be inconsistent here (where as doffy youre always restructuring top 5). So you’d need a way to put it in your deck which means you’d have to run some form of warlords package (croc/teach) and something to reorder top deck (perona,boa,buggy).
@@RedHatPiratesTCG thanks for the info, Im messing with zo/sanji but I just couldn’t find a right ratio and balance card, but I set it up once by the new 5c ace op08 on my 7don turn, the only thing is you have to have a zoro and sanji in hand,
@@haroldpanganiban338 oh ok yea that makes sense. Yea the ratios are rough here considering it’s harder to set up but simultaneously you don’t want to run to many of them as the bricks are heavy here lol. If sanji is really viable in the deck maybe run it as a 3 or 4 of.. (if you have other options on Sanji into x card) and then the zoro as a 1 of.
So here's the spicy sauce ayyye? Ggs boss
@@3PieceTCG yea this is pretty spicy. 🌶️
I will say I have removed 1 mihawk.. so 2 sanjis 1 mihawk.. since you can sengoku for mihawk and you go through quite a bit of your deck it seems to work just fine. This allows for you to keep gravity blade in. (Will be needed for 8.5)
with a bkue black leader you could Sanji into Moria into Jinbe + Pudding 2k then Jinbe into Weevil or any 4c warlord. That play is 27 Don worth of cards
@@thebanman2293 this wouldn’t work. You could sanji into moria and get a 4 cost and a 2 cost from trash on board via Moria… but you need Doflamingos leader ability in order to 2k swing cheat 1 out.
@@RedHatPiratesTCG I'm pretty sure he means playing the 8c Gecko Moria to play out ST12 2cost Pudding card with 2k counter that can bounce itself to hand, not a 2k swing
@@StrawHatNick56 oh ok, I gotcha. Makes more sense.
you could also search out the 8c Moria with Sengoku. While you don't have the Sanji synergy, I still think it's hilariously gross
@@StrawHatNick56 yea with this you’d be 100% dependent on putting Moria top deck via teach. But there definitely could be something here. Experiment with it. I’m curious of how consistently this could be pulled off.. but it would be nasty to do it.
sounds good in theory but in regionals that teach wont stick longer than 1 turn
@@Jay-rd6fe it doesn’t have to. You can use croc to push it to deck and follow that with a boa play or perona to push it back to set it up for a future turn.
Works well. Have a 70% win rate in ranked sim play using it in high elo matches.
@@RedHatPiratesTCG ranked sim is diffrent than true competitive tho a friend of mine is high ranked with meme decks like blue ace
@@Jay-rd6fe yea you can def climb with odd decks. But the point I was making is you don’t need teach to utilize the play. Sometimes it’s already in the deck so you literally only need perona to filter it to where you need it.. and sometimes you have to teach it into place. Or if your teach is dead you use croc to do that.
Also, if the opponent is focused on removing teach I personally wouldn’t mind.
@@RedHatPiratesTCG most top players only play 2 perona these days and 0 teach just saying
@@Jay-rd6fe considering you can’t use teach in the west I’d agree they don’t use him yet.. and no one in the west is running under 4 peronas currently.
Hey bro, I love your decklist for 9.0, what changes would you make for 8.5? Isnt grav blade useful in this meta? Or do you consider this list to be ideal for 8.5?
@@AnonymousForPPL so do to the large amount of Doffy mirrors, and by Luffys for 8.5 I would put gravity blade in at 2 of. Drop the teach down to a 2 of… and then possibly drop the mihawk down to a 1 of. The other way you could tech it in is to make perfume a 1 of. Considering mihawk and perfume are searchable via sengoku these are both reasonable routes.
Super interesting build the bricks concern me a bit haha
@@JakeHayes44 yea with this setup you still have 10 2ks.
You can opt out of mihawk and go up to 12 2ks.
Whereas then the play would be Sanji into Jinbe and cheat out (4 cost). And then if you have a 2nd jinbe you could teach him to top and cheat an additional (4 cost) card out leaving you with 5 on board. Also super effective, maybe even more effective.
@@RedHatPiratesTCG I like the teach combo and def think he has a place in the deck, I’ve tried sanji/mihawk and the stars have to align for that combo to work as you can see in your games here you’re winning from the primary engine of the build.
@@JakeHayes44 I agree definitely win most games off the primary engine of the deck. (Doffy is just strong) you just end most games without it being needed, however, it is honestly super easy to pull off in the deck. I do it super often. I wouldn’t run it if I felt it inconsistent. It feels really useful and has won me games into BY Luffy, Enel, Shanks.
Edit - I have still been messing with the rates. To see if I can tech in a pudding or gravity blade (mainly for 8.5 meta).
Teach at 2, Sanji at 2, Mihawk at 1 (since is sengoku searchable and you go through the deck decently it’s still viable) Opening up 2 spots. Here you can tech in either pudding or grav blade or additional 2ks.
@@RedHatPiratesTCG at this point in the game I feel like the fear of pudding is enough to force cards out of their hands lol
@@JakeHayes44 definitely agree. She can be super awesome into BY Luffy and Enel tho.
What is your thoughts with green bue zoro/sanji can set up 9csanji to cheat 9c zoro??
@@haroldpanganiban338 in theory this sounds like a great play. But, you do have to have a way to effectively set this play up. I haven’t personally experimented with the zoro sanji deck, but it seems like this would be inconsistent here (where as doffy youre always restructuring top 5).
So you’d need a way to put it in your deck which means you’d have to run some form of warlords package (croc/teach) and something to reorder top deck (perona,boa,buggy).
@@RedHatPiratesTCG thanks for the info, Im messing with zo/sanji but I just couldn’t find a right ratio and balance card, but I set it up once by the new 5c ace op08 on my 7don turn, the only thing is you have to have a zoro and sanji in hand,
@@haroldpanganiban338 oh ok yea that makes sense. Yea the ratios are rough here considering it’s harder to set up but simultaneously you don’t want to run to many of them as the bricks are heavy here lol.
If sanji is really viable in the deck maybe run it as a 3 or 4 of.. (if you have other options on Sanji into x card) and then the zoro as a 1 of.
@@RedHatPiratesTCG thanks appreciate, Ill try to solve more but its fun and amazing once you pull it off.
@@haroldpanganiban338 definitely. Let me know if you crack the code.