Thanx David ... Thanx a ton Grandmother for narrating this story . I do not know what happened to me but throughout the video i was crying like anything. Hundred thousand salutations at my guru's lotus feet...Bhagwan Ramana🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thanks to David for sharing such jewels. Her last words were every Devotee of Bagawans experience. One can't talk about Bagawan without that emotional Burt or crying. Same is the case for Bagawan himself when Bagawan tried to talk about Arunachala or Lord Siva.
Dear David Godman, I am very grateful for your videos. That is helping me to keep hours sitting down writing my mantras for my initiation and it keeps me connected to the essential. Blessings.
Dear David Godman ,please also accept my prostrations .Sir, since years of being with your hand of guidance in the teachings of Bhagavan Shri Ramana I have observed the tremendous energy that has been transmitted for over six months effortlessly with such accuracy. Sir, this not only goes to show how the teachings propel themselves as Shri Bhagavan has remarked in your Be As You are that the teachings will engage itself through someone competent devoted like yourself as an instrument for us to comprehend.Not only that my English has improved so well to write in such a manner now sir you have reminded me of my Tamil heritage by this wonderful loving video of Shri Padma Venkataraman. It is hilarious to me that that certain English words somehow attaches itself so strongly a certain affinity to be a part of the spoken Tamil ....and especially the accent and tone only native to south Indians . Dear David Godman sir iam indeed fortunate to come across the Be As You book and have not stooped in my tracks to thank you enough. Sir I wish you the best of health . . looking forward for more of your stories of Shri Arunachaleshwara much Light and love Jagadasa Balu
I'm sure many will be glad to know that the Tamil subtitles have now been added. Apologies for the delay. Please spread the word, especially those who know people who have been disappointed in the past by their absence. Rob.
Namaskaram Sir If either of you (David Sir or Robert Sir) happen to read this, could you please clarify what Padma Amma is saying towards the end of the interview as Bhagavan asking her to remain as the object and annihilate the thoughts. I am confused by this as this appears to be contrary to my little understanding of the practice - Did not Bhagavan teach us to investigate the subject - the ego and not dwell on the object?
A true bhaktha and as usual draws tears. Don't know why !! Please let me know if you need help in English translation. Sr Murganar poem on Maharishi per video -14:36 - 14:44 mins He will kill you (your ego) without killing you ( your body ) He will not communicate(say) but will communicate to you He is meaning of "true knowledge" that is learnt by the ignorant you
+David Godman Dear Shri David, Has the translation been done? If not, please let me know. Venkat.Gururajan@Hotmail.com. BTW, listened to this tearfully. Thanks / Gratitude and Koti Pranamams Sir..
+Venkat Gururajan all of ramana mahrishi teaching is evidence with this divine soul. I learnt recently that she has joined with Arunachala ramanas feet about a few years ago
Subtitles in Tamil and English have been prepared, but still need a little work. Sorry for the delay. Meanwhile here is the text and translation of a Muruganar verse from his Tiruvempavai, which is probably one of those which Padma is referring to at 14:36 -14:44. அல்லாத வாணவஞ்சே ராருயிரை வாள்விழியாற் கொல்லாதே கொன்று கொளுத்துமெய்ஞ் ஞானத்தான் இல்லாதே யுள்ளனபோற் றோற்றுமெலா வற்றுக்கும் இல்லாதாத் தோற்றி யுளதாகுஞ் செம்பொருளான் கல்லாதே கற்றுணர்ந்த கல்விப் பொருடன்னைச் சொல்லாதே சொல்லித் துலக்கமொளிர் மொனத்தான் பொல்லா மணிரமணன் போகமெலா நன்கருள வல்லா னடிவாழ்த்தி வாழேலோ ரெம்பாவாய். He is the possessor of true knowledge, who with the sword of his gaze kills without killing and burns up our dear soul, which is host to the ego, from which it is not different. Being, but appearing not to be, he is the reality behind all that is not, but appears to be. A radiant silence emanates from him, as he speaks without speaking the teaching of reality that he has learned without learning. Praising the feet of the flawless jewel Ramana, who has the power to grant us all delights, may you flourish! Our maiden, arise! Śri Ramaṇa Canniti Muṟai, v. 1462
Dear Namrata I understand your frustration. Apparently the person responsible is very busy at the moment. If you like, you can download a version from the Lulu site at www.lulu.com/shop/robert-butler/moments-of-bliss-revisited/ebook/product-22851297.html. If you can't afford to download it, post your email address and I will send you a copy for free. The .pdf versions is identical to the subtitles which will eventually appear. Best Regards Rob Butler
Didn't get to watch the entire 38 min (latest) video before it was removed. I so regret not listening to it entirely last night. it's gone this morning. Pls repost. It was about surrender and how to do it. I'm in agony now!
blueskythinking83 i watched them all yesterday. They were really great. David told some new stories that hadn’t been mentioned before, at least on the videos.
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Dear Radhika See my reply to Savithri below. What is says basically is that, although Bhagavan would not normally tell someone to regard themselves as the object, he possibly felt that Padma was not ready for the highly subjective path of investigation (the path of jnana) and that it was better for her to follow the path of devotion (bhakti) by consigning her body and mind over to Bhagavan as his possession,. Ultimately, if all is the qualityless Absolute. then the terms we use to describe it are not important once the understanding is gained. 🙏 Rob
+David Godman I checked in Ramanasramam. A video was released a few years ago that contained reminiscences from many devotees who had lived with Bhagavan. It is called Guru Ramana, and it includes an interview with Kanakamma. The DVD is available from the ashram bookstore for Rs 50.
Namaskaram Namaskaram Sir If either of you (David Sir or Robert Sir) happen to read this, could you please clarify what Padma Amma is saying towards the end of the interview as Bhagavan asking her to remain as the object and annihilate the thoughts. I am confused by this as this appears to be contrary to my little understanding of the practice - Did not Bhagavan teach us to investigate the subject - the ego and not dwell on the object?
Namaskaram Savithri I'm surprised no one has raised this point before. Why should Bhagavan reverse his normal parlance and refer to the Self as object and the ego as subject? I do discuss this question in some detail on pp. 38-39 of Moments of Bliss Revisited, which is a book giving the text of this this Talk. Here is an excerpt: The answer may be that Bhagavan was tailoring his advice to suit Padma’s individual needs, as he was well known to do in many cases. He perhaps saw that the path of self-enquiry was ill-suited to her at her stage of spiritual development at that time. Indeed we know from what she has said previously that the desire to devote herself to her guru and Lord had possessed her from her early years, and that intellectual concerns over the nature of the Self would have played little part in this. Bhagavan was probably therefore advising the path of surrender to Padma, referring in this context to the ‘I’, the ego, as the subject and advising, ‘If you remain as the subject, the personal “I”, there will be no end to thoughts. Rather should you allow yourself to surrender and become the object of the Self, seeing all your actions as those of the Self, and thus allowing no scope for those personal thoughts.’ In other words he would have been guiding her gently away from the path of vichara - enquiry on to that of vairagya - renunciation, with the emphasis on devotion and surrender rather than investigation. The state of not seeking that which is other [than one’s Self] is renunciation (vairagya) or freedom from desire (nirācai); not letting go of the Self is knowledge (jnana). Actually both are the same thing. (Who am I, para. 11). It also seems significant that Bhagavan reverses the symbolism of the fortress metaphor, used in Naan Yaar, when he speaks to Padma, to make it more illustrative of the bhakti approach rather than that of jnana.
In the earlier version (Naan Yaar) we are outside the fort and our task is to win it by tracing the enemy thoughts to their root and destroying them. This is suggestive of enquiry. In the second version however our task is to remain inside the fort without being tempted to go outside, that is, to give up all desires for external phenomena, which will render the enemy thoughts powerless and eventually lead to their destruction. This is suggestive of renunciation. The book is available from Lulu in book and .pdf format. www.lulu.com/account/projects/1pyz5rj9. But this is the gist of it. In Bhagavan Robert
Padma Amma concludes by saying - "நாம் நாமாக கோட்டைக்குள் இல்லாம எப்படி எதிரிகளை வெட்ட முடியும்?" .... familiar turf - 'I' have to remain as 'I' to destroy the enemy (thoughts). just before that she says "எதிரிகள் வரத்தே கோட்டைக்கு வாயிலில் இருந்து எல்லாத்தையும் வெட்டணும் என்று சொன்னாரே அந்த தத்துவம்" - so i thought when Amma is referring to 'நான் யார்' (கோட்டைக்குள் எதிரிகள் உள்ள வரையில்), she is saying it in her way and not something Bhagavan told her in that instance the earlier statement of Padma Amma that Bhagavan asked her to remain as the object is what confused me. Thank you Sir for clarifying - another way of understanding surrender - try to practice becoming an object of Self (Bhagavan) reminded of yet another verse of Thayumanavar Swami... சிவன் செயலாலே யாதும் வரும் எனத் தேறேன்; நாளும் அவம் தரு நினைவை எல்லாம் அகற்றிலேன்; ஆசை வெள்ளம் கவர்ந்து கொண்டு இழுப்ப, அந்தக் கட்டிலே அகப்பட்டு, ஐயோ பவம்தனை ஈட்டி ஈட்டிப் பதைக்கின்றேன் பாவியேனே. (I do not realise that all happens by the will of Siva; I do not drive away the evil thoughts that bombard me all the time; swayed by the deluge of desires and trapped in that bondage, I the sinful one, am entangled in the mess of repeated births) உளவு அறிந்து எலாம் நின்செயலாம் என உணர்ந்தோர்க்கு அளவு இல் ஆனந்தம் அளித்தனை; அறிவிலாப் புன்மைக் களவு நாயினேற்கு இவ்வணம் அமைத்தனை; கருத்துத் தளரும் தன்மை இங்கு ஆரோடு புகலுவேன் தக்கோய்! (To those who know the mystery and realise that everything happens by Your will, You bestowed immeasurable happiness; to me, an ignorant vile mean thief, You have ordained this way - a depressed sorrowful weak/ infirm/ shaky mind! with whom here shall I share [my plight] and take refuge?) 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I agree with you that the final statement is most likely her own personal take on the teachings, and not a record of what Bhagavan said. Very perceptive. Yes, seeing oneself as an 'object' is another way of looking at things. If you really think you have a body and a mind, then consign it as a mere jada object to Bhagavan and let Him move in it (bhakti). This will in the end have the same result as annihilating the body-mind idea through self-attention (jnana). In both cases the அறிவிலாப் புன்மைக் களவு நாய் will eventually give up on the unequal struggle and be drawn in and annihilated. What அக்காள் describes as: தான் பிறரற்று ததாகரமே வடிவுற்று ஏங்காமல் எது வந்தாலும் நிலைத்து தூங்காமல் தூங்கும் ஸுகானந்த கூத்து. Thank you for the poems. 🙏🙏🙏
Hey David is it normal that when i ask myself the question WHO AM I my kundalini activate. Last time something interesting happened. What your though on it? i'll be much appreciated.
I've been sitting here meditating and i Lost like 30 pounds yet i am not getting anywhere, and i know you'll who is this I that you are talking about. Seem like Advaita is faster that regular yoga.
If you have yogic exercises in your past, enquiry might activate your kundalini. If it does, you should focus on the experiencer of the phenomena rather than indulging in the experience.
Thanx David ...
Thanx a ton Grandmother for narrating this story .
I do not know what happened to me but throughout the video i was crying like anything.
Hundred thousand salutations at my guru's lotus feet...Bhagwan Ramana🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
We too get moved to tears listening to this. Thanks David for all you offer in the service to Bhagawan.
Thanks to David for sharing such jewels.
Her last words were every Devotee of Bagawans experience. One can't talk about Bagawan without that emotional Burt or crying. Same is the case for Bagawan himself when Bagawan tried to talk about Arunachala or Lord Siva.
Wow that's my grandmother at Sankara Vihar an institution that is still running and advocating the philosophy of advaita... thank you Mr David Godman
Where is this institution? Thanks
Dear David Godman, I am very grateful for your videos. That is helping me to keep hours sitting down writing my mantras for my initiation and it keeps me connected to the essential. Blessings.
Dear David Godman ,please also accept my prostrations .Sir, since years of being with your hand of guidance in the teachings of Bhagavan Shri Ramana I have observed the tremendous energy that has been transmitted for over six months effortlessly with such accuracy. Sir, this not only goes to show how the teachings propel themselves as Shri Bhagavan has remarked in your Be As You are that the teachings will engage itself through someone competent devoted like yourself as an instrument for us to comprehend.Not only that my English has improved so well to write in such a manner now sir you have reminded me of my Tamil heritage by this wonderful loving video of Shri Padma Venkataraman. It is hilarious to me that that certain English words somehow attaches itself so strongly a certain affinity to be a part of the spoken Tamil ....and especially the accent and tone only native to south Indians . Dear David Godman sir iam indeed fortunate to come across the Be As You book and have not stooped in my tracks to thank you enough. Sir I wish you the best of health . . looking forward for more of your stories of Shri Arunachaleshwara much Light and love Jagadasa Balu
I'm sure many will be glad to know that the Tamil subtitles have now been added. Apologies for the delay. Please spread the word, especially those who know people who have been disappointed in the past by their absence. Rob.
Namaskaram Sir
If either of you (David Sir or Robert Sir) happen to read this, could you please clarify what Padma Amma is saying towards the end of the interview as Bhagavan asking her to remain as the object and annihilate the thoughts. I am confused by this as this appears to be contrary to my little understanding of the practice - Did not Bhagavan teach us to investigate the subject - the ego and not dwell on the object?
Found myself crying a few times through this. Very touching. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you David for sharing this! So grateful for it! Feel so blessed!
Very very important lesson : if you are the object of your perception, where is the subject?
Thanks for sharing the experiences of devotees with Bhagavan.
Dear Shri David Godman, thanks so much for the video and translation
Sir - I feel blessed for this opportunity to watch your videos. Thanks.
Thank you very much for sharing such great devotees videos... much appreciate it... Om Namo Bagavate Shri Ramanaya
Thanks so much for the translation. So glad I checked back. This is wonderful.
A true bhaktha and as usual draws tears. Don't know why !! Please let me know if you need help in English translation.
Sr Murganar poem on Maharishi per video -14:36 - 14:44 mins
He will kill you (your ego) without killing you ( your body )
He will not communicate(say) but will communicate to you
He is meaning of "true knowledge" that is learnt by the ignorant you
+scifi1 Thanks for volunteering. Email me at david_godman@yahoo.co.uk and we can discuss it.
+David Godman Dear Shri David, Has the translation been done? If not, please let me know. Venkat.Gururajan@Hotmail.com. BTW, listened to this tearfully. Thanks / Gratitude and Koti Pranamams Sir..
+Venkat Gururajan all of ramana mahrishi teaching is evidence with this divine soul. I learnt recently that she has joined with Arunachala ramanas feet about a few years ago
Muchas Gracias David.
Such a pious lady an advanced soul.. I just wish that I could atleast see someone n talk to them who has seen Bhagavan or his close Disciples 🙏
Thanks David and Rob. Good to see the Tamil sub-titles now included with viewers offered the choice to choose English or Tamil.
Subtitles in Tamil and English have been prepared, but still need a little work. Sorry for the delay. Meanwhile here is the text and translation of a Muruganar verse from his Tiruvempavai, which is probably one of those which Padma is referring to at 14:36 -14:44.
அல்லாத வாணவஞ்சே ராருயிரை வாள்விழியாற்
கொல்லாதே கொன்று கொளுத்துமெய்ஞ் ஞானத்தான்
இல்லாதே யுள்ளனபோற் றோற்றுமெலா வற்றுக்கும்
இல்லாதாத் தோற்றி யுளதாகுஞ் செம்பொருளான்
கல்லாதே கற்றுணர்ந்த கல்விப் பொருடன்னைச்
சொல்லாதே சொல்லித் துலக்கமொளிர் மொனத்தான்
பொல்லா மணிரமணன் போகமெலா நன்கருள
வல்லா னடிவாழ்த்தி வாழேலோ ரெம்பாவாய்.
He is the possessor of true knowledge,
who with the sword of his gaze
kills without killing and burns up our dear soul,
which is host to the ego, from which it is not different.
Being, but appearing not to be,
he is the reality behind all that is not, but appears to be.
A radiant silence emanates from him,
as he speaks without speaking the teaching of reality
that he has learned without learning.
Praising the feet of the flawless jewel Ramana,
who has the power to grant us all delights,
may you flourish! Our maiden, arise!
Śri Ramaṇa Canniti Muṟai, v. 1462
Rob Butler thanks!
Thanks so much for the translation
thank you davidji for sharing. namaste_/\_
Wow. Thankyou so much
Thank you for uploading.
இந்த அம்மா அவர் அனுபவத்தை சொல்லும் போது நானும் உடன் இருந்து பார்த்த அனுபவம் மனதுக்குள் வருகிறது.
Is she crying because,"He killed her ego".
I am moved by her staunch and innocent love for Bhagwan
Awesome find. Waiting for subtitles.
Thanks for the video.Waiting for subtitles.
सभी रमण भक्तों की जय हो जय हो जय हो जय
Namaskara. Shanti, shanti, shanti.
I'm eagerly awaiting the subtitles. Wish somebody could post a translation of this in the comments at least....I would be ever so grateful!
Dear Namrata
I understand your frustration. Apparently the person responsible is very busy at the moment. If you like, you can download a version from the Lulu site at www.lulu.com/shop/robert-butler/moments-of-bliss-revisited/ebook/product-22851297.html. If you can't afford to download it, post your email address and I will send you a copy for free. The .pdf versions is identical to the subtitles which will eventually appear.
Best Regards
Rob Butler
I like very much
Didn't get to watch the entire 38 min (latest) video before it was removed. I so regret not listening to it entirely last night. it's gone this morning. Pls repost.
It was about surrender and how to do it. I'm in agony now!
blueskythinking83 why did he remove
it?
@@tarnum113 wish I knew Alex
blueskythinking83 i watched them all yesterday. They were really great. David told some new stories that hadn’t been mentioned before, at least on the videos.
@@tarnum113 wish I could listen to the one on surrender. It was like a message from Ramana himself
I had been praying for an answer
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Can someone please explain what she says about object and subject from @20:00? Thanks in advance!
Dear Radhika
See my reply to Savithri below. What is says basically is that, although Bhagavan would not normally tell someone to regard themselves as the object, he possibly felt that Padma was not ready for the highly subjective path of investigation (the path of jnana) and that it was better for her to follow the path of devotion (bhakti) by consigning her body and mind over to Bhagavan as his possession,. Ultimately, if all is the qualityless Absolute. then the terms we use to describe it are not important once the understanding is gained. 🙏
Rob
Thank you @Rob :) _/\_
dear david
Kanakammal is in the first frame of this video .could you please post her video interview if possible
+Annamalai Thangarajan I will make enquiries at Ramanasramam and see if her video is available and if it can be posted here.
+David Godman I checked in Ramanasramam. A video was released a few years ago that contained reminiscences from many devotees who had lived with Bhagavan. It is called Guru Ramana, and it includes an interview with Kanakamma. The DVD is available from the ashram bookstore for Rs 50.
+David Godman thank you very much for your immediate reply and information
Namaskaram
Namaskaram Sir
If either of you (David Sir or Robert Sir) happen to read this, could you please clarify what Padma Amma is saying towards the end of the interview as Bhagavan asking her to remain as the object and annihilate the thoughts. I am confused by this as this appears to be contrary to my little understanding of the practice - Did not Bhagavan teach us to investigate the subject - the ego and not dwell on the object?
Namaskaram Savithri
I'm surprised no one has raised this point before. Why should Bhagavan reverse his normal parlance and refer to the Self as object and the ego as subject? I do discuss this question in some detail on pp. 38-39 of Moments of Bliss Revisited, which is a book giving the text of this this Talk. Here is an excerpt:
The answer may be that Bhagavan was tailoring his advice to suit Padma’s individual needs, as he was well known to do in many cases. He perhaps saw that the path of self-enquiry was ill-suited to her at her stage of spiritual development at that time. Indeed we know from what she has said previously that the desire to devote herself to her guru and Lord had possessed her from her early years, and that intellectual concerns over the nature of the Self would have played little part in this. Bhagavan was probably therefore advising the path of surrender to Padma, referring in this context to the ‘I’, the ego, as the subject and advising, ‘If you remain as the subject, the personal “I”, there will be no end to thoughts. Rather should you allow yourself to surrender and become the object of the Self, seeing all your actions as those of the Self, and thus allowing no scope for those personal thoughts.’ In other words he would have been guiding her gently away from the path of vichara - enquiry on to that of vairagya - renunciation, with the emphasis on devotion and surrender rather than investigation.
The state of not seeking that which is other [than one’s Self] is renunciation (vairagya) or freedom from desire (nirācai); not letting go of the Self is knowledge (jnana). Actually both are the same thing. (Who am I, para. 11).
It also seems significant that Bhagavan reverses the symbolism of the fortress metaphor, used in Naan Yaar, when he speaks to Padma, to make it more illustrative of the bhakti approach rather than that of jnana.
In the earlier version (Naan Yaar) we are outside the fort and our task is to win it by tracing the enemy thoughts to their root and destroying them. This is suggestive of enquiry. In the second version however our task is to remain inside the fort without being tempted to go outside, that is, to give up all desires for external phenomena, which will render the enemy thoughts powerless and eventually lead to their destruction. This is suggestive of renunciation.
The book is available from Lulu in book and .pdf format. www.lulu.com/account/projects/1pyz5rj9. But this is the gist of it.
In Bhagavan
Robert
Padma Amma concludes by saying - "நாம் நாமாக கோட்டைக்குள் இல்லாம எப்படி எதிரிகளை வெட்ட முடியும்?" .... familiar turf - 'I' have to remain as 'I' to destroy the enemy (thoughts).
just before that she says "எதிரிகள் வரத்தே கோட்டைக்கு வாயிலில் இருந்து எல்லாத்தையும் வெட்டணும் என்று சொன்னாரே அந்த தத்துவம்" - so i thought when Amma is referring to 'நான் யார்' (கோட்டைக்குள் எதிரிகள் உள்ள வரையில்), she is saying it in her way and not something Bhagavan told her in that instance
the earlier statement of Padma Amma that Bhagavan asked her to remain as the object is what confused me.
Thank you Sir for clarifying - another way of understanding surrender - try to practice becoming an object of Self (Bhagavan)
reminded of yet another verse of Thayumanavar Swami...
சிவன் செயலாலே யாதும்
வரும் எனத் தேறேன்; நாளும்
அவம் தரு நினைவை எல்லாம்
அகற்றிலேன்; ஆசை வெள்ளம்
கவர்ந்து கொண்டு இழுப்ப, அந்தக்
கட்டிலே அகப்பட்டு, ஐயோ
பவம்தனை ஈட்டி ஈட்டிப்
பதைக்கின்றேன் பாவியேனே.
(I do not realise that all happens by the will of Siva; I do not drive away the evil thoughts that bombard me all the time; swayed by the deluge of desires and trapped in that bondage, I the sinful one, am entangled in the mess of repeated births)
உளவு அறிந்து எலாம் நின்செயலாம் என உணர்ந்தோர்க்கு
அளவு இல் ஆனந்தம் அளித்தனை; அறிவிலாப் புன்மைக்
களவு நாயினேற்கு இவ்வணம் அமைத்தனை; கருத்துத்
தளரும் தன்மை இங்கு ஆரோடு புகலுவேன் தக்கோய்!
(To those who know the mystery and realise that everything happens by Your will, You bestowed immeasurable happiness; to me, an ignorant vile mean thief, You have ordained this way - a depressed sorrowful weak/ infirm/ shaky mind! with whom here shall I share [my plight] and take refuge?)
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I agree with you that the final statement is most likely her own personal take on the teachings, and not a record of what Bhagavan said. Very perceptive.
Yes, seeing oneself as an 'object' is another way of looking at things. If you really think you have a body and a mind, then consign it as a mere jada object to Bhagavan and let Him move in it (bhakti). This will in the end have the same result as annihilating the body-mind idea through self-attention (jnana). In both cases the அறிவிலாப் புன்மைக் களவு நாய் will eventually give up on the unequal struggle and be drawn in and annihilated. What அக்காள் describes as:
தான் பிறரற்று ததாகரமே வடிவுற்று
ஏங்காமல் எது வந்தாலும் நிலைத்து
தூங்காமல் தூங்கும் ஸுகானந்த கூத்து.
Thank you for the poems. 🙏🙏🙏
Hey David is it normal that when i ask myself the question WHO AM I my kundalini activate. Last time something interesting happened.
What your though on it?
i'll be much appreciated.
I've been sitting here meditating and i Lost like 30 pounds yet i am not getting anywhere, and i know you'll who is this I that you are talking about.
Seem like Advaita is faster that regular yoga.
If you have yogic exercises in your past, enquiry might activate your kundalini. If it does, you should focus on the experiencer of the phenomena rather than indulging in the experience.
David Godman Love
+David Godman Should the question WHO AM I be followed by the answer Not This Not This? Because i feel i am possessed by a Ghost, but It's bound.
excellent answer
Can you translate in English