Same issue here. 100mm shocks. All you need to do to get rid of your binding is to take out 1 of your upper link in your 4 link setup. You will gain full travel of your shocks without binding.
Your SSD axles actually make it easier to run your panhard correctly, similar to any make Wraith panhard kit. Just, remove one of the upper links....and your done. Your making it harder than what it is. Those axles are basically a narrow AR60s (Wraith axles). The change to a 3 link for stock axles is due to the lack of a front truss in the SCX kit, which SSD gives you. Note that, Vanquish makes this easier by adding mounting for one upper link on stock axles in their kit.
EXACTLY!! Simply remove one Upper Link Rod - Done!!! Both Upper Links AND the Panhard Rod *is what's causing the Binding!!!* I just bought a pair of SSD Axles. The new ones apparently come with a Panhard Axle Mount, that attaches to the SSD Axle!!
A perfect set up on rcs for pan hard setup is to have the panhard and drag link exact same angle and the exact same length Also only 1 upper link I've had only the vanquish setup and it was awesome Lost a bit of travel though cuz the panhard hit frame
thank god i found your video. I really needed a different way to mount my servo higher to keep it away from water and the link setup of yours is perfect. again thanks
Awesome. Have you tried/considered longer rod ends, I think Traxxss makes some, maybe Revo rod ends? And/or have you tried the offset rod ends to help drop the panhard rod down lower on the frame side?
Looks pretty good to me! Good job you've done👍 I installed the rc4wd version and it works pretty good, the only problem I encountered! Is when the suspension flexes and weights down, the panhard bar makes contact with the differential, it's a little frustrating but it's not too bad👍
+RC Overload you should just remove the drivers side font upper link because that's how my setup came from rc4wd. It would work perfectly if not let me know.
So close to 10,000 Subs, congrats on the success Matt. Any advice on a problem I'm having? I just got a winch and have to decide how to power it. 1- Y Splitter switch off steering 2- Bastens winch controller 3- New 3-4 channel setup.
+RC Overload That sounds good. I might just upgrade the radio to a 4 channel and be done with it. Instead of the 2 cheaper options that aren't as good and I can use that radio on other RC's. I really like the Airtronics MT-4S, especially that 3rd channel lever. Any experience with Airtronics?
Great build. Looking to alter mine and want to take some of your ideas. Do you have any pics or vids to share showing the completed chassis with the electronics mounted? I like the rear mounted receiver box. Looks like a gas tank in the frame rails.
Why run a panhard bar and the triagulated 4 link? They both do the same thing and in your case they are fighting each other. You can run a CMS without the panhard if you have the 4 link.
Hey Matt will this servo you have installed work with the SSD axles but with the four link set up? Or do you think it will require some modification? SSD sells the 3 link set up for d60 axles but not sure if I want to go that route.
RC Overload, great video with great info, I have a doubt because I have more or less the same setup you have on your scx10, same body, axles, servo, shocks, and same Knight Customs Grill for the Jeep, how does your body fit now you have this CMS from STRC with the grill, I'm thinking on getting it, but it looks that the grill will not fit ok with the servo so on front. since you have both the CMS from STRC and the Grill from Knight customs you could have find a solution or maybe there's no problem with the fit... Thanks in advance. ;)
I am running on my scx10 the same d60 axles with 4 links front and back stock honcho shocks...i moved up the servo chassis i am getting bump steer...but i see no room for the panhard between the chassis and servo...need help?
What length should your panhard link be if you've got 110mm shocks. I know nothing on how adjust them.. I've gut the Rc4wd gelande 2 and its stock shocks are 90mm think the panhard link is 95mm?? any help would be much appreciated!
Hey one question I have for you? Are those rc4wd ultra hardened scale punisher shafts version 3?! The reason I ask is because I'm looking to replace mine with those, but I'm not sure they would fit. I did put them on my rc4wd gelande2 though!
+tamim khasawneh Dose it use a set screw? if it dose id say to get one otherwise its never gonna work. otherwise if it dosnt use a set screw........Im not sure how it would mount up and stay on.
HI, HOW DOES IT RUN WITH THE PANHARD, I JUST BOUGHT THAT, I HAVE A FOUR LINK IN MY RIDE, SO I WHANT TO KNOW HOW DOES IT GO WITH THE UPGRADE, AND IF YOU HAVE A VIDEO OF YOUR TESTING RIDE WITH IT
hey there ... hey where did u get the front mud guard kit for the axial? can you please let me know ive been looking everywhere i havent been able to find anything close.... please educate me and let me know that information if you wouldnt mind.... thanks in advance.. -pete
+Peter Piccolo if your talking about the fender wheel wells those can be found by searching up Knights Customs on shapeway. He cares a ton of great stuff.
would you be willing to sell your front housing, i just need the front, actually just the stock section with the two cylinder spacers that stock the servo mount attaches with two screws... i would be wiling to pay, im just looking for a cheaper solution than buying a complete axle housing setup... please let me know if you would be willing to part with it, like i said i would be willing to pay you a fair price, just let me know what your thinking.. thanks -peter
hey rc overload can u and me do a build off with the torments have 3 of them and I would love to do a build off with one with you ps I can get u parts for the torments
+RC BROTHERS Haha, sorry man. Im still in the middle of one build off and the ECX torment i don't expect to be putting to much into it. so i don't think it would be an overly exciting build off. sorry bud.
Do you realy need a panhard with a 4 link. The front should be very rigid without panhard. I would think a 4 link will bind with a panhard in place worse. You will probably lose some articulation.
Same issue here. 100mm shocks. All you need to do to get rid of your binding is to take out 1 of your upper link in your 4 link setup. You will gain full travel of your shocks without binding.
Your SSD axles actually make it easier to run your panhard correctly, similar to any make Wraith panhard kit. Just, remove one of the upper links....and your done. Your making it harder than what it is. Those axles are basically a narrow AR60s (Wraith axles). The change to a 3 link for stock axles is due to the lack of a front truss in the SCX kit, which SSD gives you. Note that, Vanquish makes this easier by adding mounting for one upper link on stock axles in their kit.
EXACTLY!! Simply remove one Upper Link Rod - Done!!! Both Upper Links AND the Panhard Rod *is what's causing the Binding!!!*
I just bought a pair of SSD Axles. The new ones apparently come with a Panhard Axle Mount, that attaches to the SSD Axle!!
A perfect set up on rcs for pan hard setup is to have the panhard and drag link exact same angle and the exact same length
Also only 1 upper link
I've had only the vanquish setup and it was awesome
Lost a bit of travel though cuz the panhard hit frame
That's one sick rig Matt. So exited to see you reaching 10k 2 weeks from now!!!thumbs up.
+JPRC Thanks Joe! I am to!
It would also help to flip the servo and use a longer steering rod, the longer the distance, the less the relative angles change with articulation.
thank god i found your video. I really needed a different way to mount my servo higher to keep it away from water and the link setup of yours is perfect. again thanks
Get water proof servo..?
pan hard and the drag link have to be parallel to work properly . good fix lowering servo!
Also should be as close to equal length as possible
I think you might be right! I may need larger shocks to raise the ride height.
Awesome. Have you tried/considered longer rod ends, I think Traxxss makes some, maybe Revo rod ends? And/or have you tried the offset rod ends to help drop the panhard rod down lower on the frame side?
Looks pretty good to me! Good job you've done👍 I installed the rc4wd version and it works pretty good, the only problem I encountered! Is when the suspension flexes and weights down, the panhard bar makes contact with the differential, it's a little frustrating but it's not too bad👍
I hear ya on that one! thier certainly not perfect but hey it dose what it needs to!
That is wicked I love my Axial and had no idea about this upgrade !!! I will be definitely looking into this further Thanks for posting
+Colleens CruziN No problem!
I need to do this on my Barrage. I'm getting the same servo in tomorrow and I think I'm gonna try to go in this direction for my setup.
Awesome! ya, ill be doing a barrage upgrade series soon.
+RC Overload you should just remove the drivers side font upper link because that's how my setup came from rc4wd. It would work perfectly if not let me know.
fuck, found someone who is like me, I been making mine since September last year, not taken it out since February 2018.
I fully change everything.
So close to 10,000 Subs, congrats on the success Matt. Any advice on a problem I'm having? I just got a winch and have to decide how to power it.
1- Y Splitter switch off steering
2- Bastens winch controller
3- New 3-4 channel setup.
+travisamc Thanks man! Honestly im not a 100% sure how to wire it yet. Im going to be installing mine soon and when i do i explain how i powered mine.
+RC Overload That sounds good. I might just upgrade the radio to a 4 channel and be done with it. Instead of the 2 cheaper options that aren't as good and I can use that radio on other RC's. I really like the Airtronics MT-4S, especially that 3rd channel lever. Any experience with Airtronics?
What kinda bumper mount is that? That’s what I need for my scx10.2 that I’m building.
Great build. Looking to alter mine and want to take some of your ideas. Do you have any pics or vids to share showing the completed chassis with the electronics mounted? I like the rear mounted receiver box. Looks like a gas tank in the frame rails.
Why run a panhard bar and the triagulated 4 link? They both do the same thing and in your case they are fighting each other. You can run a CMS without the panhard if you have the 4 link.
Hey Matt will this servo you have installed work with the SSD axles but with the four link set up? Or do you think it will require some modification? SSD sells the 3 link set up for d60 axles but not sure if I want to go that route.
Thanks man!!!! I will be getting set soon!!!!
Cool videos keep them coming!
RC Overload, great video with great info, I have a doubt because I have more or less the same setup you have on your scx10, same body, axles, servo, shocks, and same Knight Customs Grill for the Jeep, how does your body fit now you have this CMS from STRC with the grill, I'm thinking on getting it, but it looks that the grill will not fit ok with the servo so on front. since you have both the CMS from STRC and the Grill from Knight customs you could have find a solution or maybe there's no problem with the fit... Thanks in advance. ;)
I am running on my scx10 the same d60 axles with 4 links front and back stock honcho shocks...i moved up the servo chassis i am getting bump steer...but i see no room for the panhard between the chassis and servo...need help?
Great video. Where did you get your wheel wells or are they Diy? Please let me know if you have a video on them.
+Michael Christopher Check out Kights Customs on shapeway.com he makes them
hey
nice vid.
what tires are those and what dimensions? they look pretty good
How the Baja build going. can't wait to see it
+Moneycash023 Slow.....Haha but we are getting thier! Gonna do some filming for it shortly!
Love the axles bud👍 if don't mind how much were the set?? Love the looks! Great videos too man! I really enjoy them!!👍👍👍👍👍
24.99 each rpphobby I believe
Nice and cheap
What length should your panhard link be if you've got 110mm shocks. I know nothing on how adjust them.. I've gut the Rc4wd gelande 2 and its stock shocks are 90mm think the panhard link is 95mm?? any help would be much appreciated!
compatible if use brand cross linkage to change?
Hey one question I have for you? Are those rc4wd ultra hardened scale punisher shafts version 3?! The reason I ask is because I'm looking to replace mine with those, but I'm not sure they would fit. I did put them on my rc4wd gelande2 though!
Honestly i cant remember i know i have them in another video. Ill see if i can find out.
Well does it turn all the way left?
GOOD VIDEO INFO TO THA MAX
+Hillrod rc films Thanks man!
Hey Matt are you using an aftermarket battery tray mount or are you using the stock one, and what winch will you be using?
+Clayton Stephens Hey man, Im using Knights Customs Battery Tray mount with the stock axial tray itself.
So this is off topic but what should I do if I have a plastic pinion and I'm trying to put it back with no set screw?
+tamim khasawneh Dose it use a set screw? if it dose id say to get one otherwise its never gonna work. otherwise if it dosnt use a set screw........Im not sure how it would mount up and stay on.
i think the used some glue idk but anyways got a new pinion
HI, HOW DOES IT RUN WITH THE PANHARD, I JUST BOUGHT THAT, I HAVE A FOUR LINK IN MY RIDE, SO I WHANT TO KNOW HOW DOES IT GO WITH THE UPGRADE, AND IF YOU HAVE A VIDEO OF YOUR TESTING RIDE WITH IT
+Pablo Iturralde its amazing! I love it! And all of my recent video on my channel with the jeep have me running it.
how to fix extreme bump steer ?
hey there ... hey where did u get the front mud guard kit for the axial? can you please let me know ive been looking everywhere i havent been able to find anything close.... please educate me and let me know that information if you wouldnt mind.... thanks in advance..
-pete
+Peter Piccolo if your talking about the fender wheel wells those can be found by searching up Knights Customs on shapeway. He cares a ton of great stuff.
Why do they call it a panhard bar? A panhard is a lateral suspension link aka trackbar
cool
would you be willing to sell your front housing, i just need the front, actually just the stock section with the two cylinder spacers that stock the servo mount attaches with two screws... i would be wiling to pay, im just looking for a cheaper solution than buying a complete axle housing setup... please let me know if you would be willing to part with it, like i said i would be willing to pay you a fair price, just let me know what your thinking.. thanks
-peter
Raise the servo and use a longer servo horn
Could this work on the scx10 ii?
what wt oil do you use on those king shocks?
where did you get the splash gard from
+Taylor Sheppard knights customs
is there any metal rod ends that you could use?
+brady pedersen RC4WD sells metal rod ends that you can use.... not cheap tho! haha
hey rc overload can u and me do a build off with the torments have 3 of them and I would love to do a build off with one with you ps I can get u parts for the torments
+RC BROTHERS Haha, sorry man. Im still in the middle of one build off and the ECX torment i don't expect to be putting to much into it. so i don't think it would be an overly exciting build off. sorry bud.
+RC Overload. can u feature me on your channel and i mean by the build off we can just feature each others
What rims are those?
+Shaun Lemmon Vanquish 1.9 methods
Do you realy need a panhard with a 4 link. The front should be very rigid without panhard. I would think a 4 link will bind with a panhard in place worse. You will probably lose some articulation.
binds with 4 link if you use the panhard but you can run 4 link with cms just need a strong servo :D if not the steering sucks
Hey
Absolutely no need for panhard with 4 link .. completely useless and causes binding as u can see in ur vid .
that setup is terrible
Thanks seemed to work perfectly fine without any binding or suspension issue.