RTX 4080 Laptop vs Desktop - How Big is the Difference?

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    RTX 4080 Laptop vs Desktop Timestamps:
    0:00 Are 4080 Laptop vs Desktop the same?
    0:20 GPU Spec Differences
    0:39 Laptop Test System
    1:02 Desktop Test System
    1:23 Differences Between My Laptop & Desktop
    1:43 GPU Power Limit Differences
    2:07 Thermals
    2:18 Fan Noise
    2:34 Power Draw
    2:57 Temperatures
    3:20 Clock Speeds
    3:41 Performance Per Watt (Efficiency)
    3:55 PCIe Bandwidth
    4:03 25 Games Compared (4K, 1440p & 1080p)
    4:12 Cyberpunk 2077
    4:34 Cyberpunk 2077 + RT, DLSS & Frame Generation
    4:52 Hogwarts Legacy
    5:10 Hogwarts Legacy + DLSS & Frame Generation
    5:32 Spider-Man
    5:51 Spider-Man + DLSS & Frame Generation
    6:02 The Witcher 3 + RT
    6:25 The Witcher 3 + RT, DLSS & Frame Generation
    6:46 A Plague Tale: Requiem
    7:00 A Plague Tale: Requiem + DLSS & Frame Generation
    7:16 Microsoft Flight Simulator
    7:36 Microsoft Flight Simulator + DLSS & Frame Generation
    7:44 Poor 1% Low Performance! Rainbow Six Extraction
    8:24 More Poor 1% Lows - Forza Horizon 5
    8:37 Yet More Problems - Dead Space
    8:55 DOOM Eternal - More Inconsistencies
    9:14 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II
    9:25 Apex Legends
    9:43 13 More Games Tested!
    10:16 25 Game Average Difference at 1080p
    10:43 25 Game Average Difference at 1440p
    11:10 25 Game Average Difference at 4K
    11:38 25 Game Average
    12:05 Content Creation (Blender & DaVinci Resolve)
    12:27 Price Difference & Sales
    13:47 Cost Per Frame (Value)
    14:05 Upgrade Options
    14:18 Do You Need Portability?
    14:45 Even Bigger Gap Between RTX 4090 Laptop & Desktop!
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  • @JarrodsTech
    @JarrodsTech  ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Alright here's the requested RTX 4090 laptop GPU vs RTX 4080 desktop GPU comparison! th-cam.com/video/z2531DDo55w/w-d-xo.html
    To everyone asking for all sorts of different random laptop vs desktop GPU comparisons - I can't do them all as dedicated videos, but there will be one big video comparing almost all RTX 30/40 laptop and desktop GPUs in some months time, just takes a LONG time to collect all the data (25 games, multiple resolutions, more than 30 GPUs)

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you can do the most requested one though.
      Looking at a huge number of graphs at the same time would make it way harder to analyze how much faster a certain GPU is compared to another.
      You can also just compile results of the desktop 4080 and laptop 4090m and show them to us with a voiceover. You don't need to re-test them again since all benchmarks are already done.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TabalugaDragon Maybe, I just have my doubts as to how well the video would actually do. Do that many people actually care about that?

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JarrodsTech yes, read the comments to this video and to 4090 vs 4090 comparison, lots of people are requesting it. Even more than I expected. Since 4090m and desktop 4080 are based on the same die, that's what a lot of people(if not most) want to see.
      As for price difference - a laptop will almost always cost more, that's just the truth of life.

    • @vishalsg
      @vishalsg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What exactly is 1% low?

    • @DarkKnight2037
      @DarkKnight2037 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I only mean to compare Laptop 4090 with Desktop 4080, because theyre the exact same chip. But i guess for taht could also just look at the power graph of the 4080 desktop lol

  • @sbilalx
    @sbilalx ปีที่แล้ว +364

    To all the people who want the laptop 4090 to be compared with the desktop 4080, i totally agree with you based on information's sake. But those saying that this video comparision is not fair are absolutely wrong as this is what nvidia themselves did to confuse those unaware buyers. If this is what they wanna do, then this shall be what they get.

    • @MicaelAzevedo
      @MicaelAzevedo ปีที่แล้ว +16

      King

    • @xtradi
      @xtradi ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It will never be same as the watts are difference so it's should not be having the same name

    • @Spolt_main
      @Spolt_main ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Idk why everyone is saying this is inaccurate because it's literally what's advertised.

    • @enricojeremias5425
      @enricojeremias5425 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Still, that comparison 4900m vs 4800 desktop would be interesting to see ...

    • @strider029
      @strider029 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's not exactly to confuse the customers, yes it looks that way. You will still get the advatages of a 40 series card in a mobile variant like DLSS 3, except the reason they have degraded the performance is for thermal reasons, laptop's thermals haven't really kept up with the amount of power the newer NVIDIA cards is asking nowadays (a 4090 asks for 450 watts, no way in hell you're going to fit that monstrosity in a 16 inch or even 18 inch laptops).
      Laptop designers need to design a new thermal solution to make it possible, or NVIDIA needs to design their cards to be more energy efficient without degrading performance.

  • @7lllll
    @7lllll ปีที่แล้ว +260

    you should compare desktop 4080 to laptop 4090, then it's pretty much identical specs except the energy use

    • @crescentmoon256
      @crescentmoon256 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      U can underolt the pc gpu with no performance impact

    • @santhoshsridhar5887
      @santhoshsridhar5887 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There's like maybe a 10-15% uplift between the laptop 4080 and 4090 at best

    • @CMDR_MAJIC
      @CMDR_MAJIC ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Exactly, that would be a more logical and interesting comparison. We already knew the naming is irrelevant and I don't need to watch the video to know that the desktop obliterates the laptop 4080. What would actually be interesting is comparing the most powerful laptop to its nearest desktop equivalent based on the specs (not the naming)

    • @TheTricou
      @TheTricou ปีที่แล้ว +20

      true, RTX 4080 Mobile is using AD104 that is also used by RTX4070TI and RTX4070 desktop variant. RTX 4090 mobile is using AD103 that is used in RTX4080 desktop variant.

    • @TheDarksideFNothing
      @TheDarksideFNothing ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It's pretty clear Nvidia just bumped the names of their laptop chips up one tier.

  • @oleksandrveklych
    @oleksandrveklych ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Whould be very interesting to compare Laptop 4080 VS Desktop 4070/4070ti since they share the same GPU die.

  • @xtradi
    @xtradi ปีที่แล้ว +461

    The cost for desktop should also include similar display, speaker, and keyboard vs laptop

    • @Ghost-hs6qq
      @Ghost-hs6qq ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yeah that would be helpful

    • @sumawardhen198
      @sumawardhen198 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      Well, even it included. Although it may cost same. I believe desktop is way better overall. Better display, better speaker, everything else

    • @paulolourenco4859
      @paulolourenco4859 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      100% agree

    • @KangoV
      @KangoV ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I've had the same screens/mouse/keyboards across my last 3 desktops. So no, don't include them.

    • @itsmedohh699
      @itsmedohh699 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Those are user variant, raw performance is only what's compared here

  • @YangBalanceYin
    @YangBalanceYin ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Dude modern day laptops are nuts... Of course the desktop is (almost) always going to come out on top, but you're looking at a totally acceptable competitor at 1/8th the size factor (including monitors, keyboards, etc for the desktop.) and half the wattage. Desktops are always going to be the "way to go" in terms of raw power (and usually price), but damn have these laptops come far.

    • @gman7497
      @gman7497 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah I don't think direct comparisons are that useful coz laptops and desktops are basically two separate markets. High end Desktops are for people that want the absolute best possible set-up, upgradeability, and space is not an concern. Gaming laptops are for people that travel or have multiple places they stay in, but don't want the hassle of moving a desktop everywhere.. they'll sacrifice some performance and upgradeability for convenience.

    • @BW022
      @BW022 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gman7497 Bingo. If you have a big screen TV or gaming monitor to game on... well... what is the point of a laptop. The 40" to 75" monitor isn't portable, so you might as well put a PC under it. Likewise, if you want a portable device, why lug a big gaming laptop around when a tablet, Surface, or light laptop is fine. It takes an odd use case where you have multiple big monitors/workstations to plug something into and yet need to bring a device between them. Business travel for someone needed a powerful PC is more common, but that kind of graphics is typically overkill.

    • @boost91
      @boost91 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And then when you're at home you can hook it to an external monitor and plugged that monitor directly into an EGP u enclosure with minimal performance hit using your laptops CPU Indecently have a docking station with full powered desktop card when you're at home... By I used QHD monitor and like new do 4080GPU spend 7052 a $100 on the EGPU and I don't know maybe a 150 on a power supply... Now you're literally within 5% of the desktop card and then can unplug and be at 25% of the performance while on the go...

  • @openboxtherapy1010
    @openboxtherapy1010 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for making all of these comparison videos so informative!

  • @poppys33d
    @poppys33d ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Hey Jarrod, - thanks for all the reviews. Most helpful. I just picked up a new Legion 7 Gen 8 with the 4080/13900HX, 32GB DDR5-5600 etc, and can validate that the 1% lows are just awful on this machine. The occasional stutters are absolutely crazy-making, especially since the average is so good. I can't figure out exactly what's going on. I. even under-volted the CPU to ensure no thermal throttling, so it's not that. Compared to my 13700K+4090+DDR4 desktop it's a much inferior experience just because of those 1% lows. Do we have any idea what's going on here?

    • @adrian_kaye
      @adrian_kaye 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have the same problem on my 4090 laptop

  • @Rykaas
    @Rykaas ปีที่แล้ว +48

    The desktop version is basically as big as the laptop itself. I'm not surprised by the difference in performance, or rather I am but in favor of the laptop version being so tiny yet so performing with reasonable temperatures

    • @fugginrambo
      @fugginrambo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly, when Jays two Cents showed the size comparison over the years I was blown away at the 4090s size.

    • @nigstar1239
      @nigstar1239 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I mean like, yes, but 5 years ago we had Rog G703s with gtx1080s actually OUTMATCHING the desktop gtx1080

    • @tomtang8708
      @tomtang8708 ปีที่แล้ว

      well. The cooler size has benefits of lower temperature and hence lower noise. So for desktop I actually prefer largher cooler for desktop use in exchange for lower noise, which is very important for the actual expericence, especially with a good pair of speakers.

    • @Rykaas
      @Rykaas ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tomtang8708 A desktop pc is better for many reasons and I personally prefer it. I'm currently using a laptop because of my job and I have to move often otherwise a desktop would just be better. Quiter, cooler, more performant for the price, if you want to upgrade something you just have to buy the single piece, and last but not least, you can build it however you want and specifically to your needs

    • @fidelisitor8953
      @fidelisitor8953 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Laptop version would perform much better if NVIDIA wasn't so cunning and had put the same die and vram as the desktop version. If they did, the only difference between laptop and desktop would've been in TGP.

  • @Glebanakonda921
    @Glebanakonda921 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    It would be interesting to see comparison between 4080 desktop and 4090 laptop as they have very similar chip. Also NEO seems to be quite poorly cooled by air as most other 4090 and 4080 laptops don't hit temp limit on GPU, though they are much louder

  • @ariffmus
    @ariffmus ปีที่แล้ว

    very useful comparison n presentation! thanks for ur hardwork!

  • @AdrianRusu95
    @AdrianRusu95 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    It would be nice to see a comparison between the RTX 4090 Laptop vs the RTX 4080 Desktop since they use similar chips. Great video by the way!

    • @FelpsJesus
      @FelpsJesus ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same here 😊

    • @nero5303
      @nero5303 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      4080M vs 4080..
      Only Big thing we easily to see here, that they had not same Die note GPU..
      - AD104 vs Newer AD103 (?) Seriously ?

    • @SindreS
      @SindreS ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Totally agree..
      Also please compare these two:
      "X13 Flow with XG Mobile 3080"
      vs "4080 Laptop" aka Mobile
      ...many of us are considering cheap-ish 3080 while in stock (or used)

    • @imnotdavidxnsx
      @imnotdavidxnsx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And because the laptop 4090 is the true successor to the laptop 3080. NIVIDA moved the naming scheme over one notch in the laptops to get people to pay more for less. That's why you can get a 4090 in a laptop this generation but you could only get up to a 3080 before.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      A few people have asked for it, so it'll be coming up this week.

  • @resolutesatyr
    @resolutesatyr ปีที่แล้ว +47

    The level of quality and professionalism of Jarrod’s videos is unparalleled 👌

  • @1Nynja
    @1Nynja 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great comparison. I think including the avg energy cost comparison would show that the laptop really is a eco friendly solution in the long term. That desktop build is going to draw around 700w at best, whereas the laptop is around 330w max.

    • @DeepInsideZettaiRyouiki
      @DeepInsideZettaiRyouiki หลายเดือนก่อน

      EXACTLY what i was saying about operational costs. 180% more power for 33% of frame boost (looking from laptop GPU side) ...GLHF

  • @mastergilgalad
    @mastergilgalad ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparison video. Thanks a lot. I am missing a benchmark where you undervolt the desktop gpu till it’s nearly drawing as much power than the mobile does. Would be great to see how they performe with similar power usage.

  • @2163216
    @2163216 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Jarrod, any update on when your deals website will cover other regions? I don't know what's going on with the market but it seems like whenever a tech TH-camr shows awesome Newegg/Bestbuy laptop deals for like 2,5k$ they are like 4,5k€ in Europe...I thought the whole world is getting hit hard by inflation but I guess Europe is even worse off...or something weird is going on with dealer pricing over here. Kinda ridiculous, anyway would love to see your website cover more areas soon TM.

  • @brah_ddah
    @brah_ddah ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think these videos that call out the lameness of the same product name across laptop and desktop are important.
    I’d like to see same chip comparisons. So a laptop 4090 and desktop 4080 for example.

  • @KartikoKurnianto
    @KartikoKurnianto ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They should bring back the "M" suffix on nvidia mobile GPU

  • @gravity1287
    @gravity1287 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job man!

  • @ttkttk7463
    @ttkttk7463 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey Jarrod, how good are those TRACER VII EDGE I17E LC 17 laptops from cyberpowerPC? They seem to be cheaper with the new 4080m, 4090m gpus and they are also water cooled. I couldn't find any review of them.

    • @heroofharo
      @heroofharo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It should perform similar to the machine in this video.

    • @blasianking4827
      @blasianking4827 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are likely resold Clevo/Tongfang laptops, just like the XMG Neo in the video. I think they should be fine.

  • @RyneLanders
    @RyneLanders ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I think the more relevant comparison is the laptop RTX 4090 which is basically the desktop RTX 4080. I'd like to see what a top-TDP system like the MSI Titan can do, and then a more thin and light mainstream offering like the Razer Blade or Zephyrus M16 can do so we have some ranges to explore.

  • @adityaapte3845
    @adityaapte3845 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very helpful video!

  • @kronfle111
    @kronfle111 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hello Jarrod! What about a video of 4070 vs 4080 laptops, but just with the dlss3 and/or FG also enabled. So we can see if the difference after those options are still pretty big, or if those options reduce the gap between both. Thanks as always!!

  • @KASSIBRS
    @KASSIBRS ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent vid

  • @007arundass007
    @007arundass007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks a lot!!

  • @FoxxFire
    @FoxxFire ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know it's too much work, but I'll just throw it out there -- at least highlighting and pointing out the median when you do the multi-game fps comparison at different resolutions might be more valuable than focusing solely on the average. The reason is that there are a few outliers that are affecting the average noticeably enough that the average is not necessarily as representative of the difference as the median would. Anyway, this is a dumb comment, but i've been thinking this each time I watch one of your videos (which I love, BTW; i watch them all), so i figured I would mention it at least one time.....Have a great weekend man.

    • @sorrai
      @sorrai ปีที่แล้ว

      This wasn't a dumb comment at all, I agree with this take heavily.

  • @bashbromayhem
    @bashbromayhem ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see what kind of laptop you'd have to get to meet and exceed the legendary 1080TI desktop card. I realize that may be an unreasonable test, just a wild wonder of mine

  • @mridupawandeka6456
    @mridupawandeka6456 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please compare rtx 4080 laptop with 4070 desktop and rtx 4090 laptop with 4070ti desktop, will be very same I think

  • @DONUTT360
    @DONUTT360 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @JarrodsTech I read somewhere that the 1% low issue with Forza Horizon 5 is because of G-Sync. Playing the game at fixed refresh rate fixes the issue.

  • @danielm2808
    @danielm2808 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The difference in power usage means ill be sticking to laptops, i’ll just make sure i watch your video reviews before i buy another, although i really don’t need one right now, so it’ll be a while. Maybe when the 50XX GPU’s are out or my current one breaks.

  • @HaloblackopsTenken
    @HaloblackopsTenken ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was hoping for a rtx 4080 laptop vs 3080 desktop 😢

    • @stanislavsidorovich6242
      @stanislavsidorovich6242 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can see the comparison of these cards at notebookcheck (TH-cam removes the full link), in general 4080 laptop is faster in some games, slower in others. Same for benchmarks

  • @jackali5014
    @jackali5014 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    RTX 4080 laptop should be %34 cheaper than desktop

  • @Pashaev..
    @Pashaev.. ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Jarrod. I know the video content is different but I have a question. Will there be just Legion 5 2023 version or do I have to buy Legion 5 Pro?

    • @tizurl
      @tizurl ปีที่แล้ว

      5 pro will be the only version, as far as they’ve announced yet, when they announced pcs in january they only announced 7/i pro and 5/i pro

  • @HeroLincAirsoft
    @HeroLincAirsoft ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video but next time I would like to see some actual gameplay with the fps counter and thermals on the side.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  ปีที่แล้ว

      I've discussed why I don't show gameplay here: jarrods.tech/why-i-dont-show-game-play-for-benchmarks/

    • @HeroLincAirsoft
      @HeroLincAirsoft ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jarrod'sTech that's some great reasoning for why you don't, but I generally like to see the info happening in front of me, but yeah, you do you!

  • @madcapper6
    @madcapper6 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have driver updates stabilized the framerates on the laptop 4080 since this vid came out as far as the 1% lows go?

  • @hallohallodu100
    @hallohallodu100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Jarrod, I really enjoy your content! So, I have a question: Are you planning to do a comparison of the 4090 vs. 4080 vs. 4070 vs. 4060 on the XMG NEO 16 platform ? Also, will there be a bigger NEO 16 Review coming any time soon ? Thanks (:

  • @SteveEricJordan
    @SteveEricJordan ปีที่แล้ว +5

    to me personally nvidia is just borderline scamming people by naming their mobile gpus like their desktop gpus. theyre factually not the same products. bring back the "rtx 4080m" or at least max q naming scheme or people will trust you less year by year. if the laptop 4090 ist weaker than a desktop 4070 something is REALLY wrong.

  • @muzzamilraza3793
    @muzzamilraza3793 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, I wanted to ask you that you should make a video on laptops we can buy right now
    And if it's okay to buy laptop with RTX 30 series or we should wait for RTX 40 series laptops

  • @antondovydaitis2261
    @antondovydaitis2261 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you again.

  • @evenfrost
    @evenfrost 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was looking for videos about RTX 4080 Laptop, clicked on this one and saw you wearing the t-shirt of my favourite band. Instant like! Also, thanks for the great video :)

  • @henrikg1388
    @henrikg1388 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is quite interesting when you think about it. Of course, there is a big difference between laptop and desktop and there will always be. The question is if it will matter for so much longer. Today's laptops consume 175W of TGP. I recollect that high-end desktops in the Pascal-generation were about the same. Other features makes the difference smaller.
    So laptops aren't that much worse. They are about two generations behind, sometimes less, which is impressive, because who wouldn't prefer laptop gaming if not for the perf difference and the upgradeability? The problem is that nVidia now charge outrageous prices for their mislabeled cards and AMD isn't putting up a fight. Only two years ago, at the mining boom, you got an equally performing laptop for the same or less. Not anymore.
    Still, and people will get angry with this opinion, I foresee the laptop market taking more market shares at the expense of desktops. Maybe tablets, mobiles or consoles will gain. I don't know. I only know that hobbyism isn't a sellying point anymore. How many end-users run Linux? And it is a fact that the laptop format is way more practical.

  • @farniarezazadeh5292
    @farniarezazadeh5292 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey jarrod.on what settings do you test battery life?do you turn on battery saver?because my legion 5 with 6600h and rtx3060 without battery saver lasts for about 4:30 but with battery saver lasts for 6 to 7 hour and still wont reach the 8 hour in your test.battery is 80whr.I appreciate it if you answer😊😊
    Great videos by the way❤❤❤

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  ปีที่แล้ว

      You can find how i run battery tests here: jarrods.tech/list-of-laptop-battery-life/

  • @Piketom1
    @Piketom1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Suddenly I miss the days when NVIDIA used MaxQ to designate the laptop version of the cards. At least it was clear to average customers that the desktop and laptop graphics cards were two distinct lines of products.

    • @nigstar1239
      @nigstar1239 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro now all laptops gpus are maxq. The Titan of today, the MSI GT77 HX, is sooo much lighter and smaller than the gt75

  • @alexjunior6463
    @alexjunior6463 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hope in next videos you might consider comparing more logical, rather "nvidian" style . 4090 laptop vs 4080 desktop, 4080 laptop vs 4070ti desktop

  • @kenny.lyh108
    @kenny.lyh108 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3 months later in my country, there is MSI with their 1970 USD converted, 12900HX RTX4080 selling here. It's probably a bit weaker than the model you shown here but the price difference is massive. I'm definitely getting that laptop since it's so much cheaper now

  • @Sajad5776
    @Sajad5776 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn we didn't know you're are fan of ENSIFERUM. That's really cool dude!!!

  • @pqlamzpqlamzpqlamzpqalzm5370
    @pqlamzpqlamzpqlamzpqalzm5370 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still think it's easier to upgrade a laptop because it's easier to sell as long as you take care of it as compared to upgrading parts per piece off of a desktop. But hey everyone has their own preferences .

    • @urulooke
      @urulooke ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I fully agree with you. I keep hearing about how PC is upgradeable, but it's not been my experience. CPU on my desktop died 2 months ago - it was Core i5 6600k. But I can't install a new CPU on that motherboard, so I have to replace it as well. Turns out it's hard to find a mini ITX motherboard that fits in my case with Noctua NH-D15, so I might have to get a new CPU cooler too. I'd be happy to swap GTX 1070 for a newer GPU on the occasion, but find me one that provides at least +50% FPS while still being 2 slots and not taking more power, because so far I was running 450 W SFX power supply perfectly fine. Looks like I need a new case and a new power supply then. I guess I could keep my DDR4 RAM, but perhaps if I'm already replacing the entire PC then I should go DDR5? So the only component of my PC that can be re-used in a new PC is the NVME SSD drive.

  • @lalitsehgal21
    @lalitsehgal21 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pls compare laptop 4090 as well to desktop 4080 and 4090 too..thanks

  • @rishiduke
    @rishiduke ปีที่แล้ว +2

    pls compare desktop 4070ti and laptop 4080 since there is only 3% or so difference in cuda cores.

  • @zen2135
    @zen2135 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My question is: Can a 4080 liquid cooled laptop provide a better visual experience on a 4k LG C1 OLED TV than a Xbox Series X when running upcoming games such as Starfield, Diablo IV, GTA VI, etc ?
    I mean, is it worth ditching XSX for a laptop or just stick with it for gaming a get 'random' heavily discounted laptop for portability and AutoCAD/Solidworks workloads ?

    • @vladdx
      @vladdx ปีที่แล้ว

      No doubt a laptop with 4080 offers a better visual experience using the same screen when compared to a Series X, the XSX is comparable to a laptop with a RTX 4060 at best.

  • @shlyfy
    @shlyfy ปีที่แล้ว

    How is the xmg neo notebook compared to regular lenovo legion? i mean built quality and temperatures?

  • @aaz1992
    @aaz1992 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got a deal on an Aorus 17H with 4080 for only $1990 USD. Amazing price-to-performance

  • @antoniocortese4471
    @antoniocortese4471 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Jarrod i have a question for u. I have msi raider ge78hx 4080 i9 13950hx. While playing on external 4k monitor on max settings my gpu temp il like 84-87° C with max fan speed (80ish on 2k laptop monitor) which i guess is in line with your video. Why i keep seeing online laptop reviews with 75ish degrees then?

  • @4535G
    @4535G ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As expected, 4080 desktop has 30% more CUDA cores than 4080 mobile and it also clocks 15-20% higher. Translate to 35 to 45% more performance.

    • @DeepInsideZettaiRyouiki
      @DeepInsideZettaiRyouiki หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea... and eats 180% of power. Add this into calculation, 5 years of power bills. GL HF

  • @shanemouton7606
    @shanemouton7606 ปีที่แล้ว

    What does the 4080 laptop gpu performs closest to in terms of your tests when compared to a desktop gpu?

  • @abhigyandatta13
    @abhigyandatta13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Should compare 4080 of with 4090 laptop as they’re are the same chip. Good video though

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  ปีที่แล้ว

      That video should be coming up this week!

  • @therealbilaal8758
    @therealbilaal8758 ปีที่แล้ว

    will you be getting the g16 in anytime soon?

  • @MrSullivan369
    @MrSullivan369 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really Good video!

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks!

  • @tride536
    @tride536 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please compare same laptop with internal Rtx 4080 and when it's connected to external desktop rtx 4080 via USB-c.
    I'm curious if it's worth getting any laptop that can better utilize the external rtx 4080 graphics than internal one and get that one for gaming and 3d modeling at home.

    • @ACE112ACE112
      @ACE112ACE112 ปีที่แล้ว

      like an external gpu enclosure? if so I wouldn't recommend it. the gpu will have worse performance due to bandwidth constraints and the enclusure can be expensive

  • @app1mxh
    @app1mxh ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. I feel that the industry should change names based on wattage. It will make purchasing decisions much easier.

  • @kostanos
    @kostanos ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you include the external GPU to comparison too? I mean having ultra portable laptop + eGPU how will it perform comparing to desktop and gaming laptop.
    Also in terms of price

    • @gersongaete1574
      @gersongaete1574 ปีที่แล้ว

      No external Gpus work as well as having it internally connected via a pcie. USB4 just can't keep up, the most you can use is a 3060ti, above that and you'll be paying for no extra performance.

  • @veer019
    @veer019 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Jarrod

  • @amirmousawi9156
    @amirmousawi9156 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video. Can you review the framework laptop and show us its performance.

  • @arjayaisis4928
    @arjayaisis4928 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi do u have a vid about switching adpater or gpu, cos may laptop has intel and nvdia, my valorant is lagging done all basic ts, but i think its not the ts, something is not working with my graphics? Is there a way to fix this?

  • @wazkangz955
    @wazkangz955 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very similar to 3070ti laptop and desktop comparison Jarrod did a while ago. This mid area of gpu’s are where desktop and laptop are more equal.

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon ปีที่แล้ว

      nope, 3070 ti laptop was only 17% slower, this one is like 40-50% slower. Because there isn't much difference in specs between the laptop and desktop 3070 ti, but a big difference in specs here.

  • @hardwarevsgaming
    @hardwarevsgaming ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wonder why Nvidia didn't used a trimmed down version of AD102 for RTX 4090 laptop GPU and cutdown AD103 for 4080 laptop GPU (and so on) instead... 🤔

    • @t1e6x12
      @t1e6x12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The reason starts with an m and ends with a y

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's AD103 for 4090m and AD104 for 4080m actually. The reason is greed.

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon ปีที่แล้ว

      @Captain_Morgan Yes it would. The higher the clockspeeds are, the less energy efficient a chip is, and the lower the clockspeeds are, the more energy efficient it is. Look at a 70 watt RTX 3060 - it still has about 80% of the desktop 3060 performance - because it has more cores, despite working at just 40% the power limit.

    • @hardwarevsgaming
      @hardwarevsgaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TabalugaDragon yes, they used a 1 tier down GPU chip for each segment for laptops. On top of that each chip is "nerfed". Why not used a nerfed Ad102 for 4090 laptop / nerfed ad103 for 4080 laptop etc... At least it's the same GPU chip as its desktop counterpart.

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hardwarevsgaming if by "nerfed" you mean "downclocked with the same number of cores" then I agree. Cutting down the cuda core count is always a bad idea, as seen on the laptop 3070.

  • @sellipgaming5167
    @sellipgaming5167 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Jarrod.. I'm not really all into tech, so I don't know the difference between cpus but I got the legion 5 rtx 3060, ryzen 5 6600H, but you reviewed the ryzen 7, do you think it's all that difference in gaming???

    • @urulooke
      @urulooke ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not a big difference - Ryzen 5 6600H should be awesome for gaming! I have 1 year older model Legion 5 Pro with RTX 3060 and Ryzen 5 5600H at home and it's great for gaming.

    • @sellipgaming5167
      @sellipgaming5167 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@urulooke thanks!

  • @markssali7528
    @markssali7528 ปีที่แล้ว

    yo videos are great the problem is you never put any productivity test

  • @kirkh4205
    @kirkh4205 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well all the tests that I've seen, that compare the laptop 4080 to a desktop 4070 seem to show near identical performance. What I can't seem to verify is the GDDR type. Because the desktop 4070 and 4070Ti both use GDDR6X but I've seen varying answers, does the Laptop 4080 (aka desktop 4070) also use GDDR6X?

  • @SindreS
    @SindreS ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We have come to a point of laptop are cheaper than a desktop
    I would love a comparison of these two:
    "X13 Flow with XG Mobile 3080"
    vs "4080 Laptop" aka Mobile
    ...many of us are considering cheap-ish 3080 while in stock (or used)

    • @SindreS
      @SindreS ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also please 4090 Laptop vs 4080 Desktop

  • @Pouria_1664
    @Pouria_1664 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    yeah... seems about right. 4070 die power limited and called a 4080. typical nvidia

  • @rolandlefartere9851
    @rolandlefartere9851 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For a fairer comparison,put that desktop and monitor inside a bag and lug it around all day and see if there's a difference...

  • @CMDR_MAJIC
    @CMDR_MAJIC ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Jarrod we already know the naming is irrelevant and I don't need to watch the video to know that the desktop obliterates the laptop 4080. What would be far more interesting is comparing the most powerful laptop to its nearest desktop equivalent based on their specs (not the branding). The Laptop 4090 and desktop 4080 have the same core count and silicon. It would be more interesting to see how much the laptop 4090 is limited by its lower power draw and any cutbacks to the chip design such as fewer RT cores and how much is the discrepancy with ray tracing enabled vs pure rasterisation performance.

  • @davidulmer9774
    @davidulmer9774 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got the Asus Strix G18 4080 about 3 weeks ago for $2499 ($2749 after taxes 😡) and it's a beast. Cyberpunk 2077 1080p and 1440p Ultra RT just kills it with no stutters and it barely gets warm. Thermal Grizzly liquid metal on the cpu and gpu makes a world of difference.
    I haven't run any benchmarks on this one myself since there are a ton of those videos, but worth a look.

    • @PUBG830
      @PUBG830 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey I'm also planning to buy the ASUS ROG STRIX G18
      RTX 4080 Varient
      But I have seen that alot of people having the issue of Screen backlight bleed
      And coil wine
      So Can you tell me that is there
      Type of Problem with yours
      Like screenbleed or coil wine

    • @davidulmer9774
      @davidulmer9774 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PUBG830 I don't have coil whine with mine I don't think, I have tinnitus so I may just not be hearing it, but my fans so far hardly ever come on past the slowest speeds (except in Stranded Deep for some reason).
      As far as the backlight bleed, I haven't noticed it, however the backlight is super bright. If your browsing a page that has allot of white on it, it's way too bright.
      Sorry can't help much, I'm old, blind, and hard of hearing lol.

    • @PUBG830
      @PUBG830 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidulmer9774 thanks❤️

  • @elleilvape
    @elleilvape ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please compare 4080 laptop vs 3080ti desktop

  • @zerosumdkp
    @zerosumdkp ปีที่แล้ว +4

    About what I expected. Given the 4090 mobile is around 10 to 15% faster than the 4080 mobile, while the 4090 desktop is around 30% faster than a 4080 desktop, it makes sense that the gap between a 4080 mobile versus desktop is narrower than the gap between a 4090 mobile versus desktop. It would be interesting to make a comparison between the 4090 mobile and the 4080 desktop or the 4070ti.

    • @Joaaaaaaaaaaa
      @Joaaaaaaaaaaa ปีที่แล้ว +2

      4090 mobile is a 4070ti basically

    • @vmafarah9473
      @vmafarah9473 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Joaaaaaaaaaaa RAW performance wise , a 4070ti desktop can match 4090 laptop.

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Joaaaaaaaaaaa nope, has 33% more memory.

  • @elixier33
    @elixier33 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the RTX 4080 in my laptop and no matter the differences it really really does move. I'm extremely happy with it

  • @anynomous11111
    @anynomous11111 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can you compare cards with the same dye like desktop 4080 with laptop 4090

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That should be coming up this week.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I plan on releasing that this week.

    • @anynomous11111
      @anynomous11111 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JarrodsTech thanks❤️

  • @cutcorners6005
    @cutcorners6005 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1% lows are so much worse on laptop. There is a high variance from avg fps and that will feel so bad.

    • @vmafarah9473
      @vmafarah9473 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ihv noticed too.

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon ปีที่แล้ว

      hence you shouldn't buy i9 for gaming. i7 with less cores would be a better choice. Or a 12 core Ryzen.

  • @stanislavsidorovich6242
    @stanislavsidorovich6242 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great comparison, well done

  • @Blue-fh4np
    @Blue-fh4np ปีที่แล้ว

    jarrod u doing legion 2023 vs 2022 this year?

  • @dp27thelight9
    @dp27thelight9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    rtx 4090 laptop vs the rtx 4080 desktop would be much more interesting as they're both ad103.
    I think in that comparison the laptop would look much more impressive.

    • @killerra
      @killerra ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah and desktop 4070 Ti vs laptop 4080 makes way more sense given the latter is a lower voltage 4070 Ti with 256 shaders missing.

    • @dp27thelight9
      @dp27thelight9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@killerra Ya be much more interesting seeing the apples to apples comparisons. Rather then comparing to different gpus.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  ปีที่แล้ว

      it'll be coming up this week!

  • @c0r5e
    @c0r5e 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The only golden gaming laptop years were around 2018-2021 when the only difference between laptop and desktop CPU was the clocks and power consumption

  • @zac.le4869
    @zac.le4869 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi guys, any suggestions for a great all rounder laptop that has decent battery life (6hr ish browsing chrome and ms word/excel) and decent gaming performance (medium-high setting at 1080p 70ish FPS) thank you a lot

    • @Rykaas
      @Rykaas ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lenovo Legion 5.
      The Legion 5 pro is in case you're looking for something more (the one i own, ez 100-120fps at 2k) Most MSI or ASUS will do just as fine, I just personally love the overall build quality of the Lenovos

    • @prateekpanwar646
      @prateekpanwar646 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You’d need to tell budget. In my country last gen gpu options are:
      1. HP Omen 16 - i7 13700h, 3060 6GB - 144hz
      2. HP Omen 16 - Ryzen 7 5800H, RX 6600m 8GB - 144hz
      3. Lenovo Legion 5 - i7 13700h - 3060 6GB - 165hz
      Legion and Omen are absolutely best performers in thermals, mux switch, display colors…. Although you can also go for ASUS ROG, Zephyrus.
      I’d suggest to get at least 8GB VRAM tho as it will be better in long run.
      For battery, It’s hard to have 6hr battery life in any gaming laptop.

    • @princehariz7859
      @princehariz7859 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amd 6800h / amd 7735 can give u 7 hours youtube

  • @morgoth7180
    @morgoth7180 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd like to see a 4070ti desktop vs 4080 laptop...that feels to be a good comparison

    • @darkslaerdark
      @darkslaerdark 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      4070ti desktop is better than 4080 laptop.

  • @daystarcreations
    @daystarcreations ปีที่แล้ว

    Paid 2200$ shipped for the legion 7i pro with rtx 4080, will be putting in 2 TB SSD and upgrading the ram when it arrives. I was diagnosed with MS this last year and can no longer build my own rigs/sit at a desk comfortably so this made a lot of sense for me and was most practical for my situation. Also 2200$ for the legion 7i gen 8 is a great deal in general.

  • @championsofodin9868
    @championsofodin9868 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that the same laptop as eluktronics mech 16 gp?

  • @gucky4717
    @gucky4717 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It would be more interesting comparing 2 GPUs with the same DIE: 4090 Mobile with 4080 Desktop and undervolt the Desktop GPU to be close or match the 4090 Mobile in powerdraw.

    • @ChristianBrugger
      @ChristianBrugger ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree, especially with undertcolting!

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon ปีที่แล้ว

      you won't match the laptop one by just undervolting it. You'd also have to underclock it as well or limit the wattage.

  • @pingm24
    @pingm24 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can someone help me, i have a dilemma where im thinking to replace my desktop i5 12600k 2080, with an atleast i7 13th gen and 4080 laptop, due to laptops being toned down, would it still be an increase in performance and would it be able to replace my desktop, still gonna be using monitors and peripherals once im home fore sure

  • @prajjwaltiwari8644
    @prajjwaltiwari8644 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There's no point of high end GPU for me. Most I'll be able to afford is a 3050 or 4050 laptop. So Jarrod, when can we expect a video on that??

    • @mrbobgamingmemes9558
      @mrbobgamingmemes9558 ปีที่แล้ว

      I barely find rtx 4050 laptop axepecially on budget gaming laptop like asus tuf, acer nitro, hp victus, etc on my country

  • @martinhristov1808
    @martinhristov1808 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you please do all of these games with dlss and frame generation?

  • @DarkKnight2037
    @DarkKnight2037 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honestly, should compare laptop 4090 with the desktop 4080, judging based on everything, iam guessing diff may be around 20-25%? As if they couldnt put the chipset according to name for laptops as well.. so stupid and sneaky by Nvidia

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  ปีที่แล้ว

      I should have that comparison up this week.

  • @residentevil999
    @residentevil999 ปีที่แล้ว

    i hope u can make video about rtx 3070 vs xsx vs ps5 in games that exits in 3 platform

  • @sokpanhanov8036
    @sokpanhanov8036 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you do a comparison between Intel i9 13980hx vs amd r9 7945hx laptop cpu please

  • @boost91
    @boost91 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My old 1070 ASUS finally bit the dust and right now I can get open box in excellent condition M16R1 with 7845HX and 4080 or $1650... 16 gig Ram pre-installed is a minor bummer but 50 bucks I'll fix that 1 TB SSD240 hurts QHD16 inch display.... Really think and I'm gonna go for it, how are you 4080 laptop owners feeling with your purchases? What did you all get as you set up would you pay and how you liking it?

  • @r_turner
    @r_turner ปีที่แล้ว

    Does being in a Air Conditioned Room with 18-20° temperature help in cooling the components for air cooling ? As Fan could literally suck Cold air than just normal room temperature

    • @knightacedia
      @knightacedia ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Believe it or not and i know its pretty hard to believe but ambient temp does in fact affect component cooling.

    • @mrbobgamingmemes9558
      @mrbobgamingmemes9558 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It does, i notice different cpu and gpu temp difference just by played cities skylines when playing at day and at night on room without air conditioning just regular fan

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. the temp of the room you're in will effect the results, which is why I do my temp testing in a temperature controlled room.

  • @princejaiswal6487
    @princejaiswal6487 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make a video both laptop desktop best graphics card performance show

  • @ACE112ACE112
    @ACE112ACE112 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:08 why does power affect 1% lows?

  • @dd22koopaesverde58
    @dd22koopaesverde58 ปีที่แล้ว

    What the diferencie of 1650 laptop vs desktop

  • @bjornodendaal8752
    @bjornodendaal8752 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about comparing 4080 desktop with Lenovo Legion 9i with built in Liquid cooling?