People hugging, celebrating, in ecstasy, jotting down their song lists, tapers being dicks, but thank God for them...rows upon rows of shoes piled against a wall, drum speakers in the hallways, for those who wanted to have room to dance. You dance with a stranger and then she disappears, you just hope you see her again, but you never do. The sound of Jerry drowning everything else out, all your pain, and then with subtlety he eases back, and the band steps in like a cattle drive. I can still hear the voices of my friends, who I wish were with me today...and yet they are still, and I get chills thinking about how luvky we were....
Was trippin' on 3 hits of good acid with a house full of 'heads listening to that DP for the 1st time Was my late brother's copy of DP 13 We were fuckin' rockin' that night
You know. It's gladdening to.read.a.comment..scarlet.fire..china Rider.. but to throw.dowm sailor saint. Phawk Babylon phawk yeah I Jah Herb Jah love Jah Jerry Jah rastafari praises blessings respectfully Tucson Arizona Sonoran desert 🏜️
Had a bootleg cassette of this years before the Dick's Picks and everything on the Archive came out. When I listened to Dick's Picks 13 and heard it I knew what it was...I wasn't a very knowledgeable Deadhead about all the inner workings of the taping of shows and who was who within the DEAD family. So I tracked down Owsley Stanley aka BEAR on the internet and sent him an email about the Hidden track. He did reply and we had email communication. I was under the impression that he was still recording live Dead shows which know I know he obviously wasn't. Still was cool to get an actual email from the one and only Owsley Stanley.
oh yea...Nassau shows...before I was even seeing them they were doing scarlet/fire at nassau. Saw them in '85...wow..killer shows...thanks for sharing. AWESOME!!!
holy shit. i can't believe i've never heard this before! only 6 months in, and brent's already stepping it up... now i'm gonna have to go find the whole show.
26:40 love that little riff, i had a very good day with a friend back in the early mid 90s rewinding this tape over and over and over listening to that and freaking out. This has always been my all time fav scarlet > fire.
So distinct from Donna and Keith/Jerry with Wolf era. Brent brings a new sense of size and scale to the sound and Tiger pushes Garcia’s sound and playing in an even more refined/sophisticated direction. The band is freed up to play songs in a variety of new ways with different tempos and energy levels according to the moment.
There are few things in my musical experience that match up to a sweet solo by Jerry Garcia. This particular Scarlet Begonias heart felt sensibilities is off the charts. This particular high key gushes with heart and soul.
I skipped by that hidden track on disc 2 of DP13 for years until one day......what a surprise!! The first time I heard it, I swear that transition jam lasted for 6 hours, it is soooooo long. Check out the last day of the very same month and year for one of the hottest Scarlet>Fires played, too. 11/30.79. Stanley Theater. Brent was killing it for being in the band a matter of months! Jerry happy! archive.org/details/gd1979-11-30.148525.fob.naks.wagner.miller.clugston.flac1648
Brent gets so funky on scarlet, thankx for posting I would have posted this myself but I can only upload 15 minutes, how do you score more time on youtube, thanks again
i was wondering if you could upload the jam right before wharf rat from 7-27-73, another one that's too long for me, but one that should be heard, dig, thankx if you got the time
more like '74. was def dabbling or into it by 75. just an fyi..and per the original comment.."back" on it? did he have a period back then when he got off?
Some think it can be discerned that persian was causing the jams and solos to stretch out, becoming even less defined musical statements and more noodly. Some may say they were looser, sloppier, or what have you..
Yeah. It feels like he "forgets what he's saying" halfway through the phrase sometimes. Jerry's playing, like most guitarists from a rootsy background, is super based around call-and-response phrasing, and in the early years he was an absolute master of setting up and playing with expectations; by the late 70s and especially as the 80s progressed, this internal logic dropped away and there were more and more passages of floaty noodling. It was generally still pleasant, but Garcia was clearly reaching for familiar shapes from muscle memory, and often grabbing the "wrong one". He was always willing to get chromatic, but where it used to sound completely deliberate, by 1980 they earnestly sound like mistakes. I think this reflects an overall shift from mostly playing deliberately and consciously to mostly playing on autopilot. Now, I think the real question is whether this shift was caused by heroin, or if they're both symptoms of an underlying malaise. I'm certainly more inclined to the latter theory, and my big controversial GD opinion is that they should've permanently disbanded in 1974. I think at that point they'd already created their best music, but still hadn't burned out, and I think it's entirely possible Garcia could still be alive today, or at least lasted a lot longer than he did, if he'd called it quits from the touring lifestyle before it really started to get to him.
I can see why many of my friends did not like the Dead, they could be boring, sound like they are on downers, and way Too jammy at times - They liked Rock n Roll, Led Zeppelin , BTO, ZZ Top, Johnny Winter, The Kinks, and bands like Jethro Tull who kicked ass on stage. King Crimson and so on, I was 14 years old and my older brother took me and 6 of my friends to this show from Glen Cove Long Island - It was my first dead show. but I did read a lot about them live and thought. When my friends see how great they are they will love them too lol. Well, half way through this show they fell asleep , and I thought " Where are all the fast rocking songs like on the two albums I had of theirs, you know them 3 minutes fast rockers like Johnny B Good and Bertha and One More Saturday Night and so on, oh well, I did see my second favorite band a week later. , Jethro Tull, Oh my god they fuckin Ruled!!! As for my friends I think their hate of the dead for many years after this was the cause of this night.
Thank the lord for whoever recorded this for us to enjoy. True gems.
+bcsorensenman Jerry fartin' thru his frets, love it. Beautiful version, thanks.
Its so crisp for '79. Thank god for this deadicated person.
Yes agree❤❤❤❤ im crying i.miss this him.
People hugging, celebrating, in ecstasy, jotting down their song lists, tapers being dicks, but thank God for them...rows upon rows of shoes piled against a wall, drum speakers in the hallways, for those who wanted to have room to dance. You dance with a stranger and then she disappears, you just hope you see her again, but you never do. The sound of Jerry drowning everything else out, all your pain, and then with subtlety he eases back, and the band steps in like a cattle drive. I can still hear the voices of my friends, who I wish were with me today...and yet they are still, and I get chills thinking about how luvky we were....
Amen 😊
Brought a tear to my cynical ol eye thanks for the memories
My second dead show.15 years old never the same🤪✌️
My first was in college. Im not friends any longer w who turned me on. Im stuck here out here alone. The dead gts me through
My second also at 15 years old a few nights earlier at Cape Cod coliseum. Life changed forever!
This is the "hidden track" from Dick's Picks 13, CD2 after the Sailor/Saint, epic
not so hidden now, huh
Was trippin' on 3 hits of good acid with a house full of 'heads listening to that DP for the 1st time
Was my late brother's copy of DP 13
We were fuckin' rockin' that night
You know. It's gladdening to.read.a.comment..scarlet.fire..china Rider.. but to throw.dowm sailor saint. Phawk Babylon phawk yeah I Jah Herb Jah love Jah Jerry Jah rastafari praises blessings respectfully Tucson Arizona Sonoran desert 🏜️
Great show and i was at all the show's at Nassau Coliseum They loved to play their East Coast show's Ruled.Thanks for the song..
Yeah, ok
Had a bootleg cassette of this years before the Dick's Picks and everything on the Archive came out. When I listened to Dick's Picks 13 and heard it I knew what it was...I wasn't a very knowledgeable Deadhead about all the inner workings of the taping of shows and who was who within the DEAD family. So I tracked down Owsley Stanley aka BEAR on the internet and sent him an email about the Hidden track. He did reply and we had email communication. I was under the impression that he was still recording live Dead shows which know I know he obviously wasn't. Still was cool to get an actual email from the one and only Owsley Stanley.
Simply trippin' on this. If it was really "the Owsley", thank him for the awesome Orange Sunshine. Best I ever had.
Anyone else surprised that the longest Scarlet Fire is only 35 mins?
That's what I love about us 'heads
"only 35 mins"
As they said in the movie- "Grateful Dead Forever"
No
Yeah! Imagine crammin’ all that together in only a half hour! Mesmerizing
Only 35... Love it.
Yeah, acid'll do that to you lol
oh yea...Nassau shows...before I was even seeing them they were doing scarlet/fire at nassau. Saw them in '85...wow..killer shows...thanks for sharing. AWESOME!!!
holy shit. i can't believe i've never heard this before! only 6 months in, and brent's already stepping it up... now i'm gonna have to go find the whole show.
Magnifica versione! Grazie!
Gorgeous version! Thanks for postin't !
26:40 love that little riff, i had a very good day with a friend back in the early mid 90s rewinding this tape over and over and over listening to that and freaking out. This has always been my all time fav scarlet > fire.
Thank You! I haven't heard this in many years!
I was so sad before listening to this wonderful........peace on
So distinct from Donna and Keith/Jerry with Wolf era. Brent brings a new sense of size and scale to the sound and Tiger pushes Garcia’s sound and playing in an even more refined/sophisticated direction. The band is freed up to play songs in a variety of new ways with different tempos and energy levels according to the moment.
My mom taped this show among many others that I know get to enjoy.
Jerry’s feeling good
There are few things in my musical experience that match up to a sweet solo by Jerry Garcia. This particular Scarlet Begonias heart felt sensibilities is off the charts. This particular high key gushes with heart and soul.
Brent is FIRRRREEEEE
Who's listening on the 40th anniversary! They need to officially release this
Phil cutting through the mix like a meat cleaver through butter
This is special ❤
The Scarlet/Fire played at Scope in Norfolk on Apr 3, 1982 is another winner. The bridge between songs is 🤯
OH MY GOD!!!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!
I skipped by that hidden track on disc 2 of DP13 for years until one day......what a surprise!! The first time I heard it, I swear that transition jam lasted for 6 hours, it is soooooo long. Check out the last day of the very same month and year for one of the hottest Scarlet>Fires played, too. 11/30.79. Stanley Theater. Brent was killing it for being in the band a matter of months! Jerry happy!
archive.org/details/gd1979-11-30.148525.fob.naks.wagner.miller.clugston.flac1648
oh my thank you thank you ive been looking for this show for ever youre awesome my brother thank you again
This one is sumptuous
Brent gets so funky on scarlet, thankx for posting I would have posted this myself but I can only upload 15 minutes, how do you score more time on youtube, thanks again
I was 14 when I went to this show, got bored and left half way through. What a dumbass I was.
it's ok, sarah. i love you. i always will.
There was a lot of mellowness in 1979, it seems.
every time i been to this place it was cold and raining. the shows made up for the weather
Cold and raining indoors?
Me Tooooo.
This is THICK.
thankx got it
i was wondering if you could upload the jam right before wharf rat from 7-27-73, another one that's too long for me, but one that should be heard, dig, thankx if you got the time
35.2 SF, nice!
Who else is here from the hidden track on dicks picks vol 13??
hey, that's already on youtube
really, i cannot find it, could you please send me the link then
was THERE
So was I! My first Dead show!
Me too!!
Top 5
search for watkins glen jam
Whats the pictures date?
May I ask what the source audio was for this? Looking to find the whole show if possible.
For real?
My hearrcaches miss u mAn
I added I LIKE on the right side 0 likes 0 dislikes.I like this..
That is one fix it Utube.
More cow bell😅
when was Brent's first show?
4.22.79. check out archive.org.
It's a good one too. Spartan Stadium.
I like versions with better pace and bounce
Jerry back on smack at this point and some us can tell.
I can't necessarily hear it, but we know he started using H sometime in early 77. Doubt he had kicked it or had any reason to by '79
more like '74. was def dabbling or into it by 75. just an fyi..and per the original comment.."back" on it? did he have a period back then when he got off?
Some think it can be discerned that persian was causing the jams and solos to stretch out, becoming even less defined musical statements and more noodly. Some may say they were looser, sloppier, or what have you..
Yeah. It feels like he "forgets what he's saying" halfway through the phrase sometimes. Jerry's playing, like most guitarists from a rootsy background, is super based around call-and-response phrasing, and in the early years he was an absolute master of setting up and playing with expectations; by the late 70s and especially as the 80s progressed, this internal logic dropped away and there were more and more passages of floaty noodling. It was generally still pleasant, but Garcia was clearly reaching for familiar shapes from muscle memory, and often grabbing the "wrong one". He was always willing to get chromatic, but where it used to sound completely deliberate, by 1980 they earnestly sound like mistakes. I think this reflects an overall shift from mostly playing deliberately and consciously to mostly playing on autopilot. Now, I think the real question is whether this shift was caused by heroin, or if they're both symptoms of an underlying malaise. I'm certainly more inclined to the latter theory, and my big controversial GD opinion is that they should've permanently disbanded in 1974. I think at that point they'd already created their best music, but still hadn't burned out, and I think it's entirely possible Garcia could still be alive today, or at least lasted a lot longer than he did, if he'd called it quits from the touring lifestyle before it really started to get to him.
Yes, I believe so. When it worked.
I can see why many of my friends did not like the Dead, they could be boring, sound like they are on downers, and way Too jammy at times - They liked Rock n Roll, Led Zeppelin , BTO, ZZ Top, Johnny Winter, The Kinks, and bands like Jethro Tull who kicked ass on stage. King Crimson and so on, I was 14 years old and my older brother took me and 6 of my friends to this show from Glen Cove Long Island - It was my first dead show. but I did read a lot about them live and thought. When my friends see how great they are they will love them too lol. Well, half way through this show they fell asleep , and I thought " Where are all the fast rocking songs like on the two albums I had of theirs, you know them 3 minutes fast rockers like Johnny B Good and Bertha and One More Saturday Night and so on, oh well, I did see my second favorite band a week later. , Jethro Tull, Oh my god they fuckin Ruled!!! As for my friends I think their hate of the dead for many years after this was the cause of this night.
greatnxalot
no problem - I think you have to have a certain amount of views? not sure though
One person needs to clean their fuckin ear drums
2 now