Hey Jeff !! Great videos that you make, the other great thing about you that I have noticed is that you are really genuine with all the details you cover, much appreciate your efforts!
Great video keep up the good work. Would also like to see a short video explaining about the main rotor blades and tail blades as well. How tight or loose should they be as well. I would like to know
Thank you! I greatly appreciate that, I try my best to give great energy and positive energy throughout every video no matter what the video is. I love this hobby, and I love to spread my passion for this hobby.
With my RAW 420 I just tension untill my tensioner has only a little bit of play. Then tighten everything up and fly. Haven't had any issues doing it this way. 👍
I just found this video. As of now, its 5 months old. Ive been flying with torque tube tails. I recently build a Tron Dnamic with a belted tail. This video will help me ensure that my tension is happy. The other day while spooling down from a flight, I thought I heard a noise from my tail boom. I was wondering, is my belt too loose? I'll take a look at it the next opportunity I get. Thanks for the best & helpful heli videos on the planet!
Jeff, Everything You Post is Helpful!! I'm a SAB Goblin Pilot, through & through!!! I've got a 380 KSE, 3 TOP MAINS, A 420 RAW AND A 570 Drake Edition. 95% of what you do is Relevant!! Thanks again Jeff and my Best to You and your little Angel, Dad, Grandma & Grandpa!! Stay well, Jeff!!
Grazie mille jeff,ho appena acquistato un tb70 v2 e ancora prima di alzarsi da terra noto che la coda vibra con un gioco verticale,e una volta in aria ha una vibrazione al carrello di atterraggio,ho avuto problemi con il serraggio della cinghia di coda,ma dopo il tuo fantastico video so come fare,grazie mille,auguri per tutto
Having a belt is like having dual direct-drive pedals on a drumset,, I imagine... xD I only ever got to fly direct-drive tail so far and just recently got my hands on a little pushrod setup micro heli but an actual belt seems like the real thing you want to go for eventually.
Belt driven tails will always outperform a brushless driven tail, depending on the size of the helicopter. I my self love the idea of a direct drive brushless driven tail, but it is extremely difficult to get them to even come close to the performance of a belt, driven tail on bigger models, mainly because of variable pitch versus changing motor RPM.
Hi Jeff, great video, thanks. Have you ever heard like a slapping noise from the belt when it's too loose? I had that on the omp m4 before tightening the belt. Thanks!
So normally every 100-150 flights I will pull my helis apart and re grease all the thrust bearing and check over the whole model. Belts can last a many many flights and they can go bad fast. Really depends on how tight the belt is. How old the belt is. Normally it’s age that makes them go bad.
Thank you for the video jeff. I recently built a kraken 580 which doesn't have any tension pulleys for the tail belt, how would i tell if it is too tight?
@@anthonypoltes7413 thank you for watching! So on the kraken you go by feel, you want to use the same idea, hold tail hub and put pressure on the head and make sure it doesn’t skip. Then make sure its doesn’t feel to tight.
Thanks JEFF. Maybe you can help me i’m trying to find canopy quick remove latches for my align 500 heil. I tried Rc booya, but I don’t know if they’re still in business they don’t answer my emails and everything’s out of stock. Thanks, JEFF.
You’re welcome! So, unfortunately, those canopy latches are no longer in production and haven’t been made for a long while now. Your best bet is to look on the forms and groups to try to find somebody that has a set. They are willing to sell. I had a set on my old Trex 500 and they were great!
Hi Jeff, on my omp m4 max under hard collective backwards flight, sometimes the tail blows out wildly and does a full piro or more. Sometimes I hear the tail belt slap in normal flight. Belt tension seems tight both with the squeeze test and holding rotor, turn the tail. Do you think this is due to loose belt or something else? Thanks!
@@mikefuchs2814 hi Mike, that’s a good question, so if you hear the belt slapping I would say it’s the belt skipping and losing the tail. But it could also be the tail just letting go. But does it do it all the time? What FBL and tail servo?
@westhobbiesrc8051 hi Jeff, it's the stock omp ds3515t tail servo and ikon fbl. I think it does it all the time if I get on full collective high speed tail first loops and such. Stock omp 85A ESC. Thank you!
Such helpful videos Cheers I have a question for all comers; I am flying an Old KDS 450 Heli, no flight controller just a basic Gyro, I can't bind the KDS K-8X receiver to it so i'll upgrade the Receiver, I have a TX16s mk1 running Open TX 4n1, Suggestions on a good easy to bind receiver Please. Cheers Simon New Zealand
Hey Jeff! Awsome video as always, I'm thinking I want to sell my Raw 420 to build a Raw 500. I think overall the Raw 500 will be a better model. I'm going to go through and rewire the entire thing to help clean it up, along with going through to re-grease it and clean up the model from all dirt and grime. I'm going to put new decals on it as well. I think I have about 30 flights in total with this modle and it's never been wrecked. It's got the exact set up your 420 has along with the aluminum blade grips and motor guards with the Rotortech 420 blades and Rotortech tail blades. I'll also include the original blades. How much would be a fair asking price for this heli?
The 500 is a great helicopter. I’m really enjoying it! I need to build one for myself. I have seen them go ready to fly like that for anywhere from $700 to $900. Depending on setup and conditions. I would say $750-$850 is a great asking price.
No, helis are designed to make the perfect amount of power with the belt tension in mind. Yes, if you run a belt very tight it will take away power as there strain is high. Running your belt looser to have more power is just asking for belt slap and skipping,
Bro I do not even know how I got here 😏👋🏿👋🏿 nor do I plan on owning one🫣 But your intel is Amazing super dooper easy to comprehend and a ghad Damn great watch💯✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿 New sub also 😎😎
Jeff, you must be psychic! During my last flight I was questioning my belt tension, thanks for the tips
Maybe I am! Nobody will ever know lol I hope the video was helpful!
Learn something new after being in the hobby 10 years, my old 380 goblin Always had belt residue on the rollers but never knew why
Bam! Thank you bro! This video is perfect. Not one video out there that explains this in this detail. THANK YOU!
You’re welcome! I’m glad the video was detailed and helpful.
Hey Jeff !! Great videos that you make, the other great thing about you that I have noticed is that you are really genuine with all the details you cover, much appreciate your efforts!
Hello! Thank you very much. I try my best to make every video as informational as possible! Thank you for watching!
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Thanks Jeff. Awesome as always. Comprehensive info delivered in an easy and direct way.
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
Thanks for the video. Really enjoy the beginner basics content. I still have so much to learn.
Good! I’m glad you are enjoying these videos!
Great video keep up the good work. Would also like to see a short video explaining about the main rotor blades and tail blades as well. How tight or loose should they be as well. I would like to know
Thank you! I appreciate it! That video will come out Monday!
Just want to say that I really enjoy all your videos Jeff. Your upbeat, happy demeanor really gives off a positive vibe, keep up the great work !
Thank you! I greatly appreciate that, I try my best to give great energy and positive energy throughout every video no matter what the video is. I love this hobby, and I love to spread my passion for this hobby.
Awesome video Jeff. Very educational as usual.
Thank you Toby! I’m glad the video was helpful!
With my RAW 420 I just tension untill my tensioner has only a little bit of play. Then tighten everything up and fly. Haven't had any issues doing it this way. 👍
That way works too!
Another great video from WesthobbiesRC
Thank you, Tony! I greatly appreciate it.
I just found this video. As of now, its 5 months old. Ive been flying with torque tube tails. I recently build a Tron Dnamic with a belted tail. This video will help me ensure that my tension is happy. The other day while spooling down from a flight, I thought I heard a noise from my tail boom. I was wondering, is my belt too loose? I'll take a look at it the next opportunity I get.
Thanks for the best & helpful heli videos on the planet!
Nice explanation Jeff 👍👍👍
Thank you! I hope the video was helpful.
Fabulous Video and Explanations, Jeff!! Thanks for sharing, Brother!
Hey Larry! You’re welcome! I hope the video was helpful.
Jeff, Everything You Post is Helpful!! I'm a SAB Goblin Pilot, through & through!!! I've got a 380 KSE, 3 TOP MAINS, A 420 RAW AND A 570 Drake Edition. 95% of what you do is Relevant!! Thanks again Jeff and my Best to You and your little Angel, Dad, Grandma & Grandpa!! Stay well, Jeff!!
Awesome break down ! Thanks Jeff, now I don’t have to assume I was doing it right !!
Thank you! I’m glad the video was helpful and gave you some reinsurance!
I wonder if SAB will make the tensioner gauge for other models in their lineup later on?
I personally think they should! Not sure if it will happen or not but I would love to see it.
Grazie mille jeff,ho appena acquistato un tb70 v2 e ancora prima di alzarsi da terra noto che la coda vibra con un gioco verticale,e una volta in aria ha una vibrazione al carrello di atterraggio,ho avuto problemi con il serraggio della cinghia di coda,ma dopo il tuo fantastico video so come fare,grazie mille,auguri per tutto
Having a belt is like having dual direct-drive pedals on a drumset,, I imagine... xD
I only ever got to fly direct-drive tail so far and just recently got my hands on a little pushrod setup micro heli but an actual belt seems like the real thing you want to go for eventually.
Belt driven tails will always outperform a brushless driven tail, depending on the size of the helicopter. I my self love the idea of a direct drive brushless driven tail, but it is extremely difficult to get them to even come close to the performance of a belt, driven tail on bigger models, mainly because of variable pitch versus changing motor RPM.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 besides the ugly sound of the tail, like a mosquito or a drone
Great video yet again
This video is really useful, thanks for sharing your knowledge.
You’re welcome! I’m glad he’s videos are helpful and you can learn from them.
Hi Jeff, great video, thanks. Have you ever heard like a slapping noise from the belt when it's too loose? I had that on the omp m4 before tightening the belt. Thanks!
Yes! If your belt is to lose it can definitely cause a slapping noise inside the boom. But that’s really lose! Very surprised it didn’t skip teeth.
Hello Jeff, on which conditions the tail belt breaks apart? And how we know it's been worn out and it's time to change?
So normally every 100-150 flights I will pull my helis apart and re grease all the thrust bearing and check over the whole model. Belts can last a many many flights and they can go bad fast. Really depends on how tight the belt is. How old the belt is. Normally it’s age that makes them go bad.
Thank you for the video jeff. I recently built a kraken 580 which doesn't have any tension pulleys for the tail belt, how would i tell if it is too tight?
@@anthonypoltes7413 thank you for watching! So on the kraken you go by feel, you want to use the same idea, hold tail hub and put pressure on the head and make sure it doesn’t skip. Then make sure its doesn’t feel to tight.
Thanks JEFF. Maybe you can help me i’m trying to find canopy quick remove latches for my align 500 heil. I tried Rc booya, but I don’t know if they’re still in business they don’t answer my emails and everything’s out of stock. Thanks, JEFF.
You’re welcome! So, unfortunately, those canopy latches are no longer in production and haven’t been made for a long while now. Your best bet is to look on the forms and groups to try to find somebody that has a set. They are willing to sell. I had a set on my old Trex 500 and they were great!
Hi Jeff, on my omp m4 max under hard collective backwards flight, sometimes the tail blows out wildly and does a full piro or more. Sometimes I hear the tail belt slap in normal flight. Belt tension seems tight both with the squeeze test and holding rotor, turn the tail. Do you think this is due to loose belt or something else? Thanks!
@@mikefuchs2814 hi Mike, that’s a good question, so if you hear the belt slapping I would say it’s the belt skipping and losing the tail. But it could also be the tail just letting go. But does it do it all the time? What FBL and tail servo?
@westhobbiesrc8051 hi Jeff, it's the stock omp ds3515t tail servo and ikon fbl. I think it does it all the time if I get on full collective high speed tail first loops and such. Stock omp 85A ESC. Thank you!
Such helpful videos Cheers I have a question for all comers; I am flying an Old KDS 450 Heli, no flight controller just a basic Gyro, I can't bind the KDS K-8X receiver to it so i'll upgrade the Receiver, I have a TX16s mk1 running Open TX 4n1, Suggestions on a good easy to bind receiver Please. Cheers Simon New Zealand
Hey Jeff! Awsome video as always, I'm thinking I want to sell my Raw 420 to build a Raw 500. I think overall the Raw 500 will be a better model. I'm going to go through and rewire the entire thing to help clean it up, along with going through to re-grease it and clean up the model from all dirt and grime. I'm going to put new decals on it as well. I think I have about 30 flights in total with this modle and it's never been wrecked. It's got the exact set up your 420 has along with the aluminum blade grips and motor guards with the Rotortech 420 blades and Rotortech tail blades. I'll also include the original blades. How much would be a fair asking price for this heli?
The 500 is a great helicopter. I’m really enjoying it! I need to build one for myself. I have seen them go ready to fly like that for anywhere from $700 to $900. Depending on setup and conditions. I would say $750-$850 is a great asking price.
Blade tightness next... ;-)
I think I know your stance on it but why not make a whole video? hehe
cheers man
Blade tightness video will be out next Monday. Just have to finish editing that video!
the looser you run the belt the more power your heli makes and less strain is put on your bearings
No, helis are designed to make the perfect amount of power with the belt tension in mind. Yes, if you run a belt very tight it will take away power as there strain is high. Running your belt looser to have more power is just asking for belt slap and skipping,
@westhobbiesrc8051 so the goal is loose as possible
Any way we could chat about the Raw 500 tail?
Sure! What do you need help with?
Kind of a long story.. mine went in the first 3 minutes.. first Heli ever..
Can I email you my number and chat for a few?
If not, no worries
@@mattdbot are you on Facebook?
Unfortunately not
Im afraid of having it to tight and the belt being ripped apart mid air😅
Bro I do not even know how I got here 😏👋🏿👋🏿 nor do I plan on owning one🫣
But your intel is Amazing super dooper easy to comprehend and a ghad Damn great watch💯✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
New sub also 😎😎
Thank you! I’m glad you found the channel and enjoy it! Maybe one day you will get into it and you have plenty of videos to help!