I am working on getting my Hawk titled, my MCO didnt come notarized and I was concerned about that. I do have insurance and bill of sale as well as MCO. I was also going to get it inspected before I went to the DMV for plates and title.
I think you'll have to have the registration before you can get it inspected. So, the title stuff at the DMV will have to come first. That is the case in PA, atleast.
I just got mine titled with a new license plate Monday two days ago I took my certificate of origin my proof of insurance it does have to be insured before they will issue a license plate my bill of sale my drivers license and some money everything cost me( $118.00 ) But I live in ❤️Sweet home Alabama ❤️ ... 👍 , and they don’t give us too much shit about emissions or other crap ...!!! I was in and out of the DMV in 20 minutes the gal did come out and take a look at my VIN number on the motorcycle, when I talked to my insurance company ( progressive ) , I explained what a ( dual sport motorcycle was to my agent ) , I have been with progressive with all of my motorcycles for 21 years.....! To put my HAWK on my insurance with my three other motorcycles was a ( extra two dollars every three months.....!!!! ) my paperwork for my motorcycle arrived three days after my bike did I immediately called my insurance company and gave them the cc and the VIN number....! ((“ do not tell your insurance company it is a “DIRT BIKE” that is street legal ...! )) insurance companies , most all of them will N O T ensure dirt bikes ...! use the term ( dual sport ) , when talking to your insurance company it makes the conversation and your Life a whole lot easier.............!!!
This is sort of irrelevant, but i bought an xpro templar, and ive been fighting with the tag office because the mco says make: zuma and they cant find it in the state system so now they want pictures of the bike and the nhtsa sticker, of course mine says new 2023 off highway, so this should be fun, ill pave the way though for the rest of us xpro riders though so may we all ride our enduros in peace
AWESOME VID!!! Thanks for making this! My enthusiasm for the bike has waned somewhat but I'll keep an eye on quality/experience with these (and more the fuel injected model) for the future. But with everything needed to register in PA, this is VERY helpful! On the double sales tax, I'm pretty sure the place in TX I was looking at doesn't charge tax. Gonna have to keep all this in mind and verify everything prior to paying if/when I do buy one. Thanks again!
I appreciate it! Hopefully this will help if you end up deciding to purchase one. If I wasn't going for the cheapest amazon bike, I think I would have bought the fuel injected model!
I live in pa also . As of 2021 the state is now strictly enforcing The California c.a.r.b. emissions standards . Anyone out there , If you live in one of the 13 California carb compliant states which are mostly located in the northeast , they won't register or Title you got if your new scooter , and mco paper doesn't clearly show It was certified thru California . By California certified , it's c.a.r.b. Compliant . Sometimes this means a carb certified label stamped on your mco , other times you will have an added Stamp of notary on the mco from California , containing the pedigree of your bike being proper for carb. compliance. anyone got questions I'd be happy to elaborate. The northeast doesn't play , and if your Mco and scooter isn't carb compliant , they won't register you .
Yeah I’m having trouble getting my TBR7 titles in pa. My vin starts with an L and apparently it’s a big Fukin deal. ☹️ Wish I new before I just would have went and bought a new Yamaha and been done with it… this sucks.
Hey great video, I got one of these bikes as my daily because of how cheap it was, I got it, and I'm in Florida, but the bill of sale was never received in the mail
I must have missed the part in the video where you talked about avoiding paying taxes twice. How do you get the notorized bill of sale or whatever you mentioned? Thanks for your help!
The only way I have found to do that is to get a notarized bill of sale from the supplier. I've read that it is possible. It can also be a Pennsylvania thing
I live in Maine and just for everyone's info reg was no problem. i have a 2016 hosen rps Magician. No emissions here except Cumberland county but not on bikes i believe. any bike under 300cc does not require a title when used, only new. registration is weird. for street legal you register it as a normal motorcycle, and a 2nd registration for atv for off road use. basically register twice. then a $12 motorcycle inspection every year. insurance of course. and a valid bike endorsement. hope that helps you guys!
I don’t know how you got this registered in PA with out a notary stamp o the MCO. I just went to Harrisburg dmv they told me with out the notary stamp they will not do it. So I’m waiting to see if I can get a new MCO sent with the notary stamp
@@TyposGarage got it. Unfortunately it doesn't look like the invoice includes sales tax and that was definitely not something I budgeted for. 😭 plus all the other fees I'm sure I'll encounter, i wish the dmv listed the prices on such things. Kinda silly to have to go get a money order or hope you have enough to cover whatever they're charging on your card. Thanks for replying.
Yeah definitely. I think everything (tax, title and registration) came to around 160 or 170? You could save up for a month or two and get it legal then.
@@TyposGarage I'll have it by the time my bike arrives (I hope lol) I'm just salty I won't have that as 'spending' money for accessories or a gopro, haha. Plus I'll have to take at least a day off to take care of this. And that's probably more than I make in a day. 😅
Nope. In PA, you have to pay the taxes again unless you can get a notarized letter that you paid the taxes already. I just ended up paying because I didn't want to deal with the headache.
The registration and titling will need just a drivers license. Now I'm not sure if you need a motorcycle permit to get insurance, which is then needed for the registration. I would check into that.
I'm assuming since the bike was brand new and didn't have a specific state title, I didn't have to show the bike. But, when I transferred the title for my SV650 from Arizona to PA, they had to check the vin. Although, when I transferred the title for my scooter from Ohio to PA, they didn't need to see the bike! I'm not sure what the policy is.
@@TyposGarage i think they have to match the vin if it comes from a state that doesn't require a notary to sign over a title 🤔 I've bought a few things from WV that I had to I don't think I had to from Ohio when I bought a car there but went to a notary there
@@charleshowsare1116 to pa from wv & to pa from Ohio they can ask..they’ve also asked with pa to pa transfers before so it honestly seems like the notary makes the judgment call to ask
Actually one more question, the DMV is the only place to get a title? Or could I get it from a certified state inspection site or is that only for inspection.
I got my inspection done at a small auto shop and all the title work done at a messenger service (notary) you pay an extra fee at the notary, but it was convenient as I didn't have to spend half of the day at the dmv. You can call the notary and ask some questions before you go, too.
@@TyposGarage awesome thanks! I found a small auto shop I'd love to go to for the inspection. I haven't looked for any notary because I haven't used one in years and I'm so used to the DMV now especially after getting all my permits last year. And my licenses this year. And while most of my experiences weren't terrible I'd love a more convenient route. Thanks so much for your help! I've got a CSC 250 coming my way. 🤠
Yeah I forgot the inspection. This bike will pass with no issues here in PA and should cost anywhere from 20 to 40 dollars. Since the title and registration is valid, I shouldn't have any issues now.
@@TyposGarage Changed my mind. Now, looking at the Hawk. Sold my last Harley a year ago because it wasn't fun anymore with ppl paying more attention to their cell phones. I been missing the adventure of riding and don't make a lot of money anymore. Had more fun in my childhood days riding dirt bikes, than on any of my street bikes, so I believe I'll be giving one of these China bikes a try. Let us know if you go to your regular shop for inspection, or had to take it to a bike shop. Appreciate the videos man.
Unfortunately, the hawk is not able to become road legal in California. If you are near an adjacent state, you can register it there and transfer the title to CA, but that will be quite expensive. There are a few other options that are similar to the hawk that may be able to be registered in Cali.
From what I have read, you will need proof of insurance, the bill of sale and the MCO. My MCO was not notarized, but it did not cause any issues because the MCO is coming from a dealer. I did have to pay sales tax again, though.
They did not put my name on the MCO but the company said I could write my name and sign the MCO. Coming from cali as a non notary state I want to believe this is true, however. Did yours come with your name on it?
@@TyposGarage been riding bikes since I was 11 I'm now 58 I've never needed a nerd or smoke before but this is a new motorcycle I'm not sure if I need the endorsement thank you for your advice
Haha no problem! I had my permit for around 4 years then went and took my skills test for the endorsement on my license. Although, you can go the next day after you get your permit and take your skills test.
Weird my steam name used to be 7yp0 anyways hey man im from nj i just an x pro titan 250 im so nervous i cant get plates im waiting for it in the mail lol motorcycle mailed
This bike definitely has a purpose. Is it meant for travelling on the highway and racing motocross? Probably not. But for moderate trail riding and commuting to work, it seems to be a great bike. I am 6 foot and the bike is pretty tall for me.
How was your experience titling and registering your Hawk 250 Enduro? Did you run into any issues?
I am working on getting my Hawk titled, my MCO didnt come notarized and I was concerned about that. I do have insurance and bill of sale as well as MCO. I was also going to get it inspected before I went to the DMV for plates and title.
I think you'll have to have the registration before you can get it inspected. So, the title stuff at the DMV will have to come first. That is the case in PA, atleast.
Do I need a motorcycle endorsement on my driver's license for the hawk 250
@@mikemcatee1384 I dont know about other states.. in FL you do for anything above 50cc.
@@mikemcatee1384 yes
I just got mine titled with a new license plate Monday two days ago I took my certificate of origin my proof of insurance it does have to be insured before they will issue a license plate my bill of sale my drivers license and some money everything cost me( $118.00 )
But I live in ❤️Sweet home Alabama ❤️ ... 👍 , and they don’t give us too much shit about emissions or other crap ...!!!
I was in and out of the DMV in 20 minutes the gal did come out and take a look at my VIN number on the motorcycle, when I talked to my insurance company ( progressive ) , I explained what a ( dual sport motorcycle was to my agent ) , I have been with progressive with all of my motorcycles for 21 years.....! To put my HAWK on my insurance with my three other motorcycles was a ( extra two dollars every three months.....!!!! ) my paperwork for my motorcycle arrived three days after my bike did I immediately called my insurance company and gave them the cc and the VIN number....! ((“ do not tell your insurance company it is a “DIRT BIKE” that is street legal ...! ))
insurance companies , most all of them will N O T ensure dirt bikes ...! use the term ( dual sport ) , when talking to your insurance company it makes the conversation and your Life a whole lot easier.............!!!
Last week in PA, I went to a Notary/Tag service to register/title my TBR7, and I also needed either a rubbing or a photo of the actual VIN.
Ice Bear Champion, ( Honda Trail 70 Clone). Comes from dealer with MSO. Wisconsin finally allows these, old days it was tough.
Doing this in nee York state this month. Thanks for the good information and wish me luck
Good luck! You should be fine 👍
@@TyposGarage thanks brother
I was looking into getting one of these bikes, but was concerned with tagging it I live in PA also so you clarified the issue thanks.
No problem. Hopefully it works out for you if you decide to get one!
Super helpful! Thanks man
The bouble taxing is a racket. I moved to another state with a truck I owned for over 10 years and had to pay sales tax again.
Yeah, that's some BS.
Dude great job mansplaining this cuz I wasent beat for the hassle. This definitely saved me time
No problem bro! It was hard to find a good video for it, so I took one for the team.
It was the same in Minnesota, except they also wanted the engine serial number.
That's interesting. They didn't ask me about the engine vin.
Been looking for this type of video. Might have to make another myself. Come down to South East PA and Let's ride!
2 years late I live very close to east pa I’d like to find some cool trails for me and my sons to ride
This is sort of irrelevant, but i bought an xpro templar, and ive been fighting with the tag office because the mco says make: zuma and they cant find it in the state system so now they want pictures of the bike and the nhtsa sticker, of course mine says new 2023 off highway, so this should be fun, ill pave the way though for the rest of us xpro riders though so may we all ride our enduros in peace
AWESOME VID!!! Thanks for making this! My enthusiasm for the bike has waned somewhat but I'll keep an eye on quality/experience with these (and more the fuel injected model) for the future. But with everything needed to register in PA, this is VERY helpful! On the double sales tax, I'm pretty sure the place in TX I was looking at doesn't charge tax. Gonna have to keep all this in mind and verify everything prior to paying if/when I do buy one. Thanks again!
I appreciate it! Hopefully this will help if you end up deciding to purchase one. If I wasn't going for the cheapest amazon bike, I think I would have bought the fuel injected model!
Thanks for the vids,keep them up.
Thanks man!
I live in pa also . As of 2021 the state is now strictly enforcing
The California c.a.r.b. emissions
standards . Anyone out there ,
If you live in one of the 13
California carb compliant states
which are mostly located in the
northeast , they won't register or
Title you got if your new scooter , and mco paper doesn't clearly show
It was certified thru California .
By California certified , it's c.a.r.b.
Compliant .
Sometimes this means a carb certified label stamped on your mco , other times you will have an added
Stamp of notary on the mco from
California , containing the pedigree
of your bike being proper for carb.
compliance. anyone got questions
I'd be happy to elaborate. The
northeast doesn't play , and if your
Mco and scooter isn't carb compliant , they won't register you .
Yeah I’m having trouble getting my TBR7 titles in pa. My vin starts with an L and apparently it’s a big Fukin deal. ☹️ Wish I new before I just would have went and bought a new Yamaha and been done with it… this sucks.
Man, I must have just got it titled in time. I will look into this and maybe post a video about it. Thanks for the info!
Manufacturers Statement of Origin, MSO. Needed to get title.
Hey great video, I got one of these bikes as my daily because of how cheap it was, I got it, and I'm in Florida, but the bill of sale was never received in the mail
Thabks dude!! Hmm. I would call the company that you bought it from and have your VIN ready. They should be able to mail you one.
@@TyposGarage thank you, I appreciate it, I'll keep you updated if that works out, have a good day
You don't need insurance for a bike in Florida right?
Had to show some love for a pa brother sup Typo
Nice bro! What part of PA are you from?
Thanks man really helpful🥃
No problem! Glad I could help.
I must have missed the part in the video where you talked about avoiding paying taxes twice. How do you get the notorized bill of sale or whatever you mentioned? Thanks for your help!
The only way I have found to do that is to get a notarized bill of sale from the supplier. I've read that it is possible. It can also be a Pennsylvania thing
I live in Maine and just for everyone's info reg was no problem. i have a 2016 hosen rps Magician. No emissions here except Cumberland county but not on bikes i believe. any bike under 300cc does not require a title when used, only new. registration is weird. for street legal you register it as a normal motorcycle, and a 2nd registration for atv for off road use. basically register twice. then a $12 motorcycle inspection every year. insurance of course. and a valid bike endorsement. hope that helps you guys!
Thanks for the info, man! You probably answered someone's question. 👍
What abt Louisiana
crazy they are up to $1900 now
That's insane! I'm not sure I would pay that much. I would say 2k would be the limit. That's even a bit high.
I don’t know how you got this registered in PA with out a notary stamp o the MCO. I just went to Harrisburg dmv they told me with out the notary stamp they will not do it. So I’m waiting to see if I can get a new MCO sent with the notary stamp
I went to a messenger service with the Bill of Sale and the MCO. Didn't have any issues. I don't think anything was notarized.
Can I do this in New Jersey
You live In sharpsville
Hey. Question. Who did you go with for your insurance?
I have 3 motorcycles insured through Progressive.
Bill of Sale would be like the invoice yah? Cause certificate of origin is the title.
The certificate of origin is all the info you need to get the title, so it's not a title yet. The bill of sale has the purchase price for the dmv.
@@TyposGarage got it. Unfortunately it doesn't look like the invoice includes sales tax and that was definitely not something I budgeted for. 😭 plus all the other fees I'm sure I'll encounter, i wish the dmv listed the prices on such things. Kinda silly to have to go get a money order or hope you have enough to cover whatever they're charging on your card. Thanks for replying.
Yeah definitely. I think everything (tax, title and registration) came to around 160 or 170? You could save up for a month or two and get it legal then.
@@TyposGarage I'll have it by the time my bike arrives (I hope lol) I'm just salty I won't have that as 'spending' money for accessories or a gopro, haha. Plus I'll have to take at least a day off to take care of this. And that's probably more than I make in a day. 😅
To be clear, if your invoice includes the tax they won't charge you tax?
Nope. In PA, you have to pay the taxes again unless you can get a notarized letter that you paid the taxes already. I just ended up paying because I didn't want to deal with the headache.
so the bill of sale should've say you already paid taxes? so it's invalid proof, why?
Did you need motorcycle license or just regular drivers license? I’m also in pa
The registration and titling will need just a drivers license. Now I'm not sure if you need a motorcycle permit to get insurance, which is then needed for the registration. I would check into that.
Did you need the bike present at the notary for them to match the vin, I know PA requires that when transferring an out of state title?
I'm assuming since the bike was brand new and didn't have a specific state title, I didn't have to show the bike.
But, when I transferred the title for my SV650 from Arizona to PA, they had to check the vin. Although, when I transferred the title for my scooter from Ohio to PA, they didn't need to see the bike! I'm not sure what the policy is.
@@TyposGarage i think they have to match the vin if it comes from a state that doesn't require a notary to sign over a title 🤔 I've bought a few things from WV that I had to I don't think I had to from Ohio when I bought a car there but went to a notary there
@@charleshowsare1116 to pa from wv & to pa from Ohio they can ask..they’ve also asked with pa to pa transfers before so it honestly seems like the notary makes the judgment call to ask
What part of pa you live in? I'm in Dover in York county
I'm in Sharon, right on the border of Ohio.
Actually one more question, the DMV is the only place to get a title? Or could I get it from a certified state inspection site or is that only for inspection.
I got my inspection done at a small auto shop and all the title work done at a messenger service (notary) you pay an extra fee at the notary, but it was convenient as I didn't have to spend half of the day at the dmv. You can call the notary and ask some questions before you go, too.
@@TyposGarage awesome thanks! I found a small auto shop I'd love to go to for the inspection. I haven't looked for any notary because I haven't used one in years and I'm so used to the DMV now especially after getting all my permits last year. And my licenses this year. And while most of my experiences weren't terrible I'd love a more convenient route. Thanks so much for your help! I've got a CSC 250 coming my way. 🤠
Forgot Inspection, or don't these mail order street & trail bikes require one? I been looking at the TRB7.
Yeah I forgot the inspection. This bike will pass with no issues here in PA and should cost anywhere from 20 to 40 dollars. Since the title and registration is valid, I shouldn't have any issues now.
@@TyposGarage Changed my mind. Now, looking at the Hawk. Sold my last Harley a year ago because it wasn't fun anymore with ppl paying more attention to their cell phones. I been missing the adventure of riding and don't make a lot of money anymore. Had more fun in my childhood days riding dirt bikes, than on any of my street bikes, so I believe I'll be giving one of these China bikes a try. Let us know if you go to your regular shop for inspection, or had to take it to a bike shop. Appreciate the videos man.
Am I able to register in California?
Unfortunately, the hawk is not able to become road legal in California. If you are near an adjacent state, you can register it there and transfer the title to CA, but that will be quite expensive. There are a few other options that are similar to the hawk that may be able to be registered in Cali.
Did your MCO come notarized? Mine did not and I was wanting to know what I was going to have to do to get titled in NC.
From what I have read, you will need proof of insurance, the bill of sale and the MCO. My MCO was not notarized, but it did not cause any issues because the MCO is coming from a dealer. I did have to pay sales tax again, though.
They did not put my name on the MCO but the company said I could write my name and sign the MCO. Coming from cali as a non notary state I want to believe this is true, however. Did yours come with your name on it?
Just wondering if you got it titled in NC?
I got title in NC. Went really smoothly.
@@rll0322 good to hear, I assume you had the carbureted hawk?
Do I need a motorcycle endorsement on my driver's license register to drive the hawk 250 Enduro
You will atleast need a learner's permit.
@@TyposGarage been riding bikes since I was 11 I'm now 58 I've never needed a nerd or smoke before but this is a new motorcycle I'm not sure if I need the endorsement thank you for your advice
LOL where it says smoke is supposed to say motorcycle endorsement
Haha no problem! I had my permit for around 4 years then went and took my skills test for the endorsement on my license. Although, you can go the next day after you get your permit and take your skills test.
Weird my steam name used to be 7yp0 anyways hey man im from nj i just an x pro titan 250 im so nervous i cant get plates im waiting for it in the mail lol motorcycle mailed
I don't think that one is road legal. It shouldn't be too hard to register it for offroad use.
Wow pay sales tax twice.
Super extortion.
I know, right? USA USA
No , when you register it in your state , that's when they get you for sales tax ,
not where you bought it .
Anyone in Ohio title one of these?
Would you recommend this.? How tall are you
This bike definitely has a purpose. Is it meant for travelling on the highway and racing motocross? Probably not. But for moderate trail riding and commuting to work, it seems to be a great bike.
I am 6 foot and the bike is pretty tall for me.
@@TyposGarage I was able to adjust my shock just a little bit so I can at least get two feet on the ground only 5 6