Tuned Toyota Supra GR vs Tuned BMW 340i. You can park The Titanic in between. Drag and Roll Race
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- Tuned Toyota Supra GR vs Tuned BMW 340i. You can park The Titanic in between. Drag and Roll Race
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Agreed. That Supra should have smacked that 340 from a roll. Seeing the 340 on the roll lunge back it’s pushing more hp & trq then listed.
There is no way that m340 has 500bhp with upgrade turbos it has a lot more hp then that
Maybe 1000whp?
That BMW needs to show a recent dyno , it is way too fast for the mentioned HP .... Seems like a 10 second 1/4 mile car .. Left the BMW Stupra for dead ..
@@SamCarLegion 😄
You have to get these owners to start providing credible numbers (e.g. dyno sheets). There is just no way those numbers are accurate
Yes. This channel is losing credibility
@@tanthaman stfu you keep saying the same thing everywhere, just stop watching if you feel that way
Exaclty I own a Supra and have a lot of experience with B58 cars in general and a 340i on a hybrid turbo isn’t making 500 it’s more like 500whp and that’s being really conservative.
I agree
Stage 2 on a B58 is about 450 bhp. Stage 3 is usually around the 560 bhp mark, minimum, but it depends what turbo and fuel pump has been used, some Stage 3 cars are well over 600 bhp
If we assume the Supra is 450bhp then that 340i must be more like 600 to pull so hard even from a roll.
Quantity over quality for this channel, but I won't poke holes without offering some solutions:
1. Get the owners to write down their exact mods prior to coming out (ex. A stage 1 tune vs fully swapped turbos and custom tune is a HUGE difference)
2. A couple of Dragy devices would be $400 in total and would add some much needed context and valid data
Just those two changes which require a little more time and investment would make all these videos drastically more credible. I really do appreciate how hard Sam and the team work to get all these cars out and if they combine that effort with a bit more due diligence, the videos would be really awesome.
I agree 100%. Idk why he doesn't have a dragy or two for actual numbers.
Sam said in one of the videos that the racebox is not working there because it's an Airport or something. I doubt it because if they have GPS signal racebox should work there.
exThe 340i said it has hybrid turbos so it probably has a much better torque curve compared to the Supra?
Bro your totally right that 340i is 500+ that driver anit real.... this coming from someone who's into his cars and owner
Yea 0-60 times would be cool
Same motor but one has an upgraded turbo. No way they would make the same HP numbers in that case. You need to check drivers when they claim HP.
Or the supra is making less more than claimed
Turbo not turbos they both have a single scroll turbo.
@@ganuv You made me edit my comment 😂 I was a bit heated cause most BM drivers say they are stock or only a tune. They are very fast cars either way 👍
Not exactly the same engine, but they are close
the info is completely accurate, the f30 340i has an earlier gen b58 engine with a downgraded fuel system and makes less power with its turbo, iirc the charged air is cooled with coolant on the newer b58. It is less capable and needs all those mods to make that power.
Ah yes - hybrid turbos and a fuel pump to make "500HP" :/ I'd believe it if he said it actually made 700HP.
Definitely not 700 lmao. But more like 600bhp ~530whp
@@Badmon.Bryann 600 whp is making
Guy on top is right
It’s a single turbo ya head
340i owner is such liar, I have a stage 2 340i that makes 440whp, that 340i makes 500+whp. hate guys who lie on a platform that is supposed to be informational.
No lies.the 340 is probably awD..the Supra is probably making less up.
@@harisjaved1379 which makes the roll races even more absurd. AWD means it’s heavier than a RWD model. Supra is what it claims. 340 driver sandbagging the race to make himself look better
Did you read the modifications? It's very clearly a stage 2+ considering he has a hybrid turbo....
And depending on where you tune it, you'll squeeze out more or less power.
That 340i is more like stage 3 and the supra could of added way more mods
Love this channel, but something is off here…
I expected the BMW to win the dig and barely lose the roll, but this was very unexpected. Either the Supra owner is overstating HP or the BMW owner is understating HP. Understandable for the BMW to win from a dig w/ X-drive launch system, but he absolutely pulled on the Supra during the roll despite being heavier and AWD. One of the owners is lying about their figures, or there was another factor that made these races not make sense.
A tune with mods is an unfair comparison. Unless the $$$ used to mod were equal.
Bmw owner is under rating true horsepower.
This Bimmer beat a GTR, there is no way it only has 500HP.
No chance that thing is 500hp
Agreed. 100%. Not even CLOSE.
Samee I'd say he at least at 650hp bcs no way a lighter car with more power is getting dropped that fast
Supra probly has 500 crank while the 340 is pushing 500whp
Agree. It had upgraded turbos!!!!
X -drive + ZF shifter does its thing...
That BMW has way more then 500hp. The way it launch it can go head to head with a 911 turbo S. I bet he has a racebox that can show us his 1/4 mile times.
It's BMW horses, lol, so stronger than normal ones.
Ur trippin I guess u never seen a turbo s then 😂😂
@@darryltaylor8708 i don't need to see. The S does the 1/4 in 10.2 -10.4 carwow times. That bmw does it in the high 10 . The super cross the line 1 - 1.5 sec behind and it does the 1/4 stock 12.3. I'm not saying his going to win the turbo S . but he will be very close to him.
@@avis1978 keep in mind the Supra does a 12.3 AT BEST on a prepped track. This isn’t a prepped track. It probably did a high 12 on this run. Also that BMW isn’t running E-85 or meth, which is what it would need to keep up with the latest turbo s from a roll and stop
I’m also doubting that it’s a low 10 second car on pump.
That M340 likely does 10.5-10.6 @130
The turbo s does 9.9-10.3 at 137-140
@@avis1978 the same way the 340i just beat the Supra is the same thing that turbo s would do that 340i and did u see his numbers? Or ur guessing?
One of these two people are lying about their HP 😂
Exactly. And it’s the Supra owner. I own a Supra and know you can’t hit 500 on stock turbos and pump gas. 🤦♂️
@@hughesbalasanga9037 haha I was thinking the same thing. I own a Supra as well. Also think that 340 was probably making a little more than 500😅
@@STV3TA Precisely! The bimmer weighs 400 Lbs more, bigger turbo, fuel, etc and the Supra is running pump gas on a piggyback and they BOTH hit 500 and gets gapped like that? 🙄
Both of them are lol
Well… if you go back two weeks, the BMW raced another BMW and this time claimed to have 550BHP. Same car, same driver. Sooooooo… the owner is definitely lying. Last time the guy didn’t claim to have an upgraded turbo. Now, he does.
BMW is lying like crazy, way more than 500hp and its so obvious
Yes. This channel is losing credibility
that guy who's driving BMW 340i telling lies no way that car 500Hp
I mean it is a BMW - they lie too 😂
@@SamCarLegion sam they lie by 20 hp. I saw a dyno on the new stock supra and it pulls 402 hp. This guy has min 600hp and he does 10.5 - 11 sec.
That Supra owner is lying. 🤦♂️
It’s well known in the Supra community that you can’t get 500 HP on stock turbos and pump gas. He probably has like 430 HP or 450HP at best. And what the hell is a stage 2? The bimmer owner sounds about right with the pure turbo and upgrades. Time to find a new Supra owner
Exactly I own a Supra with an OTS 93 tune and downpipe and the car makes around 425whp. If it was a custom tune it would be anywhere from 450-460whp and on E50 it would be at 500whp. Since both cars have the same motor and claim the same power which they both aren’t with that Supra being more like 430whp and that 340i close to 600whp it’s a big difference which is why even the roll races aren’t close. Need more valid data in the video with times using a race box or draggy
@@muhammadabaad8923 Yeah, the BMW dude was in another video two weeks ago on this channel and he claimed to have 550 BHP. Never mentioned an upgraded turbo then. Now, he mentions he has an upgraded turbo with 50 less HP. This channel is losing its credibility.
Supra owner bought more stickers for the rear window , each one gives you 30HP !! Bwahaaaaaaaa
Lol at the title “tuned vs tuned”. The bmw has an upgraded turbo!
There is absolutely no way they are making the same power
@Jack Obviously… They have the same engine, but one of them has a big turbo…
It’s not tuned vs tuned
With a hybrid turbo on 340i your usually around 500 wheel hp or more if ethanol or port injection is involved. The 340i is making WAY more power then 500 or supra is piggyback and no e. I have a supra with flex e50 stage 2 ecutek tune and barely touch 500 wheel hp depending in the dyno. Somebody is full of it in this race. I wanna see a full mod list cause the 340 was moving.
He was moving like he had just over 600hp
The 340i has a hyrbrid turbo, maybe even if they have similar numbers the turbo in the 340i spool all the way to redline, idk but anyway that 340i has a hybrid turbo and it’s probably pushing more power
Supra owners love to claim big numbers when they actually pushing way less
I would say the car owners are quite sketchy with their mods.
yeah dude I think it's a combination of both the 340i is making will above 500 and the Supra is nowhere near it. this is the same slow ass supra that lost to that hellcat that had sketchy ass numbers too a week ago. probably not sam car legion, but definitely these owners are cap.
ACTUALLY… Sam already had this dude on two weeks ago racing another BMW and the dude claimed to have 550BHP. Now it’s 50HP less? 🤦♂️ Come on now… get it together.
Ya really, you would think Sam might ask that to the guy! Nope :(
It's the reason why I unsubscribed, content on this channel no longer makes sense.
Sam I suggest watching channels such as auto glory to learn more about the upgrades done to differnt cars. Tune vs tune is misleading in the title. I thought it would be a simple computer tune for both based on the title
600hp+ easy for the 340i. No doubt about that. 500 just sounds good when you tell it to your opponents
Agreed the BMW owner is a sandbagger !
That BMW is flying. It's gotta be 700 + whp on that thing
Yep
That 340 even on pump 93 with those mods is easily 550+ whp depending on which hybrid turbo and who tuned it. If hes running any ethanol its most likely closer to 600whp or even more. Thing moves
Brooooo your camera guy has insanee skill hats off to him 😭❤️
Yea, that Bimmer has more than 500hp. Too much of a gap for "similar numbers" and it weighs more. Maybe the XDrive is the reason but even on the rolls, the Bimmer pulls away hard on the Supra. SUS!
Love the race but that 340i definitely got lot more power than 500 bhp for sure. Even a stage 2 tune with a dp makes about 450 hp 😅
Yeah that supra doesn't have nearly 500hp looks like stock power
Nope not taking the 500 hp that is atleast 600 to 640 hp..
When the guy with the Supra said 500 hp and it clearly isn’t you should probably send him home and not even bother posting this video.
Keep the good content. This one was a giant swing and a miss.
The Supra isn’t the liar here lol the 340 is straight capping on his #’s
Both numbers are off. They probably have never dynoed them and are going off of what is expected along with some embellishments.
Description of the 340 is 🧢
It’s a monster
You should have that 340 vs that guy wth the hell cat in past videos
Talking about a total beat down! I guess the hybrid turbo got the job done!😄
Some Notes: The races are not uploaded in sequence. The M50 vs 340 race took place more recently. Hence why the Hp numbers are different in this race vs the other.
BMW 340i is making 500whp,now stop crying like babies
Seems like this video it’s hurting a lot of feelings.
Those B58 ain’t no joke
Haha that supra must have left some horses at the glue factory!
Cappin is the BMW way, seeing a prime example of it here in clear HD
Still don't believe the 340i have "500" BHP with upgraded turbos.
I don't see the physics on "paper" mirroring the actual truth🤣🤣
Man's lying about the 340 hp numbers. I've raced 500hp m cars and they were all slower than this one
This channel always have cars that look like they never have been washed.
Would u like to come and wash them?
That 340i definitely is sand bagging, B58 with hybrid turbos makes about 520-530whp, about 600bhp.
more like 600whp. im on hybrid turbo so idk where tf they got 500bhp from. i made 470whp on stock turbo
I like that it gets right to the races and less in camera audio. Easy watch and fun matchup
When you see what 500whp and 500bhp to the flywheel looks like... That m340i is more like 580
It’s just a 340i
We all know the BMW was making more power. It needed a little over 10% more power to stay even from a roll. The two cars did not stay even, therefore the BMW had much more than the needed 10% more power. Must of had 20% more power. 500hp Supra vs 600hp BMW. It was fun watching for the surprise... BMW lied.
hybrid turbos? yeah, that 340i is making 500WHP not 500BHP
What a beautiful wrap on the Supra! That is a seriously fast BMW!
That 340 is NOT making 500 lmaooo
Supra Fan Boyz punching the air right now.
Lol, exactly 😂
Owners need to give you actual data, i.e. dino sheet maybe, because this seems very accurate. I can definitely assume that the numbers on the 340 is a little more than what he's saying or the Supra is pulling your leg. My brother has a tuned 3.0 Supra with down pipes and exhaust and he walks on stock 340i or is neck and neck with 340i that are tuned.
that bmw is making more than 200 300whp over that supra
The Xdrive system on the 340i really puts in the work and bmw is just perfection when it comes to racing technology
That BMW is making 600+ lol
No gonna lie I thought the Supra was gonna win but that Beamer movessss
Both cars have 500HP? I call BS the BMW pulls on him like he has around 200bhp more!
Holy f×××××××k, that 340i is ridiculously fast regardless of what power its making, that thing is efin Bullet
Bmw has a fake number?!!!
It has not less than 600whp
Nearly 600+
BMW are absolutely insane. I love BMW👍
if these cars are OTS map, like that supra probably is, please state the exact map in the info! If it's MHD, I can tell you exactly how much power that supra is making. Take a log of that 340i and same deal. I'm going to bet that supra is MHD stage 2 OTS 93, aka like 430ish whp range. I would also bet the bmw is north of 500whp on a bigger turbo. This would be much closer with the supra on the MHD 2+ e40 tune :)
edit: the e40 MHD 2+ ots map is the most aggressive box tune available for the b58, and will nearly extract all the stock turbo has, at around 500whp. Friends of mine have gone from that e40 tune to a custom tune, and only gained a marginal 10-20hp. Just for the record
Supra is less than 500 hp or bmw is more than 500 hp. There is no logic.
I suspect the upgraded turbo with the XDrive are the biggest differentiators on the 340. The car launches hard and seems to spool instantly from a roll. I was surprised by the result.
Aren't they both the same B58 engine?
Could the supra also have that hybrid turbo?
@@SS1LE_Urien the Supra “could” install the same turbo. But it’s doesn’t have it. That BMW likely has a Pure 700/800/850 turbo and an unlocked ecu.
The Supra looks like it has JB4 with a locked ecu off the shelf tune
The 340i has upgraded turbos! It makes much more than the Zupra.
Let's put my G70 tuned up against that m340i
You’d get gapped. 340 is upgraded turbo lol.
It would be tough bud, it would be as bad as the Supra. I know Abdul says 500 bhp - to me it’s 500 whp at this point.
G70 🤣🤣foh
that's not an M340i
@@SamCarLegion this number seems about right. The Supra is sitting in the 400ish whp range
The BMW win and the BMW lost. lol
Wow! supra didn't have a chance.
I'm a proud owner of a 2018 bmw 340 xi, m sport package. I tell you what, that beast ain't no joke and mine completely stock. The easiest car to tune on the market. Ecu flash, BAM!!! 400 hp.
500hp doesn't mean much when taken out of context, especially on tuned vehicles. Those numbers would have to be Dyno to be consistent and even then both vehicles would have to use the same Dyno one right after the other. Remember, dynos aren't actually used to measure hp and torque since they could be calibrated any which way. Dynos are used to measure the differences before and after.
That 340i is fast. I think it's hp claim is a bit underrated.
The Supra needs a driver mod. I didn’t see any roll or dig racing, just gradually pressing the gas. DRIVER MOD NEEDED
The B58 is one of the better sounding engines BMWs come out in awhile
I think you need to bring Dane and his hellcat back for this to be a more comparable race
Camera guys will understand, someone's sensor needs a major cleaning.
Es el mismo BMW 340 i que corrió con el Nissan GT-R?? Ese piloto no es sincero🤔😤, tiene mucho mas de 500 HP+ ... es un Porsche 911 Turbo que necesita para medirse🤣👍
Comment section is filled with butthurt supra fanboys lool
The 340i is on Indy 500s. Crazy.
We all know the numbers are off. The BMW is 450lbs heavier with less torque. "According to the specs"
Or the Supra isnt making 500hp. And the BMW is.
I expected the BMW to win but that was a blowout...BMW always under rates thier hp, but something is very off..
Thanks Sam for another great video. I am sure trying to find cars / races are harder than most people think.
You have no idea
Lol
Yes. This channel is losing credibility
@@tanthaman I think Sam and team do the best they can and most enjoy the videos. The owners and cars are unpredictable at best....better than 99% of them trying to put out content.
@@tanthaman no it’s not…how is it losing credibility?
500 whp? more like 650 whp 💀 ain’t no fucking way
It’s a Stage 2 93 Supra vs a Hybrid Turbo/Fuel Pump/Tuned Supra with tires. If the 340i is on Ethanol Fuel it’s making around 600whp and if the Supra is what I think it is like 420whp. Big old difference.
Are sure that Supra is tuned? That 340 is just making it easy lol
I wouldn't have even expected that big of a slaughter on a stock Supra. Something is amiss here.
500 whp vs 500 bhp
Where is the dyno sheets? Should be posted every video with a modified car. Your just losing credibility.
That bmw is either 700 plus or that supra is hitting less than 500
It’s both. I have a Supra and it’s pretty well known in the community that you can’t hit 500HP on pump gas and stock turbos. And wtf is a stage 2?
The bimmer probably has a custom tune, pure turbos, fuel upgrade, etc and makes the same HP as the Supra? 🤦♂️
AND the bimmer weighs more and awd and still gets smoked in the rolling race? Yeah, he needs to start verifying it somehow.
340 listed as equal hp, less torque, weighs over 400 lbs more, and DESTROYED the supra...You'd have to be completely ignorant about cars and performance to not know this makes no sense. Supras punch above their weight in comparison tests. Either one of them is full of shit, both are full of shit, or that supra's tune is hot garbage.
100%! I think that Supra owner is just saying “I have 500HP” to make himself sound cool. I’m willing to bet he only has 420-430HP. Sam needs to start fact checking
Please adjust the camera angles. No clear video of the cars during the race.
Gen 1 b58s don’t really make much power upgraded turbos without the right supporting mods. Ethanol, and stage 2 hpfp(high pressure fuel pump) yeah you can make 650. But don’t have either you’re only making 500/550
So the 340i has XDrive, upgraded turbos and a custom tune (no OTS for upgraded turbos as far as I know). No wonder he smokes the Supra. Killer car.
That M340i is pushing way more than 500bhp. More like 600bhp.
Dude seriously racing a awd upgraded turbo b58 vs a stock turbo rwd b58😂
Was buddy is the Supra even awake??
Title correction: tuned BMW supra GR vs tune BMW 340i. You can park the titanic in between. Drag and Roll Race.
Lol somebody lied about the numbers whether it be the supra's tuner or the bmw's owner
Disappear at the light no coming back from that gap
Where's the dyno sheet for the 340i? The Math isn't Mathing
Took him to Gapplebees. Somebody is fudging the numbers. My guess that 340i makes closer to 500 wheel horsepower
Like how I said in my previous comment in the other supra video.
Supra with a piggy back tune is trash.
You get a tune from someone like mikey botti and the supra will destroy this 340. But it seems to me that that BMW had way more mods compared to the supra. There's just no way they're both stock with a tune. You put those two same cars with the same mods, but the supra is tuned by mikey, supra will walk that thing easily (yes they both have the same engine but supra is lighter). I think you should start naming the mods list of each vehicle because that was not accurate in regards to the tittle. That's just me though.
More info would be good, are they both TU? I'm not bimmer enough to know by looking lol
And hybrid turbo is pretty vague so hard to know why the gap is way bigger than we expect
I’ll never understand why people lie about their hp numbers when there’s no money at stake, 500hp for the 340i? Yeah right
Explain “hybrid turbos”, especially when it’s referring to a motor with a single turbo when it’s stock…
"downpipes" and "turbos" was enough to make me cringe.
There is no way that Supra is anywhere near 500hp or 480 torque. A tuned Supra would have left that BMW like the BMW left the Supra. Real numbers don’t lie and neither do the results.
those hybrid TURBO'S doing their Magic :)
Sam. I cant front, I am Feelin' these straight up Real runs. No frills, no one yelling out of the window, no biased flagger calling the hits; just Real Car Action. Love it.
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