sorry to tell, but warwick even has a voiceline specifically towards vi about how she learned her punching technique from him. its not a theory, they left breadcrumbs everywhere
Not just her. His voice line for Jinx is "you were there" and "let me forget." In season 1, when silco has vander on the catwalk and he says "I'll show you what you really are" it plays the sting from WW's theme (the sound that plays when his blood hunt is triggered). Finally, when he's shimmer hulked, the growls he makes while fighting are literally WW's effort sounds and growls. Its as confirmed as it can possibly get.
So it is a theory. A theory is the best explanation we have for something, without it being confirmed. Until Vander is officially announced to be Warwick, it'll remain a theory.
I heard they didn't drop his name until pretty late to keep the surprise, that's pretty cool and thoughtful, but the subtitles kept showing "VIKTOR" from the beginning 🤣
@@MrGuybrush nah, in all the promotional stuff he was pretty openly Viktor- we knew from the start we'd be looking at his backstory. That said, given the ASDU cdoming up, I sus[ect he'll be verrry different
@@yuichirouka6722 I think it's a highly accurate theory since Singed said "I had a daughter once." to Silco. And he was looking at a photo of his daughter in the final ep. She had a bun just like Orianna.
The Two Masked Figures in the Adult Club 7:57 is a easter egg for a champ. The Kindred is a champion in League of Legends, They are the embodiment of death, A representation of death like the Grim Reaper. The two masked people at 7:57 are wearing the same masks. But its not the champ.
Correct -- I remember in a Necrit video there was some talk about how Kindred is known in every major culture of Runeterra, and is basically kind of folklore? Which would explain why these two individuals are wearing the masks representing Kindred.
Well if you're going to go that far... Teemo is in the little girl's book that the weird dude licked... Gragas was on the Shimmer on the ship..... and any number of NPC's in the background could have been LeBlanc :P
Riot announced that a champion that appears in Arcane will get a visual/lore update after the second season ends, and most people think it's Viktor. His in-game model and voice lines are very old, and while his lore was updated and he is rather consistent with how he is in Arcane, he sounds like a supervillain in his voice lines. There is also a WIP model for Arcane of Viktor looking... extremely not well, but they probably won't make him as robotic as he is in the game right now.
@@alphaxir1046 Me too, at first, but I believe they mentioned the lore being updated, as well. Singed looks terrible, but his lore is vague enough that he can stay the same. Viktor, at least for now, is going in a more magic-induced transmutation, as opposed to cybernetics. And that's without mentioning that people are guessing that the Hexcore is related to the Void, although I'm not sure I'm seeing it outside of the visuals.
Viktor's model is not that old compared to singed, and the lore problems you mentioned is also true for jayce, which probably wont get an asu. 99% sure singed will get the rework.
there was a theory that the little rat drank the purple poison (i dont remember which ep) then became a monster, that rat is Twitch which is also a champion
nah man twitch is also in arcane but like its probably that old friend of jinx and vi they meet while they are in the like bottom part of zaun cause of the hand movement and glasses, cause like if vander got turned into ww then that guy can surely also be caught by singed and get turned into twitch
@@sirtijedem The rat that drank the shimmer makes more sense. Mylo and Claggor were inside the burning building so I doubt Singed would've been able to take their bodies.
@@adoboflakes8473 not sure we are talking about the same guy but like the guy in the pits that they meet. His build is more less already there he is just not a rat-man yet
@@sirtijedem Oh you mean the guy Vander helped out? I just doubt that it'll be any person at all because Twitch was born rat which is why I think the rat that was given shimmer makes more sense.
There is one champion that I hope they introduce with season 2 called Renata Glasc. She is also a chem-baron like Silco but in the current lore, she is the most powerful and most influential chem-baron. Since Arcane happens in the past, hopefully we get to see her become as strong as she is currently.
Renata is Silco. After Arcane they wanted to bring Silco to League, but he didn't fit the existing ideas for the new champ enough - so they took Silco's background story (adjusted it a bit), continued the gameplay design as planned and called the mix of both Renata Glasc. hope you're not disappointed to hear this 🙂
yeah, i'm kinda sad because there's only 6 episodes left and i don't think we would have the time to see Renata, Oriana, Camille, Blitchcranc, Twitch, Zeri... there's a lot of champs from there. I Think Camile is the one who has more chances to apear since The Ferros Familie has had already a bit of screen time. Maybe Oriana but it's hard for me to see it happening
Singed is one of the most influencial characters in League. Never cared for him much until Arcane, and then it finally hit me all at once of just how many events, nations and character's lives are directly or indirectly affected(and effected) by him, his inventions, technology, etc. He has become one of the most interesting characters for me, especially after the way he is portrayed, especially considering the dichotomy of how he is Arcane and what he becomes by the time we see him in League....like its so strangly exciting. I will spare you any spoilers, just wish to impart a portion of my enthusiasm onto you to leave some room for my boi, there is so much more than meets the eye with this one.
Whoops, meant to add concerning League, playing it that is, just go for it if that's what's in you to do, I've been playing since a few months after launch, I have had my ups and downs and times I've had to step away until I learned my lesson, sometimes that was months, but I came back and make changes to my behavior and my own poor selfish performance, at least take in to consideration the ebb and flow of the game, and put into practice things I saw from watching Pro-games, and I found myself to enjoy the game til today, I think they may have lost their way a bit recently, but they love to take feedback and is a company that seems a lot closer to and more involved with its players, and really do, for the most part, really do their best to keep it that way, but I'm sure it's gotta be hard for them some days dealing with the constant whining from those that have become trapped and addicted to this game that they now hate. So if games aren't sinful to you, and you don't get addicted to things, you'll have a grand Ole time figuring things out and dying a LOT lol. I suggest going in blind, playing a bunch of games until you think you have a basic understanding and have played or experienced a fair number of champs, go watch a few pro games , like the World's semifinals to finals last year. (I'm sure you could do a react, World's was quite the event last year, incredible games) There you will learn a heck of a lot, and it will be interesting to see how it changes how you play any games further. But anyways, as a wise man once said, "People's peoples." Enjoy!
I feel the same way about Singed. He always has a habit of popping up, like during the Noxian invasion of Ionia. There's also something I'm very interested to see in season 2 about him. There's a scene where he is looking at a locket, and you can vaguely catch the image of his daughter. I'm not sure if you are aware of the tidbit, but there is a major spoiler about that which I'll be writing about next. ********* For years before Arcane, there was always a theory that Singed was Orianna's father. The theory became more concrete when lore for mostly all of piltover and zaunite characters such as Janna got retconned. Orianna's backstory and colour story detail how she became infected with a disease and later went into a coma. Her father, an Alchemist, started to gradually replace her failing organs with mechanical parts to save her until it got to a point where everything but her heart has been replaced by machinery. It's pretty close to Singed's current creations, and it's believed the reason he's been creating mutations (Warwick) and augments (Viktor, Urgot) in people is due to his now obsessive desire to reverse his daughter's condition and mechanical organs. When the scene of him in Arcane looking at an old picture of his now canon daughter, the lore community became invested in season 2 in hopes we finally get a direct link between the two. It would change Singed's character quite a lot to have an in depth story explaining his descent into madness because of his obsession in saving his daughter and the possible time limit of her imminent death if he fails
We, league players watch the show not for surprises, we watch it to see how exactly happened what we know of gamelore. There is so much more to Jayce and Victor's story, Ekko's, Katelyn's.. Many more characters from Piltover and Zaun are waiting to go on screen. To be honest, they really did change the lore for the show a bit. But not that much
That's awesome. Must feel nice that your main character in the game suddenly shows up in the show! I'm glad I watched it blindly without knowing anything about the lore or characters. It made it very entertaining and surprising. Thank you for watching! 😊
while yes, it's "just a theory" Warwick being Vander has such a massive amount of evidence and hints that it would be crazier to say he is not Vander. if you're interested in it, there are plenty of stuff to look into (his story and a lot of his VO tells what kind of person he was before he became a monster) BTW: they are not taking characters in a different direction, they have said many times in the past months that they are focusing on having a cohesive canon and won't be retconning stuff like they used to.
Part of me really wants Vander to just be put to rest and refuses to believe he will be a beast in season 2 🤣 He was my favorite character during the first 3 episodes and it broke my heart when he died. But oh well, excited to see what the future has to hold! I'm discovering so much cool stuff despite it being clear spoilers, I'm still excited to see it in the show!
@@MrGuybrush yea... i don't know why people can't see that it's a spoiler, i feel like it's on every youtube reaction or video. sorry if i spoiled you, i thought it was okay since he already had people telling him about the "theory".
@@Lunar_Leit Oh, you are fine, no worries. I watched the whole season 1 without a single spoiler and completely blind from LoL lore and now I'm willingly learning about the lore because I'm hyped for season 2!
There's also a speculation that Singed daughter could be Orianna, He mentions he too once had a daughter and he carries a locket. You see him looking at it in the same scene with Vander/Warwick.
The thing with Warwick being Vander. It's most likely true. When Jinx sees these "images" of everyone, when she sees Vander, you can see a wolf look-alike drawing appearing for a split second which also gives us confirmation about Vander being Warwick.
I 1000% believe that vander is experimented on and turnned into Warwick, mostly cause the sound bit they used for Vander when he was going nuts and attacking the other shimmered out buff bad guy when he took the shimmer too, it sounds just like the sound bit from the game that warwick uses.
I play league and part of the fun of watching arcane was what they did with the character concepts and a blank slate. We all know jinx is crazy and gun obsessed. However seeing her in an other light than just the gun crazy lady was refreshing. Arcane did a really good job reimagining the character. To me its also interesting to k ow who they are in league and how much they will resemble their characters at the end of the show and how they got there.
8:02 thats not a champion but an easter-egg, is Kinded which in the lore is the representation of the grim reaper, it has 2 entities, the lamb which represents a pacefull death (the white mask) and the wolf whch is a violent death which is the purple one, you can see more of this champ in their last cinematic called "Still here"
i belive there is a reason viktor doesnt have an arcane skin yet, sam goes for heimerdinger. their design in there ''champion mode'' havent been showed. like for viktor he have the claw, but he also need a scepter for his playstyle
5:05 for us, who played the game before the show, the surprise was the human form before warwick. Case we know WW from 10 years and he was only the green werewolf that sucks. And them, Arcane blow our minds.
That's so interesting to hear. We both watched the same show but with a totally different background! I had absolutely no clue about the lore or who anyone was. It was so cool to check out later on the champions! I bet there are many surprises for LoL players too!
3:41 the theory holds some credit as he has special interactions in game with Jinx and Vi, considering they also added these new lines around the time they did the Arcane update to add lines to some champions in there to tease the show, it kinda could hold a flame there. His backstory also sorta lines up. An ex thug from Zaun who turned his life around, but his past caught up with him and he wound up an experiment in Singed's lab. So it is likely honestly. That said, his lore is old, real old, and they have said Arcane takes precedence so they could overwrite it entirely, but so far it lines up pretty well.
There’s also a scene where Heimerdinger talks about how magic can go awry. It briefly shows a weird scene of magic and sand, and it’s highly implied he’s talking about what happened to Zilean, another champion in the game.
Guys ya'll forgot about Orianna?? PS: It would be cool if you try to predict future champions in the spinoffs. In general we all think the next show will be happening between the worlds of Noxus and Ionia
There are also 2 references to Teemo in the show. First one is in the arcade, Jinx is playing a teemo game, and later you can see teemo in the children book silko's henchman is reading. He seems to be some sort of legend or fairy tale character in arcane.
It's more that Teemo is the unofficial mascot of all of League of Legends. Teemo has appeared on more marketing across the globe than any other champion, by far. Riot pushes different champions to the front depending on what plays well with audiences tastes in different regions of the world. Except Teemo. Teemo is universal. There's something universal about his champion design that makes him play everywhere, which just reinforces Riot making sure there's an easter egg for him everywhere.
well now that we've seen arcane there are 2 new characters at least so far. Janna ( we saw her statue ) and Orianna (they introduced her as singed's daughter )
5:12 they cant, the y made the lore, they cant just change it. As you say people who play league and read the lore we alredy know what will happen with season 2 but we want to see it happening. Like we did with season 1 we alredy knew Vi and Jinx will become enemies. And we also know what will happend to viktor. If they change that i think people will get even more mad.
Riot confirmed that the League Viktor is the same Viktor as in Arcane. They even told us that he will get a redesign in the game based on his appearance in the show
Saying you hope they do something different because otherwise there's no surprise. As someone who played league of legends since the beta, without spoiling anything I'll just say this, everything is both very authentic and full of surprises.
Actually 5:12 as a league of legends player i will tell you WE DON'T WANT changes and suprises.. we want things we see in game, i want my boy Warwick to be warwick like in game, or Viktor like viktor and other, we dont like changes
That Mage from the show being Ryze is an interesting theory because we know for sure, that Ryze can teleport himself and others, which is what the mage did
If you haven't seen it already, I recommend watching "Kin of the Stained Blade." Awesome League cinematic and will have you wanting to dive into the lore even more..
"*Sinjd". In English, when an object is singed, it mean it is lightly burnt around the edges. If someone went to light a cigarette and their lighter flame is too high, the might singe their eyebrows.
the couple in the mask are the avatars of death (or atleast the mask depictions of them)the wolf which is a violent death and the sheep which is a peacful one. they are never seen and if they are it is not a good thing
Kindred, the Lamb and Wolf that you mention from the bar where Vi and Cait go to for catching up, the two person talking with the same mask as Kindred had, is not them, it's just that Kindred is the representation of Death or embodyment of Death itself. It just included in the animated series since Kindred Story is spread all through out Runeterra (World) you will end up being taken by Kindred if you die in Runeterra. In this show, Vi and Cait are on a suicide mission, so Kindred is there to teased that they could be taken by Kindred.
It's funny that you say that because that was the first thing I thought when I saw Jinx on Arcane with that rocket launcher haha "That must be her ultimate"
if you don't mind a bit of "spoilers", Riot Games announced Mother Medarda (Ambessa i think she's called?) is going to be a champion too. They also announced a visual and gameplay update for "an arcane champion", which most believe is going to be either Viktor or Singed.
Warwick is definitely vander i think there is a voice line in the game where he said he heard a girl crying when he was still human and that moment was when jinx crying out to vi to not leave her behind
They use Warwick's song in the teaser as well as in the 3rd episode of Arcane. It's highly implied that Vander is Warwick. Also, Ryze is definitely the mage that saves Jayce.
Ye ye lets scream so loudly about things that aren't true. Ryze isn't that mage. In LoR we can see that even when he was young, which was like more than 1000 years ago he had a blue skin. In Arcane that mage have pink human skin color. May be they will retcon his lore and change it so it'll line up, but for now, there is no any confirmation or even slightest hints from riot about that, so screaming so confident and missleading people, who will blidnly trust you because they dont know lore is just wrong.
@@Aaniel_al.Meara. Ryze was not always blue! His skin turned blue due to the prolonged exposure to world runes, this is both confirmed in the Ruination novel and the Young Ryze skin. I doubt they would change anything about Ryze's lore at this point as he is very fundamental for the world. That being said I agree that it probably isnt Ryze. 1. The mage wasn't blue 2. I can't imagine Ryze ever giving away any kinda rune-like magic to a random kid. If it HAS to be someone from the games I guess Zilean would probably be the only semi-viable option? Obviously it aint him either tho
@@Aaniel_al.Meara. Who is screaming? Chill. There is no other mage like this in LoL lore, he uses rune magic and teleportation. it's clearly a ryze easter egg. idk why you would even argue against this.
nobody mentioned that Orianna (Singed's daughter) is also a champ. She probably won't be in arcane but it is shown on Singed's locket he keeps watching all the time.
Although he does not specificly feature in Arcane, there's another champion that's connected to the events and locations of the plot, and maybe even hinted: Twitch. Twitch is a monstrous evil humanoid rat from Zaun, whose main theme revolves around the use of poison. One of the few possibl explanations of how such little monster might have come to exist is by being a common gutter rat mutated by exposure to weird chemicals or experimented on. AND... we DO see Singed test the shimmer on a rat at the end of the very first chapter of the series, increasing its size, strength and aggressive instincts. Coincidence? I think... maybe.
the mage in jayce flashback might be tarric, location seems to be targon and tarric use gems as catalyst for his powers, also the typical good guys that helps people on the way up to targon, so would make sense to me.
It’s not a theory, Warwick is Vander. I knew the moment he took shimmer in episode 3. His nickname in the show along with some certain voicelines in the game itself confirm it.
@@MrGuybrush Lol yeah, the lore in the game will be kept so none of that will surprise old players of the game. The events themselves have been mostly untold, it’s the details of how the characters got to where they are in the game that keeps us surprised.
If you want to see more about Warwick, check out the following two trailers: * Warwick: The Wrath of Zaun | Champion Teaser - League of Legends * Eye of the Beast | Warwick Champion Trailer - League of Legends: Wild Rift The first teaser was from when they did a major update/rework to Warwick in 2017, while the second trailer is from when he was added to Wild Rift in 2022 (Wild Rift is the mobile version of League of Legends). Some other notable Arcane related League cinematics/trailers are: * "Get Jinxed (ft. Djerv) | Official Music Video - League of Legends" - Jinx's Champion Theme Song when she was first released back in 2013, which was actually used in Episode 4 of Arcane. * "Vi, the Piltover Enforcer | Login Screen (ft. Nicki Taylor) - League of Legends" - Vi's Champion Theme Song * "Caitlyn, The Sheriff of Piltover | Champion Theme - League of Legends" - Caitlyn's Champion Theme Song * "Warriors | Season 2020 Cinematic - League of Legends (ft. 2WEI and Edda Hayes)" - a couple of familiar characters will appear in this cinematic. * "Ekko: Seconds | New Champion Teaser - League of Legends" - Ekko's cinematic from when he was released in 2015
the whole theory with ryze also stems from the fact that one of his abilities, his ultimate, allows his to teleport himself and allies to another par of the map much like the mage in arcane does. of course still not confirmed but still a good theory
So it's a more or less solid theory that Ryze was the Mage that saved Jayce and his mother in the Flashback, and also its theorized, that Singed might have been in the Piltovan Academy. Heimerdinger tells Jayce about an extraordinary inventer, that had to go for his crucial experiments, when the stand in front of a staue in the Academy in a scene.
I think it's the only real possibility we have on hand. But to me, it doesn't make sense since Ryze's entire story is about trying to keep this magic out of the hands of other people. Locking away the runes and preventing the very things that Heimerdinger witnessed and warns about. But at the same time, they're already revamping a lot of things for Arcane's story to become Canon, so I can 100% see them altering Ryze's motives and backstory, too.
by lore, Viktor is constantly changing his damaged organs for hextech or quimtech machines to keep him alive. He also tries to save as many Zaunits as he can, remember the air is kinda poisonous down there. I also hope the writers of the show be gentle with him but he is already on the verge of death so yeah lest not have that much hope :c And also they didn't hesistate to destroy me in a spiritual level in every single arc of the show so yeah. My boy is gonna suffer
if u want to see more the world do some lol cinematic reactions plz :PP ..i recomend for the start "warrior" "awaken" "the call" "still here". Those are the most popular and its good content, people will watch.
First of all, I haven’t watched Arcane Season 2 yet, but as a former League of Legends player, I can confidently say that Vander is indeed Warwick. If you play as Warwick and encounter Jinx (Powder), Vi (Violet), or Singed, Warwick’s voice lines strongly hint at this connection. Secondly, the Viktor we see in Arcane is the same Viktor from the game, but the show portrays him much earlier in his timeline. For instance, if he’s around 30 years old in the show, think of him as being in his 40s or even close to 50 in the game. Thirdly, the Ryze we see isn’t directly connected to the Arcane series. His story is based on a different League of Legends lore source. Ryze is narratively connected to Kalista, Viego, Gwen, and Hecarim in League of Legends lore as cald ruined king
their is more to warwick being vander wrwicks story mentions he only remembers a small girls crying and warwicks music tune plays when vanders on screen plus warwicks lore states he was a gang leader who tried escape his past and be a good person for his comunity but his past cought up to him aka silko catching up to him
The suspicion is that there will be an Arcane Viktor skin and something along the lines of Monstrosity Warwick resembling Vander. But they are indeed spoilers for the 2nd season. There is a high chance the mage in the series was Ryze as he is the only mage known to teleport people (his ultimate skill)
The arcane series is telling the story of the champions, we don't know about their past, but the champions are their future, understand? Everyone who knows the champion's lore knows what the character will become in the future, we just want to know what their past was like
Ryze is totally the mage from the show because of the runes in the magic and the hability and creating teleport portals in his skills. About warwick being Vander, in one site of lore-heavy content, it's said that the only memory from before the transformation is a "sea of fire and a girl crying and calling him", that is exactly what happens in the s1e3 of the show.
No he is not. The simpliest debunk I'll use for your *theory* is a skin color. In one of the art works in LoR we can see that even when Ryze was just a child\teen (which was more than a 1000 years before events we saw in Arcane) he already had a violet skin, mage in Arcane didn't had a violet skin color. So just stop spreading missinformation based on your crappy theories like it is confirmed info. Plus Ryze's channel of teleport is completely differnt, which we saw in his cinematic. He can do it just at will, he doesnt need to channel it with some stick and runes.
Ryze is the mage, I agree. Idk why so many people are so fervently against this being true. Plenty of things in Arcane aren't exactly the same as in LoL. Why would they show a rune mage that uses teleportation and NOT make it Ryze? It's an easter egg. It's not that hard to understand.
@Nicitel96 yeah, cus the itens in league of legends like saphire crystal are just in the game, and it's not like ryze in the game don't uses any mana item at all. They didn't change anything in characters visual that apeared in the game, just all the f ones that received an ARCANE VERSION SKIN. Now the gray-ish blue-ish mage using rune-sigils like those that aperers in all but one skills from ryze is so obviously not him that you spawn from the sewers of the internet just to get on my nerv. If i'm not using my brain, at least i don't have a dump on it's place like you. Fing troll.
@@Aaniel_al.Meara. I was mistaken on some theories before, and sometimes i've even went to aknowlodge it. I i guess i was never so useless as to go looking into the comment section to be an ass (but at least you were not as agressive as idiot above you, and I respect that) . To your debunks i'll just say that it wouldn't be the first time riot changes slightly characters apearences from one media to the next. Specially because only this year riot gave any information about trying to make a consistent canone with all the videos, comics and short stories. Also if you read the shortstories about ryze and his travels, you should know how he travels and how he behaves (at least until the brand incident). It matches. So until any official confirmation or denial from riot, I would keep the tone of this argument down. Oh a little thing about the warp on the "call of power" cinematic he just warps himself, while on the unconfirmed apearence in the arcane episode he does an area warp, like the ultimate, with the windup and all.
If players didnt connect the dots in episode 1 that vander is warwick they sure did in episode 3 when vander let out his warwick growls and screams after he was injected with all the shimmer. He also took the warwick stances from the first ww trailer ^^
Now that season 2 is out, I can say that Singed is responsible for creating or influencing the creation of multiple champions from piltover/zaun. Itty bitty screen time, lots of plot relevance.
And what about Jhin guys ? I'm pretty sure he's the violonist at the opera scene. Even Ray Chen, the musician acting for the serie, is making few video about Jhin in his channel.
Orianna could also possibly be a Champion that could come in season 2. At the end of the last episode we see Singed looking at a necklace with a picture of a young girl in it. Probably his daughter, since he said he had a daughter. The girl in the picture looks almost the same as the Champion Orianna. Although her story is very different in the lore, Singed was not her father. In the lore her father was Corin Reveck.
Riot already said arcane lore is now league lore they merge the worlds together. Been playing league since 2016 happy about some of the changes sad about others but majority we already knew based on lore
The picture is kindred that you asked about the rat that sibged tested on is twitch camile is aparently in there somewhere because riot said so but i guess she was in the background somewhere uhhhh i cant think of anyone else
So riot from the launch of arcane, has stated that everything released in arcane, the next season, and in game lore, is going to be Cannon. So sadly, writers won't go a different direction. Like with singed and Viktor, they are showing their origins, so expect that of Warwick aka Vander.
I just noticed that in-game ability spotlight of Warwick shows him attacking Signed 0-0 That spotlight is really old, did they have this plan all along?
Arcane is fully canon now, so they kind of have to make the characetrs end up like the champions we see, so they can't really make Warwick not be a werewolf anymore, and they can't really change what Viktor becomes.
Also last thing to note all characters in peague are cannon. They will only change slightly for the show nothing massive to where there not the same charactet. So any character you see in that roster is very very close to how they will be in the shows in the future. Season2 wraps up vi and jinx story and it will probably move to jayce and viktor becoming enemies in the next season. Idk where its going from there. Theres 5 other factions they can delve into that i feel they should go into like garen lux and sylas story line
just as an fyi there are a lot more champions that are speculated to be in arcane/mentioned in it but they play a very minor role if at all in s1 "twitch" has 1 of 2 current theories as to who it could be 1st theory ppl have is the rat that escaped in act 1 of the series from the lab that was drugged with shimmer. the 2nd theory is that the toxic air in Zaun mutates the one major shimmer addict (the one that sells out vi and cait) is later on experimented by signed and turned into Twitch through cross experimentations. another speculation is that the girl in the locket that singed has towards the ending of the series is meant to be "Oriana" her story would need to be updated a bit but that's about it finally there's a champion unrelated to Piltover or Zaun that was presumably mentioned by Ambessa during her flashback with Mel that champion the Noxian Warlord that overthrew his government is meant to be "Swain" but again these are only minor speculations that can't be elaborated as of yet. Also there are some items in the game that are based around Piltover and Zaun the main one that you'll probably recognise is "Turbo Chemtank" (though that item has been recently removed for balance reasons). Also the reason why the WW fantheory is pretty much confirmed has to do with a lot of different circumstances there's the way ppl nicknamed vander as well as no other characters even close in shape to the body hanging in singeds lab at the end. the image is also practically directly ripped off of league of legends universe page (a page for different stories of the champions) that story being titled "engeneering a nightmare" and it stars viktor and warwick. then there's the new voicelines that were added to warwick after arcane released
That Viktor you see in league is not made of steel like it suggests, he just has a helmet on. However he did operate on himself to removes his emotions because they were an obstacle on his research. That was the old lore though, it was different from arcane, it involved Jayce and Viktor being "rivals" on the Piltover Academy, and Jayce was an egotistical genius but couldn't work with anyone because no one tolerated his character. I invite you to read both Jayce's and Viktor's bios one after another, since at the end both bios tell the same story but from both views. On jayce's bio Viktor ends up as a villain, but on Viktor's bio we learn that he was trying to help zaunites from a chemical spill accident until Jayce arrived and when Viktor tried to explain what was he doing Jayce was already blasting the place down. Would be a good video for a "champion bio reaction", a lot of arcane fans continue league content by reacting to champions individually
yeah, they can do small changes BUT altough Arcane started as an alternate universe for LoL, riot decided to made it cannon... and as cannon, they can't do big changes cause they are bounded ('cause arcane is the past off the LoL, that's why in the first video Jayce looked older, 'cause he IS older.. arcane is the past) and for the two girls with masks, they aren't champions per say, but their MASKS represents a champion (the Champion is Kindred, a Sheep and a Wolf, yes two entities in one champ, they use those maks and they are the representation of Death in the LoL universe)
In case you want to react to more champs kinda related to Arcane because they're from Zaun or Piltover (or they just reside in that places actually) , that doesn't mean all of them are gonna to appear in arcane 2: Zaun: Ziggs Janna Urgot Dr. Mundo Zeri Twitch Renata Zac Biltzcrank Piltover: Camille Orianna Ezreal Seraphine Corki And also just a curious fact, Silco was an exclusive champion from TFT , another game from Riot
Doubt it all you want. Vander is Warwick. It's a sort of thing where the only reason it's not fully confirmed is because they are letting non LoL players find it out themselves, while LoL players are 'in on the secret' so to speak. Or in some cases... people tell you guys the secret. As for Ryze, there is legitimately nothing suggesting the mage at the start of Arcane was Ryze. People just go 'that guy uses magic, so does Ryze' and that's their only reason to believe it. Arcane isa show that, for League of Legends players, everyone wanted to see their favorite characters. And Ryze is a favorite of a lot of people, so naturally, they look for any opportunity to suggest that a character was him. 8:00 That's not a champion. It's not even technically a reference but I suppose you could call it one. Kindred is the God of Death to many parts of the world, so it's only natural people would in fact have symbols of it, which is the masks they wear. Of course it is saying 'Hey, Kindred is a thing' so that's why it's a reference, but at the same time, it is naturally something you would see in the world. It's the same as someone wearing a cross around their neck in real life. Nobody is gonna point at that and go "Look! It's a reference to Jesus!" But to be clear, the masks they are wearing represent Kindred, the God of Death who is represented by a Wolf (The dark mask), and a Lamb (The light mask). It represents the two sides to death, Lamb who hunts those with her bow, taking those who embrace their end willingly. And Wolf, who chases those who try and defy their death. But those character there are not Kindred, they're just wearing masks representing a God they believe in. And Kindred is a playable Champion.
Honestly for lore nerds like myself who know the outcome, its more about the process to get there. I knew Viktor would start with good intentions. I knew Vi/Jinx had it tough on the streets. How they get to where they are now is just as important. Side note you probably should have viewed the abilities (although some may be spoilers a bit). Just because heimerdinger is a "mage" doesnt mean he is not a tinkerer. It just means he is very ability focused to do what he needs to. Marksman is what most ranged champions are referred to as. Its a common theme for piltover/zaun to derive alot of their abilities from technology.
sorry to tell, but warwick even has a voiceline specifically towards vi about how she learned her punching technique from him.
its not a theory, they left breadcrumbs everywhere
a great scene of "show dont tell"
And when Vander killed the shimmered up street thug guy, it was Warwick's basic attack growls.
Not just her. His voice line for Jinx is "you were there" and "let me forget." In season 1, when silco has vander on the catwalk and he says "I'll show you what you really are" it plays the sting from WW's theme (the sound that plays when his blood hunt is triggered). Finally, when he's shimmer hulked, the growls he makes while fighting are literally WW's effort sounds and growls. Its as confirmed as it can possibly get.
So it is a theory. A theory is the best explanation we have for something, without it being confirmed. Until Vander is officially announced to be Warwick, it'll remain a theory.
@@2centschange It could also be perfect misdirection 🤡.
I believe we hear all the way back in episode 1 that Vander's nickname is "The Hound of the Underground"
There's also a moment on the bridge in the factory in episode 2-3 where you can kinda hear Warwick's theme music.
you could imagine our surprise seeing Viktor as a human he has already been a machine the whole time we were reading lore and playing the game lol
I heard they didn't drop his name until pretty late to keep the surprise, that's pretty cool and thoughtful, but the subtitles kept showing "VIKTOR" from the beginning 🤣
@@MrGuybrush yea stupid subtitles 🤣🤣
@@MrGuybrush nah, in all the promotional stuff he was pretty openly Viktor- we knew from the start we'd be looking at his backstory.
That said, given the ASDU cdoming up, I sus[ect he'll be verrry different
ifi you want check in game interactions between Vi, Warwick and Jinx, the sentences they tell each other definetely suggest that vander is warwick
Oh, that is interesting! I will have to take a look at that 👀
@@MrGuybrushRiot Games Lore Universes
1# Arcane_Legends of Runeterra_Riot Forge_League of legends Universe Site_Full Canon Skins.
2# Non Canon lore Skins like: Project, Star Guardians,..
3# Valorant
@@MrGuybrush Warwick to VI: "Who taught you to punch?!?" Warwick to Jinx: "You were there, let me forget."
@@adriankuban2904 there's also the potential canon skins things like "dark ice vel'koz" and the old man yasuo skin
@@LIAuNXeNON That's what I was saying. Spirit blossom, Sentinels of Light, ruined, Spirit guard Udyr,...
Also, a champion called Blitzcrank (one of Viktor's invetions) is being foreshadowed in series of dialogues between Viktor and Jayce ("crank it").
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stop spoiling him the show bruh
There's also Orianna! Singed made her based of of his deceased daughter.
@@hielyr it's not proven yet
@@yuichirouka6722 I think it's a highly accurate theory since Singed said "I had a daughter once." to Silco. And he was looking at a photo of his daughter in the final ep. She had a bun just like Orianna.
The Two Masked Figures in the Adult Club 7:57 is a easter egg for a champ.
The Kindred is a champion in League of Legends, They are the embodiment of death, A representation of death like the Grim Reaper.
The two masked people at 7:57 are wearing the same masks. But its not the champ.
@@sapphire_raven your reading comprehension is crazy
Correct -- I remember in a Necrit video there was some talk about how Kindred is known in every major culture of Runeterra, and is basically kind of folklore? Which would explain why these two individuals are wearing the masks representing Kindred.
Well if you're going to go that far... Teemo is in the little girl's book that the weird dude licked... Gragas was on the Shimmer on the ship..... and any number of NPC's in the background could have been LeBlanc :P
Riot announced that a champion that appears in Arcane will get a visual/lore update after the second season ends, and most people think it's Viktor. His in-game model and voice lines are very old, and while his lore was updated and he is rather consistent with how he is in Arcane, he sounds like a supervillain in his voice lines. There is also a WIP model for Arcane of Viktor looking... extremely not well, but they probably won't make him as robotic as he is in the game right now.
i assumed the visual update would be singed because he's super out of date
@@alphaxir1046 i mean he is one of starting champions league had and 1st designed
@@alphaxir1046 Me too, at first, but I believe they mentioned the lore being updated, as well. Singed looks terrible, but his lore is vague enough that he can stay the same. Viktor, at least for now, is going in a more magic-induced transmutation, as opposed to cybernetics. And that's without mentioning that people are guessing that the Hexcore is related to the Void, although I'm not sure I'm seeing it outside of the visuals.
Viktor's model is not that old compared to singed, and the lore problems you mentioned is also true for jayce, which probably wont get an asu. 99% sure singed will get the rework.
@@boranates1320 Watch it be Heimerdinger, but they gave him a Firelight costume and he only talks about how much he hates Hextech now.
Inside the game league of legends, when Warwick comes near to Vi, he says ''that's not how I tought you to fight'' or smth like that so yeah, it's him
He asked her who tought her how to fight, like he still has some faint memories from his old self
@@riccardomosena4162 thanks for the correction !
there was a theory that the little rat drank the purple poison (i dont remember which ep) then became a monster, that rat is Twitch which is also a champion
hahaha I never thought of it that way
nah man twitch is also in arcane but like its probably that old friend of jinx and vi they meet while they are in the like bottom part of zaun cause of the hand movement and glasses, cause like if vander got turned into ww then that guy can surely also be caught by singed and get turned into twitch
@@sirtijedem The rat that drank the shimmer makes more sense. Mylo and Claggor were inside the burning building so I doubt Singed would've been able to take their bodies.
@@adoboflakes8473 not sure we are talking about the same guy but like the guy in the pits that they meet. His build is more less already there he is just not a rat-man yet
@@sirtijedem Oh you mean the guy Vander helped out? I just doubt that it'll be any person at all because Twitch was born rat which is why I think the rat that was given shimmer makes more sense.
There is one champion that I hope they introduce with season 2 called Renata Glasc. She is also a chem-baron like Silco but in the current lore, she is the most powerful and most influential chem-baron. Since Arcane happens in the past, hopefully we get to see her become as strong as she is currently.
Renata is Silco. After Arcane they wanted to bring Silco to League, but he didn't fit the existing ideas for the new champ enough - so they took Silco's background story (adjusted it a bit), continued the gameplay design as planned and called the mix of both Renata Glasc. hope you're not disappointed to hear this 🙂
@@Sabo_538 Well, it doesn't matter. Even though Renata is based off Silco, they are still separate characters in the lore.
@@frozenduck23 And arcane is part of the new cannon so, Renata will be a different character in the show if she appears
yeah, i'm kinda sad because there's only 6 episodes left and i don't think we would have the time to see Renata, Oriana, Camille, Blitchcranc, Twitch, Zeri... there's a lot of champs from there. I Think Camile is the one who has more chances to apear since The Ferros Familie has had already a bit of screen time. Maybe Oriana but it's hard for me to see it happening
Singed is one of the most influencial characters in League. Never cared for him much until Arcane, and then it finally hit me all at once of just how many events, nations and character's lives are directly or indirectly affected(and effected) by him, his inventions, technology, etc. He has become one of the most interesting characters for me, especially after the way he is portrayed, especially considering the dichotomy of how he is Arcane and what he becomes by the time we see him in League....like its so strangly exciting. I will spare you any spoilers, just wish to impart a portion of my enthusiasm onto you to leave some room for my boi, there is so much more than meets the eye with this one.
Whoops, meant to add concerning League, playing it that is, just go for it if that's what's in you to do, I've been playing since a few months after launch, I have had my ups and downs and times I've had to step away until I learned my lesson, sometimes that was months, but I came back and make changes to my behavior and my own poor selfish performance, at least take in to consideration the ebb and flow of the game, and put into practice things I saw from watching Pro-games, and I found myself to enjoy the game til today, I think they may have lost their way a bit recently, but they love to take feedback and is a company that seems a lot closer to and more involved with its players, and really do, for the most part, really do their best to keep it that way, but I'm sure it's gotta be hard for them some days dealing with the constant whining from those that have become trapped and addicted to this game that they now hate. So if games aren't sinful to you, and you don't get addicted to things, you'll have a grand Ole time figuring things out and dying a LOT lol. I suggest going in blind, playing a bunch of games until you think you have a basic understanding and have played or experienced a fair number of champs, go watch a few pro games , like the World's semifinals to finals last year. (I'm sure you could do a react, World's was quite the event last year, incredible games) There you will learn a heck of a lot, and it will be interesting to see how it changes how you play any games further.
But anyways, as a wise man once said, "People's peoples." Enjoy!
I feel the same way about Singed. He always has a habit of popping up, like during the Noxian invasion of Ionia. There's also something I'm very interested to see in season 2 about him. There's a scene where he is looking at a locket, and you can vaguely catch the image of his daughter. I'm not sure if you are aware of the tidbit, but there is a major spoiler about that which I'll be writing about next.
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For years before Arcane, there was always a theory that Singed was Orianna's father. The theory became more concrete when lore for mostly all of piltover and zaunite characters such as Janna got retconned. Orianna's backstory and colour story detail how she became infected with a disease and later went into a coma. Her father, an Alchemist, started to gradually replace her failing organs with mechanical parts to save her until it got to a point where everything but her heart has been replaced by machinery. It's pretty close to Singed's current creations, and it's believed the reason he's been creating mutations (Warwick) and augments (Viktor, Urgot) in people is due to his now obsessive desire to reverse his daughter's condition and mechanical organs. When the scene of him in Arcane looking at an old picture of his now canon daughter, the lore community became invested in season 2 in hopes we finally get a direct link between the two. It would change Singed's character quite a lot to have an in depth story explaining his descent into madness because of his obsession in saving his daughter and the possible time limit of her imminent death if he fails
You should check the champions voice lines, Warwick specially, you'll find that all your predictions are going straight to the core
3:44 this aged well. ^^’
It was pretty much confirmed in Season 1 episode 3 that Vander will 100% be Warwick.
mate, act 2 is already out
Singed and Heimer are related, they actually say it in Arcane, they worked togheter in the past, just like Viktor and Jayce
that doesnt mean they are related just means they knew eachother and maybe where friends
We, league players watch the show not for surprises, we watch it to see how exactly happened what we know of gamelore.
There is so much more to Jayce and Victor's story, Ekko's, Katelyn's.. Many more characters from Piltover and Zaun are waiting to go on screen.
To be honest, they really did change the lore for the show a bit. But not that much
That's awesome. Must feel nice that your main character in the game suddenly shows up in the show! I'm glad I watched it blindly without knowing anything about the lore or characters. It made it very entertaining and surprising.
Thank you for watching! 😊
They changed it A LOT, what are you talking about? Also, we didn't know anything about the past of Vi and Jinx, so it was definitely a surprise.
*Caitlyn
@@Shythalia Right
while yes, it's "just a theory" Warwick being Vander has such a massive amount of evidence and hints that it would be crazier to say he is not Vander.
if you're interested in it, there are plenty of stuff to look into (his story and a lot of his VO tells what kind of person he was before he became a monster)
BTW: they are not taking characters in a different direction, they have said many times in the past months that they are focusing on having a cohesive canon and won't be retconning stuff like they used to.
Part of me really wants Vander to just be put to rest and refuses to believe he will be a beast in season 2 🤣 He was my favorite character during the first 3 episodes and it broke my heart when he died. But oh well, excited to see what the future has to hold! I'm discovering so much cool stuff despite it being clear spoilers, I'm still excited to see it in the show!
@@MrGuybrush yea... i don't know why people can't see that it's a spoiler, i feel like it's on every youtube reaction or video. sorry if i spoiled you, i thought it was okay since he already had people telling him about the "theory".
@@Lunar_Leit Oh, you are fine, no worries. I watched the whole season 1 without a single spoiler and completely blind from LoL lore and now I'm willingly learning about the lore because I'm hyped for season 2!
I mean, it looks like they're retconning the whole 'Piltover harvesting the Brackern for hextech' thing. :(
@@Shythalia yea that came with what i'm talking about. they obviously have areas to sort out where Arcane clashes with the original lore.
There's also a speculation that Singed daughter could be Orianna, He mentions he too once had a daughter and he carries a locket. You see him looking at it in the same scene with Vander/Warwick.
“Writers fo in difernt direction” oh boy bad orediction therd
The thing with Warwick being Vander. It's most likely true. When Jinx sees these "images" of everyone, when she sees Vander, you can see a wolf look-alike drawing appearing for a split second which also gives us confirmation about Vander being Warwick.
I 1000% believe that vander is experimented on and turnned into Warwick, mostly cause the sound bit they used for Vander when he was going nuts and attacking the other shimmered out buff bad guy when he took the shimmer too, it sounds just like the sound bit from the game that warwick uses.
I play league and part of the fun of watching arcane was what they did with the character concepts and a blank slate.
We all know jinx is crazy and gun obsessed. However seeing her in an other light than just the gun crazy lady was refreshing.
Arcane did a really good job reimagining the character.
To me its also interesting to k ow who they are in league and how much they will resemble their characters at the end of the show and how they got there.
As a fan of LoL I WANT to see Singed turning Vander into Warwick. No, I NEED to see it. Even if it is no surprise.
8:02 thats not a champion but an easter-egg, is Kinded which in the lore is the representation of the grim reaper, it has 2 entities, the lamb which represents a pacefull death (the white mask) and the wolf whch is a violent death which is the purple one, you can see more of this champ in their last cinematic called "Still here"
"the green reaper" xD bro kill the trees instead of peoples
I think you got it wrong, the black mask is lambs mask and the white one is the wolf mask
@@aurelemacaigne9414 hahaha my bad, not my first or second language tho 🤣😅
@@aurelemacaigne9414 no no the white is the lamb for sure
@@ESP_Blinks no, lamb is white but has a black mask, and wolf is black but has a white mask
love your channel, thanks for learning about the lore!!
Thank you so much! That means a lot to me 😊
So, did your heart break yet?
Damn bro😢
i belive there is a reason viktor doesnt have an arcane skin yet, sam goes for heimerdinger. their design in there ''champion mode'' havent been showed. like for viktor he have the claw, but he also need a scepter for his playstyle
5:05 for us, who played the game before the show, the surprise was the human form before warwick. Case we know WW from 10 years and he was only the green werewolf that sucks. And them, Arcane blow our minds.
That's so interesting to hear. We both watched the same show but with a totally different background! I had absolutely no clue about the lore or who anyone was. It was so cool to check out later on the champions! I bet there are many surprises for LoL players too!
It is amazing delving down Warwick's details and his handful of voice lines (particularly his interactions with Vi) and going "oh, yep, that's Vander"
3:41 the theory holds some credit as he has special interactions in game with Jinx and Vi, considering they also added these new lines around the time they did the Arcane update to add lines to some champions in there to tease the show, it kinda could hold a flame there. His backstory also sorta lines up. An ex thug from Zaun who turned his life around, but his past caught up with him and he wound up an experiment in Singed's lab. So it is likely honestly.
That said, his lore is old, real old, and they have said Arcane takes precedence so they could overwrite it entirely, but so far it lines up pretty well.
singed's stories are some of the darkest in league lore (lore of runeterra)
There’s also a scene where Heimerdinger talks about how magic can go awry. It briefly shows a weird scene of magic and sand, and it’s highly implied he’s talking about what happened to Zilean, another champion in the game.
No, Zilean get trfumatized by Icathia people summon Void, that was long before Rune War (that what Heim see)
I've just now seen this video and didn't know Tulio from the Road to El Dorado did TH-cam
tbh the main thing that connects game viktor to show victor is that in the lore, jayce and viktor are rivals who fight now and then
Guys ya'll forgot about Orianna?? PS: It would be cool if you try to predict future champions in the spinoffs. In general we all think the next show will be happening between the worlds of Noxus and Ionia
Remember Vanders Nickname on Zaun his called "Hound of the Underground" The writers might be hinting about vanders transformation.
There are also 2 references to Teemo in the show. First one is in the arcade, Jinx is playing a teemo game, and later you can see teemo in the children book silko's henchman is reading. He seems to be some sort of legend or fairy tale character in arcane.
It's more that Teemo is the unofficial mascot of all of League of Legends. Teemo has appeared on more marketing across the globe than any other champion, by far. Riot pushes different champions to the front depending on what plays well with audiences tastes in different regions of the world. Except Teemo. Teemo is universal. There's something universal about his champion design that makes him play everywhere, which just reinforces Riot making sure there's an easter egg for him everywhere.
well now that we've seen arcane there are 2 new characters at least so far. Janna ( we saw her statue ) and Orianna (they introduced her as singed's daughter )
5:12 they cant, the y made the lore, they cant just change it. As you say people who play league and read the lore we alredy know what will happen with season 2 but we want to see it happening. Like we did with season 1 we alredy knew Vi and Jinx will become enemies. And we also know what will happend to viktor. If they change that i think people will get even more mad.
When warwick encouter Jinx in the game, he say "you were there, let me forget"
Sorry but, we're 100% sure that Warwick is vander, not only for his histoy, also the interaction with other characters in the game can confirm that
Riot confirmed that the League Viktor is the same Viktor as in Arcane. They even told us that he will get a redesign in the game based on his appearance in the show
Saying you hope they do something different because otherwise there's no surprise. As someone who played league of legends since the beta, without spoiling anything I'll just say this, everything is both very authentic and full of surprises.
It's 100% him. Not only voice lines in the game confirms it, but you can see him hanging on the wall in Singed's lab in the Arcane season 1 finale.
Actually 5:12 as a league of legends player i will tell you WE DON'T WANT changes and suprises.. we want things we see in game, i want my boy Warwick to be warwick like in game, or Viktor like viktor and other, we dont like changes
That Mage from the show being Ryze is an interesting theory because we know for sure, that Ryze can teleport himself and others, which is what the mage did
If you haven't seen it already, I recommend watching "Kin of the Stained Blade." Awesome League cinematic and will have you wanting to dive into the lore even more..
"*Sinjd". In English, when an object is singed, it mean it is lightly burnt around the edges. If someone went to light a cigarette and their lighter flame is too high, the might singe their eyebrows.
hextech singed: no purple
*but he still appears purple
the couple in the mask are the avatars of death (or atleast the mask depictions of them)the wolf which is a violent death and the sheep which is a peacful one. they are never seen and if they are it is not a good thing
Kindred, the Lamb and Wolf that you mention from the bar where Vi and Cait go to for catching up, the two person talking with the same mask as Kindred had, is not them, it's just that Kindred is the representation of Death or embodyment of Death itself. It just included in the animated series since Kindred Story is spread all through out Runeterra (World) you will end up being taken by Kindred if you die in Runeterra. In this show, Vi and Cait are on a suicide mission, so Kindred is there to teased that they could be taken by Kindred.
That's not a bar, it's a brothel
7:57 That's the mask of Kindred. It is an Easter egg.
did you see their abilities in the game? the canon jinx shoot at the council is her ultimate in the game! I was so emocional while watching it :')
It's funny that you say that because that was the first thing I thought when I saw Jinx on Arcane with that rocket launcher haha "That must be her ultimate"
if you don't mind a bit of "spoilers", Riot Games announced Mother Medarda (Ambessa i think she's called?) is going to be a champion too. They also announced a visual and gameplay update for "an arcane champion", which most believe is going to be either Viktor or Singed.
Medarda is included at the end of the video, yeah! I tried to include everyone that people mentioned in the comments this time 😊
@@MrGuybrush oh mb mb, seems like i missed a part ^^'
No worries! Thank you so much for watching 🤗
Warwick is definitely vander i think there is a voice line in the game where he said he heard a girl crying when he was still human and that moment was when jinx crying out to vi to not leave her behind
They use Warwick's song in the teaser as well as in the 3rd episode of Arcane. It's highly implied that Vander is Warwick. Also, Ryze is definitely the mage that saves Jayce.
Ye ye lets scream so loudly about things that aren't true. Ryze isn't that mage. In LoR we can see that even when he was young, which was like more than 1000 years ago he had a blue skin. In Arcane that mage have pink human skin color.
May be they will retcon his lore and change it so it'll line up, but for now, there is no any confirmation or even slightest hints from riot about that, so screaming so confident and missleading people, who will blidnly trust you because they dont know lore is just wrong.
Vander, yes, Ryze... ehhhh, doubt it.
@@Aaniel_al.Meara. Ryze was not always blue! His skin turned blue due to the prolonged exposure to world runes, this is both confirmed in the Ruination novel and the Young Ryze skin. I doubt they would change anything about Ryze's lore at this point as he is very fundamental for the world. That being said I agree that it probably isnt Ryze. 1. The mage wasn't blue 2. I can't imagine Ryze ever giving away any kinda rune-like magic to a random kid.
If it HAS to be someone from the games I guess Zilean would probably be the only semi-viable option? Obviously it aint him either tho
@@Ghilannugs Where the hell did I said that he always was blue?
Btw Young Ryze skin is just a skin, it has nothing to do with canon lore at all.
@@Aaniel_al.Meara. Who is screaming? Chill. There is no other mage like this in LoL lore, he uses rune magic and teleportation. it's clearly a ryze easter egg. idk why you would even argue against this.
nobody mentioned that Orianna (Singed's daughter) is also a champ. She probably won't be in arcane but it is shown on Singed's locket he keeps watching all the time.
Interesting! I need to check her out 👀
Although he does not specificly feature in Arcane, there's another champion that's connected to the events and locations of the plot, and maybe even hinted: Twitch.
Twitch is a monstrous evil humanoid rat from Zaun, whose main theme revolves around the use of poison. One of the few possibl explanations of how such little monster might have come to exist is by being a common gutter rat mutated by exposure to weird chemicals or experimented on. AND... we DO see Singed test the shimmer on a rat at the end of the very first chapter of the series, increasing its size, strength and aggressive instincts. Coincidence? I think... maybe.
the mage in jayce flashback might be tarric, location seems to be targon and tarric use gems as catalyst for his powers, also the typical good guys that helps people on the way up to targon, so would make sense to me.
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It’s not a theory, Warwick is Vander. I knew the moment he took shimmer in episode 3. His nickname in the show along with some certain voicelines in the game itself confirm it.
Yeah I stopped the copium and now I understand that it's not a theory 😅 I guess I was hoping that I would be surprised in that aspect. Oh well!
@@MrGuybrush Lol yeah, the lore in the game will be kept so none of that will surprise old players of the game. The events themselves have been mostly untold, it’s the details of how the characters got to where they are in the game that keeps us surprised.
If you want to see more about Warwick, check out the following two trailers:
* Warwick: The Wrath of Zaun | Champion Teaser - League of Legends
* Eye of the Beast | Warwick Champion Trailer - League of Legends: Wild Rift
The first teaser was from when they did a major update/rework to Warwick in 2017, while the second trailer is from when he was added to Wild Rift in 2022 (Wild Rift is the mobile version of League of Legends).
Some other notable Arcane related League cinematics/trailers are:
* "Get Jinxed (ft. Djerv) | Official Music Video - League of Legends" - Jinx's Champion Theme Song when she was first released back in 2013, which was actually used in Episode 4 of Arcane.
* "Vi, the Piltover Enforcer | Login Screen (ft. Nicki Taylor) - League of Legends" - Vi's Champion Theme Song
* "Caitlyn, The Sheriff of Piltover | Champion Theme - League of Legends" - Caitlyn's Champion Theme Song
* "Warriors | Season 2020 Cinematic - League of Legends (ft. 2WEI and Edda Hayes)" - a couple of familiar characters will appear in this cinematic.
* "Ekko: Seconds | New Champion Teaser - League of Legends" - Ekko's cinematic from when he was released in 2015
the whole theory with ryze also stems from the fact that one of his abilities, his ultimate, allows his to teleport himself and allies to another par of the map much like the mage in arcane does. of course still not confirmed but still a good theory
So it's a more or less solid theory that Ryze was the Mage that saved Jayce and his mother in the Flashback, and also its theorized, that Singed might have been in the Piltovan Academy. Heimerdinger tells Jayce about an extraordinary inventer, that had to go for his crucial experiments, when the stand in front of a staue in the Academy in a scene.
I think it's the only real possibility we have on hand. But to me, it doesn't make sense since Ryze's entire story is about trying to keep this magic out of the hands of other people. Locking away the runes and preventing the very things that Heimerdinger witnessed and warns about. But at the same time, they're already revamping a lot of things for Arcane's story to become Canon, so I can 100% see them altering Ryze's motives and backstory, too.
by lore, Viktor is constantly changing his damaged organs for hextech or quimtech machines to keep him alive. He also tries to save as many Zaunits as he can, remember the air is kinda poisonous down there. I also hope the writers of the show be gentle with him but he is already on the verge of death so yeah lest not have that much hope :c
And also they didn't hesistate to destroy me in a spiritual level in every single arc of the show so yeah. My boy is gonna suffer
There was a 1 second easter egg for another champion, there is a picture of teemo in a book.
if u want to see more the world do some lol cinematic reactions plz :PP ..i recomend for the start "warrior" "awaken" "the call" "still here". Those are the most popular and its good content, people will watch.
First of all, I haven’t watched Arcane Season 2 yet, but as a former League of Legends player, I can confidently say that Vander is indeed Warwick. If you play as Warwick and encounter Jinx (Powder), Vi (Violet), or Singed, Warwick’s voice lines strongly hint at this connection.
Secondly, the Viktor we see in Arcane is the same Viktor from the game, but the show portrays him much earlier in his timeline. For instance, if he’s around 30 years old in the show, think of him as being in his 40s or even close to 50 in the game.
Thirdly, the Ryze we see isn’t directly connected to the Arcane series. His story is based on a different League of Legends lore source. Ryze is narratively connected to Kalista, Viego, Gwen, and Hecarim in League of Legends lore as cald ruined king
their is more to warwick being vander wrwicks story mentions he only remembers a small girls crying and warwicks music tune plays when vanders on screen plus warwicks lore states he was a gang leader who tried escape his past and be a good person for his comunity but his past cought up to him aka silko catching up to him
Warwick's voicelines in game confirms he knows Vi and Jinx. also Singed's Legends of Runeterra splash art confirms it already.
singed isnt in lor?
@@EinManU my bad wrong game. what I mean his lore was updated with image together with warwick
Singed was one of the first champions, so some of the skins are really old, that's why hextech is green for example.
The suspicion is that there will be an Arcane Viktor skin and something along the lines of Monstrosity Warwick resembling Vander. But they are indeed spoilers for the 2nd season.
There is a high chance the mage in the series was Ryze as he is the only mage known to teleport people (his ultimate skill)
The arcane series is telling the story of the champions, we don't know about their past, but the champions are their future, understand?
Everyone who knows the champion's lore knows what the character will become in the future, we just want to know what their past was like
Yeah I think zaun has been independent since the game started.
not entirely corretct but mostly
Ryze is totally the mage from the show because of the runes in the magic and the hability and creating teleport portals in his skills.
About warwick being Vander, in one site of lore-heavy content, it's said that the only memory from before the transformation is a "sea of fire and a girl crying and calling him", that is exactly what happens in the s1e3 of the show.
No he is not. The simpliest debunk I'll use for your *theory* is a skin color. In one of the art works in LoR we can see that even when Ryze was just a child\teen (which was more than a 1000 years before events we saw in Arcane) he already had a violet skin, mage in Arcane didn't had a violet skin color. So just stop spreading missinformation based on your crappy theories like it is confirmed info.
Plus Ryze's channel of teleport is completely differnt, which we saw in his cinematic. He can do it just at will, he doesnt need to channel it with some stick and runes.
Ryze is the mage, I agree. Idk why so many people are so fervently against this being true. Plenty of things in Arcane aren't exactly the same as in LoL. Why would they show a rune mage that uses teleportation and NOT make it Ryze? It's an easter egg. It's not that hard to understand.
@@indigorune bro your just so cringe it insane.
@Nicitel96 yeah, cus the itens in league of legends like saphire crystal are just in the game, and it's not like ryze in the game don't uses any mana item at all. They didn't change anything in characters visual that apeared in the game, just all the f ones that received an ARCANE VERSION SKIN. Now the gray-ish blue-ish mage using rune-sigils like those that aperers in all but one skills from ryze is so obviously not him that you spawn from the sewers of the internet just to get on my nerv. If i'm not using my brain, at least i don't have a dump on it's place like you. Fing troll.
@@Aaniel_al.Meara. I was mistaken on some theories before, and sometimes i've even went to aknowlodge it. I i guess i was never so useless as to go looking into the comment section to be an ass (but at least you were not as agressive as idiot above you, and I respect that) . To your debunks i'll just say that it wouldn't be the first time riot changes slightly characters apearences from one media to the next. Specially because only this year riot gave any information about trying to make a consistent canone with all the videos, comics and short stories. Also if you read the shortstories about ryze and his travels, you should know how he travels and how he behaves (at least until the brand incident). It matches. So until any official confirmation or denial from riot, I would keep the tone of this argument down. Oh a little thing about the warp on the "call of power" cinematic he just warps himself, while on the unconfirmed apearence in the arcane episode he does an area warp, like the ultimate, with the windup and all.
If players didnt connect the dots in episode 1 that vander is warwick they sure did in episode 3 when vander let out his warwick growls and screams after he was injected with all the shimmer. He also took the warwick stances from the first ww trailer ^^
Vander being Warwick sadly isn't a theory. It's confirmed
3:46 The monstrosity can also be seen at the very end of episode 9, although it's far from being as obvious 😅.
Arcane is already an alternate story, Jinx(Powder) and Vi cannonically dont know they are sisters, or at least 1 of them doesnt, i forgot
No, they 100% know. Vi's amnesia was reconned out of her bio years ago.
Now that season 2 is out, I can say that Singed is responsible for creating or influencing the creation of multiple champions from piltover/zaun.
Itty bitty screen time, lots of plot relevance.
And what about Jhin guys ? I'm pretty sure he's the violonist at the opera scene. Even Ray Chen, the musician acting for the serie, is making few video about Jhin in his channel.
Orianna could also possibly be a Champion that could come in season 2. At the end of the last episode we see Singed looking at a necklace with a picture of a young girl in it. Probably his daughter, since he said he had a daughter. The girl in the picture looks almost the same as the Champion Orianna. Although her story is very different in the lore, Singed was not her father. In the lore her father was Corin Reveck.
The theory is that Singed IS Corin Reveck.
@@indigorune That would explain a lot and would be a cool spin on both their stories
Riot already said arcane lore is now league lore they merge the worlds together. Been playing league since 2016 happy about some of the changes sad about others but majority we already knew based on lore
The picture is kindred that you asked about the rat that sibged tested on is twitch camile is aparently in there somewhere because riot said so but i guess she was in the background somewhere uhhhh i cant think of anyone else
Dont know if you realized but the school skin from Caitlyn is shared with Vi
So riot from the launch of arcane, has stated that everything released in arcane, the next season, and in game lore, is going to be Cannon. So sadly, writers won't go a different direction. Like with singed and Viktor, they are showing their origins, so expect that of Warwick aka Vander.
I just noticed that in-game ability spotlight of Warwick shows him attacking Signed 0-0
That spotlight is really old, did they have this plan all along?
Arcane is fully canon now, so they kind of have to make the characetrs end up like the champions we see, so they can't really make Warwick not be a werewolf anymore, and they can't really change what Viktor becomes.
3:46 Tell me you don't play the game without telling me you don't play the game... 😅
I mean... the title says he doesn't play
I recomend see the presentation of Ekko, hes cinematic called "Seccond".
Also last thing to note all characters in peague are cannon. They will only change slightly for the show nothing massive to where there not the same charactet. So any character you see in that roster is very very close to how they will be in the shows in the future. Season2 wraps up vi and jinx story and it will probably move to jayce and viktor becoming enemies in the next season. Idk where its going from there. Theres 5 other factions they can delve into that i feel they should go into like garen lux and sylas story line
just as an fyi there are a lot more champions that are speculated to be in arcane/mentioned in it but they play a very minor role if at all in s1
"twitch" has 1 of 2 current theories as to who it could be 1st theory ppl have is the rat that escaped in act 1 of the series from the lab that was drugged with shimmer. the 2nd theory is that the toxic air in Zaun mutates the one major shimmer addict (the one that sells out vi and cait) is later on experimented by signed and turned into Twitch through cross experimentations.
another speculation is that the girl in the locket that singed has towards the ending of the series is meant to be "Oriana" her story would need to be updated a bit but that's about it
finally there's a champion unrelated to Piltover or Zaun that was presumably mentioned by Ambessa during her flashback with Mel that champion the Noxian Warlord that overthrew his government is meant to be "Swain"
but again these are only minor speculations that can't be elaborated as of yet.
Also there are some items in the game that are based around Piltover and Zaun the main one that you'll probably recognise is "Turbo Chemtank" (though that item has been recently removed for balance reasons).
Also the reason why the WW fantheory is pretty much confirmed has to do with a lot of different circumstances there's the way ppl nicknamed vander as well as no other characters even close in shape to the body hanging in singeds lab at the end. the image is also practically directly ripped off of league of legends universe page (a page for different stories of the champions) that story being titled "engeneering a nightmare" and it stars viktor and warwick. then there's the new voicelines that were added to warwick after arcane released
That Viktor you see in league is not made of steel like it suggests, he just has a helmet on. However he did operate on himself to removes his emotions because they were an obstacle on his research.
That was the old lore though, it was different from arcane, it involved Jayce and Viktor being "rivals" on the Piltover Academy, and Jayce was an egotistical genius but couldn't work with anyone because no one tolerated his character.
I invite you to read both Jayce's and Viktor's bios one after another, since at the end both bios tell the same story but from both views. On jayce's bio Viktor ends up as a villain, but on Viktor's bio we learn that he was trying to help zaunites from a chemical spill accident until Jayce arrived and when Viktor tried to explain what was he doing Jayce was already blasting the place down.
Would be a good video for a "champion bio reaction", a lot of arcane fans continue league content by reacting to champions individually
yeah, they can do small changes BUT altough Arcane started as an alternate universe for LoL, riot decided to made it cannon... and as cannon, they can't do big changes cause they are bounded ('cause arcane is the past off the LoL, that's why in the first video Jayce looked older, 'cause he IS older.. arcane is the past) and for the two girls with masks, they aren't champions per say, but their MASKS represents a champion (the Champion is Kindred, a Sheep and a Wolf, yes two entities in one champ, they use those maks and they are the representation of Death in the LoL universe)
In case you want to react to more champs kinda related to Arcane because they're from Zaun or Piltover (or they just reside in that places actually) , that doesn't mean all of them are gonna to appear in arcane 2:
Zaun:
Ziggs
Janna
Urgot
Dr. Mundo
Zeri
Twitch
Renata
Zac
Biltzcrank
Piltover:
Camille
Orianna
Ezreal
Seraphine
Corki
And also just a curious fact, Silco was an exclusive champion from TFT , another game from Riot
I definitely have a video like this in mind!! Thank you so much for the info. So excited to find out more about this world
Arcane is canon, already confirmed by riot, so Viktor someday is gonna be like that, but we don't know how he became like that yet.
There's a champion named Twitch, the rat that got injected with shimmer in the series they say.
I just shot a video where I talk about all the champions in Zaun, Twitch included! Should be up this week 😊
Wait.. Nobody mention oriana before? The singed daughter
It's not a theory Warwick is 100 percent Vander
Doubt it all you want. Vander is Warwick. It's a sort of thing where the only reason it's not fully confirmed is because they are letting non LoL players find it out themselves, while LoL players are 'in on the secret' so to speak. Or in some cases... people tell you guys the secret.
As for Ryze, there is legitimately nothing suggesting the mage at the start of Arcane was Ryze. People just go 'that guy uses magic, so does Ryze' and that's their only reason to believe it. Arcane isa show that, for League of Legends players, everyone wanted to see their favorite characters. And Ryze is a favorite of a lot of people, so naturally, they look for any opportunity to suggest that a character was him.
8:00 That's not a champion. It's not even technically a reference but I suppose you could call it one. Kindred is the God of Death to many parts of the world, so it's only natural people would in fact have symbols of it, which is the masks they wear. Of course it is saying 'Hey, Kindred is a thing' so that's why it's a reference, but at the same time, it is naturally something you would see in the world. It's the same as someone wearing a cross around their neck in real life. Nobody is gonna point at that and go "Look! It's a reference to Jesus!" But to be clear, the masks they are wearing represent Kindred, the God of Death who is represented by a Wolf (The dark mask), and a Lamb (The light mask). It represents the two sides to death, Lamb who hunts those with her bow, taking those who embrace their end willingly. And Wolf, who chases those who try and defy their death. But those character there are not Kindred, they're just wearing masks representing a God they believe in. And Kindred is a playable Champion.
Honestly for lore nerds like myself who know the outcome, its more about the process to get there. I knew Viktor would start with good intentions. I knew Vi/Jinx had it tough on the streets. How they get to where they are now is just as important.
Side note you probably should have viewed the abilities (although some may be spoilers a bit). Just because heimerdinger is a "mage" doesnt mean he is not a tinkerer. It just means he is very ability focused to do what he needs to. Marksman is what most ranged champions are referred to as. Its a common theme for piltover/zaun to derive alot of their abilities from technology.
He should watch the warwick teaser vid.